Great balanced review, demonstrated by an obvious real world experienced c172 Pilot, while flying in a very realistic way. A few points, that may not have been emphasized enough in the Mods documentation, but were hinted at, and left for the pilot to discover. (1) Flight Model IS quite heavily updated. (2) Instruments are simulated very realistically now, following almost exactly the full manufacturers spec. ie (a) Clock has all the time count up. down function, EXACTLY as per manufacturer's manual (b) ADF has correct up/down counters with alarms (3) Instruments are analogue/mechanical, not digital, and their needs vibrate according to engine rpm etc. (4) Electrical system is 100% rewired form the original Asobo, to be exactly as in the POH - service manuals, ie Ammeter does NOT show started motor current, but does show starter relay current. (5) Battery (a major plane resource) is accurately simulated, with variable "battery Internal Resistance" as function of charge temperature & age. This results in appropriate battery voltage drop on high loads, with effects like lights dimming when high current starter motor is run. (6) Full hardware cockpit compatible with addon hardware instruments software gauges, This plane is purposely NOT called Study Level, but an Enhancement - depending on what is meant by Study level, there are no true Study level planes in MSFS !! Inspired by this video, maybe in the next update, the Developers will include addition information, Title "SPOILER ALERT", for those do not desire to discover themselves, true level of the realism of this enhancement, N6722c ( WB-Sim development team)
Thank you very much for the kind words, N6722C and indeed the information! I glad you felt that the review was balanced and realistic - that is always my aim. I like the idea of leaving a few surprises for the customer but, if I may, I definitely think it’s worth emphasising the flight model updates. Those changes weren’t apparent to me when reading the product info / documentation but, are a huge selling point for the addon! Either way, congrats on your work! Yourself and the team have done an excellent job with the enhancement - I really enjoyed it : ) Cheers and all the best!
My absolute pleasure, Boris! Superb work on the soundpack - very immersive indeed. I do hope we might see a few more in the future ; ) Many thanks and all the best! : )
The creator of the sound pack was very helpful when I had an issue. I bought the WB sim 172 enhancement from JF and then purchased the Boris audio works from the MSFS market place. I later found out this combination doesn't work for the new sounds to work on the WB sim version of the aircraft or at least it didn't then. Sound Creator fixed this for me with a working version so was grateful to them. Sounds are really good easily the best I have heard within the sim and the WB sim enhancement really makes flying the 172 more interesting with the save state.
That’s great to hear NG (it’s always brilliant when a dev offers top-notch customer service, as well as a quality product). I’m really glad you’re enjoy both mods / the 172! Happy flying and all the best : )
Thanks for the precise assessment of this combination, certainly makes it the 172 you want in your hanger. Also I for one certainly appreciate the hours you spend in production of your videos.
As someone who is (trying to) learn to fly in Sim, I really appreciate your taking the time and effort to make this video. It's a boon to my learning. I enjoy the vids on more advanced aircraft but competent flying of them is still a ways in the distance. Anything that increases the fun of flying the simpler GA aircraft is a great find, thanks for your revealing such to us. (Also appreciate your choices of interesting airfields, trips, etc. And your overall articulate and literary presence, a welcome change from the ho/ha of some other channels. Just IMHO) Did I forget to mention excellent choices of music, nice touches like the atc background, external shots/reprises of takeoffs and landing, and I'm certain I have forgotten some other elements that I appreciate. Thanks!!!
If it’s GA tutorials that you’re after Art, you might find this series useful (if you haven’t come across it already): th-cam.com/play/PLaI08doFZ-LIK-PAyRGF7NDZDM88FpOVp.html&si=-l8D74UugsiUeq_q Either way though, I’m really glad you enjoyed this vid! As I mentioned during the flight, I rather enjoyed getting back to basics also. Thank you very much for the kind words (once again). I do spend quite a bit of time and effort not only recording the video, but also planning the flight, choosing the music, selecting the shots etc. As cheesy as it is to say, it always satisfying when someone notices / appreciates it! Many thanks and all the best : )
i love this 172, it flies like a real cessna 172 that you see in flying clubs, it doesnt feel like a rocket on take off roll. its a good add on, and the sound pack is just amazing with sorround stereos or sorround headsets, makes you feel like youre actually there.
GREAT flight and those two enhancements really add to the quality of a default aircraft. I very much enjoy your choice of airports for the flights. They always seem to be appropriate to the aircraft and the selected flight. Thanks again and looking forward to the next one! !! !!!
Cheers Mark! Yes, the addons are totally transformative for the default C172 and make the aircraft a really enjoyable option in its own right. Thank you once again for the kind words; I certainly try and put some thought into my flights ahead of time and Fall City was a great little find (I just finished recording another flight out of there actually haha). Many thanks! Catch you again soon : )
Great as always. As a PPL student on the 172M this mod is extremely usefull for procedural training. Still waiting for the A2A model. Hopefully they transfer their C172 to MSFS
Thanks very much Dennis, I’m glad you enjoyed it! I would love to see a return of the A2A C172 also (to be fair, I’d love to see a return of the entire A2A lineup haha). Best of luck with the rest of the PPL! Happy flying : )
Haha. That’s really nice to hear Admistt, cheers! My absolute pleasure on the video(s), I’m really glad you’re enjoying them to such a degree : ) Many thanks for watching and all the best!
Thank-you so much for this demonstration of the “WB Sim Enhancement” with the “Boris Audio Works Soundpack”. This is again your Stateside sports fan, Guerry. I think you did a great job of demonstrating the features of these addons. In light of several comments I’ve read so far, and this is by no means is a criticism, I think there is a saliently positive aspect to this addon. If you are one who loves the Cessna 172, I believe you will truly enjoy this addon. You should seriously consider purchasing it, but do not act impulsively. There will be other hosts with their reviews of the product. Before making your final decision to buy, I highly recommed viewing their evaluations. Again, this is something truly worth your time to investigate if you find the Cessna 172 your choice aircraft. Personally, I am not a fan of the 172 for other than it being a tool for the interim step between the Cessna 152 and purchasing a complex/high performance aircraft. The Cessna 172 is perfect for developing one’s instrument skills once the 152 is mastered. I made the decision to transition from the 152 to the Carenado Cessna 182 RG for several reasons. Chiefly, it was so I wasn’t spending all day to fly a fraction of the distance that I would in the 172. Consequently, once mastering my flying skills with the 152, it was time to work on more demanding VFR and IFR procedures. So no matter how aesthetically pleasing this addon might be, I cannot fathom investing in something that is essentially a ladder rung for further developing my MSFS experience. Rather than having developed the enhancements for the 172, I really wish WB Sim would have put its effort into a Carenado and/or other company’s addon product. WB Sim did a phenomenal job on the 172, and for that I praise it. I mention Carenado due to it being among the best for recreating accuracy in visual modeling. But in all fairness. I do not consider Carenado the best for other functionality. But, it is good enough for my purposes. I leave you with this: If you are one who loves the Cessna 172, then go for it brother/sister! Buy this addon and deeply immerse yourself into your flights to a degree not currently available with the MSFS standalone. We are all here to have fun! Again, thank-you ITB staff for producing your video review. Please, keep churning your succinct yet informative reviews out!
