"Downvoted for stupid conclusion. The impact from beauty is fairly minimal. It makes much more sense to discriminate on the basis of race (against Blacks in the US) and sex (against women in men-majority industries such as tech and finance). Beauty is too weak a signal."
0:14 The guy on the right looks crazy while the guy on the left looks like a serial killer so if I had to pick one I would pick the guy on the right otherwise I’m saying neither
You are totally right even tho different circumstances require different theories. Specially Pygmalion effect really changed the way I’m looking at our society.
Im an atheist and it disturbs me how many people still gets fooled by this effect. This just proves that people havent really learned anything in the bible. I mean seriously, lucifer is one of their God's most beautiful creation and look what happened.
I felt this effect during my school years, senior high school were the hard one. Below average, not smart, not rich, and not good looking, felt like 3rd world student that just always getting things wrong. But I excel a lot when I got into college, because once you start to roll into college, you start to think with your brain, brain can make up what appearance cannot. I truly hate my school years after all, waste of time for me.
It's true. When I was younger, I had acne, glasses and a hairstyle that didn't match my features. My posture was very bad, my walking lacked confidence, my outfits embarassing. I'd then change all of this, and people became a lot nicer. Just yesterday I was very tired, so I took a walk outside to buy some groceries. I replaced my elegant, neat clothes with an old, ragged sweatshirt and some pants that looked awful on me. My hair was a bit messy, my posture - hunched. I actually looked like a homeless person. I was amazed at how badly everyone treated or looked at me. Returned home still shocked. Then saw myself in the mirror and had an "Wait a minute" moment.
uhmm all superficial facade though. im aiming for a personal vibe which doesnt require me to avail those expensive clothing just to appear a certain way. im more wanting myself to appear nakedly beautiful not because of the gloss i cover myself with but true 'inner beauty' ( and sorry for the jargon but its still true and that term is timeless) because at the end of the day, you are your body not your clothes or cover ups.
@@jJust_NO_ you don't need expensive outfits to look neat and clean, to have good hygiene or combed hair. Straight posture and good walking are all free, as far as I know. And the fact that I wear elegant clothes on a daily basis it's not something I call superficial. It matches my energy. There are expensive sweatshirts as well as cheap dresses. I haven't mentioned, for one brief second, money. The inner beauty you're talking about is reflected in one's body language and appearance.
When my wife worked behind a counter selling memberships, she seemed more successful while wearing a mask, and suspects this was because customers couldn't see her crooked teeth. This may not be exactly what this video is about but seems to correlate the idea that people simply favor attractive people even when it comes to choosing whether or not to buy something.
In Japan crooked teeth are seen as cuteness I don't think it's bad at all personally either. Might be more cute sometimes! I'm sure you have a gorgeous wife brotha
What we see as beauty are signs of health. Simetry and good proportions tell of good genes. Fitness and neatness tell of good habits. Healthy people tend to be more capable by default, so we are hardcoded to expect as such. But in a world with so many people, variations to the norm become common and social trends lead to hollow beautiful people too often
No it's not sign of good genes, it's sign of averaged porcelain doll ( genes of mediocre quality). Most beautiful people always vibrate energy in action. Average people only dully shining in appearance.
Maybe it’s my doubts / imposter syndrome but I feel the same way being 6’4 and havin been told throughout life I have good bone structure idk what to believe regarding others perceptions and I don’t think I really ought to. If I was uglier or not as handsome I’d get the attractive vs sexual harassment treatment. It sucks that everyone’s so superficial but I’d be lying if I said I am not DEFINITELY superficial.
I will rant a bit I suppose, and are these standards I have fatphobic, homophobic or excuses through a culture or religion that stemmed from those thoughts? Stripping all that outside flutter away it all becomes meaningless. Every person I see believes they’re the main character as much as I do. A lot/ every individual will/ can feel like they’re against the world/ being watched by it when they’re doing the same. How does one fight against these practices besides confronting em n their roots? A lot of this is trivial @ the end and to what does that benefit us I’m bored n finished
but it changes the odds since it can easily be assumed that 9 out of 10 people would have been influenced by the halo affect meaning they were less compotent
We cannot deny the truth that we all are under the halo effect. Since childhood we all had been seeing in the movies heros are always good looking, bad people always look bad.
Just so you know, superhero stories are far more complex than you may think, this very issue has also been dived into, to put an example, many girls may seem Peter Parker is cute, though in the real world he would be treated badly just as the comics depict it, he is handsome after all, though the thing is, he has heart, superhero stories eventually have the heroes face things of all sorts of topics, especially from sides many may see controversial while still exploring all perspectives before trying to figure out objective truth to a solution, that’s a well written story, anyhow superheroes are meant to eventually deal with the horrors of their society and even all sorts of disturbing topics. The Halo effect is something that is depicted in the stories of heroes, often with the very villains they go up against.
@@alexanderavila8934 I'm sorry I didn't understand you very well. Why exactly wouldn't girls like superheroes if they tackle problems and find solutions? Unless most problems are caused by girls...
It's the exact opposite for me. If they are attractive I don't trust them. Ugly people empathize better with ugly people. Attractive people don't care. The same goes for nurses or doctors who are chicks. I prefer an ugly male doctor over a female doctor or nurse. An ugly male doctor may empathize better than a female doctor who after doing an exam goes in the back and body shames you. Myth 1 Women are kind and nurtering. Reality women body shame men and bully men for not looking objectively attractive and the same goes for dudes who fit in and look the same
Which is why I love story like Berserk where the villain is seen as good guy, beautiful and "the chosen one" while the hero is is a random guy where almost everyone hate him. It's a deconstruction of fantasy story.
Takeaway from this: Get fit, look good, dress well. These things are all superficial but we can’t deny that they afford us an advantage in all aspects of life
I hate how easy it is for you to say "get fit, look good" As someone who wasn't genetically gifted, I'm fukin jealous of people who can change themselves by changing lifestyles. There's nothing I can do but for surgery or smth. I'm not facially pretty but I AM intellectually gifted and it takes so much effort to prove myself cuz i don't "look like it"
@@lirakaruta8026 You don’t have to be genetically gifted to get fit. Of course people who are genetically gifted will have the advantage, and people who are seriously disabled may find it impossible. But if you are just a person with an average or below average physique, there’s no reason not to work on yourself to become better than you were yesterday. I have no clue what your situation is so I’m not going to try and make any judgement calls on you, but I will say that I’ve seen a lot of overweight or obese people who have “tried everything” to lose weight (except proper diet and exercise)
@@lirakaruta8026 they said get fit, not be thin/slim/underweight. You get fit by exercising, which I think nobody can do while in the womb, nobody can exercise while they were just born either. Nobody is born with a lifetime's worth of exercise. Also by look good it could simply mean comb your hair, iron your clothes. Choose clothes that fit you, preferably one that compliments your figure. If you're a dude maybe you can shave or something. All those takes effort, you cannot be born with those. Whether you do it or not shows how much effort you'd bother to put in
@@kurzjames i have a hot body. I DO work out. I even get treated nicely by people with my mask on. It's only when i have it off is when i can feel the difference. I almost never take it off in social situations. No matter how much i work out, the facial structure is not something i can change. It's not v "feminine" and pretty and there's nothing I can do about it
I discovered this same phenomenon while I was studying Argentine Tango - the best-looking dancers were highly sought after as partners, but they actually turned out to be the WORST dancers. The handsome/beautiful dancers relied upon their appearance to earn invitations to dance (or acceptances from their invitees), whereas the less-appealing in appearance dancers - knowing they were at a disadvantage because of their lack of physical beauty/good looks - would work three times harder to learn this difficult dance. Also, the best-looking ones were the most likely to “hit on” their partners rather than focusing on the beauty of their dancing, preferring to use dancing as a way to find sex partners rather than actual dance partners. The less attractive dancers - perhaps sensing that they had “no chance” in the sex department - would focus on their dance technique and developing friendships within the community. These friendships sometimes ripened into lasting romances, as opposed to the “one night stands” preferred by the more attractive. After years of observation, I came to the conclusion that it paid to select dance partners on the basis of their actual abilities, and to give preference to the less conventionally attractive. I got to dance with better partners, which made me a better dancer. I also found that this same trend extrapolated to dating as well. The best looking people were the worst jerks. The less attractive individuals were much kinder and far more interesting to be with.
the spotlight effect beautiful people get often lead them to develop crippling anxiety which kills their drive and capacity to excell at certain field. sometimes being anonymous makes you expand your vision thus your horizon. theres no cowering tendencies when you are not being looked at and examined. youre free to explore, express and discover
Yeah, generally what comes easy go away easy too... So while beauty makes an easier life, the person will have so many followers obsessed by their appearance that they wouldn't feel the need to be attached for life with only one person... They're receiving attention from too many, so they'll be always finding new of what they think it's " interesting " people in the middle of those obsessing about their looks.
so is smart privilege, rich family privilege, tall privilege, longevity privilege, or any other DNA privilege. They are all real. I'm sometimes surprised that some people would think pretty privilege is the exception and is not real.
@@kanck7909 most dna priviledges are not readily apparent or even important in a grandiose sense. As an example; yeah, you might have some cold resistance if you are form northern countries but nobody cares cause they are either there living with you, having the same resistance or they are elsewhere, at a place where it doesn't matter. longevity priviledge means almost nothing without youth. At best you'll get more time with your grandkids or sth but even that doesn't matter (to you) cause had you died earlier, you wouldn't have cared since if your spirit carries on it's detached from a single lifetime or if you cease to exist, you don't care at all. Smart priviledge means nothing if you've been abused and your confidence is dogshit or if every single obstance presents itself to you cause your talent is for some niche domain of intellect you can't access in a random globally irrelevant country. Bonus points for the fact that you still have to work to aquire info necessary for the full flourishing of your intellect, which takes time. Rich family priviledge, being tall and being good looking all give you immediate impact without any semblance of preparation needed. If you are rich, you have every material thing/experience you want right then and there with minimal downtime from stuff like traveling. You can even overtake smart people in getting degrees by paying for them, sure it's not the real deal, but you still got it in the eyes of society. You can also overtake naturaly long living individuals by getting access to better food, more free time for self care activities, access to new tech etc Being good looking and/or tall gives you immediate street cred without effort so long as you are not immensely abused. The street cred can be in many domains, from instant consideration as a potential mate, to "free" money by way of modeling opportunities, sports opportunities etc to general respect and avoidance of conflict with you.
This is literally what my mom did when she got married. I'm from India and the people here weren't yet as progressive and open minded few years back as they are today, arranged marriages was the accepted social norm to get married wherein the groom/bride's parents seek out a partner for their son/daughter. My mom was really brainy and also really good looking so her parents easily found a lot of matches for her who were also pretty handsome and earned well, and then there was my dad who was a doctor but was not really a looker, quite the opposite actually. My grandparents and other relatives tried to convince my mom to marry this guy who had a job in finance and was was known by them quite well and was also really smart and outgoing and handsome and stuff but my mom chose my dad for some or the other reason,who was a from a different state, different part of the country, with a different culture who according to some of her relatives looked like a 'cockroach' at that time. 6 months after her marriage she learnt from her relatives that the first guy was discovered to be have started having affairs with multiple women after he started hitting rough patches in his job and whatnot. My parents have been married for 20 years now and she's glad she used her head to make this decision that day, she's in a nice house with a husband that cudnt have asked for a better wife, and a son who's going to college this year
I have noticed people's reaction to me to be so helpful, friendly and positive. One year I had an injury and gained some weight, then noticed a huge disconnect in the way others responded. I healed, got fit again, and people went right back to treating me better than well. Maybe this is just nature. I go way out of my way to be extra kind to those who might be seen as "ugly". I get it!
