YouTubers Sold Out To Skillshare. The Truth.
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Skillshare is constantly pitched as the go-to place to learn new skills by TH-camrs. But, the reality is that Skillshare isn’t all that it’s hyped up to be. In most cases, you’ll actually find way more content on TH-cam, not to mention, TH-cam videos are usually of the same quality if not better. Despite offering less value than TH-cam, Skillshare charges quite a bit for the services that they do offer. You have to pay $32 per month or $168 per year to have a Skillshare membership, and looking at TrustPilot, it seems that a substantial number of customers have had issues with Skillshare’s customer support especially when it comes to refunds and cancellations. Something else to note is that Skillshare doesn’t pay its creators as much as you would think. While creators do usually get paid more than TH-cam per view, Skillshare is actually the one who gets to keep 70% of the subscription fee that you pay. In the end, it appears that Skillshare has figured out how to tap into TH-camrs’ most loyal audience to make the maximum amount of money for themselves. While this is a brilliant business model, it’s not all that worth it for the end consumer. This video explains the truth about Skillshare and how TH-camrs sold out to Skillshare.
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The fact Skillshare keeps 70% of the creator's revenue is absolutely insane...
But unfortunately so does the rest of the industry - you cannot argue that TH-cam (who make billions from add revenue) or Udemy are any better.
@@DominicRighiniBrand I'm pretty sure TH-cam only keeps 55% of ad revenue for partners
@@EldeGaming interesting to know … also unless you have many millions of minutes watched, add revenue is not a reliable way to remunerate teachers. Whereas on some of these teaching platforms you only needed a few thousand students to be actively making an income.
i make a small amount of money of TH-cam and TH-cam takes 45% of money from ads but my 55% share i have to pay American tax even though im from Uk because of Biden so ill get about 40-45% of the money the ads make
@@obmax are you American? Because British citizens and non-US residence don't have to pay withholding tax.
I would literally never pay for a site like skillshare when I can literally find anything I want to learn on youtube for free.
Facts
Or even better, chatgpt lol
@@LogicallyAnswered 📠
"a site like skillshare" I assume you would include udemy in that. While on TH-cam you find a few good videos, rhrere are a lot of greate courses in udemy for example I bought one about networking which was really good made and because it was the first course I bought, it only costed me $20. But on the skillshare part I agree, the way they handle the payments (trail thing etc.) Is just bad.
This. Everything is on TH-cam
I was under the impression that skillshare was specifically a compendium of curated courses, not just a video sharing platform. Goes to show the wonders of marketing.
No, it’s really bad. I thought exactly the same 🥲
I think we all thought the same thing
thats masterclass. and its shit too i heard.
P.S. Every major youtube in video sponsor is exactly like this too. BetterHelp doesn't have legal therapists, and their therapists aren't qualified. Hello Fresh charges high prices for very cheap produce, raycons are very mediocre headphones. Raid Shadow legends spends money on psychologists to teach them how to best manipulate people with gambling addictions to play their game, and have a way for children to bill the costs to their phone bill without their parents' permission. Kamikoto knives are just garbage, etc. The list goes on.
Never trust abduls
Dude you actually just saved my life in the funniest way. I was planning on learning digital art and decided to get Skillshare to teach me. I’m eating lunch right now and saw this video pop up in my recommended right before I went home to download it. It’s ironic but your video is what reminded me that “Hey, I could just use TH-cam like a normal person!” Thanks for reminding me that the website I’m using rn existed as a teaching tool as well 😂
I actually picked up Skillshare for that exact purpose a couple years ago.
I don’t think it’s a terrible service, but it definitely isn’t as great as they make it out to be.
TH-cam is just as effective. Just gotta know how to search
I got something from Humble Bundle at Packthub; like 20 hrs of TH-cam video for 15$; was Okay-ish, but TH-cam still is better
Sorry if this is off topic but why does that say that you have 2 replies
@@alandoyle1077youtube removes the bots but i think the reply number still remains the same
@@alandoyle1077it shows 4 now
I guess it may be not approved comments, or shadow banned accounts
Pro tip, whenever u sign up for a free trial always always always cancel immediately afterwards. U keep the free trial and don’t risk ‘forgetting’ about it and then getting charged for membership.
Amazon Prime have offered me like 10 free trials...every 6 months I get another one, order whatever I want for a month but, as you say, cancel trial immediately after accepting so im not charged.
not ALWAYS. Just allot of the time.
they tried to keep my money i told them id sue them sent them the relevant uk laws that would bend them over a barrel they immediately refunded me lol
That's what I do every single time. Even tried skillshare, thought it sucked, canceled immediately, and had them delete my account, my email address, and any data left saved (which is a hit or miss with some companies).
@@testoftimegaming5219 i thought about that too, my country has strong customer rights so this would never be allowed, but idk this video is probably mostly about the US because i guess they don't have any law protecting the customer?
i really love how many of the prominent sponsorships are getting exposed for doing shady stuff.
Masters of branding and positioning but not much real substance
Welcome to capitalism, it's the reason you are using YT for free...
It's all about the dollar bill y'all.
@@LogicallyAnswered I tried Skillshare years ago, and I 100% agree. If you want substance and actual quality courses I would suggest Udemy or Domestika they seem to actually take their time there, other than that Skillshare is a joke...
@@OU81TWO capitalism, baby. A blessing and a curse.
Rule of the thumb: The moment you see your top six favorite TH-cam channel advertise for the very same sponsor, avoid that sponsor at all costs. None of the sponsors where I saw this happening in the past can hold up to their promises. And companies that must invest that much money into sponsoring cannot be good to begin with. And on top of that, if you become their customers, you pay for all this sponsoring.
You are wise.
Christ... the world we live in.
Not being a dope is thought of as wisdom.
Well there are exception too like NordVPN is actually pretty solid. The thing is that if you’re planing to use what they advertised, read some reviews first just like any other normal product.
Only TH-cam sponsor that I've bought from, was Displate. I like it, but it cost way too much. Though, I'm guessing it's cheaper in the US instead of Canada.
Just to clarify one more thing: I'm not against sponsoring in general. I know many YT channels that have sponsorship and also have the very same set of sponsors for many years and there is nothing wrong with that. But when a new sponsor shows up out of nowhere and within a few months every second channel is sponsored by them, this raises a couple of red flags. Also keep in mind that by allowing one of those mass sponsors to sponsor your channel, you take smaller, maybe way more interesting and better topic related sponsors a chance to do the same. There's nothing wrong if a tools channel is getting sponsored by tool manufacturers or a computer channel by computer equipment manufactures; they can actually integrate the sponsored product into their videos or product tests, which makes the whole thing even more believable. But if your channel is about painting and your sponsor is a VPN service, this seems totally off to me. And especially those are known to throw money at everyone and everything to talk people into their service, when in fact 99% of the time you don't need a VPN service to begin with and the majority of their protection claims are nonsense, which I dare to say aloud as Internet security is what I do for a living; it's not like you wouldn't need any protection, but those services won't provide you with protection you need, despite often claiming the opposite.
Skillshare faced a lot of backlash maybe two years ago when they disabled browsing courses without having a paid/active membership. It was impossible to edit any of your account details (or even deletion) unless you had an active subscription.
If you’re being forced to pay for something without even being able to look at the content or courses they provide, that’s an obvious sign to show their poor credibility.
