Bonhoeffer‘s Theory of Stupidity
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- Dietrich Bonhoeffer argued that stupid people are more dangerous than evil ones. This is because while we can protest against or fight evil people, against stupid ones we are defenseless - reasons fall on dead ears. Bonhoeffer's famous text, which we slightly edited for this video, serves any free society as a warning of what can happen when certain people gain too much power. #stupidity #sprouts
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CHAPTERS
0:00 The Darkest Chapter
0:55 Letters from prison
4:29 About Bonhoeffer
5:19 Our Patrons
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Script based on the work of Dietrich Bonhoeffer
Editor: Jonas Koblin
Artist: Pascal Gaggelli
Voice: Matt Abbott
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Editing: Peera Lertsukittipongsa
Production: Selina Bador
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Proofreading: Susan
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Dietrich Bonhoeffer's Final Words - This Day in History
Dietrich Bonhoeffer Quotes
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Dietrich Bonhoeffer,
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Original Text
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Bonhoeffer Pastor, martyr, prophet, spy (Student edition)
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CLASSROOM EXERCISE
How would you define Bonhoeffer's version of stupidity? Work together as a class to devise a definition. What qualities must someone possess, or lack, to be considered stupid as Bonhoeffer describes it. In what type of situation would someone display their stupidity? What can we do to avoid stupidity in today's society? Discuss with your class and let us know in the comments below what they think.
Winning an argument against an intelligent person is very hard. Winning an argument against a stupid person is downright impossible.
Excellent!
lmao. Reminded me of something:
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lmao, so much truth in that quote.
Why do you talk about “winning?” I consider myself somewhat intelligent. I don’t want to always be in a “contest” to see which of us is the “smartest.” I want to hear ideas from you which I’ve never thought of. But then, perhaps rather than being the intellectually curious person I think I am, perhaps I’m that stupid person you found it impossible to “defeat.” Lol.
@@kalon227 Lol, agree. But, keyword: always. And, perhaps: want. You may not want, always, to be in a contest, but sometimes you are. How much the outcome matters, I'd offer, depends on what's at stake.
The most important insight in this vid is that stupidity is essentially a moral failing more than an intellectual one. The failure is in believing things based on how they make us feel, rather than on their truthfulness. It puts "taste" above "nutritional value" and eventually we starve.
Outstanding synopsis. Hard to boil down what we're seeing these days into any more concentrated definition than this.
I'm writing this down - what a way to compress it all brother! Thank you for sharing this.
Brilliant, Gregg. Right on!
When I was young I was very social, I thought I liked meeting & getting to know people. Now in my 70’s I’d rather be alone than spend time trying to find someone intelligent, interesting & knowledgeable to converse with. Too many people are set in their ways, limited in their life experiences & content to be so. As Socrates said “the unexamined life is not worth living” - not just stupid these people are boring as hell
I hear you!
I led a fast and furious life, many ups and downs, never a dull moment, lots of scary ones, couldn’t agree more. Leve Palestina! 👍🫶🙏🕊️🇵🇸🇦🇺🦘
LOL😆alone time can be joyous too... feeling you❣
So true. I feel the same way. Never understood how so many people live in a box and refuse to step outside their box to look at something new
Wow, you sound interesting, knowledgeable, and intelligent! 😉 I'm only in my 50s and feel this way!
My life experience has been that malice and stupidity walk hand in hand.
Russia And China Iran Are Doing Both Men Like This or Chaplin Would Be Upset about that it's Malice Nowadays Too A Lot Of it is Also Malice
Yes. Sin makes people stupider and stupider. As the narration says, the stupid person eventually becomes capable of evil. But I think that doing evil is stupid in the first place, and the more people do it, the stupider they get. The more their pride grows and their delusion that "everybody does it" and "nobody will ever catch me" increases, the stupider and more malicious they get.
@@FigaroHey Some are born stupid and some are made stupid and evil. The tools include traditions, cultures, religions, etc.
Malice has a self-serving purpose, that requires the malicious person to be mindful of results. Stupidity is mindless and fails to pay attention to real outcomes.
@@WilliamStaples-sw6vg Some people just want to watch the world burn. Pure evil. And pretty stupid. They are not mutually exclusive.
"Anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities" - Voltaire.
Best comment! :)
I realized years ago that there is no position low and vile enough, that if taken with energy and confidence will develop a following.
Kill magicians, got it.
On a serious note, certainly a pretty good warning.
Great quote
long live our governments ;)
Tunde Musa.... ANOTHER, GREAT quote. Look around. There's PROOF of it EVERYWHERE!
“Smart people learn from everything and everyone, average people from their experiences, stupid people already have all the answers.” - Socrates
What's true is true no matter who said it
@@erlinacobrado7947 How do you know? you must be one of those stupid people that has all the answers.
@@erlinacobrado7947 Here you go.
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@@erlinacobrado7947 Marlene's pretty smart to be able to come up with that quote.
I know that I am intelligent, because I know that I know nothing - Socrates
"never underestimate the Power of Stupid People in large groups" ~ George Carlin.
Social media defined
Mob rule
People blame social media, but I think it goes back way further than that.
Well, yeah, considering this person was an anti-nazi activist.
Absolutely correct. However, social media, having what one writes as a comment appear online no matter how stupid it is, along with finding countless others online just as stupid as themselves has empowered the imbeciles to an unprecedented level.
Social media gave them a tool. Never before have stupid people been able to unite so easily.
Russia And China Situation would Upset Men Like This Man
You've got a point, Bonnie. To me social media is more like the carrier and the catalyst, rather than cause. People, who never even cared about reading a single book, suddenly have a megaphone at their disposal! In the past their nonsense didn't go beyond their limited bar circle of intimates. Now the world is within their grasp. Because we already know about the seduction of the dark side, education becomes paramount!