In my opinion, it's near to impossible to avoid getting fooled by the halo effect, unless... it works the other way around. For instance, imagine you meet a new person, but at first you dislike their appearance. In a matter of months, as you get to know them better, you'll likely shift your point of view, and begin to appreciate their traits more. And, at some point, you might just end up falling in love with them!
Nah, it just proves that people havent really learned anything in the bible and those "religious" christians that you know turns out just to be the biggest bible verse cherry picker of them all. I mean seriously, it literally said in their little book that lucifer was the most beautiful of Gods creation and look what happened....
I agree that this is prevalent. However, I've met a ton of good looking people who are not smart, and I think maybe that role of "good looking person" from childhood on made them focus less on important things that can help you become smarter.And I've also seen smart good looking women treated poorly at work or school...like they aren't smart. We need to be better about our preconceived notions.
Meeting tons of good looking people who are not smart isn't surprising because a ton of people in general aren't smart. At work OR school? Which one is it? If you've really seen this first-hand, why the "or"?
Inherently good looking people tend to have a lot more distractions in their life during the critical 13 ~ 30 yrs. old stage where it's the best if not the only time to build the foundations for complex knowledge, artificially good looking people are pretty much distracted by default, so it's never out of the ordinary to find people who have more intellectual achievement are not interesting to look at. If you go to places where students are tiered by school at young age such as Japan or China, you probably will see the high tier school are filled with plain looking students and low tier schools filled with total babes. Just the way the society works that's all. Chinese people have this old saying: "Rad face, thin life" (紅顏薄命), that means good looking lady has a tendency to end up with a tragic life, it's at least something worth thinking about.
@@holmiumh Your logic is flawed. Less good looking people tend to expend more of their effort to gain that level of social outcome just given to attractive people, so attractive people can much more easily choose to focus on study and still have a strong social life when they take time for it
I got two coats. One yellow raincoat and one long brown kind of wealthy looking coat. The difference when I wear them is huge. People let me go in front earlier, smile more, look at me more and appear to be kinder when I wear my 'wealthy coat'. When I wear the long yellow raincoat, they tend to not look at me or ignore me more. Appearance is everything
Very true. I've seen this in school many times, but I also had a conversation with someone who I categorized as "smart" and "hardworking" that I'll never forget that's almost the oppisite. She told me she hated when people identified her only by her aesthetic features because she was "pretty", so she actually worked twice as hard academically. I was surprised because I never thought of her genetic gifts as her most noticeable trait, but her ambition. When I thought about it though, I realized when was very pretty visually. She said it was good I didn't realize because it meant she was succeeding at being remembered for something else other than her looks. She was crazy smart, what a gem.
I experienced it myself. I started working as a waitress in a restaurant, and I noticed how customers were specifically nicer to one of my colleagues. After a while, I realized that's because she's pretty. So I started wearing make-up before going to work, just to see if that would make a difference. People were acting so differently ! Customers would spend more time chit-chatting, giving more tips, even my boss was nicer to me. So I kept the habit to wear make-up at work and it really affected my job experience.
The halo effect is a mental heuristic. It would be too mentally taxing for people to do 100% of their thinking rationally and methodically, so we naturally take mental shortcuts. One reason those shortcuts stay around is that they are right most of the time. The average person can very easily tell with a glance that they are in a dangerous area or around dangerous people even if they can't put their finger on why. In the same way, probably 70% of physical attractiveness involves body composition, grooming, dressing, and the presence of body modifications like tattoos and piercings, all of which are directly under the control of the individual. If we meet someone who is physically fit, well groomed, well dressed, and not covered in tattoos and piercings we instantly know a lot about them that is not necessarily independent of their performance in other areas.
In my experience it's true. I remember when I was in college I was pretty good looking, but I had piercings, wore rocker clothing, and had long hair. My female teachers hated me and would show a radical change in semblance when I walked in. I There was another dude that went to classes looking like the typical guy that never missed the Sunday mass would always get a point or two ahead of me. On several occasions, I had the chance to compare both of our exams and was outraged to see that my answers were better and more elaborate, from that day I knew the game. The next semester I started dressing as him and guess what, my scores improved and the same teachers started treating me better, right away, I didn't change my study habits, they were good enough, but just looking like a catholic boy makes the conservative teachers like you better. Those fucking bitches... Long story short, play the teachers game if you want better scores, but remember that scores don't matter that much outside the building.
That form of grading is horrible. The way you dress doesn't look Christian but I know that a true Christian doesn't have to simply look like one. Many false Christians dress up appearing as the traditional real Christian. As long as you live by the Bible and accept God into your life, then you're a true Christian
I'm a social person, but I can't lie, the halo and horn effect works have affected me and I've seen it happen all around me, I've seen less attractive people shunned and attractive people chosen as leader even though they're bad at it. I see that less attractive people has less friends than of ones that are attractive, and often they're lonely in class. Attractive people do get shunned to at times but they're mostly rare cases, sometimes because they're an introvert or because they did something "bad" like rat out people that cheated or stuff like that (I realized that we've also normalized the wrong thing that doing the right thing is shunned upon, it's rather a shame. I've seen this firsthand because an incident like this happened in my class, a popular, attractive kid got shunned upon because another kid was sharing midterms answers on the class group chat)
(1/2) In India there was a face cream brand named as fair and lovely who depicted in their ads that fair looking people are sucessful in their careers but last year they had to stop this ad and chg their brand name in wake of geroge floyd protests but now i got that their ads were based on truth cause of halo effect existing in society good looking people are "sometimes" favoured a lot in their respective careers. (2/2) I personally believe that cause of movies this halo effect has became more prevalent in society as they cast only good looking people as protagonists and by this it just made people to preceive that good looking peeps are always all rounder...
This makes me think of an employer I worked for a few years ago. It was a restaurant and I asked a coworker what happened to one of the newer kids on dishwasher because he had been gone. He said the owner took him off the schedule because he wasn’t very good looking. So instead we had an unruly bunch of good looking kids who got high a lot poorly operating the place. I quit it wasn’t worth the frustration. I heard the owners are getting a divorce and the place is going downhill.
As a doctor .. yes ! It happens everytime!!! Senior professors , nurses, male consultants... They just would see through me ! There was always halo effect around me to everyone ... I was tired proving myself ... So I stopped ! I just gave up. I was always discriminated and picked on.... Only those who worked with me closely enough realised how good I was !
As a nurse, I’ve seen too many times short female doctors treated with disrespect, especially if they are not white, native English speakers. Btw I live in Australia. But i automatically have more respect for the consultants who are taller white men. How crazy is that?
The Halo Effect often works in reverse. Envy too often causes some people to go out of their way to place roadblocks in someone's way due to their good looks. Facts!
@@morgannine If beautiful people are statistically more likely to gain undeserved success then it's a statistically the best choice to go for the less beautiful person. Saying it's a case by case basis is stupid as that's not how statistics work. You can't guarantee the less beautiful person is more competent but the chance higher and if you were smart and knew nothing else then the less beautiful person would be the best option.
@@icebox1954 that sounded like discrimination jealousy and bigotry. Human beings are human beings. How they look is ONE part of their whole package. Everyone has different qualifications. Every profession has different requirements. You can't ask an "ugly" person to be cast as some "pretty" historical figure. All this "pretty hate" seem to be coming from the feeling of defeat "ugly" people get coz of how society treats them. Confidence in your craft matters. We all get old and ugly eventually. Trust that how you look don't at all define your qualifications. As a scientist/engineer & a pragmatic Theravada Buddhist, I absolutely disagree with your biased ideas.
To some extent yes, we can ignore halo effect when people criticaly and with suspicion judge other people by their actions. It is hard for us to ignore halo effect since we mix healthy looking beatiful people with competence and other qualities to just for reproduction.
To figure out a person's actions you probably need to ask a lot of questions or follow them around for a while. But to figure out a person's looks you only need to glance at them for a second. I can see why the halo effect exists like I mean... you can't have enough time to follow around every single stranger you see
Ooh I always said this... People considered beautiful have an easier life. I understand this can be a natural response, but what I find absurd it's the different treatment people give to others only because of how they look... for me this is very bad and need to change immediately. It's disgusting when people try to humiliate others just because they find they're '' ugly '' not fair at all.
It not about humiliating someone for being ugly but it is more about how people in general unconsiously give better treatment to attractive, better looking people. It doesn't have to be you worshipping them or kissing their ass at every step but more about smaller, barely noticable ways you would treat someone who is pretty but not someone who you consider ugly or bad looking. And it is hard to change that because throughout our whole existance as human beings, we have always cherished beauty not matter which one we are talking about.
@@filipradojcic461 It's hard to change, but I'm not like this at all... I don't worship people because of how they look... I treat everybody the same way, no matter how they look. I know what I'm talking about, I always see it happening, and people do try to humiliate someone they think it's ugly, simply because they think they're ugly! And I don't agree we should think this is normal, because I don't behave like that, I don't treat people different just because they look different. Nobody choose how they would look when they came to this world, so why overvalue characteristics that wasn't even chosen by the person? Or humiliate them for the same reason? This sound really weird and unfair for me... It's only appearance... People call others all types of names for free just because they're considered ugly for them, I saw it many times! I lived it too. So I don't think it's normal. People are people, and should be treated equally... Thank you for your response, I like to see different opinions! 😊
@@heywatchmeunfold8457 Unfortunately you can't change human nature, people are always going to treat some who they don't find nice to look at differently. And it's not even 100% wrong, if someone is fat and has a circle for a face, they're most likely depressed and lazy and spiteful or whatever, just not nice to talk to. But if there is someone who is fit and has a natural smile on his face, most likely they're happy with their life and friendly and nice to talk to. And if someone is fit, basically everyone will find their face attractive, when you lose fat and gain muscle your face does that too and makes it way more attractive, so for 99.9% of cases. It's not because how they're born.
@@heywatchmeunfold8457 Man idk, you can't control your hardwired instincts that much. Like, you can unlearn and relearn learned biases to some extent but not fully Say if someone asks you the question asked in the beginning of the video again. You would no doubt give the correct answer but was that because of your self-corrected personality or was it you being conscious of your decision because you watched the video before? Biases are inherently unconscious in nature. If you are aware of it at that moment, your sense of self-respect might cause you to correct your bias (that is, you might feel dirty about feeling badly about an ugly person and then you correct your feeling about them) Point being that the bias is still there. And it is hard to be conscious of the innumerable psychological biases we all have and correct them at all times, so the end result ends up being that we feel we are neutral (which we might for 10% of the time) when we are still having uncorrected biases the rest of the time. It is worse than being blissfully unaware because atleast that doesn't give an air of confidence about your fair judgement, which trying to correct your bias does. Long essay short, what I am trying to say is that you can never reign in hardwired biases all the time, it's not your fault, it's just human nature, don't beat yourself up over it. You should just accept that you will be always be biased to some degree and try to correct it if you can but not get too worked up over it 😁
While this is true, choosing people by reversing the halo effect is just as equally beneficial/harmful as not reversing. It is still just a feeling. There is nothing concrete about a person until you spend time with him/her. Fun fact: In our country we have a saying: "Being ugly is a crime". This goes to show that your appearance actually plays a signficant role in your success. Beautiful people get it easier than the others, and that's just the nature of things.
