Ocelot in Snake Eater: A complete goofball Ocelot in Phantom Pain: Implied to become a lot more serious and stoic Ocelot in Sons of Liberty and Guns of the Patriots: Has an excuse to go full goofball again
to be fair he has been shown to be a very quick learner. even in his chronologically first appearance in MGS3 he gets more and more skilled in combat *incredibly* quickly, and very quickly adopts techniques he's only just been introduced to.
Liquid wasn’t the first boss. He was final boss. Liquid Ocelot is not Ocelot merely pretending to be Liquid. He used hypnosis, psychotherapy, drugs and nanomachines to transplant Liquid’s personality onto his own. He was mental doppelgänger of Liquid. Big Boss explained that in the end. So Liquid Ocelot is not Ocelot
Ocelot is the truth hero in the serise. he belived in the cause so much that he allowed himself to be tormented but the physique of liquid. he was a true fallen hero. him and snake shared the role of puppets to a higher cause, the greater good or evil and in the end a hero fell. Fighting for a cause is honorable, but to lose yourself so that others can correct the past mistakes of men is pure nobility.
56:20 the moment those green bars appeared I said "Oh you wouldn't..." then realize the place is similar to the original "YOU ABSOLUTELY WOULDNT..." and then the original score from the ps1 appears and go "YOU ABSOLUTE BASTARDS YOU DID IT, RIGHT IN THE MEMORIES!" And then they make an MGS3 wink as well and go "Oh COME ON! now you are just spoiling us!"
1:02:49 Humorous on how the the timing of the lyrics match up with each hit from that part. *PUNCH* "Someday" *PUNCH* "You go" *PUNCH* "Through the rain"
you know youve done something right with the storytelling when you can make two old men punching each other to death the most compelling fight in a series containing cyborg ninjas, psychic powers, and giant nuclear mechs
Imagine fighting in a war for years numb to everything happening around you only to that numbness taken away and every emotion, trauma and regret hitting you at once
Plus, according to Big Boss, it was the FOXDIE Drebin injected Snake with that killed her. So it's her killer's pet monkey that comes in and ruins all the drama from her death
50:46 "Four years later, our dear brother - Solidus - sought to free us from the control of the Patriots' *memes* " Memes really are the DNA of the soul...
Revolver Ocelot is what I say "to become a hero, sometime someone need to be a villain" And interesting Revolver Ocelot somewhat mirror Lee Van Cleef actual personality behind the camera. In movies, he is known as the best (or badass) actor of villain but in reality, he is actually a really heartwarming person according to people who meet him in person
It took me years to realise that he's speaking with an English accent. That's Liquid's influence on him, instead of of Ocelot speaking with his voice, it's just his accent
42:50 You know the Mount Snakemore thing never made sense to me. Why would it have Old Snake on it? I would presume that ship would have taken a good few years to build. Perhaps they started during the Tanker mission in MGS2's time. Snake's aging came on rapidly sometime between the Plant Mission and the events of MGS4. Also shouldn't Big Bos be on the left since it's the highest figure? I donno. I just never liked it. Does it represent that the Snakes were The Patriot's highest achievement? Or is it just a Kojima troll?
@@keithklassen5320 This whole scene is a troll. Kojima dialed his quirky Japanese humor meter up to 11 here. All the cardboard box hiding, crocodile cap wearing, Playboy magazine placing of the whole MGS series literally culminates in this scene.
Nanomachines suppressed all soldiers emotions on the battlefield, so what Liquid did was turn off the nanomachines and made all soldiers feel all those emotions all at once (pain, suffering, guilt, terror, anger, fear, etc)
@james1 we're not saying it's an issue. We're saying that it's literally stated to be so by Big Boss himself. Ocelot hypnotized himself with psychotherapy which was enhanced with nanomachines. Nanomachines can do wonders in this series. And even then, during the fight with Ocelot, you gradually knock the LIQUID off of him, showing that he was never actually possessed. By phase 3 he's no longer wearing the persona of Liquid.
