Shashi Tharoor & Swapan Dasgupta Exclusive | Decoding What Modi Mandate Tells Us |
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- Congress MP Shashi Tharoor and BJP MP Swapan Dasgupta shared their ideas of Hindutva, nationalism authoritarianism and dynasty while speaking at the India Today Conclave 2019.
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There he goes. Mr. Dasgupta. Bengali shines everywhere ❤️
Best opponent speaker against Mr Tharoor so far.
Tharror is not best
@@debasisbandopadhyay1345 where did I mention that? FYI: it's Tharoor.
@@debasisbandopadhyay1345 man tharoor not a politician. He was head of operations in many foreign companies and countries. That's why he is more mature
@@keralanaturelover196
You think so ! I m seeing like nonsense
@@keralanaturelover196 only in the UN as he was recruited by it in his youth and he stayed these all his life.
This is what called an intellectual debate, wished Rajdeep should have sit on the audience
Why jealous to anchor?
@@srimanm1373 he is pseudo liberal anchor with Anti-BJP views
An Anchor should be Neutral but he is not
Yeah really, I wish that Kanwal should have been here.
Haha, so true
@@MrAnonymous3333 see all other media house. They are fully paid.
Before this I thought only Shashi Tharoor speaks English so intricate and complicated but Swapan Dasgupta...Man !!
Dipak Mishra is better, at least in terms of writing.
He once wrote;
_This batch of writ petitions preferred under Article 32 of the Constitution of India exposits cavil in its quintessential conceptuality and percipient discord between venerated and exalted right of freedom of speech and expression of an individual, exploring manifold and multilayered, limitless, unbounded and unfettered spectrums and the controls, restrictions and constrictions, under the assumed power of 'reasonableness' ingrained in the statutory provisions relating to criminal law to reviver and uphold one's reputation._
@@SamvedIyer WTF, I don't know English 😱😱😱
@@RockySince-ks9nc XD
Swapan Dasgupta by far outsmarts Mr. Tharoor 😊
Samved Iyer lovely
I always see Hindu leaders defend Muslim’s situation in India.. never never I saw this kind of munch or meeting ‘far’ Hindus..
Zara dekhiye-We must stop this hate mongering by upper caste Hindus. We must bring about Ambedkar’s and Gandhiji’s freedom struggle 2.0 with some variant of NYAY and rule of law and true constitutional democracy. Supreme Court said demolition was illegal and wrong. I have read 1045 page ruling. However, they were afraid bloodthirsty RSS goons who would go around killing as they did in Feb in Delhi. My Dad was a freedom fighter and a Pol Sc Professor. He passed away at age 96 in March 2020. We lost everything in partition. My grandfather was killed. But we were brought up secular. My parents were so proud of independence throughout their lives. This vengeful, entitled group of Hindus is really hard to stomach.
Please give 10-30 minutes of your time. Professor Shanti Swarup, 96, teaches Secularism 101... Various good people are muddying the waters about secularism. In my humble view, conceptually and in very simple terms, secularism was something consciously adopted and accepted by people who were tired of civil war and killing each other. It is why Gandhi, Nehru, Patel, Ambedkar, Maulana Azad pursued it for India even if it was formally added into the constitution later. It is the same with the concept of democracy, and the concepts of liberty, fraternity, equality. The whole idea of a constitution. Secularism was never something, anywhere in the world, that people developed or accepted spontaneously. People accepted it because they were tired of hate and wanted to improve their lives and live in peace. People various religions practice their religions privately. In a new democracy, secularism is supposed to be superimposed on various religious groups so they can live together peacefully within one territory and pursue other objectives such as healthcare, food, education, competing with other powers like China. Why are people in India going down the rabid path of looking for cultural causes of the failure of secularism--this is only going to muddy the water further so we make things worse, not better. We have to create a common vision for India together. Yes, reversing Shah Bano judgment was a big mistake for which we have been paying a heavy, heavy price. But we need to move on towards a more perfect union. This why USA, UK, Australia, etc have pursued secularism and they are also trying to move towards a more perfect union. It is why India chose secularism and we must continue to pursue a more perfect union. It is the crux of the point that my father, Professor Shanti Swarup, was covering in his videos here. Please do give a few minutes of your time to review the issue of secularism, specifically as discussed in the videos. Thank you. Dhanyawad. Shukriya, bahut meherbani. ~ Smita Swarup th-cam.com/video/PRR9EPNUUJw/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/OMjEzJ1JgZ0/w-d-xo.html
Coz they have no balls to give away the votes than their civilization
Best English speaking course available on TH-cam .
@A S Teer not bowing down but knowing the fact that English is still the international language, we just try to learn it more and more.
Yet, I highly doubt any of them could beat former CJI Dipak Mishra.
Here is an extract from a judgement he once wrote:
_This batch of writ petitions preferred under Article 32 of the Constitution of India exposits cavil in its quintessential conceptuality and percipient discord between venerated and exalted right of freedom of speech and expression of an individual, exploring manifold and multilayered, limitless, unbounded and unfettered spectrums and the controls, restrictions and constrictions, under the assumed power of 'reasonableness' ingrained in the statutory provisions relating to criminal law to reviver and uphold one's reputation._
Samved Iyer diclaimer..! an extreme use of dictionary recommended.🤩🤣😇👌👌👌👌
@@celestialneuron9062 True.
A S Teer: Ridiculous, what has a Hindu got to do with a language. If you are weak in English, go and learn the language ; it will give you a better chance to fight in this world.
I am really amazed with Dasgupta and Tharur, they are real real capable to lead India. Very good knowledge, deep study and ground reality. Both can be eligible to lead our foreign affairs and commerce ministry.