Thank you very much once again, Guerry! Valid advice, undoubtedly. Although, I can’t believe you might suggest that my opinion isn’t the “be all and end all”, when it comes to flight simulation : P WB Sim have done a great job with the C172 and (in case you weren’t aware) also offer up a similar upgrade for the C152 (I know that was your airframe of choice, at least until recently). I am very much hoping that WB Sim, or someone else, will attempt the same thing with some of the Carenado products; as you say, Carenado’s beautiful aircraft seem like obvious candidates. Thanks again for the kind words and I shall be sure to thank my staff (if my daughter, popping in every now and then with a new collection of toys for daddy, counts as “staff” ; ) All the best, sir!
My pleasure Phill, I’m glad the video brought back some good memories. I spent a chunk of my PPL on the C152. When I then moved over to the C172, I felt like I was clinging onto the aircraft for dear life haha! Cheers, all the best : )
The sound from the outside while taking off was rather odd wasn't it? Sounded like the RPM didn't really reach max and was fluttering quite a bit, but that wasn't the case obviously. Otherwise those addons seem really nice! I do however have all my GA needs covered by the Comanche, once flying that one nothing really compare anymore :-)
Once you go A2A, you'll be disappointed with anything else. When I finally build a new PC, FSX is going back on. I had hundreds of dollars with all of the A2A.
Haha, cheers Mike! I heard so much about the PNW, back in the FSX / P3D days, but don’t think I ever really checked it out (I didn’t own the Orbx scenery for it); I can certainly see what all the fuss is about - a beautiful area! I’m glad you enjoyed the video. My pleasure and you take care as well : )
Hello Dave, Thanks very much, I’m glad you enjoyed it! You can actually use pretty much any C172 repaint (default or otherwise) with the WB Sim version, although it does take a little bit of tweaking to get them working properly. The easiest / “cheat” way, is to download a WB Sim compatible repaint, then download the repaint that you actually want, simply swap the desired repaint textures into the WB Sim repaint file and then drop the modified WB Sim repaint file into your Community folder. I hope that helps a little. All the best! : )
Just putting this out there. There are 2 aircraft that I would absolutely love to have in the sim those are the A7 Corsair ll and the Beechcraft starship
I think the initial rough running was because you didn't lean the engine on the ground. These fuel injected IO360s don't like to be run rich on the ground, with the mixture lever left in.
Quite possibly Arthur; I’ve never flown a fuel-injected aircraft (well, maybe once, now that I think about it haha) and I’ve never operated far from sea level so, leaning on the ground was never really a part of my operation (at least with any of the flight schools that I trained at). I tend not to do things in the sim, that stray from what I have done in the real-world but, it’s great to see that WBSim have modelled the engine to such a degree! Cheers for the info! All the best : )
Ahh, well that’s actually another addon I keep meaning to try / showcase, Atharoon ; ) WB Sim had some input into the JPL mod also, so the two aircraft share a little bit of the same heritage I guess. Cheers, all the best!
I don't know what to make of sound packs for GA planes. Back 40-odd years ago when I was doing my PPL, we didn't have headsets. We had a single mic/speaker on a cord which was hung on the panel unless you were talking. ALL you could hear once you started the engine WAS the engine and it was so loud that you had to shout to be heard by the guy with whom you were bumping elbows. So no switch sounds, no wheel rolling sounds, etc. Just the engine, the radio (often barely heard), the stall horn, and the control rods clattering in pre-stall buffeting (the latter 2 probably only because you were at low power at the time). Nowadays, everybody's got noise-canceling headsets so you hear NOTHING at all unless somebody's talking on the radio or intercom using an "inside" voice. The ONLY planes in my experience where you can hear every sound made by every switch and part of the plane are gliders, and you can use your "inside" voice in them without needing a headset.
Hi Bullethead, As with many things sim-related, the conundrum you mention tends to divide people haha. Personally, I’ve always preferred soundpacks that lean more towards “immersion”, rather than accuracy. For example, I’d rather hear the afterburner kick in, or the switch click, because both of those events would give the pilot some sort of feedback. Since there are a lot of sensations that we can’t replicate in the sim, sounds tends to be the next best things (and can be used to trick one’s brain into “feeling” something, at least to some degree). That’s my take on it anyway. . . I hope you’re keeping well. All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Agreed. In some cases, using sound as a substitute for touch is useful user feedback to let you know what you were trying to do actually registered with the game. Especially for things you can't see out the window or on displays. There are also some sounds which should be there in most planes but usually ain't. Such as the sound of ice being slung off props into the fuselage side. I've only ever heard this in the Trislander and it really gets your attention :)
Haha, I didn’t know that about the Trislander - nice touch! I wish the Islander would get another update to the same standards; I enjoy a quirky aircraft, but the Trislander is just too much of an eyesore for me XD Cheers, all the best!
What are you using for head tracking?( I see in your hardware listing you are using Track Ir:)) Would like to try Tobii Eye Tracker. The video is just excellent. Already had the sound pack, but will pick up the WB Sim Enhancement after watching this.
Hello Mike, I am indeed still working with TrackIR. I have considered the Tobii on a number of occasions but, TrackIR has been working just fine for me - “if it ain’t broke” and all of that. . . haha. Cheers! Im really glad you enjoyed the video and I do hope you’re enjoying the excellent WB Sim enhancement also : ) I hope that helps. Many thanks for watching and all the best!
Hi FTLOG, All of those functions can be accessed from the menu, integrated into the ADF radio (as outlined in the video, on the return leg of the flight). I hope that helps. All the best! : )
Thanks for asking this, I was about to ask the same thing. Haven't managed to move this damn Cessna yet but I'm sure I will after fiddling about with the ADF radio.
Great review as usual. But I have this mod and there is a very important feature that you didn't cover and that's the settings hidden in the ADF.. realism setting.. static features like chocks and tie downs are all accessed via this ADF.. also there is a significant bug in the 530/430 and radios you have to install the PMS50 and the patch which is provided in the zip folder.. I will say the flight model improvement alone is worth the purchase but the Auto pilot has a few bugs and your sorta limited to their liveries but it's a fun GA still..
