I have both of these machines - If all you want is an authentic 808 clone, and don't have a big budget, definitely get an RD8 MK2. If however, you have a bit more money to spend on a drum machine, and want "real" 808, plus a ton of other "real" Roland drums machines (and a lot more), hands down get the TR8S. One thing this video doesn't show is how TR8S can be tuned/customized - every one of those 808 sounds can be tweaked for tuning & decay & more etc. and can be made to sound very close to the RD8 (identical IMO - and also VS a real 808) with some minor knob twiddling. The TR8S also has a compressor, and many other effects to color the sound - RD8 has an "analog filter" which is cool, but more limited. Another thing to consider is how you will record these machines - TR8S has separate audio channels/output over one USB cable into your DAW (easy & great!), while you'll need analog outputs/inputs/mixer/DA converter to record the RD8 on separate channels (or even a stereo channel) into a DAW. Having said that, what I love about the RD8 is that it approximates the fun of programming a real 808 in a way that the TR8S doesn't - there IS a bunch of munu diving in the TR8S that I hate, and it can get in the way of being inspired/productive. For purely programming classic 808 beats, I will turun to the RD8 every time. But, it's just and 808 (LOL). That's good - but I think many people might want more - if so (save up) get the TR8S.
Yes the TR-8s definitely has a wider range of functions and sounds. The menu diving on the TR-8s is there if you want to access the deeper functions for the most part. You can skip much of that if you don't need to access those. I find it to actually be pretty fast, even when going through the menus. I've used it so much that it just flows for me now. I find myself having to check the manual more with the RD-8. thanks for watching!
This is exactly what I wanted to know. I'm looking at getting a Behringer RD-8 and the RD-9 which is in the ballpark of the TR-8S.... plus from what I read the TR-8S can play other samples as well?
You can load your own samples into the TR-8S via SD card (you can't sample directly into the TR-8S). Chopping/editing them in the TR-8S is possible, via menu diving, but I've found that editing them before I transfer them in saves a lot of time & effort. TR-8S also has *most* of the other TR series drum machine sounds built in, plus a ton of other drum, percussion, effect noises, and even synth sounds - as well as the virtual FM engine (which sounds amazing). If it was me, and I wanted both 808 + 909 I'd go for the TR-8S.@@0x80O0oOverfl0w
Yes, the TR-8s comes with samples loaded and you can load your own. It's not just an 808 or a 909. It does the other Roland drum machines as well as whatever samples are loaded in it. thanks for watching!@@0x80O0oOverfl0w
@@deepsynths I just picked one up from Reverb the other day. I messed with it for a bit and it is awesome, I'm super stoked. It's in pieces right now though. Got some Deoxit Fader Lube that should be here tomorrow. Can't wait to get it cleaned, dried and put back together again!
With this demo I must admit the RD 8ll is far better, but maybe the others tones have not been balanced correctly. I own the RD 8 original & I think it sounds pretty authentic & and does exactly what I want, right out the box, no need for any other clones. Also I like that each individual sound can be connected to an effect pedal or mixing channel or amp, if prefered & if you don't want the individual connections, then there's the one output jack to play everyrhing, not forgetting the headphone output. Masses of output options at an amazing price.
RD-8 For The Win, hands down. BEHRINGER absolutely nailed it about sounding right everything. This is absolutely spot on. Some may say "obviously because it's analog" but all hihats/cymbals/... are digital on the BEHRINGER and they succeed to let them sounds WAY BETTER than ROLAND...!! What a shame for ROLAND! I mean who is supposed to reproduce better Roland's digital sounds than ROLAND itself with a more recent digital machine?... BEHRINGER. LOL. I've got a RD-9 and I think this is the best 909 EVER, including the original. Same story with the RD-8 MK2 to me. Not only you've got exactly a real 808/909 with same analog+digital circuitry, but plus you've got a HUGE expansion with very good new features, including MIDI of course... Sincerely, this is a dream come true, in serious good construction quality (perfect sizing for real live playing, 100% metal firm knobs, very tactile buttons, thick very tactile steps buttons, very clear lights with different colors per functions for each of lights...), and...................VERY VERY VERY GOOD PRICE. I gave my money to Behringer with pleasure. Last thing : honestly, we can't blame Behringer to make these machines, we were waiting those SINCE DECADES AND DECADES but Japanese brands never listen their customers... And this is a nonsense to me because Japan is struggling since decades and that was a so easy opportunity for them to make money... Why god why they didn't ? Fortunately Behringer did it.
