Sustainable? It's not sustainable. The problem is not that these companies need to make profits. It's that they demand to make "multiple times" more profits than previous time, well aware that eventually it becomes matemathically impossible. Yet they keep on promising their investors that they will make "much more money than last already very profitable year". At this point they stopped offering a product rendering the compromises acceptable and are instead going all out with worse quality services while also putting any additional form of monetization everywhere, of which people are simply fed up like no tomorrow. Just today I went to help my old neighbour lady with her brand new laptop to add some stuff here and there... It was *impossible* to navigate in certain pages due to ads completely preventing me to do anything. It is insane.
Just a thought, but why don't the companies use AI to play the ads so they can generate more revenue? Im sure they can figure out how to click the box saying I'm not a robot and to identify traffic lights by now. And, according to VPN sponsorship ads (embedded ads that can still exist in the ad free versions), VPNs are unattributable which means the people giving the ads cannot trace it back to the company (eg youtube, facebook).
@@Kaede-Sasaki When you click the I am not a robot check box it is doing bunch of stuff in the back ground to check if you are a robot like how you use the mouse operating system and many other things
It's the rise and rot of empires. Cable was good, until ads and overmonetization flooded it, and now you can count with one hand the people that still watch it. Social media and TH-cam will face the same fate, and people will leave it in droves, or be smart enough to find better, more fun alternatives. No human being deserves to have half of their free time, meant to wind down and have fun, to be littered with the visual and auditory garbage that are ads.
The solution to that problem already exists: User tracking to serve relevant advertisements. By showing people stuff they are actually interested in buying, you should be making more money than by spamming them to death with useless scam and junk ads.
@@dh510 You have zero knowledge or insite What you are claiming about. Haha what fundamental wrong preditictions. Im Engineer., i have seen the data, and its the opposite what you are claiming. Which im glad over it. And no the average person buy product or service when they need. Which is a FUNDAMENTAL product development based on psychology and demand and need. Which you clearly 100% lack in knowledge or any Common sense as the average normal functional brain with functional rational and logical thinking that avarage person has her, but it seems you strongly lack with those capabilities and basic functions. No you have absolute 100% wrong in your statements.
IIRC, creators get paid more per watch minute from Premium subscribers than with ads. So it's actually one way to support creators better than clicking on ads.
@sarethdarva honestly it's well worth the price with all the stuff you get from yeat it should be part of the base but it's not that bad they need money to run the servers after all
Question: does MOST of those who use ig, can afford to buy RANDOM USELESS things? Answer: most probably most can't. So, why advertise? big companies can afford to lose money, because they gain social media presence. Example: cola puts ads on ig. You don't buy from link in their bio (lol?), but when u go to shop in your city, it puts in your head that they are huge and you should buy with them
we already had an era of ad-less social media, that is how/why it started. so glad I quit insta a few years back, my life didn't end, and my happiness increased
And just like you, most people will stop using TH-cam and all other social media when they realise that these greedy companies went too far with their monetization. People aren't stupid to let these companies do whatever they want. Remember cable TVs already became unpopular before the advent of these streaming sites? They were already started to be called idiot box back in early 2000s.
the whole point of not paying for cable was to skip these ads. if its going back that but just over the internet, than its the same exact thing, even watching it over TV. personally, I 'll watch a lot less. the more breaks in a story or show, the more fustrated I get and rather work on hobbies, or borrow from the library. Music streaming will be whats left for me since ads between songs makes more sense
yep, I remember how excited I was to cut the cable and start getting Netflix DVDs in the mail. honestly if some little start up just repeated that service I would probably go back to it. as you say working on creating with hobbies instead of consuming media is a much healthier life, and the public library system is a really great service.
On demand streaming services and cable networks with a fixed broadcast schedule are nowhere near the same because they have ads. Just because YOU personally bought Netflix because they had no ads doesn't mean that's the reason everyone did, there are plenty of people who don't care about ads and signed up to be able to watch their favorite shows whenever they want instead of waiting for a specific time every week.
@@bruce-le-smith I am going to start downloading TH-cam videos using a utility that works awesome (afraid to say what it is for they'll ban it) and burn them into DVDs and then rent them out. Thanks for the idea! Going to call it "TubeBuster".
And they don't even bother to provide the service. At least cable installs the cable to your home and maintains it. Streaming? You're paying for the internet infrastructure AND for the service. Uber does not give you the car, you have to use your own Social media has the users making the content and they're the ones that profit. Does it make any sense to you? It doesn't to me.
For some, paying for premium probably saves them money (that they're not buying on crappy advertised products -- Instagram is much easier to use via their app then browser, but which hard to block ads on so lot of folk don't block the ads). For concerned parents, disabling ads on any platform their kid has access to is likely very desirable. They're advertisements would be worth more if there wasn't so many scams and poor quality products. Companies should be somewhat liable for what is advertised on their platform so they need to weed out scams.
Companies already profile their customers, they have the responsibility of combing the ads that kids get served. If someone has the impulsivity to buy advertised products, ads are the least of their concerns. They make the adless experience better on purpose (that's why there are free trials). Same as games create grind to make you pay to skip. Your last point reinforces why adblockers exist. These companies are dumb. They shoot themselves on the foot trying to earn more, losing all in the long run. Ads would be loved (they're targatted) if they 1 Acually Worked! 2 Did not lead to unknown/infected pages 3 Were proper made, instead of being psychological manipulation 4 Did not get in the way, because they know you will ignore otherwise.
Honestly Premium is my most used sub by far and if I used any other platform this much I’d be happy to pay. But I’m also not big on most other entertainment and hate ads more than anything.
How many goddamn subscriptions do they think we can pay for???? Every single thing now is a subscription or a “pay us to stop annoying the shit out of you with ads”
Exactly. We actually have a decent amount of money and the subscriptions are out of hand. They need a federal law controlling those and my prediction is that will come.
… you mean you won’t do that, right? Because some people do pay to watch influencers.. movies, tv, concerts and other live performances and shows like gaming conventions.
… you mean you won’t do that, right? Because some people do pay to watch influencers.. movies, tv, concerts and other live performances and shows like gaming conventions.
ReVanced, uBlock Origin, Firefox, Plex, etc... Advertising is inherently cancer, and I'm happy we have these kinds of tools to remove them. Ads don't belong anywhere at any time. Ever. If a business model relies on ads, it doesn't deserve to exist.
@@marvnchAbsolutely! I'm more than happy to pay for content I enjoy. If I pay money in any way at all for a product, there better not be a single ad shown to me in any way.
@@gabe_0x good that you hold a consistent view on this 👍 i somewhat agree but i feel like most people aren't as willing to pay for services so it's a necessary evil to keep sites alive (for example, I'm more than willing to see a few ads for a news article as I won't pay for every single news outlet I read from).
The problem with trying to block users from "skipping" sponsorships is TH-cam or whatever platform has to do it, and why would they do that? They aren't making any money off of those sponsorship deals, and it could piss off a ton of their users and cause them to ditch it in favor of another platform that doesn't block them from skipping ahead in videos. This fear sounds a lot like the fear that TH-cam will put ads into TH-cam Premium, even though it raises the question "what are you paying for exactly if TH-cam Premium suddenly doesn't take away the ads?".