They are really admirable.
Shashi Tharoor had more logical argument with facts than Swapan das theoritical arguments
@Donnie Darko you seem to try and beat around the bush. Shashi tharoors arguments made more sense relating to the events happening in India now like more communalized as the PM himself has prolonged silence after such Lynchings which is first time it's even happened in India, even Vajpayee used to condemn Communal incidents immediately despite being from same party.
It looks like you need to see listen both speakers properly to know what I mean now.
@Donnie Darko you are either really stupid Or you trying to prove to me that Bjp/Rss and Modi don't have any communal agenda- even to suggest the latter is really foolish of you to do that because everyone knows including Modi supporters that they want to implement Hindutva rashtra. Rss is anti Muslim clearly and continously spread hate, lies and violence against Muslims. It's like you telling me Nazis were not bad and they didn't promote hatred loll...Human rights international, Amnesty gave declared Rss is Radical Hindu organization who doesn't believe in equal rights and status of Minorities in India. So don't try to fool me here and you get some basic logic in your brain.
Modi is a big actor, we know very well he allowed the Riots in 2002 to happen for 3 days because it was a part of polarization campaign of Bjp/Rss politics...Curse of God Almighty is on the Murderers and terrorists irrespective of their religion they claim to follow because no religion allows killing of Innocents
Rocket man o
All u hear is english.....there much better philosophies from indian authors, you will know ur nation better. I agree that they are great academics but I dont think they are leaders. They are mostly support staff one of Indian view vs western view.
Proud of Mr. Swapan Dasgupta as he leaving behind his safe family business , which is very close to our locality.
Rajdeep's moderation is equal to filth!!
On the contrary, this is an example of excellent moderation. He gave each person enough chance to respond, and asked them questions that brought forth credible responses
Bengali VS Malayali... what more do you need
Hahaah.... Education
rajasthan
Saurav Paul why is everything a race war to Indians like god damn y’all still Indians
@@amithr8487 lol
@@robyshaji3445 He's trying to bring in the intellectual perspective here, not of race.
Mr. Dasgupta, well spoken, we need to hear more from you... good to hear shashi Tharoor as usual and a great match or better
Swapan Dasgupta!!
See j sai Deepak
What is the point in being an intellectual? congress was in power most of the time, what did his and like of his did for uplifting of poor people of India all this year's? No will power only bootlicking was this type of people's full-time job.to hell with this type of intellectual people. Tell him to come up with another word which has no reverence for poor people .
Shashi tharoor is just good English speaker and that's it.
@@swapnilchaudhari9545 u r north indian unqualified ias. Man sashi tharoor schooling kerala higher education mumbai and worked in many foreign companies in high positions and expert in International laws and reached UN high post. Other is a narrow minded indian politician who know only Hinduism and not able to prove his ability in work. Bye
@@keralanaturelover196 you showed your upbringing,dumbness,hinduphobia and racism in one comment.
Thank god I am not like you.
36:00 swapan das caught rajdeep red handed there
Ufff Dasgupta ❤️ from westbengal
We want to watch Dr. Subramyanian Swamy Vs Dr. Shashi Tharoor
Tharoor would run away.
No Bro, Dr. Swamy v/s Amartya Sen
Swamy is only fit to b a Bollywood villain where he can compete with Danny. D. He is no valid for contemporary where humanity matters more.
Tharoor would need diapers
Swamy is a joke... Period
To be honest, as a BJP supporter, most Indians want liberal laws . However, we also want our culture to be preserved, nurtured and showcased. At the present and in the present , Hindu culture has been demonized everywhere in media , in academics ,etc. These things need to change and India need to own up to its culture. It doesn't mean we want other cultures to be removed. The more the merrier .
They won't understand that. That would be giving away the grounds which they so dearly hold. A liberal proud Hindu who cherishes his cultural and wants to be liberal which is in a way part and parcel of Hindu ethos, would be a bad vote bank.
Language is central to culture. And the languages of India cannot survive with the current political framework.
Yes some north indian woman dance in tamil film with two piece.which tamils hate most.
@@krgdeepa2575 is this an attempt to trigger some north Indians or what
Hit the nail on its head !! Well written brother 👍
To see Shashi Tharoor truly desperately search for words and to see Sardesai attempting to sway the debate to his fullest capabilities all while Swapan Dasgupta calmly addressed each and every one of the points raised so articulately with germane analogies was truly quite enjoyable and enlightening !
True!
I didn’t hear Shashi struggling at all.
Seems you're a pro Hindutva, how preposterous!
@@jairajsougaijam No. Not at all.
Neither have I seen Shashi struggle a bit. But again you see what you are brain washed to see as Modi has done with the Bakhts
Swapan da on fire🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Why haven't I heard much of Mr. Dasgupta. Nice to listen to him as well.
Because often there were interruptions from not only Dr. Tharoor but also from the anchor Rajdeep when Dasgupta was making a point
@@amitabhasengupta8781 he is saying that why didn't he know das Gupta before
Bcz that's the sad reality of left media. Intellects are only those who sync with their agenda.
Dasgupta on other hand, from my view, os a legit intellectual, to debate with and learn from 🤗
I agree with Dr Swapan Dasgupta.. very well explained..
LOLLL! Agree with all the lies, do you?
@@nandakishoren8566 😂😂 lies really atleast have some spine see hypocrisy of these congress man ?
@@Adityasingh-vz3jq Although I am not a Congress man, I would be glad to be called one than being a member of the Bigoted Joke Party.
@@swaroopnagraj6169 believe in all the lies spread by your dear Bigoted Joke Party's leadership.