"A fool who knows he is a fool can at least be said to have some wisdom, but a fool who thinks he is wise is a fool indeed." - The Buddha
The modern version of that is Dunning/Kruger!
@@jammcguire1276 Ah, yes, so true! I had to Google it I'm afraid (not up to speed with modern psychology), but it rings so true of what we see in the world now. People have a wealth of data at their fingertips, but many do not have the wisdom to discern between valid/useful data and conspiracy theories.
@@MrSearcher50 It was the Buddha (Dhammapada verse), but maybe also Socrates?
An outstanding example of the latter leaps to mind.
As a Zen monk, I would add that Christ said the same thing, and as usual, more succinctly: "There are none so blind as those who will not see."
"It is easier to fool someone, than to convince them they have been fooled” - Mark Twain
It is easier to fool oneself than to fool others. In other words, it is easy to see the stupidity of others but very difficult to see one's own stupidity.
You can motivate 1,000 people with lies that feed their biases, and only a handful with the truth.
@@brianmi40 Yes, to convince people to take the VACCINE is easy. To convince people that they have been fooled, is not easy!
The Trump presidency in a nutshell
What about fooling them into believing they've been fooled?
We are all stupid at times. It's part of being a human being. The skill is in recognising when you are.
The greatest tragedy of modern medicine is the failure to find a cure for stupidity.
Trying to use reason and logic to argue with a stupid person is like playing chess with a pigeon. The pigeon just knocks all the pieces over, shits all over the board & then struts around like it has won.
Religious debates
...and claims it is still POTUS because the game was rigged.
@@shadowlouise Sounds like the election!
😄🤣I saw this same comment but they changed it to a democrat !!
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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, while wiser people so full of doubts."
Bertrand Russell.
My favorite quote of all time
I love this one. As I grow older, everyday I realize there is so much I do not know, and how foolish I was in my younger years thinking otherwise.
another cute version of this is: Smarts got brains, but Dumbs got balls !
I don't really thinks it's a matter of full of doubts for many, but more a case of not wanting to offend the overly sensitive fools and fanatics who are either usually jealous or feel terribly inadequate already.
@@MK-ih6wp When I was 10 I knew everything. When I was 12 I realized that when I was 10 I knew nothing but now I knew everything. I came to that realization again at 15 and then again at 18 and 21. Then I began to realize that I never knew anything and in the grand scheme of things I probably never would. But in the grand scheme of things I believe I still know way more than most everyone I've ever known, which may not be saying much, but then everything is pretty much relative.
@@jimcobb3275 but that seems like you came full circle and missed the point.
"You know way more than most everyone" is a bold claim and may be explained by the company you keep.
"Sooner or later, false thinking brings wrong conduct."
Sir Julian Huxley - Essays of a Biologist (1924)
Yep, this really is the biggest problem we face. If there isn't someone out there that wants to do you wrong deliberately, there is certainly an army of people that will cause you a lot of problems out of their sheer stupidity.
See Covid for prime example
"In conversation with him, one virtually feels that one is dealing not at all with him as a person, but with slogans, catchwords, and the like that have taken possession of him."
More relevant today than ever. The hallmark of social media.
Woke society 100%.
The funniest part of this video to me is the amount of people in the comments who completely glossed over this very important part of the video... to post quotes about stupidity. Part of the point is that previous learning can be insightful, but parading quotes without thought is a slippery slope.
The "lets go brandon" crowd, for example.
@@jamesgeorge4874 The "white privilege", "systemic racism", "racial equity", "inclusivity", "climate justice", "transphobic", "marginalised" crowd for example. F*ck Joe Biden.
Bots from The Borg. Fueled by their hate and racism.
"Never confuse education with intelligence, you can have a PhD and still be an idiot." Richard Feynman
P - public
H - high school
D - diploma
BS: Bull Sh*t
MS: More of the Same
PhD: Piled higher and Deeper
Yes, but an intelligent man will be thought stupid without education.
Oh how I revere Feynman!!!
rich and poor also...
Lot of rich just greed...
There are times when complicated ideas can be summed up in just a few words , “ Stupid is as stupid does.”
Today we have more knowledge at our fingertips than ever....its amazing how people will follow the crowd from rumor without researching the topic or person for even a few minutes....though alot of info on the internet is false/untrue...the truth is usually there also...you just have to seek it....
USA and China are Both Guilty of that
Nicely presented. I feel like social media has unleashed a tsunami of stupidity and it's only getting worse.
@@Jedin8_1966 Pray tell me that the communists shoot stupid people, and I will become a communist.
"Social Media" is only an extension of "Village Gossip" by technical means. So was the telegraph and telephone for matter. The trouble is at the "village level" it was easy to pick out the "Village Idiots"...
"social media" is a euphemism for social engineering
I agree. And the really stupid can't be convinced. You can show them irrefutable evidence but it doesn't make a dent in them.
@@elizabethcsicsery-ronay1633
As stated they see it as "incidental". The book of proverbs and of Ecclesiastes are full of wisdom on fools which Bonhoeffer likely came to realize the extent of.
It's one thing to read, another to experience.
I'm reminded of Ben Franklin's observation.
"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid."
I love this! I had never heard it before. For years I have been saying that ignorance does not bother me however, belligerent ignorance is infuriating.
It's a great quote, but it's probably not from Ben Franklin. Etymologist Barry Popik researched the quote in 2013 and found no evidence that Franklin said it. A 2019 PolitiFact article rated the attribution to Franklin "Pants on Fire."
@@nickrund9455 Ignorance is just not knowing.