I think that just being aware of where you rate in the general Beauty spectrum of your Society allows you to better gauge how much effort you're going to have to put in to get the reputation you want. I've noticed a lot just since I've been losing weight I get a lot more discounts and easier to receive assistance from retail workers when I can't find something. My assertive personality traits which have been the same regardless of being fat or thin, do not get as much criticism now that I am lower body weight.
I do feel like this can work backwards too. People I care about or know are smart and capable seem more attractive and beautiful to me. I know I see nearly all my friends as incredibly attractive but when other ppl judge em they’re deemed as average so while appearance can change how someone feels about you, the way someone feels about you can change how they see you too. 😊
Go with the doctor, who can be trusted more. Btw today this seems to make a turn, since every movie is about that pretty girls being mean, and handsome guys being evil. If you are good looking, you get instant hate for that and a ton of compliment from people, who want to benefit from you.
@John Grigg I know right, me and my former partner had recieved many romours, been accused of having venereal diseases (while still virgin) and I was labeled as a spoiled kid, despite wearing regular clothes and having the same outbursts as any teen. While others could scream and shout, when I was not particularly polite, they say pretty harsh things behind my back. Those things were heard by girls, who find me attractive and their sudden change of behavior towards me has showed me that they hear stuff about me. This was not a black and white story, my point is that nothing is like, what it seems. If you are reading this, my advice is to know yourself and always stood up, never let them to pull you back next to themselves. Find your position in life and stick to it.
@@OmarAli-sg6hf 1. Make a turn = It is changing. 2. Actors are good looking, they mostly just show low self-esteem to make us believe they are not good looking.
Well I usually don't get to choose my doctors when I get to a hospital. But if I could, I would try not to choose the prettier believing the halo effect, neither assume the ugliest worked harder to be a good doctor. Truly experience is completely halo independent, both ways.
Yeah, you look at their qualifications or achievements, try it out and if the doctor doesnt seem to be right for you switch and repeat... I mean isn't it common sense to do it this way?
I think this is true and it’s also true that pretty women get heavily bullied from other women for their appearance and get put in really creepy inappropriate situations with men. There’s give and take.
I'd like to add a generalised caveat to that - pretty women are either kind hearted/gentle and are bullied by other women OR they are kind hard nosed/tough and play the game/ bully other women right back. Ofc this is a generalisation and there's a middle ground in there somewhere, but these are the most common scenarios imo.
Frankly I have never seen a beautiful person being bullied because they are beautiful. Either men or women… beautiful people are generally the popular ones and they often run the show. Also because often beautiful people are also from families with good financial incomes. Often enough beauty and money go together, and both are strong ingredients of the halo effect.
@@An-lh3ox I've seen it many times. I've also seen some very beautiful people grow up as outcasts. Some of the richest people are not good looking, while some people who have basically nothing are very attractive. You deal with the hand you are dealt.
@@An-lh3ox It happens a lot more than you can imagine. Most of these bullies are jealous toxic women. I speak for a friend. She’s really, really pretty, which (for some reason) led to her female co-workers to hate her. They speak nasty stuff about her behind her back, give her very judgmental looks, laugh at her mistakes... It’s all so toxic and negative. (However, she’s pretty chill with all the male co-workers.) She shared her story on her private and many other girls told her they had a similar experience!! And it’s always the girls who are less attractive than them that do the bullying.
As a person who's way too lucky in grades and stuff.... Now I know why I've always got higher grades than people who've actually studied. Either because I'm friendlier to teachers than my friends are or because of the halo effect, or maybe a little bit of both.
I would think they feed on each other. If you are treated well by your teachers, then it is easier to be friendly towards them. If you are less attractive, then the teachers make you work harder, and are more harsh in their judgement. Thus not having such a positive opinion of them, and not willing to be as friendly towards them.
@@toddfraser3353 American schools seem horrible, if you answer the question correctly you get 100 if you didn't answer correctly you get 0 , professors only grade based on accuracy and knowledge at least outside the US it seems
@@SieMiezekatze This is fine if you just take multiple choice. However, when grading an Essay then there is more leeway to how things can be graded. Also if a student just decides to ask for more help. The favored student will get more attention. The better looking kid will often get more effort, than the homely kid. Teaching in any country isn't an exact science, and emotional bias can help or harm individuals.
@@toddfraser3353 I really don't think it affects grades that much unless your teacher is really taking things personal. You have to remember that teachers are probably sitting at home/office and staring at a fat stack of papers to grade, the last thing they're going to be thinking about is the looks of their student. However I do agree with you when students ask for help, when there is actual face to face interpersonal communication, looks can definitely be a factor on how recipient someone is to what you say.
The most interesting people I know where never the most attractive to me. What made them interesting was their level of knowledge, personality, and style. I imagine this is because they did indeed have to work harder for the recognition attractive people where given for far less. Being an extremely attractive person myself I know often I’m undeserving of some of the privileges I’ve received in my life. So I don’t find this information hard to believe. But hey what do I know? I’m just a extremely attractive man who never had to work for anything in life ❤
You're accumulating bad karma from your narcissism and selfishness. I suggest you tread carefully, your next life may not be so lavish. Try to live your life in accordance with dharma.
Impossible to ignore, even if you try. At worst you go into the absolute oposite and you rate ugly people better than good looking ones out of spite, but that does not do the good looking but yet qualified people just, and also not the unqualified ugly people. But as I said: We can't stop letting it influence us, even if we try not to.
My grandfather always said, "if you have the choice between barbers. One has a good haircut and the other has a really bad haircut pick the one with the bad cut. The one with the good cut probably got his haircut by that guy and vice versa"
In the first two set of characters I'd argue the 2nd guy (older, glasses scraggly) looks more like a genius scientist who you'd want working on you. While the 1st guy (pretty boy) seems like he might do well on Tinder but you wouldn't want to give him a scalpel. So I thought that was an odd example because, again, depends on the situation. I think if anything the older/uglier doctor generally has the halo effect as it pertains to surgery. And I think most people would agree actually, so while the video makes a point it seems almost backwards in it's example.
It's not like you usually get the choice of who operates on you, though. It will be the surgeon who is free on the day you're scheduled. Unless you have the choice of hospitals beforehand, but certainly not when it's an emergency thing.
Idk there are some good looking people with a not so inviting aura or presence..but there are average to below average people with an upbeat or positive energy around them... i think for me it's the outwards energy that they project rather than the simple outside appearance (or vice versa) that affects my judgement..
I think a lot about stuff like this. "Why do some people seem to have everything going for them ?" While the beauty bias could be considered unfair in most cases, I would argue that being treated nicely creates for people a positive "life view" which creates a virtuous circle of abondance. If the world treats you like a friend and a worthy human being, you go on treating the world as such and I suspect it solidifies/amplifies the halo effect. We like positive people who are comfortable in their own skins. It's harder to attain for some, but I feel it's still within reach for anyone. If all else fails, wisdom can get you there.
That's what's called the pigmalion effect. When someone is treated well by others, it causes them to feel more confident, optimistic and motivated, creating a loop where good treatment brings acomplishment, which brings good treatment and so on.
I experienced this first hand. I was short and skinny and most people found me unattractive. But after high school, I started working out and grew taller, started to look better overall and the amount of respect and people willing to interact with me shot upwards from men and women
i've noticed that sometimes really good looking men /become/ relaxed, kind people. they get warm attention and friendship and non-judgement, which makes them more relaxed and confident, which gets them even more warm attention, and so on in a kind of fortunate upwards spiral.
This is true since I’m a people who always choose self improvement, nowadays I’m look really good comparing with average, and people tend to come to me more frequently than before. Also some people I have relationship for long time period, look at me different than years before ~ in a positive way.
A similar effect is called, "the Placebo effect". It is mostly refered to medicine, but you could also see it in restaurants. A food with higher prices sometimes tastes better than lower prices even if the ingredients are the same. We believe that the quality and techniques of making the food would also be higher. In relation to the Halo and Horn effect, we'll feel or evaluate good looking/higher valued items than lower ones. The interesting thing is that Placebo effect might be unreliable, but still works at times.
I’m really pretty and my whole life people have often assumed that I lack intelligence before really getting to know me and so they are often shocked when I start ranting about a really niche and complex topic. Not to mention I’ve always been really good at styling clothes and outfits and I carry myself well, so people often assume that I’m financially well off. I’ve even been called privileged and if anyone took the time to know me, they’d realize that it’s really unwise to make assumptions about people. Judgment goes every which way.
@@BananaRama1312 I was only sharing my experience. You think this is about victimizing is just you projecting because you yourself cannot share your experience without feeling that it's a sad story or gaining pity. When in reality it's very easy to share ones experience without expecting sympathy. If you can't relate, then piss off and have a nice a day 🙂
Since getting my nose done, people have been responding to me better because it has made me look younger and more refined. I still look like my ethnic group so what I was experiencing before wasn't racism at all, just unfamiliarity with ethnic quirks.
What if you're actually deceiving yourself? Maybe nobody really cared what your nose look like, or if it changed at all. But before your nose job you might have been unconfident, walk with a slumped posture, stressed, push people away. Now you are more confident, friendly and ACT (not look) refined... Because tbh I don't think such a minor difference as nose actually impact anything that much lol
I think it’s hard to avoid influence by the halo effect even (indirectly) even once you are aware of it because almost every where the haloed people have already benefited from it, so for example a haloed person is more likely to successfully complete and be given all the gifts and benefits necessary to become a specialist to become the type of doctor you need to see than a horned person, I don’t know about you but I have never even had the option to see an unattractive specialist doctor, as demonstrated in the animation.
Unfortunately, you also see that those who find themselves ‘Not good looking / attractive enough’ can also have really horrible and insecure personalities. They might like to drag everyone down
The Halo effect cannot be avoided. We tend to be nicer to beautiful people and avoid the ugly ones. i think our society works somehow like this. Beautiful people are the ones given the spotlight, the average people support/admire them and the ugly ones are neglected... This is so unfair .. wish we could look through someone's soul than their face :(
I believe the halo effect sometimes works in the opposite direction as regards brilliance. Every teacher I’ve had on first meeting me assumed I was unintelligent because I am good-looking. This affected me for the longest time until I shook it off.
The halo and horn effects are not things to ignore, but rather things to be hyper aware of. Like the example with the doctors, to ignore the halo effect would be to assume that both doctors are truly equal, rather than favoring the handsome doctor. But when you take the halo effect into account, you realize the ugly doctor is likely better at his job due to achieving the same rank without the advantage of the halo effect that the attractive doctor has. Or rather, achieving the same rank with the handicap of a horn effect. With that information, one is able to consider the illogical biases of others in order to come to a more objective understanding. Especially in this age of influencers and social media, it can be paramount to understand how people may be down right deceptive with their appearance. All manner of confusion can be cleared up with the wisdom that people and things are not always what they appear to be.
When you’re at a disadvantage, you try to make up for it. It can be anything from hand-eye coordination to spelling skills and even something mundane like listening to instructions. We’re hardwired to make the best of what we got and make up for what we don’t. If you seemed unappealing to a person of interest eyes, then you would probably be doing something to appear more approachable and desirable. It all depends on what we are bred to believe; one of us may value strength in anger and outgoing life, whilst someone else considers that being reserved and mysterious is much more critical. So if beauty is going to be a thing that determines someone’s initial opinion of you, if you want them to like you, your going to be the most charming person you can be to earn that affection. You’d think more people would be better because of this way of life, but alas, when life is easier for you, become soft in the head and stop trying as hard. Because you believe things are just that easy.
