Being a Fearnot was perfect for Anti-fragile. It may have been the only period so far where lsfm didn’t have any big criticisms regarding vocals unlike Unforgiven and Easy. It was the safe period for Eunchae because although she was wearing short outfits, it wasn’t uncomfortable like Smart was. She seemed like a normal teenager having fun while being comfortable. That was the last era where I feel she was safe tbh
Im not a Fearnot, but to say I wasn’t there during Fearless would be a lie. Fearless had… a lot going on as far as a debut. One of their best albums sonically and visually out of their whole lineup. However, the MV had “that” floor move during the bridge which was in high contention due to two underage members. Neither of them were shown during close-ups but it was still controversial. Of course the Garam scandal happened, hope the “victim” gets their karma in the future and Garam has a successful acting career after she finishes school. Finally, there was the live vocal controversy in which some stages had no back track, due to the range Fearless was in it wasn’t pretty. It was real, yeah, but not the best look. Antifragile was their best, no if’s and’s or but’s about it. A strong start with the documentary showing a lot of the background noise (although they did re-record some moments due to Garam’s scandal which I personally find a bit disingenuous but it’s the Idol industry what am I gonna do about it 🤷♂️) Followed up by one of the best title tracks of 2022. -And not going to lie, if Easy era hatred existed during Antifragile, people’d say Yunjin’s car accident was faked for press or smth.- Oh Unforgiven, I liked you as an idea. My graphic designer roots really wished you weren’t dookie stained. Eve, Psyche, Bluebeard’s Wife, Demi Lovato, Rina Sawayama, that one member from XG, Hatsune Miku, and the Samsung Smart Fridge was certainly a point where they were shoving smoke and ashes into an audacity file. And of course encore stages!! (They did improve after the first one so I definitely believe it was nerves for the first couple.) But that full album, now I can’t enjoy shuffle on Spotify without getting Jumpscared by 2023 versions. Perfect Night was honestly very chill, Outside of some outfits Eunchae wore, I don’t remember a lot of controversy. I remember even seeing a performance where their vocals were praised (I think it was Billboard Museum? Idk) Oh Easy, I’m so scared for the next comeback because the reception for the second documentary is not doing so hot. Antifragile had its phoenix from the ashes moment partly because of the documentary, and seeing how people are reacting to the trailers… it’s gonna be certainly Crazy.
@@fimbulvetr6129 I have hope for the future, but like you said, the disdain that people are already showing for clips of the new documentary does not make me overwhelmingly hopeful 😭
oh my god i forgot about the fearless vocals thing!!! it was honestly so insane to make them sing the chorus live 😭 being so fr they should have lip synced that part. it’s like impossible to do when the deep voice is already a little forced just standing in a studio, i remember a lot of people being like “they can’t sing” but it was a lot better since it was literally their debut stages and people had a lot more grace (oh also! if you use spotify you can block it from playing certain songs or artists. i have the 2023 versions blocked so they’ll never play on all songs playlists, along with loona so the app doesn’t autoplay their actual songs on my daylist and stuff when i only use the twelvem versions haha)
@@yoongiverse. … God bless you for telling me about blocking songs. The number of times I’ve been hyped to hear Fearless and getting Jumpscared by Yunjin or Blue Flame and getting Jumpscared by Eunchae are numerous 😭
The way that we went from Perfect Night era and the song being relatively loved and LSF being somewhat respected to the Easy era where so much went downhill so fast like how did they go from being one of the most loved kpop groups to most hated it’s actually insane how 3 weeks passed and so much happened it felt like watching an empire crumble before my eyes it was crazy (im being a lil dramatic but…)
No, you’re so right! I remember before Easy and even before Perfect Night, they were probably the most loved girl group. There was still criticisms with them but it was tame compared to the insane level of hate/criticisms when that Sakura Easy encore went viral and definitely compared to Coachella.
It did feel like an empire crumbling, every few shorts i saw during and weeks after that time, were about lsf and all almost all were negative about them, i still see some sometimes even if i skip all of em
I hate to say it, but this whole hate train really skewed my view of them. Now whenever I think of Le sserafim all I can think of is the endless slander and hate that they endured and it feels like the bad vocals controversy is now tied to their name. The only valid controversies (sexualisation of minors through choreography) were the ones people tried to defend so bad, yet the actual glaring hate was just called “constructive criticism”. Yeah, commenting under every single post saying how they should quit being idols, calling them names like “Le strainafim” (should’ve been Le slayafim smh) and making videos titled “k-pop idols who I would send to Coachella instead of Le sserafim” is not constructive criticism. It also drowns out actual vocal coaches who know what they’re talking about and can advise the girls how to improve if need be. Being a fearnot is not for the weak.
tbh, same 😭 it’s kind of hard to not think of the vocals, but it also doesn’t give the right to warrant comments about their appearances and straight up saying bad things about them
@@chuuislovechuuislife i know 😭 (someone said when yunjin said “come on shake some ass” that “yunjin herself has no ass to shake” that was so uncalled for 😐
@just.kazuhaa so basically, lesserafim were accused of copying a famous Spanish singer called Rosalia. Fans thought Lesserafim copied her in Antifragile and Unforgiven (I think, I don't really remember either)
I love Le Sserafim so much... I HATE being a fearnot rn. Easy era has changed the way I engage with the kpop community like nothing else. Nothing even comes close. I need this new era to come fast and be so, so peaceful.
Not everything is about gender, also no male idols have messed up on Coachella or a big stage. The male groups that have weak vocals are nugus and nowhere near as famous as Le Sserafim.
@@vixxexo6855that’s just because only one male group(not counting the rose) has even been to coachella and it’s ateez, so they’re not even in the ballpark of messing up 😭
literally… i’ve never seen this happen to a male group other than i guess maybe bts which was a really long time ago by now(and people were pretty bad to 127 during sticker but it didn’t really affect them other than giving them more popularity). but the illit situation is very similar along with many others like itzy and ive, it’s always ggs
Antifragile and perfect night were such fun eras to be in. One, the songs are amazing (Antifragile is still my favorite le sserafim song ever made) and two, it was so calm seeing most people just vibe to the songs considering the eras before the two weren’t the best. I hope this next era after the disaster that was easy is more peaceful and less toxic, because my goodness was it rough 😭 and hopefully there won’t be as much hate thrown towards the members themselves, they don’t deserve that
I think the main 4th gen girl groups from the 2022 eras had varying timelines of struggle. Lesserafim was the one where the struggles was fluctuating every comeback. From “this is the revolution” to “worst group” in a year. IVE and NMIXX I’d say were more steady improvements, with IVE havimg an amazing start and rising to even higher heights while NMIXX were doing a massive recovery from their debut. I’m not too sure about Kep1er and Newjeans but Ik as a fan those two would have a different timeline. Overall… 4th gen girl group fans have very different experiences 🤣
nmixx had CRAZY hate on their debut. like it continued all the way until about dice, and there were still people who didn’t like them then. the only cb with mostly positive reactions they’ve had so far is dash i think. and ive got pretty bad hate around the lip syncing strawberry moon scandal, but they were so popular that it almost didn’t matter because the general consensus was that their music was so good it could just be ignored lol. i remember for kep1er it’s always been very mixed between people who prefer their noisier music and their normal music, so a lot of people who liked wa da da didn’t like up! and vice versa, then i think most people didn’t like we fresh and they kind of fell off the radar 😭 newjeans has been INSANELY popular their whole career so far and haven’t really gotten a ton of hate for anything other than the controversies min heejin intentionally created for attention(cookie, all the things relating to the terrorist group in the eta teaser, etc) and now min heejin AGAIN so lowkey nothing they’ve gotten hate for has anything to do with them. also i’d like to add itzy because their massive hate train was during sneakers and it felt very similar to lsrfm’s 😭 like it WOULD NOT stop. to the point where everyone basically wrote off itzy as a group, and the thing to make it stop was lia going on hiatus. also aespa was hated by a lot of people almost up until spicy. it was really bad during the first three comebacks and it calmed down for girls(illusion really helped), spicy was good, and then drama and armageddon have obviously been incredibly crazy successful. i’m so sorry about the essay i just wrote but my general point is yeah i agree, every main 4th gen gg has had an era where they were really hated so far and eventually turned out okay although i think this has been by far the worst
holy crap i wrote SO much 😭😭😭 i didn’t think it was THAT much but tl:dr for whoever doesn’t want to read that: nmixx, ive, kep1er, newjeans(sorta but not really and every controversy they’ve had has been min heejin’s fault), itzy, and aespa have all had huge hate trains at some point or another
It feels like ur severely underplaying everything that happened to garam ( and le sserafim sorta ) in the fearless era, garam was getting literal death threats every day, people were hating on her constantly, destroying her photocards, saying that they will boycott / anti le sserafim until she gets removed, it was the worst hate train i have ever seen in my 5 years of being a kpop fan , it wasnt just the removal of a member that occured, it was a 16 year old girls idol career that got ruined by baseless accusations of bullying that kpop fans took and RAN with it in order to hate on her and have a "valid reason" for it its also the garam people for me lol..... idk it feels passive aggressive 😭im probably the only one who thinks like that tho but i had to say it. either how the "garam people" are not the only people who should care about what happened to her, everyone should care and be astonished on how yall could let something like this happen to a innocent girl
@@abc_jv_xyz oh you can always trust fearnots to be the n1 haters on garam.. not saying the creator is at all but in general the fandom has never been on her side, i was there when the scandal first started and when i say fearnots were the majority of people demanding she gets kicked out of the group i mean it 😭
finally i found a safe place🥲 the hate towards le sserafim that i've seen on many other platforms lately has been taking a toll on me. and that makes me wonder how far worse the girls are feeling if even me who is not a dedicated fan is feeling this bad.