Good points. It's a great time for synth and drum machines! The RD-8 is all analog, the RD-9 utilizes both analog and samples. Like the Roland originals.
Thx for best comparison. TR-8S have "digital sample". In my opinion, If If you're looking for real sound, choose RD8/RD9 or real old Roland. Digital sample give flat sound. A good ear will pick up this plastic flat artificial sound. TR8S is for creative people, but not have real cult sound. Real sound is from genuine Roland or analog replica or clone.
@@fiddlestickzmuzik The shipments were stuck on ships for awhile. Part of the supply chain problem at the ports on the west coast of the U.S.. This was the case in Nov. and Dec. of last year and may still be having some effect. There may have been other issues that have caused problems since then. They should be more available by now.
Hey man I just came across this video and it’s an awesome comparison. I’m new to drum machines but I own the rd-8. Is it me or does the Tr8s sound more modern, balanced out, less “analogue” and less punchy than the rd-8?
Hey there, just saw your question. It's one a lot of people have about these two. The rd-8 does feel more "loose" to me. They can both be punchy, it seems to be more about the difference in the character of the sound. The rd-8 just seems more edgy from the start and loose. Which I think is due to the analog design. Glad you like it and thanks for watching!
Sorry to do this but the TR8S level is lower than the RD8. Not by much but enough. Once I level matched them it sounded quite a bit different. Overall I still prefer the fullness and overall ‘analogueness’ of the TR8S, but it is not night and day like it was before level matching. Of course with a TR8S you get waaay more sounds - and FM!
Yeah the level matching is sort of challenge when you're making one of these videos with multiple sound comparisons. What do you match? The peak level, the average level, the perceived level? They're never all the same for different instruments on different machines unless you use compression or limiting. So you have to go for as close as you can get while still being fair to both pieces of gear. I go for a compromise of peak and perceived loudness on my studio monitors getting them as close as possible. Sometimes it seems as though it changes a bit after I upload to youtube because in the studio they're usually spot on. Thanks for checking it out! The TR-8s is happy to get your vote!
I brought the TR8S bcus the Behringer RD8 wasn't in Stock.... Here's the Thing... The Behringer LOOKS awesome. Sounds Great like a TR-808 or TR-08. COST about $350. My plan was to Buy Both RD9 n RD8 But like I said. Not In Stock The TR8S has 808 and 909. Kits. Sequences like a RD8 or Roland 909 Annnddd has 909 727, 606 ,etc etc Basically ALL the Roland Drum Machines in one. So...I'm happy with my TR8S. Ijs...Several Drum Machines are better than One. But then Again IF YOU REALLY LOVE RD8. Go for it. Enjoy it. (For me)
My only complain about the tr8s is it doesn't have real time sampling. Otherwise it's a great piece of kit and everything is too cheap nowadays. He'll go hog wall by tr8s and rd-9 RD8.
Hey all, I have the TR-8s and love , but I feel that it's not the real sound of the originals. When I put compression on it, it def gets better and more punchy and I love the tons of sounds , and the editor is AMAZING! it opens it up to be a super machine. But I still want the real analog sound and will probably buy the TD 8MkII today. thanks for making the vid, and I understand the challenges of try to do comparisons. But all of you out there, don't hate the TR-8s, it's still INSANE! I got some killllleeerrr drum and bass beats going on out of it that sounds like OG sampling for the Amen Break.I haven't even started loading samples yet ( I did do one test to see what it's like and the samples were from Roland. ) and sounded great.
Yes the TR-8s is definitely more than an 808 or 909 recreation, once you start loading samples you can make it anything you want. If you're using it for the drum source in a track it seems that's what most people would do. Make a custom hybrid kit. Why limit yourself? I put Linn Drum and DMX samples in mine. Sounded great!
