Truly impressive footage. I, as a photographer, would love to walk around there. It feels like an industrial paradise with these sceneries and the perfect light.
A pleasure to watch eight years on and I am sure many more times especially since our club is building a HO scale steel works. I will share it with club members. Your videos are wonderful for us steam train buffs. Thank you for the effort that you put in.
Thanks, I am pleased I went to China when there was still steam (and no Covid!). I would be interested to see photos or video of your club’s steelworks layout when it is finished, or at least part completed! Yahoo mail is my ‘alternative’ email address (I do not publish the main one here). Send your email address to usd512(at)yahoo.co.uk. In reply I will send you my main Gmail address.
Very much a hobby. I enjoy visiting the locations and I get great satisfaction being able to share what I see with others around the world. I am delighted you like my efforts. George
Chinese steam locomotives usually have both air horns and steam whistles. At most locations they seem to be used at random. Bill Alborough reported on a visit to Beitai in October 2002 that "Environmentalists had forced hooters only - no whistles" How true this is I do not know but ten years on they still only use hooters
I so enjoy your videos. I too am so happy that steam is still being used in China. Brings back many fond memories of the steam era in the United States...... Doug...=)
I absolutely love your videos,especially the ones on steel. Steam is still alive in China and most likely will be for many years to come. Thank you for making these videos,but I have a question. Do you make films as a hobby or is it work or both ? Very interesting videos. 5 star quality !!!
Hermoso video. Mientras lo miraba imaginaba lo que seria trabajar en un lugar asi, no se veia muy protegido que digamos a sus trabajadores. Tiene un aspecto sombrío que, para quienes nunca se enfrentan a una acería, mete un poco de miedo. Las acerías son plantas en todo el mundo en general muy ruidosas, contaminantes, mucho polvo de minerales y carbono, lo cual se las ubica lejos de áreas urbanas. Las locomotoras son hermosas, me llamo la atencion su silbato a aire comprimido. Muy buen trabajo de filmación y arriesgado
Ahhh, a day in the life in the Workers Paradise at the People's Revolutionary AnitImperialist Forward Marching Steel Works #27! Anyway....I'm surprised steam machinery of any kind was used so long...anywhere. it's a maintenance nightmare. Too many moving parts and dealing with the scale caused by bad water is a headache by itself. When I went to work on the then Chessie System, later known as CSX, formally the C&O Railway (not Railroad) in 1977, they still had a steam derrick (crane) that we referred to as the Big Hook! It was rated at 200 tons. There was only one man left that was rated (approved) to fire it. He recently died, well into his 80s. That steam derrick was immensely powerful, much faster than the 250 ton diesel version they had and watching them work....more powerful. The steam engine that drove the machinery was actually quite small but worked thru huge bull gears about five feet in diameter. It was a greasy, leaky mess when under steam...built in 1918....I remember the build plate on the side....I think the Schenectady Works or similar, built it. I wish I had taken pictures back then. It was long ago scrapped, probably around 1990.
Steam locos were a lot easier to maintain than diesels that have complex electronics and parts only obtainable from the manufacturer. Many steam components could be fabricated by a well-equipped engineering workshop. Pollution was a major factor in the death of the steam loco. Diesel pollution is invisible unlike clouds of harmless steam!
It’s another century there in many ways It’s possible that this technology of a bygone era is still efficient and effective in that region. It’s amazing how quiet the work area is when not listening to Diesel engines and other machinery running.
Brilliant George, you really seem to have caught it! Eyes in the back of your head and two good ears, major requirement for staying alive! . . . . . . Alan
Real steam engines doing real work. I would hope that when these are replaced with diesel engines and retired, that China realizes these are treasures and keeps some of them!
There is a large railway museum with static exhibits on the outskirts of Beijing. A few QJ class 2-10-2 locos are/were stored at Daban for use on excursions over the Jing Pang Pass, I am not sure if these still run. At least one (Shibanxi), possibly more, narrow gauge lines run steam tourist trains using C2 class 0-8-0 locos. China is a big country there are probably other railway museums.
Can anyone shed light on the fact that the loco's use air horns instead of steam whistles, from what I have seen it appears standard practice in China.
This is a reply I gave to the same question six years ago "Chinese steam locomotives usually have both air horns and steam whistles. At most locations they seem to be used at random. Bill Alborough reported on a visit to Beitai in October 2002 that "Environmentalists had forced hooters only - no whistles" How true this is I do not know but ten years on they still only use hooters"
Chinese steam locomotives were fitterd with both steam whistles and air horns. There was never a fixed pattern of usage. locos at some locations used either, at other places the air horn was used most often. I have no idea why one type was chosed to be used over another.