literally like i’m genuinely always so exhausted and angry after reading comments about them and i really don’t let internet comments get to me at all 😭 if i’m that upset how upset must THEY be
Heavy emphasis on musically. The entire album was very diverse and every song was great in it's own way, each member was singing in their comfortable range, the choreos were good and didn't have any inappropriate move unlike most of their choreos now... I want them to go back to that
@@salembejaoui1880musically? Maybe as far as title Track goes yeah, but entire album wise? If we're talking about their most musically diverse album and every song being great in its own way then it's Unforgiven and it's not even close. Especially if we're also talking conceptually and lyrically. Unforgiven is their most diverse album I don't even think that's an opinion it's a fact. Burn the Bridge was an AMAZING intro, Unforgiven was Rock-Western, No-Return was 90s Pop, Eve Psyche and the Bluebeards Wife was vogueing club, FEARNOT was a ballad, Flash Forward was cutesy pop with a hint of playful hip Hop and Fire in the Belly was Reggaeton and sounded like it could've easily been the World Cup anthem
the way u explained fearless era is def an understatement because it was fucking horrific what garam had to endure,, death threats, r threats, every threat under the sun, and having her departure celebrated with people cheering that they ruined a sixteen year olds life def isn’t just “they lost a member, i don’t really remember anything too gross” because it was a sixteen year old and the treatment she endured being turned into everyone’s entertainment
@@abc_jv_xyz as a fearnot,, i’ve honestly noticed the actual fanbase be the most dismissive and disrespectful towards garam who whether people like it or not,, was a member and did in fact get some of the worst treatment a kpop idol has gone through ever. i really do hate how people didn’t apologize for what they said and put her through, and fearnots are no exception sadly despite doing the most :/
tbh i didn’t even remember how bad it was until i read this comment. i remember just wishing everyone would stop harassing her and being so worried she’d be kicked out and how happy everyone was when she left. it was absolutely disgusting what everyone did to a 16 year old and i think of her sometimes and just get so sad
@@FrostyPlayzYTthis! so many fearnots say “they’re 5 now garam was only there for 2 weeks stop mentioning her”(usually on posts about the debut album, i do think it’s weird when they bring her up on recent stuff) like no??? no thanks. i don’t ever want anyone to forget what they did to her. she was still in the group, she was still important, no matter how short lived it was
It makes sense that the current fanbase would feel like that about Garam though. Everyone who couldn't handle the injustice would be reduced to casual fans and people joining afterward would likely not care much unless they themselves bothered to look into what happened.
I do believe some people had valid criticisms of Le Sserafim, but that easily got overshadowed by kpop fans, being kpop fans, mindlessly hating on them and taking things WAY too far. 😭 hope the best for the girls in the future
I've seen some of the clips of them struggling and it just hurts me so much. I don't understand how anyone could have that much hate in their hearts to do what they're done to them.
Omg hahahahaah this is the most perfect idea 😆😆😆 I honestly feel so bad every time any group gets insanely dragged for things that could've been civil :(
I wanna go back to the time before Easy dropped lol, like I still like LSF but with the number of scandals, controversies, and people dogpiling on them, I felt like I needed a break and I'm not even part of the group ! All I do is listen to their music, I don't engage with anything about LSF online. 😭
midzy 🤝 fearnots 🤝nswer having to FIGHT for your LIVES on social media because people seemingly have a hate boner for itzy/nmixx/le sserafim. like i've given my fair share of lsf critiques but i still am gonna stream lsf songs cuz lsf do be eating downnnn, but like, the haters be putting in 40 hour work weeks to shit on these groups 😭 i was lucky that i discovered le sserafim during the antifragile era, and then streamed that song like 800 times, then left, did a little epatbw enjoying, left, returned for perfect night's fun, and then left and returned again for smart (i dont really like easy, its not a bad song but its just not what id listen to) idk i be working smarter baby smarter rather than hard lol. also on a side note hoping that ILLIT doesn't fall into the same "eternal drama" loop LSF is in
the fact that they went from being loved to being one of the most 4th generation hated group it's SO INSANE. i've been a fan of sakura and chaewon since iz*one, and i've entered le sserafim fandom since their pre-debut, and i can say the hate train is SO SO SO FORCED, they really make effort to hate on these girls, the hate comments were SO HARSH, and they did that while there was a teenager in the group, and a lot of people forget that idols are human beings with emotions behind them too. And besides that, the haters ALWAYS confuse constructive criticism with cyberbullying that affected and still affects the group members, as shown in the documentary. But the lowest point for me was when the documentary was aired and haters started saying that they cried and expressed EMOTIONS for everyone to feel pity for them, like, are u fr? I honestly miss the antifragile era so much, they were so loved. Despite everything, i love these girls so much and their discography is so good that I have no words, I'm with them forever.
Being a FEARNOT means fearing nothing and omg has it been hard. I started stanning predeubt because of Yunjin and her story, and then having the whole Garam thing blow up was awful. Antifragile was great, but as a Hispanic FEARNOT, defending the girls from the Rosalia comparisons was crazy (the track was also produced by a Honduran woman, so people were just hating at some point). Unforgiven hate started even before the track was announced, with people criticizing the Nile Rogers collab (apparently people can't use google to find one of the most decorated producers in recent times). EPBW was it's own nightmare😅. Honestly, Perfect Night is my most peaceful era because it had such good praise from gamers to kpop fans. The Easy hate train was really just all of the antis bubbling to the surface, HYBE is just probably destined not to have a perfect girl group lol.
im gonna do ANYTHING i mean ANYTHING for these girls to have a peaceful comeback on the august cb. they deserve it so much, they have been gone through so much
I've been a fearnot since predebut and it's been rough. They are still one of my favorite girl groups and I don't think that will be changing, but there are many times I wish I could collect all the fans and LeSserafim and put us in a bubble to protect us from everyone.
