Incompetent leaders sent Kargil soldiers to their deaths. Where is the accountability?

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  • Twenty five years ago this summer, the Kargil war ruthlessly exposed a series of blunders by military commanders and political leaders, who ended up sending hundreds of young soldiers to their deaths. The time has come to honour their sacrifice by ensuring accountability, not just delivering eulogies.
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  • @DrGeorgeChacko
    @DrGeorgeChacko 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Incompetent generals need to be held accountable.

    • @ChandranPrema123
      @ChandranPrema123 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Accountability within Army especially Air force needs to be a thing

  • @gunngator588
    @gunngator588 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    Captain Kalia who got tortured to death, His parents are still fighting for Justice and nothing has been done.

    • @anandpatel3069
      @anandpatel3069 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      And nothing will be done, till the Praveen Swami's of the Print keep blaming us for not being vigilant enough while acting as if what Pakistani's did was natural, reasonable or whatever. Praveen has Pakistani friends in London he needs to nurture. If he doesn't nurture them, he can't dramatically bring them on his shows, and soon his job will be less relevant. So Kalia be damned, Praveen's career and income are more important. Whatever mistakes our Army men made, the Army knows them well and has already taken corrective action. But our reporters? Their job matters more than India itself. This is how journos in true democracies are. Themselves, over everything else.

    • @anuragrajasingh
      @anuragrajasingh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@anandpatel3069 It is because of naysayers like you that '62 and '99 happened. Naysayers like you in the establishment, who don't want to call a spade, a spade that Pathankot & Pulwama happened. People like you simply don't like to be questioned, held accountable, and if someone does so, they automatically become anti-national or Paki collaborators. How convenient.
      BTW it is just because of democracy that you and I get to fight our petty wars as keyboard warriors over internet while real men are dying across the battlefields. So be a little grateful to this 'democracy'.

    • @Akhilkumar0024
      @Akhilkumar0024 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@anandpatel3069 lol its indian armys incompetence that led to the death of 500+ IA troopers , Pakistan is an enemy state its will do everything that an enemy is supposed to do, remember this aint the first time Indian army was caught with its pants down in 1965 too in the same place

    • @PTI_USA
      @PTI_USA 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@anandpatel3069 Praveen swami makes you go to sleep

  • @rogermilla2358
    @rogermilla2358 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Kishan Pal is one of the biggest villains of Kargil, screwed things up and then fixed subordinates to save himself from accountability

    • @sandeepr2087
      @sandeepr2087 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Kishan Pal, vs budhwar, Devender Singh etc. etc.,

    • @pbhanjdeo
      @pbhanjdeo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@sandeepr2087 not Davender Singh, he is considered an effective commander, who was fixed by other two.

    • @mverick5444
      @mverick5444 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@sandeepr2087are you serious? Brig Devinderiterally delivered results with the lowest casualty count (he said he could have avoided lot more deaths if generals would have listened to him).

  • @anuragrajasingh
    @anuragrajasingh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    So damn true. What I never understood about our country is the absolute lack of accountability whenever it comes to any lapse.

    • @adityabanerjee7145
      @adityabanerjee7145 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That lack of accountability starts with Rahul baba - Pappu is nepotism personified.

    • @howdoifindaname2743
      @howdoifindaname2743 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@adityabanerjee7145 pappu's party just won 99 seats with their funds frozen. Meanwhile mudiji couldn't secure a majority despite "securing" multiple opposition MLAs, ED, CBI raids etc etc. You tell me who should be accountable

    • @creativemaster007
      @creativemaster007 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@howdoifindaname2743funds were not frozen for whole election duration. 1 day of it and you congi pigs play victim card for year.

    • @Manash_77
      @Manash_77 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@howdoifindaname2743funds frozen 😂😂😂 if I say the things congress did in Assam 10 Janam nikal jayenge

    • @howdoifindaname2743
      @howdoifindaname2743 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Manash_77 "what about this other bad thing that other people did. That makes the bad things that we did not matter right?" The entire system is full of shit and clowns like you are responsible for propagating it. I have no sympathy

  • @aki78638
    @aki78638 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Captain Saurabh Kalia, and his patrol party of 4 JAT were brutally tortured.
    No one talks about their justice.

    • @MANOJKUMAR-cu2cc
      @MANOJKUMAR-cu2cc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes it was cruel for Saurabh Kalia to loose his life in the way he did and so many others like him. Every Job and individual does has a hazard attached to it some more and some less. There were so many doctors and nurses who lost their lives during COVID, but they all did there job despite losses.

    • @aki78638
      @aki78638 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MANOJKUMAR-cu2cc totally agreed, but what more cruel is, him and his team members, are denied justice totally!!!