@@swaroopnagraj6169 A foul odor of Chinese slavery is coming from the 'left' side mostly found in an illogical 'Fuckunist'😂😂 So better to press the 👃 and disengage from argument😅😂🤣
K
I like Das Gupta s way of discussion. Person opinion.good end .
Swapan das....great speaker...
BJP mouth piece.
It's Dasgupta
Zara dekhiye-We must stop this hate mongering by upper caste Hindus. We must bring about Ambedkar’s and Gandhiji’s freedom struggle 2.0 with some variant of NYAY and rule of law and true constitutional democracy. Supreme Court said demolition was illegal and wrong. I have read 1045 page ruling. However, they were afraid bloodthirsty RSS goons who would go around killing as they did in Feb in Delhi. My Dad was a freedom fighter and a Pol Sc Professor. He passed away at age 96 in March 2020. We lost everything in partition. My grandfather was killed. But we were brought up secular. My parents were so proud of independence throughout their lives. This vengeful, entitled group of Hindus is really hard to stomach.
Please give 10-30 minutes of your time. Professor Shanti Swarup, 96, teaches Secularism 101... Various good people are muddying the waters about secularism. In my humble view, conceptually and in very simple terms, secularism was something consciously adopted and accepted by people who were tired of civil war and killing each other. It is why Gandhi, Nehru, Patel, Ambedkar, Maulana Azad pursued it for India even if it was formally added into the constitution later. It is the same with the concept of democracy, and the concepts of liberty, fraternity, equality. The whole idea of a constitution. Secularism was never something, anywhere in the world, that people developed or accepted spontaneously. People accepted it because they were tired of hate and wanted to improve their lives and live in peace. People various religions practice their religions privately. In a new democracy, secularism is supposed to be superimposed on various religious groups so they can live together peacefully within one territory and pursue other objectives such as healthcare, food, education, competing with other powers like China. Why are people in India going down the rabid path of looking for cultural causes of the failure of secularism--this is only going to muddy the water further so we make things worse, not better. We have to create a common vision for India together. Yes, reversing Shah Bano judgment was a big mistake for which we have been paying a heavy, heavy price. But we need to move on towards a more perfect union. This why USA, UK, Australia, etc have pursued secularism and they are also trying to move towards a more perfect union. It is why India chose secularism and we must continue to pursue a more perfect union. It is the crux of the point that my father, Professor Shanti Swarup, was covering in his videos here. Please do give a few minutes of your time to review the issue of secularism, specifically as discussed in the videos. Thank you. Dhanyawad. Shukriya, bahut meherbani. ~ Smita Swarup th-cam.com/video/PRR9EPNUUJw/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/OMjEzJ1JgZ0/w-d-xo.html
@@yj9032 Better than Khangress mouthpiece Tharur
@@yj9032 Here comes an triggered Pappu chamcha 😂🤣
Servent of Sonia madam who is already on bail for corruption 😂
Dasgupta is a true Bengali...at last...."ye Subhash Bose ki mitti hai yaha kayar payda Nahi Hote"
🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@debjitmishra4819 agar mai kal England rehne Gaya to aap mere bacho ko kya British boloenge.....Subhash Bose was a Bengali kulin kayastha of the same caste as me ....so please and I wonder why odias claim everything .....
Subhash babu is true hero of independent india not these nehrus
@@debjitmishra4819 born on Odissa means Bose became an Odia. Dude you need medication. You are in a serious trouble. Consult a doctor immediately..
@ Bhargav Ghosh : This is how the political profligates turn the ignorant but imperious people to their bhaktas. And after being bhaktas they go beyond any logic or reasonings instead they turn themselves to intolerant insanes.The once brainless bhaktas of Assam started crying for assistance after final NRC was out.But these profligates were enjoying elsewhere.....
Glad to hear at least taroor saying narasimha rao did a great job.. remember, after his demise, his body was not allowed to b in delhi..
Swapan das ji appreciable answers
I think Mr. Dasgupta is going to be the CM of Bengal...❤️
I wish it could be.
But Bengal lost herself in the process and this scathing scar would be irreparable, I feel.
Pity, Bengal !
@@tirthatarafdar5727 jitna ghuskhor bengal me ha sayad pura india me nahi ha
Respect for Swapan jee!! Awsm talks
Zara dekhiye-We must stop this hate mongering by upper caste Hindus. We must bring about Ambedkar’s and Gandhiji’s freedom struggle 2.0 with some variant of NYAY and rule of law and true constitutional democracy. Supreme Court said demolition was illegal and wrong. I have read 1045 page ruling. However, they were afraid bloodthirsty RSS goons who would go around killing as they did in Feb in Delhi. My Dad was a freedom fighter and a Pol Sc Professor. He passed away at age 96 in March 2020. We lost everything in partition. My grandfather was killed. But we were brought up secular. My parents were so proud of independence throughout their lives. This vengeful, entitled group of Hindus is really hard to stomach.
