No one tells of the old days like cornette does, and the post office Playboy is one of the few that is on his level when it comes to wrestling knowledge and wit. Keep em comin
Because Snowman pawned the belt, they used Lawler's old AWA belt to be the Unified title. Amazing how that old AWA belt lasted until 1997, years after the AWA folded.
Jim Cornette is my guy! I didn’t know he was a real one. He’s brutally honest about what went down in the WWF/WWE. He’s telling it all! Very interesting!
If you want real stories and honest history about wrestling or want to learn Cornette is the guy you should listen too the guy is literally a pro wrestling historian and was in the business for over 30 years
As a kid in the south I remember people talking about JYD but I didn’t hear of hulk hogan until I got into wrestling myself around 12-13 during the attitude era
@@scrappy93 The problem is that few had the it factor like I said. Ernie Ladd, JYD, and a handful of others did get pushed.. most as heels though. JYD was one of the few who had the factor to be a face.
The Snowman debut in Little Rock, Ar. (Barton Colusem) snowman won the battle royal. $1,500 . Looking back he just won the match. Watts did not drop 1,500 To snowman. Just a Push to get Over.
Duggan was so popular that I heard about him on other promotions.. GCW in the 80's were showing clips of him on there show.. I could not watch Duggan until he went to WWF...
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Sounds like Watts was doing the same thing McMahon has always done. Casting wrestlers for a gimmick, instead of coming up with a gimmick to match the wrestler.
CJ J I think you're TL Hopper reference isn't really getting the point. A better reference would be how Vince used Warrior and later Lex Luger to try and fill Hogan's role with not as much success. That's what Watts was trying to recapture as JYD had been that big of a star for him. I think all promoters have fallen into the trap of trying to put a carbon copy of the last big star in to fill the role. It's not really about gimmicks as such but promoters will try and keep a winning formula with the kind of talent that appeals to certain markets. However in both examples given trying to replace JYD with another African American star or Hogan with another muscle man the problem is that it's unlikely you'll catch lightning in a bottle twice. Vince got close with Warrior but Warrior was more popular when he was chasing the top spot but didn't draw once on top.
I'm not going to deny that Watts had (and maybe still has) some pretty unpleasant views and he's certainly said some awful things in the past. But at the same time he also knew that that African Americans were a huge part of his market. JYD actually got over with white fans as well. In terms of promoting wrestlers to appeal to ethnicities Watts certainly wasn't alone. Vince McMahon Sr did this with promoting Bruno Sammartino and Pedro Morales to appeal to Italian and Puerto Rican fans and even Vince Jr has done this. When he realised that Hispanics were a huge demographic he started pushing Eddie Guerrero and Rey Mysterio (Not that they didn't deserve their pushes). The strange thing about Watts is that he also had Ernie Ladd as a booker for large parts of his time as a promoter. I'm not excusing the stuff Watts has said in the past but I think he wasn't so prejudiced that he would let it get in the way of business.
. I'm sure his reasons for pushing black wrestlers weren't exactly altruistic. He said it himself that he saw green before he saw black or white. There probably some old school promoters that were reluctant to push black wrestlers for reasons that weren't business minded. In a lot of the old territories you would find that they would only have one or two black wrestlers on the roster at any one time. It was if they had to have a token black wrestler just to appeal to that audience.
Why didn't Bill Watts replace the JYD with established "Baby-Face" Black/ African American at that time (not under contract w/ the WWWF/WWF) with either Thunderbolt Patterson, Big Red (distant relative of mine), Koko B. Ware or Brickhouse Brown? I don't think Koko was the WWF during that time. Anyone remember Mid-South Black/ African American Pro Wrestlers Savannah Jack & Ranger Ross back in the 1980's?
Mr. M A J E S T I C XIII . Blackstruggle77 yes I remember him. I grew up in Tulsa during the early 80’s so I grew up watching live Mid south wrestling every Sunday night.
At that time, black people hated Lawler so much,, he could have put Reggie B. Fine or TD Steele over and they'd have sufficed. Ahh, they still hate us here; so nothings changed.
He's basically a wrestling historian who was around for just about everything during the last 30 years. And he's been friends with Cornette since the early 90s.
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The fact this happened in USWA alone makes me believe it.
i thought the feud was just a "work"
That old Unified World belt was actually a good looking title.
Got it sitting in my manroom in my house
Yes it did.
Always love the MidSouth promo Snowman cut after taking the whip away from Dutch Mantel. Ain't nobody gonna bullwhip no brotha!