You could say the same thing about creators - if they don't make money, why would they make content? Then if the content is all garbage, then the users leave too as they can't find anything worth watching.
Ads are not what you think they are. Ads are a way to brainwash you, paying to remove ads will work only initially when enough people get on the premium TH-cam, they'll just put ads there. Remember the cable TV, it's not that was free yet it became full of more and more ads over the years.
I personally don’t think that paid social media will last for long unless they have an a free version. At the first sign of a recession the social media subscription will be the first thing to be cut off the budget. I think however, if that’s the future we might see new competitors in video plaforms and making the content free would be the easiest way to undercut the profit-driven giants. - - - By the way, as soon as I find an add annoying I start interacting with it, as they wreck my user experience at least they will support the platform and I get to know all the products that I have to avoid like the plague.
if they do this, it'll be the necessary push i need to finally remove social media from my life. literally the only social media i can see myself paying for is youtube
Firefox browser Ublock Origin extension Return TH-cam dislike extension Privacy Badger extension Sponsorblock extension Dark mode extension An absolute dream setup. No need for the scam that is YTP and clean, streamlined experience both on TH-cam and general web browsing.
End surveillance advertising. Not only is it bad for people, it outsources government surveillance to 3rd party companies who do not follow the same rules as governments.
I pay for TH-cam premium. Think I have for about 2 years. I also moved max and paramount subs directly to TH-cam. Since TH-cam is 90% of what I watch it made sense. Mostly I stay because it comes with yt music which got me to cancel Spotify after 10 years. So for 6 bucks more than I was paying for Spotify I get yt without ads. The reason I started I. The first place? Ads would wake me up due to the huge volume difference when I was sleeping. Cause I always fall asleep to TH-cam. So ads are now gone
Looks like Roku might be looking at feeding you ads when you pause the media that you are playing. This might be on top of what you are paying the streaming services.
Many creators are sponsored these days. Although personally if I see a product that's sponsored by a TH-camr, I immediately think it's very overpriced and poor quality, so I usually put those products on my "do not buy" list.
What does that do, do you think? Google is still taking the same percentage of your premium subscription $$ than they are from advertising. And why do you think Google should host all this content for free? Please tell me you are at least educated enough to know that there is a REASON why top TH-camrs still stay on TH-cam when they have enough money to host their own content, make deals with advertisers and keep 100% of the revenue. The answer is simple...they would take a HUGE pay cut if they did. Google has still never once made a profit on TH-cam. They lose BILLIONS a year on it, actually. Even with the supposed unfair split they take. Fucking hell, Millennials and Gen Z'ers..you HAVE to grow up at some point and stop being entitled toddlers. Don't you realize this sense of entitlement is one of the reasons why your generations have such a high suicide rate. And also why no one is sad about that fact? No..the world should NOT cater to you. You are NOT special, and you never will be.
@@rodh1404 i don't buy sponsored item often either but those sponsorships free up creators to be artisticly free rather than defined by the alghorithms current whims...
When was Zuckerberg ever considered a hero? He was hated right off the bat as a disgusting misogynist, considering Facebook was started as a way to rate women.
@@frederickclause2694 And your partial high school eduation has told you this? Well...that partial high school education and I read some random interne site once.
What this push to get people to pay for ad-less will do is make the vast majority realize what an absolute waste of time most of these platforms are, and DRAMATICALLY kill active user counts. Note, this is NOT a bad thing. I look forward to the day where social media is nothing but a bad dream. For services that ACTUALLY have worth I have zero problem paying. TH-cam is something I've paid for for years, it's easily one of the most valuable subscriptions I have.
As a direct result of this, many people who don´t pirate stuff today, will resort to piracy. AGAIN. Everybody is sooo obsessed with making money, nobody bothers to make viewer´s experience worth the ad hassle.
super intresting. i was on facebook this morning. and i signed off because there was soo many adverts and no posts from my friends. there was heaps of suggested content but actually nothing from the people i followed .
that's not the aim of an advertisement. it's to imprint itself into your subconcious so that a year from now when you see the advertised item you get Deja Vu ( where have I seen it before but can't remember when or where ) that's why ads are terrible for teens/children!
That is all fine and good, but plenty of people have. Believe it or not, the advertising agencies are run by people FAR smarter than you. With far more education and experience in the industry. And they also have actual data...not just their feelings. So they can see that when they advertise, their sales increase and their revenue increases by more than they paid for the advertising. If they didn't, they wouldn't advertise.
What about meals you buy , tshirt , accessories , technology such as android brand new phone , mobile games purchases , online / offline store shop , pet shop
Roku has patented (or it’s still pending) an HDMI port that will automatically detect when you click pause and then load ads onto your tv until you unpause. So for example, if you pay for Prime with no ads and click pause while watching Invincible, you’ll start having ads play on your TV. Louis Rossman has a video on it
An "I honestly don't know the grief" but, when TH-cam Red released many, many years ago. I jumped on that bandwagon and have been a subscriber to that paid service since then and even still now since its renaming to TH-cam Premium.
Paying to use these services was always going to be the inevitable business model. As someone whose been paying for TH-cam Premium for a few years now, (yes, I know there's ways around the ads, and no, I dont care) watching ads now on TH-cam feels foreign and weird. It's also extremely rare that I'd be tempted to buy anything seen in a commercial on any platform, even the ones that track me to the point they know my blood type. But the naturally ad free experience is the way to go, even if I still have to fast forward through some sponsor message.
Part about TV commercials coming w/cable subscriptions isn't really valid in Ametica because nobody watches "Live" unless it's sports so commercials get fast forwarded w/DVR.
i do already pay for youtube premium. if i do see ads on any platform or in any app, most ads are low quality games or just scams. so i do not really look at the ads, if i watch i watch only to see if there is a way to skip, if it makes annoying sound i just turn the sound off. so yes i would pay for no ads, but only if i use the platform enough.
TH-cam premium is totally worth it. Your time saved is immense and removing the distractions is really helpful. If you spend a 1-2 hours a day on youtube per day, I'd say it's a must. You'll see more content and it's a much better experience.
I pay for youtube premium.. have for years... But I don't want to pay for ad-free on instagram or Facebook, since the ads I receive through them are often enough the only way I discover useful or interesting products or services... The key thing I want.. is I want control of ads... I hate mid or end roll force ads on facebook videos and will often close the video straight away as a result (which then causes fb to barely show me that ad type).. Just make the ads skippable if they don't grab my attention... treat them like another piece of content that gets to pay to target people like me instead of the algorithm feeding me based on what I typically interact with...
The thing that separates TH-cam from TV is that you can't install uBlock and SponsorBlock on TV. With the rise of atrocities on different platforms, tech savvy users will switch to web version and use debloating extensions which will rise in popularity and numbers as sites become worse. Although Instagram will be an interesting case since its web version is one of the least functional, severely stripped down sites in general, not just in social media sphere. You can't even receive multiple photos in the DMs or post a story. I wonder if it's all connected and intentional.