Please give 10-30 minutes of your time. Professor Shanti Swarup, 96, teaches Secularism 101... Various good people are muddying the waters about secularism. In my humble view, conceptually and in very simple terms, secularism was something consciously adopted and accepted by people who were tired of civil war and killing each other. It is why Gandhi, Nehru, Patel, Ambedkar, Maulana Azad pursued it for India even if it was formally added into the constitution later. It is the same with the concept of democracy, and the concepts of liberty, fraternity, equality. The whole idea of a constitution. Secularism was never something, anywhere in the world, that people developed or accepted spontaneously. People accepted it because they were tired of hate and wanted to improve their lives and live in peace. People various religions practice their religions privately. In a new democracy, secularism is supposed to be superimposed on various religious groups so they can live together peacefully within one territory and pursue other objectives such as healthcare, food, education, competing with other powers like China. Why are people in India going down the rabid path of looking for cultural causes of the failure of secularism--this is only going to muddy the water further so we make things worse, not better. We have to create a common vision for India together. Yes, reversing Shah Bano judgment was a big mistake for which we have been paying a heavy, heavy price. But we need to move on towards a more perfect union. This why USA, UK, Australia, etc have pursued secularism and they are also trying to move towards a more perfect union. It is why India chose secularism and we must continue to pursue a more perfect union. It is the crux of the point that my father, Professor Shanti Swarup, was covering in his videos here. Please do give a few minutes of your time to review the issue of secularism, specifically as discussed in the videos. Thank you. Dhanyawad. Shukriya, bahut meherbani. ~ Smita Swarup th-cam.com/video/PRR9EPNUUJw/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/OMjEzJ1JgZ0/w-d-xo.html
@@smitaswarup8562 didi CHILL
eagerly waiting for mr.subramanian swamy in ITC😁
Yogendra Yadav is he invited ???
Asif ali Kashmiri will get freedom from terrorism and jihadi mullah's. Please have look your beloved Porkistan army doing in baluchistan,in Karachi, in FATA. Our army is not doing such things.
BJP chor party h
@@pragya7654 he is in china nowdays hope he'll came soon😊
@@vipulpangadi2811 bhai to imandar kon hai ye bhi bata do..chor to sab hai likhen kuch chor k desh k liye acha kam kr rhe hai to atleast stand by ur govt.
rest is urs u/a 19(1)(a)
Shahi tharoor is the only one who can talk in English as a intelectual this is the Trend in india but after listening to Swapan Dasgupta ...hats off 🙏🙏🇮🇳🇮🇳🤘
Tharor not Intellactuals
@@debasisbandopadhyay1345 sheesh u could not even spell intellectual.....
@@joeljacobfelix4871
Really ! what a knowledge !
Thank you
@@debasisbandopadhyay1345 he is international level not north indian
@@keralanaturelover196
Who is international level ?
"Rajdeep it's not a television show it's a discussion show", he should have followed Dr. Dasgupta.
Rajdeep has still not recovered from May 23 electric shock.
India never recovered from may 23
@@KalaiVanan31 It added 145 billion $ yesterday after new tax reform
@@sattva6089 exactly 5 trillion will happen with in 3 months ... demonitization Ka kasam
He has not recovered after 2002 Gujrat riots. He is trying hard since then to malgn modi ji image.
Rajdeep criticized....but is he the replica of what ill .project....
Him to b.....
He comes well ..,but Indian populace....masaallaha
Sashi tharoor conceded as he bares the burden of Congress on his back ...Swapandasgupta 💓
Genuine.😑 Pappu should be expelled
Swapan Dasgupta sir..is osm...Bengali is always best...😍😍😍😍
Even I am bengali but i dont agree with what swapan ji said about the indian nation extending past its consitution.
das many people are biased. Dasgupta is intelligent but narrow minded and manner less like politician. Tharoor educated in kerala college in Mumbai and then head of operations in many foreign companies in many countries is more cultured. He is talking legally by constitution. Other guy says like Hinduism and bjp marwari controlled bjp it is becoming
Very interesting debate. Mr. Tharoor might be better in English language and in communication using logic but I find Mr. Swapan Dasgupta's intelligence level is higher. ☺️
Swapan is facist party member
@@Ahmed-vw3iw tumhe saare chutye apne saathi or hoshiyar apne dushman lgte h
I just love the great debate of these two scholars
We might be disagree with some one but it's very fascinating to watch these overwhelming points
Zara dekhiye-We must stop this hate mongering by upper caste Hindus. We must bring about Ambedkar’s and Gandhiji’s freedom struggle 2.0 with some variant of NYAY and rule of law and true constitutional democracy. Supreme Court said demolition was illegal and wrong. I have read 1045 page ruling. However, they were afraid bloodthirsty RSS goons who would go around killing as they did in Feb in Delhi. My Dad was a freedom fighter and a Pol Sc Professor. He passed away at age 96 in March 2020. We lost everything in partition. My grandfather was killed. But we were brought up secular. My parents were so proud of independence throughout their lives. This vengeful, entitled group of Hindus is really hard to stomach.
Please give 10-30 minutes of your time. Professor Shanti Swarup, 96, teaches Secularism 101... Various good people are muddying the waters about secularism. In my humble view, conceptually and in very simple terms, secularism was something consciously adopted and accepted by people who were tired of civil war and killing each other. It is why Gandhi, Nehru, Patel, Ambedkar, Maulana Azad pursued it for India even if it was formally added into the constitution later. It is the same with the concept of democracy, and the concepts of liberty, fraternity, equality. The whole idea of a constitution. Secularism was never something, anywhere in the world, that people developed or accepted spontaneously. People accepted it because they were tired of hate and wanted to improve their lives and live in peace. People various religions practice their religions privately. In a new democracy, secularism is supposed to be superimposed on various religious groups so they can live together peacefully within one territory and pursue other objectives such as healthcare, food, education, competing with other powers like China. Why are people in India going down the rabid path of looking for cultural causes of the failure of secularism--this is only going to muddy the water further so we make things worse, not better. We have to create a common vision for India together. Yes, reversing Shah Bano judgment was a big mistake for which we have been paying a heavy, heavy price. But we need to move on towards a more perfect union. This why USA, UK, Australia, etc have pursued secularism and they are also trying to move towards a more perfect union. It is why India chose secularism and we must continue to pursue a more perfect union. It is the crux of the point that my father, Professor Shanti Swarup, was covering in his videos here. Please do give a few minutes of your time to review the issue of secularism, specifically as discussed in the videos. Thank you. Dhanyawad. Shukriya, bahut meherbani. ~ Smita Swarup th-cam.com/video/PRR9EPNUUJw/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/OMjEzJ1JgZ0/w-d-xo.html
Wow. Take a bow Mr. Swapan Dasgupta. What a speaker. He proved once again that when it comes to wittiness and Intellectualism, Bengalis are unmatched. I mean the way he simply outplayed even a fine orator like Dr. Tharoor is simply fantastic. Proud to be a Bengali, proud to be a Kolkatan.
