iirc, somewhere in Generations' files theres a piece of code referring to an At Dawn remix, that was supposed to play after the Goin' Down section in Speed Highway act 2. But the remix was probably scrapped early on, because the song isn't in the files anyways.
@@andrewkos5560 Parts of the game can be traced back to Sonic 3D's saturn special stages (Nov 1996) so it's a bit more than that. Sonic Team's vacation happened at the end of the 1996 too judging by the dates on their photographs.
I remember reading through a old Usenet group about Sonic, and when his modern design was revealed, people thought that actually wasn’t Sonic himself, but instead a robot/clone. It’s pretty interesting..
I know the leaked screenshot was pretty grainy and low-res, but I think I actually like the darker lighting. Kinda reminds me of Bayview from NFSU2. Also, I'm not sure why, but night-time cities in video games have always given me some sort of nostalgic feeling that I can't pin down. Especially when they have those low-res skyline skyboxes, or low-res window textures with the golden light inside.
To think, I've played this game over 20 years and there's still secret boxes that I've never seen. Watching these videos and playing rando has helped me see more.
Fun fact, at the bggginig when you first climb that building, get the speed shoes from the upper path, after that if you jump down and collect the second speed shoes (9:37) you will have infinite double speed. Also I was expecting something about how the stage is different in SADX2004's Clip Setting (which just removes a few objects... I think)
Man those images from the magazine bring back so much nostalgia. Seeing them again brings back all the excitement I originally felt when I first saw them and found out there was a 3D Sonic game in the works.
I wonder if there's a mod out there for the PC versions of the game that restores the older character models of Sonic and Tails where their hands were rounded and it looked like a slight revision of their Jam models
@@bsharpmajorscale Oh I have the dreamcast mods already. I also have the beta windy valley because I cannot go back to the bore that is the final version.
It's a dream for a million people in Sonic's community. I hope that we'll see this levels some day. Or..."SA1 Beta Mod", why not? Incredible stuff for imagination.
One of the many things they can't find - Final Egg Old Prototype. Maybe I didn't hear yet and it have been recovered, but yeah - I hope that Final Egg Old Prototype will be discovered. It'll be one of the greatest discover for the community.)
I've sometimes wondered why you were still able to re-spawn at the beginning of an Act upon either death or Pause > Restart, despite there being lampposts to spawn from. The game's stages were probably originally just one whole huge level and just streamed entire acts instead of taking a 2-3 seconds to load the next Act. That might be why those objects remain there on 11:27.
Ay this was super interesting, I'd love to see more of this! I really appreciate the effort you are putting in to researching and presenting your videos.
3:17 i was looking at the picture for 5 minutes straigh. I realised that it is a blurry picture from early build of the game with sonic doing naruto run, taken from back. The blurry blue stain thing is probably sonic's head, the 2 white triangle like things on the sides are his gloves and the giant white shoeshaped thing is of course one of sonic's shoes. the other leg might be at the front.
Incredible content as always!! I love your videos because you strech the image or use widescreen hacks, just 4:3 as the original, also without speeching makes everything much easier for you and to hear the game and pay more attention to the images and gameplay than with speeching, I loved it! Keep up with this awesome content of SA1 and SA2!!!
SA1's development, pre-release versions and both the JP/International releases are so fascinating in many ways. Speed Highway and some other levels like Final Egg got screwed over in the DX Port, especially due to the huge downgrade in lighting, as well as textures making the levels not as atmospheric as they were meant to be. Although the DC conversion mod fixes that, i can't help but feel like the original Dreamcast version is still better in some ways, like it not having that one useless speed shoes capsule in Amy's version of Twinkle Park, but i won't know if they didn't fix actual level design elements and item placement for sure unless i do comparisons between the 2. (Even then, the differences probably would be incredibly minor for the most part.)
Oh, yes! I love this stuff. And I also love that... 21 years later, this game is still interesting inside and out. Around 3:34, there's an audio jump... was something cut out of the video, SPEEPS?