This is so true, I remember when a few years ago while I was doing an internship, it was me and another girl competing for the position to be hired after the internship period ended, I remember being very mediocre, doing nothing more than the minimum and she was always super hard-working, staying late many times, and when the day came to choose who was going to be promoted, my boss came to me to ask if I wanted the position, and I was honest, I said that I didn't think I deserved it more than the other girl who was doing her best. This situation was definitely the "unfair privileges" related to appearance that often happen
I know this to be the case as I have witnessed it occcuring to others. As for me I once had a potential employer's manager confess to me I did not get the job because of my name. I've always been thankful they skipped me. If they are that superficial with those whom they employ, how are they in business prctices and reputation?
I remember a specific event where I my vision of others suffered a halo effect. For me, I held online artists in a spotlight. When I saw someone with what I considered great art skills, I assumed they were more friendly, more likely to make new friends. Maybe even their life was more in order than those without skills. Anyways, it was something I couldn't shake through my time online, and eventually I took a hiatus from that platform. I'm glad I could realize the halo effect in my life, so I could continue talking to others without prejudice.
It is impossible to ignore the halo effect. All we can do it to be aware that we and everybody else is influenced by this. Then we can decide based on the situation if we should actively work against it, or not.
The Halo effect is real! I knew a pretty English tutor before who was a consistent top earner at work because she gets more bookings than others (20+ per day)-- even when, at some point, she cannot converse very well using the language and is not very good at grammar-- these should be important since she is teaching English. On the other hand, there was another English tutor who is very good pedagogically at teaching English, is patient, and has good classroom management; yet he only gets few bookings (around 5-8 a day). Unfortunately, three of his students (who booked randomly) filed a complaint with the remark: "The teacher is ugly", and the like. This teacher is dark-skinned, and is on the chubby side of the chart. The complaints affected his teaching record and he got fewer students than before, sometimes, none, and he has more mouths to feed. 😢 **I wanted to assume that the incidents were influenced by gender preference, but the company actually wished to hire more male than female tutors as per parents' request. Therefore, the story shared above is surely an example of the "Halo Effect".
Halo effect is only applicable to narcissist who are obsessed with looks. Moral people with character don't judge based on looks. Also, how do you explain all the beautiful women killed out of envy or jealousy? And beautiful women not taken seriously at their job?
As an ugly person, knowing about the halo and horns effect has gradually allowed me to develop tools to combat it within myself. However, even with this knowledge it was only being stung/hurt a few times by beautiful people (and coming to terms with that pain - so that it wasn't simple bitterness) that the lesson was truly hammered in; the main problem now is when it comes to people I, specifically, am interested in - which is not just a matter of beauty.
I've seen this in the history field as well, online there are blogs dedicated to "historical crushes" where you can submit historical people you have a crush on. Always the more attractive figures get more likes and attention while the "ugly" figures get way less, even resulting in one blog banning "unattractive" people. Someone could say they think young Stalin was attractive and people will agree with him despite him being a ruthless dictator and parent, but if someone calls de Gaulle attractive then they're branded as a weirdo despite de Gaulle being a courageous leader and good father. It saddens me because history doesn't run on pretty faces but great people instead.
It's really effective my best friend is a mean person but he get treated like a king and has a lot of friends and girls have a crush on him just because he's attractive but I'm the opposite of him maybe I'm hideous but I'm a really nice and kind person people get away from me and avoide me and when they get to know me they always say " I thought you were mean" or something like that it's really sad that people judge each other based on their faces but what can we do?, It's part of our nature
It’s also about being charismatic. We do also have social skills after all. If those two people really is equally qualified, then it doesn’t matter how they look. When it’s about work then someone could be as good at the job as someone else, but not a good coworker. There’s also the question about cheating for the different tests. Someone might be able to physically see someone else’s paper, while someone else just got someone else to take the test on computer because who would know anyway. And at last, you don’t mind this being a thing if/when it benefits you.
I think that if we judge after, if someone is in good shape then the halo effect isn’t bad, but if we judge after the appearance they are born with, then it’s bad.
I think certain kinds of attractiveness signals that someone takes good care of themselves, and when it comes to medical professionals if they take good care of themselves, we trust them to take good care of us perhaps. No one wants a dentist with dark yellow teeth for instance just because it’s a subconscious thing. None of us can control our bone structure, but I think posture, ani e haircut, and dressing for your body type can still have a positive subconscious affect on others
I don’t know if I agree. People who are highly intelligent and ambitious USUALLY make the correlation that taking care of your body and dressing neatly is just as important as having a stellar portfolio.
I've just gone through a court battle against a tall, handsome,charming man who has gone through his life commiting many horrible things but has gotten away with most of them. It is like he is covered in Teflon.
Idk. I've also seen the opposite happen. People would naturally assume someone who is pretty is way less capable and intelligent before even getting to know them. Maybe nowadays people are more aware of the halo effect and (un) consciously reject those who are considered beautiful, especially woman in the corporate world. I think it can go both ways
I think you're ignoring a confounding variable here. People would naturally assume that some *woman* who is pretty is way less capable and intelligent.
I think that is sexism. A woman perceived as lesser pretty, might be related to being seen as less of a woman, and hence, if people believe so, less stupid. I don't think they think about halo effect.
I wont lie, and I feel bad for this girl at my work, she’s autistic, short, fat and just straight up unpleasant to look at. People pick on her all the time and I feel bad for her. I also have autism and I do some of the same things as her and I get treated so much better, I’m 6’2 with a decent face and people just naturally get along with me. The majority of my female co workers laugh if I stick a drive thru number on their arm at the window, hell sometimes I throw the crumpled up numbers at them and they just laugh about it(not all of them but most of them including managers). I’m also described by most people I meet ss really charismatic even if I’m still awkward. I’ll take the hat off a couple of their heads and they laugh and do it back. I’m by no means a Chad but it’s kinda crazy.
As a person who sometimes people considered me as beautiful in my local country, people met me shared their private story so easily when in fact I'm not too good in keep secret.
I've been somewhat aware if this quite some time without really knowing what it was called. Due to this, i often end up judging people's personalities and behavour. It may not be perfect, but it's been a somewhat suitable replacement to the halo effekt in my life.
Thinking about this... this may be extreme, but what if everyone wears the exact same mask? So any outliers in appearance would no longer be a factor. and to top it off, even their voices are to be filtered. What would potentially happen? would this finally level the playing field for all?
A very good story and personal experience of the halo effect would be when I had previously studied and attempted to become a physical therapist, I had received many compliments from my math teacher, and fellow students who'd surrounded me at the time. The compliments I had received were mainly on my attractive appearance and how I would be and look after what I had experienced earlier, in the county I had resided in before my attempt at PT in college.
Tall and strong people often get rejected at office jobs because people often think they are the archetype of "Brutus" big but dumb, even though they might be very capable of a lot of things...
This is almost 110% perfectly true. I used to be really fat but then I lost a lot of weight like 115 pounds of weight and now I am handsome. The effect is absolutely hilarious.
So interesting! I feel as if there’s too many variables to say that students made worse grades online than in the classroom due to the halo effect, but there are some great points here. I feel like to a certain extent, this is definitely the case . However, unless your doctor was demigod level attractive, they probably worked very hard to get where they are. You’re probably safe trusting their accolades rather than their looks 👍🤝
This is true for sure, I used to be fat and not know how to style myself and I’m now thin and fit the beauty standard and everyone treats me nice when my hair, face and clothes look neat + see me as usually being more socially high standing even when I’m significantly lower socially standing or the same, I’m a waitress in college and most ppl tell me I look like I belong in a fine dining place and reseat me as if I am intelligent but treat my less attractive coworker who doesn’t dress to flatter, does her job better than me bc I’m brand new and she’s worked for years and has more manly ways of acting like she’s a ditz high school dropout and even her first impression of me was “you seem like you belong working in fancier places” even tho it was rlly my first waitress job
I use this to my advantage. Dress nicely, do my hair up, and paint my nails when I know I want to be approached in a social setting. On days where I dont want to talk to anyone, I leave my hair messy, put on sweats and a t shirt, and it's a natural people-repellant.
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"Downvoted for stupid conclusion. The impact from beauty is fairly minimal. It makes much more sense to discriminate on the basis of race (against Blacks in the US) and sex (against women in men-majority industries such as tech and finance). Beauty is too weak a signal."
@A H Could u :) haha
0:14 The guy on the right looks crazy while the guy on the left looks like a serial killer so if I had to pick one I would pick the guy on the right otherwise I’m saying neither
for me I feel the opposite I don’t trust perfect looking people I get suspicious on perfect looking people
Not gonna lie, the judgment that we make because of halo effect really could affect someone in their job, school or making friend
You are totally right even tho different circumstances require different theories. Specially Pygmalion effect really changed the way I’m looking at our society.
I think the most scary part is that this is something we normally do without noticing
Most woman chooses tall guys because of halo effect of 🐛
However shorter guys can have longer 🥒
Im an atheist and it disturbs me how many people still gets fooled by this effect. This just proves that people havent really learned anything in the bible. I mean seriously, lucifer is one of their God's most beautiful creation and look what happened.
I felt this effect during my school years, senior high school were the hard one. Below average, not smart, not rich, and not good looking, felt like 3rd world student that just always getting things wrong. But I excel a lot when I got into college, because once you start to roll into college, you start to think with your brain, brain can make up what appearance cannot. I truly hate my school years after all, waste of time for me.
It's true. When I was younger, I had acne, glasses and a hairstyle that didn't match my features. My posture was very bad, my walking lacked confidence, my outfits embarassing. I'd then change all of this, and people became a lot nicer. Just yesterday I was very tired, so I took a walk outside to buy some groceries. I replaced my elegant, neat clothes with an old, ragged sweatshirt and some pants that looked awful on me. My hair was a bit messy, my posture - hunched. I actually looked like a homeless person. I was amazed at how badly everyone treated or looked at me. Returned home still shocked. Then saw myself in the mirror and had an "Wait a minute" moment.
A "wait a minute" moment*
@@teoguurrrlll7689 it sucks
@@R2D-Escanor7 It certainly does.
uhmm all superficial facade though. im aiming for a personal vibe which doesnt require me to avail those expensive clothing just to appear a certain way. im more wanting myself to appear nakedly beautiful not because of the gloss i cover myself with but true 'inner beauty' ( and sorry for the jargon but its still true and that term is timeless) because at the end of the day, you are your body not your clothes or cover ups.
@@jJust_NO_ you don't need expensive outfits to look neat and clean, to have good hygiene or combed hair. Straight posture and good walking are all free, as far as I know. And the fact that I wear elegant clothes on a daily basis it's not something I call superficial. It matches my energy.
There are expensive sweatshirts as well as cheap dresses. I haven't mentioned, for one brief second, money.
The inner beauty you're talking about is reflected in one's body language and appearance.
When my wife worked behind a counter selling memberships, she seemed more successful while wearing a mask, and suspects this was because customers couldn't see her crooked teeth. This may not be exactly what this video is about but seems to correlate the idea that people simply favor attractive people even when it comes to choosing whether or not to buy something.
I think you make the point out better than the video does.
That's why the cashiers and secretaries are chosen to be good looking!
yes!!
@@matteroffact4078 and air hostess too brother .
In Japan crooked teeth are seen as cuteness
I don't think it's bad at all personally either. Might be more cute sometimes! I'm sure you have a gorgeous wife brotha
What we see as beauty are signs of health. Simetry and good proportions tell of good genes. Fitness and neatness tell of good habits. Healthy people tend to be more capable by default, so we are hardcoded to expect as such. But in a world with so many people, variations to the norm become common and social trends lead to hollow beautiful people too often
Very correct.
