I should also say that this is a really good review and interview with an insider at Honda. No BS, no over-hyped, over-loud in-your-face approach. A serious review of a serious machine. Keep it up Steven and co, keep'em coming!
Great video Steve, and I was sorry to hear that you couldn't make it until the very last day due to airline flight issues! It was a great ride, great event, and I'm glad they got you to do your very own exclusive ride to test out these great Honda crew machines! Take care bud, and keep up the great work! Kapper
Being an owner of a 2021 1000-5 SE I love that they added this model. Now i only can hope that honda will come out with a non dump version of the 1000=5 with full size seating in the back.
I have a 2016 1000-5. Would my Walker Evans shocks, wheels & tires, Windshield, front and rear Mud Buster fender extenders, front bumper/winch, etc., fit on this new model? I have my machine about how I like it, so rather than buying more after market accessories, I would want to reuse them from my old Pioneer.
We reached out to Honda to find an answer for you. Sounds like some will fit and other won't. Here's what they said: "The bolt pattern for the wheels is the same from previous years so they should fit. The Front bumper mounts the same so it should bolt up. The new bodywork could impede those aftermarket shocks. Not totally sure. The winch probably wouldn't work as the wiring has changed for this new model. " Hope that helps!
@@jessewoody5772 I've had a 2x4 ATV before, and I ride in 2x4 95% of the time. But I'll give an example, your riding down a fire road I. 2x4, a bend comes along and you might need extra grip. Pressing the 4x4 button engages and you get the traction needed. Or your in a puddle and losing momentum, pop the button and keep it going. Having to stop and then engage means you've lost any momentum, which 2 things matter most, momentum and ground clearance. It's not a deal breaker for most, but the trails I have and how I drive, on the fly is i.portant for my riding.
Montana is beautiful. No doubt Honda makes good reliable products but the Pioneer is getting long in the tooth and is in need of some refinements. I had a 2015 Pioneer 700. Seating position was not very comfortable and the seats are not adjustable, and this carries over to the 1000. Foot cramps in relation to the gas peddle position were an issue. However, I love that dual clutch transmission. I looked at getting the 1000P2 but ended up with a Yamaha Wolverine 850 X2 instead. One thing I won't like about the Yamaha is the CVT maintenance which may have me wishing for my old Pioneer.
That's a legit question!! Honda calls it deluxe, but it's a stripped vehicle that will cost you thousands$ of dollars to finish. Windshields, enclosed doors, roofs, winches, wipers, etc. Get ready for another $10,000 if you really want a deluxe finished vehicle. Ask me how I know!!!
@@terryhenry8243 I recently tallied up a Honda Pioneer 1000 Deluxe with every box checked. MSRP for 2022 Deluxe is $18099. With all options including Heat But not Air $36574. I lucked out and found a new 22 gray Deluxe and snatched it up pronto. It’s not so much the price but availability. People are waiting many months to get their hands on one
@@jessewoody5772 Yea, well good for you. I own one too but I think it's crazy money to get one that's decked out. At your number I'll buy a 4 wheel drive truck next time, even if it's a used one. But, that's just me.
I will never get another Honda after my last Pioneer. It was literally the biggest piece of crap. The shock blew out two weeks after buying it. Had 2 recalls for the steering. Then the fuel pump went out 20 mi from civilization and had to be towed out. Got rid of it only being a year old with 600 mi and 80 hours. Got a Kawasaki and haven't had a problem since
I should also say that this is a really good review and interview with an insider at Honda. No BS, no over-hyped, over-loud in-your-face approach. A serious review of a serious machine. Keep it up Steven and co, keep'em coming!
Great video Steve, and I was sorry to hear that you couldn't make it until the very last day due to airline flight issues! It was a great ride, great event, and I'm glad they got you to do your very own exclusive ride to test out these great Honda crew machines! Take care bud, and keep up the great work! Kapper
Thanks man! Too bad we couldn't hang much on this one, but hopefully our paths cross again in the future.
Steve, In tow haul "IT HOLDS THOSE GEARS!" GREAT DESCRIPTION!
Thank you for a honest review. It was very refreshing and help full. I have decided to purchase this machine. Now let's hope I can find one!
Being an owner of a 2021 1000-5 SE I love that they added this model. Now i only can hope that honda will come out with a non dump version of the 1000=5 with full size seating in the back.
Looks awesome
Great video if I was in the market for a Pioneer I'd get this model over the smaller one.
Can you please do a video explaining the difference between the diff lock and the new I-force technology what are differences?
It's kind of amazing what these things can do, carry and haul. Puts many pickups to shame, with 50-60 HP. Crazy.
77 HP
Honda is always the best. The machine lasts longer and is reliable.
Beautiful scenery
Great vid. We wheel in the desert Southwest....lots of rocks. Does this rig come with good skid plates? Thanks.
Ironic that they put a tow/haul mode on the Pioneer but don’t have it on Honda Ridgeline that comes with hitch standard . Go figure Honda.
Doesn’t the ridge line have the same as pilot, snow mode, mud mode, sand mode....yadda yadda? There’s your tow/haul.
@@jessewoody5772 Yeah i guess you could use a mode that way.
Should be very popular with the farm and ranch crowd.
We think so as well. Honda focused a lot on utility.
And people like me that have a wife and 5 kids.
With that helmet on you sound like south park Kenny 😅😅😅
When do you drive it on low or high? Is there a specific speed for low gear 2wd?