I get why people in more religious societies would be shocked by filming in a church, but I feel pretty strongly that the American artistic culture of remixing its Christian imagery is good and should be defended in the way that being accepting of LGBTQ+ people is another "Western" value that should not be compromised for the sake of more global appeal.
Its still playing with a religion. The nuns worshpping them and changing the cross to be their logo? Wearing that crown thing that were worn by their most important figure's time of horrid? I am muslim by how can you defend ANY of this. Just in the name of art? Seriously?
@@bopete3204 thats bcuz Christianity is so big and parted(orthodox, protestant, catholic and more???) With no internet to give backlash back then, have made people be more comfortable with disrespecting it, like you & those people in the Olympics rn. You disrespect any other religion like this, try to be safe. It still doesn't change that its disrespectful. Seriously, making nuns worshipping them and changing the cross? Like cmon.
I wish they never had a hate train but if they had to I wish it would have been during the debut so I wouldn't be laughing one day and then the whole entire hating on a group because its "popular"
I hated Unforgiven the first month I heard it, but it's lowkey aged like wine. I can only listen to it a few times a day/week, but I love shouting the lyrics lol
as someone who used to be a blink around 2016-2020 i thought i’d be prepared for any kind of hate train but damn, as a fearnot since lsfm debut i literally need to prepare myself mentally and physically before going to war (twitter and tiktok)
Honestly Christian’s getting mad and shocked makes no sense watch they’re first few music videos they’re fallen angles another just any serafim angles y’all didn’t see that coming??? And also the song eve psyche and the blue beards wife has the lyrics” I wish for what’s forbidden” like girl they’re in support of eve y’all just plain dumb for not expecting it 1:39
I’m not a fearnot so I don’t know how valid my opinions are but Le Sserafim 100% do not deserve the hate trains they’ve gotten. I’m so tired seeing kpop Stans dragging Le Sserafim online for everything they do. Any valid criticisms about vocals have been drowned out by the same hateful talking points. It’s utterly disgusting what they’ve gone through. I also despise the fact that every year kpop Stans pick a girl group to be their punching bag. It’s not right. At the end of the day it’s just music. If you don’t like a song or a performance, just move on. It doesn’t hurt you. You’re not directly involved. I’m hoping that Le Sserafim’s next comeback wins them goodwill. Lord knows that they need a break. Sending all you fearnots in the trenches rn love and vibes. You’ll get through it, I believe in you
0:27 can we talk about how creepy that intro is ? 😭 I have been a fearnot since Antifragile era and absolutely loved the unforgiven album I actually have 3 LSRFM albums (Antifragile,Unforgiven and Easy) But honestly the whole EASY era was something else I’m Catholic , and honestly the EASY mv did trigger me a bit , but I didn’t think much of it it’s not like the girls decided to film there :( As well as the inappropriate dancing for Smart did annoy me alot knowing Eunchae is still a minor And the hate train is honestly just cyber bullying at this point , I love my LSRFM girlies and would defend them foreverr , but I want HYBE to start caring more about vocals and stability rather than dance :( I honestly hope that the girls are doing better these days 💗💗
i don't consider myself a fearnot but le sserafim has such a special place on my heart, nothings could made me hate this girls, they have my respect 🙏 ive been an army since 2013 and I've seen and lived trough many hate trains but le sserafim one, is so different ive never seen so many people being so openly vile and seeing people encourage the behavior too, Fearnots please stay strong, im sure flowers will bloom in this treacherous path 💜💜💜
honestly after fighting and defending them the whole easy era i can’t wait for this era to end. i know the crazy era won’t be much better but all i can do is hope for the best.
I am a fearnot since le sserafim first year-end performances, then I was amazed by how much their songs (i.e. antifragile) match the story/situation, now I am just scared... I honestly don't want anything crazy to show up during next comeback.
lmao ofc I became a fearnot two weeks after easy released. It’s gonna be so nice to have a peaceful era one day because I don’t know what it feels like 😭
Honestly, Lesserafim's has jinxed in their debut to their comeback from worst to mild... Like how Easy Era become the most Hardest Era... Unforgiven Era making them being unforgiving for certain things... Fearless Era playing with our anxiety due to Garam Scandal... Antifragile Era has few things happened but notas worst as others... I thought their situation really play well with their group name... Despite they got a lot of love from oldest and newest fan... They also gaining haters and reasons for people to throw their hatreds to Fimmies. I do hope they can continue their best in enduring of what had happened and wouldn't have to continually being targeted for hatred from netizen... Let's pray that their next project and comeback wouldn't give anymore negative response from others...
Perfect night was LSF's experiment to step in USA. Easy is when LSF take first step into more English speaking International fans who loves HipHop. R&B and even Trap and make them into new fearnots. One unique thing about LSF also is their B-side tracks. Fearnots learned that LSF use their B-side for communicate with their fans and say what they want to say. And I think that is amazing. The Smart. I have know idea what that came from but that was most crazy idea that they decided to make it into their own sound. And I love it. About haters. Let's be real. For example. I don't think hater really want Sakura to improve her vocal skill. Why? Because they will loose their ground to attack LSF in total.
I would say...90% of the hate train LS experienced was an organized attack on their popularity. I won't mention any other names because I'm not an instigator. They recognized an opportunity in a minor problem and threw gas on it out of jealousy and selfishness.
also actually easy was pretty good at the beginning now that i’m thinking about it. people liked the song and the choreo, people loved smart, it basically only started going downhill after the church thing
I have been around since debut Ive never called myself a fearnot as I've liked their music but never really was more than a casual listener. I was just starting to pick a bias and then she got removed and members getting wrongfully removed just has always been hard for me. I am not able to become a true fan after that usually I stop liking the group but Le Sserafim was the first group where that wasn't the case. I have to say I am interested to see where we go from here. I think the Easy era ruined Le Sserafim for me honestly ( I will still try and give them a shot and tune in one more time). The main thing was just smarter going viral and Eunchae being exploited I don't think I can continue to tune in. That and I just feel a lot of disappointment not only with the kpop community as a whole but how HYBE has handled the situation and the statements that have been made about it. I really do feel bad for the girls. I wish they would go on like a break for a month and take a nice vacation together and get offline and unwind
You’re definitely looking at Fearless with rose colored lens. The harassment Garam went through I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy. At only 16 years old, she had her dreams crushed over baseless rumors and was bullied into hiding. No child should have to endure death threats and accusations of being a sex worker. The fact that Hybe couldn’t even defend her because of people accusing her of being a whore and sleeping with executives to debut.
I’m not a FEARNOT but I do follow the group here and there, and I wish that they would be passed this excruciating hate soon tbh at the end of the day everything is ephemeral so the hate bandwagon will soon to be gone hopefully but I know it’s going to scar the members emotionally for a very long time and it would make them truly “FEARLESS” afterwards haha.
