@ I needa get some of them shirts. There’s a friend I call a goose and that shirt’s tailor made for him. But yeah definitely hide under the blanket and have your back against the wall so they don’t get you at night.
Honestly the QX80 of the last years was already that. I've had one for a bit over 8 years now and it has been nothing short of incredible. I have the air suspension as well and it is very comfortable and smooth even off road. We have had no major issues with the truck, it has never left us stranded, and its performance is great. I was just doing some testing last night after doing a Direct Injection treatment (to prevent carbon build up) and it does 0-55MPH in 4.8 seconds, 5.8 to 60 (just due to me shifting it a bit early).
Empty platitudes unless you actually put your money where your mouth is and walk into your local nissan dealership for Toyotathon with a brand new 2025 Nissan Armada Platinum
I have had my Patrol for nearly 2 months now (in the UAE) and so far I agree with most of what you said. I chose the 3.8 V6 and standard suspension as I plan to keep it for at least a decade and have no need for fancy features, only reliability. So far, here are some things I’ve found: 1) The car is very quiet at any speed but at above 90MPH (we have roads with 100MPH/160KMH speed limits) there is slightly more wind noise for rear passengers. I investigated and found that only the front had double glazing for the windows, which I was a bit disappointed about. That said, it is essentially a non-issue, and the sound system easily drowns it out. 2) The electric steering is quite dull, but that is to be expected with any modern car with electric steering. 3) The dual screen setup and heads up display is rather distracting (modern car issue). The sound system is extremely bass heavy and slightly muddy, but after playing with it a little I have found a setup I enjoy. 4) The build quality is very good, interior quality better than a Land Cruiser and comparable to a Land Rover Defender. The leather is great and the piano black is entirely free of scratches so far, but we will have to see about long term durability. 5) Occupant comfort is excellent. All seats are exceptionally comfortable and there are multiple charging ports for each passenger. Rear seats have an optional screen. Oddly, there is no integrated sunshade for the rear doors. Maybe they’ll add it later or for different markets, but I don’t have them on mine (fully loaded except air suspension) and I haven’t seen any with them. If anyone has any questions feel free to ask and I will try to answer them.
@ I don’t know about the North American market but in the Middle East it is more similar to the Land Cruiser than the American counterparts in terms of depreciation.
Given the demographic and use case. How long is the standard ownership? I've been a few times to the UAE. Dubai and whatnot. Do they do the USA corporate thing of buying or leasing and swapping after 3 years? Or would this be a long term ownership? From my seat this is one of the few modern vehicles that'll outlive it's "standard loan" in the USA and the value comes at exactly that. It'll be paid off and have years left. Vs some of these new Toyotas that are 80k and turn to piles after the 2nd year
Honestly this new truck looks great. As someone who owns a QX80 for 8 years now and has been very satisfied with it, this looks like a true successor. I see some of the technology that is in my truck has been carried over to the new version, but overall we haven't had any issues with any of the technology breaking and ours is literally 15 years old in a few months and has 158k miles. We have driven it in every single climate and season scenario... from mud to snow to sleet to ice to floods... it has never let us down.
@@SilverScarletSpider Not in a position to drop this kind of money on a brand new truck. Especially considering how my QX80 works totally fine and has been paid off for 5 years already. These days we mostly drive our LEAF for local stuff and only use the QX for long trips and other family outings or if people come to visit and we need 7 passengers.
I have the 2021 Nissan Armada SL with four wheel drive, and I just love this vehicle. It now has over 40,000 mi and I am very happy that I purchased the last of the V8 engines along with the seven speed automatic transmission which has proven extremely reliable for the past 30 years. The one thing I worry about the new Nissan Armada is the unproven reliability of the V6 with turbo and the nine speed automatic transmission. I hope there's no issues with it but I know that the Endurance V8 will last at least two to 300,000 mi maybe even longer
@@ivannadler1789 the 7 speed hasn’t been around for 30 years. It was introduced in 09 in the 370Z. reliability is maybe average. The 5 speed before it was the real goat. I hope yours is trouble free though.
You're right, I meant to say the endurance V8 engine has been around a long time. And I am hoping that the seven speed transmission is as good as the old five speed.
@@ivannadler1789 I really hope so too. My daily is a 13 Titan. I’ve had Hardbodys and Frontiers too. None of them have given me a reason not to buy Nissan again.
Given that it is related to the GTR engine which is around 17 years old and the fact that it can withstand tons of power, I'd imagine it will be pretty reliable in the long run.
Very few people make enough money to buy an $80k car. A lot of mid-income people *think* they can afford it, but then they realize 10% APRs and 120 month loans are a death sentence.
@@theglowcloud2215 This is true. And generally agree. Although leases do exist and for whatever reason, 50k dollar trucks are sold at a fever blistering pace left and right. For the right socio economic background, pretend or not, this car looks awesome.
Man, the videography of the last 4-6 episodes has been increasingly engaging and professionally executed. SG has imposed its own path and will for its own benefit and for all of us because they chose to. Thank you, thank you, SG!
To be honest, the outgoing model is pretty good off-road too, It lacks the locking diffs -- but then so do a lot of 4Runners. It would have no problems with the test course. We have a '21 SL to which we added AT tires and a front skid plate. We've done some kind of gnarly things out in the southwest (e.g. low and medium levels in OnX Offroad), and it's done very well. We got into some situations where the 4LO was definitely needed as was the front camera to see over steep rises. The new Pro-4X looks great, but the other models (and the previous years) are pretty capable too (even if very few owners use it for off-roading). Our '21 is also hella comfortable for long road trips. If you can't afford one of the new ones, maybe look at one coming off a rental lease -- you can get some pretty great deals on 2-3 year old versions.