    • @MANOJKUMAR-cu2cc
      @MANOJKUMAR-cu2cc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@aki78638 What Justice are we talking about ???? Do we think we can bring the perpetrators of his torture to justice?? It is war my friend and not some party where one goes for entertainment and gets knocked around. There is nothing fair in war, and that is why people die in wars. The real cruelty for a soldier is when he is forgotten two days after laying his life for his nation. Ask any man in uniform what is his biggest regret will be if died and you will get the same answer time in and out. So let us remember the fallen forever like British public remember their fallen every year by putting Poppies on their lapel every year on their remembrance day and celebrate all those who died in the line of duty. For Let us all hold our heads high and commemorate our fallen heroes who gave their lives for our country and our future.

    • @aki78638
      @aki78638 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MANOJKUMAR-cu2cc you are right, war is where soldiers fight.
      But Captain Kalia and his men, were out on patrol, much before, the war started. They were surrounded by pakis, after Captain Kalia and his men, ran , out of ammunition.
      They were brutally tortured, and killed.
      They had no fault.
      They were only doing their duty.
      Remembrance, that we definitely do.
      Go to any cantt, in and around India.
      Martyrs of every war are remembered.
      But justice is another thing all together.
      That they deserve, and should get!!!

  • @voicification
    @voicification 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Excellent punchy episode. It’s been too long and we need accountability for 1962 as well as 1999.

    • @kornalbabua2000
      @kornalbabua2000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      1962- China
      1999- Pakistan.
      happy now?

    • @Akhilkumar0024
      @Akhilkumar0024 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kornalbabua2000 2020 galwan too

    • @Sonia_Godfray_Hindu
      @Sonia_Godfray_Hindu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Akhilkumar00241947 Pok and 1962 Akchai chin too and the secret contract between CPC and INC

    • @Akhilkumar0024
      @Akhilkumar0024 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Sonia_Godfray_Hindu 1947 wasn't the fault of IA, the govt was indecisive and waited too long should have given the permission to take out Pakistanis, 1965 too IA was again caught unaware, 1962 was a collective failure, the alleged CCP Cong MoU wether is of any substance remains to be seen, unless Modi is too much of a pussy to arrest RaGa and make his disclose the agreement

  • @jaadu1-y1v
    @jaadu1-y1v 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    A brutal war of attrition is happening on the northern part of the earth & instead of ordering tons of artillery from Kalyani, TATA, L&T our 'Import Army' is busy looking for the ways thru which it can somehow find a loophole and order Israeli artillery. Keep stalling these desi induction in the name of moon-mars field trials & when the balloon goes up army will come up with the statement ' we fight with whatever we have'. Mind you it was the same artillery which was used on the Kargil front but our border doesn't end at kargil, it stretches to thousands of km. These same indolent officials at MOD or Defence are no different then the Indian bureaucrats.

    • @adityabanerjee7145
      @adityabanerjee7145 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And your point is....

    • @indian9632
      @indian9632 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@adityabanerjee7145 support local defence industry

    • @harvbrisk
      @harvbrisk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bhai WhatsApp University se padhna band kar de , asli college vagra chale ga !! Kuch bhi bakwass likh raha hai
      Army ka tujhe A nahi pata , gyaan chodi kar raha hai faltu ka

    • @harikrishnant5934
      @harikrishnant5934 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Mr. Saurabh... Israel🇮🇱 is the only nation always in war... So their weapons are better than any other... They always improve their weapon..

    • @nousername1587
      @nousername1587 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Israel has superior weapons

  • @aashish1703
    @aashish1703 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Lt Gen Hari Mohan Khanna, Lt Gen Kishan Pal & Maj Gen Budhwar should have been sacked & convicted rather than being decorated. God save the Indian military & the Indian state. No lesson learnt.

  • @njain1983
    @njain1983 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    While the armed force deserve the respect it gets as they are the reason our country remains safe but we need to stop treating them as people/organizations who cannot be questioned. We tend to consider it blasphemy whenever anyone questions the armed forces. We shouldn't forget that people in the forces also come from within our society, which is full of inefficient, corrupt and megalomaniac people. While we give due respect to the armed forces, we shouldn't hesitate to hold them accountable as well. E.g. few months back when terrorists martyred around 5 of our army men who were sleeping in a makeshift camp, the army initially falsely portrayed that those Bravehearts died valiantly fighting the terrorists and they also inflicted casualty on the terrorist. Much to our embarrassment, truth came out when the terrorists shared their GoPro video footage showing the truth was far from what IA claimed. People within and close to the forces will share many such cases of deceit and corruption prevalent in the forces.

    • @MARKCRASTO
      @MARKCRASTO 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Absolutely true.

