I tried both the PHS-155 and the PRD715, and they perform more or less the same. The main differences are that the PHS-155 has a cast body, while the PRD61x and PRD71x have forged bodies. Additionally, the PHS-155 costs less than half the price of a PRD715, making it a real bargain. They are both very good guns, and personally, I prefer them more for clear than for base.
Hi Ben, the PHS155 is, as you say, very good and great value for money. Having said that, they all are, really. You are right about the bodies. The PRD and PC series are all forged and anodized, making them very durable and comparable to top manufacturers. I was making a video the other day, using the PHS155 in 1.3 against the Iwata Kiwami4 BA4J 1.3, this is now discontinued, and the PHS155 is every bit as good, if not better than the Kiwami4 BA4J, at just over 100 USD, it's a bargain. Cheers buddy 👌
@benjaminchu6699 I ordered one when they first came out, before the website was up and running and the lady said, they are not as well made as the PRD series so wasn't sure if I would like/want it, obviously I knew it was cheaper so something has to be compromised but I was very pleasantly surprised as its still well made and works really well. Some have messaged me saying they also make great primer guns in 1.8 , which I can believe as the PHS135 is much cheaper and also great for primer, cheers Ben 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 hi pete I have a walcom carbonio halo 1.2 clear gun / new version with garage / how well would it spray basecoat / was trying not to buy the basecoat version / any information would help thanks / also pete you was right about sagola raising there prices in the USA they raise the price to about $900.00 for standard 4600 gun with no Guage and & around $1000.00 for the one with a Guage thanks pete for all the vedio you are putting out
@refinishtechnology2529 Hi Mate, the only real difference is the tips. The base version has a defusing lip around it, so it's not as harsh as the clear coat gun. It could make the basecoat a little dry, but lowering the pressure should help balance it
Another great video. I own the 715 and the 717, originally I was using the 717 for basecoat and the 715 for clear. However I found that I was having issues with coarse metallics with the 717 as I tend to spray and blend many panels at a time and I was just getting modelling especially in the hood. I enjoyed the 715 for clear as it really puts out the material, and the finish was pretty good in all honesty. But I switched the guns around out of curiosity about a month ago now I am spraying clear with the 717 and base with the 715 and I have had no issues with my metallics anymore and let me tell you with the clear that I use in my production shop, which is the Nason 497-00 and the PPG Global D894, the finish is just amazing. the Nason clear with perfectly match factory finish with no effort at all out of the 717, and the PPG clear will give you a near glass like finish for your higher end vehicles out of the 717. I could not be happier. I was using Devilbiss guns before, the Devilbiss plus for my metallics, the ProLite for my clear, I don't even touch them anymore honestly.
Hi Mate, I remember you saying you were having problems, I remember it as of all the people that have contacted me, you'res was the only one having problems with the finish. I do find it strange that the PRD717 had trouble with the metallic base coats. If I remember rightly, you are using a water-based base coat, something I only have limited experience, only having used 2 makes so couldn't really throw much light on the problem. Sounds like the switch worked well which is good to hear, not sure if you heard in the video, but a friend of mine has bought a PRD715 and is completely smitten with how well it performs for base coats, so much so, his base coat DV1 B+ is on the reserves bench Thanks, buddy, much appreciated 👍
@@jbcarrico7877 well as a shop that guarantees our work, the 497 clear has not had any returns for say peeling or fade in well over a decade for me. It dries super fast so you need to put your coats pretty much wet on wet or they will orange peel a bit. However it isn't hard to find the sweet spot with the clear. It gets really darn hard btw, so if you are planning to sand and polish the vehicle unless it is say a motorcycle you may want to try a softer clear like AUTOBAHN products, like their glamour clear line. But all in all the 497 is a super reliable product and you can be confident that if you did your job well in the prep work, that you will never have any issues out of the finish.
Great Video: Any plans on reviewing the Porphis PRD-716 or the 626 which are HVLP models - especially with actual air consumption at different air pressures?