@@aygwm Me either, but then I haven't had them either. They're less necessary now that traction/control wheel-braking systems are able to transfer power to the non-slipping wheels. The system on our '21 Armada seems to work well.
@@Papolucho702 I bought a 78k mile QX56 (QX80) 2011 model in 2016. I have had it for 8 years now and it has 158k miles.... we have taken it EVERYWHERE and it has never failed us. All original electronics work as well, minus one window regulator my son broke as a baby and a mirror folding unit that got damaged in a hurricane... Every camera works, radio and CD player work, all speakers and sensors and lights work as well. Our original TFT LCD screen is now finally burning out (the truck is about to be 15 years old) and I have just ordered a new one. Engine runs like a champ and I send my oil to blackstone once per year. Engine is perfect with nothing in the oil that shouldn't be there. My truck doesn't really burn or leak any oil either.
@@aygwm Then you've never really offroaded. Nothing wrong with that obviously, and most people would never be in a position to need a rear locker or rear and front locker - certainly not in a $80000 vehicle in North America. I can tell you though that real mechanical lockers front and rear make a huge difference in certain situations and no amount of traction control (brake torque distribution) can compete with mechanically locking diffs in those rare situations.l
I see faux pax' like this and think of the Jackie Stewart commercial for Ford Tempo when he noted that, "Aerodynamics come into play at any speed." Oof!
What are you people talking about. The way it sets down from two tires to four is butter smooth. You can see the front right absorb all the oscillation as it's dropped onto.
Yeah, always thought the Armada was underrated. Glad Nissan is still in the full size SUV game. The working man's Land Cruiser and nothing wrong with that.
They build tons of good vehicles, they just get lots of hate from the days of CVTs that had issues out of the gate. However the trucks like this never had those problems and have been solid for the past 20 years. If you bought a non-CVT Nissan/Infiniti in the past 20 years; you got a great product. Don't forget that before the Q60 with electric steering; Infiniti was the #1 most reliable brand. They only lost it to Lexus because of the electric steering issues in the Q50/Q60.
I had rented the previous gen Armada once, enjoyed it alot. Its great to see Nissan moving towards the right direction. A company with so much heritage and history of making good cars ( and not so good ones). Regarding it having a lot of trch, that's the reality of a majority of brands now.
I find it interesting when you say 80k is a massive ask for a Nissan. Top of the line Ford, Nissan and Chevy trucks easily hit 80k. Except you will actually be able to buy the Armada for msrp and I am nearly certain the quality is better then the Chevy or Ford.
@@aygwm Honestly large SUV's like this with all the bells & whisles have been expensive for a decade.... my QX80 from 2011 (called QX56 then before they changed the names in 2014) was 92k sticker. Has many of the options on this 2024 Armada... Escalade's were around the same price back then, but most of those escalades are in the junkyard now due to electronics failures or transmissions exploding.
@dragospahontu it doesn't. It also has a really poor motor and in the last iteration it didn't perform well or get good gas mileage and it wasn't reliable off-road either.
Nissan's trucks and large SUVs are underrated, in my opinion. Imagine what position Nissan would be in today if they decided ten years ago to put the 7 speed auto in all their vehicles instead of the Jatco CVT.
The cvt didn't kill Nissan, stagnation and selling cheap cars did. Look at all the other manufacturers with overpriced junk like Ford and Toyota...they're doing great. Jatco has built over 55 million cvts. Acting like they all failed is like saying all 12 million Pentastar 3.6s failed when there's hundreds of thousands with over 200k miles on them with no issues. Consider that every beat up 2010 Altima you see doing 90mph on the highway missing wheel covers and half it's front bumper has at least 150k miles on it and never had the trans fluid changed.
@@stevee8318 CVT issues way overblown online. They are in their current position because they were averaging 1.5 million sales a year in China alone. In 2023 they only sold 98,000 vehicles in China. China is producing their own cars and Chinese people are gravitating towards the China brands now. China is the largest car market in the world.
@@Sheepleton There were no big problems with Nissan engines and their interiors are class competitive. Part of the reason Nissans are considered cheap is because the Jatco CVTs *were* cheap. Nissan paid hundreds of millions of $$ to settle lawsuits because they were defective, not because their customers failed to change the fluid.
Their truck platform has always been solid.... same with their RWD car platform. The only ones that had problems were the cheaper FWD platform vehicles. Mostly due to people not servicing CVT's and driving them like they stole it all the time LOL
@@faheemabbas3965it may be able to be ran with 87 octane, but doesn’t mean it should be. Direct injection, twin turbos, heavy vehicle, yeah this thing will be pre-detonating like crazy. Any and every mechanic will advise against cheap, low octane gas after the damage you see to the pistons and cylinder walls due to pre-detonation.
Feels good to see a good review again. It comes to the wrong time or maybe good time? Now that the engineers can do their work properly again. Although the old generation was not bad and one of the few good Ghosn influences...
Looking forward to seeing the thoughts of the Geese on the 2025 Tahoe and Yukon, as well as a more full review of the Armada. I'm in the market for a full-size SUV and those are my top three. I already have a below msrp offer on either a Yukon Elevation or Tahoe LT, but I may hold on to see what the Armada is like.