    • @harvbrisk
      @harvbrisk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I completely diasgree with you, you can held army accountabile for what?? For ppl like you who sit in their AC rooms and write comments without knowing a thing what our armed forces does for us.
      Secondly you are saying our society is full of incompetent and corrupt ppl which is true but these ppl can't join army and recruitment process is one of toughest to get in.
      If you have so much to say then why didn't you joined the army !!! So kindly shut up and don't ask accountability for our saviours

    • @njain1983
      @njain1983 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@harvbrisk The army recruitment process is able to filter out people with corrupt mindset? Your comments shows who between the 2 of us is far removed from reality? Get out of your non-AC room and talk to people who have dealt commercially with Armed forces e.g. some vendor who has installed telecommunication devices or delivered any other service, they will tell you how in many occasions (if not every) they have got the project only after giving kickbacks. Just because you are a jingoistic keyboard warrior dont assume everyone is. I dont rely on Whatsapp university for my knowledge and I dont need a certificate of patriotism from a nobody like you. You can disagree with me all you want. Be my guest.
      Also, I gave an example of not so kosher behaviour from your 'not to be questioned' army, am sure you can come up with a justification even for that or atleast can indulge in some Whataboutery. No?

    • @lookintoit4537
      @lookintoit4537 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@harvbrisk By that logic, we cant question politicians, babus, police etc because we're not experts of their fields. Of course we dont understand the highly technical aspects of war, but sometimes you dont need to be an expert to call a spade a spade. Again, I have the utmost admiration for our armed forces, but nobody is perfect. And its ok to question everybody.

    • @DrGeorgeChacko
      @DrGeorgeChacko 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@harvbrisk everyone has to be held accountable, even the armed forces if they err and are incompetent. There are bad apples in all organisations and not all armymen are perfect ....

  • @rajanjoshi2985
    @rajanjoshi2985 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    This is one of the best videos I have seen on print.

  • @arunsingh-kq2is
    @arunsingh-kq2is 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    It was a total loss of Ground Intel ...poor Armchair Generals had to do something....led to heavy casualties....some one should be held accountable.

  • @TXSrinis
    @TXSrinis 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent analysis. Fully agree with Praveen. Way past due - true reckoning of failures at the top levels that led to so many sacrifices and the unfortunate victimization of several capable frontline commanders!! That is the real tragedy of the post-Kargil analyses. More pats on backs for the staff officers, with no accountability for horrendous failures of leadership!

  • @MSingh-jq5me
    @MSingh-jq5me หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Brig. Surinder Singh & Brig Devinder Singh were humilated by system led by Lt. Gen. Kishan Pal & Maj. Gen. Budhwar. To hide their mistakes, both of these generals made scapegoat out of young competent singh brigadiers.

  • @victor256in
    @victor256in 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Gen. VP Malik and Gen. Budhwar were rank incompetent people who should have been dismissed. Gen. Malik gave Naravane type ‘headmaster in uniform’ vibes.

    • @rahuldeans5428
      @rahuldeans5428 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Who would you have replaced them with ? I don't recall anyone who had combat experience at a divisional level. A divisional commander would take time to get to know the formations under his command - particularly which of them had the ability to continue difficult attacks.

    • @kornalbabua2000
      @kornalbabua2000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      your vibes dont matter..chutiy@

  • @KirenKK-te7pb
    @KirenKK-te7pb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    In war you sitting in the sidelines or a deskjob are not qualified to have opinionated views on soldiers and their command who have to resolve reality of adversity which is not predictable. Even soldiers in contact have a different perspective and perception of what you call fog of war. Soldiers are sent to apply feasible solutions and determine and respond/ react to real situations. The country was surprised and it fought it's way out of the surprise. Do not do a disservice like a house keeper on the basis of ifs and buts.

  • @siddhanti
    @siddhanti 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Swami, this is one of the best presentations made by you, script,articulation,narration, ..... all flawless. Keep it up!

  • @mukutbhandari134
    @mukutbhandari134 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lack of accountability is pervasive in all sections of government departments. I dont think anybody is ever fired for being incompetent or inefficient

  • @mailtorajrao
    @mailtorajrao หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice recap.

  • @ashwanivaid3298
    @ashwanivaid3298 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Worst home min advance, worst govt on security issues, of vajpaye

  • @sa1ti9sh60
    @sa1ti9sh60 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Do you have a similar episode of IPKF's activity in Sri lanka? I would like to view it.

  • @prasnair72
    @prasnair72 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Praveen, excellent article. Can you please have an episode on Point 5353? I remember you had written an article several years ago, but cannot remember much of the content. It would be great if you can do it.

  • @lithoshealthcare8507
    @lithoshealthcare8507 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wonderful work and insight ...