The problem is people think the TR8 and TR8S are suppose to be replicas of the 808 and 909… they are totally different beasts with way more advanced options! The same goes for the TB-3! It’s not suppose to be just like the original! It sounds close enough and has way more sounds and more performance options… stop driving yourselves crazy with comparisons and make some freakin music! 😅👍🏻
The Behringer delivers at a price that is too good to pass on! The RD-9 was an automatic buy for me but I had to think about the RD-8. Glad I got it, 100%. If you listen to the last 80's beat at the end of the video with the keys over it you can see how it captures that vibe.
@@deepsynths I've had an obsession with the tr808 since the early 80s I think the first time I heard planet rock that was the track that really did it for me.
Something here doesn't seem quite right, I'm not for one second suggesting foul play, but maybe there was a genuine mistake made while recording. My TR-8S sounds remarkably similar to my Tr-808, - the RD-8 mkii in these examples sounds much louder, almost to the point of having being compressed, when compared to the 8s. I appreciate the posting and time taken, but I do feel the level of the TR-8s is very low compared to the RD-8, - but still it might just be my ageing ears. One thing to take into consideration is the TR-8s is supposed to sound like a factory fresh 808 from the 80s, whereas the Behringer seems to have been voiced to have a more vintage sound. - Running the 8s through some balancing DI boxes and adding some very mild saturation will yeild very similar results. love to ALL, feel no hate Edit, In fact just applying the TR-8s Comp/overdrive effect to each instrument should probably be enough to give the illusion of an aged unit.
They were recorded straight through a UAD Apollo interface. I checked the levels and the individual sounds matched. The levels of the whole patterns would vary slightly but I decided to keep the individual sounds as they were instead of making another adjustment for beat patterns. For one, it helps the video flow better and it also shows a real difference in the 2 machines. As an owner of both I can say that they don't sound the same, especially the kick. I think that comes through accurately in the video. I like both machines, I'm keeping both but the RD-8 is definitely more present than the TR-8s.
Roland didn’t listen to its customers for 30 years and still ignored them when they made digital machines with there laughable ACB stuff. Behringer have listened and make exactly what people want and Roland have paid the price. Such a shame really as Roland was such an iconic brand
30 years ago nobody really wanted vintage analogue drum machines and synths. The early 90s were all about digital synths, workstations and samplers. Roland also never made instruments for niche audiences, but served the mass market. Their target audience wants the latest and greatest in music technology and does not care at all about ancient analogue machines. From Roland's perspective it makes no sense to re-issue 40 year old instruments to please a tiny niche market instead of focusing on their main audience into which they invested 4 decades of R&D since these classic boxes came out. So them re-releasing their vintage machines is rather unlikely.
@@XanderEwald But who would that main audience be ? Who wants a drummachine that sounds like a cheap, thinner, copy and all those demos sound like elevator muzak.
@@snorrevonflake The whole synth department is a side business for Roland. They make their money with pianos, keyboards, guitar gear. As for your description of the sound of the TR-8, it sounds fine to me.
Wow, thank you, was thinking about the TR8S because i want more and different sounds and more sound mangling possibilities but as i suspected it just does not sound like the real thing. Most of the demos of those new Roland Machines sounded like elevator muzak to me and your videos confirm that impression.
Amazing! I recently bought the RD-8, I noticed the output level is very low even with the pots all the way up (about -20db without accent), is this normal?
I haven't noticed anything like that. I'm pretty sure there's a difference when you switch from the main, single mono output to individual outs. Nothing that extreme though.
I think is deppends when r u listen the rd8 .. Have the same issue at the first and them i realize it was my problem . Take it thru an amp and check it out of a computer
Behringer clearly wins. The TR8S sounds muffled, like all of Rolands COSM, ACB, ZenCore, analog emulation crap. It should be called POS. The only thing not quite right on the RD-8 are the handclaps. Otherwise it's spot on!
The TR8S sounds dead compared to the RD8. And I’m shocked because the TR8S is supposed to do a very good emulation of the 808. I also saw a comparison between the TR8S and the RD9 and again the TR8S sounds dead compared to the RD9. I think Behringer really nailed it with both the RD8 mkii and the RD9.