One of the things I've learned after being on TH-cam for 15 years is that you _always_ look at the things TH-camrs plug with a great deal of scrutiny.
I don’t even pay attention to sponsored ads, just skip it
like better help
Or just skip it entirely same as that Masterworks bollocks.
i skip most ads. especially raid lol
if i start hearing an ad read i auto fast-forward. don't want to hear any of that sh*t.
@@FruityHachi sponsorblock ftw
As a former creator for skillshare I was disappointed they kicked off any science or math courses. I used to teach college level courses in chemistry and math in an online level way. With email support for questions and the like. I had hundreds of students. I would make 800+ a month. Then they booted the courses because they stopped allowing academic like courses.
They seem to not care much about real, pythy courses. Just superficial ones.
What!! I had no idea they got rid of academic courses. I just assumed they would have them like Udemy does.
That’s ridiculous! I always have been a bit skeptical of Skillshare and didn’t see how their content was worth paying for when I had TH-cam and The Great Courses available to me
I need classes like this really bad cause I'm bad at it
Is Skillshare useful to know about, for example, an "X topic" then search about it on your own? I'm just interested on their catalogue lmao
Hi will you still do some courses like this...I would love to use them...don't mind paying for them
What’s bad is these learning platforms make it seem as though learning skills and getting knowledge is like getting goods and services - pay and you get it 100% guaranteed. Which is problematic because - 1. It couldn’t be further from the truth. 2. It somehow cheapens the whole process by not focusing on the subject, but rather on the feeling of being in a learning process. It’s kinda like having thoughts or fantasies about doing something feels better than actually doing the thing. Hate how they exploit it here.
Reminds me of college.
Hey, you're the guy who made that Metallica guitar track. Cheers
It will never beat the number of youtubers sponsored by NordVPN
I mean they’re pretty reliable in general though
Rule of thumb: If something gets advertised through TH-cam-sponsoring, stay away from it. Period.
*this comment has been brought to you by masterworks*
This comment brought to you by raid shadow legends war thunder and the worst of all, raycon
Nebula ist just awful, Curiosity Stream not so much but still scams you for money, Nord-VPN issomethin I as a computer systems engineer woulnd't use if they paid me for it,… and the list goes on. And on and on and on and on and on 😕
@@abdou.the.hereticNord VPN is way worse
EXACTLY. It's all poison.
I love how people are actually shocked and surprised that influencers are being paid to sell you something and aren't just your friend telling about something they think is cool
If you think an influencer is trustworthy, you'd think the stuff they advertise isn't complete garbage. Especially with bigger creators who don't have to take every offer they get.
@@WinslowCD This. Even as a small content creator, an ebike company wanted to sponsor a review for one of their upcoming ebikes on one of my channels (not the one I'm commenting from). I replied saying I'd be interested, but I would do an HONEST review. Never heard back after that...
@@WinslowCD
The issue is considering creators influencers. You shouldn't be influenced by someone just because you enjoy their content, especially when you know they're getting paid. People shouldn't brainlessly buy stuff based on ads.
😂 literally bro what’s the news here
If it didn't work then they wouldn't pay for ads. Doesn't matter if you think it's stupid if enough people don't. Which is why I prefer to call out creators for abusing fans rather than just shrug and walk away. Any history creator who sponsored komiko knives for example are just kinda trash tier people to their fans.
Can't thank an honest youtuber like you enough for bringing this to all of our attention. I was about to sign up for an annual subscription so this video helped me a lot. Thank you.
So first you were going to sign up for because someone on TH-cam said it was a great service. Then you decided not to because another person on TH-cam told you it wasn't. Are you really that incapable of doing your own due diligence?
@@DavidKen878 my man.
@@DavidKen878You expect him to know everything?
@@StONeROP_007 Huh?
He's not honest. He lied multiple times in the video. His channel feeds off the slander of others.
Thanks for bringing this to the attention. When I was interested in SH I luckily was deterred by the insanely high subscription fee, but now I know that even if that were to change somehow, I still should avoid that platform like the plague
Dude, same here.
The other problem with skillshare is that not everyone knows how to teach. When skillshare was being advertised heavily in the youtube art community, it was pushed as a way for artist to make extra money. I signed up because I wanted to learn art and quickly realised that the quality of videos wasn't there.
that’s because it’s like udemy, anyone can create a course
@@FruityHachi Like TH-cam??
The problem really is putting "artist" and "make money" in the same sentence.
@@THE-X-Force What's wrong with that
Same here. I was used to Lynda (now it's LinkedIn learning) for marketing and other business related content, I really enjoyed the platform. I thought Skillshare could offer something similar with art content, which was very limited on Lynda. But the content was very poor. I did find a good Photoshop course for beginners, but that was an exception. I only used Skillshare for the free month, I'd never pay for that website. Later I found creative live, it's more expensive but I like the content. They even have a calendar with live courses that you can watch for free. You can either watch lives for free, subscribe for a year or buy individual courses.
Edit: yes, TH-cam is free and it has a lot of good content. But some very important information/advice/lessons I could only find in payed courses / platforms or at least a very good book. Unfortunately not everything is available for free on TH-cam.
In this sponsor-dependent era, it's a breath of fresh air when TH-camrs are fighting back.
TH-camrs aren't sponsor depended, most TH-camrs that accept sponsors are just greedy and that's it . A lot of them makes more than enough to live a good life off TH-cam alone but they just want more money and the ones who don't make enough probably won't get any sponsors anyways
@@SpikeTaunt lol false...well mostly.
You would need to be getting 100k views per video or more to make any kind of full-time living just on TH-cam adsense alone without sponsors or affiliate marketing or any other sources of income online such as products and courses etc..
The average TH-camr and the vast majority of creators in the partner program only bring in a few hundred dollars per month (if that) on TH-cam ad revinue alone. Good luck quitting your 9-5 on that. But I agree, any sponsored ad should be looked at and never based on the creators review. Do your own research is always a good piece of advice.
@@SpikeTaunt Wow, that has to be the most cynical and misinformed perspective I've ever seen 😂
@@KevinNordstrom This ^
@@SpikeTaunt u don't know nothing about TH-cam do you
I signed up about a year ago to support a youtuber whose content I enjoy. Cancelled almost immediately once I realised how thin the content actually is. And here I'm learning about stuff like the 4-weeks-is-actually-2-weeks "free trial", the "one refund only" policy, and the insane revenue split. All huge red flags. Glad I made the choice to cancel when I did. One thing I've learned (from this and other sponsorship scam revelations) is that if you're seeing endorsements for a particular product or platform being blasted all over youtube across a wide variety of creators/genres, there's a very high chance that the business has questionable practices, a sub-par product, or is an outright scam. The "spend big and cast a wide net" approach is often an obvious clue.
You are wise.
NordVPN, Eneba (and many other key games store but most Eneba), Skillshare, GVGMall...
ALWAYS use a prepaid visa when signing up for these offers. Sign up, take funds off the card and if you forget to cancel it's no problem. great vid 👍🏽😀
A lot of these online services will not accept prepaid VISA cards for subscriptions. I know because I used them all the time.
They can still send debt collectors to your house. Usually they don't bother, but they could.
@@thewhitefalcon8539 I'm never home. 😂
Another option is to cancel right away, as in right after you sign up, as you will often still be able to use the free trial period, and you won't miss any deadline or forget to cancel. I always set a reminder in my phone's calendar of the date of renewal, at the same time as I subscribe, so I won't forget.