Im so tired of one (usually girl group) being essentially sacrificed at the altar for the most minor of disgressions like being cringe to like the worse thing they did is sing on stage badly Yeah its their job and they should put effort in bla bla but like No one is forcing you to support a group who in your opinion doesn't "deserve" the attention they have garnered
it was so hard being a fearnot during easy era, it was DIFFICULT 😭😭😭 and i agree, antifragile era is definitely the most peaceful era le sserafim has ever had. 😭😭 give these girls a break
If you have time can you do a lsf Besides rankings i feel like there are a lot of videos that talks about lsf's hate train but a video a appreciating their music would be cool in times like these, they have amazing bsides, also great video idea 👍
im not a fearnot tho i was there to witness their debut and was excited bc the teasers for fearless got me hooked . i agree antifragile era was a peaceful time and its their best tt for me to this day. also i heard somewhere that antifragile was recorded even before garam left (pls dont attack me if im wrong abt this)😭 im gonna be honest but easy, unforgiven, and perfect night were not rlly my cup of tea but at least there are some people, including me, who dont go out of their way to hate on lsf and just go abt their day minding their own business and respect other ppls music tastes (i respect the people who love these songs, im not hating on them btw). the only time i witnessed hate during unforgiven era was because of their encores and that terrible album cover design but easy and fearless era was rlly full of controversies and the latter is making me have war flashbacks, specifically how the kpop community treated garam and then celebrated when she was out of the group only to find out she was defending her friend. also the hate train is getting out of hand like i already feel bad for lsf and it shows the worst monsters coming out of kpop stans when it comes to them😢 like atp majority of kpop stans are not even giving "constructive criticism" but are rather bullying them 💀 i didnt watch the documentary but ik that twt stans are gonna go full hate mode on them and continue their hating agenda esp invalidating and mocking the members feelings like these ppl and the internet really lack empathy when it comes to lsf (esp when it comes to their vocals but if its a male idol some would defend them with their lives💀) like that app is so toxic that i stopped using it years ago (and probably tiktok stans tho i never had tt but i always hear from fans that tt is just as toxic as twt and reddit also)💀like kpop stans are comfortable in bullying and being cruel to idols behind anonymity (but these same people wouldnt act like this irl and would be feeling regret if they ruined that person) but keep preaching that kpop idols are human and might affect their mental health but switch up when its lsf, like the hypocrisy is showing (like the cycle is never gonna end)💀 also i've seen some screenshotted tweets on instagram mocking sakura's feelings abt her vocals and something abt how she's afraid to sing on stage but these ppl keep hating and mocking her and saying "its her job" like it takes years to excel at one thing and to improve like i get the criticism on vocals but the prolonged hate for it is making it worse and they are trying to improve and are working on it like fans wanted. for me growth/progress is not linear and there's always gonna be challenges/ setbacks and it feels like kpop stans wanted her to improve quickly like they were rushing her (like in 1-2 years). even naturally-born singers i personally i knew still have to train and practice their voice for years in order for them to be great singers😐i think they are probably emotionally scarred bc of this. the lsf hate train is one of the worst hate trains i've seen and makes me hate being a kpop stan even more (like i wanna get out of kpop again like i did years before but its so hard for me to get out of this hole again like i miss my kpop-free year/s again like how do i do it pls help😭 ) im scared for their next comeback bc im afraid the hate against them might increase esp cuz of the documentary (like what others said, its probably gonna be crazy for them). i hope the girls can overcome this difficult time (ngl they need to stay out of social media for a while) and hope the hate train will end 😥 sorry for the long rant but just wanted to rant what im feeling based on the events i've seen happening around them, im sorry if some of these dont make sense and also pls dont attack 😭
i started being a fan of lsfm from overwatch and just only recently fully perused enjoying and discovering their music and for it to be during this time period where it feels all they receive is hate at this point, it really does suck because i really do think these girls are talented i just believe their management team are making them sing and perform things they do not excel in either/or they have not gotten the proper training to actually excel in what they are performing. and to see how lovely and funny these girls are when they’re not focused on music like with Leniverse for example, they do not deserve this hate under any circumstances. if anything all this hate makes me love these girls more because of how delusional and irrational the hate really is. i’m proud to call myself a fearnot.
every era but antifragile and i guess perfect night has lowkey been hell 😭 easy made me want to throw myself off a building and never go on the internet again
I pray that le sserafim move away from the religous blasphemy concept for their upcomming cb... bcs i really miss them :( but as a christian i just cannot support a group who uses gloryfing rebellion against the christian god as a metaphor for their edgy society rebellion concept. They used to be one of my favorite groups, i really hope source music changes the concept direction a little. Theres nothing wrong w rebellion... but why use religious metaphors like that... like why... you dont need to pose with a crown of thorns on your head, you really dont.
What I’m so confused with is the constant lsf antis I see in EVERY lsf video.At least with the itzy hate train, most itzy haters wouldn’t actively seek out itzy performances,Sofia media, variety content & music just to belittle them. If you believe lesserafim is so overrated & so problematic why not boycott them?? Watching their documentary… ATP you have to recognise there is an obsession.
The way we really being tested what it means to be Antifragile and fearnot 😭😭 I thought being a BLACKPINK stan was hard but holy moly do some people just hate that much in life. I seen so much lsrf hate online so much that although I’m not the members, I still had to cut off a lot of K-pop pages just for the sake of peace of mind. Now I just want them to LEAVE THE GIRLS ALONE
I personally think it was unforgiven and perfect night like coz antifragile was not peaceful the whole rosaria scandal and it was literally their first comeback it was a lil messy 🤏
as a fearnot since debut, I have never defended any of my favs like I defended the fimmies during easy. Obviously it's not my place to defend them over the church situation so I didn't but other than that I sweated daily trying to defend them.
God these poor girls, and poor fans 😭 it seems like people would get mad at them for breathing. I really really hope things get better for them, and people magically become normal. Side note, this is both a sad and funny concept for a video lmao
I mean they are to big to be ever given an cill time again i think But as an fearnot i fear that some of us will get very very very protective know😅 Did u see there doku tho (that will make them protective as well i think)
Being a Fearnot was perfect for Anti-fragile. It may have been the only period so far where lsfm didn’t have any big criticisms regarding vocals unlike Unforgiven and Easy. It was the safe period for Eunchae because although she was wearing short outfits, it wasn’t uncomfortable like Smart was. She seemed like a normal teenager having fun while being comfortable. That was the last era where I feel she was safe tbh
Im not a Fearnot, but to say I wasn’t there during Fearless would be a lie.
Fearless had… a lot going on as far as a debut. One of their best albums sonically and visually out of their whole lineup. However, the MV had “that” floor move during the bridge which was in high contention due to two underage members. Neither of them were shown during close-ups but it was still controversial.
Of course the Garam scandal happened, hope the “victim” gets their karma in the future and Garam has a successful acting career after she finishes school.
Finally, there was the live vocal controversy in which some stages had no back track, due to the range Fearless was in it wasn’t pretty. It was real, yeah, but not the best look.
Antifragile was their best, no if’s and’s or but’s about it. A strong start with the documentary showing a lot of the background noise (although they did re-record some moments due to Garam’s scandal which I personally find a bit disingenuous but it’s the Idol industry what am I gonna do about it 🤷♂️)
Followed up by one of the best title tracks of 2022. -And not going to lie, if Easy era hatred existed during Antifragile, people’d say Yunjin’s car accident was faked for press or smth.-
Oh Unforgiven, I liked you as an idea. My graphic designer roots really wished you weren’t dookie stained. Eve, Psyche, Bluebeard’s Wife, Demi Lovato, Rina Sawayama, that one member from XG, Hatsune Miku, and the Samsung Smart Fridge was certainly a point where they were shoving smoke and ashes into an audacity file. And of course encore stages!! (They did improve after the first one so I definitely believe it was nerves for the first couple.) But that full album, now I can’t enjoy shuffle on Spotify without getting Jumpscared by 2023 versions.
Perfect Night was honestly very chill, Outside of some outfits Eunchae wore, I don’t remember a lot of controversy. I remember even seeing a performance where their vocals were praised (I think it was Billboard Museum? Idk)
Oh Easy, I’m so scared for the next comeback because the reception for the second documentary is not doing so hot. Antifragile had its phoenix from the ashes moment partly because of the documentary, and seeing how people are reacting to the trailers… it’s gonna be certainly Crazy.
@@fimbulvetr6129 I have hope for the future, but like you said, the disdain that people are already showing for clips of the new documentary does not make me overwhelmingly hopeful 😭
@@choujimi yeah, I’m just gonna do what I do best, and stay off Twitter when the album releases ;~;
oh my god i forgot about the fearless vocals thing!!! it was honestly so insane to make them sing the chorus live 😭 being so fr they should have lip synced that part. it’s like impossible to do when the deep voice is already a little forced just standing in a studio, i remember a lot of people being like “they can’t sing” but it was a lot better since it was literally their debut stages and people had a lot more grace
(oh also! if you use spotify you can block it from playing certain songs or artists. i have the 2023 versions blocked so they’ll never play on all songs playlists, along with loona so the app doesn’t autoplay their actual songs on my daylist and stuff when i only use the twelvem versions haha)
@@yoongiverse. … God bless you for telling me about blocking songs.