Hi Pete, very enjoyable video mate both guns really hammered the clear down and it looks like the Sata has met it's match here to me the 625 is just as fast as the 5000 plus the finish you got here from both guns is pretty much the same which makes me wonder why we buy these expensive guns when the Porphis guns are just as good🙄👌 I have been doing some experimenting with the fan size on my 717 and IMO just turning it down a little to take the edge of it I don't get each end of the fan going over the wings making more overspray which is wasting clear plus I don't see any difference in the finish, I know you said in your video that you wouldn't do this but I wanted to try it to see what would happen😬 it's early days doing this atm so time will tell🤔 Thanks mate👍
Hi John, You know the PRD625 is fast, so it makes sense to put it against the Sata 5000 RP, which is super fast. As you can see, the Porphis wasn't scared of the Sata. It's just as good, and I'm getting pretty confident it will last as long, so yes, it makes you wonder why we do pay nearly $1000 USD for these things. I will get the new Sata when it's out, only because of interest really, if I was just a normal guy, I would just buy a few Porphis guns and get on with it as they are as good as any IMO. As far as the fan settings are concerned, if it works for you, then that's all that matters, I made the comment really as people often ask me why you need a mini gun as you can make the fan smaller on any big gun, that's where you really do lose some performance, and the reason there are so many tip sizes in smaller guns, cheers mate 👍
Sorry for the late reply mate I don't always get notifications when new comments are up plus someone keeps sending me loads of guns to try so I'll be doing a nightshift in the booth today😪😴😂yeah the 625 is a beast and it made mincemeat of the old Sata👊😂 Like you I want to get the new sata when it comes out but unlike you if I do it will have to be the full digital with the top of the range digital gauge on it, oh just had a thought I've got 4 guns laying around here so I could sell them then put the cash towards the Sata🤔😁 It's probably me but I find the pattern on the 717 is a bit wetter and more controllable if it's wound in a fraction, not my much but just enough to tidy the edges up a bit👌 My next panel will be done will all Porphis guns which should be interesting, wish me luck🤞🤞😬cheers mate👍
Hi Mate, The digital version of the XJet is only 100 GBP more than the standard, so I may well get that one, not that it makes any difference to the performance and normally its a pain, but, I think it's probably the main point of the gun as I can't see it being any better than the X5500, we will see. Porphis has a new gun out, the PX6, looks good and love the colour 😁cheers mate 👌
Hi Andrew, This is the PRD625, so it is very similar performance wise to the PRD715. The Porphis PRD717 is a split tip so different. There is also the PRD627, another split tip gun, this performs a little different to the PRD717, pressure used is a little higher, equally excellent performance wise, cheers mate 👌
So what you’re saying is Theresa new sherif in town🤣. You had said it was fast, didn’t realize that fast. So the 625 will also be faster than the Sagola, interesting. Great video Sir, Cheers
Hi Bryan, It really is a fast gun, great fun, and a great finish . You can see the speed the Porphis covers that panel 😀, a great finish as well, and yes, a little faster than the Sagola 4600 DVR Clear 1.3XL, cheers buddy 👍
Pete, when spraying a motorcycle tank, which of the 2 guns will spray clear the flattest: a dv1s or a full size gun with a split nozzle. I have a dv1s which rules on bike stuff but never owned a split nozzle spraygun so i'm curious.
Hi Harold, The full-size gun with a split tip would still be much faster than a DV1S. When we talk about slow, it really is relative, so in the case of a PRD717 or WS400 type guns, they are slow compared to a PRD715 or W400 Bellaria, they are all faster than all the minis, thanks mate 👍
Hi Harold, Sorry, that is my mistake, I read it as "fastest" when you clearly say "flattest" , flattest is a word and your English is perfectly good, it me who obviously can't read 🫣. To be honest, both the Porphis PRD717, WS400 type guns and the DV1S produce super flat finishes, so I wouldn't put one above the other, as we have already said, they go about it is different ways, but the result is the same, thanks mate 👍
Porphis spray gun is made by international Zheilang Porphis weapons experts. PRD 717 is designed to clear slow motion but smooth as sata 5000 slow motion. prd 715 fast all-purpose weapon. same sata x5500 movement fast in my opinion. all weapons are great. that depends on how to use this weapon. But the sata 5000 weapon is the greatest weapon I have ever used. 250 cars I sprayed were not polished but the result was like it was polished. the most important technique should know. 
