A Priori appeals to me because in my experience learning toki pona so far, the words that sound similar to English actually kind of trip me up when they don't carry the exact meaning of the English word they sound like. For example it's hard to not think of "lukin" as "looking". With completely made-up words it's a little harder to learn vocabulary in the first place but the words can find their own unique spectrum of meaning in your mind without getting mixed up with words from other languages with a similar meaning spectrum. This makes everything beyond the beginner stage easier in my opinion. In my experience learning some Spanish, this is not an issue because most of the words that sound similar actually do hold the same meaning, with only minor differences if any. In my experience learning some Japanese, the words are so different-sounding that it helps with understanding the new concepts that those words are (they rarely hold the exact set of meanings on the meaning spectrum as any synonym you could pick for them from English). But the loan words in Japanese which sound like English end up confusing me sometimes because they don't always mean the same thing as the English word they came from. Looking forward to seeing how this auxlang goes!
Quickly gonna remind everyone to vote: strawpoll.com/polls/e2navpNlvgB strawpoll.com/polls/NMnQBMzddg6 strawpoll.com/polls/BDyNjGY2eyR And join my Discord server which is totally professionally set up (/s): discord.gg/2S7kfasJ6g
i like the idea of “a posteori” but with strong phonotactics / courage to deform words. i voted the minimal consonants but i would prefer 6 vowels (add schwa/strut) basically a Volapük type of thing.
I don't speak english that well and i'm not so sure why this got recomended to me tho it sounds interesting The thumbnail The thumbnail and *that acronym*
I discussed some of these same topics in my "which conlang" video and follow-up videos... but I'm wondering, who is this video for? I would hope that people who are interested in getting involved and voting would already know the pros and cons of a priori vs a posteriori languages.
A number of years ago I briefly participated in a group effort to create an auxlang. Features were decided by vote. Before long the effort fell apart and disbanded because, for one thing, the group bogged down in minutiae of phonology and phonotactics before they ever really got anywhere. I have become skeptical of an auxlang being constructed by a commttee.
That reminds me of similar situations I've seen which were the result of poor leadership. One person ultimately has to make the decision even after a vote, in order for progress to be made, since it's impossible to align with everyone's ideas at once. But if the leadership is willing to make the calls, it can be a great experience. Everyone will have to accept some form of compromise but that's true of any successful collaborative effort.
@@Aronora you're skeptical of it's success because of the auxlang being created by committee. I'm saying since we are all going into it with that knowledge, we're all skeptical, so what if we succeed despite our skepticism.
The amount of Esperantists I've encountered that refuse to acknowledge that Esperanto is Eurocentric and largely based on Romance languages is astounding. Not an Esperanto hater, btw.
As a French I can tell that a lot of french ppl know how to make the /h/ sound, and even it is very esay to learn
A Priori appeals to me because in my experience learning toki pona so far, the words that sound similar to English actually kind of trip me up when they don't carry the exact meaning of the English word they sound like. For example it's hard to not think of "lukin" as "looking". With completely made-up words it's a little harder to learn vocabulary in the first place but the words can find their own unique spectrum of meaning in your mind without getting mixed up with words from other languages with a similar meaning spectrum. This makes everything beyond the beginner stage easier in my opinion. In my experience learning some Spanish, this is not an issue because most of the words that sound similar actually do hold the same meaning, with only minor differences if any. In my experience learning some Japanese, the words are so different-sounding that it helps with understanding the new concepts that those words are (they rarely hold the exact set of meanings on the meaning spectrum as any synonym you could pick for them from English). But the loan words in Japanese which sound like English end up confusing me sometimes because they don't always mean the same thing as the English word they came from.
Looking forward to seeing how this auxlang goes!
Quickly gonna remind everyone to vote:
strawpoll.com/polls/e2navpNlvgB
strawpoll.com/polls/NMnQBMzddg6
strawpoll.com/polls/BDyNjGY2eyR
And join my Discord server which is totally professionally set up (/s): discord.gg/2S7kfasJ6g
Discord link is down
@@Tsukuyomi got a new link now discord.gg/2S7kfasJ6g
i like the idea of “a posteori” but with strong phonotactics / courage to deform words.
i voted the minimal consonants but i would prefer 6 vowels (add schwa/strut)
basically a Volapük type of thing.
doesn't that have the benefits of neither?
I don't speak english that well and i'm not so sure why this got recomended to me tho it sounds interesting
The thumbnail
The thumbnail and *that acronym*
Let’s say it was on purpose, okay? It was definitely on purpose. Bugs are features
@@Aronora TOROCACA
really looking forward to this
Same! Making a conlang this way is so fun
What have I stumbled upon?
Yes
This looks so cool
I discussed some of these same topics in my "which conlang" video and follow-up videos... but I'm wondering, who is this video for? I would hope that people who are interested in getting involved and voting would already know the pros and cons of a priori vs a posteriori languages.
A number of years ago I briefly participated in a group effort to create an auxlang. Features were decided by vote. Before long the effort fell apart and disbanded because, for one thing, the group bogged down in minutiae of phonology and phonotactics before they ever really got anywhere. I have become skeptical of an auxlang being constructed by a commttee.
Me too bro, me too
I am also skeptical
But, what if going into it we're all skeptical of creating an auxlang by comity and accidentally create one despite ourselves?
That reminds me of similar situations I've seen which were the result of poor leadership. One person ultimately has to make the decision even after a vote, in order for progress to be made, since it's impossible to align with everyone's ideas at once. But if the leadership is willing to make the calls, it can be a great experience. Everyone will have to accept some form of compromise but that's true of any successful collaborative effort.
@@dennisleopold6834 I dont really understand what you said
@@Aronora you're skeptical of it's success because of the auxlang being created by committee. I'm saying since we are all going into it with that knowledge, we're all skeptical, so what if we succeed despite our skepticism.
El acrónimo me atrajo
pona la, o sitelen e toki lon anpa pi sitelen tawa sina :)
tomorrow, when my head doesnt hurt anymore a a a. tenpo kama la, mi pali e ni. o awen! sina pona
ooooh, I will try the automatic subtitles function, reload the video in like 5 minutes and there should be subtitles
ona li lon tenpo ni! ale li pona :)
no clue what this is, but I saw this on my fyp and I’m bored.
The amount of Esperantists I've encountered that refuse to acknowledge that Esperanto is Eurocentric and largely based on Romance languages is astounding. Not an Esperanto hater, btw.
3:40 chart inaccurate
thai has ɯ, yet isn't grayed out in the ɯ chart
I know, the chart is fucking horrible, I started making it better but there are mistakes everywhere aaaah
auxlangs are supposed to unite people under one language
frenchies aren't people
I feel bad for liking this.
🇫🇷 ❤️ 🇩🇪 4 ever
Frenches surely are more than just people if even embarrassments like you are considered human.
you really shouldn't have turned the title into an acronym
Acronyms are love
Caca in English estas ko jaki.
4:52 dammit jan misali's gonna do his show thing and your auxlang's gonna be incompatible with french now
Incompatible with French…. My goal achieved /s (I love France though)
Unfortunate acronym.
Wait what? AM I TOO STUPID TO SEE IT?
@@Aronora C-A-C-A
@@water594 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, ai caramba
Yeah, I'm sorry, it was lined up so perfectly on the thumbnail that I just can't unsee it.
genuinely thought this was a joke because of the acronym in the thumbnail.
Caca means shit in spanish
It’s not a big, it’s a feature
@@Aronora ?
@@chainox2651 They mean bug lol
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