  • @shivalikapatial2554
    @shivalikapatial2554 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So sad to see such news pieces going unnoticed

  • @pushpendergusain4262
    @pushpendergusain4262 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks to Swami for exposing the various weaknesses in Indian security system that resulted in Kargil crisis.

  • @ChaudryShehryarYounis
    @ChaudryShehryarYounis 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Brilliant analysis

    • @kornalbabua2000
      @kornalbabua2000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ghanta

    • @amithabv1060
      @amithabv1060 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@kornalbabua2000kya ghanta 😂

    • @kornalbabua2000
      @kornalbabua2000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@amithabv1060 tera tattas...tan tan tan

  • @anarkela7162
    @anarkela7162 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    India blundered costing precious lives of jawans,belatedly deployed Bofors,Bajpai was busy in reciting poem a p m without any will power not near to Modi at any scale He had blundered by inviting Musaraf

  • @neerajbali7
    @neerajbali7 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    An excellent analysis. If we do not learn from our history, we may be (as is famously said) condemned to repeat it.

    • @MANOJKUMAR-cu2cc
      @MANOJKUMAR-cu2cc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What do you think Indian Army functions with people like you are suggesting at the helm.

  • @anti_que_lover
    @anti_que_lover 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When one cant beat the Indian Army on the battlefield, try couch potato media pushers.
    As a PIL was never filed on this, do file one now, instead of jiggery puggery.

  • @gollahalliguruduth7785
    @gollahalliguruduth7785 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Print Anchors are so brave knowledgeable

  • @anilbhagwanani1497
    @anilbhagwanani1497 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    lovely you nailed it

  • @inamati
    @inamati 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Everyone should be accountable, be it elected leaders or defence officers or RAW or intelligence officers. Just like we appreciate good results,bad decisions and logic behind that needs to be discussed and debated. How can we aspire to be superpower when the truth is hidden. Dont we have Satyameva Jayate written on State Emblem?

  • @alokgupta4200
    @alokgupta4200 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can the Agniveer scheme result in similar gaps to enable Sino-Pak to undertake another misadventure?

  • @ajaygmaharaj
    @ajaygmaharaj 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Praveen Swami pacca SSB mein reject hua hai 😜😜😜

  • @ashwanivaid3298
    @ashwanivaid3298 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a shame.

  • @sumandutta4834
    @sumandutta4834 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Israel doesn't spare its military or intelligence community from accountability. But accountability must also include political leadership and bureaucracy.

  • @ndhrtd3624
    @ndhrtd3624 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    6/6 retrospective vision in hindsight, based on selective references

    • @kornalbabua2000
      @kornalbabua2000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      true...storytellers,selling thier stories with no clue of military experience.

    • @amithabv1060
      @amithabv1060 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tits you hear this. The top brass rejecting the on ground inputs from their own troops. How is that selective refrence

    • @kornalbabua2000
      @kornalbabua2000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@amithabv1060 it is..make toilet and dont do tatti on utube

    • @anuragrajasingh
      @anuragrajasingh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@amithabv1060 It is selective because some 'enlightened' ones amongst us still can't believe that even the armed forces are made up of ordinary men and are prone to biases and mistakes as much as any other organization. They also don't quite understand the meaning of term 'accountability' and would rather happily live in the pre-colonial era where the masters and related institutions were not answerable to anyone except the Crown.

    • @amithabv1060
      @amithabv1060 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kornalbabua2000 not accepting the mistakes and brushing then aside is even more harmful

  • @sudhirverma1041
    @sudhirverma1041 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Listen gyaani. Name those that are to be held accountable we all know them. Secondly, by the same token D day Landings were like butchering young men in wholesale

  • @NeelanjanBandyopadhyay
    @NeelanjanBandyopadhyay 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Indian generals must give up their "bloody civilian" mentality.
    Look at Russo-Ukraine war, multiple admirals and generals have been transferred and retired, especially on the Russian Armed Forces side.

    • @victor256in
      @victor256in 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ‘Bloody civilian’ mentality is a Pakistan Army trait. Not Indian … you got your countries mixed up

    • @rahuldeans5428
      @rahuldeans5428 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I blog about the Ukraine war (DeansMusings) and follow the Russian press. Generals were moved, after a few months, when the effects of multiple mistakes became apparent. They don't get moved because they didn't act on 1 intel report.
      Its also not a simple exercise. Ukraine replaced their armed forces chief with someone who turned out to be worse (the same with US generals in Afghanistan).
      An army that has not been in real combat does not know how generals and the systems supporting them. will perform in real combat.