No it's not sign of good genes, it's sign of averaged porcelain doll ( genes of mediocre quality).
Most beautiful people always vibrate energy in action. Average people only dully shining in appearance.
Very well said!
Good looks don't gaurntee good health or intelligence. Many models who look good and workout are quite dumb.
@@someone-es5zo see my last sentence. Also, notice the words "tell" and "tend"
But by blindly picking the non-halo candidate you are still making decisions based solely on a person's outward appearance.
Exactly I get it’s a suggestion but I think it can be harmful
Maybe it’s my doubts / imposter syndrome but I feel the same way being 6’4 and havin been told throughout life I have good bone structure idk what to believe regarding others perceptions and I don’t think I really ought to. If I was uglier or not as handsome I’d get the attractive vs sexual harassment treatment. It sucks that everyone’s so superficial but I’d be lying if I said I am not DEFINITELY superficial.
I will rant a bit I suppose, and are these standards I have fatphobic, homophobic or excuses through a culture or religion that stemmed from those thoughts? Stripping all that outside flutter away it all becomes meaningless. Every person I see believes they’re the main character as much as I do. A lot/ every individual will/ can feel like they’re against the world/ being watched by it when they’re doing the same. How does one fight against these practices besides confronting em n their roots? A lot of this is trivial @ the end and to what does that benefit us I’m bored n finished
i would just flip a coin
but it changes the odds since it can easily be assumed that 9 out of 10 people would have been influenced by the halo affect meaning they were less compotent
We cannot deny the truth that we all are under the halo effect. Since childhood we all had been seeing in the movies heros are always good looking, bad people always look bad.
Just so you know, superhero stories are far more complex than you may think, this very issue has also been dived into, to put an example, many girls may seem Peter Parker is cute, though in the real world he would be treated badly just as the comics depict it, he is handsome after all, though the thing is, he has heart, superhero stories eventually have the heroes face things of all sorts of topics, especially from sides many may see controversial while still exploring all perspectives before trying to figure out objective truth to a solution, that’s a well written story, anyhow superheroes are meant to eventually deal with the horrors of their society and even all sorts of disturbing topics. The Halo effect is something that is depicted in the stories of heroes, often with the very villains they go up against.
@@alexanderavila8934 I'm sorry I didn't understand you very well. Why exactly wouldn't girls like superheroes if they tackle problems and find solutions? Unless most problems are caused by girls...
Super villains are relatable. The hero always overcomes and is always handsome. In reality a handsome nerd would have it better then an ugly nerd
It's the exact opposite for me. If they are attractive I don't trust them. Ugly people empathize better with ugly people. Attractive people don't care. The same goes for nurses or doctors who are chicks. I prefer an ugly male doctor over a female doctor or nurse. An ugly male doctor may empathize better than a female doctor who after doing an exam goes in the back and body shames you. Myth 1 Women are kind and nurtering. Reality women body shame men and bully men for not looking objectively attractive and the same goes for dudes who fit in and look the same
Which is why I love story like Berserk where the villain is seen as good guy, beautiful and "the chosen one" while the hero is is a random guy where almost everyone hate him. It's a deconstruction of fantasy story.
“It is amazing how complete is the delusion that beauty is goodness”
~ Leo Tolstoy
beauty does not mean anything
@@ay-tj7pj 😇 it does but not everything
Takeaway from this: Get fit, look good, dress well. These things are all superficial but we can’t deny that they afford us an advantage in all aspects of life
I hate how easy it is for you to say "get fit, look good"
As someone who wasn't genetically gifted, I'm fukin jealous of people who can change themselves by changing lifestyles. There's nothing I can do but for surgery or smth. I'm not facially pretty but I AM intellectually gifted and it takes so much effort to prove myself cuz i don't "look like it"
@@lirakaruta8026
You don’t have to be genetically gifted to get fit. Of course people who are genetically gifted will have the advantage, and people who are seriously disabled may find it impossible. But if you are just a person with an average or below average physique, there’s no reason not to work on yourself to become better than you were yesterday. I have no clue what your situation is so I’m not going to try and make any judgement calls on you, but I will say that I’ve seen a lot of overweight or obese people who have “tried everything” to lose weight (except proper diet and exercise)
@@lirakaruta8026 they said get fit, not be thin/slim/underweight. You get fit by exercising, which I think nobody can do while in the womb, nobody can exercise while they were just born either. Nobody is born with a lifetime's worth of exercise. Also by look good it could simply mean comb your hair, iron your clothes. Choose clothes that fit you, preferably one that compliments your figure. If you're a dude maybe you can shave or something. All those takes effort, you cannot be born with those. Whether you do it or not shows how much effort you'd bother to put in
@@kurzjames i have a hot body. I DO work out. I even get treated nicely by people with my mask on. It's only when i have it off is when i can feel the difference. I almost never take it off in social situations. No matter how much i work out, the facial structure is not something i can change. It's not v "feminine" and pretty and there's nothing I can do about it
@@kittenmimi5326 i can't tag two ppl at a time T-T
If our eyes could see the soul our definition of beauty would change
Very quotable…is that your own?
@@srhodes6963 No, but I can’t remember where I heard it from
@@fearless_galaxy well thanks for putting it out there
Wasn't this the plot of Shallow Hal?
Damn i aint showin my soul to anybody... Ill be charged for assault..
I discovered this same phenomenon while I was studying Argentine Tango - the best-looking dancers were highly sought after as partners, but they actually turned out to be the WORST dancers. The handsome/beautiful dancers relied upon their appearance to earn invitations to dance (or acceptances from their invitees), whereas the less-appealing in appearance dancers - knowing they were at a disadvantage because of their lack of physical beauty/good looks - would work three times harder to learn this difficult dance. Also, the best-looking ones were the most likely to “hit on” their partners rather than focusing on the beauty of their dancing, preferring to use dancing as a way to find sex partners rather than actual dance partners. The less attractive dancers - perhaps sensing that they had “no chance” in the sex department - would focus on their dance technique and developing friendships within the community. These friendships sometimes ripened into lasting romances, as opposed to the “one night stands” preferred by the more attractive. After years of observation, I came to the conclusion that it paid to select dance partners on the basis of their actual abilities, and to give preference to the less conventionally attractive. I got to dance with better partners, which made me a better dancer. I also found that this same trend extrapolated to dating as well. The best looking people were the worst jerks. The less attractive individuals were much kinder and far more interesting to be with.
Excellent, well explained, analysis. I can see the truth, and reasonableness, in each of your points. Thank you.
the spotlight effect beautiful people get often lead them to develop crippling anxiety which kills their drive and capacity to excell at certain field. sometimes being anonymous makes you expand your vision thus your horizon. theres no cowering tendencies when you are not being looked at and examined. youre free to explore, express and discover
Yeah, generally what comes easy go away easy too... So while beauty makes an easier life, the person will have so many followers obsessed by their appearance that they wouldn't feel the need to be attached for life with only one person... They're receiving attention from too many, so they'll be always finding new of what they think it's " interesting " people in the middle of those obsessing about their looks.
This is again, a generalization. Not everyone who is beautiful is just that, there are superficial ugly people and deep pretty ones too
It’s funny cause my experiences are the opposite. It’s always the least attractive people who have the worst attitudes. It think it’s from self-hate
Pretty privilege is definitely real
so is smart privilege, rich family privilege, tall privilege, longevity privilege, or any other DNA privilege. They are all real. I'm sometimes surprised that some people would think pretty privilege is the exception and is not real.
@@kanck7909 most dna priviledges are not readily apparent or even important in a grandiose sense. As an example; yeah, you might have some cold resistance if you are form northern countries but nobody cares cause they are either there living with you, having the same resistance or they are elsewhere, at a place where it doesn't matter.
longevity priviledge means almost nothing without youth. At best you'll get more time with your grandkids or sth but even that doesn't matter (to you) cause had you died earlier, you wouldn't have cared since if your spirit carries on it's detached from a single lifetime or if you cease to exist, you don't care at all.
Smart priviledge means nothing if you've been abused and your confidence is dogshit or if every single obstance presents itself to you cause your talent is for some niche domain of intellect you can't access in a random globally irrelevant country. Bonus points for the fact that you still have to work to aquire info necessary for the full flourishing of your intellect, which takes time.
Rich family priviledge, being tall and being good looking all give you immediate impact without any semblance of preparation needed. If you are rich, you have every material thing/experience you want right then and there with minimal downtime from stuff like traveling. You can even overtake smart people in getting degrees by paying for them, sure it's not the real deal, but you still got it in the eyes of society. You can also overtake naturaly long living individuals by getting access to better food, more free time for self care activities, access to new tech etc
Being good looking and/or tall gives you immediate street cred without effort so long as you are not immensely abused. The street cred can be in many domains, from instant consideration as a potential mate, to "free" money by way of modeling opportunities, sports opportunities etc to general respect and avoidance of conflict with you.
It depends on person to person because not all people are shallow.
@@kanck7909 pretty privilege is real it's just so common it became the norm
There's a latin novel where all characters are blind, y'all voches need to read that
This is literally what my mom did when she got married. I'm from India and the people here weren't yet as progressive and open minded few years back as they are today, arranged marriages was the accepted social norm to get married wherein the groom/bride's parents seek out a partner for their son/daughter. My mom was really brainy and also really good looking so her parents easily found a lot of matches for her who were also pretty handsome and earned well, and then there was my dad who was a doctor but was not really a looker, quite the opposite actually. My grandparents and other relatives tried to convince my mom to marry this guy who had a job in finance and was was known by them quite well and was also really smart and outgoing and handsome and stuff but my mom chose my dad for some or the other reason,who was a from a different state, different part of the country, with a different culture who according to some of her relatives looked like a 'cockroach' at that time. 6 months after her marriage she learnt from her relatives that the first guy was discovered to be have started having affairs with multiple women after he started hitting rough patches in his job and whatnot. My parents have been married for 20 years now and she's glad she used her head to make this decision that day, she's in a nice house with a husband that cudnt have asked for a better wife, and a son who's going to college this year
Glad to hear your story
You from South India?
such a lovely story, thanks for sharing it with us♥️
My goodness! This is so sweet.
I have noticed people's reaction to me to be so helpful, friendly and positive. One year I had an injury and gained some weight, then noticed a huge disconnect in the way others responded. I healed, got fit again, and people went right back to treating me better than well. Maybe this is just nature. I go way out of my way to be extra kind to those who might be seen as "ugly".
I get it!
In my opinion, it's near to impossible to avoid getting fooled by the halo effect, unless... it works the other way around. For instance, imagine you meet a new person, but at first you dislike their appearance. In a matter of months, as you get to know them better, you'll likely shift your point of view, and begin to appreciate their traits more. And, at some point, you might just end up falling in love with them!
That's the exposure effect.
@@yusefalcamachi1562 Oh cool, didn't know that, thanks 👍🏻
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Nah, it just proves that people havent really learned anything in the bible and those "religious" christians that you know turns out just to be the biggest bible verse cherry picker of them all. I mean seriously, it literally said in their little book that lucifer was the most beautiful of Gods creation and look what happened....
Not everybody will be that patient and open-minded.
I agree that this is prevalent. However, I've met a ton of good looking people who are not smart, and I think maybe that role of "good looking person" from childhood on made them focus less on important things that can help you become smarter.And I've also seen smart good looking women treated poorly at work or school...like they aren't smart. We need to be better about our preconceived notions.
