Letting your light out with Helen Orr | Helen Orr EP 3
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- Tammy Peterson welcome guest Helen Orr. The two discuss many topics surrounding church and faith. These two chat on good and evil, memory in buildings or what some call haunting, making the church a welcoming place, traditional morning and evening prayers, vulnerability, embracing the loss of total control, Helen’s beautiful home, and much more.
The Honorable Helen Orr is the Vicar of The Benefices of Bassingbourn and Whaddon. She is also a songwriter/singer. She is also married to Dr. James Orr is Assistant Professor of Philosophy of Religion at the Faculty of Divinity at Cambridge University.
Check out the prayer apps Helen and Tammy discuss,
Pray As You Go: pray-as-you-go...
Daily Prayer: apps.apple.com...
Books mentioned,
Brother Lawrence - The Practice of the Presence of God
Simon Barrington Ward - The Jesus prayer
I am so glad you are letting your light shine, Tammy. Pure Intellect has limitations, and you have intuition and spirituality. That is a very profound type of intelligence that our culture is missing. I think living from that place cures immune dysregulation. Not easy to do, but it’s our calling
Thanks very much for your reply
Hello all dear friends it makes me so happy to be among kindred spirits. Thank you both love you.🕊✨💖
Tammy- it is such a joy to listen to you speak so serenely about your journey with God. I loved when you said that you wake up every day and ask God what the plan is. I’ve had a very similar experience where God is now the center of my daily life. I’m not living it perfectly of course, but I now consider God first before I make any decision, to make sure it is pleasing to Him and that it coincides with His will for me. May God bless you and your family on this beautiful journey. It’s also been a joy to watch Mikhaila grow in her faith, as well as Jordan’s! I’ve been moved to tears many times 🌹You have a very special
family! Helen was wonderful as well!!!
This was a lovely conversation and Helen Orr is such a wonderful person. Just listening to her, you can tell how down to earth she is, such a delightful light. Each topic was very relatable and it made me feel more comfortable with my decision to transition back into a more spiritual life.
The bit about buildings and old memories was very interesting, before my husband and I got our offer accepted at our current home. I had the strangest dream the night before of the current homeowner celebrating with his small dogs on selling the place. The previous owners must have had a loving relationship, they were an older couple and the wife passed away a few years before. The energy was very light and loving and we can feel it everyday. We're also very lucky to live on a mountain in the forest.
God is definitey in everything as Helen mentions and nature is just one of those beautiful creations. Just sitting on the patio and watching the lilacs and elderberries bloom brings so much joy.
Would love to see/hear you and Helen again on your podcast. ❤
This was a great discussion. My boxer dog Rosie, loved everybody and everything. The homeless on the street were loved just as much as anyone. She was pure love, an angel.
Thank you
I'm feeling blessed by this wonderful conversation. Thank you 😊
This conversation is absolutely marvelous! I love these two women so much. This was a blessing to me
Thanks for all the interviews, podcasts, and everything you do, Tammy. You inspire and shine a light more than you know.
What a delightful surprise as now I have quality content to listen to at my nightjob! 💙
How uplifting thank you Tammy
❤️🙏🏻
gentle humility is a beautiful thing to behold. Thanks to you both
I really needed this this morning.
🌺🙏🏻❤️
First of all, seeing you start your video broadcasting from your laundry room is the most amazing thing I've ever seen on TH-cam! I think we both own the same iron!
As for Helen Orr, what a jewel! I would gladly move to the UK to be at her church, and hang out in her garden. Her idea about the church as a coffee shop is absolutely brilliant!!! I wish I had thought of that. The best I could do was the church as a hotel, where churches would build hotels, operate them, and meet in one of the banquet rooms on the weekend. No business does a better job of rendering service and showing hospitality that a good hotel. But I like the coffee shop idea better, as it's far more practical, and existing buildings could easily be used. Here in the USA, it's not unusual to see old churches turned into restaurants, bars, and even breweries.
Now, I have a special book for you to read, and I'm sure Helen Orr is very familiar with it. The book is called "Revelations of Divine Love" by Julian of Norwich. The version I recommend is translated by Grace Warrack, modernized by Yolande Clarke, with an introduction by A.N. Wilson. The ISBN is 978-0-281-07707-6.
Why this book? Julian of Norwich is a 14th century female mystic. She had 16 visions of the Passion of Christ, and recorded them in a book. It is believed to be the first book authored by a woman in English history. The visions she had are just amazing, and her writing is beautiful. I think you'll find it to be an amazing read.