    • @kornalbabua2000
      @kornalbabua2000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rahuldeans5428 good. glad to see a professional citing true figures

    • @kornalbabua2000
      @kornalbabua2000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      you must be UPSC,SSB failed aspirant.

    • @NeelanjanBandyopadhyay
      @NeelanjanBandyopadhyay 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@victor256in Never wanted to join the erstwhile British India company Army.

  • @hokagesama-r1z
    @hokagesama-r1z 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    LETS REMEMBER WHICH PARTY WAS RUNNING THE GOVERNMENT AT THE TIME

  • @speedbird109
    @speedbird109 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    solution?

  • @deepjyotimitra2217
    @deepjyotimitra2217 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At least our previous government acted upon their initial mistake and fought a war.
    Our current government doesn’t even acknowledge that china has occupied Indian territory.

    • @bibhudattaardu9711
      @bibhudattaardu9711 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      You govt acted on 26/11,.,cward ganja piya kiya ??

    • @Nnss-yb6vb
      @Nnss-yb6vb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where are you dump
      China didn't occupied our land

  • @harvbrisk
    @harvbrisk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    completely diasgree with you, you can held army accountabile for what?? For ppl like you who sit in their AC rooms and write comments without knowing a thing what our armed forces does for us. Secondly you are saying our society is full of incompetent and corrupt ppl which is true but these ppl can't join army and recruitment process is one of toughest to get in. If you have so much to say then why didn't you joined the army !!! So kindly shut up and don't ask accountability

    • @reachnivi2007
      @reachnivi2007 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bro. You are out of touch with reality. Army is part of our society. It is also corrupt. No one is above scrutiny. Unless we introspect and improve, we will probably end up like our ancestors who were brave but ineffective in stopping wave after wave of invasions from west.

    • @MitrasenSinghJi
      @MitrasenSinghJi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are you in the Army?

    • @harvbrisk
      @harvbrisk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MitrasenSinghJi no I'm not

    • @reachnivi2007
      @reachnivi2007 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If we don't question the army, and efficiency and effectiveness, we will end up just like our ancestors. They were brave and did immense sacrifices, but lost battle after battle leading to colonisation and 1000 years of slavery. We need to question our army and buerocracy. We can't afford a military defeat.

    • @harvbrisk
      @harvbrisk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@reachnivi2007 our ancestors never had really big army and moreover we were never one country , we were divided into different kingdoms. That was main reason for colonization. Don't relate two completely different things together without knowing facts

  • @BilluBadshah-kh1gd
    @BilluBadshah-kh1gd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Enjoying Alcohol

  • @sudiptodas1313
    @sudiptodas1313 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is so beautifully put…hope this becomes a headline in the next few days … who will answer for the 527 brave soldiers who laid there life because of the fault of these good for nothing army generals…

    • @kornalbabua2000
      @kornalbabua2000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No one. An army and its soldiers is for the purpose of defending the countrys borders. This means from time to time when war is set on us due to nature of war soldiers become casualties. Chutiy@ hai kya tu?

    • @adityabanerjee7145
      @adityabanerjee7145 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Did Congress answer for the loss of Ladakh, let alone Pakistan - don't lose your sense of proportion....tomorrow's headlines my ass

    • @sudiptodas1313
      @sudiptodas1313 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@adityabanerjee7145 i don’t give a damn to your statement so kick in your ass as well.. also 62 war glaring faults should be brought out as well start of militancy in 89 as well Kashmiri pandit exodus and holocaust government failures.. this should also come as big big headlines..

    • @sudiptodas1313
      @sudiptodas1313 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@adityabanerjee7145 your comment my ass..

  • @vijaym2906
    @vijaym2906 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello Praveen,
    I think you are pointing to an area of responsibility but missed another important set of people owing responsibility.
    Nearly 600 men were lost - not just because guard was let down allowing the intrusion - but mainly due to our govt's need for coffins with martyrs - to win an election.
    How much armor that Pakistanis had in Kargil that spooked us to respond with such hastiness. Was election not in their mind when they started the practice of sending the coffins of the martyrs to their home towns. My understanding is - it was not done prior to this conflict.
    That actions still cost us valuable human lives - as indian army fears a repeat of Kargil in Siachen and not interested to vacate Siachen without ironclad guarantees from Pakistanis.
    Atalji, Mr Jaswanth Singh, Mr George Fernandes - all three of them much loved by us for various traits, And Gen Mushraff - much hated by many - share at least two things in common. They had main roles in Kargil war and sadly they spent a long time on their death beds. May be, it was God's way of exacting accountability,

  • @jahanzebkhan7879
    @jahanzebkhan7879 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ponit 5353 and some top peak stil Pakistani controls

  • @Abdullah_ibn_al_muhammad
    @Abdullah_ibn_al_muhammad 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Karan thapar's dad was a good army chief