@@SilverScarletSpiderRecently, Chevy reported some issues with the 6.2l engine, but the ride quality of the Tahoe is a top-notch notch. At the end of the day, armada vs. Tahoe, which is an international market product vs. American nation product fit and finish Quality is slightly lower in Tahoe
@@Visibile444 I kinda like the base model Infinti QX60 AWD more because it is only $82K and has a really high quality interior with a badge that just tells everyone else on the road "back off"
@@SilverScarletSpider, I avoid choosing luxury names like Lexus Infinity, Acura, or Audi. If I choose a real luxury Mercedes, BMW, or Jag Landrover because the insurance of other luxury names will be higher compared to their parent brand, at the same time, the top-end versions of the parent brand will give you their luxury name comforts.
After seeing what happened when Toyota switched from V8 to V6TT, and being familiar with the VR30 architecture from the Q50, I wouldn't trade my VK56 V8 QX80 for the new platform just yet. But I do like what they've done with the interior and feature set.
Bravo for using the Patrol Nissan! Hopefully this goes well for them. Wish it was cheaper, to force people into looking at them as an option, for those who are into these types of vehicles.
56k on the base is pretty cheap, when we bought our QX80 8 years ago; a new Tahoe was 50k base model and the Armada hadn't switched to the new platform yet but was still around 45k base... so considering all the inflation, it is only a few dollars more expensive than it would have been 8 years ago, meaning it is under the pace for inflation.
Test drove this as the SL trim. Was pretty awesome. Good power and would be a great as family hauler. Was going to put a deposit on the Pro4X, but they did not have the option for second row captain's chairs. Now debating between SL or Platinum.
@savagegeese I'm looking for a Tahoe/Suburban or Expedition to shuttle around my 3 kids. There are no discounts to be had on those but Nissan is selling top-trim Armada's with $12k discounts, down to $63k versus ~$80k for Expeditions. Any thoughts?
Honesty, long time toyota fan, took a chance on the last gen armada and liked it. I think this generation of Armada is more interesting than any of the US toyota Body on frame SUV's.
I hope Nissan's current dire predicament will finally instill in them the realization that they really have to build a reputation for quality, reliability, longevity and ease of maintenance. That's what's really important for most people.
I want a the pro4x trim. Nissan has always made very good body on frame vehicles. Especially this one being related to the patrol, they won’t ever mess this one up because of the Middle East market.
Off topic, but I wondered what the smallest Toyota is for the US market and was first surprised that the Yaris isn't listed and then that the Corolla hatchback costs more than the Corolla sedan/liftback. In Europe we also have the Aygo, smaller than the Yaris.
Hooking up with Renault and the Ghosn debacle sowed the seeds for Nissan’s current mess. Crappy CVTs also hurt. Let’s see who takes them over. This vehicle is a step in the right direction, hopefully it will prove relatively reliable.
It’s developed with heavy consideration for the Middle Eastern market. I am sure it will be very reliable, just short of a Land Cruiser. We just have to wait and see with the new turbo engine option and air suspension.
@@frederickmiller5492 You are right. I’ve actually had my Patrol in the UAE for almost 2 months now. I optioned it without the turbo engine and air suspension and so far it is good. I can live without those issues.
These vehicles should be reliable. The previous gen was the most reliable of ALL VEHICLES in this class. Bar none. They are THE CHOICE of the Middle eastern market Princes and other Royalty. The sales never slowed down and everyone who owns one has basically loved it. My 2011 has air suspension and it hasn't failed in any way at 158k miles and my truck is 15 years old in a few months and has been on every terrain but a desert, multiple times.
Love it when you're in TN for filming! I was out at Leiper's Fork riding this past weekend but went left back on to the Trace instead of continuing straight as you did in the road test portion. Hope you had a good time down here.
I hope Nissan can survive. With products like this, hopefully it gets more exposure in the market. Nissan can make some good vehicles if given a chance.
@brianbrianbrianbrianbrianbrian I was one of the first 48 subscribers back when Mark still had hair and I am still down to the ground in pain with him.
The New 2025 Nissan Armada out classes the New Land Cruiser From Toyota to me. The Large Luxury Real Off Road Option is the 2025 Nissan made in Japan. 😎🇺🇸🇮🇱👍
Only 5 min in and I can solemnly say from the frontier reception to marks review here. We are trying to give Nissan the best light of what it is. And you can see plainly from the interior. They are trying here. Will it be enough to help turn Nissan around? I don't know. But if the hardware is up to the same par as the frontier (or better) this will be a solid rig to actually buy and use for ten years. Nissan usa if you are reading this. Please give us the xterra based on the shortened frontier chassis. I think that's gonna be a real 4runner competitor and get Nissan back into the minds of the American buyer
Very cool seeing you drive around where I grew up. I know every road you're on. Very brave doing the acceleration run right by the park ranger station. :)
Vs. the “it rides so badly it gives me a migraine” rattly old nasty pickup Sequoia, as you described before, these are great to drive. Good timing to do a comparison (ala your recent 3 row crossovers one) but Armada vs Wagoneer vs. Expedition vs. Tahoe vs. Sequoia, especially since all are newly updated except for the archaic Sequoia & recent fresh Wag.
IMHO destroys the Sequoia. Especially considering Toyota's spying scandals, poor quality on newer cars and issues with the new turbo engines exploding left and right.