It’s some bullshit tbh. Originally it was brought up as a plot point in MGS2, Ocelot had Liquid’s forearm surgically transplanted onto him to replace the arm he had cut off in MGS1. Liquid was somehow able to start possessing Ocelot through his dead arm. This was too wacky though, even by Hideo Kojima’s standards, so it was retconned in MGS4. It’s explained in the last cutscene with Big Boss (even then in slightly vague terms), but basically Ocelot underwent Self-hypnosis and “nanomachine psychotherapy” to change his personality and convince himself he was Liquid to try fool the Patriots automatic AI System that was hunting Ocelot.The patriots basically didn’t take Liquid as seriously as a threat as they did Ocelot, so he could take some of the heat-off himself by pretending to be Liquid and therefore make it easier to arrange his plans to destroy the Patriots AI. Still pretty convoluted, but better than being possessed by a dead guy’s arm. To be fair, though the games plot and ending is rushed (due to development issues) MGSV expands on the idea of using hypnosis to try change a person’s personality into a doppelgänger of somebody else. As *spoiler* (for a five year old game anyway) Venom Snake turns out to just be a doppelgänger of a Big Boss.
@@StalinTheSaint being possessed isn't that wacky, especially when you look at psycho mantis and the sorrow. I think ocelot being legitimately controller by liquid is better then some "I was only pretending" bs
@@StalinTheSaint sounds like you didn’t understand the story, supernatural things in mgs isn’t new the sorrow & psycho mantis is a clear indication of this
TheSuperZeldaMan since ghosts legitimately do exist in the MGS world I still think a bit of Liquids spirit still has some influence on Ocelot. Of course the self hypnosis Ocelot did to himself is a biggie
Ocelot used psychotherapy and nanotech to create a copy of Liquid's personality inside his head, then grafted Liquid's arm onto himself, as part of an admittedly convoluted scheme to throw off the Patriots' AI.
Ocelot in Snake Eater: A complete goofball
Ocelot in Phantom Pain: Implied to become a lot more serious and stoic
Ocelot in Sons of Liberty and Guns of the Patriots: Has an excuse to go full goofball again
He was such a badass in MGS2
Ocelot in MGS1: cold, manipulative and calculating
that's why he's the goat
This guy was the first boss in the first solid game and somehow by the fourth game he is beating the main character up.
He was just getting warmed up. Then Gray Fox took his hand.
You think only the protagonist has the right of getting stronger and more experienced
Character development
to be fair he has been shown to be a very quick learner. even in his chronologically first appearance in MGS3 he gets more and more skilled in combat *incredibly* quickly, and very quickly adopts techniques he's only just been introduced to.
Liquid wasn’t the first boss. He was final boss. Liquid Ocelot is not Ocelot merely pretending to be Liquid. He used hypnosis, psychotherapy, drugs and nanomachines to transplant Liquid’s personality onto his own. He was mental doppelgänger of Liquid. Big Boss explained that in the end. So Liquid Ocelot is not Ocelot
Ocelot is the truth hero in the serise. he belived in the cause so much that he allowed himself to be tormented but the physique of liquid. he was a true fallen hero. him and snake shared the role of puppets to a higher cause, the greater good or evil and in the end a hero fell.
Fighting for a cause is honorable, but to lose yourself so that others can correct the past mistakes of men is pure nobility.
Here here
Nope he's a villain
The dude is an evil fuck that took out a chunk of NYC, loved killing, and was in it for himself. Fuck him
“Even cats love to play as snakes”
a hero? nah, he was more than that; heros a serious stretch
24:05 Ocelot's Finger Gun.
Finger Gun of the Patriots
💥👈
15:18 you can hear snake almost say "Fuck"
56:20 the moment those green bars appeared I said "Oh you wouldn't..." then realize the place is similar to the original "YOU ABSOLUTELY WOULDNT..." and then the original score from the ps1 appears and go "YOU ABSOLUTE BASTARDS YOU DID IT, RIGHT IN THE MEMORIES!" And then they make an MGS3 wink as well and go "Oh COME ON! now you are just spoiling us!"
you didnt say all that lil bro keep it real
“Omg so wholesome 100 chungus take my updoot kind sir” ass comment
42:20 to 42:40 is Solid Snake vs Liquid in the MGS franchise in a nutshell.
1:02:49
Humorous on how the the timing of the lyrics match up with each hit from that part.