  • @MANOJKUMAR-cu2cc
    @MANOJKUMAR-cu2cc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pravin INTENTIONS are what by producing this video. He certainly with his record does not stand for the integrity and unity o the nation. He sensationalises every news item to feed his ulterior ego. Yes in every war there are numerous mistakes and I am sure even in this case there were. No war from wars of Ottoman Empire to world wars and conflicts in which India has participated have been free of mistakes. Accountability is essential but not in the manner in which Mr Swamy is asking for. Who is Mr Swamy by the way. He has no experience of war and neither is he some sort defence analyst, far from it. He latches on to the tit bits he learns from here and there and then provides conjectures about them.
    It takes years of attrition on the field to be good war correspondent and not by sitting in air-condition rooms of the print you become one. This is the sad truth of these Neo journalist and sadly it is the gullible masses who are fed this trash every day in the name of news.

  • @PTI_USA
    @PTI_USA 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This guy makes me sleep...worst presenter on the entire youtube.

  • @bibhudattaardu9711
    @bibhudattaardu9711 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Boss, what accountability we are talking. In this country Gandhi and Nehru who has separated coutnry and killed million of Hindu & Muslim in name for partition , but they called father and Bharat Ranta are not they account for the blood shed.. Fooling Indian by elite English speaking gang was normal . but with IT boom middle class able to understand the facts. Today we need answer and fake narrative of garibi hato. etc.

  • @VinayDutta-kw5yj
    @VinayDutta-kw5yj 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You don't know much , wonder from where the narrator has got his facts which are 50 percent Wrong.

  • @kornalbabua2000
    @kornalbabua2000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Presenter master clown Mr P Swami, Why are you wearing watches on both hands? very busy? one shows IST and other GMT?

    • @kornalbabua2000
      @kornalbabua2000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ah..the one on right hand is one of those fancy things...it shows your BP, time,g@@nd ka temperature and all that.

    • @sourovdebratul3075
      @sourovdebratul3075 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The one on right hand is a smart watch

    • @kornalbabua2000
      @kornalbabua2000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sourovdebratul3075 so,its not a watch?besides giving his Bp and tullu and g@@nd ka temprature i think it also gives time

    • @kornalbabua2000
      @kornalbabua2000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sourovdebratul3075 that gives only his g@nd ka temprature?or also time?

  • @DipakBose-bq1vv
    @DipakBose-bq1vv 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Vajpayee wanted to be another Nehru. Rather than attacking other parts of Pakistan as Shashtri did in 1965 Vajpayee restricted the war within Kargil and that was the reason for so many deaths of our soldiers.

    • @prabhjyotsinghsaini4336
      @prabhjyotsinghsaini4336 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not crossing the LOC was a brilliant plan! Coz now the Pakis (and international pressure) cannot force a ceasefire half way through. Became we were not fighting Pakistan. What we do on our sovereign land, no one can interfere. This took long time n more lives, but ensured our victory

    • @rehnedojankekyakarloge5384
      @rehnedojankekyakarloge5384 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      wdym ? india was already sanctioned at that time. we couldn't manufacture enough weapons and machinery to sustain an offensive. going into pakistan meant more losses. A possible US intervention on pakistan's side was also possible.

    • @MitrasenSinghJi
      @MitrasenSinghJi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh really? Shastri Ji had to ask fellow countrymen for a day's fast to support food shortage in 65, and he still made Ayub Khan dance on his tunes. Vajpayee was just enough nice man for newspapers and a very bad leader on all fronts.

  • @LukeCloud-rh5rz
    @LukeCloud-rh5rz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Why not call your fellow peers like Barkha Dutt out while you are at it? Who were basically broadcasting our soldiers positions to the enemies. The press like to act as the gatekeepers of freedom of speech as though the right to drop information without confirmation is their god given right. Indian press has always been the fourth pillar of democracy for some other country but never for India herself.

  • @DrGeorgeChacko
    @DrGeorgeChacko 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The reason why the Pakistani army could take over the Indian army posts at high altitudes and thus start the kargil war was that, the armymen usually retreat from their high altitude posts in winter and go back only after a few months.
    What most indians dont know is that there were similar neighbouring indian posts at the same altitude that the Pakistanis were never able to occupy as they were held by BORDERMEN(Indian Border Security Force) and not army men. The bordermen never abandoned their posts even in deep winter and thus these were never occupied by the enemy. If the borderman could hold his post in winter why could the army man not. This also needs to be enquired into...

