Had a similar experience playing Mannhattan once. We had a pyro who didn't airblast robots into team mates, rather he kept on airblasting them back into their spawn area where they are invincible and was actively trying to make the waves longer than they needed and the rest of the team had to try and kill robots faster than he could airblast them. We kicked him, a new player joined and proceeded to have an amazing game, we also beat wave 666 afterward.
The engi actually knew exactly what he was doing and definitely had more tours than his count showed (he must've reset.) The forward dispenser placement is more for super experienced teams that want to kill everything as soon as possible. Yeah he could've moved it a bit back for you guys but as you saw you still won the whole map super easily. Also, he never actively tried to kill you with the buster. As an expert on killing his own teammates when playing engi, trust me on this one. Still a fun video to watch though!
13:02 sentry buster assisted by Ace with a blue name kills a pyro bot. The only other way to show up in the kill in the color of the enemy to to be a medic healing disguised spy killing their teammate. Yes you can be a traitor to your team
13:20 THat Dispenser is more so for an offensive Push so you can perfectly stay at the bottom. Then again, normally for that strat you would either place it at the corner right under the botspawn like in 16:40 , or ontop the barrel Also, Movement Speed is Percentual. Meaning, a Scout is getting alot out of it while a Max Speed Upgraded Revving Heavy will not even notice a bigger difference than Stock vs. Brass Beast Revving
The only way to get soundsmith content. Jokes aside it's nice to see him play with his friends off his channel. And and Ethan TF2 please play the original destiny
@@Ferdoe and they kinda have a reason, if the engi has full dispenser range and someone is actively sticking to the dispenser even when they are told not to they kinda deserve the kick vote
I...don't think it's worth it. The Huo-Long Heater is the Heavy's 2nd weakest primary (-10% damage penalty); right behind the Natascha. There's no reason to use it over something like the Brass Beast (+20% damage bonus) - you might as well be moving slow, but you're usually meant to defend one spot as Heavy anyway, like the Bomb. And it might be a better idea to fire at the robots from a safe distance.
@@Loner098 It's a 5% damage bonus over the Huo Long Heater And if someone is in the ring of fire, it's a 0% damage bonus, and without afterburn. Tbh Huo Long should have a 35% damage bonus not a 25% bonus bc pyros who work with you are rare
Yeah, but it's super hard to do because the bots get a melee range extension when charging that players almost always don't get (source spaghetti bugs, aho!) alongside a general movement speed advantage.
"hmm. the prices of golden pans have just gone down! what the hell?! and it seems soundsmith is behind this???!! computer look up soundsmith golden pan deflation!"
Honest opinion here; Huo long heater is okay in MVM in my opinion. Mainly because of it's damage boost against burning targets, basically allowing the heavy and the pyro to work together well by just doing their jobs.
Ah-see. God, I laugh each time I hear that. :D But honestly, for anyone not sure, down here in Upside-Down land, Aussie is enunciated: O-zee. Like the Ozzy in Ozzy Osbourne. :) And before anyone gets offended, no I'm not being a prick. Just trying to let people know is all. :)
Bro there needs to be a Bot MVM mode where all the robot classes are as if they were hacks like crit hacks, aimbot, triggerbot, spinbot, etc. and have people use bot deterring weapons as the bots use more and more hacks from just aimbot to crit hacks, aimbot, triggerbot, and spinbot all at once I don't care if you think that's hard, its what casual players have to deal with everyday, and it'll make normal MvM look like a baby's game. Someone make it.
Nah, I don't care if the Engie is using some sort of "forward placement" strategy, every Engie I've ever played with on Mann Up on the map have ALWAYS placed their dispenser behind the barrel on the left. And even with aggressive teams, we always do fine. His sentry placement sucks too. It's always sucks when Engies don't care about putting teammates in danger of Sentry Busters.