Thanks very much, Paul! Actually, I did cover the hidden ADF menu options hehe (on the way back towards Fall City). I didn’t spot the bug with the 530/430 but thanks very much for the info, I will give the fix a go. It’s funny, I saw no mention of any flight model improvements on the sales page, but it seems that the flight model has indeed seen some work (I would have thought that was a prime selling point!). Re the liveries, you can actually use any C172 repaint from Flightsim.to etc, with a little bit of tweaking (it can be a little bit fiddly, but the livery I used in this video, was not intended for use with the WB Sim mod). Cheers! Happy flying and all the best : )
I know what you mean, David; MSFS can still look a little bit cartoony at times but, it’s still the best we’ve got haha! To be fair, the sim can also look superb under many conditions : ) All the best!
Actually the flight model is tweaked from the default. It was not at release due to file encryption, but 1.05 added flight model tweaks to the list of changes. Exactly what WB would have to comment. I would also add the JPL C152 from revisions 2.xx was taken over I believe by WB, so same modder, but free.
Thanks for the info Eric, very much appreciated! As I didn’t see any mention of such tweaks, in the sales description, I had assumed (incorrectly) that the product was still using the default flight model. It’s great to hear that WB Sim fleshed our the enhancement that little bit more. I did see that WB Sim are now mentioned alongside JPL, with regards to the C152 mod. I keep meaning to try out the modded C152 and that’s another very good reason to do so! Cheers, all the best : )
I just noticed that the FS 172, even though a 172S, has the older styled McCauley Wheel assemblies opposed to the Cleveland Wheel assembly. (noted by the "spoked" design of the McCauley wheel, opposed to the smooth of the Cleveland. Thank you for indulging my spreading this useless fact. :P Well, your shelter hanger is now nice and clean :D Wow! That engine was surging, at least in the exterior view. The interior sound is at least to me not right at all. It seems they recorded mostly the buzz of the propeller, but in the 172 you can hear the exhaust note, along with the valve train, especially at low to idle power. This sound pack seems to lack that, or at least how this recording came out on my system. Yea, there is definitely a lack of exhaust not, or the very rapid "puff" of the exhaust. The pre stall sounds are actually really good, though the stall horn is lacking. (The cessna stall horn I liken to the sound a cat makes when squeezed :P). Mind you though I fly with old David Clark headsets, so this may be simulation with noise cancelling headphones. (looking at the other comments I am thinking the sound issues for me are indeed my sound system, which would be no surprise.) The wheel bearing sound on roll out is a nice touch.
Hi Pythos, I shall have to take your word for it, haha : P It is worth noting that unfortunately, my replay tool did cause some peculiarities with the sounds, though only externally (hence the “surging”). The interior sounds whilst not perfect, certainly brought back a few memories for me (though granted, it’s been many, many years since I last flew a C172 haha). I guess sound recording and perhaps even more so soundpack creation, are a bit of a black art ; ) Cheers!
@@IntotheBlueSimulationsI'll bet it was the playback / replay tool...but also one other thing. I recently discovered my cat had sent one of my speakers off the area it resides, so that was making all my sounds odd. LOL
I believe you’re correct, Patrick. I didn’t notice any issues myself, but I didn’t really make use of the Garmin units, in fairness. From what I gather, a few tweaks will be need to be made by the user, in order to get the GNS530/430 working correctly. I hope that clarifies things a little. All the best! : )
Hello, I have this WBSim Cessna 172 Enchancement and all good except if I try to manually start it? I have shut the plane down once open and running, but for the life of me no matter what I do I cannot get it to restart? Checking all is set correct numerous times....but still not able to restart. All the System saves etc are off. I open the msfs2020 Cessna 172 and I have no issue with turning off, and then restarting.....not the case with the Enchancement? Any ideas? thanks
Hello Trent, The ATC is real-world recordings, which I’ve then edited into the video. There is actually an ATC chatter app available for MSFS though, if that’s the sort of thing you’re after : ) I hope that helps. All the best!
Hi TK, In this video, I was using SoFly’s “Weather Preset Pro”; it’s a little payware program, that gives you a number of custom weather presets within the sim (including this one). I hope that helps. All the best : )
Hi JM, It’s demonstrated during the video (on the return leg to Fall City). Such options can be accessed via the ADF radio menu : ) I hope that helps a little. All the best!
Where did you find this classic enhancement pack for the engine realism? I am on Xbox Series S and I am searching everywhere on the marketplace and struggling to find it.
Hello Scotty, Unfortunately, I think the WB Sim enhancement, may only be available to purchase directly from the Just Flight website (that would make sense, if you have been unable to find the addon). Sorry about that. I hope that clarifies things. All the best!
Hi Peixe, All of those functions can be accessed from the menu, integrated into the ADF radio (as outlined in the video, on the return leg of the flight). I hope that helps. All the best! : )
@@soquinhodoralf you need to turn the master battery and avionics bus 2 on, power up the ADF radio, click the display, then rotate the small knob twice. Then click the red text to remove the exterior items. If you still can't figure it out, have a look at the manual. It's described there, with pictures to follow.
Hi Fook, The classic C172 is included with the “Deluxe” version of MSFS. The WBSim mod, is a further enhancement on top of that. As mentioned during the video, you will need the default C172, in order to run the WBSim upgrade. I hope that clarifies things a little. All the best! : )
Now if I didn't have the Comanche I'd consider these mods, as they are clearly very good. The PA-24 is just so far ahead of any other GA aircraft in the sim though, in my opinion, that there's little point, as I'd hardly use it haha. Nice video, sir. Hope all is well!
That’s fair enough Plucky, I’m sure many would share the same opinion haha. The Comanche is the king, no doubt, but I tend to like flying a of variety of aircraft when I’m simming so personally, I’m happy to fly “lesser” addons for the sake of interest - at least until A2A can bring us a few more of their works of art ; ) I’m glad you enjoyed the video! All good I my end thanks, I hope the same is true on your end : )
Hi PlaneGuy, Thanks very much, I’m glad you enjoyed the video! The livery is free and available over on Flightsim.to (just search the registration and you should find it easily enough). This particular livery, is not natively compatible with the WB Sim mod however so, you would need to convert it (there are tutorials available regarding how to do this - I believe the product manual perhaps outlines the process also). If memory serves me correctly, the black cockpit colouring, is included as part of the WB Sim mod : ) I hope that helps a little. All the best!