*PUNCH*
"Someday"
*PUNCH*
"You go"
*PUNCH*
"Through the rain"
1:01:59 was a pretty awesome sync iswell
41:45 - 42:02
Lmao what a troll ocelot was
42:36
I MEAN LOOK AT HIM XDDD
😂😂😂
Like how the way he's laughing.😂
you know youve done something right with the storytelling when you can make two old men punching each other to death the most compelling fight in a series containing cyborg ninjas, psychic powers, and giant nuclear mechs
It’s unfortunate that this only hit ps3
Even without anything else game Is close to current gen
@@jaredpaynter4140 absolutely. I’ve played games on the ps4 that look worse than mgs lol
No it's not.
Might hit ps5 later on mgs master collection volume 2.
@@ryancentnarowicz might. 😒
Imagine fighting in a war for years numb to everything happening around you only to that numbness taken away and every emotion, trauma and regret hitting you at once
Only an hour? That's how you know he left an impact on this game
36:10
Eva
A og series character dies and then literally 5 seconds later
Monkey shows up lmao
Plus, according to Big Boss, it was the FOXDIE Drebin injected Snake with that killed her. So it's her killer's pet monkey that comes in and ruins all the drama from her death
Classic MGS4
well, it's like the song says: some days you go through the rain, and some days you feed on a tree frog
42:36 The Man Who Trolled the World 🤣
50:46 "Four years later, our dear brother - Solidus - sought to free us from the control of the Patriots' *memes* "
Memes really are the DNA of the soul...
51:19 free from konami
38:07 It's Not Over! Not Yet.
Holy shadow Moses, you get to pilot metal gear rex?! That's metal AF. Wish I would have played mgs4.
Revolver Ocelot is what I say "to become a hero, sometime someone need to be a villain"
And interesting Revolver Ocelot somewhat mirror Lee Van Cleef actual personality behind the camera. In movies, he is known as the best (or badass) actor of villain but in reality, he is actually a really heartwarming person according to people who meet him in person
It took me years to realise that he's speaking with an English accent. That's Liquid's influence on him, instead of of Ocelot speaking with his voice, it's just his accent
42:50 You know the Mount Snakemore thing never made sense to me. Why would it have Old Snake on it? I would presume that ship would have taken a good few years to build. Perhaps they started during the Tanker mission in MGS2's time. Snake's aging came on rapidly sometime between the Plant Mission and the events of MGS4. Also shouldn't Big Bos be on the left since it's the highest figure? I donno. I just never liked it. Does it represent that the Snakes were The Patriot's highest achievement? Or is it just a Kojima troll?
Trolling all the way.
@@keithklassen5320 This whole scene is a troll. Kojima dialed his quirky Japanese humor meter up to 11 here. All the cardboard box hiding, crocodile cap wearing, Playboy magazine placing of the whole MGS series literally culminates in this scene.
His face is based on his Metal Gear 2 appearance, which is from where he was frozen.
Ur reading too much into it
The answers are pretty simple
@@renzoalagon And they are?
Only in four scenes, but he steals the show.
2:56 "Activate it." … geoengineering and high frequency electromagnetism.
when you finally found out what the 5G network really does it's too late.
Crazy. Did the frequencies have an effect on the nanomachines?
And when they found what they put to people in those covid vaccines it’s gonna be late too
@@jrbserious87 it is already happening ... ...
Is it normal that I like this liquid ocelot better than any other
Ocelot, the real snake.
Revolver Ocelot and Liquid Snake becomes one as Liquid Ocelot
4:11 Oh god. Is Liquid making everyone in this scene get headaches to death or something? (I don’t play MGS that often.)
Nanomachines suppressed all soldiers emotions on the battlefield, so what Liquid did was turn off the nanomachines and made all soldiers feel all those emotions all at once (pain, suffering, guilt, terror, anger, fear, etc)
Guns of La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo
1:01:59 was synced so perfectly with the music
Ocelot was acting as Liquid since MGS 2, he wasn't possessed
Ocelot is possessed.
@@BigD1983 no he wasn’t, he used Self-Hypnosis and Nanomachines to act like Liquid
@james1 we're not saying it's an issue. We're saying that it's literally stated to be so by Big Boss himself. Ocelot hypnotized himself with psychotherapy which was enhanced with nanomachines. Nanomachines can do wonders in this series. And even then, during the fight with Ocelot, you gradually knock the LIQUID off of him, showing that he was never actually possessed. By phase 3 he's no longer wearing the persona of Liquid.