There is another and better option for most original sound. TR8s as a controller with Roland Cloud gives you the absolute best original sound and you can use it for 808, 909 etc. Much cheaper too.
The Roland Cloud is great. I subscribe to it. Lots of stuff on there. I've found the cloud's software version of synths to basically sound the same as the ACB versions loaded in the system 8 (in a test the best sound was the system 8 playing the patch over USB into the DAW but it was close). However I found the drum machines to not sound as large and punchy as the TR-8s. I wanted them to sound great but when I did a comparison they fell short. That was my experience at least. Thanks for checking it out!
please elaborate. I have the tr8s...you mean i can use it with zenology? or what do you mean as a controller with Roland Cloud exactly? my curiosity is peaked.
I have both of these machines - If all you want is an authentic 808 clone, and don't have a big budget, definitely get an RD8 MK2. If however, you have a bit more money to spend on a drum machine, and want "real" 808, plus a ton of other "real" Roland drums machines (and a lot more), hands down get the TR8S. One thing this video doesn't show is how TR8S can be tuned/customized - every one of those 808 sounds can be tweaked for tuning & decay & more etc. and can be made to sound very close to the RD8 (identical IMO - and also VS a real 808) with some minor knob twiddling. The TR8S also has a compressor, and many other effects to color the sound - RD8 has an "analog filter" which is cool, but more limited. Another thing to consider is how you will record these machines - TR8S has separate audio channels/output over one USB cable into your DAW (easy & great!), while you'll need analog outputs/inputs/mixer/DA converter to record the RD8 on separate channels (or even a stereo channel) into a DAW. Having said that, what I love about the RD8 is that it approximates the fun of programming a real 808 in a way that the TR8S doesn't - there IS a bunch of munu diving in the TR8S that I hate, and it can get in the way of being inspired/productive. For purely programming classic 808 beats, I will turun to the RD8 every time. But, it's just and 808 (LOL). That's good - but I think many people might want more - if so (save up) get the TR8S.
Yes the TR-8s definitely has a wider range of functions and sounds. The menu diving on the TR-8s is there if you want to access the deeper functions for the most part. You can skip much of that if you don't need to access those. I find it to actually be pretty fast, even when going through the menus. I've used it so much that it just flows for me now. I find myself having to check the manual more with the RD-8. thanks for watching!
This is exactly what I wanted to know. I'm looking at getting a Behringer RD-8 and the RD-9 which is in the ballpark of the TR-8S.... plus from what I read the TR-8S can play other samples as well?
You can load your own samples into the TR-8S via SD card (you can't sample directly into the TR-8S). Chopping/editing them in the TR-8S is possible, via menu diving, but I've found that editing them before I transfer them in saves a lot of time & effort. TR-8S also has *most* of the other TR series drum machine sounds built in, plus a ton of other drum, percussion, effect noises, and even synth sounds - as well as the virtual FM engine (which sounds amazing). If it was me, and I wanted both 808 + 909 I'd go for the TR-8S.@@0x80O0oOverfl0w
Yes, the TR-8s comes with samples loaded and you can load your own. It's not just an 808 or a 909. It does the other Roland drum machines as well as whatever samples are loaded in it. thanks for watching!@@0x80O0oOverfl0w
@@deepsynths I just picked one up from Reverb the other day. I messed with it for a bit and it is awesome, I'm super stoked. It's in pieces right now though. Got some Deoxit Fader Lube that should be here tomorrow. Can't wait to get it cleaned, dried and put back together again!
The RD-8 MK II sounds a lot closer to my actual 808. The TR-8S sounds oddly compressed.
Could be the real analog design of the RD-8. Thanks for watching!
I have the RD-8 and love. I have all 3 Behringer drum machines and they all sound great in my opinion.
The Rd-8 sounds are brighter than the Tr-8s.
With this demo I must admit the RD 8ll is far better, but maybe the others tones have not been balanced correctly. I own the RD 8 original & I think it sounds pretty authentic & and does exactly what I want, right out the box, no need for any other clones. Also I like that each individual sound can be connected to an effect pedal or mixing channel or amp, if prefered & if you don't want the individual connections, then there's the one output jack to play everyrhing, not forgetting the headphone output. Masses of output options at an amazing price.