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Something just as bad as an engie actively trying to kill you with busters, is 2 air-blast happy pyros reflecting busters at an engie
I have had that happen a couple times. They think it's funny to make the engie's life harder (as well as the rest of the team). sm
@@mattwoodard2535 Yeah, we're in the same boat
Had a similar experience playing Mannhattan once. We had a pyro who didn't airblast robots into team mates, rather he kept on airblasting them back into their spawn area where they are invincible and was actively trying to make the waves longer than they needed and the rest of the team had to try and kill robots faster than he could airblast them. We kicked him, a new player joined and proceeded to have an amazing game, we also beat wave 666 afterward.
"What damage type is the fleshlight?"
- Ace TheOcarinaMaker, 2021
melee
Force damage????
Permanent damage.
Projectile protection works against it so idk.
Liquid damage.
who needs enemies with teammates like these
Nice protogen pic
@@The_SoundByte ty!
Hello fellow random person
@@Generic_Ralsei_Worshipper greetings
@@arandomusername88 how are ya?
Ace and friends fight a psychotic Engineer while also fighting bots
ft. SoundSmith
MUG MANIAC
@@pantuternik Mug vs Barqs while A&W sits in the background
Soundsmith + Ace = funny times ahead.
If only Bearded was in this....
The engi actually knew exactly what he was doing and definitely had more tours than his count showed (he must've reset.)
The forward dispenser placement is more for super experienced teams that want to kill everything as soon as possible. Yeah he could've moved it a bit back for you guys but as you saw you still won the whole map super easily.
Also, he never actively tried to kill you with the buster. As an expert on killing his own teammates when playing engi, trust me on this one. Still a fun video to watch though!
Okay what about his sentry placement being that forward?
15:36 best part is that the engie was minding his own business up top. He had nothing to do with the Sentry Buster killing the medic.
Mann Vs Engie
He do make machines
Mann vs *TEXAN* Mann
Still man v machine
@@panzerschiff9805 Mann vs a squirrel in a glass dome
Mann VS monke
Now we need Ace and Sound-smith to play wave 666 together! That would be golden!
Edit : Also, Ace is a money Heavy!
Heater introduces a whole new kind of Pybro game play, I see.
"So what are the baseballs and the fleshlight?"
".........."
"the what?"
"the-"
"That's a shotgun shell, Ace."
32:30
I'll give you a duped shovel for that Australium Pan.
13:02 sentry buster assisted by Ace with a blue name kills a pyro bot. The only other way to show up in the kill in the color of the enemy to to be a medic healing disguised spy killing their teammate. Yes you can be a traitor to your team
I love that glitch. A lot of medics will go "what?" after they see it in the killfeed
Low energy soundsmith is cursed AF he sounds dead inside the poor guy.
Ikr? Seeing our favorite ginger idiot (I use idiot lovingly) in low energy is weird
"Heavy don't stand near the dispenser"
Said the engie putting the dispenser in the middle of the lane
13:20 THat Dispenser is more so for an offensive Push so you can perfectly stay at the bottom. Then again, normally for that strat you would either place it at the corner right under the botspawn like in 16:40 , or ontop the barrel
Also, Movement Speed is Percentual. Meaning, a Scout is getting alot out of it while a Max Speed Upgraded Revving Heavy will not even notice a bigger difference than Stock vs. Brass Beast Revving
Yeah that makes sense, I doubt he was doing all of this for no reason.
The only way to get soundsmith content.
Jokes aside it's nice to see him play with his friends off his channel.
And and Ethan TF2 please play the original destiny
No wonder why I thought I heard soundsmiths voice
I tried watching sound Smith but jesus christ I can only take so much 2 fort.. So this is a nice change of pace
23:35
"Go Ace, be [the] Man Murdering Machine you've always wanted to be"
shouldn't he mean Machine Murdering Man?
edit: machine murdering plant
............... and I missed this one too! Damn, nice ear there mate!
Mann*
I love this channel.
I love you!
@@AceTheOcarinaMaker this has the energy of “And i love you random citizen!”