@@GeeEee75when I cancel my prime, it usually means the cancel is effective that day :(. But I do exactly what you describe next: set a date a few days before it's expired and I set the most annoying reminder settings so I don't forget. Once audible got me for 5 whole months extra and I was appalled. Had to adapt this strat
I am mostly impressed by this company. They managed to squeeze into a very difficult market with a product that offers nothing new, inferior and for a higher price. And mainly achieving that by marketing it on a competitor that offers a superior solution right in the search bar above the advert itself. Pulling that off is pretty insane.
they simply outsmarted people by being r-words and stealing money. but yeah, i guess they got away with it. its like MrBeast's Honey ads, but money instead of information
Honestly I’ve gotten excellent courses in CAD drawing and arduino from the $20/ month Skillshare. Can you recommend a better and cheaper source for those subjects?
Exactly!! TH-cam is literally right here
@@ROVA00 TH-cam, literally just youtube. Or if you want something more specific, go to a youtuber that offers at least a little of that and check if they have patreon and offer lessons to patreon supporters.
@@ROVA00 idk man, have you tried the very app you comment on? Not being rude, but based on my experience I know theres good arduino courses in youtube and its free and id expect its the same for cad
I would've died laughing if you would’ve somehow managed to get Skillshare to sponsor this video 😂
I'd have to check into a hospital if that happened 😂
I would have also died laughing if he ironically ended his own video with a SKillshare promotion.
😂
I literally was waiting for a skill share promo
This aint jake tran
Thank you for cutting through the bull with such a forthcoming take on this seemingly first-rate platform! I wish there were more creators bold enough to call out these horrific practices and downright abuses!
For me, I think the main angle that I’ve viewed skillshare through is that it was started by a couple of tech bros who worked on digital products. They don’t care about education; they just want to make the next platform that they can turn around and sell to the next investor. Skillshare is just their widget that they want to sell
They wanted to replace youtube for educational videos, which is admirable since YT has many problems, but they didnt do it right.
The worst part is, if you cancel the membership payment within those 2 weeks, it immediately cancels your "free trial". A trial is the risk-free opportunity to try a service, and by definition they are not offering this. This is false advertising.
False advertisement doesn't exist anymore. Its not an end contract, so they can say in their ads whatever they want. Its unethical, but you can thank lawyers for the loophole.
They also don't notify you when the trial is ending and charged me a different price to what I agreed to. I just threw Australian consumer law at them when they refused to refund me and they caved so I got lucky
I noticed that with other places. If you cancell membership he free trial ended that moment aswel. Man everything he so money hungry nowdays
@@Mwstmrlnd they give you a 0 second window between utilising the advertised trial period, and payment being taken, so by definition there is risk, as if you want to make the most out of the trial you don't have time to make a decision before payment is taken.
Think this is bad?? Nebula, BetterHelp, and TalkSpace are even worse!!
TH-cam is an actual gold mine for developers/ programmers! And most of the creators and so passionate about what they do and go the extra mile to help theirs viewers! These TH-camrs are the reasons why I didn't quit college ❤️
Developers, programmers and artists. By artists I mean animators. There are very talented ones on TH-cam
@@Dave_of_Mordor art career stuff in general actually
don't like the sound of TH-cam Premium though....I just use Adblock. No TH-cam ads, ...for free
bot???
Yes!!! I learn how to code houdini and 3d art on TH-cam
I've been teaching myself how to bake and decorate pastries, and while the Skillshare sponsorships have looked enticing, the fact that I have to pay for it has always been a turnoff for me, as I can find plenty of baking/decorating videos on TH-cam completely free, and they've all done me just fine. I didn't need to pay to learn how to make a rose out of frosting. I didn't need to pay to learn how to make the best pie crust I've ever tasted from scratch. The only thing I need to pay for is the materials and ingredients to make the stuff.
And judging from this video, it looks like Skillshare wouldn't have done me much good to begin with. I'm better off just buying a used cookbook!
Years ago (back in 2015) Skillshare reached out to me about teaching a class when I was just starting out as a professional but I turned them down because I was worried it was "too good to be true". For years I beat myself up thinking I should have done it but this video is making me feel better about that decision.
you made a big mistake. Go back and take that offer. in some years to come it will get you lots of good paying consumers.
Don't listen to this guy, you made a good decision keep your money and keep pushing!
@@FANTASYLIFE234 keep your money? There was never a signup fee to become a teacher. I became a teacher a in 2016 because it was the only way for me, to earn affiliate commissions by using my teacher's link.
@@MrMTM4ulol
If they offer you a bigger cut sure go to skill share.
This makes me happy that I almost always ignore sponsors and fast forward. I’m happy to support creators that I love and believe in their work through patreon.
If you watch TH-cam on PC a lot then the Sponsorblock extension might be a godsend to you
if you really wanna skip sponsors, might I recommend the browser extension "SponsorBlock for TH-cam" in essence is skips sponsorship plugs for you, you never have to hear the words "Dark Fantasy RPG" or "The best skill sharing platform" or whatever other dribble these ad reads spew ever again
Look up sponsor block, makes skipping the sponsor spots easier
Smart
I’d like to mention: Raycons are pretty good. Got two pairs myself and I am a satisfied customer. Other than that, completely agree with you!
Thank you for exposing this company's sleazy practices. Fortunately for me, I've become jaded with most of the advertising on these videos. Especially the ones where there's a seven second hack that takes an hour for them to disclose, and then it turns out to be just pills. I'm so disgusted with those type of ads.
I've never used Skillshare before but I always thought it was weird they were trying to charge so much for trying to learn something, when so many channels on youtube upload free educational stuff that can help you with what you are trying to learn. And if you wanted to support those educational channels they will most likely have a patreon page. It's just weird the things they try to sell on there. Especially when most of the videos by celebrities' on skillshare are not editted and so much useless information that doesn't relate to the thing that you are trying to learn
At this point, I've learned not to trust any sponsorship. But I thought SkillShare seemed good! Thank you for exposing the truth.
Why would you think that? It's like telling u to pay for the most boring, albeit most helpful part of the platform they're using to advertise themselves, TH-cam. (Which is free, especially if you watch on PC w an AdBlock)
i just use an extension to skip sponsors at this point bc at least half of them are scams lol
@@Samstercraft77 Don't just tell us that and not say the name of the extension (Sponsorblock)
@@Samstercraft77 Yeah what @itchylol742 said 🥹
Want to learn coding buy OVERPRICED SOFTWARE.
I am waiting...
A few years back I nearly bought a Skillshare subscription when my dad just said, "Why don't you just TH-cam it?" and I was like, "Oh. Right."
Thanks dad.
dad saves ena from financial debt
It’s amazing how much a father figure can do for u
Dad of the decade
@@senny- its either youtube, or the duct tape solution. that's the qualifier of best dads
I think this is what has always kept me from checking out Skillshare, although my extremely disappointing experience with MasterClass was also a factor. Years ago I spent $100 on a "master class" on composing by Hans Zimmer, and it turned out to just be a very expensive, glorified interview about his career where he just name drops most of the time, and then tells everyone that anyone can score a film with an iPad and Garage Band. Ok, great Hans. Thanks. Can I have my money back?
It basically boils down to a predatory company lying to their customers.