God bless you for creating this channel, and it's content. It's been a real blessing to me.
Praying for you and your family, and glad to see how many prayers have already been answered!
I LOVE the idea of having churches as coffee houses. I love being in churches and feeling their reverence. But, because I did not grow up religious entering feels unapproachable, awkward, like I am trespassing. I would go have (a good) coffee in a heartbeat. Sounds like heaven
I’ve recently been going to a traditional Anglican Church in the US and find it absolutely beautiful and comprehensive liturgy. 🙏Thank you for this discussion. Lovely
It is so enjoyable to listen to two women discussing faith. I wish there were more women in the field of theology. Thank you for organizing this interview. Keep doing.
What a lovely conversation. I felt a kindred spirit to these two lovely women of God.
Loved this. Downloaded the Daily Prayer app. Thank you Tammy.
I love your honesty and your searching Tammy. I love your 'not knowing' and yet at the same time, your 'knowing'. I wonder if you've come across Fr. Thomas Keating? What he talks about might speak to you. Thank you for becoming public, you have a lot to offer.
I just saw the short clip and didn’t realize the whole video was out:) looking forward to this:)
I often feel the spirit in the wilderness, in a grove of trees ... and also in some cathedrals. How interesting to think that it is potentially from the residue of thousands of years of the spot being where people came to worship. I'm so glad to find this conversation.
What you said after 56:00 was helpful to me, Tamara. I've long been afraid too of surrendering control, even though it's to the best and most all-encompassing part of me: God, IEUE: Befaller. It's encouraging to hear that you are learning this, yourself.
Given how restless I am, and prone to wandering as I have been, I'm blessed that my literal God-Father reminds me regularly that He only has what is most compelling, revivifying, edifying, and fulfilling, for me, on the Straight and Narrow Way. If He did not have an angel or an ass to block or trip me each time I strayed, I would be dead or in hell by now.
Instead, I am humbled, challenged, and learning how to be 'happening' i.e. happy, even as I die and grow, inbetween the moments of spiritual sleep and suffering, leading to further realization and appreciation. But only when I listen and relent, and then walk to His/Her/Their/Our/My/Your lead.
Thank you. This was helpful and enjoyable to listen to. I appreciate that you come from an every-day woman sort of place, since that’s what most of us are 😊
Appreciated hearing this very much. The idea of pointing to self rather than God was reassuring and convicting, the beautiful reminder of breath in liturgy, the timely warning that evil is in those who call what is black, white, and the joy in opening our eyes to what God wants us to see each day. So fun to finish with the vicar singing! Thank you both!
Thanks for your reply
For spiritual matters, I recommend you to talk to American pastor Jesse Lee Peterson. He is so wise. He already talked to Jordan 5 years ago.
God, don'tcha just love pretty women!
I'm a singer/songwriter, too. You write your stuff and put it out and let the chips fall. I love my stuff whether anyone else does or not. I know I'd love your music, vicar.
Tammy, I'll be here with gratitude for you budding ministry.
Another fantastic conversation. Thank you both for the light x
This was a beautiful conversation. Thank you 🥰
I absolutely enjoyed this, hoping you may do another podcast together ❤️
I would love to see you read and have a discussion with Susana Clarke on her book Piranesi. Thanks for sharing these conversations on TH-cam and thinking publically!
Christ is risen and so is Tammy😁. Great to see new content from you.
I really appreciated this discussion. Thank you. One thought. I have my doubts about making a church into a coffee cafe. I recently returned to my childhood church finding it modernised. I won't be going back. Was disappointed and see no place for me there. Please reflect before you destroy.
You mention how you communicate with God & how you don't know anything. It sounds like you can also imagine God, talk with him, and learn what he wants you to do. Is this about right? Or, where am I wrong?
Love your channel Tammy. Both you and Helen are inspiring. Would love you to chat with Iain McGilchrist on his take on spirituality. His new book is fascinating and I’d love your take.
❤
Precious conversation, it reminds of my favorite quote from Thomas gospel: "“If you bring forth what is within you, what you bring forth will save you. If you do not bring forth what is within you, what you do not bring forth will destroy you.”
Pls consider making your videos downloadable for offline viewing
Where do we find Helen's services? I would love to follow a service.
P.s. #Meaningwave Exists!