For me, social media has been losing its appeal lately. This shift is mainly due to companies imposing their own principles, which is understandable, but I'm not inclined to financially support a company like Meta that censors users and promotes narratives that aren't always accurate. In my opinion, social media has become the modern-day town square and should be publicly owned, where our constitutional rights are upheld. While some may argue that allowing free expression leads to outlandish statements, I prefer that over being restricted in my speech. I'm more inclined to support companies that act as a service without trying to dictate how users engage with it. However, the challenge arises when each platform develops its own culture or style of interaction, which can significantly impact the success of a company, often beyond their control.
Isn't it like $13 dollars a month now for Premium? I would honestly pay for it if it were more a long the lines of $7-8 a month. I give $7 dollars a month to two TH-cam Animators on Patreon each because I admire their hard work and dedication. I feel like that money goes to better places than to just pay for skippable ads I could be skipping for free.
I pay for Premium instead of using adblock because TH-cam content is worth it. However if TH-cam starts allowing unskippable sponsors, I will stop paying for Premium and will instead use the inevitable apps that get around the blocks.
TH-cam premiums well worth it for me. I use it at the gym, audio while I drive and constantly watch it at home daily. There’s more content on it than literally all top 5 streaming sites like Netflix combined and creators upload daily. Plus the time I save per month not watching ads probably adds up to hours. I’d be dumb not to pay for it
I pay for TH-cam Premium because I got spoiled during the old days of Google Music. Every time I have to see a commercial on someone else's account I cringe
Personally, me and my household got the premium family plan back when double ads and unskippable ads started being a thing regularly. And the reason is just the sheer amount of stuff on TH-cam. TV networks have YT accounts and have posted full length episodes or full feature documentaries over the time the platform has been around. I can watch the entire How It's Made series on the TV networks own page, then get bored and watch one of the movies that comes included with premium, and probably get bored again and go watch a small content creator doing a video essay or reacting to memes or something like that. The sheer diversity of types of content is what made the ~$8 for a three way split on the family plan worth it. And before that the $10 was justified for similar reasons. This is basically the only platform I interact with on a regular basis, because this is predominantly a video streaming site more than a social media in the sense of Facebook or even snap chat. I haven't been on either in about 5 years so I don't know what they look like anymore but I never liked them back then and it sounds like it got worse.
platforms were "free" to use because the product was the user. it's not only about ads, it's also about data (which was allegedly sold right and left) and marketing algorithms which they have perfected because of users. there's also ai training now, where did they take all those billions of photos and messages/conversations? from social network platforms (interactions and data created by users, for free). if i am forced to pay for social networks and stuff, but can still use stuff like skype and zoom for free - it'll be enough for me. if free skype and zoom and such will also require subscription - well, i'm already paying subscription to my phone mobile network carrier so i'll be using that, like sms, and for chatting with my international friends - i guess, i can use emails. i wasn't born with a smartphone in my hand so i know life without electronic gadgets is perfectly livable.
I think social media as a platform is a lot more different than TV. It's much easier and cheaper to create your own social media website than to create a new TV channel. If people will start to really dislike current social media giants, we might see new services rise up.
Advertising as a whole has crept into our lives in so many ways. Social media is one of the latest. Go outside and go to a shopping mall. Not only the stores itself use advertising billboards, people walk around with bags with the name of a store or brand on it. People wear clothing with the name of the brand on it. The one reason only why your car carry the name and the type on its back is also for advertising. Seeing it being used is gently poking you to get it too. And the more you see it, the more you are willing to buy it or shop there. If you advertise too much, people get insensitive about it. Once you have take that good looking around for advertising in any way, remember how much your mind normally block automatically.
Don't get fooled by the "adless experience" They will still monetize your data .. double dip by making you pay and also monetizing your data. The consumers never win.
the problem isn't ads themselves, it's that they try to shove any and all ads down your throat no matter how insignificant the relevance. And once you click on one ad once even out of curiosity, be ready to see similar products/services being thrown at you from every direction aggressively for the next 3 weeks. TV is different because 1) ads don't follow you everywhere, and 2) ads are either well-integrated or detached from the content being consumed. Social media sponsorships suck because they peddled to the viewer by the content creators themselves rather than a third-party. And are unimaginative, NordVPN is the same ad everywhere, CoCa Cola on tv makes new distinct ad campaigns constantly and thematically.
I would absolutely be willing to pay $5 a month for an ad free version of youtube. But there's not way that I'm going to be paying more than that. TH-cam would need to improve drastically for me to pay that much.
The problem with paying for a service is that eventually they add advertisements anyway. I would never pay for you to or Instagram or Facebook knowing that that will be the inevitable outcome. Now if these had started out as subscription services, that would be a different story. But knowing they have followed a very old very broken model despite their claims of being new and fresh, I would be very reluctant to give them money for a subscription service. I don't think any of us needs TH-cam in our life. We'll just find another place for our tutorial videos.
Not going to lie. As a youtube premium subscriber for 5+ years im always made fun of because i "pay' for something free. Its SO worth it. Background play, no ads, put on a video and lock your phone. Totally worth it.
I'm gonna give an invaluable advise to the whole tech and advertising industry, free of charge: Everyone hates being bombarded with pointless spam and scam ads. The tracking to make each ad more relevant already exists. 1. Reduce the amount of ads. 2. Make them more relevant. 3. Increase the rates you're taking. 4. Profit It's the simple rule of supply and demand.
Your no 2 point is just asking for more trouble. Asking for more relevant ads just means more surveillance. I hate ads just like most people do, but I am more tolerant of irrelevant ads. The ads I see which seem to be relevant because of surveillance are the ones I am 100% guaranteed not to engage with because they are creepy. I accept to a certain degree are required to support the platform, but I will only tolerate non targeted ads
Believe it or not, the advertising execs are FAR smarter than you in every way. But ESPECIALLY in advertising. They are not looking to you for help. This comment is like Lupus from the Bad News Bears thinking Shohei Ohtani should take his advice on how to hit.
@@FUGP72 Nope, they're dumb, they can't even wrap their heads around the simple rule of supply and demand and just throw advertising money out the window, because "that's how we've always done it".. NEWSFLASH: This isn't the print and not even the radio and TV era anymore, these mediums are dying. Casting a wide net and aiming for as much exposure as possible with your campaigns isn't practical and doesn't even work anymore. Today's customers have more choice than ever and are willing and have the ability to take countermeasures if you annoy them too much. The primitive times of only knowing the general make up of the audience of a TV or radio program or of the readers of a printed product are over. Today, thanks to the internet, you can single out the people you actually want as customers and surgically target them with your message. The only reason we're still being endlessly bombarded with ads is that businesses fear that they will go under and become irrelevant, should they stop, which might even be true in case everyone else keeps going as usual. It's a deadlock the advertisers seemingly can't overcome. But platforms like Google could force them to, by showing less ads which are gonna be more impactful in return.
@@FUGP72Nope, they're literally the opposite of smart, they can't even wrap their heads around the simple rule of supply and demand and just throw advertising money out the window, because "that's how we've always done it".. NEWSFLASH: This isn't the print and not even the radio and TV era anymore, these mediums are dying. Casting a wide net and aiming for as much exposure as possible with your campaigns isn't practical and doesn't even work anymore. Today's customers have more choice than ever and are willing and have the ability to take countermeasures if you annoy them too much. The primitive times of only knowing the general make up of the audience of a TV or radio program or of the readers of a printed product are over. Today, thanks to the internet, you can single out the people you actually want as customers and surgically target them with your message. The only reason we're still being endlessly bombarded with ads is that businesses fear that they will go under and become irrelevant, should they stop, which might even be true in case everyone else keeps going as usual. It's a deadlock the advertisers seemingly can't overcome. But platforms like Google could force them to, by showing less ads which are gonna be more impactful in return.