I'm a bit late to this but
I just wanna say that i love when i see vids like this
it just tells me that their still are people who will say when other youtubers are just selling out
or in blunter words lying
thanks for making vids like this :)
I used Skillshare last year in November and was charged the annual fee a little over 2 weeks in the free trial as well. I freaked out since I had asked my mom but not my dad to use the credit card to sign up so I immediately contacted customer service and asked for a refund. Thankfully, everything went smoothly for me and I got the refund and the support agent wrote that he cancelled my subscription, but now I'm scared that they'll charge me again just like the girl in the video. Hopefully not, will let you guys know if something happens
Ask your parents to contact their credit card company and tell them the card is lost so could they please send a new one with a different number. Often (but not always) this is free. Otherwise I think there's a fair chance the card will be charged again next year, this is what sketchy companies sometimes do. Another option is to raise a chargeback (due to unauthorized payment) on the card if they charge it next year, but this is a time consuming process and involves filling out forms. Good luck.
@@sl9sl9 well said. @Yosojin. Often it's free but if it's not, pay the credit card fee. It's piece of mind and you can move on with your life. Do what L2 said
Obviously, you need to also cancel your subscription. Otherwise, you will get charged again.
+ they have huge database leaks
@@tariik.h she said she did cancel
As someone who worked in Customer Service for a company with same misleading subscrption system, I recommend you to insist on a refund, mentionning you'll contact your lawyer and pursue the company in court. You can also say you'll expose this to websites and journals. Usually, the company wants to avoid dealing with that trouble and will refund you. But! It will take you at least 3-4 attemps insisting to get a refund
Additional advice. Depending on the company (I had a similar job) you may get a refund if you specifically threaten to contact any of the following: You states Attorney General, the US Attorney General (for non Americans, consider the equivalent to an AG), your bank, or the Better Business Bureau. At the company I worked at those automatically lead to a refund, although we had to pretend we were speaking to a supervisor first. If you really want to make them sweat, get your banker on the phone line for you. They will be willing to do that if they think there's a good chance the charges are fraudulent as the bank isn't willing to go to court over any of this either.
I too had a job answering phones for something like that. Such an awful experience. Constant calls from angry people who felt scammed. I was living in a rural area and it was the only job hiring
Isn’t it legal? I mean, they gave a warning but the customer didn’t listen. That’s like signing a contract you didn’t read, it’s your fault.
@@maxpro751 the subscription is legal, yes. But in cases when the user was charged for a service he has no intention to use and mentions legal institutions, the company may prefer doing a refund, rather then dealing with troubles.
@@maxpro751 It's legal, sure. That doesn't stop people from calling totally angry, feeling misled, and taking it out on the customer service phone rep who had nothing to do with how the company promoted their offer. We also weren't allowed to be snarky and point out where it said their credit card was going to be charged. Even though it is on the consumer to know what they are signing up for, a company will have far better customer retention and people raving online about them if they don't try to pull "gotchas" like that.
I had heard about it forever and always wondered if it was worth it, assuming it was based off of the amount of promotion. Glad you made this video
Tysm I long forgot the golden rule of "if there's much branding be aware, research extensively, however if a person recommends it and there's barely any branding that's way more secure"
I always thought Skillshare was like a university or school of trade type of platform were they put the whole curse organized and produced by an actual professional paid to create that content. I'm so thankful I never got around sign it
same, I thought they at least vet the content on their platform
fr that’s what they always make it sound like: a college or university level class put into video format over the course of multiple videos (“classes”) and so hundreds of hours. In that case the price kinda makes sense cause you’re paying for schooling. Skillshare is just worse TH-cam at a higher price.
That sounds more like The Great Courses / Wondrium
which is exactly what they want you to believe, and what the youtubers advertising them are telling you.
@@heyryanisonx3141 which is exactly like skillshare...
If skillshare is really used for education, they should be endorsed by teachers or professors and not youtubers.
Depends on the subject since some lessons straight up teach about filming or script writing on videos
That's not how advertising works though. They're using TH-camrs for their audience reach.
Anyone can be a teacher though so that doesn't really work.
@@spacebar9733 yea, but not everyone can be good teacher
@@shutup1037 that's debatable.
Great video! Glad to see you point out how valuable TH-cam content is in learning! Like... There are literally videos on how to do/learn EVERYTHING here! Im glad i realised that and didnt sign up for SS lol
I could have overlooked everything else if only the creators received a bigger share than on YT. A monopoly is never good, and that’s essentially the position of YT right now, so I’m eager to support any other platform that might compete with it. But if the competition is worse in every way…
Btw, ALWAYS cancel your subscriptions immediately after entering a free trial. Almost all apps allow you to do it without canceling the trial. That way you wont forget, and you can simply renew if you are satisfied with the app.
Late, but Skillshare is so scummy that as soon as you cancel your trial, it ends the trial on your account. So if you cancel 2 days in you only get 2 days worth. And... If you cancel 2 weeks in, magically guessing before they were going to charge you... You get 2 weeks worth. There is no free month.
Nebula
Your advice about cancelling right away is great. I would also add - check out how you can cancel your subscription before you sign up. Some companies make it absurdly difficult to cancel, and it's easier to simply not sign up in the first place. I'm looking at you, Amazon Prime!
One thing i will add is: If you want to pay the youtubers who make such high quality educational content, do it directly! Whether it is through patreon or a single donation. These people deserve fair pay and often the ad revenue doesnt get there on its own, particularly with niche and high effort videos.
Edit: I thought this was obvious but I was talking about small creators that make things like coding tutorials or other useful educational content that is of the sort that skillshare claims to have. I am not advocating throwing money at youtubers you like willy nilly. I am well aware there are a lot of youtubers that are stupid rich already, but no one is getting rich off their
There are also like a billion variants of TH-cam donations
Alot of youtubers make insane money..,..majority of people I watch all bought new houses, cars etc....and no they dont have another job.....
Why would I pay someone for a vid there alr gettin money
@@thewraith3366 I am talking about people that might be making the type of educational content discussed in this video. TH-cam is not a platform that rewards high quality educational content, and even if it did the reach of someone teaching a programming language or craft technique isnt going to have massive widespread appeal. It also takes a lot of effort to effectively teach, particularly in a non interactive format. So the vast majority wont be getting paid what their work is worth from ad revenue.
@@erinsmith2713 For the vast majority of people that are youtubers and spend a significant amount of time and effort on their videos ad revenue will not net them even minimum wage considering the time spent on it. The numbers really vary but the numbers I have seen thrown around most is $3-5USD per 1000 views. (You will see $18usd per 1000 being thrown around but this is for ad views rather than video views, 3-5 is taking ad skips and ad blockers into conderation). Also some youtubers get demonitised or age restricted for talking about certain subjects even if it is educational which would lower that a lot. Obviously I wouldnt give extra money to someone that already makes gets millions of veiws a video, but thats not really who I am talking about.
Thank you so much for this. I did a free trial (and did cancel in time) and as someone who has done nearly every craft and every style of food preparation that I eat at least once and am reasonably competent in all that I didn’t realize were definitely not for me I both didn’t find much that was new and kept thinking I must’ve missed something because the ads by people obviously skilled in at least 1 craft who have mentioned capabilities in at least 1 other…
People need to learn about charge backs. If a company takes your money without you knowing your back can pull it back from them
I tried Skillshare just for the reasons you mentioned: it was the sponsor of a channel I like, used their link then tried out the website. Since I'm not American, I have a bit more rights against predatory business practices and also used a virtual debit so they couldn't even bill me, even if they tried to. I quickly realized that the site is just way worse than TH-cam and didn't bother with it any longer. Then I read the horror stories and I was glad I dodged a bullet.