They are coal fired. Between min 3:45-4:00, when SY1561 is running in reverse, the coal is just visible at the top of the tender. As far as I am aware all steam locos in China are coal fired.
All Chinese steam locos were and those that are still in use are fired by coal. The coal is frequently very fine and dusty with very few lumps. They are definitely not fired by any form of compressed gas. When steam was running on the main line the lack of black smoke was due to careful firing. Footplate crews got a bonus based on how little coal was used. I doubt if this policy was applied to steelworks locos.
Ben Krein the firemen are just really good at their job.... after doing the same thing for probably 20 years. Thick black smoke isn't a good thing on steam locos
Yes the SY class 2-8-2 steam locos were all built at the Tangshan loco works in China. They were the last major class of steam locomotives to be produced anywhere in the world, the last being built in 1999. The design is based on the earlier Japanese-built JF6 Class 2-8-2s which itself was based on a locomotive type built by the Alco in the 1920s.
@@alanscott6088 Steam locomotive classes were very standardised during the last years of operation in China. Just three standard gauge classes. SY 2-8-2 and the more powerful JS 2-8-2 were available for industrial use. QJ class 2-10-2 were the only type available for main line passenger and freight. C2 class 0-8-0 locos were the only type on the narrow gauge.
They use both a steam whistle and a diesel horn..reason being...the diesel horn is louder and gets people's attention faster..plus its one of the trademarks of China steam engines..even the JS 2-10-2's have both horns...the steam whistle on these engines are also cool as well .
Truly impressive footage. I, as a photographer, would love to walk around there. It feels like an industrial paradise with these sceneries and the perfect light.
A pleasure to watch eight years on and I am sure many more times especially since our club is building a HO scale steel works. I will share it with club members. Your videos are wonderful for us steam train buffs. Thank you for the effort that you put in.
Thanks, I am pleased I went to China when there was still steam (and no Covid!). I would be interested to see photos or video of your club’s steelworks layout when it is finished, or at least part completed! Yahoo mail is my ‘alternative’ email address (I do not publish the main one here). Send your email address to usd512(at)yahoo.co.uk. In reply I will send you my main Gmail address.
Very much a hobby. I enjoy visiting the locations and I get great satisfaction being able to share what I see with others around the world. I am delighted you like my efforts.
George
Excellent video a lot of things going on, a steam crane alive and well plus two steam loco,s.
One great yard & operations with all those ♨️steam engines. Fascinating video! ***
Thank you.
A rail roader dream not just Museum pieces but real working steam trains wish it was closer to us
Excellent footage.👍☘️
Many thanks
Chinese steam locomotives usually have both air horns and steam whistles. At most locations they seem to be used at random. Bill Alborough reported on a visit to Beitai in October 2002 that "Environmentalists had forced hooters only - no whistles" How true this is I do not know but ten years on they still only use hooters
Another great video from industrial China, thank you!
Superb...you've really caught the atmosphere of the place. Diesels just wouldn't seem right here.
I so enjoy your videos. I too am so happy that steam is still being used in China. Brings back many fond memories of the steam era in the United States...... Doug...=)
I absolutely love your videos,especially the ones on steel. Steam is still alive in China and most likely will be for many years to come. Thank you for making these videos,but I have a question. Do you make films as a hobby or is it work or both ? Very interesting videos. 5 star quality !!!
Hermoso video. Mientras lo miraba imaginaba lo que seria trabajar en un lugar asi, no se veia muy protegido que digamos a sus trabajadores. Tiene un aspecto sombrío que, para quienes nunca se enfrentan a una acería, mete un poco de miedo. Las acerías son plantas en todo el mundo en general muy ruidosas, contaminantes, mucho polvo de minerales y carbono, lo cual se las ubica lejos de áreas urbanas. Las locomotoras son hermosas, me llamo la atencion su silbato a aire comprimido. Muy buen trabajo de filmación y arriesgado
Ahhh, a day in the life in the Workers Paradise at the People's Revolutionary AnitImperialist Forward Marching Steel Works #27!
Anyway....I'm surprised steam machinery of any kind was used so long...anywhere. it's a maintenance nightmare. Too many moving parts and dealing with the scale caused by bad water is a headache by itself.
When I went to work on the then Chessie System, later known as CSX, formally the C&O Railway (not Railroad) in 1977, they still had a steam derrick (crane) that we referred to as the Big Hook! It was rated at 200 tons. There was only one man left that was rated (approved) to fire it. He recently died, well into his 80s. That steam derrick was immensely powerful, much faster than the 250 ton diesel version they had and watching them work....more powerful. The steam engine that drove the machinery was actually quite small but worked thru huge bull gears about five feet in diameter. It was a greasy, leaky mess when under steam...built in 1918....I remember the build plate on the side....I think the Schenectady Works or similar, built it. I wish I had taken pictures back then. It was long ago scrapped, probably around 1990.