Hello Milesy, The ATC is real-world recordings, which I’ve then edited into the video. There is actually an ATC chatter app available for MSFS though, if that’s the sort of thing you’re after : ) I hope that helps. Cheers and all the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Think I found it, FS2020 Real ATC mod by stick and rudder simulations. I'll give it a try, ATC chatter is one of the immersive things missing in MSFS.
Can some please provide the links to these wo upgrades? or have I missed some thing. Many thank for a great video.. Have learnt so much.. Keep up this amazing work. Robert 👍
Hi Mr S, Correct. Although, I believe WB Sim would come up against the same limitations as Black Square; unfortunately devs aren’t allowed to alter certain aspects of the default aircraft and then monetise them - doors seem to be one such area (for whatever reason). Cheers, all the best : )
Thanks very much Smirky, I’m really glad you enjoyed the flight! The WB Sim Enhancement, is available from the Just Flight website (and only from there, so far as I am aware). I hope that helps. All the best! : )
Hmm, that’s interesting Gabor; I don’t recall having similar issues with the default C172 (to be fair, I hadn’t flown it in a long while, so perhaps something got messed up after a sim update?). Nothing seemed untoward with the aircraft / WB Sim mod; as you can see during the video, I was able to get the aircraft turned around in some reasonably tight manoeuvring areas (though I didn’t try turning at higher speeds, in fairness). I can do a little bit of further testing, if it’s of use / you’re considering picking up the mod? All the best : )
Hello Nigel, Well, yes and no haha. MSFS’s AI groundcrew, are forever walking through the prop arc (and various other parts of the aircraft). Of course, giving them a “shout” isn’t going to achieve anything, but I suppose it still pays to check, if one really wants to be “realistic”. I just shout “clear prop” as a bit of a running joke, as much as anything else though ; ) All the best!
I installed the Boris Audio Works Sound pack for the 172, and it worked great. I installed the WB Sim Enhancement, and I lost all my Boris sounds. Did anyone else have this issue?
Hello Mike, I’m wondering whether you perhaps need to install the WB Sim enhancement first? Perhaps, the WB Sim mod is overwriting your sound files upon installation. The two mods should work together just fine. . . I hope that helps. All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thanks, I talked with Boris, and he walked me through the procedure, moving and renaming a certain folder over to the community folder. Works perfectly now.
Haha, well I must admit Jasper, I’m not sure I’ve ever heard it actually! I shall have to give it a listen at some point (I’m generally a fan of retro rock, so I’m sure I’d probably enjoy it : ) Cheers, all the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations you are living in a less beautiful world when you dont know the dark side of the moon haha. Let me know what your opinion is and thank me later🤙🥳
Hello Daniel, The airfield is “Fall City”, it’s a payware airport from Orbx. I’m afraid I can’t remember the ICAO code, but it’s down in the video description. I hope that helps a little. All the best!
Hello Joel, The ATC is real-world recordings, which I’ve then edited into the video. There is actually an ATC chatter app available for MSFS though, if that’s the sort of thing you’re after : ) I hope that helps. All the best!
Why are some people still buying planes when the new simulator 2024 is on its way ! It is a waste of money when many of the planes are free and some want to pay for new ones.C172 is of very good quality.I have not bought anything for MSFS 2020 because the premium version has all you ever need..Many simmers have wasted a lot of money on pay ware!
Hi Leif, Well, many payware addons offer a lot more complexity that some of MSFS’ default offerings (something that a lot of simmers are looking for). Personally, I would say that it’s only a “waste”, if the addon isn’t bringing the user enjoyment. Further to that, Asobo has confirmed that any addon sold through the in-sim Marketplace, will continue to be compatible with MSFS 2024 so, newer purchases *should* still generally have a lot of longevity (only time will tell, whether or not Asobo’s statement turns out to be true). To each his own, of course and the base version of MSFS does certainly have a lot to offer. Happy flying and all the best!
Terrible stock airplane. No window operation, NO SUN VISOR, no doors, etc, etc..and those are simply aesthetics, really. The main problem with this plane is there is no way to tune the nav 2 frequency, making the nav 2 CDI completely useless. Prove me wrong, I'm all ears. Want to fly a realistic Cessna, check Carenado's C182RG ll. Completely blows awày the stock Skyhawk.
Great balanced review, demonstrated by an obvious real world experienced c172 Pilot, while flying in a very realistic way.
A few points, that may not have been emphasized enough in the Mods documentation, but were hinted at, and left for the pilot to discover.
(1) Flight Model IS quite heavily updated.
(2) Instruments are simulated very realistically now, following almost exactly the full manufacturers spec.
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(a) Clock has all the time count up. down function, EXACTLY as per manufacturer's manual
(b) ADF has correct up/down counters with alarms
(3) Instruments are analogue/mechanical, not digital, and their needs vibrate according to engine rpm etc.
(4) Electrical system is 100% rewired form the original Asobo, to be exactly as in the POH - service manuals,
ie Ammeter does NOT show started motor current, but does show starter relay current.
(5) Battery (a major plane resource) is accurately simulated, with variable "battery Internal Resistance" as function of charge temperature & age. This results in appropriate battery voltage drop on high loads, with effects like lights dimming when high current starter motor is run.
(6) Full hardware cockpit compatible with addon hardware instruments software gauges,
This plane is purposely NOT called Study Level, but an Enhancement - depending on what is meant by Study level, there are no true Study level planes in MSFS !!
Inspired by this video, maybe in the next update, the Developers will include addition information, Title "SPOILER ALERT", for those do not desire to discover themselves, true level of the realism of this enhancement,
N6722c ( WB-Sim development team)
Thank you very much for the kind words, N6722C and indeed the information! I glad you felt that the review was balanced and realistic - that is always my aim.
I like the idea of leaving a few surprises for the customer but, if I may, I definitely think it’s worth emphasising the flight model updates. Those changes weren’t apparent to me when reading the product info / documentation but, are a huge selling point for the addon!
Either way, congrats on your work! Yourself and the team have done an excellent job with the enhancement - I really enjoyed it : )
Cheers and all the best!
I really appreciate you using the soundpack!
Please do more sound packs!!
My absolute pleasure, Boris! Superb work on the soundpack - very immersive indeed. I do hope we might see a few more in the future ; )
Many thanks and all the best! : )
Your soundpacks are top notch!
The creator of the sound pack was very helpful when I had an issue. I bought the WB sim 172 enhancement from JF and then purchased the Boris audio works from the MSFS market place. I later found out this combination doesn't work for the new sounds to work on the WB sim version of the aircraft or at least it didn't then. Sound Creator fixed this for me with a working version so was grateful to them. Sounds are really good easily the best I have heard within the sim and the WB sim enhancement really makes flying the 172 more interesting with the save state.