No one tells of the old days like cornette does, and the post office Playboy is one of the few that is on his level when it comes to wrestling knowledge and wit. Keep em comin
Because Snowman pawned the belt, they used Lawler's old AWA belt to be the Unified title. Amazing how that old AWA belt lasted until 1997, years after the AWA folded.
A belt that was never returned to replace a belt never returned......ironic
Lol fake news
Dave Millican now has the ring used USWA Unified World Championship & the Curt Henning AWA World Heavyweight Championship.
Even the big AWA title before is still being defended as the Zero1 World Heavyweight Championship in Japan
Uswa was awesome back in the day
Reminds me of wrestlemania 11 when Kama Mustafa said that he was going to take the urn and melt it down and make it into a gold chain!
And did it lol.. N extra funny when undertaker won it back n raised it up like the urn lls 🤣🤣. God I loved that old "good shit" in my Vince voice
Brian Last can actually go back and forth with Cornette with his wrestling knowledge. That former NPR lady Corny used to carry was hard to listen to.
She tried hard and had a super soothing voice and I enjoyed listening to her but yeah Brian is a much better fit.
Super soothing? Yeah, like sandpaper to my asshole...
That’s his wife! lmao
The Alice Radley Meltdown is still one of my all time fave podcasting moments
marcus gurley no stacy cornette a former wrestler is jims wife. alice was NOT relation to Jim dumb
Jim Cornette is my guy! I didn’t know he was a real one. He’s brutally honest about what went down in the WWF/WWE. He’s telling it all! Very interesting!
Yep
If you want real stories and honest history about wrestling or want to learn Cornette is the guy you should listen too the guy is literally a pro wrestling historian and was in the business for over 30 years
They don’t call him the Snowman for nothing lol
😂😂😂
I herd why cause he liked snow too much guy was piece of shit.
Cause he dealt that snow, mmmmaaaannnn
Might as well call him Nut Meg since he could ever afford the pure pre cut powder
That comment about a promoter holding himself up for more money reminded me of that scene in Blazing Saddles where Bart takes himself hostage.
If he put up that $5,000 security bond for the belt's safety like the old NWA belt it probably would've never happened lol
it was 10
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The USWA paid no one, except Lawler , enough that they could bonsd a chicken dinner
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@@pooddescrewch8718they got paid in rats
As a white guy from houston I can tell you JYD was way bigger than hulk Hogan when I was a kid
As a kid in the south I remember people talking about JYD but I didn’t hear of hulk hogan until I got into wrestling myself around 12-13 during the attitude era
Nobody cares what color you are.
In Corsicana they still remember the MidNight Express in the rodeo barn and wolf brand chilie
I remember hearing that story back in the day here.
I crack up every time I hear Corny say, "Snowman sucked! He was the fuckin' shits!"
I'd like to point that the second USWA Unified Champion was The Undertaker XD
XD? The fuck is that?
@@joeuyrwy9739 smh boomer
I will say this.. Corny is totally right about JYD. *Very few black wrestlers had the "It factor" like JYD.*
Very few got pushed smdh.
@@scrappy93 The problem is that few had the it factor like I said. Ernie Ladd, JYD, and a handful of others did get pushed.. most as heels though. JYD was one of the few who had the factor to be a face.
The Snowman debut in Little Rock, Ar. (Barton Colusem) snowman won the battle royal. $1,500 .
Looking back he just won the match. Watts did not drop 1,500
To snowman. Just a Push to get
Over.
"The Pothtofith Playboy"!!! ROTFL!!!!
I totally agree that Hacksaw Duggan could've carried Mid South as the champion
Snowman tried to be Memphis version of Thunderbolt Patterson
If only he had time
If King Moved ... If King Moved ...
Snowman looks like that guy from the meme
Eddie Crawford's son Xavier was a big time college football recruit...almost went to Alabama but wound up going to memphis
And prison afterwards 😥
I'd spend $65 on a "the Great Brian Last on a Pole Match".
Had the Snowman won the battle royal in L.R. , Ar at the Barton Colusem. And you knew snowman
Sucked.
Nobody smells as bad as Andre the Giant in a hotel room one time he made me puke on the floor
And my uncle and an empty Gatorade bottle where the only thing in that room not drenched in piss. Good times Gary, you are legend
lol imagine the ego thinking you deserve to be booked over Jerry Lawler in Memphis. No one even knows who the hell Snowman is
He’s the first guy to kick out of Jake’s DDT. That can’t help the ego either.
It was more about MONEY
Duggan was so popular that I heard about him on other promotions.. GCW in the 80's were showing clips of him on there show.. I could not watch Duggan until he went to WWF...