Steam locos were a lot easier to maintain than diesels that have complex electronics and parts only obtainable from the manufacturer. Many steam components could be fabricated by a well-equipped engineering workshop. Pollution was a major factor in the death of the steam loco. Diesel pollution is invisible unlike clouds of harmless steam!
Absolutely Fascinating... Like the other viewer said, 'A live museum"... They must somehow preserve some of this equipment, even if they go Diesel.
Great video. A live museum.
It’s another century there in many ways It’s possible that this technology of a bygone era is still efficient and effective in that region. It’s amazing how quiet the work area is when not listening to Diesel engines and other machinery running.
Brilliant George, you really seem to have caught it! Eyes in the back of your head and two good ears, major requirement for staying alive! . . . . . . Alan
Real steam engines doing real work. I would hope that when these are replaced with diesel engines and retired, that China realizes these are treasures and keeps some of them!
There is a large railway museum with static exhibits on the outskirts of Beijing. A few QJ class 2-10-2 locos are/were stored at Daban for use on excursions over the Jing Pang Pass, I am not sure if these still run. At least one (Shibanxi), possibly more, narrow gauge lines run steam tourist trains using C2 class 0-8-0 locos. China is a big country there are probably other railway museums.
Excellent camera work
Thank you
I wonder if they have a safety office and a human resources branch at Beitei steel?
Barnekkid It's a labor camp for PLA.
Can anyone shed light on the fact that the loco's use air horns instead of steam whistles, from what I have seen it appears standard practice in China.
This is a reply I gave to the same question six years ago "Chinese steam locomotives usually have both air horns and steam whistles. At most locations they seem to be used at random. Bill Alborough reported on a visit to Beitai in October 2002 that "Environmentalists had forced hooters only - no whistles" How true this is I do not know but ten years on they still only use hooters"
Lovely old steam crane too.
why do they have an air horn when they have a whistle
Chinese steam locomotives were fitterd with both steam whistles and air horns. There was never a fixed pattern of usage. locos at some locations used either, at other places the air horn was used most often. I have no idea why one type was chosed to be used over another.
Question,are the locos coal fired or oil fired,looks like their oil fired.
They are coal fired. Between min 3:45-4:00, when SY1561 is running in reverse, the coal is just visible at the top of the tender. As far as I am aware all steam locos in China are coal fired.
probably coal... they gotta shit ton of that over there...
didn't see a lotta black smoke tho. so prob LPG, CNG, or LNG...
All Chinese steam locos were and those that are still in use are fired by coal. The coal is frequently very fine and dusty with very few lumps. They are definitely not fired by any form of compressed gas. When steam was running on the main line the lack of black smoke was due to careful firing. Footplate crews got a bonus based on how little coal was used. I doubt if this policy was applied to steelworks locos.
Ben Krein the firemen are just really good at their job.... after doing the same thing for probably 20 years. Thick black smoke isn't a good thing on steam locos
Are these Chinese built locomotives 🚂?
Yes the SY class 2-8-2 steam locos were all built at the Tangshan loco works in China. They were the last major class of steam locomotives to be produced anywhere in the world, the last being built in 1999. The design is based on the earlier Japanese-built JF6 Class 2-8-2s which itself was based on a locomotive type built by the Alco in the 1920s.
@@blackthorne57 thank you for the reply and update, they seem to be a large engine for yard work?
@@alanscott6088 Steam locomotive classes were very standardised during the last years of operation in China. Just three standard gauge classes. SY 2-8-2 and the more powerful JS 2-8-2 were available for industrial use. QJ class 2-10-2 were the only type available for main line passenger and freight. C2 class 0-8-0 locos were the only type on the narrow gauge.
Super Video 😲👌👍
Altos Hornos, extracción de arrabio....
Who would put a horn on a Beautiful engine like that?
They use both a steam whistle and a diesel horn..reason being...the diesel horn is louder and gets people's attention faster..plus its one of the trademarks of China steam engines..even the JS 2-10-2's have both horns...the steam whistle on these engines are also cool as well
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歐懷澤 strange but cool fact!
@@williamou417 JS is a 2-8-2 Mikado. You may be thinking of the QJ 2-10-2?
I guess they would DRINK GALLONS OF BEER after work with all the crap in the air.
I guess these workers would DIE VERY YOUNG lung decease MUST BE VERY COMMON.
At least it's in open air. I expect working in a foundry or other enclosed space is even worse.
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