I am quite ignorant about auto mechanics, but I could learn.
Stupid is not caring that you don't know, or pretending you DO know.
As Ron White said, "You can't fix stupid", fles the sound.and I add, but duct tape muf
idk. fig stupidity is the laziness to think.
@@stephanc6138True that ! 👍🏼
Thank you for making the video available without background music!
The same reason that I reject the insanity defense in criminal cases: a sane person can be corrected. An insane person is a constant threat.
Insanity and stupidity are different things in my opinion
The best part is, everyone who watches this thinks it's about everyone else but them
I'm one of them 😅
I was thinking the same thing 👍
EXACTLY! I was reading along, waiting for someone to admit this.
Yep. That's exactly the danger. I first thought this video was about others, but then thought about how I myself am falling prey to some "stupid" tendencies.
No, I was thinking it was about the Nazis.
This theory sums up the following nicely -"Never argue with an idiot, they will only argue you down to their level and beat you with experience". Blessings.
Explains what’s going on in the world today perfectly! Thank you Sir, R.I.P. 👍🫡🙏🕊️🇦🇺🦘
A person could read your comment at ANY time in history and it would be correct
Sometimes it's not wise to be smart. Ask Bonhoeffer.
Farty-five wasn't kidding when he said that he loved the uneducated, so did Uncle Adolf: a clean slate is easiest to write on.
I think Mark Twain said it best when he asked the rhetorical question “How comes those who know the least know it the loudest?”.
It is the Duning-Kruger effect
Brevity a wit
To the stupid, volume makes it true.
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@@ewanmiller9487 Freddy Kruger read Dune?
I've always differentiated between "ignorance" and "willful ignorance." The former can be addressed with information, the latter cannot -- and, because of that, it is far more dangerous.
The necessary irony in abstract thinking about stupidity is that the thinker must cut the same corners and make the same sweeping judgments that characterize willful stupidity. Philosophy is most pleasing when it is simple and broad and uses a lot of convenient labels that gloss over complex realities; thus philosophy exhibits the very qualities that appeal to mobs and political constituencies. It's easy reasoning that neatly defines vast groups of people as "us" or "them" - useful in conversation when making an argument, but dangerous when leveraged to control people. History has all kinds of examples of people oppressing other people based on the overapplication of some once-well-meaning philosophy.
@@cisium1184 -- I don't like the use of "stupid" or "stupidity" in this context really... Ignorance and stupidity are not synonymous. Ignorance represents a lack of information/knowledge -- you can be ignorant of the rules for calculating the hypotenuse of a triangle because you don't know the rule. This doesn't mean that you are stupid -- that implies something about the individual's aptitude/ability (i.e., something internal - and possibly fixed - about that person). If you teach the rule then the person is no longer ignorant -- i.e., ignorance is diminished by evidence/learning. When the person denies the evidence -- for example, they say that there is no evidence for human evolution, or no evidence for anthropocentric climate change, or no evidence that vaccines are safe -- then they are being willfully ignorant. This is a motivated bias rather than a mere lack of information -- it is the denial of evidence, the refusal of learning. That is when ignorance becomes dangerous. It is easy to say that people who deny evidence are "stupid" but that's too easy and not at all helpful in combating that type of motivated bias.
For example, it is very easy to say that anti-vaxxers are "stupid" -- and very appealing to think of them in this way -- but that's not really the case. I know some anti-vaxxers (I am definitely not one of them, to be clear), who are smart and caring people who have a very different threshold for what counts are evidence. They treat their feelings about the issue as totally valid - even more valid than what the science demonstrates. That they don't "feel" right about vaccinations is enough to convince them that they should not vaccinate their children (or themselves in these Covid times). Within my own mental dichotomy, they are being "willfully ignorant" because they have seen/read the evidence and have ultimately denied it because their feelings tell them something else. They are not stupid, but they are frustrating as #%@&... and they cannot be swayed with evidence (which is the antithesis of everything that I hold dear as an empiricist). To call them merely "stupid" ignores the reason that underlie their motivations to remain unwavering in their views -- and if you ignore the underlying mechanism, then you have no chance at all to make any chips in that armor (as unlikely as that seems to be with such deeply entrenched beliefs).
@@Mattalica-ss9pj One problem I have with your examples of climate change and vaccine hesitancy and perhaps I am misunderstanding the entirety of your message, but I don't think it's so black and white. For instance, competing evidence about efficacy or safety of vaccines either in isolation or compared to our natural immune system. Some of us see one side of the argument as being propaganda for vaccination and actions against climate change. If we just blindly believe the proposed facts about anything, then we fall into the willful ignorance category the same as disregarding information.
As a personal account, my aunt after getting her second dose had stoke like symptoms. However, she isn't a very healthy person and to be honest far from it. So I have two options, believe it was an adverse reaction to the vaccine or the event was bound to happen at some point. Given her poor lifestyle decisions, I'll give benefit of doubt to the vaccine and say it is probably her poor choices. My ex wife got both doses of the vaccine and as far as I know hasn't had any observable adverse side effects. So you'd think my non-compliance with the vaccine mandate is unjustified, but after seeing multiple videos of peoples experiences as well as many videos of doctors saying they are seeing an uptick in certain medical cases after getting even the first vaccine dose makes me and others like me very hesitant.
As far as the climate change supposedly caused or accelerated by humanity, I'm choosing to be willfully ignorant and any opinion I have on the matter is based on feelings and not logic or facts.
Voluntary idiots! Sigh! Makes one shudder!