There’s a lot of services in the US that let’s you use a virtual card, but their not common from a commercial bank and there isn’t any legislative regulations requiring it, but it’s not like it’s foreign in the US either.
Yes, I recommend a virtual card to force stop payment to a service.
@@iridium8341 He said There’s a lot of services in the US that let’s you use a virtual card, but their not common from a commercial bank and there isn’t any legislative regulations requiring it, but it’s not like it’s foreign in the US either.
@@blakebeaupain What?
@Benjamin Farrington What?
$168/Y? I wish. Since they started doing regional pricing, my subscription went from $96 to $1200 over the span of a year. When I emailed them about this, they just confirmed it and then tried to push me towards a "65% off Annual" promotion. Absolutely insane.
😱 What region are you in that they want to charge you over $1k? 🥲
omg!
@@simonspethmann8086 northern Europe
How is it so expensive for you? I'm living in northern Europe right now and it cost me 32 euros for a year..
@@PeterCaptainObvious What? How? o_O Are you in Latvia? Cuz they group that with Eastern Europe (= poor communists who live in hovels, according to the US)...
Video is very informative and put well together. The only problem is the editing choice of sfx. I would say you need to either mess with audio adjustment for the "typing" effect for the white font wording or space out your sfx so it is not overwhelming. Other that nice video
I’m thankful for this video coz a while ago I was thinking of trying out the free trial thinking I’d get more out of it than I do on TH-cam. Not only is it not worth it but they’re scammers too. No thank you.
Thank you for making this video. Watching from South Africa 🇿🇦.
Well\, considering all those VPNs, fake scottish titles, Filmora controversy and now this... I feel even justified treating all YT sponsors as plain scams. Thanks for informative video :D.
Almost all ads are. They prey on gullible people who don't know much about a subject. I mean in the 90s some food companies convinced most of the western world to exchange relatively healthy animal fat in their dies with processed sugar. Took people 20+ years to de-brainwash most of the population from that bullshit.
It's why I got the Sponsorblock extension.
@@85therealdeal how does that work lol
what happened w/ filmora i forgot
@@subscheme Users submit timings so that other users of the app get to skip the sponsor plug. You can submit your own timings on YT videos if others haven't. Honestly, I rate it as the 2nd most valuable browser extension after Ublock Origin.
I tried skillshare through the link of one of my favorite TH-camrs, to support them. Thankfully I didn’t have any issue canceling but what really struck me as strange was how short the content was. An “entire course” was only 10 to 15 minutes long because all the videos were around 2 minutes or even less.
Also, I thought they were so few courses because they were curating who could post or they choose them themselves, it’s definitely worse than I thought.
Exactly! And much of the stuff I could find on TH-cam. I also used a free month promo, and I'm glad I didn't pay.
That depends on the teacher. My courses I taught were 30 mins to 1 hour.
@@michaelwatson9089 i have no idea how can you call something so short as 1 hour as a course, this is just dumbness
Hard agreed. I looked at the site as a whole, trying to see if some of my favorite topics that I was interested in learning had good classes. Everything there were beginner's courses, introduction to this or that, and the like. Stuff I already knew. It just is not "the place to learn" like people are pushed to advertise them as.
@@abidtahmid773 dumbness 💀🎉
naw but seriously, I think it partly depends on where you're from --- "course" means a series of lessons in some places, but I think it may mean anything upwards of a comprehensive lecture in others
(btw i hope i didn't come off too rude, "dumbness" is just a funny way of expressing your sentiments, i don't mean to make fun of your English)
Great video! My wife's credit card keep getting charged by Skillshare even though she has already cancelled it. And now she also got lots of spam emails from skillshare. I should have watched this instead of trusting those TH-camrs.
I totally agree with this!!! Thanks so much for making me feel like I'm not the only one to feel this way
As a TH-camr, I am also reliant on sponsors to help pay the bills. But I think content like this is very valuable and a great way to inform viewers about the truth about sponsors. Because let's face it - as much as TH-camrs try to keep it real, we'll never say a sponsor sucks when they're paying us.
No disrespect but that's pretty shitty. You're in a privileged position to have an audience and frankly, they deserve better. Only reason those sponsors pay you is because of your audience.
Good thing there are other youtubers who don't intend to use their audience as a paycheck so their fake job can pay the bills.
@@acatwithaids5398 Any person or group who relies on their platform and audience will use it as a paycheck no matter how authentic it seems
@@artdeco777 one can monetize their platform without victimizing the audience members in the process.
@Thomas.Patrick.Pearl.very eccentric take
The thing you can't forget is that if a free trial asks for a credit card, it is not free.
I had a phone operator company send me a check after I cancelled my monthly contract officially and got mailed and called several times on my new provider. "For not paying contract." I sent them to hell after throwing the checks on a customer support desk and asking if they want legal ramifications. I never got a check from them again, nor did I have to pay the other fees for a service that didn't exist. Sometimes you have to be rough with these people... and I hate it.
Eharmony is trying to chase me for money and I refuse to let them intimidate me!
Are you saying they sent you a check (money) and sent you bills? Or are you using the word "check" as if it were interchangeable with "bill"?
@@AdeleiTeillana They kept sending me requests for monthly payment for a service I did no longer have a contract for, nor had access to. And they called me a few times about my "debt".
@@foxman105 OK, so they didn't send you any checks, they sent you bills. A check is a form of payment. If they sent you a check, you could take it to a bank and cash it (get the money from it).
@@AdeleiTeillana Alright. Thanks for clarification. I'm not a native speaker. Check and Bill are interchangeable in our language. I'll try to remember this.
One thing that was available to me during an internship was called Pluralsight, and it seemed like a better Skillshare from what I saw in the video here. Didn't bring me enough value to pay for it myself once the internship ended, but it had a lot of good stuff on there.
Fantastic video. I'd love it if this became a series about different popular sponsors like Squarespace, Established Titles, various VPN services, etc.
1. ANY sponsored ad is always to be taken with a grain of salt, no matter how "credible" a creator is. At the end of the day the creators' rent depends on it.
2. Subscription services care about one thing and one thing only: getting you to sign up and put down a credit card. Period. After that they'll do their best to keep that monthly revenue coming, even if it means you have to step through fine-print hell.
Agreed - there are plenty of subscription services I like (if you're talking about education, I think O'Reilly is worth it for technical stuff since their books are like $40-60 a pop and their subscription is like $200-300 on Black Friday. It's expensive but you actually get value from it.) but I wouldn't touch most creator shilled things. The only thing I can really positively say I bought was Nebula but that's because it's so cheap. $20 a year and if I watch a handful of Nebula only videos it already made up for it.
I'd never touch Skillshare, Pluralsite, or any of those video heavy services when TH-cam exists (for learning). I did try Brilliant and really liked it but couldn't justify how much it costs. Not worth it when I can go to Khan Academy. If they'd lower their cost I'd probably consider it.
PHAX
It's like a gym membership: they want you to pay the monthly/yearly fee and then actually NEVER use the service.