Funny propotions, long beaky front overhang, and giant wheel wells makes it look like the tires/rims are too small. I do think Nissan punched above their weight with the rogue/pathfinder redesigns, but maybe not so much here. The Nissan interiors have been really stepping up though I have to say.
from that offroad footage you can see it has very limited suspension travel. It has become 90%city large SUV compared to the previous gen which in Australia, loads of people use it as offroad camping vehicle
Man, those geese on the new intro are absolutely _savage_
Think ill have nightmares tonight
@ I needa get some of them shirts. There’s a friend I call a goose and that shirt’s tailor made for him. But yeah definitely hide under the blanket and have your back against the wall so they don’t get you at night.
Q: What’s a wild goose?
A: One that’s slightly off center.
Yes they are savage geese, aren't they?
You can tell Nissan really is trying here, looks to be on par or better then what Ford, GM and Toyota have to offer, bravo Nissan!
Honestly the QX80 of the last years was already that. I've had one for a bit over 8 years now and it has been nothing short of incredible. I have the air suspension as well and it is very comfortable and smooth even off road. We have had no major issues with the truck, it has never left us stranded, and its performance is great. I was just doing some testing last night after doing a Direct Injection treatment (to prevent carbon build up) and it does 0-55MPH in 4.8 seconds, 5.8 to 60 (just due to me shifting it a bit early).
Empty platitudes unless you actually put your money where your mouth is and walk into your local nissan dealership for Toyotathon with a brand new 2025 Nissan Armada Platinum
@@ingaz6565 not so sure. GM with magride is the benchmark.
@@hkfan4596 GM can't manufacture reliable transmissions, so it's kind of moot
I have had my Patrol for nearly 2 months now (in the UAE) and so far I agree with most of what you said. I chose the 3.8 V6 and standard suspension as I plan to keep it for at least a decade and have no need for fancy features, only reliability.
So far, here are some things I’ve found:
1) The car is very quiet at any speed but at above 90MPH (we have roads with 100MPH/160KMH speed limits) there is slightly more wind noise for rear passengers. I investigated and found that only the front had double glazing for the windows, which I was a bit disappointed about. That said, it is essentially a non-issue, and the sound system easily drowns it out.
2) The electric steering is quite dull, but that is to be expected with any modern car with electric steering.
3) The dual screen setup and heads up display is rather distracting (modern car issue). The sound system is extremely bass heavy and slightly muddy, but after playing with it a little I have found a setup I enjoy.
4) The build quality is very good, interior quality better than a Land Cruiser and comparable to a Land Rover Defender. The leather is great and the piano black is entirely free of scratches so far, but we will have to see about long term durability.
5) Occupant comfort is excellent. All seats are exceptionally comfortable and there are multiple charging ports for each passenger. Rear seats have an optional screen. Oddly, there is no integrated sunshade for the rear doors. Maybe they’ll add it later or for different markets, but I don’t have them on mine (fully loaded except air suspension) and I haven’t seen any with them.
If anyone has any questions feel free to ask and I will try to answer them.
How well does it whole its value over competitor’s?
@ I don’t know about the North American market but in the Middle East it is more similar to the Land Cruiser than the American counterparts in terms of depreciation.
Given the demographic and use case. How long is the standard ownership? I've been a few times to the UAE. Dubai and whatnot. Do they do the USA corporate thing of buying or leasing and swapping after 3 years? Or would this be a long term ownership?
From my seat this is one of the few modern vehicles that'll outlive it's "standard loan" in the USA and the value comes at exactly that. It'll be paid off and have years left. Vs some of these new Toyotas that are 80k and turn to piles after the 2nd year
3.8 V6? We only have a 3.5 twin turbo option in the U.S. Is that 3.8 the GTR engine? What are the specs for the 3.8 in your Patrol?
@@tragicnomadicmostly long term, especially now with the prices of new cars, i have a 2018 nissan patrol and 2016 nissan safari, they run great
I actually like the Armada. Definitely a contender for my next vehicle. I haven’t owned a Nissan in 20 years but I feel like they nailed this.
This is really nice, honestly the current generation (now last gen) one is really great as well.
Agreed, it’s cool looking with such a nice interior.
Considering the prices of new vehicles, it's important that you be able to sleep in it.
lmao
I’ll still take this over the Jeep Wagoneer
💯
Not a very high bar
No lies
@@Mr99Burns Jeeps today are just big depreciations like Nissans
Both will be bankrupt in a few years, so it's a case of "pick your poison"
Honestly this new truck looks great. As someone who owns a QX80 for 8 years now and has been very satisfied with it, this looks like a true successor. I see some of the technology that is in my truck has been carried over to the new version, but overall we haven't had any issues with any of the technology breaking and ours is literally 15 years old in a few months and has 158k miles. We have driven it in every single climate and season scenario... from mud to snow to sleet to ice to floods... it has never let us down.
Honestly you should buy a Nissan Armada before they go away forever
@@SilverScarletSpider Not in a position to drop this kind of money on a brand new truck. Especially considering how my QX80 works totally fine and has been paid off for 5 years already.
These days we mostly drive our LEAF for local stuff and only use the QX for long trips and other family outings or if people come to visit and we need 7 passengers.
I have a 2020 QX80….its a hidden gem in the full size SUV arena…and very reliable
This should easily beat the Sequia in a lot of areas especially the rear cargo area.
And third row seating space.
The price!