@@FUGP72 look, I don’t mind being challenged/criticised for an opinion I express, that’s fair enough. But when you do so with cryptic references I can’t respond. I have no idea what you’re talking about and to be honest I don’t 2 s**ts about the whims of an advertising executive. I only care about not be surveilled into oblivion.
You're wrong on the point that instagram or any other social media charges advertisers only when user click on a specific ad or do an action it's charges the advertisers for each "impression" aka ad view and their algorithms optimize the cost to get the action the advertiser wants (buying stuff or simply interaction with the post) by showing the ad to the most likely people to interact with the ad or perform a specific task
Why would TH-cam allow unskipable sponsor segments? Sponsored segments of videos do not bring Youtbe any money (directly), so TH-cam doesn't care if you watch them or not. If you say, "well, TH-cam will just take a cut, then," then why woudl TH-cam not just insert an unskippable ad the way they currently do?
The idea that you need to skip ad after it finishes is frustrating like hands be wet and can't skip and they keep pushing more ,i hate these media now for real
"And eventually people will start wanting to just pay a premium to have a copy of their favorite content always available. Preferably one that the companies don't have to pay to maintain. It would need to be put on a durable but cheap to manufacture medium, such as a plastic backed disk of metal foil." And then the circle is complete.
Growing up it took 30 minutes to watch a ten, fifteen minute show, im used to ads, its time to get snacks, piss breaks.... Google is the only thing that can force cash out of me. Ive stopped paying TH-cam ever since creators started advertising themselves. Reddit was the worst ive paid for
Since ads often contain malware, there might be laws to force broadcasters/streamers, that clickable ads must be blockable by users, for their own security. I don't expect the services to check up every single ad for malicious code. Even an app in the MS app store contained a trojan. You would expect all apps there are vetted, right?
If I have to go back to paying to see content that also continues to advertise me, I'm just going to drop that content. None of these services are critical to my life. If it's inconvenient and miserable I'm going to quickly find something that deserves my money instead.
I've been paying for TH-cam Family for a while now, and it's great, no need to find workarounds to skip ads on my TV that might not work all the time. However, for social media? I might consider paying for it if I get better privacy, but not in the double-digits, that's just stupid.
I think I might be in the minority with social media. When it becomes inconvenient, I just stop using it. It's not important to me. It's just something to experience while on the toilet.
Considering I AM the product on social medias there is no way I'd ever give them a dime. Instagram is really bad with ads, every 3-4 post is an ad and on top 1/3 to 1/2 of the suggested content is commercial accounts and sponsored posts (so basically ads).
Wait. You really think "family plans" will actually work? That's just code for "dad pays for everyone." Not a single soul has ever tossed someone a few bucks to cover their 5th of a subscription.
My revanced stopped working like a week back and I have to revert to original TH-cam... Those two days of using original TH-cam app were the longest. I had to find a way to work on my revanced. It's working better now.
Yeah, cable is a good example of subscription and advertisement revenue but that why people have / are fleeing from it. If the paid version has un-skippable ads people will switch to the free version or change platforms.
I would pay for TH-cam premium, if it wasn't that expensive. I don't care about all the features premium gives you, for me it is dead weight. Give a 5$ option and this looks way more interesting.
Sustainable? It's not sustainable. The problem is not that these companies need to make profits. It's that they demand to make "multiple times" more profits than previous time, well aware that eventually it becomes matemathically impossible. Yet they keep on promising their investors that they will make "much more money than last already very profitable year".
At this point they stopped offering a product rendering the compromises acceptable and are instead going all out with worse quality services while also putting any additional form of monetization everywhere, of which people are simply fed up like no tomorrow. Just today I went to help my old neighbour lady with her brand new laptop to add some stuff here and there... It was *impossible* to navigate in certain pages due to ads completely preventing me to do anything. It is insane.
Agree. Totally agree its Insane!!!!
Infinite growth in any system (biology, finance, agriculture) is impossible. Yet they continue to preach it as though it is a fact of success.
They raised ad rates a lot more hence the trend of profits continuing so far
@@SGarrett1979 your comment is the literal definition of 'poor people mindset'. It is possible if you work hard and smart enough.
you do realize we live on a planet with finite resources and by mere nature our growth is sky-high, but eventually finite?
Jokes on them, im always willing to cancel. We need to take our power back
I only really use youtube. I wouldn't pay for a adless social media service if they are still selling my data.
Fair enough
I don't use social media. They still sell my info through "ghost" accounts
Just a thought, but why don't the companies use AI to play the ads so they can generate more revenue? Im sure they can figure out how to click the box saying I'm not a robot and to identify traffic lights by now. And, according to VPN sponsorship ads (embedded ads that can still exist in the ad free versions), VPNs are unattributable which means the people giving the ads cannot trace it back to the company (eg youtube, facebook).
@@Kaede-Sasaki When you click the I am not a robot check box it is doing bunch of stuff in the back ground to check if you are a robot like how you use the mouse operating system and many other things
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Sounds like something that ai could work around, if it knows.
TH-cam pushed everyone onto ad blockers by trying to force ads at every opportunity
It's the rise and rot of empires. Cable was good, until ads and overmonetization flooded it, and now you can count with one hand the people that still watch it.
Social media and TH-cam will face the same fate, and people will leave it in droves, or be smart enough to find better, more fun alternatives.
No human being deserves to have half of their free time, meant to wind down and have fun, to be littered with the visual and auditory garbage that are ads.
These companies need to increase profits to grow their stock prices and make your retirement account bigger.
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The solution to that problem already exists:
User tracking to serve relevant advertisements.
By showing people stuff they are actually interested in buying, you should be making more money than by spamming them to death with useless scam and junk ads.
@@KRYMauL HA! LOL x 1000. When was the last time share price was proportional to actual earnings in tech!?!?
@@dh510 You have zero knowledge or insite What you are claiming about. Haha what fundamental wrong preditictions.
Im Engineer., i have seen the data, and its the opposite what you are claiming.
Which im glad over it. And no the average person buy product or service when they need.
Which is a FUNDAMENTAL product development based on psychology and demand and need.
Which you clearly 100% lack in knowledge or any Common sense as the average normal functional brain with functional rational and logical thinking that avarage person has her, but it seems you strongly lack with those capabilities and basic functions.
No you have absolute 100% wrong in your statements.
I have to confess I've started paying for TH-cam premium but I'm watching a lot more videos because of it
Same here
Same
You could get the same features of YT premium and more with Revanced
IIRC, creators get paid more per watch minute from Premium subscribers than with ads. So it's actually one way to support creators better than clicking on ads.
@sarethdarva honestly it's well worth the price with all the stuff you get from yeat it should be part of the base but it's not that bad they need money to run the servers after all
just imagine in your mind a free version of youtube 10 years in the future where you get 100 temu popup ads every minute 🤣
😂
That’s death of the platform if that happens.
