How about cutting off the rear subframe where it joins the tubular frame and weld in your piece of U tube with the seat on top. Make some shock mounts so they are vertical to give you extra height and use some tube sections to triangulate back down to the existing frame. Good luck!
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Build you own sub frame would be the best way but you need to make sure it's welded properly as it would be taking the load from the rear suspension. Failing that I'd cut the pressed frame sections back closer to the shock mounts and angle the support pieces to the hoop at the same angle as the bottom frame tubes. Also make you own seat rather than compromise with the one you have. I'd ditch that mudguard as well. There are rear plastic guards with light fittings available for off road bikes. Should be able to find one with number plate mounts as well.
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I think Sid’s tank is from a CB400 Hondamatic.( automatic Gearbox) which came out around the same time as the CB250T.. I believe the same thank was used on the US version of the CB250/400T in the US which they called the Hawk.
The problem with how it looks all stems from the ugly pressed steel rear frame, still be there even if you cut it short. Be bold, cut it off completely! Either make a new sub frame (difficult) or get a bolt on subframe from another bike (Bsa Bantam, Triumph Tiger Cub or similar), weld on lugs to the Honda frame to bolt on the subframe. I would do the latter if it was my bike. Longer shocks if you can't get enough travel. Universal plastic rear mudguard, universal trials seat, universal light unit & number plate mounting. Problem solved.
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ryan mate youve got a welder and a grinder cut that horrible rear sub frame off and build your own itll look better and you can build it how you want , think big mate lol
Honestly, I am far too scared to cut the back end off. I don't disagree your suggestion would be better, but I really want to end up with a bike I can use, and I fear that removing the rear frame would result in something beyond my skill level to rebuild straight and strong.
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To all those people suggesting he cut off the whole rear end and reconstructing it: are there not implications for registering it? Is an engineer’s report needed? It’s one thing welding on a seat hoop, but totally rebuilding the rear subframe is an another thing altogether.
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I'm with woody Ryan. I think the only way forward is to build the subframe. loose the original and build your own from tube and weld it. I've tried to use original subframes b4 and ended up chopping it all off because oem frames are ugly and hidden by plastic . Custom bikes are usually naked and minimal and tubular. I know it looks and sounds daunting but you can do it. And the end product will be really good. You don't want to read this but it's what we are all hoping you'll end up doing. Sorry brother 👍✌️❤️
I understand what you are saying. But, I feel I need to persist for now with the original frame, as I can always cut it off later in the build if necessary. I know it won't be the best custom build, but it needs to be within my ability, and I have literally only welded a few times and don't fancy the rear suspension failing. Take care.
@@RyansGarageUK find someone to weld for u then. Thing is, in the hight u want the seat to be, u will have to cut the original frame, otherwise it will look ridiculous, and pls dont try to cover anything. Just cut the frame and get new shocks.
No worries Ryan, I get it and applaud your caution. But you realise we're all going to keep moaning until you hack it off! Bless you my friend , it's all meant in good faith. Peace and love brother 👍✌️❤️
You'd be better off building the subframe to the hoop rather than trying to accommodate both unless you put a flat tracker seat unit on to cover the gap..
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Ditch that ugly original subframe and start fresh including new shock mounts ( and maybe longer shocks). Applaud what you are trying to do, but even if you succeed it will look piecemeal and not an integrated unit. You might need some professional welding once you work it out. Keep trying you will get there.
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How about cutting off the rear subframe where it joins the tubular frame and weld in your piece of U tube with the seat on top.
Make some shock mounts so they are vertical to give you extra height and use some tube sections to triangulate back down to the existing frame.
Good luck!
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Build you own sub frame would be the best way but you need to make sure it's welded properly as it would be taking the load from the rear suspension. Failing that I'd cut the pressed frame sections back closer to the shock mounts and angle the support pieces to the hoop at the same angle as the bottom frame tubes. Also make you own seat rather than compromise with the one you have. I'd ditch that mudguard as well. There are rear plastic guards with light fittings available for off road bikes. Should be able to find one with number plate mounts as well.
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Glad to see you lowering it Ryan .. phew 😜
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I think Sid’s tank is from a CB400 Hondamatic.( automatic Gearbox) which came out around the same time as the CB250T.. I believe the same thank was used on the US version of the CB250/400T in the US which they called the Hawk.
Thanks Peter, I suspect that knowing where I got the tank from you are most likely correct.
The problem with how it looks all stems from the ugly pressed steel rear frame, still be there even if you cut it short.
Be bold, cut it off completely!
Either make a new sub frame (difficult) or get a bolt on subframe from another bike (Bsa Bantam, Triumph Tiger Cub or similar), weld on lugs to the Honda frame to bolt on the subframe. I would do the latter if it was my bike.
Longer shocks if you can't get enough travel.
Universal plastic rear mudguard, universal trials seat, universal light unit & number plate mounting.
Problem solved.
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@@RyansGarageUK Yes the CB250 frame is not the easiest to modify.
ryan mate youve got a welder and a grinder cut that horrible rear sub frame off and build your own itll look better and you can build it how you want , think big mate lol
Me too buddy. I've just repeated your sentiments. 👍
Honestly, I am far too scared to cut the back end off. I don't disagree your suggestion would be better, but I really want to end up with a bike I can use, and I fear that removing the rear frame would result in something beyond my skill level to rebuild straight and strong.
Have a look at some photos of Triumph desert sleds it may give you some ideas.
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To all those people suggesting he cut off the whole rear end and reconstructing it: are there not implications for registering it? Is an engineer’s report needed? It’s one thing welding on a seat hoop, but totally rebuilding the rear subframe is an another thing altogether.
Hi, Thank you for your comment. I feel I need to consider and discuss this in my next upload. So please give me a short while and watch this space. Ryan
I'm with woody Ryan. I think the only way forward is to build the subframe. loose the original and build your own from tube and weld it. I've tried to use original subframes b4 and ended up chopping it all off because oem frames are ugly and hidden by plastic . Custom bikes are usually naked and minimal and tubular. I know it looks and sounds daunting but you can do it. And the end product will be really good. You don't want to read this but it's what we are all hoping you'll end up doing. Sorry brother 👍✌️❤️
I understand what you are saying. But, I feel I need to persist for now with the original frame, as I can always cut it off later in the build if necessary. I know it won't be the best custom build, but it needs to be within my ability, and I have literally only welded a few times and don't fancy the rear suspension failing. Take care.
@@RyansGarageUK find someone to weld for u then. Thing is, in the hight u want the seat to be, u will have to cut the original frame, otherwise it will look ridiculous, and pls dont try to cover anything. Just cut the frame and get new shocks.
No worries Ryan, I get it and applaud your caution. But you realise we're all going to keep moaning until you hack it off! Bless you my friend , it's all meant in good faith. Peace and love brother 👍✌️❤️
You'd be better off building the subframe to the hoop rather than trying to accommodate both unless you put a flat tracker seat unit on to cover the gap..
Hi, Thank you for your comment. I feel I need to consider and discuss this in my next upload. So please give me a short while and watch this space. Ryan
Ditch that ugly original subframe and start fresh including new shock mounts ( and maybe longer shocks). Applaud what you are trying to do, but even if you succeed it will look piecemeal and not an integrated unit. You might need some professional welding once you work it out. Keep trying you will get there.
Hi, Thank you for your comment. I feel I need to consider and discuss this in my next upload. So please give me a short while and watch this space. Ryan