The RD 8 is a winner at that price point. No doubt about it. Thanks for watching!
RD-8 For The Win, hands down.
BEHRINGER absolutely nailed it about sounding right everything. This is absolutely spot on.
Some may say "obviously because it's analog" but all hihats/cymbals/... are digital on the BEHRINGER and they succeed to let them sounds WAY BETTER than ROLAND...!!
What a shame for ROLAND!
I mean who is supposed to reproduce better Roland's digital sounds than ROLAND itself with a more recent digital machine?...
BEHRINGER. LOL.
I've got a RD-9 and I think this is the best 909 EVER, including the original.
Same story with the RD-8 MK2 to me.
Not only you've got exactly a real 808/909 with same analog+digital circuitry, but plus you've got a HUGE expansion with very good new features, including MIDI of course...
Sincerely, this is a dream come true, in serious good construction quality (perfect sizing for real live playing, 100% metal firm knobs, very tactile buttons, thick very tactile steps buttons, very clear lights with different colors per functions for each of lights...), and...................VERY VERY VERY GOOD PRICE.
I gave my money to Behringer with pleasure.
Last thing : honestly, we can't blame Behringer to make these machines, we were waiting those SINCE DECADES AND DECADES but Japanese brands never listen their customers...
And this is a nonsense to me because Japan is struggling since decades and that was a so easy opportunity for them to make money...
Why god why they didn't ?
Fortunately Behringer did it.
Good points. It's a great time for synth and drum machines! The RD-8 is all analog, the RD-9 utilizes both analog and samples. Like the Roland originals.
@@deepsynths oh okay my bad for the 808/RD8! Thanks for sharing knowledge!!
Thx for best comparison. TR-8S have "digital sample". In my opinion, If If you're looking for real sound, choose RD8/RD9 or real old Roland. Digital sample give flat sound. A good ear will pick up this plastic flat artificial sound. TR8S is for creative people, but not have real cult sound. Real sound is from genuine Roland or analog replica or clone.
Thanks very much!
I ordered an RD-8 Mkii at Xmas time. Still waiting patiently for it.
Worth the wait!
it's March, what is taking so long..?? I bought one yesterday picking it up today.
@@fiddlestickzmuzik Chip shortage? I dunno. I’m in Canada and the main supplier, here, doesn’t have them in stock.
@@fiddlestickzmuzik The shipments were stuck on ships for awhile. Part of the supply chain problem at the ports on the west coast of the U.S.. This was the case in Nov. and Dec. of last year and may still be having some effect. There may have been other issues that have caused problems since then. They should be more available by now.
Roland hands down
It's not louder, there is just a lot more detail and midrange in the Behringer.
The tr-8s sounds a little muffled compared to the rd-8
Very interesting comparison. 👍🏻
Thanks!
Hey man I just came across this video and it’s an awesome comparison. I’m new to drum machines but I own the rd-8. Is it me or does the Tr8s sound more modern, balanced out, less “analogue” and less punchy than the rd-8?
Hey there, just saw your question. It's one a lot of people have about these two. The rd-8 does feel more "loose" to me. They can both be punchy, it seems to be more about the difference in the character of the sound. The rd-8 just seems more edgy from the start and loose. Which I think is due to the analog design. Glad you like it and thanks for watching!
Sorry to do this but the TR8S level is lower than the RD8. Not by much but enough. Once I level matched them it sounded quite a bit different. Overall I still prefer the fullness and overall ‘analogueness’ of the TR8S, but it is not night and day like it was before level matching.
Of course with a TR8S you get waaay more sounds - and FM!
Yeah the level matching is sort of challenge when you're making one of these videos with multiple sound comparisons. What do you match? The peak level, the average level, the perceived level? They're never all the same for different instruments on different machines unless you use compression or limiting. So you have to go for as close as you can get while still being fair to both pieces of gear. I go for a compromise of peak and perceived loudness on my studio monitors getting them as close as possible. Sometimes it seems as though it changes a bit after I upload to youtube because in the studio they're usually spot on. Thanks for checking it out! The TR-8s is happy to get your vote!