@@gaara4667 TH-cam died the day Google bought it.
Imagine Adblock
@@charlech If youtube is already banning accounts for using the extension, i don't think it would do anything in 10 years...
Most IG users accidentally click on ads with no intent to buy
I think there algorithms are pretty good at detecting accidental clicks
Question: does MOST of those who use ig, can afford to buy RANDOM USELESS things?
Answer: most probably most can't.
So, why advertise?
big companies can afford to lose money, because they gain social media presence.
Example: cola puts ads on ig.
You don't buy from link in their bio (lol?),
but when u go to shop in your city, it puts in your head that they are huge and you should buy with them
@@LogicallyAnswered no, they just charge for clicks, my business struggled on instagram for this reason
The only time I have ever clicked on an ad on instagram was when it was an organization I didn't like and I just wanted to cost them money
@@someone-mn8or Well you are pure evil but I like that
we already had an era of ad-less social media, that is how/why it started. so glad I quit insta a few years back, my life didn't end, and my happiness increased
And just like you, most people will stop using TH-cam and all other social media when they realise that these greedy companies went too far with their monetization. People aren't stupid to let these companies do whatever they want. Remember cable TVs already became unpopular before the advent of these streaming sites? They were already started to be called idiot box back in early 2000s.
Same in cities that ban billboards. Nothing of value is lost.
the whole point of not paying for cable was to skip these ads. if its going back that but just over the internet, than its the same exact thing, even watching it over TV. personally, I 'll watch a lot less. the more breaks in a story or show, the more fustrated I get and rather work on hobbies, or borrow from the library. Music streaming will be whats left for me since ads between songs makes more sense
yep, I remember how excited I was to cut the cable and start getting Netflix DVDs in the mail. honestly if some little start up just repeated that service I would probably go back to it. as you say working on creating with hobbies instead of consuming media is a much healthier life, and the public library system is a really great service.
On demand streaming services and cable networks with a fixed broadcast schedule are nowhere near the same because they have ads. Just because YOU personally bought Netflix because they had no ads doesn't mean that's the reason everyone did, there are plenty of people who don't care about ads and signed up to be able to watch their favorite shows whenever they want instead of waiting for a specific time every week.
@@bruce-le-smith I am going to start downloading TH-cam videos using a utility that works awesome (afraid to say what it is for they'll ban it) and burn them into DVDs and then rent them out. Thanks for the idea! Going to call it "TubeBuster".
And they don't even bother to provide the service. At least cable installs the cable to your home and maintains it.
Streaming? You're paying for the internet infrastructure AND for the service.
Uber does not give you the car, you have to use your own
Social media has the users making the content and they're the ones that profit.
Does it make any sense to you? It doesn't to me.
For some, paying for premium probably saves them money (that they're not buying on crappy advertised products -- Instagram is much easier to use via their app then browser, but which hard to block ads on so lot of folk don't block the ads). For concerned parents, disabling ads on any platform their kid has access to is likely very desirable.
They're advertisements would be worth more if there wasn't so many scams and poor quality products. Companies should be somewhat liable for what is advertised on their platform so they need to weed out scams.
Companies already profile their customers, they have the responsibility of combing the ads that kids get served.
If someone has the impulsivity to buy advertised products, ads are the least of their concerns.
They make the adless experience better on purpose (that's why there are free trials). Same as games create grind to make you pay to skip.
Your last point reinforces why adblockers exist.
These companies are dumb. They shoot themselves on the foot trying to earn more, losing all in the long run.
Ads would be loved (they're targatted) if they
1 Acually Worked!
2 Did not lead to unknown/infected pages
3 Were proper made, instead of being psychological manipulation
4 Did not get in the way, because they know you will ignore otherwise.
Honestly Premium is my most used sub by far and if I used any other platform this much I’d be happy to pay. But I’m also not big on most other entertainment and hate ads more than anything.
How many goddamn subscriptions do they think we can pay for???? Every single thing now is a subscription or a “pay us to stop annoying the shit out of you with ads”
to be fair they can't really do it any less than that. One subscription per company.
Exactly. We actually have a decent amount of money and the subscriptions are out of hand. They need a federal law controlling those and my prediction is that will come.
Why would we pay to watch influencers 😂
Isn't that what a movie or the news is?
… you mean you won’t do that, right? Because some people do pay to watch influencers.. movies, tv, concerts and other live performances and shows like gaming conventions.
… you mean you won’t do that, right? Because some people do pay to watch influencers.. movies, tv, concerts and other live performances and shows like gaming conventions.
@@Drawperfectcircles They pay because they like an influencer, not because they have to. I feel like there's a difference here.
@@Drawperfectcircles if it's in person sure but not online. The day Instagram starts charging is the day it collapses
Revanced enjoyer here. No one is going to make me watch or click an ad ever again
Its a beauty to use. Especially as I hate shorts with every fiber.
And when revanced stops working lbry will be big enough to replace TH-cam.
@@giant80000I'll just go back to newgrounds if all else fails
@@Sinistar1983that's a nuclear option I can get behind. Newgrounds was the best
I just use brave. Idk whats going on, but I haven't had any issues in several months, maybe youtube just stopped trying to take down ad blockers idk
ReVanced, uBlock Origin, Firefox, Plex, etc...
Advertising is inherently cancer, and I'm happy we have these kinds of tools to remove them. Ads don't belong anywhere at any time. Ever. If a business model relies on ads, it doesn't deserve to exist.
Dang, savage take haha
Based
are you going to willingly sign up to the ad-free tiers then?
@@marvnchAbsolutely! I'm more than happy to pay for content I enjoy. If I pay money in any way at all for a product, there better not be a single ad shown to me in any way.
@@gabe_0x good that you hold a consistent view on this 👍 i somewhat agree but i feel like most people aren't as willing to pay for services so it's a necessary evil to keep sites alive (for example, I'm more than willing to see a few ads for a news article as I won't pay for every single news outlet I read from).
The problem with trying to block users from "skipping" sponsorships is TH-cam or whatever platform has to do it, and why would they do that? They aren't making any money off of those sponsorship deals, and it could piss off a ton of their users and cause them to ditch it in favor of another platform that doesn't block them from skipping ahead in videos. This fear sounds a lot like the fear that TH-cam will put ads into TH-cam Premium, even though it raises the question "what are you paying for exactly if TH-cam Premium suddenly doesn't take away the ads?".
You could say the same thing about creators - if they don't make money, why would they make content? Then if the content is all garbage, then the users leave too as they can't find anything worth watching.
Ads are not what you think they are. Ads are a way to brainwash you, paying to remove ads will work only initially when enough people get on the premium TH-cam, they'll just put ads there. Remember the cable TV, it's not that was free yet it became full of more and more ads over the years.
They'll do it like Netflix where you have to pay at all to get any service and pay more for no ads.
@@LostSoulchild89 And that's why when you find an amateur made video it's usually more entertaining.
I personally don’t think that paid social media will last for long unless they have an a free version.
At the first sign of a recession the social media subscription will be the first thing to be cut off the budget.
I think however, if that’s the future we might see new competitors in video plaforms and making the content free would be the easiest way to undercut the profit-driven giants.