I have the 2021 Nissan Armada SL with four wheel drive, and I just love this vehicle. It now has over 40,000 mi and I am very happy that I purchased the last of the V8 engines along with the seven speed automatic transmission which has proven extremely reliable for the past 30 years. The one thing I worry about the new Nissan Armada is the unproven reliability of the V6 with turbo and the nine speed automatic transmission. I hope there's no issues with it but I know that the Endurance V8 will last at least two to 300,000 mi maybe even longer
@@ivannadler1789 the 7 speed hasn’t been around for 30 years. It was introduced in 09 in the 370Z. reliability is maybe average. The 5 speed before it was the real goat. I hope yours is trouble free though.
You're right, I meant to say the endurance V8 engine has been around a long time. And I am hoping that the seven speed transmission is as good as the old five speed.
@@ivannadler1789 I'm with you. The V8 is a solid, proven platform. Not trading in our 18 QX80 for the turbo at this point.
@@ivannadler1789 I really hope so too. My daily is a 13 Titan. I’ve had Hardbodys and Frontiers too. None of them have given me a reason not to buy Nissan again.
Given that it is related to the GTR engine which is around 17 years old and the fact that it can withstand tons of power, I'd imagine it will be pretty reliable in the long run.
This genuinely looks like a good vehicle. If I made enough money to buy this new, I'd seriously consider it.
Very few people make enough money to buy an $80k car. A lot of mid-income people *think* they can afford it, but then they realize 10% APRs and 120 month loans are a death sentence.
@@theglowcloud2215 This is true. And generally agree.
Although leases do exist and for whatever reason, 50k dollar trucks are sold at a fever blistering pace left and right. For the right socio economic background, pretend or not, this car looks awesome.
Man, the videography of the last 4-6 episodes has been increasingly engaging and professionally executed. SG has imposed its own path and will for its own benefit and for all of us because they chose to. Thank you, thank you, SG!
And the new intro is fantastic
All the 2025 Frontier drivers saying "WHERE WAS THIS CAMERA SYSTEM WHEN THEY MADE MY TRUCK?!?!"
Got lost in the 20k price cut
They should throw the 3.5 in the frontier as well since the titan is dead
I hope Nissan makes a comeback 🎉
I hope you buy a 2024 Nissan Z
To be honest, the outgoing model is pretty good off-road too, It lacks the locking diffs -- but then so do a lot of 4Runners. It would have no problems with the test course. We have a '21 SL to which we added AT tires and a front skid plate. We've done some kind of gnarly things out in the southwest (e.g. low and medium levels in OnX Offroad), and it's done very well. We got into some situations where the 4LO was definitely needed as was the front camera to see over steep rises. The new Pro-4X looks great, but the other models (and the previous years) are pretty capable too (even if very few owners use it for off-roading). Our '21 is also hella comfortable for long road trips. If you can't afford one of the new ones, maybe look at one coming off a rental lease -- you can get some pretty great deals on 2-3 year old versions.
Never in my life have I needed a locking diff
@@aygwm Me either, but then I haven't had them either. They're less necessary now that traction/control wheel-braking systems are able to transfer power to the non-slipping wheels. The system on our '21 Armada seems to work well.
I was looking at one. 2019, 89k miles and was used as a rental. Under 19k for it. Hmmm!
@@Papolucho702 I bought a 78k mile QX56 (QX80) 2011 model in 2016. I have had it for 8 years now and it has 158k miles.... we have taken it EVERYWHERE and it has never failed us. All original electronics work as well, minus one window regulator my son broke as a baby and a mirror folding unit that got damaged in a hurricane...
Every camera works, radio and CD player work, all speakers and sensors and lights work as well.
Our original TFT LCD screen is now finally burning out (the truck is about to be 15 years old) and I have just ordered a new one.
Engine runs like a champ and I send my oil to blackstone once per year. Engine is perfect with nothing in the oil that shouldn't be there.
My truck doesn't really burn or leak any oil either.
@@aygwm Then you've never really offroaded. Nothing wrong with that obviously, and most people would never be in a position to need a rear locker or rear and front locker - certainly not in a $80000 vehicle in North America. I can tell you though that real mechanical lockers front and rear make a huge difference in certain situations and no amount of traction control (brake torque distribution) can compete with mechanically locking diffs in those rare situations.l
Been waiting for this truck since it was announced. Definitely heading down to the dealer for a drive and hopefully a purchase.
This is more of a true Land Cruiser than the new Toyota Land Cruiser.
Different segments. Also new Land Cruiser has a magnitude of order more articulation than this
It is actually better, Nissan never lost their roots with the Patrol platform.
FACTS! You hit it on point!
09:35 “There is a lot of suspension articulation here” as this beast imitates the articulation of a frozen skateboard
Totally lol. Not exactly its strongest suit
I see faux pax' like this and think of the Jackie Stewart commercial for Ford Tempo when he noted that, "Aerodynamics come into play at any speed." Oof!
Loosen those trucks up!
What are you people talking about. The way it sets down from two tires to four is butter smooth. You can see the front right absorb all the oscillation as it's dropped onto.
@@bloomtom We're talking about articulation, something that did not happen here. What are you talking about?
This is the first Nissan in a long time that I’m actually impressed with. If I were in the market for big 3-row, I’d seriously look at the Armada.
Love that Nissan is not going down without a fight, this seems like a great product overall
With the Honda merger. I think we will see a lot more of Nissan in the future.
Yeah, always thought the Armada was underrated. Glad Nissan is still in the full size SUV game. The working man's Land Cruiser and nothing wrong with that.
It is better than the Land Cruiser, especially the QX80 version.
Mr Working man wants to buy a new 2024 Nissan Armada 😂before
Thank you for this. It was really good to know that Nissan's engineers can still manage, once-in-a-while, to build a good motor vehicle.