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I learned this with my dad. An intelligent man, reasonable, and peaceful man, he contracted dementia and slowly over a course of years became more and more unreasonably stupid until downright physically hostile before dying. He also had terminal cancer almost the entire time. The family all agreed that if we we magically had the power to heal only one of these maladies for him, we wanted the dementia healed because it was by far the worst of the two. No verbal or printed facts could change dad's mind once he got a crazy idea in his head.
"No more terrible disaster could befall your people than for them to fall into the hands of a Hero."
Dune, Frank Herbert
"You can sway a thousand men by appealing to their prejudices quicker than you can convince one man by logic." - Robert A. Heinlein
The difference between intelligence and stupidity is that intelligence has limits.
Einstein said there are two things that are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. He followed that by clarifying that he wasn’t sure about the universe.
@@oligoprimer I am stupid but 2 things I admit it and I recognise it. Most people don't get that far
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Sounds like a slogan, right?
@@VictorYarema Or a fastgan.
The more I learn, the more stupidity is revealed and the less time I waste on stupid people.
Thank you for posting, and making me aware of this gentleman's attempt at redressing what was happening . I am always impressed and in awe of those who stand up against such overwhelming odds; and often sadly pay with their life.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." Aristotle - Philosopher (384 - 322 BC)
Seeing all the other quotes in the comments section I wonder why nobody thumbed this up yet?
I was in my 40’s before I fully accepted or even understood this concept. As a shop Steward on a union contract I was often in the middle of disagreements. Asking the grieving employee to tell me what the company’s position might be when I approach them about their issue was quite interesting. Being able to articulate your oppositions position- even as you disagree with it- is difficult for most people. It’s as if acknowledging And agreeing are the same thing when in fact, differentiating the two are a central first step in the best possible resolution of disagreements.
My most favorite quote from my early 20's.
@@Reddotzebra yep, it’s the quote of the day!
Most useful quote I've seen in this thread.
"Arguing with a genius is hard, arguing with an idiot is impossible", Einstein (I think)
If Einstein didn't say it, I'll bet that he'd agree with it.
Arguing with a Genius who is also an Idiot is even worse.
Well i looked it up and it was Bill Murray
@Esphaeras Praestans arguing with those whose reasoning ability has been eaten away by TDS and the comorbidity of Identity Politics is even more futile
@Esphaeras Praestans You don't have the ability to think. Or to write a proper sentence.
This explanation of stupidity is very applicable at this time in the US.....
You Nailed it . Just as Hitler’s or of past present likes of Him are being supported by people , the people are more stupid than the Leader .
Consoling ourself that the Stupids had it coming does not help, when the cunning leader begins to encroach and prey on others . So there has to be another way to eradicate stupidity and force the stupid to be aware of their actions .
"Action springs not from thought, but from a readiness for responsibility" Holy fuck that is an amazing quote
"Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience” - Mark Twain
He also said never argue with fools observers cant tell the difference.
"I would never engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man".
To argue any point is stupid.
@@alanmckeeve2695 Never heard this one.....definitely sounds like Twain!
I don't understand what this means.
Bonhoeffer, a man of truth and courage. He wasn't "free" on the outside but he was inwardly. Thank you for this video.
After seeing this video I'd like to say that even on the outside he was freer than his compatriots. 🙃
It is a pity that he did not survive the war. He had so many things to teach the world, one of the brightest in his profession. I studied his works with great benefits. He was only 39 when he died.
@@adamabele785 oh my. A gift to the world for such a short time.
He was so happy to leave here.
Few people are able to maintain a truly unbiased “open” mind. The amygdala short circuits most neural pathways early on, so new evidence, no matter how convincing, has a hard time forging a better highway to understanding once an original narrative becomes engrained.
Stupidity and ignorance are two powerful forces, Blessed Be.
"Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups."
_George Carlin.
The man (Carlin) was a genius.
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huhuhu we should have a group chat
@Milo Grey er - nope, the troublemakers were Antifa infiltrators.
Makes sense
White house
Unfortunately, stupidity is the greatest pandemic America has ever seen.
It's global
It's in human nature. The modern GOP is just the latest to exploit it on a mass scale
maybe they should have people that get vexxed take a before/after IQ test to make sure they're not putting anything in there to make people even MORE stoopid.
Thank you. So frightfully true.
Touche
Extraordinary dynamic. Bonhoffer's Platonic influence is evident. Kudos to this creater. This should be in every classroom above sixth grade.
"Stupidity ain't a virus. But it sure is spreading like one."
This sounds to me like what is going on in America today.
Stupidity is winning.
In today’s world that depends on who you ask. For one side thinks the other side is stupid. But only one side really is. And that is the one that sounds radical and is about to bring this country into one like the Germany that this video is talking about.
sadly satan is winning yes,for now wait for the half time
America has been very stupid for a very long time.
Anyone who thinks that it's really that much different here in Europe really needs to get out of the house more often, so to speak.
@@WhirlOmar just out of curiosity, which side do you view that to be? Seeing as you're going with Nazis, not communists, I think I can guess, but both sides see the other as the truly stupid one.
As a mature-aged psychology student I have had a building interest in the area of stupidity while simultaneously thinking it would be difficult to research due to many being offended at the use of the word stupid. This video has given me the push to indeed try to make this an area of research as I enter my further years of study. Thank you Sprouts!
I recommend looking into Carlos Cipolla's Taxonomy of Stupid (and his 5 fundamental laws) as well as terms like Midwit, NPC (Non-playable character), and Sheeple.
Also further research by others helps.
Hanlons Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by neglect/incompetence/stupidity (at least not the first time)
The Seven Laws of Stupidity By Nana Oppong
The Seven Degrees of Stupid by Paul McWhorter
You may also look into The Comfort Camper with myself and Tyr Ravensohn. Spoiler: They can't think outside their comfort zone.