I like it I wish it can come with hard doors and windshield
Looks a lot better than the boxy 4!seater
I have a 2016 1000-5. Would my Walker Evans shocks, wheels & tires, Windshield, front and rear Mud Buster fender extenders, front bumper/winch, etc., fit on this new model? I have my machine about how I like it, so rather than buying more after market accessories, I would want to reuse them from my old Pioneer.
We reached out to Honda to find an answer for you. Sounds like some will fit and other won't.
Here's what they said:
"The bolt pattern for the wheels is the same from previous years so they should fit.
The Front bumper mounts the same so it should bolt up.
The new bodywork could impede those aftermarket shocks. Not totally sure.
The winch probably wouldn't work as the wiring has changed for this new model. "
Hope that helps!
So does the 1000-3 NOT have the tow/haul mode?
What is the turning radius?
HAVE A GOOD DAY EVERYONE ✌️
How about you add illuminated switches so your not searching for the switches in the dark.
If you drive it in pave roads, should you set the gear in Turf or 2WD?
Turf
That big shifter for 4x4 selection, so do you need to come to a full stop to select?
Yes. Otherwise you risk damage
@@jessewoody5772 for around the property, no big deal, for riding trails, that's not great. Might be a deal breaker for my uses.
@@EC_ATV_Outdoors you would be surprised how capable 2WD is .
Unless your racing there’s no need for shift on the fly
@@jessewoody5772 I've had a 2x4 ATV before, and I ride in 2x4 95% of the time. But I'll give an example, your riding down a fire road I. 2x4, a bend comes along and you might need extra grip. Pressing the 4x4 button engages and you get the traction needed.
Or your in a puddle and losing momentum, pop the button and keep it going. Having to stop and then engage means you've lost any momentum, which 2 things matter most, momentum and ground clearance.
It's not a deal breaker for most, but the trails I have and how I drive, on the fly is i.portant for my riding.
@@EC_ATV_Outdoors If you get a Forest or Trail model they come with I4WD. This system will compliment your needs perfectly
What is the max speed on the ?
Is it shaft driven?
Montana is beautiful. No doubt Honda makes good reliable products but the Pioneer is getting long in the tooth and is in need of some refinements. I had a 2015 Pioneer 700. Seating position was not very comfortable and the seats are not adjustable, and this carries over to the 1000. Foot cramps in relation to the gas peddle position were an issue. However, I love that dual clutch transmission. I looked at getting the 1000P2 but ended up with a Yamaha Wolverine 850 X2 instead. One thing I won't like about the Yamaha is the CVT maintenance which may have me wishing for my old Pioneer.
Yamaha' s are bad ass. Just so you know the CVT belt has a ten year factory backed warranty i do believe. Cheers!
I’ll hold judgement until I see it person
We just bought one 2 weeks ago....
Tow Haul = Sport Mode 😉
Will they be offering a limited model with an enclosed hard cab with heat/ac to compete with the Polaris and can am’s?
The question you should be askin is: Will Can-Am and Polaris offer Dual Clutch Transmissions And Honda Engines to compete with Honda?
That's a legit question!! Honda calls it deluxe, but it's a stripped vehicle that will cost you thousands$ of dollars to finish. Windshields, enclosed doors, roofs, winches, wipers, etc. Get ready for another $10,000 if you really want a deluxe finished vehicle. Ask me how I know!!!
@@terryhenry8243 I recently tallied up a Honda Pioneer 1000 Deluxe with every box checked. MSRP for 2022 Deluxe is $18099.
With all options including Heat But not Air $36574.
I lucked out and found a new 22 gray Deluxe and snatched it up pronto.
It’s not so much the price but availability. People are waiting many months to get their hands on one
@@jessewoody5772 Yea, well good for you. I own one too but I think it's crazy money to get one that's decked out. At your number I'll buy a 4 wheel drive truck next time, even if it's a used one. But, that's just me.
@@terryhenry8243 pricing on everything is outta this world. Some of the Can am and polaris’ decked out come in over $40000.
Did I miss something or did we not get the numbers: HP, max towing, max payload, price???
Towing, payload and price are in the graphic at 0:46. Honda doesn't publish official HP, but you can look it up.
77 HP
2500 lbs towing.
About 1600 lbs payload including 1000 for bed.
&21000
The helmets are a little over the top
Is there A 2023 pioneer 3 seater available
Not yet. the 22s have all of the new upgrades that the 23 Crew has.
Very stout and much improved
I’ve never seen anyone wear a helmet in Montana 😂
To bad Honda couldn't think of putting a grab bar for the front seat passenger
Price fully loaded with heat & ac
No ac available. About $35000 loaded. Plus surcharge, destination, tittle and tax.
Six person sxs? Lmao. That fits more than 95% of pickups today. Just buy an old beater six passenger 4wd pickup and chop the top off haha
Haha. Do you really think anything that weighs 3-4 times as much as a sxs will follow it? LMAO. Low ground pressure is key
@@jessewoody5772 this thing weighs 2000 pounds. An old pickup can easily be found sub 4000. 3-4x? What are you smoking.
But is it a review if there are no mentions of it's downsides? More like a hype video.
Meh biggest benefit of the old pioneer was the short wheel base
It’s still available. Just another option here that’s all….
@@pajamatime5750 good to know
2000 pounds??? Weight is out of control.
I will never get another Honda after my last Pioneer. It was literally the biggest piece of crap. The shock blew out two weeks after buying it. Had 2 recalls for the steering. Then the fuel pump went out 20 mi from civilization and had to be towed out. Got rid of it only being a year old with 600 mi and 80 hours. Got a Kawasaki and haven't had a problem since