The number of times I’ve been hyped to hear Fearless and getting Jumpscared by Yunjin or Blue Flame and getting Jumpscared by Eunchae are numerous 😭
@@fimbulvetr6129 LITERALLY 😭😭😭 whenever i’m excited for fearless to start and i hear yunjin i’m just like NOOO
The way that we went from Perfect Night era and the song being relatively loved and LSF being somewhat respected to the Easy era where so much went downhill so fast like how did they go from being one of the most loved kpop groups to most hated it’s actually insane how 3 weeks passed and so much happened it felt like watching an empire crumble before my eyes it was crazy (im being a lil dramatic but…)
No, you’re so right! I remember before Easy and even before Perfect Night, they were probably the most loved girl group. There was still criticisms with them but it was tame compared to the insane level of hate/criticisms when that Sakura Easy encore went viral and definitely compared to Coachella.
It did feel like an empire crumbling, every few shorts i saw during and weeks after that time, were about lsf and all almost all were negative about them, i still see some sometimes even if i skip all of em
it literally gave me war flashbacks to itzy sneakers era 😭😭
I mean they did it to themselves🤷♀️
I remember Yunjin became trending in Philippines with her NBA shirt, I think it's their perfect night era
I hate to say it, but this whole hate train really skewed my view of them. Now whenever I think of Le sserafim all I can think of is the endless slander and hate that they endured and it feels like the bad vocals controversy is now tied to their name. The only valid controversies (sexualisation of minors through choreography) were the ones people tried to defend so bad, yet the actual glaring hate was just called “constructive criticism”. Yeah, commenting under every single post saying how they should quit being idols, calling them names like “Le strainafim” (should’ve been Le slayafim smh) and making videos titled “k-pop idols who I would send to Coachella instead of Le sserafim” is not constructive criticism. It also drowns out actual vocal coaches who know what they’re talking about and can advise the girls how to improve if need be. Being a fearnot is not for the weak.
tbh, same 😭 it’s kind of hard to not think of the vocals, but it also doesn’t give the right to warrant comments about their appearances and straight up saying bad things about them
true, but we stay firm. Many turned their backs but not the true fearnots. Fearnots should live up to their fandom name
@@tsh9584 yes! good music, funny members, a few bad live moments when there are plenty of good ones isn’t going to make me unstan one of my ults
@@love.hw4ng apparently there were death threats as well. I didn’t see any, but I’ve heard about them
@@chuuislovechuuislife i know 😭 (someone said when yunjin said “come on shake some ass” that “yunjin herself has no ass to shake” that was so uncalled for 😐
Yeah....we all knew Antifragile was at the top
@@Chuu_Vault I miss the antifragile days so much
@@choujimiback when lovey lovey lovey dovey dovey dovey was associated with le sserafim and not “bad Coachella vocals” or whatever
@@choujimi BRING US BACK
@@choujimihoping we will bring that back on the august cb 🙏🙏
Antifragile really showed their fearless girl crush concept the best.
The horrors of the Easy Era making us forget the Antifragile Rosalia scandal is actually crazy
I did forget about that honestly 😭 the easy era has just been too much
these people really putting the FEAR in Fearnot 💀
THE WHAT???? Girl how is there a ROSALIA scandal 😭these girls will never know peace
@@auliamateidek what a rosalia scandal is 😭🙏
@just.kazuhaa so basically, lesserafim were accused of copying a famous Spanish singer called Rosalia. Fans thought Lesserafim copied her in Antifragile and Unforgiven (I think, I don't really remember either)
I love Le Sserafim so much... I HATE being a fearnot rn. Easy era has changed the way I engage with the kpop community like nothing else. Nothing even comes close. I need this new era to come fast and be so, so peaceful.
We will persevere through! 😭 I have hope
There hasn't been a single male group that has gotten as much hate as lesserafim. Why are kpop fans so harsh on female idols?
i've been saying this...
Not everything is about gender, also no male idols have messed up on Coachella or a big stage. The male groups that have weak vocals are nugus and nowhere near as famous as Le Sserafim.
@@vixxexo6855 those "nugus" sell more albums than ggs.
@@vixxexo6855that’s just because only one male group(not counting the rose) has even been to coachella and it’s ateez, so they’re not even in the ballpark of messing up 😭
literally… i’ve never seen this happen to a male group other than i guess maybe bts which was a really long time ago by now(and people were pretty bad to 127 during sticker but it didn’t really affect them other than giving them more popularity). but the illit situation is very similar along with many others like itzy and ive, it’s always ggs
IM CRYING THE IDEA 😭😭😭 creativeness on an another level
Antifragile and perfect night were such fun eras to be in. One, the songs are amazing (Antifragile is still my favorite le sserafim song ever made) and two, it was so calm seeing most people just vibe to the songs considering the eras before the two weren’t the best. I hope this next era after the disaster that was easy is more peaceful and less toxic, because my goodness was it rough 😭 and hopefully there won’t be as much hate thrown towards the members themselves, they don’t deserve that
"Easy"-era FEARNOTing has been... an experience 😂
I think the main 4th gen girl groups from the 2022 eras had varying timelines of struggle.
Lesserafim was the one where the struggles was fluctuating every comeback. From “this is the revolution” to “worst group” in a year.
IVE and NMIXX I’d say were more steady improvements, with IVE havimg an amazing start and rising to even higher heights while NMIXX were doing a massive recovery from their debut.
I’m not too sure about Kep1er and Newjeans but Ik as a fan those two would have a different timeline.
Overall… 4th gen girl group fans have very different experiences 🤣
not to mention the ITZY hate train and (G)I-DLE coming back without a member
No but I remember Ive literally being the most hated kpop group in 2022 at one point 😭
Im happy their so loved now
nmixx had CRAZY hate on their debut. like it continued all the way until about dice, and there were still people who didn’t like them then. the only cb with mostly positive reactions they’ve had so far is dash i think. and ive got pretty bad hate around the lip syncing strawberry moon scandal, but they were so popular that it almost didn’t matter because the general consensus was that their music was so good it could just be ignored lol. i remember for kep1er it’s always been very mixed between people who prefer their noisier music and their normal music, so a lot of people who liked wa da da didn’t like up! and vice versa, then i think most people didn’t like we fresh and they kind of fell off the radar 😭 newjeans has been INSANELY popular their whole career so far and haven’t really gotten a ton of hate for anything other than the controversies min heejin intentionally created for attention(cookie, all the things relating to the terrorist group in the eta teaser, etc) and now min heejin AGAIN so lowkey nothing they’ve gotten hate for has anything to do with them. also i’d like to add itzy because their massive hate train was during sneakers and it felt very similar to lsrfm’s 😭 like it WOULD NOT stop. to the point where everyone basically wrote off itzy as a group, and the thing to make it stop was lia going on hiatus. also aespa was hated by a lot of people almost up until spicy. it was really bad during the first three comebacks and it calmed down for girls(illusion really helped), spicy was good, and then drama and armageddon have obviously been incredibly crazy successful. i’m so sorry about the essay i just wrote but my general point is yeah i agree, every main 4th gen gg has had an era where they were really hated so far and eventually turned out okay although i think this has been by far the worst
holy crap i wrote SO much 😭😭😭 i didn’t think it was THAT much but tl:dr for whoever doesn’t want to read that: nmixx, ive, kep1er, newjeans(sorta but not really and every controversy they’ve had has been min heejin’s fault), itzy, and aespa have all had huge hate trains at some point or another
the hate train was honestly so stupid 😭 not a fear not, but I honestly feel bad for the girls
It feels like ur severely underplaying everything that happened to garam ( and le sserafim sorta ) in the fearless era, garam was getting literal death threats every day, people were hating on her constantly, destroying her photocards, saying that they will boycott / anti le sserafim until she gets removed, it was the worst hate train i have ever seen in my 5 years of being a kpop fan , it wasnt just the removal of a member that occured, it was a 16 year old girls idol career that got ruined by baseless accusations of bullying that kpop fans took and RAN with it in order to hate on her and have a "valid reason" for it
its also the garam people for me lol..... idk it feels passive aggressive 😭im probably the only one who thinks like that tho but i had to say it. either how the "garam people" are not the only people who should care about what happened to her, everyone should care and be astonished on how yall could let something like this happen to a innocent girl
@@abc_jv_xyz oh you can always trust fearnots to be the n1 haters on garam.. not saying the creator is at all but in general the fandom has never been on her side, i was there when the scandal first started and when i say fearnots were the majority of people demanding she gets kicked out of the group i mean it 😭
finally i found a safe place🥲 the hate towards le sserafim that i've seen on many other platforms lately has been taking a toll on me. and that makes me wonder how far worse the girls are feeling if even me who is not a dedicated fan is feeling this bad.
