What is Churches of God General Conference? (CGGC)
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- The Churches of God General Conference is the original denomination to use the “Church of God” title, and they are still around. This video discusses their origin and beliefs.
00:00 History of CGGC and John Winebrenner
02:08 John Winebrenner’s beliefs on the Church of God
03:05 Church authority and view on creeds
04:13 Core theological beliefs
04:23 Ordinances (Baptism, Lord’s Supper, Feet Washing)
06:28 Scripture
06:44 Creation, Human Sinfulness
07:37 Salvation
08:16 View of Reformed Theology
08:53 Sanctification
09:41 Holy Spirit Baptism
10:00 Spiritual Gifts & View of Charismatics
11:05 Eschatology
12:23 Sexuality, Marriage & Divorce
13:41 Life Issues
14:03 Worship Style
14:24 Alcohol
15:41 Tithing
15:52 War & Military Service
16:38 Gambling
16:48 Church Polity
17:26 Women in Ministry
17:47 Seminary, Statistics
18:06 Other “Churches of God”
I really like how Winebrenner started with rejecting denominations and professions of belief, then proceeds to to make a denomination with a profession of faith.
The fact their statement of belief is called "we believe" which also happens to be the first words of the Nicene Creed
They claim to have no creed but the Bible, but then have a publication which in Latin would be called "Creedo"
We still take a stand against creeds meaning we do not hold them equal to scripture. It is a bit of an irony that we call our doctrinal statement “We Believe” which means creed. Even so we do not hold these written statements by Winebrenner or others more recently as authority or infallible, they simply help us summarize and systematize what we hold as important.
@@davidwilliams9371 but then what differentiates this from any other protestant denomination that holds to sola scriputra but then has a statement of belief that explains what the group believes the Bible teaches?
true lol
@@davidwilliams9371 just like any of the historic creeds and confessions.
Thanks for a very fair and substantive introduction to the denomination I serve. You covered our founding briefly but well. Winebrenner did not want to leave the German Reformed denomination. He sought to bring reform and sought reconciliation and restoration. He was opposed to schisms, but as evident he did form another denomination only after a separation of several years and other like minded pastors wanted to form together so they could accomplish together what they could not do individually. We do ordain women as ministers and have done so since 1858. Our views on speaking in tongues has softened slightly since 1975, no formal writing has been done on the topic since then.
If you follow Route 30 from Lancaster PA to Iowa you will travel within a 100 miles of most of our congregations in America. In the past 20 years we have started many mission works in other areas than you listed.
Again thanks for a well done introduction to the Churches of God General Conference (CGGC) Dave Williams Interim Executive Director of the Eastern Region of the CGGC
Thank you for your comment, I'm glad to hear from you!
Love your channel man. You found a cool niche lane that is underappreciated.
I appreciate that!
Sounds pretty sane to me. I'm especially respectful with the idea that sometimes they say "Look, we don't know, and it's not necessary to salvation." If only we were all so charitable. Thanks.
Ive had such a good time binging this channel
Thank you, Ryan!
Thanks for a very clear, interesting, and accurate presentation on this denomination.
Oooohhh my GOOODNEESS!!!! It's all so rational and common sense!!! I like this denomination (that's supposedly not a denomination.)
This breaks my heart. My father grew up in Harrisburg. He died an atheist and I'm crushed by that fact. He was an altar boy in the Catholic church. I wonder if he had attended this church instead, might he have remained a believer all his life.
I was also an altar boy in a Catholic church when I was a boy, but no longer attend with the Catholics.
I couldn't imagine rejecting God though.
I can't even imagine anybody suggesting a contrary doctrine that explained the origin of the universe, the balance and magnitude of the cosmos and balance of quanta, and explained things like how every culture seems to have spiritual beliefs, every man has faith in _something,_ and events inexplicable through materially consistent terms tend to occur from time to time.
Having another denomination nearby may have helped your father, or not, but I will never understand the spiritual apathy or else misotheism it would require to espouse atheism.
I went to the church of god for a while when i was a kid.
they seem pretty solid. Can't say i disagree with what they believe
Would you be able to make a video giving a detailed overview of the similarities and differences between the Catholic and Orthodox church; or even perhaps including some Protestant christian denominations. They seem rather similar but also have some clear differences that would be good to get a overlook on.