Meeting tons of good looking people who are not smart isn't surprising because a ton of people in general aren't smart.
At work OR school? Which one is it? If you've really seen this first-hand, why the "or"?
Inherently good looking people tend to have a lot more distractions in their life during the critical 13 ~ 30 yrs. old stage where it's the best if not the only time to build the foundations for complex knowledge, artificially good looking people are pretty much distracted by default, so it's never out of the ordinary to find people who have more intellectual achievement are not interesting to look at.
If you go to places where students are tiered by school at young age such as Japan or China, you probably will see the high tier school are filled with plain looking students and low tier schools filled with total babes. Just the way the society works that's all.
Chinese people have this old saying: "Rad face, thin life" (紅顏薄命), that means good looking lady has a tendency to end up with a tragic life, it's at least something worth thinking about.
And then there are many women who are expected to be dumb because they look good, and dress smart.
@@holmiumh Your logic is flawed. Less good looking people tend to expend more of their effort to gain that level of social outcome just given to attractive people, so attractive people can much more easily choose to focus on study and still have a strong social life when they take time for it
I’m tardy and handsome but was ugly and fat as a kid and picked on.
I got two coats. One yellow raincoat and one long brown kind of wealthy looking coat. The difference when I wear them is huge. People let me go in front earlier, smile more, look at me more and appear to be kinder when I wear my 'wealthy coat'. When I wear the long yellow raincoat, they tend to not look at me or ignore me more. Appearance is everything
You don't have two coats boy
Very true. I've seen this in school many times, but I also had a conversation with someone who I categorized as "smart" and "hardworking" that I'll never forget that's almost the oppisite.
She told me she hated when people identified her only by her aesthetic features because she was "pretty", so she actually worked twice as hard academically. I was surprised because I never thought of her genetic gifts as her most noticeable trait, but her ambition. When I thought about it though, I realized when was very pretty visually. She said it was good I didn't realize because it meant she was succeeding at being remembered for something else other than her looks. She was crazy smart, what a gem.
I experienced it myself. I started working as a waitress in a restaurant, and I noticed how customers were specifically nicer to one of my colleagues. After a while, I realized that's because she's pretty. So I started wearing make-up before going to work, just to see if that would make a difference. People were acting so differently ! Customers would spend more time chit-chatting, giving more tips, even my boss was nicer to me. So I kept the habit to wear make-up at work and it really affected my job experience.
The halo effect is a mental heuristic. It would be too mentally taxing for people to do 100% of their thinking rationally and methodically, so we naturally take mental shortcuts. One reason those shortcuts stay around is that they are right most of the time. The average person can very easily tell with a glance that they are in a dangerous area or around dangerous people even if they can't put their finger on why. In the same way, probably 70% of physical attractiveness involves body composition, grooming, dressing, and the presence of body modifications like tattoos and piercings, all of which are directly under the control of the individual. If we meet someone who is physically fit, well groomed, well dressed, and not covered in tattoos and piercings we instantly know a lot about them that is not necessarily independent of their performance in other areas.
In my experience it's true. I remember when I was in college I was pretty good looking, but I had piercings, wore rocker clothing, and had long hair. My female teachers hated me and would show a radical change in semblance when I walked in. I There was another dude that went to classes looking like the typical guy that never missed the Sunday mass would always get a point or two ahead of me. On several occasions, I had the chance to compare both of our exams and was outraged to see that my answers were better and more elaborate, from that day I knew the game. The next semester I started dressing as him and guess what, my scores improved and the same teachers started treating me better, right away, I didn't change my study habits, they were good enough, but just looking like a catholic boy makes the conservative teachers like you better. Those fucking bitches... Long story short, play the teachers game if you want better scores, but remember that scores don't matter that much outside the building.
That’s hilarious because they probably genuinely thought you ‘atoned for your sins’ and became a good catholic boy
In a way it kinda worked
What college did you go to? The opposite was true at mine. I couldn't wear my ties or suits without teachers thinking I was "priveleged".
That form of grading is horrible. The way you dress doesn't look Christian but I know that a true Christian doesn't have to simply look like one. Many false Christians dress up appearing as the traditional real Christian. As long as you live by the Bible and accept God into your life, then you're a true Christian
I'm a social person, but I can't lie, the halo and horn effect works have affected me and I've seen it happen all around me, I've seen less attractive people shunned and attractive people chosen as leader even though they're bad at it. I see that less attractive people has less friends than of ones that are attractive, and often they're lonely in class. Attractive people do get shunned to at times but they're mostly rare cases, sometimes because they're an introvert or because they did something "bad" like rat out people that cheated or stuff like that (I realized that we've also normalized the wrong thing that doing the right thing is shunned upon, it's rather a shame. I've seen this firsthand because an incident like this happened in my class, a popular, attractive kid got shunned upon because another kid was sharing midterms answers on the class group chat)
Snitches get stitches. Everyone wants to take the easier and convenient way out, and they'll get mad at people who ruin their opportunities.
(1/2) In India there was a face cream brand named as fair and lovely who depicted in their ads that fair looking people are sucessful in their careers but last year they had to stop this ad and chg their brand name in wake of geroge floyd protests but now i got that their ads were based on truth cause of halo effect existing in society good looking people are "sometimes" favoured a lot in their respective careers.
(2/2) I personally believe that cause of movies this halo effect has became more prevalent in society as they cast only good looking people as protagonists and by this it just made people to preceive that good looking peeps are always all rounder...
This makes me think of an employer I worked for a few years ago. It was a restaurant and I asked a coworker what happened to one of the newer kids on dishwasher because he had been gone. He said the owner took him off the schedule because he wasn’t very good looking. So instead we had an unruly bunch of good looking kids who got high a lot poorly operating the place. I quit it wasn’t worth the frustration. I heard the owners are getting a divorce and the place is going downhill.
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As a doctor .. yes ! It happens everytime!!! Senior professors , nurses, male consultants... They just would see through me ! There was always halo effect around me to everyone ... I was tired proving myself ... So I stopped ! I just gave up. I was always discriminated and picked on.... Only those who worked with me closely enough realised how good I was !
#testimony
As a nurse, I’ve seen too many times short female doctors treated with disrespect, especially if they are not white, native English speakers. Btw I live in Australia. But i automatically have more respect for the consultants who are taller white men. How crazy is that?
@@tommenzie2458 pretty crazy lol 😂 love your honesty tho
The Halo Effect often works in reverse. Envy too often causes some people to go out of their way to place roadblocks in someone's way due to their good looks. Facts!
True!
They're doing their part to restore justice to the universe.
@@credman 😂 This video is proof. The guy suggesting ugly people are more skillful while this really depends on the individuals and not collective
@@morgannine If beautiful people are statistically more likely to gain undeserved success then it's a statistically the best choice to go for the less beautiful person.
Saying it's a case by case basis is stupid as that's not how statistics work. You can't guarantee the less beautiful person is more competent but the chance higher and if you were smart and knew nothing else then the less beautiful person would be the best option.
@@icebox1954 that sounded like discrimination jealousy and bigotry. Human beings are human beings. How they look is ONE part of their whole package. Everyone has different qualifications. Every profession has different requirements. You can't ask an "ugly" person to be cast as some "pretty" historical figure.
All this "pretty hate" seem to be coming from the feeling of defeat "ugly" people get coz of how society treats them. Confidence in your craft matters. We all get old and ugly eventually. Trust that how you look don't at all define your qualifications.
As a scientist/engineer & a pragmatic Theravada Buddhist, I absolutely disagree with your biased ideas.
To some extent yes, we can ignore halo effect when people criticaly and with suspicion judge other people by their actions. It is hard for us to ignore halo effect since we mix healthy looking beatiful people with competence and other qualities to just for reproduction.
To figure out a person's actions you probably need to ask a lot of questions or follow them around for a while. But to figure out a person's looks you only need to glance at them for a second. I can see why the halo effect exists like I mean... you can't have enough time to follow around every single stranger you see
Ooh I always said this... People considered beautiful have an easier life. I understand this can be a natural response, but what I find absurd it's the different treatment people give to others only because of how they look... for me this is very bad and need to change immediately. It's disgusting when people try to humiliate others just because they find they're '' ugly '' not fair at all.
It not about humiliating someone for being ugly but it is more about how people in general unconsiously give better treatment to attractive, better looking people.
It doesn't have to be you worshipping them or kissing their ass at every step but more about smaller, barely noticable ways you would treat someone who is pretty but not someone who you consider ugly or bad looking.
And it is hard to change that because throughout our whole existance as human beings, we have always cherished beauty not matter which one we are talking about.
@@filipradojcic461 It's hard to change, but I'm not like this at all... I don't worship people because of how they look... I treat everybody the same way, no matter how they look. I know what I'm talking about, I always see it happening, and people do try to humiliate someone they think it's ugly, simply because they think they're ugly! And I don't agree we should think this is normal, because I don't behave like that, I don't treat people different just because they look different. Nobody choose how they would look when they came to this world, so why overvalue characteristics that wasn't even chosen by the person? Or humiliate them for the same reason? This sound really weird and unfair for me... It's only appearance...
People call others all types of names for free just because they're considered ugly for them, I saw it many times! I lived it too. So I don't think it's normal. People are people, and should be treated equally...
Thank you for your response, I like to see different opinions! 😊
@@heywatchmeunfold8457 Unfortunately you can't change human nature, people are always going to treat some who they don't find nice to look at differently. And it's not even 100% wrong, if someone is fat and has a circle for a face, they're most likely depressed and lazy and spiteful or whatever, just not nice to talk to. But if there is someone who is fit and has a natural smile on his face, most likely they're happy with their life and friendly and nice to talk to. And if someone is fit, basically everyone will find their face attractive, when you lose fat and gain muscle your face does that too and makes it way more attractive, so for 99.9% of cases. It's not because how they're born.
Ya I’ve literally had people treat me and my problems nonchalantly because they deemed me as “beautiful” so of course I can’t get hurt or have issues
@@heywatchmeunfold8457 Man idk, you can't control your hardwired instincts that much. Like, you can unlearn and relearn learned biases to some extent but not fully
Say if someone asks you the question asked in the beginning of the video again. You would no doubt give the correct answer but was that because of your self-corrected personality or was it you being conscious of your decision because you watched the video before?
Biases are inherently unconscious in nature. If you are aware of it at that moment, your sense of self-respect might cause you to correct your bias (that is, you might feel dirty about feeling badly about an ugly person and then you correct your feeling about them)
Point being that the bias is still there. And it is hard to be conscious of the innumerable psychological biases we all have and correct them at all times, so the end result ends up being that we feel we are neutral (which we might for 10% of the time) when we are still having uncorrected biases the rest of the time. It is worse than being blissfully unaware because atleast that doesn't give an air of confidence about your fair judgement, which trying to correct your bias does.
Long essay short, what I am trying to say is that you can never reign in hardwired biases all the time, it's not your fault, it's just human nature, don't beat yourself up over it. You should just accept that you will be always be biased to some degree and try to correct it if you can but not get too worked up over it 😁
While this is true, choosing people by reversing the halo effect is just as equally beneficial/harmful as not reversing. It is still just a feeling. There is nothing concrete about a person until you spend time with him/her.
Fun fact: In our country we have a saying: "Being ugly is a crime". This goes to show that your appearance actually plays a signficant role in your success. Beautiful people get it easier than the others, and that's just the nature of things.
Interesting! Thanks for sharing.
