PAN THE ORGANIZER EXPOSED DRAMA- What I think!? - Support pan!
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Hi! A few of my viewers told me that you had made this video so I came to watch. I have to thank you for showing your support. It is much appreciated. 🙏🏻 You brought up great points in your video and it takes great courage to stand up to bullying. So I appreciate it. 👍🏻
I don’t mind if a person doesn’t like my personality. Nobody can be liked by everyone. But they can move on to many other detailing channels on TH-cam. There are many good ones. What I don’t appreciate are attacks to my integrity based on false accusations and not showing all the elements. That backfired big time on both that other channel and that brand. Very low level way on their part of trying to expose something where there wasn’t anything to expose. And now that channel is trying the same thing against three other big channels. Quite frankly unacceptable. He should focus his energy on trying to grow his channel the proper way instead of acting on anger and jealousy. That’s how I can tell a person will never become successful in life. Trying to bring down others just to lift yourself gets you nowhere. And that’s what he is doing.
So I want to thank you once again for this video. Very kind gesture and it’s nice to see there are positive minded people like you in the detailing community.
Continue doing what you’re doing. 😁👍🏻
Thank you so much 👍 I completely agree there's no need to bring someone down to make yourself grow. Kinda sad if someone needs to do that.
You were one of the main inspirations in my detailing and of course my channel and I felt I needed to show that support. So yeah people aren't gonna like everyone's personality but in my book I feel you're a genuine guy... Thanks Pan👍
You are a class act my friend.
hey guys, just wanted to drop a line here. I've only recently discovered both of your channels.
I haven't been much of online person, I'm old school.
but when i came across your channel Pan, i immediately really appreciate your work and sharing your knowledge and time for free with all TH-camrs. i think in the detailing world, one needs to have an open mind to always learn new things and try new products. that's how i found you guys even though i have been in the field for many years. so to those people out there that are haters, grow up. i hope you guys always know, honest people out there will always love you for the honest and kind people that you are. And i hope you guys don't get discouraged by people like that. So please keep doing what you do, you guys are amazing and millions of us love you! 👍😎🙏
Great video supporting a great detailer. OF COURSE Pan deserves to get paid for his hard work. Who in this world works for free unless you are volunteering for a purely charitable organization! Why would someone launching a product expect free or cheap advertising from one of the industries greatest experts?
I have learned a lot From Pan over the last year and I have spent a lot of money on products he has reviewed so companies would be smart to let him review their products.
I’m sure because of his following he gets overwhelmed from companies wanting their products in his hand.
Thanks for taking the time to make this video!!
I've watched a lot of Pans videos but never knew he was paid by the product companies. I bought a product because Pan endorsed it, but not happy with the product. Not Pans fault but wish I knew he was a paid spokes person. I'll think twice before I buy any other products he endorses. I understand celebrities do it all the time, but the difference is you know they're getting paid and are influenced. Not saying Pan is, just saying would have appreciated more transparency.
I think I have watched everything he posted in the last 2 years.... For me also, is the reason why I am busy going deeper and deeper into the detailing world. And his videos inspire me a lot to start my own small detailing job as a second income.
Awesome to hear that👍
I appreciate that Marius!
Hey Pan Love your insight into car detailing process and products. I have benefited tremendously as a result of your guidance. I love the fact that we see only the stuff you use that meets your expectations and how to use it well.
I've been a detailer for 30 years and I can honestly say that pan is knowledgeable and all his reviews are honest. I've used all the same products with the same results. Stop the hate...
Agreed👍
Whenever I ask pan a question he gives me help. That's what matters to me. I really don't care 1 way or another about his other business. Good luck everyone.
Credibility down the drain.
I fuck with Pan, I watched this guy wash his cars with so much enthusiasm I began doing the same thing. Once you have that many subs, companies will reach out, it's business.
Has pan ever gave a bad review on a product ?
I LOVE PAN! he is the most honest and realest one. Can't believe these brands would result to something so shady.
Very nice. Subscribed. The Pan Man is great.
But when you get paid for your videos how is that any different from a commercial? How can you expect an unbiased review about the product? I was impressed by his initial videos until he started promoting AutoZone products cuz they sponsored it. But some of the videos are still credible I guess.
Having the financial relationship isn't the issue, failing to disclose it is. There should be full disclosure of any financial relationship between the manufacturer and reviewer. End of story.