But besides Act 3 "At Dawn" and Windy Valley, there aren't any other levels we haven't seen before, right? The only thing that remains to be uncovered are the old physics. Those that could fit the old Windy Valley and the test maps. If that even exists.
In terms of massive overhauls, almost. Twinkle Park was changed when the cart stuff was added. The object layout for act 1 in the autodemo suggests this was originally what it looked like before becoming the track: info.sonicretro.org/File:SA_Tails_Unknown_Room.png
@@SPEEPSHighway oh wow. That looks so cool. And Amy having that ballroom, or whatever it's supposed to be. Well, there is nothing left but to hope that one day, that build will get leaked.
I Like to go on Sonic's path with Tails. The momentum you get from rolling into a ball down the halfpipe is insane. Getting the wall run on the skyscraoer to access this is tricky, but you can bypass the script by doing a small jump at the right time while the road is turning sideways - then you'll be running on the wall. (You can get there by flying backwards too, but going up the halfpipe from the bottom is wickety whack~)
I know this is late, but fun fact: the footage seen in the open your heart video is actually of Yuji Naka himself playing the level live at the event. You can compare the footage with this crowd recording for proof:th-cam.com/video/k8RXhhM8wIM/w-d-xo.html
4:58 - Actually there's more prototype footage of Tails' section of the level found in a Japanese commercial th-cam.com/video/8TOppiQghgE/w-d-xo.html It seems that there were less platforms and the glowing signs' placement is different
I found a weird platform placement in shadows final chase level that puts you in a 2D camera perspective but where it is in the levels seems strang and unfinnished can you look into that?
Hey speeps, have you ever though of using redream for dreamcast footage instead of demul? From what I have tried redream is much more optimized than demul. Maybe the switch would be worth it?
It's incompatible with Cheat Engine and it has issues with fading sound effects. I tried using it for the Kadomatsu DLC vid, but the best option seems to be using Demul without the BGM.
It's definitely not the most affected, Windy Valley takes that by a kilometer. SH is one that's documented really well due to it being shown off more than the others. The AutoDemo is made playable by accessing the level select, done by changing 8C794C90 (2C794C90 in Demul) to 0 on the title screen in cheat engine.
I'm convinced that now that the gaming community has ripped super mario 64 and world to shreds they're going after the sonic adventure series and classic sonic series next
I always liked how Act 3 felt like an open-world Sonic game.
Does it really? It's always felt very linear to me.
Act 3 was built for Knuckles more than Sonic, so it's certainly more exploration based than other areas.
iirc, somewhere in Generations' files theres a piece of code referring to an At Dawn remix, that was supposed to play after the Goin' Down section in Speed Highway act 2. But the remix was probably scrapped early on, because the song isn't in the files anyways.
Yeah
Yeah. such a shame sonic never made an open world game.....
only an open zone one
tails just slowly flying to his doom is something i thought i didn't need to see until now
S O N I K K U
Have you never played Sonic 2?
8:06 Me neither
Sonic Adventure 's development is like massive rabbit hole. I always find out more things I didn't know about it.
The development of Sonic Adventure 1 has always been a fascinating one that I've always wished to know more about, so thank you for this SPEEPS.
yeah, I love this channel
If you replace the last P and S with a D at the end it’s now saying Speed
I agree with you, Sonic Adventure has a fascinating past of early builds, DLCs and cut content
@@xevianantonehd5745 no shit
The sonic Adventure development is so crazy because of the shift. So many ideas.
The game was only in development for a bit over a year, so it's really nuts how much stuff they planned
@@andrewkos5560 Parts of the game can be traced back to Sonic 3D's saturn special stages (Nov 1996) so it's a bit more than that. Sonic Team's vacation happened at the end of the 1996 too judging by the dates on their photographs.
I remember reading through a old Usenet group about Sonic, and when his modern design was revealed, people thought that actually wasn’t Sonic himself, but instead a robot/clone. It’s pretty interesting..
I swear i've seen your pfp somewhere else.
Was it pop'n music? Yes I think so.
nehuen laje Yes, it’s Pop’n Music.