Or did he? He has elevated sidestepping into an artform.
@@incorrigiblesam Well you need to watch the show once again. Make sure to take off your glass of biasness before that.
It was a great debate, where both of the panel have the equal knowledge of different ideology.
How did I miss such a good debate before!! Gr8 to hear these people & I thoroughly enjoyed such a debate!!
True Gentleman Swapan Dasgupta .
Great work, always shows Mirror to librandus
I had dictionary in my one hand and mobile in my other while watching this video.
Hahaha
@rulia ram Kudos to you . Very well explained, though I'll ignore the comment on IQ for now. Ha ha ha.
I don't know if we are genuinely Dumb or just act so(wonder why?) , Suffer from self persecution syndrom or is it calculated move , I mean all those stunts (like Anti CAA, anti-article 370 wiping off in Kashmere, etc etc etc by the visible face of students of the Primary Educational institutes like JU, JNU, the politicians, the "Intellectual" 's stand exposing themselves as dang Hypocrites,.. Berating everything positive for the country, crying for anything that will weaken the country) , most of all their naive belief they could Fool all of us , all the time.... Ha ha ha... Well well, maybe the IQ comment was not that way off line after all...
😂😂😂😂😂
The Right place for Tharoor is to be professor of English, and persue doctorate in English with the thesis :
*MASTERING BRITISH ACCENT FOR NON-BRITISHERS*
Purpose: TO MAINTAIN & CARRY FORWARD SLAVISH MINDSET OF THE SLAVE OF BRITISH IMPERIALISM DURING COLONISATION OF BRITISH ERA.
Goal: FULFILLING THE DREAMS OF LORD MACAULAY OF BREAKING THE BACKBONE OF A COMMUNITY BY ATTACK & DESTRUCTION OF IT'S CULTURAL IDENTITY.
Me also
when anchors are biased, it becomes a funny conclave 😂😂😂
Very well said Mr Dasgupta, 1) The constitution is essentially a rule book 2) Its subject to changes and modifications 3) It has been subjected to manipulations and frauds (eg articles 370, 35 A). So, this constitution cannot be sacrosanct, it cannot override the voice of it's people today.
So, let's not get over obsessed about this book. The living nation and the strong voices coming from it today are more important than this book.
Our Constitution is Secular Democratic with Sensible Nationalism.
That will remain forever.
There is a difference between modifying the constitution and wanting to remove secularism from the constitution. Of course the constitution needs to be updated with changes. But Hindutva goes against a fundamental right. Fundamental.
@@sadiadagreat If such is your comprehension of Hindutva, you fundamentally do not understand it.
I'm an extreme BJP supporter ...... But , Dr. Shashi Tharur ... This man is just awesome ... I will anyday accept him as the prime minister of our country ...
wife killer
No .... You n me are no one to decide ... Have faith on judiciary
What nonsense this bastard tharoor says no good Hindu would want a ram temple
@@allahmotherfooker5593 All of them are gone mental, Tharoor as PM my foot, first of all, he has a suspected faked degree which is questionable all Cong goons have been given one. Anybody can talk and express their views that are found in many books of today, all you have to is twist the words around and start a gossip. That doesn't mean it was words spoken came out of his thoughts. He is a wife-killer and that idea is from many books he might have read.
If Tharoor become PM thn thr vl b only women in his cabinet
Why mr tharoor is not the opposition leader he is such a good orator n far far much better then aahir.
True
Because, he is a SLAVE.
'Cuz he is Tharoor not Gandhi.
Congress only endorses slaves, unlike BJP where you grow from ground level. One has to be from Gandhi family.
jai hind 🇮🇳 , salute Dr. Swapan Dasgupta
Ha ha u uneducated north. Sashi tharoor head of major international companies and UN. Other guy intelligent but narrow minded manerless like politician
The points where Dasgupta put a strong hold were mostly been suppressed by intellectual Sardesai.. what does ease of business ranking say? What does tax returns say? What does growing foreign reserves say? What does strong position of india in international forums say? What does increase in money liquidity say?
True Bengali... intelligent...clever ...smart... effective..Swapan Das
Dasgupta not Das.
he is bengali.. also born 1955 calcutta
"I win my elections in Malayalam". Woah
It seems, (Swapan dasGupta vs Shahi tharoor and Rajdeep sardesai).
Rajdeep can't be neutral as a jurnalist.
Great "Rolling back" by Swapan Dasgupta to Rajdeep
Don't remember the last time when I watched a 40+ mins show in a stretch apart from a OTT content, a political debate would have been the least possibility. Debates of this standard and mutual respect should be more appreciated by the new India. The Indian-public cannot simply blame the government and media for being less accommodative and radically one-sided, because the laters are a sample size of the formers.
Can swapan dasgupta be the Next CM of West bengal ??
@@user-sq4pg5yv1j no bengalis barely know him
Swapan das gupta had a clean and clear way of convincing power. He even touched each and every words of rajdeep too he countered both shashi and rajdeep effectively and convincingly..