literally like i’m genuinely always so exhausted and angry after reading comments about them and i really don’t let internet comments get to me at all 😭 if i’m that upset how upset must THEY be
Antifragile will always be the peak for Lesserafim, musically, socially and overall their best era to date.
Heavy emphasis on musically. The entire album was very diverse and every song was great in it's own way, each member was singing in their comfortable range, the choreos were good and didn't have any inappropriate move unlike most of their choreos now... I want them to go back to that
@@salembejaoui1880musically? Maybe as far as title Track goes yeah, but entire album wise? If we're talking about their most musically diverse album and every song being great in its own way then it's Unforgiven and it's not even close. Especially if we're also talking conceptually and lyrically. Unforgiven is their most diverse album I don't even think that's an opinion it's a fact. Burn the Bridge was an AMAZING intro, Unforgiven was Rock-Western, No-Return was 90s Pop, Eve Psyche and the Bluebeards Wife was vogueing club, FEARNOT was a ballad, Flash Forward was cutesy pop with a hint of playful hip Hop and Fire in the Belly was Reggaeton and sounded like it could've easily been the World Cup anthem
the way u explained fearless era is def an understatement because it was fucking horrific what garam had to endure,, death threats, r threats, every threat under the sun, and having her departure celebrated with people cheering that they ruined a sixteen year olds life def isn’t just “they lost a member, i don’t really remember anything too gross” because it was a sixteen year old and the treatment she endured being turned into everyone’s entertainment
@@abc_jv_xyz as a fearnot,, i’ve honestly noticed the actual fanbase be the most dismissive and disrespectful towards garam who whether people like it or not,, was a member and did in fact get some of the worst treatment a kpop idol has gone through ever. i really do hate how people didn’t apologize for what they said and put her through, and fearnots are no exception sadly despite doing the most :/
tbh i didn’t even remember how bad it was until i read this comment. i remember just wishing everyone would stop harassing her and being so worried she’d be kicked out and how happy everyone was when she left. it was absolutely disgusting what everyone did to a 16 year old and i think of her sometimes and just get so sad
@@FrostyPlayzYTthis! so many fearnots say “they’re 5 now garam was only there for 2 weeks stop mentioning her”(usually on posts about the debut album, i do think it’s weird when they bring her up on recent stuff) like no??? no thanks. i don’t ever want anyone to forget what they did to her. she was still in the group, she was still important, no matter how short lived it was
It makes sense that the current fanbase would feel like that about Garam though. Everyone who couldn't handle the injustice would be reduced to casual fans and people joining afterward would likely not care much unless they themselves bothered to look into what happened.
I do believe some people had valid criticisms of Le Sserafim, but that easily got overshadowed by kpop fans, being kpop fans, mindlessly hating on them and taking things WAY too far. 😭 hope the best for the girls in the future
I've seen some of the clips of them struggling and it just hurts me so much. I don't understand how anyone could have that much hate in their hearts to do what they're done to them.
you forgot to mention the sxzualization of eunchae in almost every era , specially easy.
idk how i’ve survived easy as a fearnot and sneakers as a midzy 😭
You’re the strongest soldier 😭😭😭
Omg hahahahaah this is the most perfect idea 😆😆😆
I honestly feel so bad every time any group gets insanely dragged for things that could've been civil :(
I wanna go back to the time before Easy dropped lol, like I still like LSF but with the number of scandals, controversies, and people dogpiling on them, I felt like I needed a break and I'm not even part of the group ! All I do is listen to their music, I don't engage with anything about LSF online. 😭
midzy 🤝 fearnots 🤝nswer
having to FIGHT for your LIVES on social media because people seemingly have a hate boner for itzy/nmixx/le sserafim. like i've given my fair share of lsf critiques but i still am gonna stream lsf songs cuz lsf do be eating downnnn, but like, the haters be putting in 40 hour work weeks to shit on these groups 😭
i was lucky that i discovered le sserafim during the antifragile era, and then streamed that song like 800 times, then left, did a little epatbw enjoying, left, returned for perfect night's fun, and then left and returned again for smart (i dont really like easy, its not a bad song but its just not what id listen to)
idk i be working smarter baby smarter rather than hard lol. also on a side note hoping that ILLIT doesn't fall into the same "eternal drama" loop LSF is in
the intro 😭
LMAAAOOOOOO I'M CRYING THE CREATIVITY AND THE ACCURACY 😭😭 I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S FUNNY OR REALLY SAD
To think that le sserafim was one of the most loved kpop girl groups during the anttyfragale era, and now they are you know NOT LOVED
The unforgiven era wasn’t too easy too, that one encore
the fact that they went from being loved to being one of the most 4th generation hated group it's SO INSANE. i've been a fan of sakura and chaewon since iz*one, and i've entered le sserafim fandom since their pre-debut, and i can say the hate train is SO SO SO FORCED, they really make effort to hate on these girls, the hate comments were SO HARSH, and they did that while there was a teenager in the group, and a lot of people forget that idols are human beings with emotions behind them too. And besides that, the haters ALWAYS confuse constructive criticism with cyberbullying that affected and still affects the group members, as shown in the documentary. But the lowest point for me was when the documentary was aired and haters started saying that they cried and expressed EMOTIONS for everyone to feel pity for them, like, are u fr? I honestly miss the antifragile era so much, they were so loved. Despite everything, i love these girls so much and their discography is so good that I have no words, I'm with them forever.
CAN YOU PLEASE LMAOOOOOO
Being a FEARNOT means fearing nothing and omg has it been hard. I started stanning predeubt because of Yunjin and her story, and then having the whole Garam thing blow up was awful. Antifragile was great, but as a Hispanic FEARNOT, defending the girls from the Rosalia comparisons was crazy (the track was also produced by a Honduran woman, so people were just hating at some point). Unforgiven hate started even before the track was announced, with people criticizing the Nile Rogers collab (apparently people can't use google to find one of the most decorated producers in recent times). EPBW was it's own nightmare😅. Honestly, Perfect Night is my most peaceful era because it had such good praise from gamers to kpop fans. The Easy hate train was really just all of the antis bubbling to the surface, HYBE is just probably destined not to have a perfect girl group lol.
Choujimi we fawking love yew😭
im gonna do ANYTHING i mean ANYTHING for these girls to have a peaceful comeback on the august cb. they deserve it so much, they have been gone through so much
they way i immediately knew what the order would be is crazy 😂 like u said i hope things go up from here !!