Also the creators might just not do enough research or not find info about something or assume it's a good thing if their big creator friends recommend it, etc. Some good creators advertise things that aren't the best if they just know they aren't harmful and have some value and trust the viewers to make the right decision for themselves for example too
the reason i would skip all sponsored segment by a "paid service". at the end of the day they will rip you off no matter what, because they have your bank account info.
im actually curious though, could you apply a card that has 1$ or 0$ in balance and will automattically deny payments because it'd put you to debt?
Despite several of my fav youtubers plugging Skillshare, I never checked it out for several reasons:
1. I learned long ago to "don't believe the hype."
2. If I'm to believe the hype, the hype should come from many varied sources. The fact that I never hear of Skillshare outside of youtuber sponsorship ads indicated to me that it may not be all that. (Glad that my instinct was right on this 😄)
3. I already pay for too many streaming services, and I don't need another one, even for "educational" purposes. 😅
@@FingerDawg Of course they don't give a flying fuck about me. I don't know them, they don't know me. I'm under no illusion they're personally looking out for me. Almost all the ads are people lying blatantly to my face. Why would it be any different when some youtubers, even my favorite ones, are reading the copy? I take what I like from them (information and/or entertainment they provide), and spit out what I don't like from them (them reading sponsorship copies). That's all there is to it.
@@TonyCrenshawsLatte same. If like a creator enough to want to give them money, I'll buy something they've personally done like merch or a brand collab (though I've found the latter to often be disappointing too 😂)
Why are there 3 replies but 2 available to read
When I was younger, I was naïve and thought that greed and promoting shady products was something that only Hollywood celebrities and the elite did. When TH-cam came around, I was happy because I felt that this now gave power in the hands on the average person and they somehow would behave differently. It's been very depressing to realize that, once regular people reach some level of fame or financial success, they make the exact same kind of decisions that greedy celebrities get called out for.
I agree with you like youtube has that one their platform to but the only thing that is wrong with it on youtube is it's hard to find and great video man :]
My personal experience:
-Used a promo link from a TH-cam video (30 days free).
-Went to cancel after 28 days and they offered another free month.
-Took the extra free month, went to cancel toward the end, was given ANOTHER free month.
-Total of 90 days free, then canceled without issue.
Personally, I did NOT get charged early at any point, nor after canceling.
Usefulness:
It had a big focus on Adobe, and I wanted to learn Premiere.
TH-cam has more content but it was nice to have videos laid out in the form of complete courses so that I didn't have to bounce around youtube hoping I wasn't missing any essentials.
Now I'm great with Premiere and didn't pay a cent.🤷
Maybe mine is a rare experience, but it was a good one.
*please note I've never had SkillShare as a sponsor.
Pretty much my experience: 2 month trial, gave me a third month free, canceled afterwards.
It was the same for me too. You just have to make sure to remember when to cancel.
Like Established Titles promo codes.
I also have had a good experience. Learned graphic design and the teacher actually looks at the work you post and makes suggestions.
This is a good example of "if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is". The shady practices are just so disgusting. So many companies doing this lately.
It's a bad example of that. It doesn't even sound that good. $32 per month for content that's supposed to be somewhat better than TH-cam would already not be that great value, yet alone it being worse quality.
@@NaudVanDalen how It worse ?
Someone said something about Magic Spoon sponsors. In the sponsors, they were told that the taste of their cereal is exceptional. But the reviews counter this, and they would rather buy Cheerios, Lucky Charms, and Froot Loops.
I watcha lot of your videos but I'm so glad I stumbled on this one.
I've been thinking about signing up for a few months and was close to getting a subscription.
Thank you so much for this video! I tried out Skillshare once and the content was just subpar. Thankfully I did not fall into the payment trap, but hearing this I realize that skillshare is so so so much worse than what I thought, and I already hated it lol
My partner bought Skillshare for a while to learn sewing and making your own clothes, became pretty obviously early on that the quality of courses and videos on offer was no different than what was freely available on TH-cam. If the content was vetted and consistently high quality then the argument could be made for its existence - finding the nuggets on TH-cam often requires a lot of sifting through the chaff, so to speak - but it really isn’t. That alone makes it a nonstarter, really.
"sifting through the chaff" -- TH-cam made that harder when they removed the dislike button :(
Tbf literally no one wants that. If you remove the fluff, you're left with something no one feels motivated to do. All formal education is like this
Also youtubers who make content for it have no incentive to dilute their brand and only present the bare bones information which could then be more easily copied
@@Kelson01there is browser extensions to see the like/dislike ration. i use it.
Not only there are fake sponsorships that get TH-camrs hacked, but also actual companies doing shady stuff. I feel bad for these TH-camrs. This right here is why I'm so skeptical especially seeing said companies get pushed into viewers faces. I'm glad I never respond to spam emails back when we used to have private messages directly on TH-cam.
Don't feel bad for TH-camrs they don't care what sponsorship they get as long their getting bank they don't give a shit. Until the company gets called out then they give a shit to save face.
@@Diet_sprite A good amount do actually
@@Clairavoya they don't care if they did they would have kept their distance from better help and lass pass cause their are vids of people critizing better help and lass pass got hacked from using outdated server some ordinary games talked about lass pass hacked plus nord vpn steals data from people and sells em. You can't put your Faith on a TH-camr, they don't care. Bottom line is that their in it for cash which is okay but they got to do some background checks before they do that.
Neroscinema, a call of duty content creator, got his account hacked recently by opening up a brand deal contract to only find out that his youtube account got hijacked and replaced with a fake Elon musk crypto scam. All he did was open a pdf file that he says it's usual standard to doing brand deals and nothing seemed out of the ordinary because he does it all the time.
I think the only youtube ad I’ve bought was catalina crunch and that was just for gluten free mint oreos now i can just go the hellish place of walmart
TH-cam is the best platform and I have always learned lots of new skills and used it as a learning aide when I was in college. Great video! I used Skillshare for a year and I did like the downloads you could get when you did a drawing course. Honestly you don’t really need it
What you've done is an enormous public service. Keep up the good work!
This is astonishing of how much TH-cam has to offer compared to others
It's why no other video platforms have lived longer than a few months. TH-cam will likely forever rule the online video market.
@@Absorbant For the videos it allows, it's not ruling out PHub and such.
I’ve always preferred Udemy to Skillshare because you pay per-course (there are many sales and specials throughout the year), get certificates you can use to advertise your training, and you can connect with the instructor directly if you’d like.
Udemy certificates are as useful as my vocational school certificate
i was going to say the same thing. i have courses that i haven't been able to finish due to time constraints but since it's pay per-course i know i can resume them whenever i want which for me is the biggest advantage of udemy
@@BichaelStevens true lol
The certificates you get from udemy are, sadly, pretty much useless. It simply says you participated, nothing more. But its still a good thing to do for yourself and you can include them into CV's, just dont do the mistake and look at them like real certificates because they're not and most of the time noone will take them serious.
@@Jillberto Edx certificates can help with that
Wow, I immediately subscribed after watching.. I was always curious about why so many creators in many different genres do sponsorship deals with that company.
Yeah, I'm not committing to an annual subscription ever again. I'd rather pay per course, keep it, and learn at my own pace.
Please don’t go to any creators who have been sponsored by SkillShare and harass them, there’s a pretty good chance they had no clue of the truth or just trying to make a living.