That’s great to hear NG (it’s always brilliant when a dev offers top-notch customer service, as well as a quality product). I’m really glad you’re enjoy both mods / the 172!
Happy flying and all the best : )
Thanks for the precise assessment of this combination, certainly makes it the 172 you want in your hanger. Also I for one certainly appreciate the hours you spend in production of your videos.
My pleasure once again, Runman and thank you very much for the kind words! Much appreciated and all the best : )
As someone who is (trying to) learn to fly in Sim, I really appreciate your taking the time and effort to make this video. It's a boon to my learning. I enjoy the vids on more advanced aircraft but competent flying of them is still a ways in the distance. Anything that increases the fun of flying the simpler GA aircraft is a great find, thanks for your revealing such to us. (Also appreciate your choices of interesting airfields, trips, etc. And your overall articulate and literary presence, a welcome change from the ho/ha of some other channels. Just IMHO) Did I forget to mention excellent choices of music, nice touches like the atc background, external shots/reprises of takeoffs and landing, and I'm certain I have forgotten some other elements that I appreciate. Thanks!!!
If it’s GA tutorials that you’re after Art, you might find this series useful (if you haven’t come across it already):
th-cam.com/play/PLaI08doFZ-LIK-PAyRGF7NDZDM88FpOVp.html&si=-l8D74UugsiUeq_q
Either way though, I’m really glad you enjoyed this vid! As I mentioned during the flight, I rather enjoyed getting back to basics also.
Thank you very much for the kind words (once again). I do spend quite a bit of time and effort not only recording the video, but also planning the flight, choosing the music, selecting the shots etc. As cheesy as it is to say, it always satisfying when someone notices / appreciates it!
Many thanks and all the best : )
i love this 172, it flies like a real cessna 172 that you see in flying clubs, it doesnt feel like a rocket on take off roll. its a good add on, and the sound pack is just amazing with sorround stereos or sorround headsets, makes you feel like youre actually there.
I really enjoy your videos ITBS - always useful and entertaining!
Thank you very much John, I’m really glad you’re continuing to enjoy the content. Cheers for watching! All the best : )
GREAT flight and those two enhancements really add to the quality of a default aircraft.
I very much enjoy your choice of airports for the flights. They always seem to be appropriate to the aircraft and the selected flight. Thanks again and looking forward to the next one! !! !!!
Cheers Mark! Yes, the addons are totally transformative for the default C172 and make the aircraft a really enjoyable option in its own right.
Thank you once again for the kind words; I certainly try and put some thought into my flights ahead of time and Fall City was a great little find (I just finished recording another flight out of there actually haha).
Many thanks! Catch you again soon : )
Great as always. As a PPL student on the 172M this mod is extremely usefull for procedural training. Still waiting for the A2A model. Hopefully they transfer their C172 to MSFS
Thanks very much Dennis, I’m glad you enjoyed it! I would love to see a return of the A2A C172 also (to be fair, I’d love to see a return of the entire A2A lineup haha).
Best of luck with the rest of the PPL! Happy flying : )
this is literally the 3rd time i come back to this video. it's so beautiful and the vibe is so chill. thanks for all the videos you make!!
Haha. That’s really nice to hear Admistt, cheers! My absolute pleasure on the video(s), I’m really glad you’re enjoying them to such a degree : )
Many thanks for watching and all the best!
Thank-you so much for this demonstration of the “WB Sim Enhancement” with the “Boris Audio Works Soundpack”. This is again your Stateside sports fan, Guerry. I think you did a great job of demonstrating the features of these addons. In light of several comments I’ve read so far, and this is by no means is a criticism, I think there is a saliently positive aspect to this addon.
If you are one who loves the Cessna 172, I believe you will truly enjoy this addon. You should seriously consider purchasing it, but do not act impulsively. There will be other hosts with their reviews of the product. Before making your final decision to buy, I highly recommed viewing their evaluations. Again, this is something truly worth your time to investigate if you find the Cessna 172 your choice aircraft.
Personally, I am not a fan of the 172 for other than it being a tool for the interim step between the Cessna 152 and purchasing a complex/high performance aircraft. The Cessna 172 is perfect for developing one’s instrument skills once the 152 is mastered. I made the decision to transition from the 152 to the Carenado Cessna 182 RG for several reasons. Chiefly, it was so I wasn’t spending all day to fly a fraction of the distance that I would in the 172. Consequently, once mastering my flying skills with the 152, it was time to work on more demanding VFR and IFR procedures. So no matter how aesthetically pleasing this addon might be, I cannot fathom investing in something that is essentially a ladder rung for further developing my MSFS experience.
Rather than having developed the enhancements for the 172, I really wish WB Sim would have put its effort into a Carenado and/or other company’s addon product. WB Sim did a phenomenal job on the 172, and for that I praise it. I mention Carenado due to it being among the best for recreating accuracy in visual modeling. But in all fairness. I do not consider Carenado the best for other functionality. But, it is good enough for my purposes.
I leave you with this: If you are one who loves the Cessna 172, then go for it brother/sister! Buy this addon and deeply immerse yourself into your flights to a degree not currently available with the MSFS standalone. We are all here to have fun!
Again, thank-you ITB staff for producing your video review. Please, keep churning your succinct yet informative reviews out!
Thank you very much once again, Guerry!
Valid advice, undoubtedly. Although, I can’t believe you might suggest that my opinion isn’t the “be all and end all”, when it comes to flight simulation : P
WB Sim have done a great job with the C172 and (in case you weren’t aware) also offer up a similar upgrade for the C152 (I know that was your airframe of choice, at least until recently). I am very much hoping that WB Sim, or someone else, will attempt the same thing with some of the Carenado products; as you say, Carenado’s beautiful aircraft seem like obvious candidates.
Thanks again for the kind words and I shall be sure to thank my staff (if my daughter, popping in every now and then with a new collection of toys for daddy, counts as “staff” ; )
All the best, sir!
I have the Boris audio pack on Xbox and it really got me to love the C172 again 😁
I love the classic 172 trained in it during my private pilot lessons, thanks for the memories great video
My pleasure Phill, I’m glad the video brought back some good memories. I spent a chunk of my PPL on the C152. When I then moved over to the C172, I felt like I was clinging onto the aircraft for dear life haha!
Cheers, all the best : )
The sound from the outside while taking off was rather odd wasn't it? Sounded like the RPM didn't really reach max and was fluttering quite a bit, but that wasn't the case obviously. Otherwise those addons seem really nice! I do however have all my GA needs covered by the Comanche, once flying that one nothing really compare anymore :-)
That was the replay mode causing those rpm fluctuations, it's very smooth if you just go to exterior view normally 👍
@@BorisAudioWorks ah, I see!
