Thanks for the ride.. I lived in Quincy ,biggest suburb of Boston. Rode the T for many decades and never took this part of Orange line....I hated riding the T back then. I live in Florida now.. Also my parents and Irish family are buried in a cemetery that this trolley runs through. It is the prettiest ride on the T . Unless you take commuter rail or the boats...Thanks again.
Technically, the Ashmont-Mattapan line is part of the red line. These cars were painted about 15 years ago in the cream color to match the scheme used on the MTA before the MBTA was created in 1964. Prior to this color they were usually left green since they were once used on the green line, and a few cars were painted red to match the fact that it's part of the red line. I lived in Quincy as a kid and grew up riding the T. It was a hassle for my parents having to lug around 3 children on it, often with bags, boxes, etc but I loved riding it. I was fascinated by the trains, trolleys, buses, ancient stations and escalators and such. The easiest way to get from where we lived in Quincy to my grandparents house in Hyde Park was to just take 3 local T buses. That was ok but boring. Sometimes I was able to convince my parents to go the "long" way. Bus to Quincy Center, Red line inbound from Quincy to JFK/UMass, then walk across to an outbound train to Ashmont, then on the PCC "high speed" line to Mattapan, then one short local bus ride. Haven't taken this route in 30 years but I remember it like it was yesterday!
Thanks for posting! I just read about this in Railfan Magazine, Sept 2021 issue and i hoped that someone had the full ride on here. I put this on my list. This is really awesome
These ARE them. 😊 All of our cars at Mattapan were on all the Green Line branches at one point or another. And to get even more technical, they still are on the Green Line. All those that operate the cars are Green Line operators and all those of us officials who run the line are Green Line inspectors.
Thanks! It's probably what I spend most of my effort on. You'd be surprised how difficult it is if you aren't constantly paying attention. I'll often end up tilted if anything.
Glad you enjoyed! If I'm not mistaken, they're currently refurbishing these cars (or at least refurbishing ones to add to the fleet.) It was fun to ride!
I took this trolley a few weeks ago, visiting my cousin in Milton. It's double tracked and has a trail running aside it, so it's really a rail/trail. We in Santa Cruz County, California, are hoping for something like this, a rail/trail. Our line is single tracked, but we already had a demo of a light rail trolley that runs on electricity and has no need for overhead wires: Tig-M. Maybe Boston should look into putting the Tig-Ms on this line and do away with the overhead wire and its cost. Anyway, it was a free ride to Ashmont, where we picked up the MTA into the Downtown Crossing in Boston.
It's kind of awesome to know that during the heyday years when these P.C.C. cars were popular. This land was segregated. And to see Afro-American people sitting where ever they want and the moterman also being Afro-American is so awesome to see.
I retired from the MBTA. This is actually a part of the green line. Those trolleys suck to drive, and the AC barely works. I also grew up in Mattapan during the 70s and 80s. This area was Jewish before becoming predominantly African American in the 60s. It is now the home of many people from Haiti and other caribbean countries. It, however, was never segregated.
When I took the trolley early on a Saturday morning, I didn't pay a fare. Is that the way it's run, since almost everyone will be connecting to the subway and will pay then?
@@NTxRE I bet you if they are retired and given to museums they'll be some of the most unique streetcars ever preserved because they're close to a hundred years old and have a mixture of both old technology and new technology
@@BandBHawks Those are going to look really odd on the Mattapan line. Not that I don't want them there, I want this awesome little extension to be around forever both for nostalgia sake and for the local commuters that still rely on it. Just noting that after decades of PCCs on it, it will be a strange sight!
The Cedar Grove cemetery looks like it's right across the street. It shouldn't be a long walk. I don't live there though, so I'm not very familiar with the area.
Thanks for the ride.. I lived in Quincy ,biggest suburb of Boston. Rode the T for many decades and never took this part of Orange line....I hated riding the T back then. I live in Florida now.. Also my parents and Irish family are buried in a cemetery that this trolley runs through. It is the prettiest ride on the T . Unless you take commuter rail or the boats...Thanks again.
I'm glad you enjoyed. Thank you!
Technically, the Ashmont-Mattapan line is part of the red line. These cars were painted about 15 years ago in the cream color to match the scheme used on the MTA before the MBTA was created in 1964. Prior to this color they were usually left green since they were once used on the green line, and a few cars were painted red to match the fact that it's part of the red line. I lived in Quincy as a kid and grew up riding the T. It was a hassle for my parents having to lug around 3 children on it, often with bags, boxes, etc but I loved riding it. I was fascinated by the trains, trolleys, buses, ancient stations and escalators and such. The easiest way to get from where we lived in Quincy to my grandparents house in Hyde Park was to just take 3 local T buses. That was ok but boring. Sometimes I was able to convince my parents to go the "long" way. Bus to Quincy Center, Red line inbound from Quincy to JFK/UMass, then walk across to an outbound train to Ashmont, then on the PCC "high speed" line to Mattapan, then one short local bus ride. Haven't taken this route in 30 years but I remember it like it was yesterday!