@@deepsynths match the average level. The volume probably has a huge influence on peoples preferences.
its not about the levels - all roland gear today sounds flat and kind of muffled
I remember the Cymbal deeper on my 808 (40 years ago) than the TR-8s Cym. So Behringer got that better than Roland themselves ? I am confused.
You would think Roland would nail it, no problem.
I brought the TR8S bcus the Behringer RD8 wasn't in Stock....
Here's the Thing...
The Behringer LOOKS awesome. Sounds Great like a TR-808 or TR-08.
COST about $350.
My plan was to Buy Both RD9 n RD8 But like I said. Not In Stock
The TR8S has 808 and 909. Kits. Sequences like a RD8 or Roland 909
Annnddd has 909 727, 606 ,etc etc
Basically ALL the Roland Drum Machines in one.
So...I'm happy with my TR8S. Ijs...Several Drum Machines are better than One.
But then Again
IF YOU REALLY LOVE RD8.
Go for it.
Enjoy it. (For me)
My only complain about the tr8s is it doesn't have real time sampling. Otherwise it's a great piece of kit and everything is too cheap nowadays. He'll go hog wall by tr8s and rd-9 RD8.
Hey all, I have the TR-8s and love , but I feel that it's not the real sound of the originals. When I put compression on it, it def gets better and more punchy and I love the tons of sounds , and the editor is AMAZING! it opens it up to be a super machine. But I still want the real analog sound and will probably buy the TD 8MkII today. thanks for making the vid, and I understand the challenges of try to do comparisons. But all of you out there, don't hate the TR-8s, it's still INSANE! I got some killllleeerrr drum and bass beats going on out of it that sounds like OG sampling for the Amen Break.I haven't even started loading samples yet ( I did do one test to see what it's like and the samples were from Roland. ) and sounded great.
Yes the TR-8s is definitely more than an 808 or 909 recreation, once you start loading samples you can make it anything you want. If you're using it for the drum source in a track it seems that's what most people would do. Make a custom hybrid kit. Why limit yourself? I put Linn Drum and DMX samples in mine. Sounded great!
@@deepsynths nice! make a vid of it heh heh
You match the masters
The problem is people think the TR8 and TR8S are suppose to be replicas of the 808 and 909… they are totally different beasts with way more advanced options!
The same goes for the TB-3! It’s not suppose to be just like the original! It sounds close enough and has way more sounds and more performance options…
stop driving yourselves crazy with comparisons and make some freakin music! 😅👍🏻
Rd8 mk2 hands down
The Behringer delivers at a price that is too good to pass on! The RD-9 was an automatic buy for me but I had to think about the RD-8. Glad I got it, 100%. If you listen to the last 80's beat at the end of the video with the keys over it you can see how it captures that vibe.
@@deepsynths I've had an obsession with the tr808 since the early 80s I think the first time I heard planet rock that was the track that really did it for me.
@@sirsilver1968 Hope you enjoyed that beat in this video (not processed to match sound of record though).
Something here doesn't seem quite right, I'm not for one second suggesting foul play, but maybe there was a genuine mistake made while recording.
My TR-8S sounds remarkably similar to my Tr-808, - the RD-8 mkii in these examples sounds much louder, almost to the point of having being compressed, when compared to the 8s.
I appreciate the posting and time taken, but I do feel the level of the TR-8s is very low compared to the RD-8, - but still it might just be my ageing ears.
One thing to take into consideration is the TR-8s is supposed to sound like a factory fresh 808 from the 80s, whereas the Behringer seems to have been voiced to have a more vintage sound.
- Running the 8s through some balancing DI boxes and adding some very mild saturation will yeild very similar results.
love to ALL, feel no hate
Edit,
In fact just applying the TR-8s Comp/overdrive effect to each instrument should probably be enough to give the illusion of an aged unit.
They were recorded straight through a UAD Apollo interface. I checked the levels and the individual sounds matched. The levels of the whole patterns would vary slightly but I decided to keep the individual sounds as they were instead of making another adjustment for beat patterns. For one, it helps the video flow better and it also shows a real difference in the 2 machines. As an owner of both I can say that they don't sound the same, especially the kick. I think that comes through accurately in the video. I like both machines, I'm keeping both but the RD-8 is definitely more present than the TR-8s.