They build tons of good vehicles, they just get lots of hate from the days of CVTs that had issues out of the gate. However the trucks like this never had those problems and have been solid for the past 20 years.
If you bought a non-CVT Nissan/Infiniti in the past 20 years; you got a great product.
Don't forget that before the Q60 with electric steering; Infiniti was the #1 most reliable brand. They only lost it to Lexus because of the electric steering issues in the Q50/Q60.
The Nissan Armada and V6 Frontier are waiting for you at your local dealer
Mark: appologies for doing yet another SUV review :)
I enjoyed it :)
I had rented the previous gen Armada once, enjoyed it alot.
Its great to see Nissan moving towards the right direction. A company with so much heritage and history of making good cars ( and not so good ones).
Regarding it having a lot of trch, that's the reality of a majority of brands now.
I find it interesting when you say 80k is a massive ask for a Nissan. Top of the line Ford, Nissan and Chevy trucks easily hit 80k. Except you will actually be able to buy the Armada for msrp and I am nearly certain the quality is better then the Chevy or Ford.
80k for a daily driving car is just insane
@@aygwm Honestly large SUV's like this with all the bells & whisles have been expensive for a decade.... my QX80 from 2011 (called QX56 then before they changed the names in 2014) was 92k sticker. Has many of the options on this 2024 Armada... Escalade's were around the same price back then, but most of those escalades are in the junkyard now due to electronics failures or transmissions exploding.
Yes but Toyota LC has so much more tech for the price.
@dragospahontu it doesn't. It also has a really poor motor and in the last iteration it didn't perform well or get good gas mileage and it wasn't reliable off-road either.
@@Jimster481 I'm talking about the new car. It is a far more effective offroader with the anti roll bars disabled and more efficient with the hybrid.
Nissan's trucks and large SUVs are underrated, in my opinion. Imagine what position Nissan would be in today if they decided ten years ago to put the 7 speed auto in all their vehicles instead of the Jatco CVT.
Agreed, those CVTs really stunted Nissan/Infiniti's growth as a brand, hampering its well-being today (i.e. bankruptcy).
The cvt didn't kill Nissan, stagnation and selling cheap cars did. Look at all the other manufacturers with overpriced junk like Ford and Toyota...they're doing great. Jatco has built over 55 million cvts. Acting like they all failed is like saying all 12 million Pentastar 3.6s failed when there's hundreds of thousands with over 200k miles on them with no issues. Consider that every beat up 2010 Altima you see doing 90mph on the highway missing wheel covers and half it's front bumper has at least 150k miles on it and never had the trans fluid changed.
I’d probably be driving a Maxima
@@stevee8318 CVT issues way overblown online. They are in their current position because they were averaging 1.5 million sales a year in China alone. In 2023 they only sold 98,000 vehicles in China. China is producing their own cars and Chinese people are gravitating towards the China brands now. China is the largest car market in the world.
@@Sheepleton There were no big problems with Nissan engines and their interiors are class competitive. Part of the reason Nissans are considered cheap is because the Jatco CVTs *were* cheap. Nissan paid hundreds of millions of $$ to settle lawsuits because they were defective, not because their customers failed to change the fluid.
Good lord, the new intro has raised my T levels so high that my wife’s boyfriend got scared and FINALLY left our house
look at those physical controls 🤤
777k subscriptions! Let's go! We need to get this to 1 million!
I'll call my relatives.
@bigpeeler lol. I'm just hyped that this thing is finally growing
Jackpot
It’s criminal that other idiot channels have way over 1mil and SG doesn’t
How it wasn’t there years ago I have no idea!
If this had a Honda badge on it, all journalists would be praising it. Yet when they say "Nissan" like it's a bad thing.
9:34 “There’s a lot of suspension articulation here.”
He must’ve been joking.
Yeah, there is almost no articulation at all. Very stiff in that section.
I was shocked when the camera panned. lol almost zero articulation.
Quite shocking how stiff it was. An LC300 would have all tires on the ground in that scenario.
Darn, one of my favorite segments is when you put them up on the Bendpak and talk engine and mechanics of the vehicle.
My next car.
I rented an Armada once Really enjoyed the Bose sound system in it. My neighbors were also very impressed because it’s so big.
I bet they did.
My 23 Armada Bose system is awful
Why is this so good compared to the rest of their platforms. Great video. Looks like a top tier all road hauler
Their truck platform has always been solid.... same with their RWD car platform. The only ones that had problems were the cheaper FWD platform vehicles. Mostly due to people not servicing CVT's and driving them like they stole it all the time LOL
With how crazy Toyota pricing has become (for a bunch of 4 bangers, mind you), I think Nissan is making a good case for itself with this.
This takes regular fuel too despite having a TTV6.
TTV6, base trim level is 56k, wtf are you smoking? You're just hating on Toyota at this point 😂
@@faheemabbas3965it may be able to be ran with 87 octane, but doesn’t mean it should be. Direct injection, twin turbos, heavy vehicle, yeah this thing will be pre-detonating like crazy. Any and every mechanic will advise against cheap, low octane gas after the damage you see to the pistons and cylinder walls due to pre-detonation.
@@haroldbeauchamp3770 I agree. My QX80 only uses Premium, I can't imagine putting in regular.
Made in Japan and bulletproof
I love the use of the physical buttons 😍
I'd would take this over everything in the segment.
I like it, if you can get 20% off the MSRP.