Thanks for posting! I just read about this in Railfan Magazine, Sept 2021 issue and i hoped that someone had the full ride on here. I put this on my list. This is really awesome
Glad you enjoyed the video! It's been a while since I was there so I hope it's still the same. Boston was a great city to visit.
19:52 Ashmont
2:29 Cedar Grove
3:59 Butler
4:52 Milton
6:17 Central Avenue
7:49 Valley Road
8:46 Capen Street
9:44 Mattapan
We used to pick up the Green Line at Newton Center in the late 60s and early 70s to go into Boston. These cars totally remind me of them.
These ARE them. 😊 All of our cars at Mattapan were on all the Green Line branches at one point or another. And to get even more technical, they still are on the Green Line. All those that operate the cars are Green Line operators and all those of us officials who run the line are Green Line inspectors.
This video is so nostalgic to me, having been born in 1982 in milton and taking these same trolleys (they're were green in the 90's). Excellent video
Glad you enjoyed! Thanks for watching!
I can't wait to go on one of these soon
It's a fun experience!
I like how well you handle the camera. nice and stable.
Thanks! It's probably what I spend most of my effort on. You'd be surprised how difficult it is if you aren't constantly paying attention. I'll often end up tilted if anything.
Killer video. Thanks for posting. Id love to take a trip up to Boston just to ride one of those trolleys.
Glad you enjoyed! If I'm not mistaken, they're currently refurbishing these cars (or at least refurbishing ones to add to the fleet.) It was fun to ride!
When you were filming, I saw an incredibles 2 sign on a bus.
Good catch! I didn't see it!
I took this trolley a few weeks ago, visiting my cousin in Milton. It's double tracked and has a trail running aside it, so it's really a rail/trail. We in Santa Cruz County, California, are hoping for something like this, a rail/trail. Our line is single tracked, but we already had a demo of a light rail trolley that runs on electricity and has no need for overhead wires: Tig-M. Maybe Boston should look into putting the Tig-Ms on this line and do away with the overhead wire and its cost. Anyway, it was a free ride to Ashmont, where we picked up the MTA into the Downtown Crossing in Boston.
I saw the other comment... That's pretty interesting!
these the same cars that used to operate in newark just with different paint.
Enjoy it while you can the mbta is planning to rebuild the line and replace them with the type 9's after the type 10's arrive from caf.
It was a fun ride! I'm glad I got to get a video of it before the replacement.
It's kind of awesome to know that during the heyday years when these P.C.C. cars were popular. This land was segregated. And to see Afro-American people sitting where ever they want and the moterman also being Afro-American is so awesome to see.
WOW..... imagine living like that.
I retired from the MBTA. This is actually a part of the green line. Those trolleys suck to drive, and the AC barely works. I also grew up in Mattapan during the 70s and 80s. This area was Jewish before becoming predominantly African American in the 60s. It is now the home of many people from Haiti and other caribbean countries. It, however, was never segregated.
Check the Tig-M demo on this site in Santa Cruz last fall. We could have something just like this line, minus the overhead wires.
I'll have to look it up! Thanks for sharing!
When I took the trolley early on a Saturday morning, I didn't pay a fare. Is that the way it's run, since almost everyone will be connecting to the subway and will pay then?
THESE Trolley Trains Are Very Same As The Doors Of The Green Line Trains.
If the vintage cars get worn out they could always have replicas made with original specifications
Indeed! As you saw though, those old cars have been modernized, which breathed a great amount of life into them.
@@NTxRE I bet you if they are retired and given to museums they'll be some of the most unique streetcars ever preserved because they're close to a hundred years old and have a mixture of both old technology and new technology
After the introduction of the Type 10s on the Green Line, the CAF Type 9s will be shifted to the Mattapan Line.
@@BandBHawks Those are going to look really odd on the Mattapan line. Not that I don't want them there, I want this awesome little extension to be around forever both for nostalgia sake and for the local commuters that still rely on it. Just noting that after decades of PCCs on it, it will be a strange sight!
Look what septa did to there pcc cars look up route 15 trolley
is there a specific subway line i can take to the mattapan line
Red line to Ashmont
Are the traction motors original?
I actually don't know! I have quite a few regular viewers from the area though, so hopefully they can help you!
Is it much of a walk from Cedar Grove station to the cemetery?
The Cedar Grove cemetery looks like it's right across the street. It shouldn't be a long walk. I don't live there though, so I'm not very familiar with the area.
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This type of operation should be duplicated on many of the rail lines throughout the metro area that were converted to trails.