Don’t shoot messenger, shoot the guy who sent the letter.
yeah unfortunately you can't make a living on youtube without sponsorships... that being said tho, whoever is still shilling skillshare after their exposé deserves to lose subscribers.
Creators already spend hours laboring on their videos, they barely gave time to do research on every single sponsor they get
This includes established titles, and other scams
The creator has no idea they are scams (their research will probably turn up nothing as the misleading advertising also affects the creators too: it says so on their site and have no legal knowledge of what is false advertising and what’s legally binding + fine print)
If creators promoting something they don’t even use, how credible their content would be?
Sftu clown
send the headquarters a pipe boomboom
This channel is underrated for the amount of efforts put in research and video cinematography
This channel feels like watching a mini cold fusion episode.
Really appreciate it SanziL!
it has always been like this: whatever is advertised on youtube is a scam in one way or another. stay sharp brothers
Brave browser has been decent on me.
i had my doubts in the past when i saw a lot of youtuber creator in skillshare, then I said to myself lets wait and see if this site will stay stand on feet for long enough, and now this video prove it.
I was pretty fortunate, I was aware of the 14 day thing when I tried the trial so I was able to cancel before getting charged, but only because I was warned by someone else. I experienced pretty much what you described, a mediocre and hard to use platform that had meager content that I could easily find on youtube.
I was focused on using skillshare to try to improve my art for my 14 days, and watched videos from 3 or 4 creators who fit my needs, pickins were truly slim compared to youtube. In the end I feel like I wasted my time, they only really had beginners art courses where I needed something more advanced so I was only learning things I already knew.
It definitely felt like a grift.
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I have never used Skillshare, but every time I see it all I ask is this "Why?", the thing is that TH-cam already has all the information needed when it comes to tutorials when it comes to tech, repair, cooking, sewing, cleaning, pets, basically you name it it'll be on TH-cam and all you need for that is an internet connection.
Let those r.words spend their money however they want.
IDK about Skillshare but platforms specialized for learning have they're market share, for example Udemy.
The main perk is cutting through searches through clickbaits and overlapping content by getting a comprehensive course with an instructor to contact.
This might not be relevant for casual viewer/hobbyist, but as a professional trying to not only learn but to master a new skill, this is can both yield better results and save time... And time is money. 🤷♂️
Easier to reach the teacher if you need help or stuck on a problem and most reply back to a comment that has an issue. TH-cam some of them don't reply back and if you need help some of them would sell you a course to join their discord or Facebook group for the support.
@@thebrowhodoesntlift9613 nah skillshare is just ass bro
@@AA-lz4wq cant even say r*t*rd because youtube started removing comments cuz of that like oh my gosh
I like the promoters who imply a few Skillshare classes can teach you Quantum Mechanics or Graduate-Level Mathematics.
I am so glad my mom wasn't around to see the ads. It's exactly the kind of thing she would repeat what they just said, and, if I don't do it, she'll tell me and anyone who will listen that I don't want to learn things.
This is why you shouldn't promote a product unless
A. You genuinely use and like it already
B. You are qualified to recommend it (like TH-camrs with no experience in psychology/psychiatry recommending BetterHelp)
Too many influencers accept a pay check and don't do a quick check, before telling thousands (sometimes millions) of people to give their money to it
Betterhelp is worse than skillshare tho. Check out videos on that
Influencers (what a douch term) just making money. It is those millions of users who are must to think for themselves at least sometimes
Some do it as a neccesary evil, though i do agree that one should use it so that there's a bit more honesty in that.
Oh gosh is betterhelp a scam too? I watch a psychology youtuber who was sponsored by betterhelp
@@mouhiazeck pretty sure it is a scam unfortunately...
They did that to me too lol, I got charged for the second year after canceling the first year before the 1 "free" month ended. I am so happy finally someone is talking about this.
Sorry to hear that man. Hopefully they'll change that policy.
That's probably why they don't accept prepaid cards..
@@andrewwafae prepaid card?
You should probaly cancel your credit card and get a new one as they may bill you again ;P
@@asclepius.dionysus You can create disposable one-time cards with as little money in them as you'd like
Basically you put like a few dollars for verification so that it doesn't get mistaken by banks for fake credit card info but less than the price of a monthly subscription so they can't charge you when the trial ends
I just ended up hitting that Subscribe button, I like the topic you are covering! Great job man. I do hate it when I'm watching a YT vid then around the halfway point, I get hit with a Damn Skillshare commercial! I literally just fast-forward a minute or a minute and a half forward. 😂😅
Computer science engineer here 🙋♂️ I would rather watch free videos by Indian teachers on TH-cam. They explain better than anyone also better than any university.
everyone learns from them they are the gold mine of YT ❤
True! I studied math and learned a lot from Indian teachers… except for instances in which they switched to Hindi halfway during some videos 😅
Valid points. I had a Skillshare subscription for a year and hardly used it, because I tended to find better content on TH-cam. That being said, I do appreciate the focused workspace and practical learning process of online course platforms. If TH-cam added that, it would immediately put skillshare out of business. But part of the fun of youtube is going down random internet rabbit holes when you are supposed to be focusing on one thing. It's like jedi training for the ADHD mind.
For $30/month, you're better off just procuring specific courses off Udemy or something. At least with that approach, you can learn at your own pace, since the course already paid for after the purchase.
There's browser extension "Unhook" to turn off recommendations, feed, comments, likes and much more on youtube, to the point that the home screen is completely blank with just a search bar, and a video screen has your selected video with playback controls and nothing else
The next step would be curated libraries of useful videos and automatic blacklist for everything else
Good idea, I'll think of implementing it
@@stryhuns Thanks for the recommendation, I’ll check it out.
By "part of the fun" you mean part of the inconvenient. Still, it's better than Skill Share I suppose.
Yeah. I think there's benefits to a platform thats dedicated to learning but skillshare doesnt seem to be the best for that
Pro tip: If a company asks for a payment method, it's not free. Most subscription-based services are designed this way intentionally. Ultimately, the user is the one responsible for making sure their account is not auto-renewed. Some lessons are learned the hard way.
That may be true in the US, but auto-renewals of supposedly free services are illegal in many other countries.
Just its very easy to forget if someone had opted for a free subscription but auto-renewal option. Especially if its 3 months free or 6 months free spotify subs.
The minute I go on something free... If I see a website asking for credit card details, I leave it.
🔸I literally put a to do list reminder where i see it every day & calendar alarms for amazon prime video..& they thankfully offer to remind you via auto text.
🔹 And sometimes you can still forget but atleast they offer a refund (i havent asked for refund tho so idk if i d get it but still).
You're brainwashed into blaming slimy corporate practices onto the user. Thankfully civilized countries like France and Sweden have strong consumer protection laws which don't push all the blame on consumers and rightfully punish the corporation for shady practices.
In Russia, every bank offers a virtual, aka digital card. It's good for using with subscriptions that work like skillshare. You only credit it with the amount that you're going to pay to the service right before the due time. It might sound cumbersome but keep in mind that getting your money back might be way more cumbersome and time consuming. If there's no money on the card, they can't withdraw it. And if you find the service misbehaving, you cancel the card and issue another virtual card. Some banks provide you with chargeback if you give them enough evidence against the service.
There are some drawbacks implemented by banks though. Some banks link a virtual card to the same account as your main card. Then your only remedy is re-issuing it.