30% !! Especially with Nissan 's depreciation 😢
Yes, 20% off is called a Pathfinder. 😮😊
Why not wait until it's a year old and get 50% off?
Its not 2012, those days are over.
@future62 we were doing that shit in early 2020.
with recent news, I like it that the dealer are giving steep discounts on these. great value.
Seems like Nissan did a pretty good job with this, i hope it does well
Feels good to see a good review again. It comes to the wrong time or maybe good time? Now that the engineers can do their work properly again. Although the old generation was not bad and one of the few good Ghosn influences...
Looking forward to seeing the thoughts of the Geese on the 2025 Tahoe and Yukon, as well as a more full review of the Armada. I'm in the market for a full-size SUV and those are my top three. I already have a below msrp offer on either a Yukon Elevation or Tahoe LT, but I may hold on to see what the Armada is like.
I didn't hold on. Ordered a Yukon!
I love the look of the gauges. I hope in works out well for Nissan
This new intro is growing on me, the quality of it is stunning
Its a perfect representation of their professionalism and quality alongside their brand of humor.
😂
Man this is impressive, especially given that engine is carried through on the entry level model.
Where are they filming?
Tennessee
@jmakhlouf422 thought so I'm from there
Kentucky
Armada is really awesome.
I was about to consider the Ford Expedition, but now I must wait for a test drive. See what makes best in the competition
The question is now Nissan Armada vs Chevorlet Tahoe 😂
@@SilverScarletSpiderRecently, Chevy reported some issues with the 6.2l engine, but the ride quality of the Tahoe is a top-notch notch. At the end of the day, armada vs. Tahoe, which is an international market product vs. American nation product fit and finish Quality is slightly lower in Tahoe
@@Visibile444 I kinda like the base model Infinti QX60 AWD more because it is only $82K and has a really high quality interior with a badge that just tells everyone else on the road "back off"
@@SilverScarletSpider, I avoid choosing luxury names like Lexus Infinity, Acura, or Audi. If I choose a real luxury Mercedes, BMW, or Jag Landrover because the insurance of other luxury names will be higher compared to their parent brand, at the same time, the top-end versions of the parent brand will give you their luxury name comforts.
@@Visibile444How was it?
After seeing what happened when Toyota switched from V8 to V6TT, and being familiar with the VR30 architecture from the Q50, I wouldn't trade my VK56 V8 QX80 for the new platform just yet. But I do like what they've done with the interior and feature set.
Just bought a 23 QX80 bc of this over the new armada/qx
Bravo for using the Patrol Nissan! Hopefully this goes well for them. Wish it was cheaper, to force people into looking at them as an option, for those who are into these types of vehicles.
56k on the base is pretty cheap, when we bought our QX80 8 years ago; a new Tahoe was 50k base model and the Armada hadn't switched to the new platform yet but was still around 45k base... so considering all the inflation, it is only a few dollars more expensive than it would have been 8 years ago, meaning it is under the pace for inflation.
Test drove this as the SL trim. Was pretty awesome. Good power and would be a great as family hauler. Was going to put a deposit on the Pro4X, but they did not have the option for second row captain's chairs. Now debating between SL or Platinum.
@savagegeese I'm looking for a Tahoe/Suburban or Expedition to shuttle around my 3 kids. There are no discounts to be had on those but Nissan is selling top-trim Armada's with $12k discounts, down to $63k versus ~$80k for Expeditions. Any thoughts?
love it. this is awesome. let's go Nissan.
Please please do Vinfast VF8, I really want to know what you guys think of the underneath stuff.
Vietnam 🇻🇳 cars vs Thailand 🇹🇭 cars Vinfast or Thairung
Gotta hand it to Nissan, that looks pretty competitive.
Honesty, long time toyota fan, took a chance on the last gen armada and liked it. I think this generation of Armada is more interesting than any of the US toyota Body on frame SUV's.
The Pro4X looks good, hope to see Nissan make a good turn around
This looks really good and it's still disappointing to me that they cancelled the Titan. I would love to see this kind of refresh on that truck.
Three-Row Mark back at it again
I hope Nissan's current dire predicament will finally instill in them the realization that they really have to build a reputation for quality, reliability, longevity and ease of maintenance. That's what's really important for most people.
I want a the pro4x trim. Nissan has always made very good body on frame vehicles. Especially this one being related to the patrol, they won’t ever mess this one up because of the Middle East market.
Off topic, but I wondered what the smallest Toyota is for the US market and was first surprised that the Yaris isn't listed and then that the Corolla hatchback costs more than the Corolla sedan/liftback.
In Europe we also have the Aygo, smaller than the Yaris.
Hooking up with Renault and the Ghosn debacle sowed the seeds for Nissan’s current mess. Crappy CVTs also hurt. Let’s see who takes them over. This vehicle is a step in the right direction, hopefully it will prove relatively reliable.
It’s developed with heavy consideration for the Middle Eastern market. I am sure it will be very reliable, just short of a Land Cruiser. We just have to wait and see with the new turbo engine option and air suspension.
@@FJCruiser-xs8is air suspensions are notorious nightmares in most cars. I'm gonna stick with a lower trim without air suspension.
@@frederickmiller5492 You are right. I’ve actually had my Patrol in the UAE for almost 2 months now. I optioned it without the turbo engine and air suspension and so far it is good. I can live without those issues.
These vehicles should be reliable. The previous gen was the most reliable of ALL VEHICLES in this class. Bar none. They are THE CHOICE of the Middle eastern market Princes and other Royalty. The sales never slowed down and everyone who owns one has basically loved it.