Same
Seeing clips where Ace and SoundSmith are playing together makes me wish I could watch them stream together
I want to point out, that engie said "heavy stay away from the dispenser"
Can someone explain why he would even say that??
if he had max range the heavy being near it is not needed, and actively breaks it faster due to splash damage.
Yeah high tours get pissed at that even more and will actively try to kick for being too close to dispenser
@@Ferdoe and they kinda have a reason, if the engi has full dispenser range and someone is actively sticking to the dispenser even when they are told not to they kinda deserve the kick vote
@@simonmenincampos5653 oh i never said they didn't. Its just much more common for the high tours to get pissed at it.
I was the scout and I can explain,
I was lagging real bad.
Thanks for coming to my tedtalk.
I watch your vids a lot pls don't be mad
The Hu-Long does extra damage to burning enemies right? So a Pyro plus Hu-Long is nasty
That's the Sun-on-A-Stick from the Scout. The Hu-Long just sets enemies on fire with the ring and uses ammo as it burns.
@@MrTailson1 Ace said "as long as the Pyros doing work Im doing as much damage as a Brass Beast with the speed of a miningun" so...who knows.
@@MrTailson1 Nope, it does +25% damage to burning players at the price of a general 10% damage penalty.
I...don't think it's worth it. The Huo-Long Heater is the Heavy's 2nd weakest primary (-10% damage penalty); right behind the Natascha. There's no reason to use it over something like the Brass Beast (+20% damage bonus) - you might as well be moving slow, but you're usually meant to defend one spot as Heavy anyway, like the Bomb. And it might be a better idea to fire at the robots from a safe distance.
@@Loner098
It's a 5% damage bonus over the Huo Long Heater
And if someone is in the ring of fire, it's a 0% damage bonus, and without afterburn.
Tbh Huo Long should have a 35% damage bonus not a 25% bonus bc pyros who work with you are rare
I love the soundsmith model in the thumbnail just kinda floating there.
Wow, that video is just in time for me to get carried away from an awful day.
Thanks, man.
Hope it goes better!
fun fact; you can actually use the half zatoichi to one shot the samurai demo bots
Yeah, but it's super hard to do because the bots get a melee range extension when charging that players almost always don't get (source spaghetti bugs, aho!) alongside a general movement speed advantage.
Is that soundsmith tf2 from the popular videogame hitman?
As an Engineer main in both casual and MvM, the dispenser placement physically hurt me.
Wait wtf Soundsmith TF2 in an Ace video
“That’s a _shotgun shell,_ Ace.”
"hes not racist"
"what"
lmao nice
Cant wait for the ginger maniac to upload the next mvm shenanigans.
That Engi did absolutely nothing wrong.
That “Yiu want a banyanya?” at the beginning was funnier than it had any right to be.
The gold on the australium cake is the constant "MY LEG!"
4:34 "the gas passer is ridiculously good" nice to see they haven't nerfed it
I mean there havent been a weapon update for a long time now
Sondsmoth is here. He will be mugman
"hmm. the prices of golden pans have just gone down! what the hell?! and it seems soundsmith is behind this???!! computer look up soundsmith golden pan deflation!"
i cannot handle soundsmith painting his dapper topper green
Bruh the medic bot that amended at 11:52. Only there for part of a second. I hope he's in a better place now.
the engineer was big brain but had awful luck.
this, like those spots for the most part made sense, he actively tried to keep disp near heavy where he could stay up front where he needs to be.
This is the first time i noticed: the flame sounds for the huo long heater sounds like doom2016 music.
Is that soundsmith I hear?
The money heavy returns
Why is ace's mic so high pitched now?
Ace, was that soundsmith? It sounds a lot like him
one of the more sophisticated of the mercenaries gets played by lobotomy patients lmfao
The whole video is just “MY LEG!”
Hearing "MY LEG" Is still funny after the 36,571st time
I can’t believe it took me until the Mug Maniac skit to realize that was SoundSmith :/
The thought of terra talking about a flesh light scares me.