I think that just being aware of where you rate in the general Beauty spectrum of your Society allows you to better gauge how much effort you're going to have to put in to get the reputation you want. I've noticed a lot just since I've been losing weight I get a lot more discounts and easier to receive assistance from retail workers when I can't find something. My assertive personality traits which have been the same regardless of being fat or thin, do not get as much criticism now that I am lower body weight.
I do feel like this can work backwards too. People I care about or know are smart and capable seem more attractive and beautiful to me. I know I see nearly all my friends as incredibly attractive but when other ppl judge em they’re deemed as average so while appearance can change how someone feels about you, the way someone feels about you can change how they see you too. 😊
Go with the doctor, who can be trusted more. Btw today this seems to make a turn, since every movie is about that pretty girls being mean, and handsome guys being evil. If you are good looking, you get instant hate for that and a ton of compliment from people, who want to benefit from you.
@John Grigg I know right, me and my former partner had recieved many romours, been accused of having venereal diseases (while still virgin) and I was labeled as a spoiled kid, despite wearing regular clothes and having the same outbursts as any teen. While others could scream and shout, when I was not particularly polite, they say pretty harsh things behind my back. Those things were heard by girls, who find me attractive and their sudden change of behavior towards me has showed me that they hear stuff about me. This was not a black and white story, my point is that nothing is like, what it seems. If you are reading this, my advice is to know yourself and always stood up, never let them to pull you back next to themselves. Find your position in life and stick to it.
@@andraspalatinus145 Thats pretty inspirational.
Uh huh, and what about the all the other stories where the protagonists or the good guys are all beautiful? You know, like 99.99999% of all fiction?
@@OmarAli-sg6hf 1. Make a turn = It is changing. 2. Actors are good looking, they mostly just show low self-esteem to make us believe they are not good looking.
Well I usually don't get to choose my doctors when I get to a hospital. But if I could, I would try not to choose the prettier believing the halo effect, neither assume the ugliest worked harder to be a good doctor. Truly experience is completely halo independent, both ways.
Exactly!! This video is BS tbh
@@Nightingale671 "choose the ugly one" lol wtf 😂
Yeah, you look at their qualifications or achievements, try it out and if the doctor doesnt seem to be right for you switch and repeat... I mean isn't it common sense to do it this way?
I think this is true and it’s also true that pretty women get heavily bullied from other women for their appearance and get put in really creepy inappropriate situations with men. There’s give and take.
I'd like to add a generalised caveat to that - pretty women are either kind hearted/gentle and are bullied by other women OR they are kind hard nosed/tough and play the game/ bully other women right back.
Ofc this is a generalisation and there's a middle ground in there somewhere, but these are the most common scenarios imo.
Frankly I have never seen a beautiful person being bullied because they are beautiful. Either men or women… beautiful people are generally the popular ones and they often run the show. Also because often beautiful people are also from families with good financial incomes. Often enough beauty and money go together, and both are strong ingredients of the halo effect.
*ugly women
@@An-lh3ox I've seen it many times. I've also seen some very beautiful people grow up as outcasts. Some of the richest people are not good looking, while some people who have basically nothing are very attractive. You deal with the hand you are dealt.
@@An-lh3ox It happens a lot more than you can imagine. Most of these bullies are jealous toxic women. I speak for a friend. She’s really, really pretty, which (for some reason) led to her female co-workers to hate her. They speak nasty stuff about her behind her back, give her very judgmental looks, laugh at her mistakes... It’s all so toxic and negative. (However, she’s pretty chill with all the male co-workers.)
She shared her story on her private and many other girls told her they had a similar experience!! And it’s always the girls who are less attractive than them that do the bullying.
0:07 I would trust the man on the right of course because he is old which means he has alot more experience and his smile is just warm and calming
As a person who's way too lucky in grades and stuff.... Now I know why I've always got higher grades than people who've actually studied. Either because I'm friendlier to teachers than my friends are or because of the halo effect, or maybe a little bit of both.
I would think they feed on each other. If you are treated well by your teachers, then it is easier to be friendly towards them. If you are less attractive, then the teachers make you work harder, and are more harsh in their judgement. Thus not having such a positive opinion of them, and not willing to be as friendly towards them.
@@toddfraser3353 American schools seem horrible, if you answer the question correctly you get 100 if you didn't answer correctly you get 0 , professors only grade based on accuracy and knowledge at least outside the US it seems
@@SieMiezekatze This is fine if you just take multiple choice. However, when grading an Essay then there is more leeway to how things can be graded. Also if a student just decides to ask for more help. The favored student will get more attention. The better looking kid will often get more effort, than the homely kid. Teaching in any country isn't an exact science, and emotional bias can help or harm individuals.
@@toddfraser3353 I really don't think it affects grades that much unless your teacher is really taking things personal. You have to remember that teachers are probably sitting at home/office and staring at a fat stack of papers to grade, the last thing they're going to be thinking about is the looks of their student. However I do agree with you when students ask for help, when there is actual face to face interpersonal communication, looks can definitely be a factor on how recipient someone is to what you say.
Not only the common public, but even the professors tutoring the medical residents can also come under the "halo effect".
The most interesting people I know where never the most attractive to me. What made them interesting was their level of knowledge, personality, and style. I imagine this is because they did indeed have to work harder for the recognition attractive people where given for far less. Being an extremely attractive person myself I know often I’m undeserving of some of the privileges I’ve received in my life. So I don’t find this information hard to believe. But hey what do I know? I’m just a extremely attractive man who never had to work for anything in life ❤
You're accumulating bad karma from your narcissism and selfishness. I suggest you tread carefully, your next life may not be so lavish. Try to live your life in accordance with dharma.
self glazing is wild☠
Impossible to ignore, even if you try. At worst you go into the absolute oposite and you rate ugly people better than good looking ones out of spite, but that does not do the good looking but yet qualified people just, and also not the unqualified ugly people.
But as I said: We can't stop letting it influence us, even if we try not to.
My grandfather always said, "if you have the choice between barbers. One has a good haircut and the other has a really bad haircut pick the one with the bad cut. The one with the good cut probably got his haircut by that guy and vice versa"
In the first two set of characters I'd argue the 2nd guy (older, glasses scraggly) looks more like a genius scientist who you'd want working on you. While the 1st guy (pretty boy) seems like he might do well on Tinder but you wouldn't want to give him a scalpel. So I thought that was an odd example because, again, depends on the situation. I think if anything the older/uglier doctor generally has the halo effect as it pertains to surgery. And I think most people would agree actually, so while the video makes a point it seems almost backwards in it's example.
Good point
That was my exact thought.
Still is the halo effect, so I'm just agreeing with you
It's not like you usually get the choice of who operates on you, though. It will be the surgeon who is free on the day you're scheduled. Unless you have the choice of hospitals beforehand, but certainly not when it's an emergency thing.
@John Grigg *nods*
Idk there are some good looking people with a not so inviting aura or presence..but there are average to below average people with an upbeat or positive energy around them... i think for me it's the outwards energy that they project rather than the simple outside appearance (or vice versa) that affects my judgement..
Congrats, you're shifting your vibrational frequency. While others who judge simply off of looks alone are stuck in a low vibrational frequency.
I think a lot about stuff like this.
"Why do some people seem to have everything going for them ?"
While the beauty bias could be considered unfair in most cases, I would argue that being treated nicely creates for people a positive "life view" which creates a virtuous circle of abondance.
If the world treats you like a friend and a worthy human being, you go on treating the world as such and I suspect it solidifies/amplifies the halo effect.
We like positive people who are comfortable in their own skins. It's harder to attain for some, but I feel it's still within reach for anyone.
If all else fails, wisdom can get you there.
Or it fosters a toxic naïveté (picture white people thinking racism is over lol)
That's what's called the pigmalion effect.
When someone is treated well by others, it causes them to feel more confident, optimistic and motivated, creating a loop where good treatment brings acomplishment, which brings good treatment and so on.
Also Matthew effect.
I imagine very attractive people think they’re funnier and more interesting than they actually are. Not their fault, just the fawning of others.
I experienced this first hand. I was short and skinny and most people found me unattractive. But after high school, I started working out and grew taller, started to look better overall and the amount of respect and people willing to interact with me shot upwards from men and women
i've noticed that sometimes really good looking men /become/ relaxed, kind people. they get warm attention and friendship and non-judgement, which makes them more relaxed and confident, which gets them even more warm attention, and so on in a kind of fortunate upwards spiral.
This is true since I’m a people who always choose self improvement, nowadays I’m look really good comparing with average, and people tend to come to me more frequently than before. Also some people I have relationship for long time period, look at me different than years before ~ in a positive way.
A similar effect is called, "the Placebo effect". It is mostly refered to medicine, but you could also see it in restaurants. A food with higher prices sometimes tastes better than lower prices even if the ingredients are the same. We believe that the quality and techniques of making the food would also be higher.
In relation to the Halo and Horn effect, we'll feel or evaluate good looking/higher valued items than lower ones.
The interesting thing is that Placebo effect might be unreliable, but still works at times.
I try to find one beautiful thing in everyone. Usually what I find the most beautiful is a genuine smile. A genuine smile makes me smile too.
Nature is brutal. So too is human nature.
I’m really pretty and my whole life people have often assumed that I lack intelligence before really getting to know me and so they are often shocked when I start ranting about a really niche and complex topic.
Not to mention I’ve always been really good at styling clothes and outfits and I carry myself well, so people often assume that I’m financially well off. I’ve even been called privileged and if anyone took the time to know me, they’d realize that it’s really unwise to make assumptions about people.
Judgment goes every which way.
Thanks
Weird flex but ok mr gigachad
Lmao you Out Here farming victim Points with that Story?😂
What a joke
@@BananaRama1312 I was only sharing my experience. You think this is about victimizing is just you projecting because you yourself cannot share your experience without feeling that it's a sad story or gaining pity. When in reality it's very easy to share ones experience without expecting sympathy. If you can't relate, then piss off and have a nice a day 🙂
Since getting my nose done, people have been responding to me better because it has made me look younger and more refined. I still look like my ethnic group so what I was experiencing before wasn't racism at all, just unfamiliarity with ethnic quirks.
Maybe you are simply excuding more self confidence and that is what people are responding to….
What if you're actually deceiving yourself? Maybe nobody really cared what your nose look like, or if it changed at all. But before your nose job you might have been unconfident, walk with a slumped posture, stressed, push people away. Now you are more confident, friendly and ACT (not look) refined...
Because tbh I don't think such a minor difference as nose actually impact anything that much lol
I think it’s hard to avoid influence by the halo effect even (indirectly) even once you are aware of it because almost every where the haloed people have already benefited from it, so for example a haloed person is more likely to successfully complete and be given all the gifts and benefits necessary to become a specialist to become the type of doctor you need to see than a horned person, I don’t know about you but I have never even had the option to see an unattractive specialist doctor, as demonstrated in the animation.
Unfortunately, you also see that those who find themselves
‘Not good looking / attractive enough’ can also have really horrible and insecure personalities. They might like to drag everyone down
Entire video can be summarized in "How to battle bias? Just be bias in other way!"
The Halo effect cannot be avoided. We tend to be nicer to beautiful people and avoid the ugly ones. i think our society works somehow like this. Beautiful people are the ones given the spotlight, the average people support/admire them and the ugly ones are neglected...
This is so unfair .. wish we could look through someone's soul than their face :(
Based on my experience, you and I could look at someone and see completely different things. I could see someone beautiful and you see someone ugly.