Swapan Dasgupta ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️..
Great Debate. Loved Swapanji's points. Rajdeep proves again that he cannot moderate well but always clouded by his point of view. Great English course for sure!!
Swapan daa is the best ambassador for the BJP.......huge respects 🙏🙏🙏
I am Hindu but I hate cow lynching swapan hindu views. Please people stop supporting anyone who try to divide
@@pclalramenga304 you are free to unite yourself with Muslim
Under BJP, Article 370 was revoked without consulting the opposition. (This is called Politics.)
Under Congress, people should not forget, Article 370 was introduced without consulting the Cabinet. (This is called Imperialism of Gandhi/Nehru Parivaar.)
Article 370 was revoked by vote in parliament with present opposition despite not having majority in upper house. Hence they were all involved in the revocation
I think you forgot that 370 abrogation was debated and approved by indian parliament. This is not politics. This is by far the best democratic action.
@petra bach its called politics ,, there are other provisions in art 371 which gives special concessions to states however the same party does not utter a single word about those provisions simply because of the value that kashmir holds in indian politics ,, i had no qualms about art 370 enforcement or revocation ,, its just the suppression that i dislike ,,, how will kashmiris believe in indian politics when they have seen what they have done to their leaders and with them ,, i hope everything works out in the end but it will seriously dent the belief about india in the minds of kashmiri people
@Donnie Darko RSS is a poltiical cultural organisation more religiously political than cultural and yes its the biggest but it does not make it better than other religious political organisations ,,
Perfectly
I expected Dr Dasgupta as our CM.
Heartbroken
True, under Dasgupta Sonar Bangla was very probable but BJP made a blunder of fighting the election on the face of Dilu Da
@@kinshukhazra absolutely
2026 e Swapan Dasgupta k CM face korte hobe
Swapan Dasgupta next chief minister of West Bengal
Hi ROHAN .
Agree with your comment.
Honestly, if Hindus know about their religion, and become faithful, similarly to muslims and Christians and all people about their religion. India will be a great country
"popular sentiment" ...that's the term many need to understand
Swpan das
Love sir
we don't need to explain what it means to be Hindu
Swapan das gupta debating two congress members at once...awesome
Zara dekhiye-We must stop this hate mongering by upper caste Hindus. We must bring about Ambedkar’s and Gandhiji’s freedom struggle 2.0 with some variant of NYAY and rule of law and true constitutional democracy. Supreme Court said demolition was illegal and wrong. I have read 1045 page ruling. However, they were afraid bloodthirsty RSS goons who would go around killing as they did in Feb in Delhi. My Dad was a freedom fighter and a Pol Sc Professor. He passed away at age 96 in March 2020. We lost everything in partition. My grandfather was killed. But we were brought up secular. My parents were so proud of independence throughout their lives. This vengeful, entitled group of Hindus is really hard to stomach.
Please give 10-30 minutes of your time. Professor Shanti Swarup, 96, teaches Secularism 101... Various good people are muddying the waters about secularism. In my humble view, conceptually and in very simple terms, secularism was something consciously adopted and accepted by people who were tired of civil war and killing each other. It is why Gandhi, Nehru, Patel, Ambedkar, Maulana Azad pursued it for India even if it was formally added into the constitution later. It is the same with the concept of democracy, and the concepts of liberty, fraternity, equality. The whole idea of a constitution. Secularism was never something, anywhere in the world, that people developed or accepted spontaneously. People accepted it because they were tired of hate and wanted to improve their lives and live in peace. People various religions practice their religions privately. In a new democracy, secularism is supposed to be superimposed on various religious groups so they can live together peacefully within one territory and pursue other objectives such as healthcare, food, education, competing with other powers like China. Why are people in India going down the rabid path of looking for cultural causes of the failure of secularism--this is only going to muddy the water further so we make things worse, not better. We have to create a common vision for India together. Yes, reversing Shah Bano judgment was a big mistake for which we have been paying a heavy, heavy price. But we need to move on towards a more perfect union. This why USA, UK, Australia, etc have pursued secularism and they are also trying to move towards a more perfect union. It is why India chose secularism and we must continue to pursue a more perfect union. It is the crux of the point that my father, Professor Shanti Swarup, was covering in his videos here. Please do give a few minutes of your time to review the issue of secularism, specifically as discussed in the videos. Thank you. Dhanyawad. Shukriya, bahut meherbani. ~ Smita Swarup th-cam.com/video/PRR9EPNUUJw/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/OMjEzJ1JgZ0/w-d-xo.html
Has Sunanda Tharoor received justice yet, Rajdeep ?
Very good question is thispeople are role models? Giving big lectures on freddom shame
@@ashokshetty3034 he is polite matured. He educated in kerala village and still studied brightly in mumbai. Head of operations in many foreign companies in many foreign companies and un. Qualification matters.
Rajdeep asks questions which can’t be answered in yes or no, however he goes on and demanding a yes or no answer, how funny he claims himself as an intellectual.
For the first time i have watched these kind of debates completely..it was tremendous by both guests..their english is next level wht usually we speat at office r home...thre were many words tht i couldn't understand even rajdeep was in trouble at some point ....
Another example of slave mentality 👏. Ga Ga over a foriegn language.
Very civilized and matured debate. Love to see more like this . Both are eloquent gentlemen !!
swapan das gupta was awesome
Hats off to Shashi Tharoor. That's what education does.
Articulate in english does not mean intelligent.
If only sunanda had known this.
@@indianmilitary the problem is either you don't understand english or you deny to appreciate him.. he made good points answered to the point and made good arguments.