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By the way, as soon as I find an add annoying I start interacting with it, as they wreck my user experience at least they will support the platform and I get to know all the products that I have to avoid like the plague.
if they do this, it'll be the necessary push i need to finally remove social media from my life. literally the only social media i can see myself paying for is youtube
That's where I'm at right now. Its worth it.
I'd probably drop youtube too and maybe go to Brilliant or Nebula
YT is the only "social media" I use. No FB no IG no Twitter
Well mastodon does not have adds because every instance owner pay for their own hosting. No corp involved.
Firefox browser
Ublock Origin extension
Return TH-cam dislike extension
Privacy Badger extension
Sponsorblock extension
Dark mode extension
An absolute dream setup. No need for the scam that is YTP and clean, streamlined experience both on TH-cam and general web browsing.
And firedox with these extensions is also available on mobile(Android)
End surveillance advertising. Not only is it bad for people, it outsources government surveillance to 3rd party companies who do not follow the same rules as governments.
Whelp, guess I'll pirate.
I pay for TH-cam premium. Think I have for about 2 years. I also moved max and paramount subs directly to TH-cam. Since TH-cam is 90% of what I watch it made sense. Mostly I stay because it comes with yt music which got me to cancel Spotify after 10 years. So for 6 bucks more than I was paying for Spotify I get yt without ads. The reason I started I. The first place? Ads would wake me up due to the huge volume difference when I was sleeping. Cause I always fall asleep to TH-cam. So ads are now gone
I can’t remember the last time I watched a TH-cam ad… I am a person that would pay to not see ads.
Looks like Roku might be looking at feeding you ads when you pause the media that you are playing. This might be on top of what you are paying the streaming services.
I bought 2 dumb TVs to keep in my closet for after my current one fails, and then after that one fails
I'll never buy another Roku anything if they do this.
I would rather the creators on youtube make money off of ads than youtube but thats why I pay for youtube premium.
Why not just use an adBlocker.
Many creators are sponsored these days. Although personally if I see a product that's sponsored by a TH-camr, I immediately think it's very overpriced and poor quality, so I usually put those products on my "do not buy" list.
What does that do, do you think? Google is still taking the same percentage of your premium subscription $$ than they are from advertising.
And why do you think Google should host all this content for free? Please tell me you are at least educated enough to know that there is a REASON why top TH-camrs still stay on TH-cam when they have enough money to host their own content, make deals with advertisers and keep 100% of the revenue. The answer is simple...they would take a HUGE pay cut if they did. Google has still never once made a profit on TH-cam. They lose BILLIONS a year on it, actually. Even with the supposed unfair split they take.
Fucking hell, Millennials and Gen Z'ers..you HAVE to grow up at some point and stop being entitled toddlers. Don't you realize this sense of entitlement is one of the reasons why your generations have such a high suicide rate. And also why no one is sad about that fact? No..the world should NOT cater to you. You are NOT special, and you never will be.
To add to this creators say they make way more (10+ x) per view from premium members than non premium
@@rodh1404 i don't buy sponsored item often either but those sponsorships free up creators to be artisticly free rather than defined by the alghorithms current whims...
meta ceo used to be people's hero when he started his facebook and now became the most hated social media owner
I don't know, Elon is pretty up there too. If you still consider "X" or whatever to be "social media" and not a hate speech echo chamber.
When was Zuckerberg ever considered a hero? He was hated right off the bat as a disgusting misogynist, considering Facebook was started as a way to rate women.
I believe that it's called greed. Also corporate America only cares about this quarter. There's no such thing as a long term plan any more.
@@frederickclause2694 And your partial high school eduation has told you this? Well...that partial high school education and I read some random interne site once.
@@FUGP72 Thanks for the laugh, I needed that.
The dramatic music on this is fucking hilarious when you take a step back and think for a second we're just talking ad business
😂
it does the job tho sub consciously we are engaged till u realize
Society runs on advertisement now.
I think is pretty severe
Cashflow negative but still has YT premium gang 👇
This mf bought TH-cam premium 🫵😂
I unsubscribed when they stopped calling it youtube red
@@johnmccarthy9529💀
What this push to get people to pay for ad-less will do is make the vast majority realize what an absolute waste of time most of these platforms are, and DRAMATICALLY kill active user counts.
Note, this is NOT a bad thing. I look forward to the day where social media is nothing but a bad dream.
For services that ACTUALLY have worth I have zero problem paying. TH-cam is something I've paid for for years, it's easily one of the most valuable subscriptions I have.
As a direct result of this, many people who don´t pirate stuff today, will resort to piracy. AGAIN. Everybody is sooo obsessed with making money, nobody bothers to make viewer´s experience worth the ad hassle.
super intresting. i was on facebook this morning. and i signed off because there was soo many adverts and no posts from my friends. there was heaps of suggested content but actually nothing from the people i followed .
i Have never in my life bought something from an ad
that's not the aim of an advertisement. it's to imprint itself into your subconcious so that a year from now when you see the advertised item you get Deja Vu ( where have I seen it before but can't remember when or where ) that's why ads are terrible for teens/children!
That's not totally accurate
That is all fine and good, but plenty of people have. Believe it or not, the advertising agencies are run by people FAR smarter than you. With far more education and experience in the industry. And they also have actual data...not just their feelings. So they can see that when they advertise, their sales increase and their revenue increases by more than they paid for the advertising. If they didn't, they wouldn't advertise.
What about meals you buy , tshirt , accessories , technology such as android brand new phone , mobile games purchases , online / offline store shop , pet shop
Well yeah you only shop at the flea market
Roku has patented (or it’s still pending) an HDMI port that will automatically detect when you click pause and then load ads onto your tv until you unpause. So for example, if you pay for Prime with no ads and click pause while watching Invincible, you’ll start having ads play on your TV. Louis Rossman has a video on it
I'm glad they have a patent. That means no one can copy them - so when I switch my travel to another platform, Roku can go screw themselves.
it is not about being sustainable or profitable, it is about trying to grow infinitely as capitalism suggests.
If I'm paying for social media, they better not be selling my data.
i’ve had youtube premium for years cause i hate ads so much. if they put unskippable ads IN premium, i would just quit youtube
Some of the early viewers of this video 😎
Love your content, just keep going.
Thank you bro!
Can't believe there used to be a time where social media was authentic. Now everyone is trying to sell you something
Fr, good times
It was kind of a blip honestly.
Because billions a year just isn't enough.
An "I honestly don't know the grief" but, when TH-cam Red released many, many years ago. I jumped on that bandwagon and have been a subscriber to that paid service since then and even still now since its renaming to TH-cam Premium.
Paying to use these services was always going to be the inevitable business model. As someone whose been paying for TH-cam Premium for a few years now, (yes, I know there's ways around the ads, and no, I dont care) watching ads now on TH-cam feels foreign and weird. It's also extremely rare that I'd be tempted to buy anything seen in a commercial on any platform, even the ones that track me to the point they know my blood type. But the naturally ad free experience is the way to go, even if I still have to fast forward through some sponsor message.
Part about TV commercials coming w/cable subscriptions isn't really valid in Ametica because nobody watches "Live" unless it's sports so commercials get fast forwarded w/DVR.
I love the mathy side of this vid. Slick
If sponsorships become unskippable, I will not really be watching youtube anymore.