Hi mate, I hear what you are saying now. Yes, the PRD717 and PRD627 are both slower in application due to their split tip, the PRD715 and PRD625, the one in this video, are, as you can see, as fast if not faster than the Sata 5000 RP, and, spray just as well, they really are very very good, cheers mate 👍
Hi Mate, I use a 400 grit on a DA, then normally remove any excess dust with a 90% alcohol 10% water mix, 80/20 in warm summer conditions, then it's a solvent panel wipe, which you see on the video, and a tack rag , cheers mate 👌
Not for the faint of heart those two! A fireman turned spray painter might be used to them 😂. Some output from both! When you buy the Porphis guns from the link, do you pay any duty when they arrive in the UK? I can't find anywhere on their site that says one way or the other. Thanks for a great and informative video
Hi Dominic, Don't they fly 🤣, great fun and great finishes. As far as I know, they are duty paid, I know a few that have bought from the site, and none have mentioned duty, and they certainly would if they had. I had to pay duty when I first got some, but that was a different system. There was no website back then. I keep forgetting to mention a discount code they gave me, it's only 5% but it better than nothing, it's PETEHOBBY , may be useful if you're going to get one, cheers mate 👌
Hi Mate, the beauty of the PRD717 is it ability to perform at low pressures. It can compete and is often better than many more expensive, big-name guns at a lower pressure, meaning less overspray and air consumption. It's a great gun, thanks, buddy 👍
Hi Ken, The Chinese are definitely making better quality guns. These Porphis guns are genuinely very, very good. I love mine and put them right up there with the best, I have a steel tool chest that all my good guns go in for security, then they are in padded case's, the one's that go in padded case's are limited because of room, the Porphis PRD series guns and my Porphis PC415 all get put in case's, not because of value, but because to me they are superior to many others, so they earn there padded case 🤣 ,cheers Ken, hope your keeping well 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 Time to do a video with ALL of your guns Pete. That would be interesting to see the collection and a quick opinion of the best and the worst.
@kenc4104 Hi Ken, I'm working on a top 10 or top 12 type video, the difficulty is putting them in order, I'll follow the same route as the mini gun one I did, which has been well received, should be interesting 😀, thanks mate 👍
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Porphis really didn't lose in terms of finishing to date, and a better value for money.
The Porphis PRD625 finish is just as good for sure and undoubtedly better value for money 👌
I tried both the PHS-155 and the PRD715, and they perform more or less the same. The main differences are that the PHS-155 has a cast body, while the PRD61x and PRD71x have forged bodies. Additionally, the PHS-155 costs less than half the price of a PRD715, making it a real bargain. They are both very good guns, and personally, I prefer them more for clear than for base.
Hi Ben, the PHS155 is, as you say, very good and great value for money. Having said that, they all are, really.
You are right about the bodies. The PRD and PC series are all forged and anodized, making them very durable and comparable to top manufacturers.
I was making a video the other day, using the PHS155 in 1.3 against the Iwata Kiwami4 BA4J 1.3, this is now discontinued, and the PHS155 is every bit as good, if not better than the Kiwami4 BA4J, at just over 100 USD, it's a bargain. Cheers buddy 👌
@@peteshobbies5383 Can't wait for the video PHS-155 vs Kiwami BA4j, mate! I was surprised how good the result was the first time I used the PHS-155
@benjaminchu6699 I ordered one when they first came out, before the website was up and running and the lady said, they are not as well made as the PRD series so wasn't sure if I would like/want it, obviously I knew it was cheaper so something has to be compromised but I was very pleasantly surprised as its still well made and works really well.