@@sainoshua-angel Cool!
I've been trying to get into the series, but practically don't know how...
I swear people thought that as well when Sonic 4 episode one released.
Let the green eye debates begin...
It's so cool the fact this game is over 2 decades old, and people are STILL finding things about it.
Hey lilac waiting on the freedom planet
Tell Carol and Milla I said hi
Did you say hi to Carol and Milla yet?
"I'm glad nobody watermarks rare footage anymore"
I saw that caption lol
I know the leaked screenshot was pretty grainy and low-res, but I think I actually like the darker lighting. Kinda reminds me of Bayview from NFSU2.
Also, I'm not sure why, but night-time cities in video games have always given me some sort of nostalgic feeling that I can't pin down. Especially when they have those low-res skyline skyboxes, or low-res window textures with the golden light inside.
To think, I've played this game over 20 years and there's still secret boxes that I've never seen. Watching these videos and playing rando has helped me see more.
Fun fact, at the bggginig when you first climb that building, get the speed shoes from the upper path, after that if you jump down and collect the second speed shoes (9:37) you will have infinite double speed.
Also I was expecting something about how the stage is different in SADX2004's Clip Setting (which just removes a few objects... I think)
I appreciate the hell out of that simultaneous glass break @ 6:53
"Also, cop speeders suck in the DC version"
Spitting FACTS here.
Man those images from the magazine bring back so much nostalgia. Seeing them again brings back all the excitement I originally felt when I first saw them and found out there was a 3D Sonic game in the works.
I was just getting bored, thank you for uploading at the perfect time.
I wonder if there's a mod out there for the PC versions of the game that restores the older character models of Sonic and Tails where their hands were rounded and it looked like a slight revision of their Jam models
It honestly would’ve been interesting if they kept the classic designs for Adventure. I like the modern designs but still.
There's a Dreamcastifying mod that comes with the one mod loader, so I'd check Game Banana and the likes to find out.
@@bsharpmajorscale Oh I have the dreamcast mods already. I also have the beta windy valley because I cannot go back to the bore that is the final version.
8:08 Tails was like: I need to go my people needs me
aight imma head out
*Tails died on the way back to his home planet
SONIKKU
- Tails 1992-1998
Died in New York
Sonic Adventure development is incredible. Hope one day someone finds the corresponding files for the broken stages
It's a dream for a million people in Sonic's community. I hope that we'll see this levels some day. Or..."SA1 Beta Mod", why not? Incredible stuff for imagination.
Well they already recovered the old prototype Windy Valley. What else is there?
One of the many things they can't find - Final Egg Old Prototype. Maybe I didn't hear yet and it have been recovered, but yeah - I hope that Final Egg Old Prototype will be discovered. It'll be one of the greatest discover for the community.)
@@ngcroude Is there proof that there's a prototype version of it??
@@aclstudios It might be, I think...If it's not exist - I'm dumbass.
Not many things get me more excited than a video analyzing parts of Sonic Adventure's development!
I've sometimes wondered why you were still able to re-spawn at the beginning of an Act upon either death or Pause > Restart, despite there being lampposts to spawn from. The game's stages were probably originally just one whole huge level and just streamed entire acts instead of taking a 2-3 seconds to load the next Act. That might be why those objects remain there on 11:27.
Also known as: the time Sonic broke the laws of physics.
"a lot of its light effects broke" is just SADX in a nutshell
I think this is the video I always looked for
It's almost like the game was built around Speed Highway first and the rest came together around it into one cohesive game.
0:38 The city is on fire!
8:06 see ya later, tails!
Ay this was super interesting, I'd love to see more of this! I really appreciate the effort you are putting in to researching and presenting your videos.
Speed Highway’s dawn theme is so emotional.
Very interesting about Tails flying to his doom in this stage of Sonic's Speed Highway.
thank you for this in-depth view about the history of speed highway, SPEEPSHighway
Love this. Your content is always fun but I'd love to see more videos in this vein.