1:16 Google +😂😂😂
i do already pay for youtube premium. if i do see ads on any platform or in any app, most ads are low quality games or just scams. so i do not really look at the ads, if i watch i watch only to see if there is a way to skip, if it makes annoying sound i just turn the sound off. so yes i would pay for no ads, but only if i use the platform enough.
I live in an area where theres practically no ads for my area on youtube
TH-cam premium is totally worth it. Your time saved is immense and removing the distractions is really helpful. If you spend a 1-2 hours a day on youtube per day, I'd say it's a must. You'll see more content and it's a much better experience.
I pay for youtube premium.. have for years...
But I don't want to pay for ad-free on instagram or Facebook, since the ads I receive through them are often enough the only way I discover useful or interesting products or services...
The key thing I want.. is I want control of ads... I hate mid or end roll force ads on facebook videos and will often close the video straight away as a result (which then causes fb to barely show me that ad type)..
Just make the ads skippable if they don't grab my attention... treat them like another piece of content that gets to pay to target people like me instead of the algorithm feeding me based on what I typically interact with...
If TH-cam ever had a mandatory subscription with fees I just wouldn’t use TH-cam anymore.
The thing that separates TH-cam from TV is that you can't install uBlock and SponsorBlock on TV. With the rise of atrocities on different platforms, tech savvy users will switch to web version and use debloating extensions which will rise in popularity and numbers as sites become worse.
Although Instagram will be an interesting case since its web version is one of the least functional, severely stripped down sites in general, not just in social media sphere. You can't even receive multiple photos in the DMs or post a story. I wonder if it's all connected and intentional.
For me, social media has been losing its appeal lately. This shift is mainly due to companies imposing their own principles, which is understandable, but I'm not inclined to financially support a company like Meta that censors users and promotes narratives that aren't always accurate. In my opinion, social media has become the modern-day town square and should be publicly owned, where our constitutional rights are upheld. While some may argue that allowing free expression leads to outlandish statements, I prefer that over being restricted in my speech. I'm more inclined to support companies that act as a service without trying to dictate how users engage with it. However, the challenge arises when each platform develops its own culture or style of interaction, which can significantly impact the success of a company, often beyond their control.
Isn't it like $13 dollars a month now for Premium? I would honestly pay for it if it were more a long the lines of $7-8 a month.
I give $7 dollars a month to two TH-cam Animators on Patreon each because I admire their hard work and dedication. I feel like that money goes to better places than to just pay for skippable ads I could be skipping for free.
TH-cam on smart tv has become a chore to watch. Every videos had about a 60 second unskippable series of ads for every 10 minutes watched or so.
I pay for Premium instead of using adblock because TH-cam content is worth it. However if TH-cam starts allowing unskippable sponsors, I will stop paying for Premium and will instead use the inevitable apps that get around the blocks.
TH-cam premiums well worth it for me. I use it at the gym, audio while I drive and constantly watch it at home daily. There’s more content on it than literally all top 5 streaming sites like Netflix combined and creators upload daily.
Plus the time I save per month not watching ads probably adds up to hours. I’d be dumb not to pay for it
😂
This MF bought TH-cam premium 👆🤣
I pay for TH-cam Premium because I got spoiled during the old days of Google Music. Every time I have to see a commercial on someone else's account I cringe
Personally, me and my household got the premium family plan back when double ads and unskippable ads started being a thing regularly. And the reason is just the sheer amount of stuff on TH-cam. TV networks have YT accounts and have posted full length episodes or full feature documentaries over the time the platform has been around. I can watch the entire How It's Made series on the TV networks own page, then get bored and watch one of the movies that comes included with premium, and probably get bored again and go watch a small content creator doing a video essay or reacting to memes or something like that. The sheer diversity of types of content is what made the ~$8 for a three way split on the family plan worth it. And before that the $10 was justified for similar reasons. This is basically the only platform I interact with on a regular basis, because this is predominantly a video streaming site more than a social media in the sense of Facebook or even snap chat. I haven't been on either in about 5 years so I don't know what they look like anymore but I never liked them back then and it sounds like it got worse.
platforms were "free" to use because the product was the user. it's not only about ads, it's also about data (which was allegedly sold right and left) and marketing algorithms which they have perfected because of users. there's also ai training now, where did they take all those billions of photos and messages/conversations? from social network platforms (interactions and data created by users, for free).
if i am forced to pay for social networks and stuff, but can still use stuff like skype and zoom for free - it'll be enough for me. if free skype and zoom and such will also require subscription - well, i'm already paying subscription to my phone mobile network carrier so i'll be using that, like sms, and for chatting with my international friends - i guess, i can use emails. i wasn't born with a smartphone in my hand so i know life without electronic gadgets is perfectly livable.
if it ever get to the ads on ads i just go back to the library.
I think social media as a platform is a lot more different than TV. It's much easier and cheaper to create your own social media website than to create a new TV channel. If people will start to really dislike current social media giants, we might see new services rise up.
As an advertiser- we are stupid
Advertising as a whole has crept into our lives in so many ways. Social media is one of the latest. Go outside and go to a shopping mall. Not only the stores itself use advertising billboards, people walk around with bags with the name of a store or brand on it. People wear clothing with the name of the brand on it.
The one reason only why your car carry the name and the type on its back is also for advertising. Seeing it being used is gently poking you to get it too. And the more you see it, the more you are willing to buy it or shop there.
If you advertise too much, people get insensitive about it. Once you have take that good looking around for advertising in any way, remember how much your mind normally block automatically.
The writing has been on the wall for a long time.
Don't get fooled by the "adless experience"
They will still monetize your data .. double dip by making you pay and also monetizing your data. The consumers never win.
I remember when TH-cam can no ads years ago, now ads are everywhere, even tiktok is implementing more ads.
TH-cam premium is worth it, aside from no ads, you don't need to pay for another music streaming service
the problem isn't ads themselves, it's that they try to shove any and all ads down your throat no matter how insignificant the relevance. And once you click on one ad once even out of curiosity, be ready to see similar products/services being thrown at you from every direction aggressively for the next 3 weeks. TV is different because 1) ads don't follow you everywhere, and 2) ads are either well-integrated or detached from the content being consumed. Social media sponsorships suck because they peddled to the viewer by the content creators themselves rather than a third-party. And are unimaginative, NordVPN is the same ad everywhere, CoCa Cola on tv makes new distinct ad campaigns constantly and thematically.
btw most people don't need nordvpn and it's just a waste of money
I would absolutely be willing to pay $5 a month for an ad free version of youtube. But there's not way that I'm going to be paying more than that. TH-cam would need to improve drastically for me to pay that much.
The problem with paying for a service is that eventually they add advertisements anyway. I would never pay for you to or Instagram or Facebook knowing that that will be the inevitable outcome. Now if these had started out as subscription services, that would be a different story. But knowing they have followed a very old very broken model despite their claims of being new and fresh, I would be very reluctant to give them money for a subscription service. I don't think any of us needs TH-cam in our life. We'll just find another place for our tutorial videos.
I paid for TH-cam premium before and then I found a better browser, now I don't pay.
Not going to lie.
As a youtube premium subscriber for 5+ years im always made fun of because i "pay' for something free.