My 2011 has air suspension and it hasn't failed in any way at 158k miles and my truck is 15 years old in a few months and has been on every terrain but a desert, multiple times.
Looks really cool.
Love it when you're in TN for filming! I was out at Leiper's Fork riding this past weekend but went left back on to the Trace instead of continuing straight as you did in the road test portion. Hope you had a good time down here.
Love it. Always like the Armada but to have an of road one really tops it off. Hope it helps nissan.
Base models are best for Nissan Armada off-road
A Nissan with air ride. I cant foresee any issues with that.
Especially after 60k miles.....
@@rudestboyemjust in time for the first owners to buy the next one? 😅
Does anyone make an air ride that lasts longer than 5-7 years?
@@TheD189379 yeah I've heard X5 owners say their air suspension is supposed to be a 10 year setup
@@TheD189379Lexus GX
I hope Nissan can survive. With products like this, hopefully it gets more exposure in the market. Nissan can make some good vehicles if given a chance.
Post merger, I look forward to this SUV getting a better stereo and being rebadged as "Acura Fit CrossTour TrailSport Elite by Infinity"
really interested if it holds up on the lift!
Compared to 10spd ecoboost expedition.. how does this compare? Feels like tahoe is more of direct competitor with its air sus..but huge v8..
Honestly this should do much better and last much longer. Nissan's truck have been stout and reliable for the past 20 years.
I'm torn between this and the new Tahoe. Advise?
These are actually great , I’d love one.
I’m going to try my best to get this 🚙
Don’t be sad if the Nissan Armada is too expensive. the Hyundai Palisade and Kia Telluride can make a big statement too
I was one of the first 50 subscribers to this Channel and my life has never been the same since. I am down to the ground in pain with Mark.
I was one of the first 49 subscribers to this Channel and my life has never been the same since. I am down to the ground in pain with Mark.
Lol creep
@brianbrianbrianbrianbrianbrian I was one of the first 48 subscribers back when Mark still had hair and I am still down to the ground in pain with him.
The New 2025 Nissan Armada out classes the New Land Cruiser From Toyota to me.
The Large Luxury Real Off Road Option is the 2025 Nissan made in Japan. 😎🇺🇸🇮🇱👍
Would like to hear your opinion about the underside of the car and the mechanical parts
Nissan killed it with this new redesign
Only 5 min in and I can solemnly say from the frontier reception to marks review here. We are trying to give Nissan the best light of what it is. And you can see plainly from the interior. They are trying here.
Will it be enough to help turn Nissan around? I don't know. But if the hardware is up to the same par as the frontier (or better) this will be a solid rig to actually buy and use for ten years.
Nissan usa if you are reading this. Please give us the xterra based on the shortened frontier chassis. I think that's gonna be a real 4runner competitor and get Nissan back into the minds of the American buyer
This is the kind of car that my husband's girlfriend drives
😂😂😂😂😂
How odd. My wife's boyfriend drives one too.
Not you complaining about this joke a few videos ago lol
Seats fold to a bed ?
Your taking the high road aren’t you
this could be the home run they needed to stay in relevant in NA
Very cool seeing you drive around where I grew up. I know every road you're on. Very brave doing the acceleration run right by the park ranger station. :)
I wanna know how you made the "eating grass" sound effect for the intro.
This thing is nice. I wish they’d put out a smaller two row body on frame SUV with the 3.8 from the frontier though
In middle east you can get this big boy with a new 3.8
My Neighbors really enjoyed the size of this one when I rented one. It really made an impression on them.
Keep being awesome
Vs. the “it rides so badly it gives me a migraine” rattly old nasty pickup Sequoia, as you described before, these are great to drive.
Good timing to do a comparison (ala your recent 3 row crossovers one) but Armada vs Wagoneer vs. Expedition vs. Tahoe vs. Sequoia, especially since all are newly updated except for the archaic Sequoia & recent fresh Wag.
wow, did you enjoy your time at Southall? been looking to check that place out.
Nissan is the next Mitsubishi the USA, non-existent
How does it compare to the Sequoia?
IMHO destroys the Sequoia. Especially considering Toyota's spying scandals, poor quality on newer cars and issues with the new turbo engines exploding left and right.
Take a shot every time Mark says “that’s what they’re going for here”
This is a good looking suv!
Nissans kinda at a point of do or die, they have really stepped up their game.
This just shows that you haven't seen Nissan in a while. Their current trucks are all top notch.
You know NIssan is trying when SG gets a press car at the same time the others do
I like it. I would rather have this than a Sequoia. I think they did a much better job with the interior.
Definitely, and the engine comes from a derivative of the GTR & Q60 engine; both of which are very reliable. Unlike Toyota's exploding Turbo motors.
Funny propotions, long beaky front overhang, and giant wheel wells makes it look like the tires/rims are too small. I do think Nissan punched above their weight with the rogue/pathfinder redesigns, but maybe not so much here.
The Nissan interiors have been really stepping up though I have to say.
Idk they have always made great trucks, basically everything that wasn't a FWD CVT vehicle has been pretty great for the past 2 decades.
In all reality, this thing sounds better than the new sequoia and Land Cruiser. Both of which are way different trucks than they used to be.
Is that praise dance music at 7:00? 😂🤣🙌🏽
from that offroad footage you can see it has very limited suspension travel. It has become 90%city large SUV compared to the previous gen which in Australia, loads of people use it as offroad camping vehicle