Can confirm... it sounds good outside... replay tool messes it up. Also agree on the Comanche... the 172 us painfully slow lol.
Once you go A2A, you'll be disappointed with anything else.
When I finally build a new PC, FSX is going back on. I had hundreds of dollars with all of the A2A.
Ouch, good luck going back to FSX... MSFS is so beautiful@@KyleCowden
Welcome to the Pacific Northwest US neighburs to the South of me. and of course another fine video as expected. Thank You and do keep well.
Haha, cheers Mike! I heard so much about the PNW, back in the FSX / P3D days, but don’t think I ever really checked it out (I didn’t own the Orbx scenery for it); I can certainly see what all the fuss is about - a beautiful area!
I’m glad you enjoyed the video. My pleasure and you take care as well : )
Great video...can't get hold of many repaints for this version...
Hello Dave,
Thanks very much, I’m glad you enjoyed it!
You can actually use pretty much any C172 repaint (default or otherwise) with the WB Sim version, although it does take a little bit of tweaking to get them working properly. The easiest / “cheat” way, is to download a WB Sim compatible repaint, then download the repaint that you actually want, simply swap the desired repaint textures into the WB Sim repaint file and then drop the modified WB Sim repaint file into your Community folder.
I hope that helps a little. All the best! : )
waiting the a2a cessna... or a miracle of airfoillabs... that are amazing cessnas!
I (and I suspect many others) would be very happy to see either of those addons make their way into MSFS! : )
Tak!
Thank you very much for your generous donation, Johnny! It is very much appreciated.
Cheers and all the best : )
As an oldtime sinner..I mean simmer..I LIKE THIS AIRPLANE..
It looks like a great Trainer and time builder..
Great Video!!
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Another nice review from into the blue👍🏻
Thank you very much, sir! Glad you enjoyed it : )
N73924! That was the first aircraft I ever flew as a flight student. Amazing to see such a great mod for it - and a truly accurate livery!
Haha! That’s awesome, Ethan. Well, I’m glad the video brought back some nice memories! Happy flying and all the best : )
Just putting this out there. There are 2 aircraft that I would absolutely love to have in the sim those are the A7 Corsair ll and the Beechcraft starship
Thankyou Boris! Nice flight!
Cheers, Simon. I’m glad you enjoyed it!
All the best : )
I think the initial rough running was because you didn't lean the engine on the ground. These fuel injected IO360s don't like to be run rich on the ground, with the mixture lever left in.
Quite possibly Arthur; I’ve never flown a fuel-injected aircraft (well, maybe once, now that I think about it haha) and I’ve never operated far from sea level so, leaning on the ground was never really a part of my operation (at least with any of the flight schools that I trained at). I tend not to do things in the sim, that stray from what I have done in the real-world but, it’s great to see that WBSim have modelled the engine to such a degree!
Cheers for the info! All the best : )
Good mods indeed, I however definitely prefer the JPlogistics 152, which is - quite unbelievably - free.
Ahh, well that’s actually another addon I keep meaning to try / showcase, Atharoon ; )
WB Sim had some input into the JPL mod also, so the two aircraft share a little bit of the same heritage I guess.
Cheers, all the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Yes please, if you find the time it would be great to hear about your opinion of the 152. All the best to you as well!
I wonder. Any of you guys were able to mount the excellent GTN 750 GPS in that aircraft?
Awesome views! We'll done!
Thank you very much once again, Aaron! I’m really glad you enjoyed it. All the best : )
I don't know what to make of sound packs for GA planes. Back 40-odd years ago when I was doing my PPL, we didn't have headsets. We had a single mic/speaker on a cord which was hung on the panel unless you were talking. ALL you could hear once you started the engine WAS the engine and it was so loud that you had to shout to be heard by the guy with whom you were bumping elbows. So no switch sounds, no wheel rolling sounds, etc. Just the engine, the radio (often barely heard), the stall horn, and the control rods clattering in pre-stall buffeting (the latter 2 probably only because you were at low power at the time). Nowadays, everybody's got noise-canceling headsets so you hear NOTHING at all unless somebody's talking on the radio or intercom using an "inside" voice. The ONLY planes in my experience where you can hear every sound made by every switch and part of the plane are gliders, and you can use your "inside" voice in them without needing a headset.
Hi Bullethead,
As with many things sim-related, the conundrum you mention tends to divide people haha. Personally, I’ve always preferred soundpacks that lean more towards “immersion”, rather than accuracy. For example, I’d rather hear the afterburner kick in, or the switch click, because both of those events would give the pilot some sort of feedback. Since there are a lot of sensations that we can’t replicate in the sim, sounds tends to be the next best things (and can be used to trick one’s brain into “feeling” something, at least to some degree). That’s my take on it anyway. . .
I hope you’re keeping well. All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Agreed. In some cases, using sound as a substitute for touch is useful user feedback to let you know what you were trying to do actually registered with the game. Especially for things you can't see out the window or on displays.
There are also some sounds which should be there in most planes but usually ain't. Such as the sound of ice being slung off props into the fuselage side. I've only ever heard this in the Trislander and it really gets your attention :)
Haha, I didn’t know that about the Trislander - nice touch! I wish the Islander would get another update to the same standards; I enjoy a quirky aircraft, but the Trislander is just too much of an eyesore for me XD
Cheers, all the best!
What are you using for head tracking?( I see in your hardware listing you are using Track Ir:)) Would like to try Tobii Eye Tracker. The video is just excellent. Already had the sound pack, but will pick up the WB Sim Enhancement after watching this.
Hello Mike,
I am indeed still working with TrackIR. I have considered the Tobii on a number of occasions but, TrackIR has been working just fine for me - “if it ain’t broke” and all of that. . . haha.
Cheers! Im really glad you enjoyed the video and I do hope you’re enjoying the excellent WB Sim enhancement also : )
I hope that helps. Many thanks for watching and all the best!
Hi, how to remove the pins, shocks these things?
Hi FTLOG,
All of those functions can be accessed from the menu, integrated into the ADF radio (as outlined in the video, on the return leg of the flight).
I hope that helps. All the best! : )
Thanks for asking this, I was about to ask the same thing. Haven't managed to move this damn Cessna yet but I'm sure I will after fiddling about with the ADF radio.
Could you send a link for the livery? Would be much appreciated!
Great review as usual. But I have this mod and there is a very important feature that you didn't cover and that's the settings hidden in the ADF.. realism setting.. static features like chocks and tie downs are all accessed via this ADF.. also there is a significant bug in the 530/430 and radios you have to install the PMS50 and the patch which is provided in the zip folder.. I will say the flight model improvement alone is worth the purchase but the Auto pilot has a few bugs and your sorta limited to their liveries but it's a fun GA still..