For movies: Free Guy or Idiocracy
Good luck!
Best of luck! Update us if you want, I'll be happy to support in any way I can.
Oh, here's the video on The Comfort Camper.
Enjoy!
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Why we are so mad about stupitidity ? If you cant argue civilized with someone dont talk civilized it's liberating, then you dont need to defend yourself for stupid words because u already know the x person doesnt deserve your good self anyway. Stupid people are mad people that they dont want to accept their problem with specific people and blame anyone else ,they release their pressure on others while they are sayig tha they dont do that. 'I am always kind is masochism', 'I am always agreesive is sadism'.
Just admit to yourself what is defense and what is not and prove it, the angry mob cant be justified (left,right or true liberal), the one without sins can throw the first stone, if you dont have a crime in your records you can 'throw a stone'(symbolical) for real IF AND ONLY IF they are trying to damage your health!
REAL PRIDE does not has shame at all. (sry for my English)
Might help to just rename it to something else - e.g. voluntary subjugation to group mind (well - something like that, you can probably think of something more catchy!). The name is very important - as it will be the difference between support and rage from the subjugated public.
Maliciousness and stupidity are actually the same thing. Once you realize stupidity is a choice, the only explanation is that the person is deciding to be greedy at the expense of others.
The catch, however, is that this also applies to people who give the impression that they are smart and intellectual and open-minded, yet are still wrong.
So Bonhoeffer felt stupidity can’t be fixed? Brilliant !
In the old days, before the internet, we believed that stupidity was caused by lack of information. It wasn't that!
While blaming the internet for everything people forget that the panic of the witch hunt craze, the rise of Protestantism against the Catholic church, the rise of Marxist-Leninism, the rise of the Nazis all happened without the internet and nothing more than the printing press as a communications medium.
@@dnmurphy48 I'm not blaming the internet but people - stoopid people will be stoopid no matter how much or how little information they have access to.
Yeah - the internet has just made it easier for the stupid to find justification for their stupidity. And to find each other with ease - the algorithms of Facebook being a prime example (if you like this brand of stupid you'll like this extreme version even more!).
The internet brought what was called the age of information but it was quickly turned the Age of misinformation.
@@reasonerenlightened2456 That is one kind of stupidity
This explains how people can hate someone they've never met simply because someone told them to.
Все просто. Эти люди хотят ненавидеть. Это их потребность.
Exactly what I thought
@@user-je7js5wl6p Hate creates hate. There's so much hate in this world, no wonder people want to vent by hating on others for no particular reason. But this only creates more hate. It's a repetitive cycle
@@Diremension выбор всегда за каждым из нас. Кто-то имеет силы и не отвечает злом на зло. Кто-то слаб и труслив и понимая свою слабость, отвечает еще большим злом, надеясь, что теперь его будут считать сильным.
@@user-je7js5wl6p That's partly true. Too many people are choosing the easy route. But it's not a problem of the induvidual in my opinion. It's way bigger than that. I think people need to be taught to not combat hate with hate. If people don't know there is another way, how are they supposed to choose if they think there is only this one option? They are victims themselves that don't know any better I think.
I'm not trying to excuse this kind of behavior, I'm just trying to rationalize it
I started working with an OCPD manager in 2016 and I have learned how harmful stupidity can be. His ego seems to be his primary priority, and he puts it above all other goals anyone around him could have. He has climbed a ladder by simply saying buzz words, but if you were to ask him a follow-up question in good faith, he will fly into a rage as if you are threatening him. It's bizarre.
Sadly, some things never change. This is more relevant than ever.
“Whenever you find yourself in the majority, it’s time to pause and reflect.” (paraphrase) -Mark Twain
@@gooser__43 That's not what I understand!
Great quote
Sometimes you're hoping the majority will join you.- Papa smurf
@@gooser__43 Rigged election
@@gooser__43 Yeah and Jeffrey Epstein killed himself.
When you are dead, you do not know you are dead. It's only painful & difficult for others. The same applies when you are stupid. -Ricky Gervais
Ricky is a genius.
Never expected to find a Gervais quote to rival those of the greatest thinkers on the planet!
You actually do know when you're dead, because you burn in hell for eternity.
But it doesn't have to be that way, you can have eternal life: th-cam.com/video/CLTAqJavYZU/w-d-xo.html
@@thinkingtoomuch7680 Ah. That makes more sense. Didn't sound like the way Gervais speaks.
@@goblinoide As much as i want to argue... I know there is no helping the stupid.
I found this so helpful and insightful. Thank you.
I have been thinking the 'stupidity' that is being referred to is part of the human brain's 'need for certainty' as per Mazlos' 6 human needs.
One of those human needs is certainty/ uncertainty ( how I was taught it).
During times of extreme stress, the human brain will seek 'certainty' to give it comfort and percieved safety.
This is why any individuals or ideologies that are able to step up to the plate and offer such certainty, will be followed.
The more dire things become in a society or the world, the worse it will get.
It applies to everything from leaderships, politics, health, religions, environmental issues, financial systems.
The capacity to cope with 'uncertainty' generally happens in times of plenty, in terms of a society at large.
This fits in with what he says. It seems to be a weakness of the human brain, which is, no doubt, also it's strength at certain times, particularly in order to accomplish things, a certain amount of certainty is required.
This describes everything that is wrong right here, right now.
“The secret of freedom lies in educating people, whereas the secret of tyranny is in keeping them ignorant.”
~Maximilien de Robespierre
.."How fortunate for governments that the people they administer do not think". ~ Adolf Hitler
..There has always been that common thread in society that makes it easy to control.