@Ed u Kate sashi tharoor has criticized congress many times even in his books
If this is what education does then it is sad!
This is how educated people debate. Fools and freaks shouting on TV should learn from it.
I admire the good english and how eloquent the people in India
Very typical English which we use in day to day life .
Wow, swapan sir elucidates clearly.
Zara dekhiye-We must stop this hate mongering by upper caste Hindus. We must bring about Ambedkar’s and Gandhiji’s freedom struggle 2.0 with some variant of NYAY and rule of law and true constitutional democracy. Supreme Court said demolition was illegal and wrong. I have read 1045 page ruling. However, they were afraid bloodthirsty RSS goons who would go around killing as they did in Feb in Delhi. My Dad was a freedom fighter and a Pol Sc Professor. He passed away at age 96 in March 2020. We lost everything in partition. My grandfather was killed. But we were brought up secular. My parents were so proud of independence throughout their lives. This vengeful, entitled group of Hindus is really hard to stomach.
Please give 10-30 minutes of your time. Professor Shanti Swarup, 96, teaches Secularism 101... Various good people are muddying the waters about secularism. In my humble view, conceptually and in very simple terms, secularism was something consciously adopted and accepted by people who were tired of civil war and killing each other. It is why Gandhi, Nehru, Patel, Ambedkar, Maulana Azad pursued it for India even if it was formally added into the constitution later. It is the same with the concept of democracy, and the concepts of liberty, fraternity, equality. The whole idea of a constitution. Secularism was never something, anywhere in the world, that people developed or accepted spontaneously. People accepted it because they were tired of hate and wanted to improve their lives and live in peace. People various religions practice their religions privately. In a new democracy, secularism is supposed to be superimposed on various religious groups so they can live together peacefully within one territory and pursue other objectives such as healthcare, food, education, competing with other powers like China. Why are people in India going down the rabid path of looking for cultural causes of the failure of secularism--this is only going to muddy the water further so we make things worse, not better. We have to create a common vision for India together. Yes, reversing Shah Bano judgment was a big mistake for which we have been paying a heavy, heavy price. But we need to move on towards a more perfect union. This why USA, UK, Australia, etc have pursued secularism and they are also trying to move towards a more perfect union. It is why India chose secularism and we must continue to pursue a more perfect union. It is the crux of the point that my father, Professor Shanti Swarup, was covering in his videos here. Please do give a few minutes of your time to review the issue of secularism, specifically as discussed in the videos. Thank you. Dhanyawad. Shukriya, bahut meherbani. ~ Smita Swarup th-cam.com/video/PRR9EPNUUJw/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/OMjEzJ1JgZ0/w-d-xo.html
@@smitaswarup8562 ma'am: to preach secularism to hindus is easy and a reflection of escapism. Try to preach the same to the so called peaceful minorities. You label RSS as bloodthirsty but conveniently forget the massacres of hindus in J&K, Assam, kerala and in the so called peaceful west Bengal where temples are also desecrated. The latest incident of Bangalore...it goes on and on. My family was also butchered during partition in comilla and we have also been raised with the hindu ethos like universal brotherhood but our politeness is mistaken for cowardice. We have to be loving and caring but have to be strict and punish the fundamentalists.
@@shivajichoudhury3083 did you read my message? Abt my grandfather being murdered? Pl see the videos of my Dad who passed away at age 96 in March this year. He was a freedom fighter. my grandparents and my great grandfather were refugees. Had to start life again. Pl consider carefully for 24 hours. Then I look forward to your replies based on serious factual research, not gossip sent by trolls on Whatsapp etc.
@@shivajichoudhury3083 also have you heard abt fak encounters? Also, have you read 1045 page SC ruling? Also, do you know what rule of law means? Pl Indian citizens need to study a bit before commenting.
@@smitaswarup8562 again I am telling that you that whatever you are writing will be taken into cognizance by me but pls go and preach your great ideals to the ones who resorts to the killings of the innocent in the name of religion!!!
And I have full grip over the political and social matters of the country and not driven by WhatsApp.
I recommend you to be in touch with on ground realities!!!
And my salute to your grandfather!!!
what a clarity of mind from gupta on hindutva
Finally I found someone who could speak equally well as Dr. Shashi Tharoor....
This Debate was more of a battle with the English dictionary rather than a debate on the political & economic scenario of the country!👌👏👏
One of the finest debates I have heard, considering it was testing the vocabularistic ability of the three "Stephenians".👏👏👏💐💐🙏
Both the speakers, Dr. Shashi Tharoor and Dr. Sapan Das Gupta and also the anchor are really intellectuals. They have enlightened us.
Rajdeep in a very excellent way put the question to Mr Swapan from corruption to nationalism.
Very excellent? What's that?
@@val-schaeffer1117 listen to the debate from 25:40 onward.......
moderator failed to understand the most basic rule of being a moderator. he is actually carrying his own agenda. its like a cricket umpire will start doing personal vendetta on field
39:34
what does he say?
dennistism?
no he was fine
Both speakers rock .
mr Sardesai is so condescending and painting a derogatory picture every time Mr Dasgupta says something positive.
I just love this debate.
Swapan you rock sir, love your intellectual to core.
Let one thing be clear Hinduism is hindutva. Proud United Hindu.
I admire Shashi for his knowledge and wisdom and good heart for humanity
Dawahdude There were a few good responses from Shashi . But leading a Nation is far beyond intellectual capabilities. It is also to do with patriotism , Character and last but not the least being ready to sacrifice personal interests over national security.
Yeah good heart for kill a wife softly isn't?