I really like this style of video. Please make more like this in the near future.
SA1's development was so speedy indeed
HOLY CRAP! I remember watching that tech demo like 10 years ago and could never find it again
you make such interesting content, for such a niche group of people lol. I love this place
Man! I've gotta say! I do miss the Sega Dreamcast version of Sonic Adventure from the U.S.!
It’s amazing how much stuff about this game I learn while having known about its existence since before I can remember
Your vids are super interesting. it teaches me alot!
3:17
i was looking at the picture for 5 minutes straigh.
I realised that it is a blurry picture from early build of the game with sonic doing naruto run, taken from back.
The blurry blue stain thing is probably sonic's head, the 2 white triangle like things on the sides are his gloves and the giant white shoeshaped thing is of course one of sonic's shoes. the other leg might be at the front.
Incredible content as always!! I love your videos because you strech the image or use widescreen hacks, just 4:3 as the original, also without speeching makes everything much easier for you and to hear the game and pay more attention to the images and gameplay than with speeching, I loved it!
Keep up with this awesome content of SA1 and SA2!!!
SPEEPSHighway talking about Speed Highway. Apropos AND informative!
this is soo interesting to watch, i'd love to see more of this vidoes
Who knew Eggman kept all those secrets from us all this time
I stan SPEEPS videos 😤😤😤
Don't we all?
SA1's development, pre-release versions and both the JP/International releases are so fascinating in many ways. Speed Highway and some other levels like Final Egg got screwed over in the DX Port, especially due to the huge downgrade in lighting, as well as textures making the levels not as atmospheric as they were meant to be. Although the DC conversion mod fixes that, i can't help but feel like the original Dreamcast version is still better in some ways, like it not having that one useless speed shoes capsule in Amy's version of Twinkle Park, but i won't know if they didn't fix actual level design elements and item placement for sure unless i do comparisons between the 2. (Even then, the differences probably would be incredibly minor for the most part.)
When you showed that tech demo
I instantly got chills
I don’t think I can sleep tonight..
Oh, yes! I love this stuff. And I also love that... 21 years later, this game is still interesting inside and out.
Around 3:34, there's an audio jump... was something cut out of the video, SPEEPS?
Nah the song was about to end so I cut to an earlier part. That said, it wasn't that much longer before it stopped anyway lol.
@@SPEEPSHighway
Ah, okay, lol. I was just curious. Thanks for replying, btw. :)
the act 2 music in act 3 made me feel incredibly uneasy
0:20 weeeeeee
But besides Act 3 "At Dawn" and Windy Valley, there aren't any other levels we haven't seen before, right?
The only thing that remains to be uncovered are the old physics.
Those that could fit the old Windy Valley and the test maps. If that even exists.
In terms of massive overhauls, almost. Twinkle Park was changed when the cart stuff was added.
The object layout for act 1 in the autodemo suggests this was originally what it looked like before becoming the track:
info.sonicretro.org/File:SA_Tails_Unknown_Room.png
@@SPEEPSHighway oh wow. That looks so cool. And Amy having that ballroom, or whatever it's supposed to be.
Well, there is nothing left but to hope that one day, that build will get leaked.
this is slick af good job
0:56 This is one of my favorite tracks from Sonic Adventure
ohhhhh a video like this but for windy valley would be perfection
I Like to go on Sonic's path with Tails. The momentum you get from rolling into a ball down the halfpipe is insane. Getting the wall run on the skyscraoer to access this is tricky, but you can bypass the script by doing a small jump at the right time while the road is turning sideways - then you'll be running on the wall.
(You can get there by flying backwards too, but going up the halfpipe from the bottom is wickety whack~)
Cant Belive legends Never die
This is my Favorite Sonic stage of all time 😍💓💓
I know this is late, but fun fact: the footage seen in the open your heart video is actually of Yuji Naka himself playing the level live at the event. You can compare the footage with this crowd recording for proof:th-cam.com/video/k8RXhhM8wIM/w-d-xo.html
4:14
I read that so wrong for a second and was so confused.