I agree, except that "education" can be used to keep people ignorant. much of our current education does just this... it's partly propaganda
@@sm6jesse It’s fairly easy to distinguish between education and indoctrination.
If what is being taught can’t handle pushback, critique, or the scrutiny of basic logic, it’s the latter.
The problem is, Conservatives (in America) have already decided that those are flipped. This is rooted in Creationism, but also in traditional racist beliefs (for instance, educating kids about how minority groups have suffered and should be treated, which is the root of the made-up “CRT controversy”) not to mention an elaborate Nationalistic mythology about American exceptionalism, etc.
Indoctrination has one goal: To create more cult members.
Education has another: To create free-thinkers who aren’t conformists.
...Then he was guillotined.
@@frederiquecouture3924 Thanks. There’s ALWAYS one…
Lol!
"I can tolerate insanity,
But I can't deal with stupidity."
Thanks Dad.
What's the difference?
@@eymed2023
woof !
@@decab8292 Uh...what?
Why are you imitating a dog noise out of a sudden?
Where talking about human beings, not dogs.
@@eymed2023
You asked the difference between stupidity and insanity.
Answer: Woof 😉
This is very precise description of political left of today and very precise description of university professor, students, 99% of Hollywood. Only places not infested are those who have suffer from the communist hell: Russian, China, Poland, Hungary.
This is so relevant today that it is chilling!
Great video, brilliant graphics. Thank you !
"When arguing with fools; be absolutely sure that the other person isn't doing the same thing" -- Abraham Lincoln.
My mother's favourite quote. "Nothing is foolproof to a talented fool"
"never argue with fools - onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."
■▪︎. MARK TWAIN
@@SaltyShaman ahhhh.
my honors degree in tomfoolery has taken me so far
😁 yes!
“When trying to appear smart on the internet, quote historical figures. It’s so easy!” - Captain Obvious
The best part of this, is that everyone watching this will think about how well it applies to whatever group they disagree with, without realizing that they could also be the stupid person.
All sides have stupid people. No group is safe from that, and that knowledge makes my skin craw.
But the main issue is that non-stupid people are seen as the ones being stupid by those who actually are stupid.
thats the dunning-kruger chapter on stupidity.
Unfortunately, stupidity is universal.
This shit always blows my mind. Makes me question everything, heck i think i have completely lost my religious beliefs going down this Rabbit hole of philosophy 🤷
Im so glad for this video and even the comments section is great
"stupidity being moral failing more than an intellectual one": the problem is more of value system than of cognitive ability. When a person harms others for their self-interest knowing it is the wrong thing, they become evil. Wrongly harming others but thinking it is the right thing to do makes them "stupid".
Many ideologies including religions manufacture stupidity at an very early age when most people are mentally defenseless.
One word that Bonhoeffer failed to mention and that is completely absent from this video, yet is central to this "stupidity" that he talks about is propaganda. That's what grips people, puts them under a spell and makes idiots of them all.
briliant!
Actually he does talk about propaganda, but without using that term. The thing is that he's trying to get at the deeper issue of the moral choice that underlies stupidity, whether it is induced by deliberate propaganda or not.
I agree. I think the internet memes can also be lumped into this category. It's easy (and lazy) to see a simple photo with a few incendiary words to validate our beliefs regardless of how inaccurate or invalid the point that is being made.
@@paultuke5110 Agree. Laziness is stupidity’s ugly cousin.
@@paultuke5110 The nice thing about using a term like propaganda is that it convicts some other group, where as if we used terms like memes, maxims, or aphorisms to say how stupidity is caught and spread, it might convict everyone. For no one thinks that he is a propagandist for spreading the common wisdom. Rather he pats himself on the back for having a lot of common sense.
Lately, discussing this with my gf, it seems that many people we thought of as intelligent (friends, coworkers, family) aren't. It's amazing how many people don't think too deep on much of anything
….and it’s going to cost us all dearly.
Intelligence and wisdom can be differentiated.
“Trust the experts!”
If they thought at all it would be a bonus so we are all suffering the resultant deficit.
listen & observe,,, it will teach tons of 411
Truth is elegantly simple
There is a lack of self relfection and responsibility in our education. We blame others, but never ourselves .
I should reflect myself in order to make sure im not getting stupid.
Years ago when I worked in a high school library, a colleague once said to me, in frustration regarding one of her students: "Someone told her once that she was brilliant, and she is stupid enough to believe it."
Since then I met MANY people that fit that description.
"Everybody's special", amirite?
That's a great quote
Stupid people don't understand sarcasm.
Never think you know already. instead you want to know more.
That's the long way to describe: delusional.
But which character in the story is the delusional one, or more delusional than the other... Things that make me go: Hmmm
"Never underestimate the power of human stupidity." Robert A. Heinlein - Writer (1907 - 1988)
Carlo Cipolla wrote something similar.
We watched the experienced political powers that be fail to heed that advice in 2016.
Haven't read my favorite Einstein attribution yet: "Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the first one."
Wow, what beautiful animations! Lovely, thanks
Stupidity = Someone who does not think like I do.
"Knowing ignorance is strength, but ignoring knowledge is sickness." - Lao Tzu
The most important part of 'know thyself' is to know our own ignorance and our own arrogance.
@@clocktower1164 very true.
@@clocktower1164 Knowing how the brain works is a vital part of this.
this is GOLD...
any similarity with our current realty is not coincidence
LGB
That's because we actually ARE stupid and allow history to repeat itself. And the side that is actually committing the atrocities always calls the other the evil ones not being able to see the irony of their own actions and words. Like our current predicament with the vax. They cant see that "show me your papers" is literally creating a second class of people. There should never be a situation where we have to show papers to be allowed to participate in society, and they think the "reason" makes it ok. The "reason" is just a way to turn people against each other, and its working wonderfully for them.