@DepressionIsJustAWord. Snake punches and punches him, then comes out of it.
He was acting in mgs4. In mgs2, he was not.
46:58 Raiden fucking dies but refuses to let the audience forget about his massive hog
Revolver Ocelot .... bad ass !
I wonder what Liquid did with the Marines’s Metal Gear RAY he stole and got away with it again
LIQUID!
Snek!
Brother! It's been too long!!
Damn snake had it rough
29:51 Anyone recognize that pistol Liquid Ocelot uses to shoot at the body? It's not a revolver, I guess to emphasize that it's Liquid...
It's the Thor 45.70 gun, you can use a code to unlock it.
He beat the Liquid out of Ocelot.
Liquid! stop!
50:38 Twin Snakes IS canon
So is Portable Ops 50:26
Did that CQC between Snake & Ocelot all happen before the cigar hit the floor? So it was all in the blink of an eye?
How did Liquid survive FOXDIE and got inside Ocelot?!
It’s some bullshit tbh. Originally it was brought up as a plot point in MGS2, Ocelot had Liquid’s forearm surgically transplanted onto him to replace the arm he had cut off in MGS1. Liquid was somehow able to start possessing Ocelot through his dead arm. This was too wacky though, even by Hideo Kojima’s standards, so it was retconned in MGS4. It’s explained in the last cutscene with Big Boss (even then in slightly vague terms), but basically Ocelot underwent Self-hypnosis and “nanomachine psychotherapy” to change his personality and convince himself he was Liquid to try fool the Patriots automatic AI System that was hunting Ocelot.The patriots basically didn’t take Liquid as seriously as a threat as they did Ocelot, so he could take some of the heat-off himself by pretending to be Liquid and therefore make it easier to arrange his plans to destroy the Patriots AI.
Still pretty convoluted, but better than being possessed by a dead guy’s arm. To be fair, though the games plot and ending is rushed (due to development issues) MGSV expands on the idea of using hypnosis to try change a person’s personality into a doppelgänger of somebody else. As *spoiler* (for a five year old game anyway) Venom Snake turns out to just be a doppelgänger of a Big Boss.
@@StalinTheSaint I know mgsv is old but never even played it lol
@@thamostgangsta12
It's pretty good time killer and the story cutscenes man are something else!
@@StalinTheSaint being possessed isn't that wacky, especially when you look at psycho mantis and the sorrow. I think ocelot being legitimately controller by liquid is better then some "I was only pretending" bs
@@StalinTheSaint sounds like you didn’t understand the story, supernatural things in mgs isn’t new the sorrow & psycho mantis is a clear indication of this
are liquid and ocelot the same person in this game? just like the boss is peace walker
Without spoiling too much, it’s Ocelot’s body with Liquid’s persona implanted on his mind
TheSuperZeldaMan since ghosts legitimately do exist in the MGS world I still think a bit of Liquids spirit still has some influence on Ocelot. Of course the self hypnosis Ocelot did to himself is a biggie
You should play this game :)
It's ocelot acting like liquid
Ocelot used psychotherapy and nanotech to create a copy of Liquid's personality inside his head, then grafted Liquid's arm onto himself, as part of an admittedly convoluted scheme to throw off the Patriots' AI.
He's pretty spry for an old snake
Bang!
*Pain noises*
1:00:30
1:01:36-1:01:53
They really are twins
+Ocelot and Naked snake are brothers.
@@Venom-Snake1yeah, big boss' phantom
This game is too funny🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Is because of Liquid's laugh?
No that was a nine
Liquid Sun...
1:07:16 what if i just kms lol
Why do characters have names like Liquid and Solid in this game ?
They have a name actually :). Liquid (Eli) and Solid (David). They are both clones of big boss.
But this liquid is different. The true liquid is already dead. This is ocelot but his mind is liquid (Eli)
@@H1ghscor3 can you elaborate in depth?
@@Silver-Lyfe what part? Hahaha I'll do my best to answer you hahaha
Those are their Codenames, solid snake and liquid snake
Logan
Gotta love those 15fps action scenes
His face kinda reminds me of niko bellic (sorry off topic)
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38:05
Snake eater
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