Religion or any culture of belief in the beginning can give meaning and sense of belonging especially in the face of death…I went on a 40 year journey in the Christian faith…it gave me a feeling of acceptance but sadly the idolization of God, Jesus,prayers, and service to certain dogmas led me to dissatisfaction and deconstructing of my faith….Christianity clings to the Christ while other traditions emphasis other certain aspects in the quest for truth ….what I found is that Christianity is basically fear driven and what you believe about the supernatural will manifest depending on the religious tradition you adopt…Christians see demons and devils and Jesus while Buddhists may see their icons while in prayer or worship…those images can appear in the mind because that’s the teaching Christianity promotes….it’s a mind game….any time you pray to something outside your self you are creating an idol of worship because you gave “ God” a physical form
It what I would have asked you Tammy, about your house. With everything that happened to your family health wise I would have left the house a long time ago
The secret to do 3 hour videos, is to increase the playback speed to 2x in the settings.
Hi, Tammy. Since I don't know how to otherwise reach you (you can check your LinkedIn), I'm going to prepare for you a printed and bound copy of my gospel compilation with inserted old-testament passages where relevant (which you commented that you'd like to read). I'll be attending Jordan's first scheduled talk at Place des Arts in Montreal, and can maybe hand it to you there (or to Jordan at a book signing if you won't be there).
Do you have a preferred English translation of the Bible? I was working with the NKJV.
Thank you. I will be there with Dr Peterson. King James Version
@@TammyPetersonPodcast I'm enjoying putting this together in word-processor, finally (I'm currently on Jesus's baptism.) I recall hearing Dr. Peterson say that he prefers a version of the KJV that parses out the Bible's poetry into lines of verse. I am doing that, because it's how I like my scripture as well.
At McGill, I study Biblical Hebrew poetry and the ancient Jewish tradition of chanting scripture based on prosodic intonation (which led to systems of cantillation). I also have a project with a young Music History student to possibly clarify the origins of Gregorian chant.
@@TammyPetersonPodcast The VIP people told me to wait at the VIP table in the front lobby (the public indoor entrance to the theatre). They said that you or someone else might (or might not) come out to meet me and get my document. For now, I'm reading and waiting. Update: I spoke with Jonathan. He said that he can forward it to you if I e-mail it to him. I'll stay here for a bit longer, though.
🍞🍞
Tammy, please be Catholic. Protestant is practically atheist and being spiritual is pleasant but just a half way house and won’t bring you home. You deserve the best.❤️
‘Practically atheist’ that’s quite the leap. Protestants and Catholics worship the same god and accept Christ. We should unite on that front and not point fingers accusing others of imposter syndrome.
Is it still necessary to bring this kind of division into Christianity? Are we afraid of our Lords luck of mercy this much? How about having more humility, more love and more trust in him instead.
Because if Gods Kingdom is something like "a mustard seed", it is bound to become something with branches. Right? In fact ...watching his creation left and right lets start becoming ready for something very much like that. Something colorful branching left and right and yet being the one thing prophecised.
@@setsappa1540 The answer is simple. If you are a man (it's not clear to me from your username if I'm talking with a man or a woman) does it really matter that your wife is that particular woman? Why can't there be any woman? Why do you need these type of division between women to expect the woman to be in a certain way to marry her?
If your Christ is your love, if He is your life, you are not in love by an abstract Christ but a real Person Who has different attributes. The Christ I'm in love with, loves His mother so much that we wants us to love Her as the mother of God; the Christ I'm in love with, wants us to consider His mother as our own; the Christ I'm in love with, is not afraid that my prayers to the saints somehow steal from His glory but He actually encourages us to have His saints praised because His love is humble and He wants everyone to have His glory; the Christ I'm in love with finds that women have a different purpose than men in His worship and that purpose doesn't include priesthood and I can go on. If Christ doesn't have one or more of these qualities then He is not the Christ I'm in love with. And if you say that these qualities doesn't matter then my question is: do you love Christ for Who He is or the idea which Christ represents?
@@maxh_music Do you know what "imposter syndrome" is? Let me help you: "the persistent inability to believe that one's success is deserved or has been legitimately achieved as a result of one's own efforts or skills.".
@@sfappetrupavelandrei I think it’s a fair use of the term. People don’t perfectly match the dictionary definition of every word they use lmao. But what she is doing, calling someone practically atheist for being Christian and not Catholic is nasty. My point was made
People of the Lie; a book that both saved and changed my life. My soul needed this conversation today. Thank you ladies.