@@waltersobchak7275 FJB indeed!
@@jakethomas1829 👍🤣😂
@@robertramsey653 Or they just value public health over personal liberty. It's not stupidity, it's a different set of priorities. Before vaccines it wasn't uncommon to have a sibling or child die from a disease we no longer have to deal with. So when vaccine mandates for schools and some workplaces started few cared. Were they wrong to not care about a life saving policy?
Understanding the perspective of people not like you is important.
Where I live, stupidity seems to be treated like a good career move. If one can do a good job of feigning stupidity, it saves one from having to be good at one's actual job. Of course I could be wrong, and there might actually be a high frequency of stupidity where I live. I have some suspicions about why that might be.
Thank you for sharing this.
Interesting too, is the fact that social media can tend to AMPLIFY this effect. Try and talk out anything online and you can actually feel the virtual cyber piranhas nipping away at your flesh.
Threaded media are inherently stupid.
This reminds me of Trump supporters
The majority of the comments on here back up what you are saying. There is a parroting of a bunch of one liner quotes from philosophers and not much original content.
@@jimandskittum
I don’t think people parroting truisms amounts to the “virtual cyber piranhas” that the OP mentions.
@@q.e.d.9112 Thanks for chiming in
This can basically be summed up as "useful idiots". The parallels today are very disturbing. We are rushing into totalitarianism and most people seem to want it.
“Please think for me” syndrome
@@kylej741 Yup. Never ends well
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As Covid has proved beyond doubt. Blind obedience and mass hysteria.
@@goodyeoman4534 Not to mention the hatred of those who don't blindly follow.
@@gunman462 Thats the truth!
This is more relevant in 2024 than ever. The greatest epidemic of our time.
Bonhoeffer was onto something. My take on what he was shedding light on is this: Ignorance and stupidity are brothers. The slight difference is ignorance is a choice. The person chooses to ignore the TRUTH.
"A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves, and traitors are not victims but accomplices." George Orwell
FJB
Ricky Gervais, not Orwell. I found this quote in one of his shows at around 2015 and its the earliest it appears on the web.
If they are aware of corruption and abuse. However I feel with the internet especially, few politicians can keep their past and current actions secret for long.
FDT
The American people are electing the right politicians but are being deceived by the corrupt into believing elections are not rigged.
Whoever is elected, it's the government that rules.
I have long contended that stupidity wasn't a lack of intelligence or capability of rational thought but of willful ignorance. Unintelligent people often try to understand much harder than a willfully ignorant person. I have found more legitimately learning-disabled people capable of understanding complex ideas than people who outright refuse to learn because of ideology.
Yes I’ve met plenty of people with learning disabilities and/or supposedly low IQ say very insightful things or learning complex matters via a different route. I’ve also met plenty of people who were supposed to be intelligent to be very closed minded and unwilling to change or update views. Not to mention blaming external circumstances when not able to solve a puzzle instead of just trying for longer/trying something different/asking for help
A simplification: irrationality is different from stupidity. It tends to be induced by emotion, rather than by intellectual condition, and that seems to be overlooked by most people. There are situations in which even intelligent people act or think irrationally, and situations in which "unintelligent" people act/think rationally.
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My one thing is my disability actually makes it so I feel the need to ignore information, this has been a great challenge of mine, especially since people often take it as me not wanting to learn when in reality I feel like I can not learn in my current state and I am trying to get to a state where I can.
willfully ignorant = moral deficiency
This is my first time hearing about this theory. I truly think that Dietrich was onto something. We see this act of stupidity to this day.
From my favorite author Terry Goodkinds “Wizards First Rule”- “The wizards first rule is that people are stupid. They will believe a lie either because they want it to be true, or because they are afraid it’s true.”
" The enemy of intelligence is not ignorance but the illusion of intelligence " - Stephen Hawking
Donald Trump is a demagogue who appeals to the lowest common denominator.
--- Stephen Hawking
Partly true/wrong, its BOTH
@@bobomaigret5430 its you who said that, not stephen. Must be so stupid and desperate to say something from urself but tag others
@@dyfrigshandy I cannot confirm if it is from Stephen Hawkins but i can say is that the quote in the internet instead of intelligence, they replaced with knowledge.
@@dyfrigshandy Bobo is under the illusion he is being intelligent with that ruse.
Mark twain famously wrote; "Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." And in my long life I've fought many of those battles and lost all of them. However there is a way for you to turn your intelligence against these people. Instead of arguing with them pretend to be interested. but each time your victim explains their ideas you must completely agree and also entirely misunderstand them in a way that's even more stupid then the original idea. This will make them feel incredibly frustrated and as soon as this becomes noticeable you will feel happiness because even though they still do not get why they are stupid they at least feel what everyone else feels when talking with them.
That's stupid, either have the discussion or do not. Don't fuck with people because you think they are stupid.
LOL love it! Thank you. Definitely gonna give that a shot.
Plot twist, your feigned stupidity was taken at face value and has succeeded in convincing the idiot that his stupid ideas are stupid and that your even dumber ideas are smarter. He is now unintentionally using your own words against you.
Congratulations, you played yourself.
Bahaha! I had to screenshot this! Great tip! Will def use this! God speed to all common sense, critical thinkers who feel like they’re living in crazy land! Keep up the good fight! 😉🤗
This dude said force doesn't solve stupidity.
Yes. It does.
A most interesting video and very educational. Thanks for posting
Glad it was helpful!
Absolutely, generating good ideas involves creativity and critical thinking, while parroting often seeks external approval without true understanding or originality. Genuine innovation stems from authentic exploration and experience.
" Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level, and win with experience. " ______ Mark Twain
Like playing chess with a pigeon in the park. He will poop on the board, knock over all the pieces and fly away and Victory.
The rule I always forget to follow when I wade into a debate on boobtoob.
So fun to watch both political sides in attempting to co-opt this video to prove their own deranged views.
Literally the premise of the video played out in near real time. Lol
Wrestling with the pig. Everybody gets muddy. And only the pig enjoys it.
@@ltmundy1164 You made me think of this. Matt 7:6 . . . neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
Don’t you realise the irony here?
This could be applied to anyone, you think your right, but aren’t.
But you have this mindset the video is showing.
And the people you think are stupid have this mindset about you.
And vice versa.
"Stupidity is a moral deficiency." This is powerful stuff.
Too bad that it's a pseudoscientific statement. Stupidity is almost totally organic. An incapacity of the brain to process complexity without falling in some logical fallacy, which has an energetically lower cost and is so preferred by such low intelligence individuals.
One example of logical fallacy is GENERALIZATION, which is massively used in this video.
@@lambdasun4520 The theories posed by philosophers are thinking exercises, not ultimatums.
@Mikey P. - Quite correct. It's especially clear when you encounter people who will themselves not to know, even in the face of truth.
@@lambdasun4520 Agreed.
@@lambdasun4520 Fallacy fallacy.
I fear I must take umbrage with this: I am well known throughout the decades by my many distractors as a stupid person; however, also I find when confronted by well established facts its very easy for me to change my mind...smile now!
The video doesn't mention that there is a bliss for people like this. They don't have to think, no matter what they do they're right and you're wrong. It is very compelling to people who are confused by a complicated world.
They may enjoy blissful moments when they are in the trance and with the group who is agreeing and boosting them. On the internet this takes the form of "likes" and agreeing replies. But their need to viciously verbally attack the skeptic who jumps into the dialog, the one who is not uncritically supporting the consensus view of the group and the topic at hand, shows what is really inside.
They have no peace of mind and they have no knowledge of their own potential (but deeply buried) sense of self. They are not free. But they don't think of life or society in terms of being free, so that doesn't factor into their behavior and their unconscious abuse of the thoughtful skeptic. I call this mode "reddit think", because Reddit is the one major internet platform where I've observed this mode of being and behavior is most frequent.
The time in my past stupid was not what I was, it was what I did. Now wise is not what I am. Wise is what I do. Example: I have for many years spent less than my income for the year, payed my debts before they come due, and lived on a budget. It has not so much make me rich as it has kept me from becoming poor.
THANK YOU FOR SHARING ❤
You are so welcome
Someone pointed out to me when I was a teenager that intelligence and stupidity are not opposite ends of a spectrum, you can have a lot or very little of both. There are people who aren't very smart, but they work within their limitations and very rarely do anything stupid. There are also geniuses who do idiotic things regularly.
Then there are people Willfully ignorant!
Haha why did Elon Musk just pop into my head
I always thought of it as functional intelligence vs. raw brain power. As you say, a person of limited raw brain power who knows their limitations and works within them can easily do better than a person of greater processing ability who does not realize the limits of their own knowledge.
Intelligence seems to be the specific skill of using the hand you were dealt in intellectual and technical ability to its fullest.
@@CrimsonKingOkie yes, the illusion of knowledge
Bonhoeffer‘s Theory of Stupidity sounds like what is happening specifically to the USA and western culture in general. I wonder how this correlates with the Dunning-Kruger Effect?
Nah, its happening in south east asia n other 3rd world countries too
I'm glad you mentioned the Dunning-Kruger effect. Narcissism trait is preferring delusions over reality. The overlap is there for Stupidity and Narcissism but Narcissism is immune to the Dunning-Kruger effect. For with Narcissism there is no undervaluing themselves, no matter how little or much they know, their arrogance remains the same with their "infallible" emotional reasoning. Naturally Stupidity comes about when the Midwits deem themselves "in the know". Emotional Reasoning plays a major role in all of it.
Stupidity will always offer a feeling of comfort. Without this certainty, this comfort, stupidity wouldn't be so common. The stupid choice to the stupid doesn't seem stupid, it feels right. Emotional reasoning and comfort, a very good feeling, is all that is needed for stupidity to defeat intelligence.
Don't ask what were they thinking. They weren't thinking. Ask what were they feeling.
The Dark Triad includes Narcissism, as would be expected of criminal types, who prefer delusions over reality and end up getting caught because of it:
Ex. McArthur Wheeler, who believed by covering his face in lemon juice, it would be invisible! He was rather surprised when the bank robbery he pulled off was short lived with police showing up at his door after seeing the recorded footage and somehow able to see his face despite his ingenuity. This was the push needed for the research now widely known as the Dunning Kruger Effect.
It's all interconnected, this Midwit Infestation, this Narcissism Epidemic, this Egopath Endgame. All of it. Evil can bank on the destructive power that is stupid. Gather Stupid into a Herd to destroy the intelligent and plunge us all into the Dark Ages. I've covered this with Carlos Cipolla's Taxonomy of Stupid and Friedrich Nietzsches classification of the Higher Man, The Herd, and The Slave.. you can find it by searching: Tyr Ravensohn Mask of Perfection. It's the grand finale.
Dunning kruger effect occurs at country level also india always say we will never win war against china because we know a lot about china while pakistan always say that they can easily defeat india which actually stupid.
@@egopathtime3273 You should speak about it on a vídeo man
@Borfis Jort Wow. Racist much? As if ppl in Asia are immune to stupidity. Go back to doing what u do best =🤤
Ignorance is when a person does not know or understand what is going on. A stupid person refuses to know what is going on.