Well said, thanks for your sound perspective on this unfortunate situation!
Thanks for your explanation of this incident . And explain about endorsing a product . Yes , Pan is a the guru in the detailing world! Glad you made a response !
Thank you appreciate it👍
I don't have time for drama... I've watched about 5 minutes from a few YTubers for and against.
My biggest thing about a TH-camr who reviews or tests products, for my trust in viewership, is their transparency. Am I being told they are being paid for the review, purchased it themselves, or were supplied it for free? After that initial transparency, I can decide the video's credibility myself. Likely, knowing it's a paid review, I'll seek out an impartial test *as well*, because that YTuber's personality or video style has kept me coming back. Linus Media Group's videos are a great example. If I want 100% unbiased, well there's channels like Project Farm who only deliver that too.
What I don't tolerate is having the wool pulled over my eyes and being led to believe you didn't receive any incentive to treat that product... That's not unbiased. If you don't say you were paid to promote it, I don't want to watch your videos anymore. You're deceiving your audience at that point.
Going back to LMG, they make it simple: A sponsored video is third party. A showcase is a product given to them with talking points to introduce it... Basically an ad. And then they have reviews, which can scale from "we got paid, but we're saying our opinions... We may downplay some negative things (not omit), but In the end we don't sell a positive review, ever" to "I paid for this with my own money, expect nothing but unbridled honesty".
Pan is a good dude.
Pan the Organizer is a business and there is nothing wrong with that. He has helped me in a number of cases. I love the guy.
I’ve found Pan to be very helpful, his reviews very honest and backs it up with visuals. I’m a car detailing enthusiast and have improved my vehicle detailing skills, products and tools from watching his vast collection of videos. I also will try various products and then select a product based on it’s overall value and performance. As I proceed and add to my detailing process, I’ve been modifiying which products I prefer. From my direct experience, Pan has been nothing more than kind, honest, helpful and extremely knowledgeable!! Pan…thank you so much. @pantheorganizer
I also love Pan's videos. Great guy, great products and great content!👌
Agree👌
Thanks Darryl!
the thing is, pan seems to review products for companies that pays him, he don't go to the store and buy much, he asks for free merch and money before using anything. i don't hate him or anything but lets be honest, btw i'm going to go his channel now and look at vids of that ceramic thing because i might buy a bottle for my car since my current sealant is almost empty.,
Nice video . I think we all learned something from this event ...
Too bad- Pan seemed like a real guy, but getting $ for endorsing a product is a shame.
Yeah I just recently found him about a month ago and I love his videos I’ve learned so much! Good thing because I bought a brand new car and I don’t wanna screw it all up..lol Oh I forgot great review yes I agree with you!
Awesome critique done very professionally. Best wishes.
Is Pan a nice guy? yes, does he know his stuff about car detailing? heck yea, does that mean he's completely unbiased in his reviews? no.
So true, I recently began watching pan and saw his review on a turtle wax product and decided to try it out and loved it! Would’ve never even considered it had it not been for him
Thats awesome 👍
I agree with you for sure
Car Pro drop some loot on Pan over the years.
Honest mature opinion, yes, it's a private matter between him n product company, some people have no discernment..or there is agenda..
But he seems to be a TH-camr before a detailer. I want to watch someone who has a detailing shop and his majority income is from the detailing business not from money the product companies actually pay someone.
You are correct.
But the issue is, IF a detailer (YOU) is really successful with non-stop jobs coming in, and is genuinely busy being an honest proprieter, sweating his balls from sunrise to sunset trying to put food on the table, would you have the time to make such videos? Would you spend loads of hard-earned money to buy products and to advertise those products for FREE for the mftrs who dont know you and dont give a shit who you are?
😂😂😂
Its all about the MONEY!!!
Big money!!!!
(esp important for unemployed Americans who have to be “detailers” and thinking of ways to make big money).
How do you talk so fast and slow at the same time
Nice video
Its all about making MONEY😂
And money can be made in many deviously clever ways.
Dont blame Pan.
Blame it on FOOLS who love to watch and even believe such “review videos”.
Would YOU use your own money to buy so many over-priced coatings (example) and conduct such tests, and make so many of such videos while getting absolutely ZERO dollars from YT and suppliers?