I want learn English how to i will learn
God bless sunandha 😉
@@kamaleshjothi4730 comment made by Muslim, so whatever shashi says for them it will be great
Swapan dasgupta rocks and I must say sashi also answered well and Rajdeep was as chutiya as ever.
BHAI.....BHAI......BHAI........
This summarises the whole debate/discussion in the best possible way... 🤣
Haha.What a comment sirji!
This sums up the whole event :D
dream on brother...
Oh God! Sardesai really needs to exit the TV scene now. He is simply painful with all his circus now.
Why can't we have one more round of this, now?🥺
Wow..after such a long time got to see a healthy debate..
3:42 he almost called him "Swapan-Dosh" Gupta there!! 😂😂
Should the top comment.. Nicely catched and commented.. Swapan dosh das gupta
@@abhilashpandey1352 Thanks brother! 😄
He pronounce woth "yao" as suffix....lol!!
😆😅😅😃😊
Our Bengalli accent sounds like that actually. Das is Dosh. Rasgulla in common hindi is roshagulla.
3:43.. rajdesai was about to say swapan dosh gupta😛😛
Haha yeah😂.. i bet mr. dasgupta was trolled in. School because of that😂
Zara dekhiye-We must stop this hate mongering by upper caste Hindus. We must bring about Ambedkar’s and Gandhiji’s freedom struggle 2.0 with some variant of NYAY and rule of law and true constitutional democracy. Supreme Court said demolition was illegal and wrong. I have read 1045 page ruling. However, they were afraid bloodthirsty RSS goons who would go around killing as they did in Feb in Delhi. My Dad was a freedom fighter and a Pol Sc Professor. He passed away at age 96 in March 2020. We lost everything in partition. My grandfather was killed. But we were brought up secular. My parents were so proud of independence throughout their lives. This vengeful, entitled group of Hindus is really hard to stomach.
Please give 10-30 minutes of your time. Professor Shanti Swarup, 96, teaches Secularism 101... Various good people are muddying the waters about secularism. In my humble view, conceptually and in very simple terms, secularism was something consciously adopted and accepted by people who were tired of civil war and killing each other. It is why Gandhi, Nehru, Patel, Ambedkar, Maulana Azad pursued it for India even if it was formally added into the constitution later. It is the same with the concept of democracy, and the concepts of liberty, fraternity, equality. The whole idea of a constitution. Secularism was never something, anywhere in the world, that people developed or accepted spontaneously. People accepted it because they were tired of hate and wanted to improve their lives and live in peace. People various religions practice their religions privately. In a new democracy, secularism is supposed to be superimposed on various religious groups so they can live together peacefully within one territory and pursue other objectives such as healthcare, food, education, competing with other powers like China. Why are people in India going down the rabid path of looking for cultural causes of the failure of secularism--this is only going to muddy the water further so we make things worse, not better. We have to create a common vision for India together. Yes, reversing Shah Bano judgment was a big mistake for which we have been paying a heavy, heavy price. But we need to move on towards a more perfect union. This why USA, UK, Australia, etc have pursued secularism and they are also trying to move towards a more perfect union. It is why India chose secularism and we must continue to pursue a more perfect union. It is the crux of the point that my father, Professor Shanti Swarup, was covering in his videos here. Please do give a few minutes of your time to review the issue of secularism, specifically as discussed in the videos. Thank you. Dhanyawad. Shukriya, bahut meherbani. ~ Smita Swarup th-cam.com/video/PRR9EPNUUJw/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/OMjEzJ1JgZ0/w-d-xo.html
Bengali pronouncation
Great debate, enjoyed every word of it, it's like looking into a dictionary, in presence of greats like Swapan and tharoor.
I love this man Swapan Dasgupta
Swapan Dasgupta rocks. He always says correct & logic with truth.
He is such a logical and intellectuals saying why protests and violence not happening on streets of India if there is unemployment in India..... it means everything in India is alright regarding unemployment
Those who want Swapan to be next Bengal CM please like.
Tharoor , classy as always. Nailed this debate
Lol😂😂 biased comments
Both the guest are exceptionally good , weak point is Rajdeep , Mr Poorie should rethink about him
At 2:00 he said many of those toilets dont have drinking water...
What he exactly mean that ke there is no water connection
Oh he did... haha
Wtf
Good observation !
Well now we know what he does in a toilet 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is thinking of liberal
Swapandas Gupta is so inspiring ❤
Swapan what a man. Good English and good clarity of thought
Rajdip they did not put them in the trap, congress is & has been a Muslim appeasing country. Glorifying the Mughals & not the Hindu kings. There is way beautiful architecture in India than Taj but those architectural wonders were never projected.
Exactly. Congress is an anti-hindu party. Now only hindus are realising that.
@@smithanmahi2065 bjp is a bigger anti hindu party.
Do you understand Politics?
@@researchchroniclesbyfateh6354 : congress is an anti India party
@@greygrey9628 BJP is more of Anti India Party
They have killed the Idea of India.
It's amazing to see... Dasgupta outplayed Tharoor on the same stage... It's equally amazing to see,,,, you want to hear someone else while someone like Tharoor speaking on the stage....
@Ankit Parmar What according to you is barking, is actually the art of combating two oppositions simultaneously both logically and intellectually.
Trust me, Bengalis are master in that.
The should also mention about the water tanks in ever village and electricity not to forget....i saw all those....
Than why we have Muslim personal board???? If u reject the idea of hindutav than we reject the idea of Islam.
Uniform Civil code is much much needed
Talk like a whipped dog
@@farhanmirza815 See thats the problem.. when we talk about your religion you get butthurt.. fuck off now troll