I've got a simple policy: I do not give money to anything sponsored in a youtube video. Ever.
I actually did used Skillshare for like 2 years few years ago. I don't think there's as many youtubers' courses back then. The experience wasn't bad but definitely not living up to the expectation & its price. I did mainly illustration courses and some courses are great. It is quite amazing to see illustrators and artists process on how they do their work. I also like how some of them are project-based so it is quite clear what to do and how to complete something and see the work of other students. However i did find their courses very repetitive and some courses have very low quality. Also i remembered they brought up some even more premium classes which you need to pay extra to join. Not sure if this function still existed or not but I found that pretty annoying. I would say overall it is okay for beginners and people with zero knowledge to start learning but the content is definitely not deep enough for people to develop higher level skills
I have had good experience on Udemy, I feel it's a better app, and it has a lot of content with instructors that have years of verifiable experience. I also enjoyed the forums it gave for the courses you entered
Definitely. I watched quite a lot of art courses in skillshare before but I think they are really for beginners. I mean not bad, but I can watch youtube to get the same info for free.
Ur right, the bulk of the content is for designers, graphics, illustration. There are courses there that were top 10 university level. Something I would not have found TH-cam but again how many people would signup for that.
Ur right, the bulk of the content is for designers, graphics, illustration. There are courses there that can compete with top 10 university level stuff. One course was about generating creative ideas. Some courses like that are not found on TH-cam but again how many people would signup for that category.
As a network engineer I was hoping that skillshare was going to be like CBT Nuggets or INE which take actually pros and good teachers and provide courses that match the certification exams you will need to take.
When I took a look at skillshare it just looked like a worse version of TH-cam.
Whereas sites like INE/CBT will only have a few courses but they will run through a structured process and be super in depth.
The only reason I would use a site other than TH-cam for learning is if they have curated a collection that means I don't have to search around for the content i need.
It's crazy that just 2 days ago I was looking up online classes to improve my seamstress skills and the first thing that came to my mind was skillshare because of how often it's mentioned by youtubers. Then today open up TH-cam and first thing I see is your video! Thank you for making this video and sharing all of this information.
Interesting interest. That's something like tailoring, right?
@Izaya Orihara yes 🙂 I work sewing on military uniforms but I want to learn how to do alterations and tailoring.
i'm trying to get into that too! i'm finding luck with youtube and tik tok. also someone mentioned just getting a sewing book from the thrift and that's a great idea too
Your public library might have more resources available than you think. I can take pretty much every single Coursera course for free by making an account with my library card. I don't know if they have sewing courses, though.
Professional seamstress here. Definitely check out TH-cam videos for tutorials and invest in a beginning sewing book that vocational college students would be recommended to use for classes. Half the time classes are teaching straight out of the textbook anyways!
I managed to get a little bit out of my skillshare. But it took a lot of sifting through subpare classes to the ones that actually offer challenges and provide live feedback. But once they have run their course, yeah, the returns have really diminished, because readily available youtube videos helped fill all the many gaps.
Wow, the people who got paid to advertise a product advertised a product, get this, while being paid! The horror!
Whenever i come across a skill share sponsor i always thought to myself "there's no way they can offer you for money what youtube can't for free" and i was planning on trying it to check if I'm right or not. I'm glad i watched this
Well, yes, they can. However, as many have already commented, every individual learns differently. The distractions on TH-cam without a premium or an Adblock extension are far greater than on Skillshare. All you can do there is learn, and if you have a good teacher, everything is well broken down for your learning speed.
There aren’t always step-by-step courses for what you need on TH-cam, especially when it comes to art.
IRL art courses are super expensive, but with skillshare, you have the option to dabble in a variety of art courses. If you use the free trial well and cancel immediately, the wealth of knowledge you get for free is exponential.
Of course they can, it's called a professional course, AKA full/in-depth course, whereas TH-cam videos are usually either intros, quickstarts or something to cram which is super useful for both complete beginners and those with some experience. Originally I also thought Skill Share was supposed to be a more guided course with a community involved with each step through feedback etc as some course mentioned that, but overall they just didn't have a lot of value. At best it was a way to get a specific course from someone you know who creates high value content, then cancel after you're done.
But for some, just the fact that it's all educational content gives added value compared to yt. There should probably be more sites like Nebula in that case.
I specifically got on Skillshare to learn to paint flowers in watercolour from a teacher I admired. There are some really solid watercolour, drawing and also procreate classes on Skillshare. The problem is, you've got to already be at a certain level to be able to tell the good from the bad. And the classes really range from stellar to craptatious. The worst part is that even the curated recommendations are ... I'd have to use swearwords here.
That being said, atm I'd recommend a class 101 subscription for art classes. The classes by Korean and Japanese creators are some of the best art classes on the internet.
Which ones in specific you’d recommend?
@@ieroine Skillshare classes? For painting flowers? I got started with Joly Poa's classes. Esther Peck, Nina Nyusikart and Anna Bucciarelli are good. Very different styles, so I'd look at the pictures first.
But u can ofcourse find any level teaching on art here on youtube even if u have to search a little
@@ketteu *hm* No. There are many great tutorials on TH-cam and the fundamental techniques get used or mentioned across a wide range of subjects, so you could kind of somehow cobble together knowledge necessary to paint nice pictures, yes. But it's all so much easier, if you've got actually classes that also (and this is important) provide teacher feedback. (By feedback I don't mean the kind of comments you get in Instagram, if any.) For more advanced stuff it's even more difficult to find really good stuff on TH-cam. Especially if you are interested in a certain style or subject. (Obviously you would have to look beyond Skillshare, as well. But it did have some of the styles and subjects I was interested in. Skillshare is pretty good at bridging the advanced beginner/intermediate gap.)
The Procreate classes are also really good, if limited in scope. On TH-cam there are "missing manual" videos and about two people who show how to paint their style...
As for Clip Studio or painting in Photoshop... there's almost nothing on Skillshare that's useable. So it really depends on the subject, too ...
yes but why would you pay for skillshare when you can guaranteed find very good tutorials of it on youtube for FREE? literally you can search the styles you looking for and for sure you find something, or might as well pay for an irl teacher or apply somewhere to truly learn to pain if you wanna spend money why waste it on skillshare lol
Glad i found this video. Now i don't have to doubt my thoughts anymore. Unable to easily find out what it costs already made me suspicious about it's genuine usefulness. I thank you for this quality video.
I has a similar situation with a local gym. I thought I was buying membership to the gym for one month to try it out, missing the fine print that after the one month I paid for ends I will receive monthly bills for the next 12 months.
I tried cancelling. You can't do it via their website even though I have an account tied to my membership there, you have to write an e-mail or call. I politely complained that I did not expect to be locked onto the contract. The representative simply said, "well, you have to cancel 30 days before a new billing period AND pay the cancellation fee" which was around half of the yearly price, though it goes down the more months you have paid from the 12 month period. Granted, it was all in the contract, but it's buried among so much text that it's easy to miss.
(Also the representatives always ask "instead of cancelling the membership, would you like to pass it on to your family/friends?" I politely decline, but honestly I would not wish this kind of service for my worst enemies, haha.)
Cherry on top, apparently if you do not cancel when the 12 month period ends, the gym automatically continues the contract indefinitely. So the 12 months thing is cosmetic, it just goes on and on.