Some have messaged me saying they also make great primer guns in 1.8 , which I can believe as the PHS135 is much cheaper and also great for primer, cheers Ben 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 hi pete I have a walcom carbonio halo 1.2 clear gun / new version with garage / how well would it spray basecoat / was trying not to buy the basecoat version / any information would help thanks / also pete you was right about sagola raising there prices in the USA they raise the price to about $900.00 for standard 4600 gun with no Guage and & around $1000.00 for the one with a Guage thanks pete for all the vedio you are putting out
@refinishtechnology2529 Hi Mate, the only real difference is the tips. The base version has a defusing lip around it, so it's not as harsh as the clear coat gun. It could make the basecoat a little dry, but lowering the pressure should help balance it
Another great video. I own the 715 and the 717, originally I was using the 717 for basecoat and the 715 for clear. However I found that I was having issues with coarse metallics with the 717 as I tend to spray and blend many panels at a time and I was just getting modelling especially in the hood. I enjoyed the 715 for clear as it really puts out the material, and the finish was pretty good in all honesty. But I switched the guns around out of curiosity about a month ago now I am spraying clear with the 717 and base with the 715 and I have had no issues with my metallics anymore and let me tell you with the clear that I use in my production shop, which is the Nason 497-00 and the PPG Global D894, the finish is just amazing. the Nason clear with perfectly match factory finish with no effort at all out of the 717, and the PPG clear will give you a near glass like finish for your higher end vehicles out of the 717. I could not be happier. I was using Devilbiss guns before, the Devilbiss plus for my metallics, the ProLite for my clear, I don't even touch them anymore honestly.
Hi Mate, I remember you saying you were having problems, I remember it as of all the people that have contacted me, you'res was the only one having problems with the finish.
I do find it strange that the PRD717 had trouble with the metallic base coats. If I remember rightly, you are using a water-based base coat, something I only have limited experience, only having used 2 makes so couldn't really throw much light on the problem.
Sounds like the switch worked well which is good to hear, not sure if you heard in the video, but a friend of mine has bought a PRD715 and is completely smitten with how well it performs for base coats, so much so, his base coat DV1 B+ is on the reserves bench
Thanks, buddy, much appreciated 👍
I tried to check the manufacture of porphis. 717 to clear. made by Porphis experts
Hi buddy, not quite sure what you mean?
Just curious, how do you like the 497 versus the higher dollar clear?
@@jbcarrico7877 well as a shop that guarantees our work, the 497 clear has not had any returns for say peeling or fade in well over a decade for me. It dries super fast so you need to put your coats pretty much wet on wet or they will orange peel a bit. However it isn't hard to find the sweet spot with the clear. It gets really darn hard btw, so if you are planning to sand and polish the vehicle unless it is say a motorcycle you may want to try a softer clear like AUTOBAHN products, like their glamour clear line. But all in all the 497 is a super reliable product and you can be confident that if you did your job well in the prep work, that you will never have any issues out of the finish.
I actually love the look of the 6 series. It's real unique and different. The 7 series look like a SATA.
Yeah, I do as well, and the 5 series, it's a slightly slimmer version of the 6 series, and I love the purple color it comes in 💜 😁 ,cheers buddy
Great Video: Any plans on reviewing the Porphis PRD-716 or the 626 which are HVLP models - especially with actual air consumption at different air pressures?
Hi Mate, no, not at the moment, I don't have the 716 or 626 setups , maybe in the future 👍
Hi Pete, very enjoyable video mate both guns really hammered the clear down and it looks like the Sata has met it's match here to me the 625 is just as fast as the 5000 plus the finish you got here from both guns is pretty much the same which makes me wonder why we buy these expensive guns when the Porphis guns are just as good🙄👌
I have been doing some experimenting with the fan size on my 717 and IMO just turning it down a little to take the edge of it I don't get each end of the fan going over the wings making more overspray which is wasting clear plus I don't see any difference in the finish, I know you said in your video that you wouldn't do this but I wanted to try it to see what would happen😬 it's early days doing this atm so time will tell🤔
Thanks mate👍
Hi John, You know the PRD625 is fast, so it makes sense to put it against the Sata 5000 RP, which is super fast.