Wait I just noticed something, these robots have souls. Their deaths are proc'ing the soul gargoyle
as an engineer main i have to say. that dispenser and sentry placement is god awful. but the fact that it somewhat works scares me.
sound smith is also in there right?
Here I thought MY building placements were incomprehensive
I am sure they aren't THAT bad
also soundsmith was there too
*reads title in notifications* Damn! That’s an achievement!
Honest opinion here; Huo long heater is okay in MVM in my opinion.
Mainly because of it's damage boost against burning targets, basically allowing the heavy and the pyro to work together well by just doing their jobs.
Engie is my favorite power class
Where you playing with soundsmith tf2?
24:05 best laugh
Is that sound smith?
Iron curtain + pootis bird = that 1 gambling pootis
Ah-see. God, I laugh each time I hear that. :D But honestly, for anyone not sure, down here in Upside-Down land, Aussie is enunciated: O-zee. Like the Ozzy in Ozzy Osbourne. :)
And before anyone gets offended, no I'm not being a prick. Just trying to let people know is all. :)
Just in time
me : *sees mug maniac* "i wonder who that is /s"
Was SoundSmith that joined to play MVM with you Ace?
I think it was a fake
Wait if you are being serious yeah it was soundsmith
@@pizzathehut2553 it was SoundSmith I saw the video until the end.
hold F to observe your weapon
Bro there needs to be a Bot MVM mode where all the robot classes are as if they were hacks like crit hacks, aimbot, triggerbot, spinbot, etc. and have people use bot deterring weapons as the bots use more and more hacks from just aimbot to crit hacks, aimbot, triggerbot, and spinbot all at once
I don't care if you think that's hard, its what casual players have to deal with everyday, and it'll make normal MvM look like a baby's game. Someone make it.
Thats just called casual lmao
@@Pord.o "We have no idea how stupid we are" -Ace TheOcarinaMaker
did that engie use a group ticket without playing with any friends
Oh my God I used to be exactly a year late to your vids
Not today
Ok so i dont want to sound weard or anything but what happened to aces voice it sounds different did he get a new microphone?
The Observer has been removed from a map
everyone: mvm mann up is so fun
me who bought oblooterated taunt and not keys:
i had an engie that completely abandoned the first half of a map. he just let the bots have it!
He saw uncle Dane’s vid saying that dispensers are for the team so he moved that gear up
19:45 For real engi?
*"MY LEG"*
Did they change the name of the bots or was that always there name?
did you get a new mic or what im confus
I’m so used to expert mvm meta so when I saw a soldier, medic and pyro j was confused lol
Than or then i forgor 💀
How do I get your cross air
the real engineer gaming
Did Ace get a new mic? His voice is very high in the past few videos
tacobot players gonna have a heart attack
Please kick Sandsmurf until he makes more Mann's Guide's.
Just got out of my machining class I feel good
I see Ace and his friends back at playing some casual.
What do you mean, "mvm?" There's well enough bots to be Casual here. 7w7
I swear I keep hearing sondsmoth's voice. At this point I can't tell if I'm going crazy or not
Dude a DRG MvM mod would be amazing. I wanna use a breach cutter on big robots!
the crossover
Well your mini gun of choice might get you kicked last wave by tacobot now a days ace
What is your resolution? Your cursor looked massive.
1920x1080
Ace, helium isn't a replacement for oxygen.
I would love to see Deep Rock Galactic cross-promote with TF2. Like, bring in the Thunderhead as a Tomislav reskin, as an example.
Nah, I don't care if the Engie is using some sort of "forward placement" strategy, every Engie I've ever played with on Mann Up on the map have ALWAYS placed their dispenser behind the barrel on the left. And even with aggressive teams, we always do fine. His sentry placement sucks too. It's always sucks when Engies don't care about putting teammates in danger of Sentry Busters.
oh my god it’s distortion dude
Dispenser go br br
My god having swapped viemodels is extremely cursed
That Pyro is so fucking lucky omg