    • @harvbrisk
      @harvbrisk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Kuch bhi likh raha hai, army ka tujhe A nahi pata , bakchodi kar raha hai, pseudo intellectual 👏 😆

    • @mohanshirali5779
      @mohanshirali5779 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      We did not have the required infrastructure to maintain our presence in those regions in winter. Minus 30 to 50 degrees requires special clothing and protective tents with heating . Soldiers die due to frost bite rather than any enemy attacks. Now this lacuna seems to have been filled with all latest available gear for our soldiers.

    • @DrGeorgeChacko
      @DrGeorgeChacko 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@mohanshirali5779
      do you think the bsf gets better gear than the Indian army. They always get 2nd rate equipment compared to the army. Still they manned their post.
      It was not the lack of equipment but the unauthorised withdrawal of troops by the local commanders , from what I read without the defence ministrys permission. That is a huge blunder.....

    • @MANOJKUMAR-cu2cc
      @MANOJKUMAR-cu2cc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DrGeorgeChacko BSF does not man the borders north of Jammu my friend it is the Indian Army which mans the 750 Kms of Loc. I think you are confused as it is Pakistani army vs ours on the LOC and not BSF.

    • @DrGeorgeChacko
      @DrGeorgeChacko 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@MANOJKUMAR-cu2cc
      hi. I am a BSF kid and my dad was a bsf officer. Fact is that international border is manned only by bsf and loc by bsf and army both. There are loc posts that belong to bsf and army separately. Do a good research on this in detail and you will understand. ...

  • @Rizwan-d3v
    @Rizwan-d3v 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Correction ,peace process between A.B vajpayee & Nawaz Sharif not parvez musharaff.

  • @danydany3974
    @danydany3974 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    So we are no different than the Russians .I am no fan of West, but they do take care of their men.

  • @SwapanChakravarthy
    @SwapanChakravarthy 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As a commentator you have missed naming the incompetence of VP Maliik to lead the army much like the many generals who followed him for example Gen Navarane. Too much of hype on their "gallantries" shown on their chest but inferior when it comes to decision making often blaming the bureaucratic leaders in Delhi to be the culprit. An incident is locally observed and reported, the action should be initiated by DGMO and the decision shall taken to hold or to move into action. That is how Galwan happened. For nearly 2-years prior to 2020, China blocked patrolling and we waited in indecision. Not until the killing of a Colonel and his men, that enraged Ghatak Special Force attacked the Chinese making FM Wang publicly state that India needs to control its troops. We were meek in response.

  • @manojtandon7332
    @manojtandon7332 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just one question, how did you get so much classified information?

  • @ahirbhairavorai7793
    @ahirbhairavorai7793 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is not the Incompetent leaders. It is incompetent INDIA, with a population of 1.6 billion and that boast of 6th largest continent and 3rd largest army in the world, buckles and caves to Pakistan that is size of UP. India that always looks for other to solve their problem. India that has take it easy which is another word of irresponsibility, that lead to this. So for this I say , Mr.Swamy and PRINT, the finger is pointing to you, me and all the Indians.

  • @aol6419
    @aol6419 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Congress had always ignored defence preparedness.
    That is the key reason behind kargil issues.

    • @hasin5020
      @hasin5020 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Moron the war occurred during bjps rule

  • @nishchalgogate601
    @nishchalgogate601 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Politicians were not at fault

  • @gkakella
    @gkakella 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There's no dearth of such arm chair experts, who are not accountable in the first place for their unverified and motivated reporting. To be treated with contempt that it deserves.

  • @rajivramanjani8706
    @rajivramanjani8706 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Brilliant piece Praveen. Hope the right people from the military forces and the government see this and make the right corrections

  • @ShaileshKumar-io2zn
    @ShaileshKumar-io2zn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anti national Proxy war news 😂 the print title means what Kargil army should not fight?

    • @prashantbhamare4967
      @prashantbhamare4967 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Our soldiers, our children have died, not a laughing matter, think as if your children are soldiers 😢

  • @arshaddurrani3885
    @arshaddurrani3885 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Peace moves between Vajpayee and Nawaz Sharif( not Musharaf)

  • @DevenderSingh-gc3ch
    @DevenderSingh-gc3ch 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sir, I am beginning to love your analysis. Well delivered. Thank you.

  • @arunavaroy5889
    @arunavaroy5889 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Our current dispensation is making our army lean and God knows what will happen if manpower is required

  • @devendrasinghdalal2900
    @devendrasinghdalal2900 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Utter nonsense. Can you, even now, suggest better line of action as per your appreciation for evicting the enemy from such heights. Stop accusing the highly professionals and just stick to your AC office analysis which actually is like Rahul Gandhi's commentary without a head or tail.