He’s made that video
he talked about the differences from a historical perspective in this video
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@@ricardogomez-paz8581yes I have seen the video regarding Eastern and Western Christianity which I thought was very informative but I was hoping for something that talked more to the similarities between them as compared to other Protestant denominations or just a comprehensive view of the largest divisions in the Christian View (Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant)
@@ChrisPro930 I understand that, but seeing how there are so many denominations you’ll have to be a bit more specific
yes
Is 'Grace International' a denomination? I went to 2 conferences in Oceanside. A lot of American politics preached.
I wonder if this is the earliest denomination to introduce feet washing as a formal sacrament / ordinance
Are we witnessing a revival in Kentucky?
I became a Christian in a Church of God, Anderson IN church, my in-laws live near the headquarters of Church of God, Cleveland TN. Is the one described here one of these?
No. Church of God Anderson split off, and Chuch of God Cleveland is an unrelated Pentecostal church
So is there a difference between the Church of God General Conference (COGGC) and the Churches of God General Conference (CGGC)?
Yes, they are extremely different. Unfortunate name similarities, though!
The difference is: "es".
The Church of God General Conference usually has (Winebrenner) in it’s name when being discussed to differentiate it
And there's the General conference of the church of God seventh day headquartered in Denver Colorado.
I grew up in this denomination. And now I’m Greek Orthodox
Quite the move.
@@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts yeah 😂. I grew up in the Churches of God General Conference and was heavily involved with Fellowship of Christian Athletes. Around 2019, I realized that that most evangelical Protestant churches were Contemporary Christian Music concerts and a motivational speaker. Stopped going to church until 2021. My friends started becoming Orthodox in late 2020/2021. Leaned the history of the Church then I decided to start going. I decided I was at home and I am at every service I can make
@@MichaelTheophilus906 Δόξα Πατρὶ καὶ Υἱῷ καὶ Ἁγίῳ Πνεύματι. Καὶ νῦν καὶ ἀεί, καὶ εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας τῶν αἰώνων. Ἀμήν. Not really sure what you mean with those verses. You seem to just be spouting random verses and thinking someone will believe you. In becoming Orthodox, I now have a better understanding of the Trinity. I work to give up my pride in thinking that my interpretation of the Bible is correct. I know that God has not left the Original Church and caused them to fall into error. And I continue to work on living out Matthew 25 more than I ever did as a Protestant. May the Holy Spirit guide you towards the Truth. Also I have added all the Bible verses so anyone can easily read them.
“Hear, O Israel: The Lord is our God, the Lord alone. You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might. Keep these words that I am commanding you today in your heart.
(Deuteronomy 6:4-6 NRSVUE)
One of the scribes came and heard them debating. Knowing that Jesus had answered them well, he asked him, “Which commandment is the greatest of all?” Jesus answered him, “The greatest is, ‘Hear, Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one: you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.’ This is the first commandment. And the second is likewise, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.” The scribe said to him, “It is well, teacher, that you have said truly that he is one, and there is none other but he, (Mark 12:28-32, EOB)
This is eternal life: that they should know you, the only true God, and him whom you have sent, Jesus Christ. (John 17:3, EOB)
Jesus said to her, “Do not hold me, for I have not yet ascended to my Father. But go to my brethren and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’” (John 20:17, EOB)
so that with one accord, you may with one mouth glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. (Romans 15:6, EOB)
to the only wise God, through Jesus Christ, to whom be the glory forever! Amen. (Romans 16:27 NRSVUE)
yet, to us, there is one God the Father, from whom are all things; and we [are] for him; and one Lord Jesus Christ through whom are all things, and we live through him. (1 Corinthians 8:6, EOB)
The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, he who is blessed unto the ages, knows that I do not lie. (2 Corinthians 11:31, EOB)
There is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, (1 Timothy 2:5, EOB)
Wake up and strengthen the things which remain, which were about to die, for I have not found any of your works perfected before my God. (Revelation 3:2, EOB)
The one who overcomes, I will make a pillar in the sanctuary of my God, from which he shall never be removed. On such a person I will write the Name of my God, the name of the city of my God which is the new Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from my God, and [I will write] my own new Name. (Revelation 3:12, EOB)
Which Church of God is this today?