Roland should clone the RD8 🤣
Yeah, but if Bowie's doing Lou, and Lou's Doing Bowie, Lou's still doing Lou
Roland didn’t listen to its customers for 30 years and still ignored them when they made digital machines with there laughable ACB stuff. Behringer have listened and make exactly what people want and Roland have paid the price. Such a shame really as Roland was such an iconic brand
30 years ago nobody really wanted vintage analogue drum machines and synths. The early 90s were all about digital synths, workstations and samplers. Roland also never made instruments for niche audiences, but served the mass market. Their target audience wants the latest and greatest in music technology and does not care at all about ancient analogue machines. From Roland's perspective it makes no sense to re-issue 40 year old instruments to please a tiny niche market instead of focusing on their main audience into which they invested 4 decades of R&D since these classic boxes came out. So them re-releasing their vintage machines is rather unlikely.
@@XanderEwald But who would that main audience be ? Who wants a drummachine that sounds like a cheap, thinner, copy and all those demos sound like elevator muzak.
@@snorrevonflake The whole synth department is a side business for Roland. They make their money with pianos, keyboards, guitar gear. As for your description of the sound of the TR-8, it sounds fine to me.
Honestly I think that Roland has nailed it sound wise with ACB. At least when it comes to 808 and 909.
The TR8S also has FM, and you can load samples into it. So if you want a more perfect sound on it, just upload it to it.
thx
Wow, thank you, was thinking about the TR8S because i want more and different sounds and more sound mangling possibilities but as i suspected it just does not sound like the real thing.
Most of the demos of those new Roland Machines sounded like elevator muzak to me and your videos confirm that impression.
First get the TR8S and then the Rd8 & Rd9 you need all of them :-)
The Roland is quieter. That being said, there's no way to judge.
Behringer RD-8 MK II sounds better
Amazing! I recently bought the RD-8, I noticed the output level is very low even with the pots all the way up (about -20db without accent), is this normal?
U have the mk1 or the mk2 ? Did u use some accent on the steps ? Make some accents anf u will have more volume
I haven't noticed anything like that. I'm pretty sure there's a difference when you switch from the main, single mono output to individual outs. Nothing that extreme though.
@@synthsproblems3475
MK2.
I didn't use any accents cause I want to understand if that is the normal output level
I think is deppends when r u listen the rd8 .. Have the same issue at the first and them i realize it was my problem .
Take it thru an amp and check it out of a computer
Behringer clearly wins. The TR8S sounds muffled, like all of Rolands COSM, ACB, ZenCore, analog emulation crap. It should be called POS.
The only thing not quite right on the RD-8 are the handclaps. Otherwise it's spot on!
The TR8S sounds dead compared to the RD8. And I’m shocked because the TR8S is supposed to do a very good emulation of the 808. I also saw a comparison between the TR8S and the RD9 and again the TR8S sounds dead compared to the RD9. I think Behringer really nailed it with both the RD8 mkii and the RD9.
There's definitely a liveness to the sound!
There is another and better option for most original sound. TR8s as a controller with Roland Cloud gives you the absolute best original sound and you can use it for 808, 909 etc. Much cheaper too.
The Roland Cloud is great. I subscribe to it. Lots of stuff on there. I've found the cloud's software version of synths to basically sound the same as the ACB versions loaded in the system 8 (in a test the best sound was the system 8 playing the patch over USB into the DAW but it was close). However I found the drum machines to not sound as large and punchy as the TR-8s. I wanted them to sound great but when I did a comparison they fell short. That was my experience at least. Thanks for checking it out!
Cloud and TRs run the same ACB sound engine though, right?
please elaborate. I have the tr8s...you mean i can use it with zenology? or what do you mean as a controller with Roland Cloud exactly? my curiosity is peaked.
More proof that Roland's ACB is just ACBS
wow the TR-8S sounds cheap and fake
That’s because it is
Lol yes indeed
TR8-S smokes the RD8 it has all the TR sounds😂 🤡 you sound like a hater clown
TR8S destroys the clone😂
Roland sounds dead