As you can see, the Porphis wasn't scared of the Sata. It's just as good, and I'm getting pretty confident it will last as long, so yes, it makes you wonder why we do pay nearly $1000 USD for these things.
I will get the new Sata when it's out, only because of interest really, if I was just a normal guy, I would just buy a few Porphis guns and get on with it as they are as good as any IMO.
As far as the fan settings are concerned, if it works for you, then that's all that matters, I made the comment really as people often ask me why you need a mini gun as you can make the fan smaller on any big gun, that's where you really do lose some performance, and the reason there are so many tip sizes in smaller guns, cheers mate 👍
Sorry for the late reply mate I don't always get notifications when new comments are up plus someone keeps sending me loads of guns to try so I'll be doing a nightshift in the booth today😪😴😂yeah the 625 is a beast and it made mincemeat of the old Sata👊😂
Like you I want to get the new sata when it comes out but unlike you if I do it will have to be the full digital with the top of the range digital gauge on it, oh just had a thought I've got 4 guns laying around here so I could sell them then put the cash towards the Sata🤔😁
It's probably me but I find the pattern on the 717 is a bit wetter and more controllable if it's wound in a fraction, not my much but just enough to tidy the edges up a bit👌
My next panel will be done will all Porphis guns which should be interesting, wish me luck🤞🤞😬cheers mate👍
Hi Mate, The digital version of the XJet is only 100 GBP more than the standard, so I may well get that one, not that it makes any difference to the performance and normally its a pain, but, I think it's probably the main point of the gun as I can't see it being any better than the X5500, we will see.
Porphis has a new gun out, the PX6, looks good and love the colour 😁cheers mate 👌
Is,thst the phorpis 717 1.3 i love the satajet 5000 as well good video thanks for sharing that information 😊
Hi Andrew, This is the PRD625, so it is very similar performance wise to the PRD715. The Porphis PRD717 is a split tip so different. There is also the PRD627, another split tip gun, this performs a little different to the PRD717, pressure used is a little higher, equally excellent performance wise, cheers mate 👌
Peter here in Brazil we don't know this Porphis brand.
Hi Mate, they have a website, there's links in the description 😀
So what you’re saying is Theresa new sherif in town🤣. You had said it was fast, didn’t realize that fast. So the 625 will also be faster than the Sagola, interesting. Great video Sir, Cheers
Hi Bryan, It really is a fast gun, great fun, and a great finish . You can see the speed the Porphis covers that panel 😀, a great finish as well, and yes, a little faster than the Sagola 4600 DVR Clear 1.3XL, cheers buddy 👍
Pete, when spraying a motorcycle tank, which of the 2 guns will spray clear the flattest: a dv1s or a full size gun with a split nozzle.
I have a dv1s which rules on bike stuff but never owned a split nozzle spraygun so i'm curious.
Hi Harold, The full-size gun with a split tip would still be much faster than a DV1S.
When we talk about slow, it really is relative, so in the case of a PRD717 or WS400 type guns, they are slow compared to a PRD715 or W400 Bellaria, they are all faster than all the minis, thanks mate 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 I didn't mean fastest but most flat (least amount of orange peel) 😂
Sorry i'm not English, i guess flattest isn't a word. 🙂
Hi Harold, Sorry, that is my mistake, I read it as "fastest" when you clearly say "flattest" , flattest is a word and your English is perfectly good, it me who obviously can't read 🫣.