Its SO worth it. Background play, no ads, put on a video and lock your phone. Totally worth it.
I'm gonna give an invaluable advise to the whole tech and advertising industry, free of charge:
Everyone hates being bombarded with pointless spam and scam ads.
The tracking to make each ad more relevant already exists.
1. Reduce the amount of ads.
2. Make them more relevant.
3. Increase the rates you're taking.
4. Profit
It's the simple rule of supply and demand.
Your no 2 point is just asking for more trouble. Asking for more relevant ads just means more surveillance. I hate ads just like most people do, but I am more tolerant of irrelevant ads. The ads I see which seem to be relevant because of surveillance are the ones I am 100% guaranteed not to engage with because they are creepy. I accept to a certain degree are required to support the platform, but I will only tolerate non targeted ads
Believe it or not, the advertising execs are FAR smarter than you in every way. But ESPECIALLY in advertising. They are not looking to you for help. This comment is like Lupus from the Bad News Bears thinking Shohei Ohtani should take his advice on how to hit.
@@FUGP72 Nope, they're dumb, they can't even wrap their heads around the simple rule of supply and demand and just throw advertising money out the window, because "that's how we've always done it"..
NEWSFLASH: This isn't the print and not even the radio and TV era anymore, these mediums are dying.
Casting a wide net and aiming for as much exposure as possible with your campaigns isn't practical and doesn't even work anymore.
Today's customers have more choice than ever and are willing and have the ability to take countermeasures if you annoy them too much.
The primitive times of only knowing the general make up of the audience of a TV or radio program or of the readers of a printed product are over.
Today, thanks to the internet, you can single out the people you actually want as customers and surgically target them with your message.
The only reason we're still being endlessly bombarded with ads is that businesses fear that they will go under and become irrelevant, should they stop, which might even be true in case everyone else keeps going as usual.
It's a deadlock the advertisers seemingly can't overcome.
But platforms like Google could force them to, by showing less ads which are gonna be more impactful in return.
@@FUGP72Nope, they're literally the opposite of smart, they can't even wrap their heads around the simple rule of supply and demand and just throw advertising money out the window, because "that's how we've always done it"..
NEWSFLASH: This isn't the print and not even the radio and TV era anymore, these mediums are dying.
Casting a wide net and aiming for as much exposure as possible with your campaigns isn't practical and doesn't even work anymore.
Today's customers have more choice than ever and are willing and have the ability to take countermeasures if you annoy them too much.
The primitive times of only knowing the general make up of the audience of a TV or radio program or of the readers of a printed product are over.
Today, thanks to the internet, you can single out the people you actually want as customers and surgically target them with your message.
The only reason we're still being endlessly bombarded with ads is that businesses fear that they will go under and become irrelevant, should they stop, which might even be true in case everyone else keeps going as usual.
It's a deadlock the advertisers seemingly can't overcome.
But platforms like Google could force them to, by showing less ads which are gonna be more impactful in return.
@@FUGP72 look, I don’t mind being challenged/criticised for an opinion I express, that’s fair enough. But when you do so with cryptic references I can’t respond. I have no idea what you’re talking about and to be honest I don’t 2 s**ts about the whims of an advertising executive. I only care about not be surveilled into oblivion.
Demand camera access to monitor and make sure that people are paying attention to ads😂😂😂
You're wrong on the point that instagram or any other social media charges advertisers only when user click on a specific ad or do an action
it's charges the advertisers for each "impression" aka ad view
and their algorithms optimize the cost to get the action the advertiser wants (buying stuff or simply interaction with the post) by showing the ad to the most likely people to interact with the ad or perform a specific task
Why would TH-cam allow unskipable sponsor segments? Sponsored segments of videos do not bring Youtbe any money (directly), so TH-cam doesn't care if you watch them or not. If you say, "well, TH-cam will just take a cut, then," then why woudl TH-cam not just insert an unskippable ad the way they currently do?
The idea that you need to skip ad after it finishes is frustrating like hands be wet and can't skip and they keep pushing more ,i hate these media now for real
If YT Premium was $5/month, i would pay for it. At $12.99, it isnt worth it.
"And eventually people will start wanting to just pay a premium to have a copy of their favorite content always available. Preferably one that the companies don't have to pay to maintain. It would need to be put on a durable but cheap to manufacture medium, such as a plastic backed disk of metal foil."
And then the circle is complete.
Not going to lie, I signed up to TH-cam premium and it’s actually a great experience as someone who uses TH-cam a lot
Growing up it took 30 minutes to watch a ten, fifteen minute show, im used to ads, its time to get snacks, piss breaks....
Google is the only thing that can force cash out of me. Ive stopped paying TH-cam ever since creators started advertising themselves. Reddit was the worst ive paid for
You’ve got some of the best takes on YT imo great work 🙌
The reason why we have so much ads nowadays is because of corporate greed they care more about money in their paycheck and their bonuses
Since ads often contain malware, there might be laws to force broadcasters/streamers, that clickable ads must be blockable by users, for their own security. I don't expect the services to check up every single ad for malicious code. Even an app in the MS app store contained a trojan. You would expect all apps there are vetted, right?
If I have to go back to paying to see content that also continues to advertise me, I'm just going to drop that content. None of these services are critical to my life. If it's inconvenient and miserable I'm going to quickly find something that deserves my money instead.
I've been paying for TH-cam Family for a while now, and it's great, no need to find workarounds to skip ads on my TV that might not work all the time. However, for social media? I might consider paying for it if I get better privacy, but not in the double-digits, that's just stupid.
I think I might be in the minority with social media. When it becomes inconvenient, I just stop using it. It's not important to me. It's just something to experience while on the toilet.
Skipping ads is now REFLEXIVE.
And they CAN'T force it. People will just leave.
Ironically, the paid userbase is exactly what advertise would be the MOST interested in to advertise to.
Considering I AM the product on social medias there is no way I'd ever give them a dime. Instagram is really bad with ads, every 3-4 post is an ad and on top 1/3 to 1/2 of the suggested content is commercial accounts and sponsored posts (so basically ads).
Well I'm from India and here youtube premium is pretty cheap around 1.5 USD. And if you are a student like me then even less than 1 USD.
If the Oasis was real they would have already filled up 75% of our visual field with ads that’s how bad it’s gotten.
Paying a service for not seeing ads seems like we're already having Net Neutrality dying. Maybe it is dead in a while before I know it.
Wait. You really think "family plans" will actually work? That's just code for "dad pays for everyone." Not a single soul has ever tossed someone a few bucks to cover their 5th of a subscription.
My revanced stopped working like a week back and I have to revert to original TH-cam... Those two days of using original TH-cam app were the longest. I had to find a way to work on my revanced.
It's working better now.
Yeah, cable is a good example of subscription and advertisement revenue but that why people have / are fleeing from it. If the paid version has un-skippable ads people will switch to the free version or change platforms.
I would pay for TH-cam premium, if it wasn't that expensive.
I don't care about all the features premium gives you, for me it is dead weight.
Give a 5$ option and this looks way more interesting.
I have YT Premium because I don't want the ads. I can still watch the content without that sub.
I never click on an ad. If I see something that interests me I will just go to a browser and the actual site of the advertiser.