The Church of God, General Conference is headquartered in Findlay Ohio.
CGGC headquartered in Findlay Ohio. The denomination also started Findlay College which is not the University of Findlay.
All these different denominations of Christians argue who is the one true church and seem not to like one another but if God is love then wouldn't he just appreciate the effort people go though and not be hung up on the details? Unless of course he is vengeful and jealous .
Hates denominations - starts a denomination; hates creeds - writes a creed; holds the Bible as the only authority - recognises that limits have to be set on interpretation. As a Catholic, it's agony to watch the same mistakes made again and again, motivated by faith and devout hope, but only ever causing the further splintering of the Church. Erasmus wrote to Martin Luther on many occasions telling him that he should never give up on resolving his issues within the Church; most were dealt with as soon as Trent, but the damage was done, and Our Lord still bleeds.
The host is thoughtful and charitable, but this is a protestant channel, so you might not find much sympathy for that sentiment here. 🙂
I am not religious, but I have read a fair number of the early Christians and I have a growing interesting in Catholicism. The only problem is that my local Catholic church is not very liturgically strict and is very liberal with respect to the church's teachings. I don't know if I can take the church seriously if the Catholic parishioners don't.
One day I may join you in your conviction, but not today.
Martin Luther wanted to reform the Church and ended up being excommunicated. At least Martin Lither acknoledges the Catholic Church and other denominations that formed over time.
@courtneypitcher this channel isn't Protestant but any means. Most of the base contains all denominations. If you are referring to Joshua being Independent Baptist, then yes. He is a Protestant but he presents his videos with little to zero impartiality.
@@marshimeak1972
Luther was more than just excommunicated. The papacy put a death penalty on his head.
That was historically the normal catholic way of dealing with any opposition.
My question to all catholics is simply, when did Jesus or any apostle give the authority to anyone, to torture and murder people', especially Christians??
Roman catholics only removed the death penalty in 1969.
@As Tutik I wish we have the power the protestant tells us that we have lmao
Is there a church that believes the Holy Spirit is an angel, Michael?
The commandments are to be observed? (Those written in our heart and not stone? 10?)
Some Seventh Day Adventists might once have, or some spin off Adventist groups might, but I think what you get there may be the theory that Jesus is the Archangel
They just sound like baptists with footwashing lol
Not all Baptists do foot-washing he does have a video that explains which one does.
They are
@@k.l.barnes1529Wait. Some Baptists do foot washing?
This denomination ordains women pastors which a lot of baptist churches don't. There are differences in salvation doctrine. COG believes salvation can be lost whereas Baptists believe once saved always saved.
@@undefined6251 this is the Church of God General Conference (Winebrenner). My parents church used to be a part of this denomination (within the past year) and last I knew that didn’t allow women pastors
Since the grave is hell he was correct. 100% were in hell just like everyone who is dead.
There seems to be a theologic paradox. If it is assumed that God did not intend for Adam and Eve to choose as they did, why should there be a trinity ,i.e. a trinity is needed because there is a fall.
It is my belief that the Son was always the person of the Trinity through whom we related to the Godhead, even before the fall.
The choice of the Son to be the sacrifice was not accidental or ad hoc. It was foreordained before the foundation of the world. Though God did not intend the fall, he did foreordain the plan of salvation.
Wait. There shouldn’t be any causality for God. If something causes God to have certain properties would not consider him a god therefore. He can’t be subject to change or else He himself wouldn’t be god.
Just another Baptist church.
They are
Not really. COG has more of an Arminien view of salvation whereas Baptists have a Calvinistic view of salvation.
more like anabaptist
He was correct. The church of God was started with Abraham and grace was merited, denominations only seek to be subject to the world by unmerited grace.
The NT has the truth which is not so-called Christianity, as Romans 10:9 is only half the truth, and Romans 10:10 completes the truth.
I have a Ytube video series called 'Myths in so-called Christianity', which exposes Myths in a religious set of cults that are not part of the church of God inherited by Jesus.