  • @avneet12284
    @avneet12284 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    💯

  • @VijeDerm
    @VijeDerm 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Praveen Swami hats off to you for this episode. Definitely responsibility should be pinned on certain Senior and Senior most officers for this debacle and failure to heed to the intelligence agencies and subsequently leading to deaths of hundreds of our Soldiers. Our Armed Forces need to streamline and strengthen the way our Exercises are conducted in Letter and Spirit, rather than making it a picnic and trekking spot carried by private agencies.

    • @kornalbabua2000
      @kornalbabua2000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yes,yes our army is having a ball of a time on exercises..from desert safari to mountain trekking to walks in the jungle. The Navy is a sailing club and air force a flying club...saala chutiy@ couch potato @VijeDerm

  • @AK-xd6uu
    @AK-xd6uu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about IPKF? Why don’t you talk about its multifaceted failure of intelligence, planning, execution, politics and retrieval and further humiliation of the bravehearts.

  • @ajaygmaharaj
    @ajaygmaharaj 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have noticed his hatred for armed forces earlier also ,
    He never points out what kind of third grade equipment is given to our armed forces as compared to adversaries,,,,
    Indians pilots still flying MIG 21 and these so called defense journalists never will point out their political masters from whom they seek favors

  • @rajivlather8918
    @rajivlather8918 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It was BJP-led NDA then; and Galwan happened under NDA II led by BJP again. People of India will never learn; somehow for them modi is a hero.

    • @alburj1
      @alburj1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Correct. But we did win in the end. Any idea about 1962.. or IPKF... How did those end? Who got punished?

    • @rajivlather8918
      @rajivlather8918 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@alburj1 So then why not discuss what happened in 1970-71 ? How Pakistan was split into two ? Independent India's only real victory in a war; who planned, engineered and implemented it ? Wearing fancy, comical dresses while visiting frontlines and using propaganda is not going to hide the truth. It would be good to go and talk to the families of those who died in Galwan valley and seek some answers. Moreover, during all this time, our negative trade balance against China keep on increasing. In a sense, we are financing the build up of China's military to be used against us. Why don't you visit the website of the Indian ministry of trade and commerce, and see for yourself the way China has been benefiting from last ten years of BJP rule.

  • @udaymukherji4527
    @udaymukherji4527 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's unfortunately quite common in India for military incompetence to be hidden behind so called heroism of those sent to their deaths

  • @zarvanali888
    @zarvanali888 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Also tell on how many peaks in Kargil are still in Pakistani control. Including the highest peak in the region.

    • @kornalbabua2000
      @kornalbabua2000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      None..zero.

    • @xixi1x34
      @xixi1x34 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pakistani delusion has reached at such a extent now they thinking they have lumber 1 army in the world, from delulu thinking of defeating US and Soviets in Afghanistan and from winning all the wars the India. If you would have spent more time studying the actual facts and books(which I don't blame you it's quite rare from Pakistanis) instead of believing in your 3rd class ISPR propaganda lol.

    • @MARKCRASTO
      @MARKCRASTO 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      One ​@@kornalbabua2000

    • @zarvanali888
      @zarvanali888 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kornalbabua2000 No bhai including the highest peak in the region Pakistan is still sitting on six peaks.

    • @zarvanali888
      @zarvanali888 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kornalbabua2000 th-cam.com/video/zBASYNEcyX4/w-d-xo.html Your own media has reported about point 5353 several times.

  • @existen1075
    @existen1075 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We need accountability of all the wars not just kargil...

  • @kornalbabua2000
    @kornalbabua2000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    6.16 .."troops of the 5 Para Regiment spotted....blah,blah" . This shows this clowns depth of knowledge of army units. Ive never heard of 5 Para Regiment in the IA so far. Regiment kya hota hai aur Battalion kya hota hai pehle pata kar le.All retrospective internet knowledge sitting in Delhi by a ghantu.

    • @amithabv1060
      @amithabv1060 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      1.That is how it is spoken
      2 what is retrospective knowledge in this 😂?
      3 the most brilliant military tacticians are always I'm scholars

    • @AlokAsthana1954
      @AlokAsthana1954 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think sir, you’re simply biased against him.
      In general terms,,he’s right, you’re wrong.
      In any case, Isn’t it a non-issue?
      That is why our army remains completely unaccountable.

    • @kornalbabua2000
      @kornalbabua2000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@amithabv1060 its not spoken that way dhakkan...update yourself

    • @kornalbabua2000
      @kornalbabua2000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AlokAsthana1954 its very much accountable...but not to disgruntuled characters like you and internet armchair amateurs like this clown.

    • @kornalbabua2000
      @kornalbabua2000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@AlokAsthana1954 print keeps deleting my replies ..so balls to you.

  • @theimrankhanshow163
    @theimrankhanshow163 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Get out Hindu army from kashmir