4:58 - Actually there's more prototype footage of Tails' section of the level found in a Japanese commercial
th-cam.com/video/8TOppiQghgE/w-d-xo.html
It seems that there were less platforms and the glowing signs' placement is different
When a old games still a things to talk about
Because old games are more interesting than modern games.
0:21 *SONIKUUUU-*
Don’t you hate it when you go to watch a development history lesson on a Sonic stage and Tails’ Japanese voice shatters your eardrums?
I found a weird platform placement in shadows final chase level that puts you in a 2D camera perspective but where it is in the levels seems strang and unfinnished can you look into that?
What the hell, I would have never thought of jumping below that looping corkscrew.
Pannenkoek:Super Mario 64::ZZAZZTrainer:Pokemon::Speeps:Sonic Adventure
Are you ever gonna make a video on the classic Sonic model that was found in the game’s files?
I love your content : o
"Just like how Green Forest is in White Jungle in SA2"
excuse me what
th-cam.com/video/vnfFm1u15gE/w-d-xo.html
Next video
Windy Valley History and Secrets.
9:54 The "?" is referring to an Item Box with ? Rings. That confused me for a moment.
Do you have a folder of all the background images you have of SA1? Is there a link for it anywhere? The game looks really pretty.
2:54 SCUSE ME WHAT
I don't know if you went up and down and all around.
0:21 THAT FUCKING SCARED ME LOL
It would be cool if someone recreated the more earlier builds of Sonic Adventure
You mean like the Saturn prototypes?
@@Ronan34753 The builds that shown off in around 1998 where the characters were classic instead, of modern. Not the Saturn one.
@@MrHatsman Like the Sky chase character models you sometimes see?
Or are they exactly the same as the final, just with black irises?
Interesting.
I always felt like Act 3 was unfinished or never fully utilized, seems like there were a lot of parts they had to change for Knuckles
Im Looking foward to the beta of sonic adventure with classic sonic
I appreciate you.
What's the song at 4:06?
Twinkle Park Act 1, which is a remix of Puppet Panic from 3D Blast
how did u get that blue amy on ur photo of youtube?
2:54 classic tails?
Could that path test in Tails' version be following a very early layout? H m m m
0:18 - 0:23 I laughed so hard that I spat out my drink idk why
Hey speeps, have you ever though of using redream for dreamcast footage instead of demul? From what I have tried redream is much more optimized than demul. Maybe the switch would be worth it?
It's incompatible with Cheat Engine and it has issues with fading sound effects. I tried using it for the Kadomatsu DLC vid, but the best option seems to be using Demul without the BGM.
@@SPEEPSHighway that's a shame, hopefully those issues would be rectified one day.
9:26 How did you got 2 lives?
It cut to the other building when Sonic hit the box.
@@SPEEPSHighway Thanks for a quick reply!
This highway is clearly designed for fast blue hedgehogs and not for cars look at those loops
I wanna sleep with the physical embodiment of speed highway.
Um, Red Mountain is clearable in the AutoDemo.
I have a question, Speed Highway was the most affected stage during beta changes?
And how did you make to play stages in Autodemo?
It's definitely not the most affected, Windy Valley takes that by a kilometer. SH is one that's documented really well due to it being shown off more than the others.
The AutoDemo is made playable by accessing the level select, done by changing 8C794C90 (2C794C90 in Demul) to 0 on the title screen in cheat engine.
@@SPEEPSHighway Thanks!
I'm gonna try it right now :)
I'm convinced that now that the gaming community has ripped super mario 64 and world to shreds they're going after the sonic adventure series and classic sonic series next
The pc port of super Mario 64 says otherwise and world is still loved
BETA 64 SPEED HIGHWAY
The original ring layout was way better. Imagine the game we COULD have had.
up and down and all around
KIND OF EARLY SQUAD WHERE YOU AT?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?
12 MINUTES LATE SQUAD WHERE YOU AT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
SaRiK NoOoOo-
-Tails
i like the new avatar
8:33
0:28
Oof 90s people are weird