What about Brickhouse Brown
Snowman lmao
Anyway something tells me Dog wasn't popular everywhere in those states lol.
Also don't forget Charlie Cook.
What the hell is a burger towel?
A Black Towel That People Use to Clean Themselves After Having Various Types of Burgers (Most Preferably Wendy's)
Sounds like Watts was doing the same thing McMahon has always done. Casting wrestlers for a gimmick, instead of coming up with a gimmick to match the wrestler.
CJ J I think you're TL Hopper reference isn't really getting the point. A better reference would be how Vince used Warrior and later Lex Luger to try and fill Hogan's role with not as much success. That's what Watts was trying to recapture as JYD had been that big of a star for him. I think all promoters have fallen into the trap of trying to put a carbon copy of the last big star in to fill the role. It's not really about gimmicks as such but promoters will try and keep a winning formula with the kind of talent that appeals to certain markets. However in both examples given trying to replace JYD with another African American star or Hogan with another muscle man the problem is that it's unlikely you'll catch lightning in a bottle twice. Vince got close with Warrior but Warrior was more popular when he was chasing the top spot but didn't draw once on top.
I'm not going to deny that Watts had (and maybe still has) some pretty unpleasant views and he's certainly said some awful things in the past. But at the same time he also knew that that African Americans were a huge part of his market. JYD actually got over with white fans as well. In terms of promoting wrestlers to appeal to ethnicities Watts certainly wasn't alone. Vince McMahon Sr did this with promoting Bruno Sammartino and Pedro Morales to appeal to Italian and Puerto Rican fans and even Vince Jr has done this. When he realised that Hispanics were a huge demographic he started pushing Eddie Guerrero and Rey Mysterio (Not that they didn't deserve their pushes). The strange thing about Watts is that he also had Ernie Ladd as a booker for large parts of his time as a promoter. I'm not excusing the stuff Watts has said in the past but I think he wasn't so prejudiced that he would let it get in the way of business.
. I'm sure his reasons for pushing black wrestlers weren't exactly altruistic. He said it himself that he saw green before he saw black or white. There probably some old school promoters that were reluctant to push black wrestlers for reasons that weren't business minded. In a lot of the old territories you would find that they would only have one or two black wrestlers on the roster at any one time. It was if they had to have a token black wrestler just to appeal to that audience.
@ he had the black top wrestler because of demographic dumbfuck . Furthermore his book was ladd you fuckstick
RIP Suzie
if you had the match b4 the baby. would it be a handicap match?
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Quicker than s hiccup. LOL!!
Well, you know.. that belongs to me you know. Huh?
A pole match? So there is something that Jim Cornette and Vince Russo have in common.
Except Corny and Last were being sarcastic there while Russo legitimately thought stupid pole matches made for great tv
Blashamy sir blashamy 😑
Why didn't Bill Watts replace the JYD with established "Baby-Face" Black/ African American at that time (not under contract w/ the WWWF/WWF) with either Thunderbolt Patterson, Big Red (distant relative of mine), Koko B. Ware or Brickhouse Brown? I don't think Koko was the WWF during that time.
Anyone remember Mid-South Black/ African American Pro Wrestlers Savannah Jack & Ranger Ross back in the 1980's?
Mr. M A J E S T I C XIII . Blackstruggle77 yes I remember him. I grew up in Tulsa during the early 80’s so I grew up watching live Mid south wrestling every Sunday night.
Is that the same Ranger Ross that had a cup of coffee in WCW?
I personally thought they would have flipped Butch Reed to baby face, then they could have had unlimited strong heels to face Reed.
Thunderbolt was terrible in the ring. Heck of a talent in terms of promos and such though. If Koko was available he woulda been a great call.
Double D - Now that I think about it, youre absolutely right about Butch Reed.
I never heard of Snow Man until this interview interesting back story.
Why not just say Drug Dealer ? SNOWMAN !?!
Biden said Kamala
At that time, black people hated Lawler so much,, he could have put Reggie B. Fine or TD Steele over and they'd have sufficed.
Ahh, they still hate us here; so nothings changed.
A Brian Last on a forklift
Lol😊
who is Brian last. honestly not trying to be funny. I don't remember him from watching wrestling growing up
kareem ford don't think he was ever a wrestler, just a commentator
He's basically a wrestling historian who was around for just about everything during the last 30 years. And he's been friends with Cornette since the early 90s.
he attended mass Smoky Mountain shows and met Jim there
Absolutely no one:
Brian: "Well this person is ___ ethnicity. Impossible for them to lose a fight. Let me tell you about my 'militant' judaism."
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