Thanks very much, Paul!
Actually, I did cover the hidden ADF menu options hehe (on the way back towards Fall City). I didn’t spot the bug with the 530/430 but thanks very much for the info, I will give the fix a go.
It’s funny, I saw no mention of any flight model improvements on the sales page, but it seems that the flight model has indeed seen some work (I would have thought that was a prime selling point!). Re the liveries, you can actually use any C172 repaint from Flightsim.to etc, with a little bit of tweaking (it can be a little bit fiddly, but the livery I used in this video, was not intended for use with the WB Sim mod).
Cheers! Happy flying and all the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations pays to watch the entire review I guess haha.. love your content always mate .
Haha. No worries Paul, I don’t expect people to take notes ; )
Many thanks, all the best!
Somethign about the sunlight when on the ground is still cartoony and i can't put my finger on it
I know what you mean, David; MSFS can still look a little bit cartoony at times but, it’s still the best we’ve got haha! To be fair, the sim can also look superb under many conditions : )
All the best!
Actually the flight model is tweaked from the default. It was not at release due to file encryption, but 1.05 added flight model tweaks to the list of changes. Exactly what WB would have to comment. I would also add the JPL C152 from revisions 2.xx was taken over I believe by WB, so same modder, but free.
Thanks for the info Eric, very much appreciated!
As I didn’t see any mention of such tweaks, in the sales description, I had assumed (incorrectly) that the product was still using the default flight model. It’s great to hear that WB Sim fleshed our the enhancement that little bit more.
I did see that WB Sim are now mentioned alongside JPL, with regards to the C152 mod. I keep meaning to try out the modded C152 and that’s another very good reason to do so!
Cheers, all the best : )
I just noticed that the FS 172, even though a 172S, has the older styled McCauley Wheel assemblies opposed to the Cleveland Wheel assembly. (noted by the "spoked" design of the McCauley wheel, opposed to the smooth of the Cleveland. Thank you for indulging my spreading this useless fact. :P Well, your shelter hanger is now nice and clean :D Wow! That engine was surging, at least in the exterior view. The interior sound is at least to me not right at all. It seems they recorded mostly the buzz of the propeller, but in the 172 you can hear the exhaust note, along with the valve train, especially at low to idle power. This sound pack seems to lack that, or at least how this recording came out on my system. Yea, there is definitely a lack of exhaust not, or the very rapid "puff" of the exhaust. The pre stall sounds are actually really good, though the stall horn is lacking. (The cessna stall horn I liken to the sound a cat makes when squeezed :P). Mind you though I fly with old David Clark headsets, so this may be simulation with noise cancelling headphones. (looking at the other comments I am thinking the sound issues for me are indeed my sound system, which would be no surprise.) The wheel bearing sound on roll out is a nice touch.
Hi Pythos,
I shall have to take your word for it, haha : P
It is worth noting that unfortunately, my replay tool did cause some peculiarities with the sounds, though only externally (hence the “surging”). The interior sounds whilst not perfect, certainly brought back a few memories for me (though granted, it’s been many, many years since I last flew a C172 haha). I guess sound recording and perhaps even more so soundpack creation, are a bit of a black art ; )
Cheers!
@@IntotheBlueSimulationsI'll bet it was the playback / replay tool...but also one other thing. I recently discovered my cat had sent one of my speakers off the area it resides, so that was making all my sounds odd. LOL
Haha! That probably didn’t help either then, yeah XD
Just found the manual online. Am I reading this correctly, that the Working Title 430/530 doesn’t work in the mod-just the PMS50?
I believe you’re correct, Patrick. I didn’t notice any issues myself, but I didn’t really make use of the Garmin units, in fairness. From what I gather, a few tweaks will be need to be made by the user, in order to get the GNS530/430 working correctly.
I hope that clarifies things a little. All the best! : )
Hello, I have this WBSim Cessna 172 Enchancement and all good except if I try to manually start it? I have shut the plane down once open and running, but for the life of me no matter what I do I cannot get it to restart? Checking all is set correct numerous times....but still not able to restart. All the System saves etc are off.
I open the msfs2020 Cessna 172 and I have no issue with turning off, and then restarting.....not the case with the Enchancement? Any ideas? thanks
What are you using for ATC in this video?
Hello Trent,
The ATC is real-world recordings, which I’ve then edited into the video. There is actually an ATC chatter app available for MSFS though, if that’s the sort of thing you’re after : )
I hope that helps. All the best!
I did not see if you were using any flaps for the take off. (thats a gnarly airstrip!)
I’d like to see how you have your clouds configured they look good
Hi TK,
In this video, I was using SoFly’s “Weather Preset Pro”; it’s a little payware program, that gives you a number of custom weather presets within the sim (including this one).
I hope that helps. All the best : )
Where can i get this livery for the wb sim? Great video as always, mate.
Hello could you tell me How i can remove chocks the same aircraft ?
Hello XG,
You need to use the ADF radio menu (as demonstrated roughly mid-way through the video).
I hope that helps. All the best : )
How did you remove the pitot cover and tie downs?
Hi JM,
It’s demonstrated during the video (on the return leg to Fall City). Such options can be accessed via the ADF radio menu : )
I hope that helps a little. All the best!
Where did you find this classic enhancement pack for the engine realism? I am on Xbox Series S and I am searching everywhere on the marketplace and struggling to find it.
Hello Scotty,
Unfortunately, I think the WB Sim enhancement, may only be available to purchase directly from the Just Flight website (that would make sense, if you have been unable to find the addon). Sorry about that.
I hope that clarifies things. All the best!
I looked it up in only works for the PC version. Oh well. @@IntotheBlueSimulations
Very good video! Thank You sir
Thank you very much FD, I’m really glad you enjoyed it! My pleasure and all the best to you : )
How i remove chocks and "remove before flight itens " ?
Hi Peixe,
All of those functions can be accessed from the menu, integrated into the ADF radio (as outlined in the video, on the return leg of the flight).
I hope that helps. All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations i still no found this command.
@@soquinhodoralf you need to turn the master battery and avionics bus 2 on, power up the ADF radio, click the display, then rotate the small knob twice. Then click the red text to remove the exterior items. If you still can't figure it out, have a look at the manual. It's described there, with pictures to follow.
How to get C172 classic cockpit in Fs2020 sir 🙏🏻
Hi Fook,
The classic C172 is included with the “Deluxe” version of MSFS. The WBSim mod, is a further enhancement on top of that. As mentioned during the video, you will need the default C172, in order to run the WBSim upgrade.