I believe the halo effect sometimes works in the opposite direction as regards brilliance. Every teacher I’ve had on first meeting me assumed I was unintelligent because I am good-looking. This affected me for the longest time until I shook it off.
Are you blonde by any chance
Thank you for putting a name to this. I've seen it with other people most of my life. Now I have the words. Thank you.
this term has existed for a while. they just explained it
The halo and horn effects are not things to ignore, but rather things to be hyper aware of.
Like the example with the doctors, to ignore the halo effect would be to assume that both doctors are truly equal, rather than favoring the handsome doctor.
But when you take the halo effect into account, you realize the ugly doctor is likely better at his job due to achieving the same rank without the advantage of the halo effect that the attractive doctor has.
Or rather, achieving the same rank with the handicap of a horn effect.
With that information, one is able to consider the illogical biases of others in order to come to a more objective understanding.
Especially in this age of influencers and social media, it can be paramount to understand how people may be down right deceptive with their appearance.
All manner of confusion can be cleared up with the wisdom that people and things are not always what they appear to be.
Looks = personality. good looks = smart and friendly, ugly = unfriendly, creepy, dumb
I actually looked pretty bad in school and university, but i never felt any disadvantage. The key here is to be kind, calm and adequate
When you’re at a disadvantage, you try to make up for it. It can be anything from hand-eye coordination to spelling skills and even something mundane like listening to instructions. We’re hardwired to make the best of what we got and make up for what we don’t. If you seemed unappealing to a person of interest eyes, then you would probably be doing something to appear more approachable and desirable. It all depends on what we are bred to believe; one of us may value strength in anger and outgoing life, whilst someone else considers that being reserved and mysterious is much more critical. So if beauty is going to be a thing that determines someone’s initial opinion of you, if you want them to like you, your going to be the most charming person you can be to earn that affection.
You’d think more people would be better because of this way of life, but alas, when life is easier for you, become soft in the head and stop trying as hard. Because you believe things are just that easy.
This is so true, I remember when a few years ago while I was doing an internship, it was me and another girl competing for the position to be hired after the internship period ended, I remember being very mediocre, doing nothing more than the minimum and she was always super hard-working, staying late many times, and when the day came to choose who was going to be promoted, my boss came to me to ask if I wanted the position, and I was honest, I said that I didn't think I deserved it more than the other girl who was doing her best. This situation was definitely the "unfair privileges" related to appearance that often happen
I know this to be the case as I have witnessed it occcuring to others. As for me I once had a potential employer's manager confess to me I did not get the job because of my name. I've always been thankful they skipped me. If they are that superficial with those whom they employ, how are they in business prctices and reputation?
Is your name really Mike Nixon or is it something offensive in nature?
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I remember a specific event where I my vision of others suffered a halo effect. For me, I held online artists in a spotlight. When I saw someone with what I considered great art skills, I assumed they were more friendly, more likely to make new friends. Maybe even their life was more in order than those without skills. Anyways, it was something I couldn't shake through my time online, and eventually I took a hiatus from that platform. I'm glad I could realize the halo effect in my life, so I could continue talking to others without prejudice.
It is impossible to ignore the halo effect. All we can do it to be aware that we and everybody else is influenced by this. Then we can decide based on the situation if we should actively work against it, or not.
This effect is everywhere. It's like nature intended. The best ones get ahead and pass on their genes.
The Halo effect is real!
I knew a pretty English tutor before who was a consistent top earner at work because she gets more bookings than others (20+ per day)-- even when, at some point, she cannot converse very well using the language and is not very good at grammar-- these should be important since she is teaching English.
On the other hand, there was another English tutor who is very good pedagogically at teaching English, is patient, and has good classroom management; yet he only gets few bookings (around 5-8 a day). Unfortunately, three of his students (who booked randomly) filed a complaint with the remark:
"The teacher is ugly", and the like. This teacher is dark-skinned, and is on the chubby side of the chart.
The complaints affected his teaching record and he got fewer students than before, sometimes, none, and he has more mouths to feed. 😢
**I wanted to assume that the incidents were influenced by gender preference, but the company actually wished to hire more male than female tutors as per parents' request.
Therefore, the story shared above is surely an example of the "Halo Effect".
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Halo effect is only applicable to narcissist who are obsessed with looks. Moral people with character don't judge based on looks. Also, how do you explain all the beautiful women killed out of envy or jealousy? And beautiful women not taken seriously at their job?
I love the art style and how you teach thank god that there are actually non-corrupt studies out there.
As an ugly person, knowing about the halo and horns effect has gradually allowed me to develop tools to combat it within myself. However, even with this knowledge it was only being stung/hurt a few times by beautiful people (and coming to terms with that pain - so that it wasn't simple bitterness) that the lesson was truly hammered in; the main problem now is when it comes to people I, specifically, am interested in - which is not just a matter of beauty.
I've seen this in the history field as well, online there are blogs dedicated to "historical crushes" where you can submit historical people you have a crush on. Always the more attractive figures get more likes and attention while the "ugly" figures get way less, even resulting in one blog banning "unattractive" people. Someone could say they think young Stalin was attractive and people will agree with him despite him being a ruthless dictator and parent, but if someone calls de Gaulle attractive then they're branded as a weirdo despite de Gaulle being a courageous leader and good father. It saddens me because history doesn't run on pretty faces but great people instead.
It's really effective my best friend is a mean person but he get treated like a king and has a lot of friends and girls have a crush on him just because he's attractive but I'm the opposite of him maybe I'm hideous but I'm a really nice and kind person people get away from me and avoide me and when they get to know me they always say " I thought you were mean" or something like that it's really sad that people judge each other based on their faces but what can we do?, It's part of our nature
Sad to know...i am trying be more empathy with all people and i love the introvert and shy. I love ao nerd and special they can be 😉
It’s also about being charismatic. We do also have social skills after all. If those two people really is equally qualified, then it doesn’t matter how they look. When it’s about work then someone could be as good at the job as someone else, but not a good coworker. There’s also the question about cheating for the different tests. Someone might be able to physically see someone else’s paper, while someone else just got someone else to take the test on computer because who would know anyway. And at last, you don’t mind this being a thing if/when it benefits you.
I think that if we judge after, if someone is in good shape then the halo effect isn’t bad, but if we judge after the appearance they are born with, then it’s bad.
There is a webtoon called "Lookism" which basically revolves about this concept
I think certain kinds of attractiveness signals that someone takes good care of themselves, and when it comes to medical professionals if they take good care of themselves, we trust them to take good care of us perhaps. No one wants a dentist with dark yellow teeth for instance just because it’s a subconscious thing. None of us can control our bone structure, but I think posture, ani e haircut, and dressing for your body type can still have a positive subconscious affect on others
I don’t know if I agree. People who are highly intelligent and ambitious USUALLY make the correlation that taking care of your body and dressing neatly is just as important as having a stellar portfolio.
I have come to distrust people who go out of their way to look impressive, it's usually facade....
This is the Age of the Facade.
I've just gone through a court battle against a tall, handsome,charming man who has gone through his life commiting many horrible things but has gotten away with most of them. It is like he is covered in Teflon.
Idk. I've also seen the opposite happen. People would naturally assume someone who is pretty is way less capable and intelligent before even getting to know them. Maybe nowadays people are more aware of the halo effect and (un) consciously reject those who are considered beautiful, especially woman in the corporate world. I think it can go both ways
I think you're ignoring a confounding variable here. People would naturally assume that some *woman* who is pretty is way less capable and intelligent.
I think that is sexism. A woman perceived as lesser pretty, might be related to being seen as less of a woman, and hence, if people believe so, less stupid. I don't think they think about halo effect.
@@mayanksingla3244 yeah, you've got a point there
I wont lie, and I feel bad for this girl at my work, she’s autistic, short, fat and just straight up unpleasant to look at. People pick on her all the time and I feel bad for her.
I also have autism and I do some of the same things as her and I get treated so much better, I’m 6’2 with a decent face and people just naturally get along with me. The majority of my female co workers laugh if I stick a drive thru number on their arm at the window, hell sometimes I throw the crumpled up numbers at them and they just laugh about it(not all of them but most of them including managers). I’m also described by most people I meet ss really charismatic even if I’m still awkward. I’ll take the hat off a couple of their heads and they laugh and do it back. I’m by no means a Chad but it’s kinda crazy.
Everytime you hear, "Looks aren't everything," realize that implicitly they're saying, "But its one of the most important things you can have."
This video is making psychology subject an interesting to learn and understand. 👍🏻
As a person who sometimes people considered me as beautiful in my local country, people met me shared their private story so easily when in fact I'm not too good in keep secret.
It should be called the Lucifer's effect instead and it would make more sense to call it that way
Not unless lucifer is known for beauty
I've been somewhat aware if this quite some time without really knowing what it was called. Due to this, i often end up judging people's personalities and behavour. It may not be perfect, but it's been a somewhat suitable replacement to the halo effekt in my life.
Thinking about this... this may be extreme, but what if everyone wears the exact same mask? So any outliers in appearance would no longer be a factor. and to top it off, even their voices are to be filtered. What would potentially happen? would this finally level the playing field for all?
A very good story and personal experience of the halo effect would be when I had previously studied and attempted to become a physical therapist, I had received many compliments from my math teacher, and fellow students who'd surrounded me at the time. The compliments I had received were mainly on my attractive appearance and how I would be and look after what I had experienced earlier, in the county I had resided in before my attempt at PT in college.
Tall and strong people often get rejected at office jobs because people often think they are the archetype of "Brutus" big but dumb, even though they might be very capable of a lot of things...
This is almost 110% perfectly true. I used to be really fat but then I lost a lot of weight like 115 pounds of weight and now I am handsome. The effect is absolutely hilarious.
So interesting! I feel as if there’s too many variables to say that students made worse grades online than in the classroom due to the halo effect, but there are some great points here. I feel like to a certain extent, this is definitely the case . However, unless your doctor was demigod level attractive, they probably worked very hard to get where they are. You’re probably safe trusting their accolades rather than their looks 👍🤝
"The difference in which they think they know, IS actually ALL THAT THEY KNOW SIMPLY BASED ON IMPRESSION ALONE."
T.C -2022
This is true for sure, I used to be fat and not know how to style myself and I’m now thin and fit the beauty standard and everyone treats me nice when my hair, face and clothes look neat + see me as usually being more socially high standing even when I’m significantly lower socially standing or the same, I’m a waitress in college and most ppl tell me I look like I belong in a fine dining place and reseat me as if I am intelligent but treat my less attractive coworker who doesn’t dress to flatter, does her job better than me bc I’m brand new and she’s worked for years and has more manly ways of acting like she’s a ditz high school dropout and even her first impression of me was “you seem like you belong working in fancier places” even tho it was rlly my first waitress job
Take their advice and go apply at a fancier place. At the very least, the tips will be better.
As a short person i feel im automatically perceived as less capable in the workplace. Most people in higher positions are generally tall
That's ridiculous! I am sorry.
It's so relatable to myself.
I won't lie, I sometimes use the halo effect to my advantage 😇
You need to be beautiful to do that
@@sirtobiaseldridge2747 😂😂😂
@@sirtobiaseldridge2747 Sick burn
@@evgeniya_elle I appreciate that you take the humour.
@@sirtobiaseldridge2747 c'mon, I was asking for it 😂
I use this to my advantage. Dress nicely, do my hair up, and paint my nails when I know I want to be approached in a social setting. On days where I dont want to talk to anyone, I leave my hair messy, put on sweats and a t shirt, and it's a natural people-repellant.
But why do I get really suspicious when I see more charmer on