To be honest, both the Porphis PRD717, WS400 type guns and the DV1S produce super flat finishes, so I wouldn't put one above the other, as we have already said, they go about it is different ways, but the result is the same, thanks mate 👍
Porphis spray gun is made by international Zheilang Porphis weapons experts. PRD 717 is designed to clear slow motion but smooth as sata 5000 slow motion. prd 715 fast all-purpose weapon. same sata x5500 movement fast in my opinion. all weapons are great. that depends on how to use this weapon. But the sata 5000 weapon is the greatest weapon I have ever used. 250 cars I sprayed were not polished but the result was like it was polished. the most important technique should know.

Hi mate, I hear what you are saying now. Yes, the PRD717 and PRD627 are both slower in application due to their split tip, the PRD715 and PRD625, the one in this video, are, as you can see, as fast if not faster than the Sata 5000 RP, and, spray just as well, they really are very very good, cheers mate 👍
Mine are no polish too. No pay no polish
Hello again Pete. What grit are sanding the panel with and what are you using to wipe it down before spraying the clear?
Hi Mate, I use a 400 grit on a DA, then normally remove any excess dust with a 90% alcohol 10% water mix, 80/20 in warm summer conditions, then it's a solvent panel wipe, which you see on the video, and a tack rag , cheers mate 👌
@@peteshobbies5383 Thank you. Is the alcohol 70% isopropyl?
@tubbed68cuda , no, it's 99.9% Isopropyl
Not for the faint of heart those two! A fireman turned spray painter might be used to them 😂. Some output from both!
When you buy the Porphis guns from the link, do you pay any duty when they arrive in the UK? I can't find anywhere on their site that says one way or the other.
Thanks for a great and informative video
Hi Dominic, Don't they fly 🤣, great fun and great finishes.
As far as I know, they are duty paid, I know a few that have bought from the site, and none have mentioned duty, and they certainly would if they had.
I had to pay duty when I first got some, but that was a different system. There was no website back then.
I keep forgetting to mention a discount code they gave me, it's only 5% but it better than nothing, it's PETEHOBBY , may be useful if you're going to get one, cheers mate 👌
Ah thanks Pete. That's great to know. I might treat myself to the on that basis alright 😊. Great info as always
@0012dominic You're welcome mate 👍
I have the SATA 5000 HVLP and SATA 5500 RP The Porphis 717 holds its own against the both of them.
Hi Mate, the beauty of the PRD717 is it ability to perform at low pressures. It can compete and is often better than many more expensive, big-name guns at a lower pressure, meaning less overspray and air consumption. It's a great gun, thanks, buddy 👍
I need to get one of these porphis guns before they jack up the prices
Hopefully, they will hold their prices for a while , but yes, certainly worth getting one as they are a bit of a bargain, cheers 👍
With the exception of the WS400 Series 1 where full fan isn't ever going to work.
Hi Mate, Yes, completely, it's the only one I can think of as well 😀 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 I'm laughing my American ass off. "It's a bit of a blaster." Pete, you're just so damn BRITISH!
@satamanschmidt3428 Guilty Sir 🤣
Chinese guns are getting better, but I'll still stick to Devilbiss, Iwata, Meiji. No PORPISH for me.
Hi Ken, The Chinese are definitely making better quality guns. These Porphis guns are genuinely very, very good.
I love mine and put them right up there with the best, I have a steel tool chest that all my good guns go in for security, then they are in padded case's, the one's that go in padded case's are limited because of room, the Porphis PRD series guns and my Porphis PC415 all get put in case's, not because of value, but because to me they are superior to many others, so they earn there padded case 🤣 ,cheers Ken, hope your keeping well 👍
@@peteshobbies5383 Time to do a video with ALL of your guns Pete. That would be interesting to see the collection and a quick opinion of the best and the worst.
@@kenc4104agreed! That would be interesting👍🏻
@kenc4104 Hi Ken, I'm working on a top 10 or top 12 type video, the difficulty is putting them in order, I'll follow the same route as the mini gun one I did, which has been well received, should be interesting 😀, thanks mate 👍
I'm working on it 😁