Antifragile 😚
Perfect Night 😌
Unforgiven 🙂
Fearless 🥲
Easy 💀
Take me back to Antifragile era😢
dying at this video concept 😆hopefully the hate train will die down a bit and the girls can enjoy the next era ❤
I think cuz during their anti-fragile they didn’t have any encore
I've been a fearnot since predebut and it's been rough. They are still one of my favorite girl groups and I don't think that will be changing, but there are many times I wish I could collect all the fans and LeSserafim and put us in a bubble to protect us from everyone.
I get why people in more religious societies would be shocked by filming in a church, but I feel pretty strongly that the American artistic culture of remixing its Christian imagery is good and should be defended in the way that being accepting of LGBTQ+ people is another "Western" value that should not be compromised for the sake of more global appeal.
Its still playing with a religion. The nuns worshpping them and changing the cross to be their logo? Wearing that crown thing that were worn by their most important figure's time of horrid?
I am muslim by how can you defend ANY of this. Just in the name of art? Seriously?
@@jangwonive Christianity and Islam are different and I think you should respect that.
@@bopete3204 i think you should respect all religion? Is that controversial now????
@@jangwonive Use of Christian imagery in art is not considered disrectful in the same way that it's considered disrespectful in Islam
@@bopete3204 thats bcuz Christianity is so big and parted(orthodox, protestant, catholic and more???) With no internet to give backlash back then, have made people be more comfortable with disrespecting it, like you & those people in the Olympics rn. You disrespect any other religion like this, try to be safe.
It still doesn't change that its disrespectful. Seriously, making nuns worshipping them and changing the cross? Like cmon.
So creative tbh you lowkey ate
it’s tough out here 😭 easy era was not easy
not me getting into lsfm just before easy dropped 😿😿
the fact that easy was my first era as a fearnot and i was so excited 😭😭
oh you sweet summer child. i hope you enjoy crazy era though it’s gonna be fun if the hate calms down just a little more :)
I wish they never had a hate train but if they had to I wish it would have been during the debut so I wouldn't be laughing one day and then the whole entire hating on a group because its "popular"
This is like insane
I became a fearnot during easy era 😭😭😭😭😭😭😫😫😫
my condolences 😭
I hated Unforgiven the first month I heard it, but it's lowkey aged like wine. I can only listen to it a few times a day/week, but I love shouting the lyrics lol
as someone who used to be a blink around 2016-2020 i thought i’d be prepared for any kind of hate train but damn, as a fearnot since lsfm debut i literally need to prepare myself mentally and physically before going to war (twitter and tiktok)
Honestly Christian’s getting mad and shocked makes no sense watch they’re first few music videos they’re fallen angles another just any serafim angles y’all didn’t see that coming??? And also the song eve psyche and the blue beards wife has the lyrics” I wish for what’s forbidden” like girl they’re in support of eve y’all just plain dumb for not expecting it 1:39
I’m not a fearnot so I don’t know how valid my opinions are but Le Sserafim 100% do not deserve the hate trains they’ve gotten. I’m so tired seeing kpop Stans dragging Le Sserafim online for everything they do. Any valid criticisms about vocals have been drowned out by the same hateful talking points. It’s utterly disgusting what they’ve gone through. I also despise the fact that every year kpop Stans pick a girl group to be their punching bag. It’s not right. At the end of the day it’s just music. If you don’t like a song or a performance, just move on. It doesn’t hurt you. You’re not directly involved. I’m hoping that Le Sserafim’s next comeback wins them goodwill. Lord knows that they need a break. Sending all you fearnots in the trenches rn love and vibes. You’ll get through it, I believe in you
0:27 can we talk about how creepy that intro is ? 😭
I have been a fearnot since Antifragile era and absolutely loved the unforgiven album
I actually have 3 LSRFM albums (Antifragile,Unforgiven and Easy)
But honestly the whole EASY era was something else
I’m Catholic , and honestly the EASY mv did trigger me a bit , but I didn’t think much of it it’s not like the girls decided to film there :( As well as the inappropriate dancing for Smart did annoy me alot knowing Eunchae is still a minor
And the hate train is honestly just cyber bullying at this point , I love my LSRFM girlies and would defend them foreverr , but I want HYBE to start caring more about vocals and stability rather than dance :(
I honestly hope that the girls are doing better these days 💗💗
i don't consider myself a fearnot but le sserafim has such a special place on my heart, nothings could made me hate this girls, they have my respect 🙏 ive been an army since 2013 and I've seen and lived trough many hate trains but le sserafim one, is so different ive never seen so many people being so openly vile and seeing people encourage the behavior too, Fearnots please stay strong, im sure flowers will bloom in this treacherous path 💜💜💜
I feel like the badness of easy era will come back with this new comeback, you've seen how people are reacting to the documentary. 😭
honestly after fighting and defending them the whole easy era i can’t wait for this era to end. i know the crazy era won’t be much better but all i can do is hope for the best.
I am a fearnot since le sserafim first year-end performances, then I was amazed by how much their songs (i.e. antifragile) match the story/situation, now I am just scared... I honestly don't want anything crazy to show up during next comeback.
lmao ofc I became a fearnot two weeks after easy released. It’s gonna be so nice to have a peaceful era one day because I don’t know what it feels like 😭
LMAOOOO BYE
admitting that ur a fearnot in easy era is like coming out to ur homophobic parents
i'm not gonna lie i started stanning them in easy era
trust crazy is gonna be so peaceful and chill (pls pls pls)
Honestly, Lesserafim's has jinxed in their debut to their comeback from worst to mild... Like how Easy Era become the most Hardest Era... Unforgiven Era making them being unforgiving for certain things... Fearless Era playing with our anxiety due to Garam Scandal... Antifragile Era has few things happened but notas worst as others...
I thought their situation really play well with their group name... Despite they got a lot of love from oldest and newest fan... They also gaining haters and reasons for people to throw their hatreds to Fimmies.
I do hope they can continue their best in enduring of what had happened and wouldn't have to continually being targeted for hatred from netizen...
Let's pray that their next project and comeback wouldn't give anymore negative response from others...
Aespa's stans are ruining the enjoyment in kpop
Perfect night was LSF's experiment to step in USA. Easy is when LSF take first step into more English speaking International fans who loves HipHop. R&B and even Trap and make them into new fearnots. One unique thing about LSF also is their B-side tracks. Fearnots learned that LSF use their B-side for communicate with their fans and say what they want to say. And I think that is amazing. The Smart. I have know idea what that came from but that was most crazy idea that they decided to make it into their own sound. And I love it. About haters. Let's be real. For example. I don't think hater really want Sakura to improve her vocal skill. Why? Because they will loose their ground to attack LSF in total.
so real
I would say...90% of the hate train LS experienced was an organized attack on their popularity. I won't mention any other names because I'm not an instigator. They recognized an opportunity in a minor problem and threw gas on it out of jealousy and selfishness.
also actually easy was pretty good at the beginning now that i’m thinking about it. people liked the song and the choreo, people loved smart, it basically only started going downhill after the church thing
I have been around since debut Ive never called myself a fearnot as I've liked their music but never really was more than a casual listener. I was just starting to pick a bias and then she got removed and members getting wrongfully removed just has always been hard for me. I am not able to become a true fan after that usually I stop liking the group but Le Sserafim was the first group where that wasn't the case. I have to say I am interested to see where we go from here. I think the Easy era ruined Le Sserafim for me honestly ( I will still try and give them a shot and tune in one more time). The main thing was just smarter going viral and Eunchae being exploited I don't think I can continue to tune in. That and I just feel a lot of disappointment not only with the kpop community as a whole but how HYBE has handled the situation and the statements that have been made about it. I really do feel bad for the girls. I wish they would go on like a break for a month and take a nice vacation together and get offline and unwind
You’re definitely looking at Fearless with rose colored lens. The harassment Garam went through I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy.