I hope that clarifies things a little. All the best! : )
Now if I didn't have the Comanche I'd consider these mods, as they are clearly very good.
The PA-24 is just so far ahead of any other GA aircraft in the sim though, in my opinion, that there's little point, as I'd hardly use it haha.
Nice video, sir. Hope all is well!
That’s fair enough Plucky, I’m sure many would share the same opinion haha. The Comanche is the king, no doubt, but I tend to like flying a of variety of aircraft when I’m simming so personally, I’m happy to fly “lesser” addons for the sake of interest - at least until A2A can bring us a few more of their works of art ; )
I’m glad you enjoyed the video! All good I my end thanks, I hope the same is true on your end : )
Great video quick question what livery is that and what mod for the black cockpit?
Hi PlaneGuy,
Thanks very much, I’m glad you enjoyed the video!
The livery is free and available over on Flightsim.to (just search the registration and you should find it easily enough). This particular livery, is not natively compatible with the WB Sim mod however so, you would need to convert it (there are tutorials available regarding how to do this - I believe the product manual perhaps outlines the process also). If memory serves me correctly, the black cockpit colouring, is included as part of the WB Sim mod : )
I hope that helps a little. All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations thanks for the help
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Happy new year by the way!
You’re most welcome! Cheers : )
How do you get the radio chatter? VatSim?
Hello Milesy,
The ATC is real-world recordings, which I’ve then edited into the video. There is actually an ATC chatter app available for MSFS though, if that’s the sort of thing you’re after : )
I hope that helps. Cheers and all the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Think I found it, FS2020 Real ATC mod by stick and rudder simulations. I'll give it a try, ATC chatter is one of the immersive things missing in MSFS.
That’s the one! : )
Can some please provide the links to these wo upgrades? or have I missed some thing.
Many thank for a great video.. Have learnt so much.. Keep up this amazing work.
Robert 👍
and still no opening doors and panels?
Hi Mr S,
Correct. Although, I believe WB Sim would come up against the same limitations as Black Square; unfortunately devs aren’t allowed to alter certain aspects of the default aircraft and then monetise them - doors seem to be one such area (for whatever reason).
Cheers, all the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Yeah, I should've said Asobo when I made the remark. Keep 'em flying, ITBS
Loved this video. Although I can't find the WB Sim C172SP Enhancement. What is it, where do I find it, and how do I download it.
Thanks very much Smirky, I’m really glad you enjoyed the flight!
The WB Sim Enhancement, is available from the Just Flight website (and only from there, so far as I am aware).
I hope that helps. All the best! : )
Does it turn on the ground better? The default C172 doesn't turn above 5 kts (barely turns below that) and it drives me crazy.
Hmm, that’s interesting Gabor; I don’t recall having similar issues with the default C172 (to be fair, I hadn’t flown it in a long while, so perhaps something got messed up after a sim update?). Nothing seemed untoward with the aircraft / WB Sim mod; as you can see during the video, I was able to get the aircraft turned around in some reasonably tight manoeuvring areas (though I didn’t try turning at higher speeds, in fairness).
I can do a little bit of further testing, if it’s of use / you’re considering picking up the mod?
All the best : )
In the sim at engine start is there ever a scenario where the prop isn't clear?
Hello Nigel,
Well, yes and no haha. MSFS’s AI groundcrew, are forever walking through the prop arc (and various other parts of the aircraft). Of course, giving them a “shout” isn’t going to achieve anything, but I suppose it still pays to check, if one really wants to be “realistic”. I just shout “clear prop” as a bit of a running joke, as much as anything else though ; )
All the best!
I installed the Boris Audio Works Sound pack for the 172, and it worked great. I installed the WB Sim Enhancement, and I lost all my Boris sounds. Did anyone else have this issue?
Hello Mike,
I’m wondering whether you perhaps need to install the WB Sim enhancement first? Perhaps, the WB Sim mod is overwriting your sound files upon installation. The two mods should work together just fine. . .
I hope that helps. All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thanks, I talked with Boris, and he walked me through the procedure, moving and renaming a certain folder over to the community folder. Works perfectly now.
Ah great! I’m glad Boris was helpful (always good to hear) and I’m happy you managed to get things sorted : )
If you like the intro music, you must like the dark side of the moon from Pink Floyd?😍🤙
Haha, well I must admit Jasper, I’m not sure I’ve ever heard it actually! I shall have to give it a listen at some point (I’m generally a fan of retro rock, so I’m sure I’d probably enjoy it : )
Cheers, all the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations you are living in a less beautiful world when you dont know the dark side of the moon haha. Let me know what your opinion is and thank me later🤙🥳
Airfield name?
Hello Daniel,
The airfield is “Fall City”, it’s a payware airport from Orbx. I’m afraid I can’t remember the ICAO code, but it’s down in the video description.
I hope that helps a little. All the best!
FS Academy FTW
Are you on VATSIM? I hear other pilots but you're not making radio calls yourself.
Hello Joel,
The ATC is real-world recordings, which I’ve then edited into the video. There is actually an ATC chatter app available for MSFS though, if that’s the sort of thing you’re after : )
I hope that helps. All the best!
Why are some people still buying planes when the new simulator 2024 is on its way ! It is a waste of money when many of the planes are free and some want to pay for new ones.C172 is of very good quality.I have not bought anything for MSFS 2020 because the premium version has all you ever need..Many simmers have wasted a lot of money on pay ware!
Hi Leif,
Well, many payware addons offer a lot more complexity that some of MSFS’ default offerings (something that a lot of simmers are looking for). Personally, I would say that it’s only a “waste”, if the addon isn’t bringing the user enjoyment. Further to that, Asobo has confirmed that any addon sold through the in-sim Marketplace, will continue to be compatible with MSFS 2024 so, newer purchases *should* still generally have a lot of longevity (only time will tell, whether or not Asobo’s statement turns out to be true).
To each his own, of course and the base version of MSFS does certainly have a lot to offer.
Happy flying and all the best!
Plugs wouldn’t be fouled if you weren’t full rich sitting on the ground
Bro piper pa42
Apologies CL but, you’ve lost me. What about the PA42 haha?
All the best : )
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Terrible stock airplane. No window operation, NO SUN VISOR, no doors, etc, etc..and those are simply aesthetics, really. The main problem with this plane is there is no way to tune the nav 2 frequency, making the nav 2 CDI completely useless. Prove me wrong, I'm all ears. Want to fly a realistic Cessna, check Carenado's C182RG ll. Completely blows awày the stock Skyhawk.