If there was 100% no money involved, no number of subscribers, no of likes etc…nothing to chase after, only an unemployed rich fool with nothing better to do would make such videos for years😂😂😂
I never even heard of this happening to be honest
Long ago, Apex was also highly credible and professional. I loved his videos. He is a REAL detailer.
But alas, he has also fallen into the same money trap when he started making videos of any new products that comes out and much less on techniques. Its very obvious. He became a much less glamorous version of Mr Ammo….whom I already knew would soon peddle his own brand of products. In the US, it always end like this. Highly predictable. Look at the Dallas guy…same thing.
Its all about making fast big MONEY😂😂
People are greedy, if your a painter, or electrician making youtube videos people will send you products to use and promote..it's human nature. If company A sends me a paint brush to use and they offer to pay me for talking about their products your going to say it's a good product..now if I have 3 companies that sell the same product and they want me to promote theirs who's the one that's going to be the best the one that pays you more money right? That's human nature..why does pan talk so much about Turtle Wax? Because they pay him alot of money to,..we can't sit here and believe wow this product must be awesome pan always uses it..what's a paid endorsement it's an influencer. The company is using him to influence you to use that companies products..
Nobody send him a product he asked for a product and asked payment to give it a good review. He's not going to say it's bad he just wants 16g and will say what is told
Scammmmmm the advertiser!!!!
I stopped watching Pan because he’s sponsored by the products he promotes without an objective outlook. Some products are just not that good. When comparing to others. It all about money and all his reviews are positive because he’s being paid by the sponsor.
You think it's a private matter that all he does on TH-cam is lie?
Stop hating on my man Pan
I don't think he's too honest after watching a few of his videos. I was a subscriber.... now I'm not! Seeing that he bought a super porche and asking for donations from his so called fans is a low blow. If he could afford to buy a 300k supercar why ask for donations lol I'd rather put money into a needy cause. Not cool Pan! I'm not jealous of his new toy trust me. If you earn things honestly that's one thing, but mouching off of fans that's another. Thanks to his fans money to good use as he says in his live chat feed. he's driving one of the fastest cars on the planet. Easy money!!
That was something I didn't hear about actually. Thanks for sharing
"I don't think he's too honest"
What exactly was he not honest about?
So anybody who earns money and buys an expensive car is dishonest? Sounds like your just disgruntled you can't make one. He's never mooched off fans, he runs a business. If you were smart enough to run a business, you'd know also.
@@datsuntoyy That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. I run a business myself and I'm successful for your info. I don't run a business and mouch of my customers for money when I am making money buddy. That's called greed! Lol the world is so sensitive about comments it makes me laugh.
@@brianmi40 asking for 16 grand to review a product and to give it a good review is not honest
Do you think anyone pays $10-$16k for a bad review? Look up the word naive in the dictionary and you'll see a picture of your face. Companies will pay the moolah to have their products promoted by Pan the Fakeanizer, not to be given an average or poor review. Pan has a lot of subscribers and he knows the power he has and he's using it for his benefit but to claim that that amount of money is not going to have a major impact on the review is insulting my intelligence. Pan is going to be thinking about future revenue from said companies and he knows that if sales do well as a result of his review then there is a strong chance they will come back for more. I don't actually agree with the way Pan has been "exposed" but equally we as the public deserve to know the truth. If you knew that someone was being paid handsomely for reviewing a product you would rightly be sceptical about the review. And I don't buy the whole positivity thing either, if he's not reviewing a product honestly then he's not doing right by his subscribers who deserve an objective review at the very least. I have to say that he is a positive kind of guy, that's how he comes across and maybe he's careful about the companies he teams up with so as not to give good reviews about bad products. But I also don't think that companies will not want to see a review video before it goes live. Nobody is stupid enough to shell out that kind of money without wanting a handsome return.
Like I said my opinion and I haven't had a problem with products I've used from him. If you are sceptical about a product review I would recommend doing more research on it before buying the product. I feel that the products he uses are ones that he likes and backs.
bullshit. the guy makes a fine living with or without one more paid review. Not everyone wants to grab the cash like you do, and would care about what their viewers think.
He's reviewed DOZENS of products; go through them, which of them are CRAP and people are saying the products are CRAP?
Exactly NONE OF THEM.
nobody cares. Get a real job.
Did you get paid for this video???