At only 16 years old, she had her dreams crushed over baseless rumors and was bullied into hiding. No child should have to endure death threats and accusations of being a sex worker. The fact that Hybe couldn’t even defend her because of people accusing her of being a whore and sleeping with executives to debut.
who in their right minds would accuse 16 yo Garam of being a SW... i hope she's safe now
I’m not a FEARNOT but I do follow the group here and there, and I wish that they would be passed this excruciating hate soon tbh at the end of the day everything is ephemeral so the hate bandwagon will soon to be gone hopefully but I know it’s going to scar the members emotionally for a very long time and it would make them truly “FEARLESS” afterwards haha.
Im so tired of one (usually girl group) being essentially sacrificed at the altar for the most minor of disgressions like being cringe to like the worse thing they did is sing on stage badly
Yeah its their job and they should put effort in bla bla but like
No one is forcing you to support a group who in your opinion doesn't "deserve" the attention they have garnered
it was so hard being a fearnot during easy era, it was DIFFICULT 😭😭😭 and i agree, antifragile era is definitely the most peaceful era le sserafim has ever had. 😭😭 give these girls a break
Out of all the le sserafim songs I've played in front of people (at work) they seem to like easy and flash forward the most
If you have time can you do a lsf Besides rankings i feel like there are a lot of videos that talks about lsf's hate train but a video a appreciating their music would be cool in times like these, they have amazing bsides, also great video idea 👍
lol the disclaimers before sarcastic comments is hilarious. some people really need that context, ur last video being a great example
im not a fearnot tho i was there to witness their debut and was excited bc the teasers for fearless got me hooked . i agree antifragile era was a peaceful time and its their best tt for me to this day. also i heard somewhere that antifragile was recorded even before garam left (pls dont attack me if im wrong abt this)😭
im gonna be honest but easy, unforgiven, and perfect night were not rlly my cup of tea but at least there are some people, including me, who dont go out of their way to hate on lsf and just go abt their day minding their own business and respect other ppls music tastes (i respect the people who love these songs, im not hating on them btw).
the only time i witnessed hate during unforgiven era was because of their encores and that terrible album cover design but easy and fearless era was rlly full of controversies and the latter is making me have war flashbacks, specifically how the kpop community treated garam and then celebrated when she was out of the group only to find out she was defending her friend.
also the hate train is getting out of hand like i already feel bad for lsf and it shows the worst monsters coming out of kpop stans when it comes to them😢 like atp majority of kpop stans are not even giving "constructive criticism" but are rather bullying them 💀 i didnt watch the documentary but ik that twt stans are gonna go full hate mode on them and continue their hating agenda esp invalidating and mocking the members feelings like these ppl and the internet really lack empathy when it comes to lsf (esp when it comes to their vocals but if its a male idol some would defend them with their lives💀) like that app is so toxic that i stopped using it years ago (and probably tiktok stans tho i never had tt but i always hear from fans that tt is just as toxic as twt and reddit also)💀like kpop stans are comfortable in bullying and being cruel to idols behind anonymity (but these same people wouldnt act like this irl and would be feeling regret if they ruined that person) but keep preaching that kpop idols are human and might affect their mental health but switch up when its lsf, like the hypocrisy is showing (like the cycle is never gonna end)💀
also i've seen some screenshotted tweets on instagram mocking sakura's feelings abt her vocals and something abt how she's afraid to sing on stage but these ppl keep hating and mocking her and saying "its her job" like it takes years to excel at one thing and to improve like i get the criticism on vocals but the prolonged hate for it is making it worse and they are trying to improve and are working on it like fans wanted. for me growth/progress is not linear and there's always gonna be challenges/ setbacks and it feels like kpop stans wanted her to improve quickly like they were rushing her (like in 1-2 years). even naturally-born singers i personally i knew still have to train and practice their voice for years in order for them to be great singers😐i think they are probably emotionally scarred bc of this. the lsf hate train is one of the worst hate trains i've seen and makes me hate being a kpop stan even more (like i wanna get out of kpop again like i did years before but its so hard for me to get out of this hole again like i miss my kpop-free year/s again like how do i do it pls help😭 )
im scared for their next comeback bc im afraid the hate against them might increase esp cuz of the documentary (like what others said, its probably gonna be crazy for them). i hope the girls can overcome this difficult time (ngl they need to stay out of social media for a while) and hope the hate train will end 😥
sorry for the long rant but just wanted to rant what im feeling based on the events i've seen happening around them, im sorry if some of these dont make sense and also pls dont attack 😭
i started being a fan of lsfm from overwatch and just only recently fully perused enjoying and discovering their music and for it to be during this time period where it feels all they receive is hate at this point, it really does suck because i really do think these girls are talented i just believe their management team are making them sing and perform things they do not excel in either/or they have not gotten the proper training to actually excel in what they are performing. and to see how lovely and funny these girls are when they’re not focused on music like with Leniverse for example, they do not deserve this hate under any circumstances. if anything all this hate makes me love these girls more because of how delusional and irrational the hate really is. i’m proud to call myself a fearnot.
every era but antifragile and i guess perfect night has lowkey been hell 😭 easy made me want to throw myself off a building and never go on the internet again
I know about the Burning Sun, but i'm curious, what's the Rising Sun?
crazy era will be slap...just see
during the easy era i had to go off twitter for some time because it was so bad, i was just angry at everyone all the time.
I dont understand why people have beef with remixes, like just dont listen to them
seems like le sserafim has only had 3 good days in their career man (/hyperbole) i feel bad for them
no but it's offensive to groups/ppl who can sing and know how to sing.
it is never peaceful being a fearnot I fear
I pray that le sserafim move away from the religous blasphemy concept for their upcomming cb... bcs i really miss them :(
but as a christian i just cannot support a group who uses gloryfing rebellion against the christian god as a metaphor for their edgy society rebellion concept. They used to be one of my favorite groups, i really hope source music changes the concept direction a little. Theres nothing wrong w rebellion... but why use religious metaphors like that... like why... you dont need to pose with a crown of thorns on your head, you really dont.
What I’m so confused with is the constant lsf antis I see in EVERY lsf video.At least with the itzy hate train, most itzy haters wouldn’t actively seek out itzy performances,Sofia media, variety content & music just to belittle them. If you believe lesserafim is so overrated & so problematic why not boycott them?? Watching their documentary… ATP you have to recognise there is an obsession.
Unforgiven and antifragile were the best eras tbh
The way we really being tested what it means to be Antifragile and fearnot 😭😭 I thought being a BLACKPINK stan was hard but holy moly do some people just hate that much in life. I seen so much lsrf hate online so much that although I’m not the members, I still had to cut off a lot of K-pop pages just for the sake of peace of mind. Now I just want them to LEAVE THE GIRLS ALONE
literally what happened. why did a flip switch in everyone’s brain??
I personally think it was unforgiven and perfect night like coz antifragile was not peaceful the whole rosaria scandal and it was literally their first comeback it was a lil messy 🤏
as a fearnot since debut, I have never defended any of my favs like I defended the fimmies during easy. Obviously it's not my place to defend them over the church situation so I didn't but other than that I sweated daily trying to defend them.
God these poor girls, and poor fans 😭 it seems like people would get mad at them for breathing. I really really hope things get better for them, and people magically become normal.
Side note, this is both a sad and funny concept for a video lmao
I mean they are to big to be ever given an cill time again i think
But as an fearnot i fear that some of us will get very very very protective know😅
Did u see there doku tho (that will make them protective as well i think)
that one person that called perfect night boring is etched into my brain
GUESS WHEN I BECAME A FEARNOT GUYS
I became a fearnot during Easy era❤😅
wow the intro was heavy and hilarious
lol what a great video idea!!
The opening monologue from that British lady was entering dangerous levels in cringe I almost stopped the video.
Tbf, i dont hate them for their fanbase. I hate them for THEM
huh?? why??
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Why? Hating their fanbase is one thing but to hate LSM is so...???