This is NOT a Triplet!
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As a guitarist, we call those gallops normally. Didn’t know that many people got this wrong either.
As a bassist, I agree
Yea my drum teacher also used to call them gallops. It was one of the first things he taught me after learning the basics; the difference between triplets and gallops. Drumming 101 imo.
Lol
Why horse terms
@@bobbytoodle8912 Because it's very similar to the sound a horse's hooves makes when it is running.
The term was being used in rock mags by the mid-1970s to describe the rhythm that bands like Nazareth and Deep Purple were using. This in turn influenced Steve Harris of Iron Maiden to incorporate a lot of it into their albums.
Triplet: a set of 3 EVENLY spaced notes in a beat.
What about quarter, quarter, quarter, rest in 4/4? Evenly spaced, not triplets.
MCLooyverse how is it evenly spaced when there is LITERALLY a rest in your description.
@@MCLooyverse Here's another way to say it, if you're confused by the above description: 3 evenly spaced notes played within another note-length.
Example: 3 notes played over the length of a quarter note.
@@MCLooyverse My original description says "in a beat". You can't just take half my definition and forget about the rest of it.
@@jddrawz Sorry, I didn't mean to do that. I'm not sure how I missed that. Now I think that description is too specific though, with quarter-note triplets taking up *two* beats (in 4/4), instead of one, but still being triplets.
Edit: Regarding your first response, my example would be three notes played inside the space of a dotted half. Unless you mean only notes with length that is an inverse power of 2 times the whole-note length, then my example would still fit your definition.
Imagine playing through the entire Master of Puppets song, vocals and all, then confidently pointing at the camera and saying "that was One, by Metallica"
Thats how that intro felt to me lol
😂. Same vibes
"That was Where Eagles Dare, by Black Sabbath"
i’m dead 💀
playing through “ Parabola “ by TOOL and pointing at the camera and saying “ that was Lateralus “
I hit my drummer with this and he was hella salty lmao.
Truth hurts.
@@nmaikowski8013 But aren't triplets supposed to be equal weighting? Like sure, they are both 3 notes in the time of 2, but they're supposed to be of the same rhythmic timing.
@@Gleveniel agreed. It was supposed to weighs the same
@@nmaikowski8013
You are full of shit. It's literally not a triplet, it's two 16th notes and an 8th note you fucking imbecile.
Do a lot of drummers get formal training? Most trained musicians in any instrument learn this year 1, easy.
When the guy said «that was a triplet » i was dead😂😂😂😂
Marie-Eve Blais Lit broooo😂😂👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻🔥🔥🔥😩😩
Bruh what kinda numbucket thinks that's a triplet, obviously never learned how to count it like "blu-ber-ry" or "i-ci-cle", etc. How he didn't realize it was one E and, 2 E and, wow man he can't subdivide ffs
Well in Bonanza you see three guys.
@@MaxRamos8 Ok ok, TO BE FAIR hertas sound very close to triplets
@@thesmilingvagrants Then you really need to listen very carefully again.
on second thought, i thought that dude played holy wars
I thought he played hardwired, then I thought he played Holy Wars
He looks like Jesus too
At first it was hardwired then it turned into holy wars
Almost
Al R same 😂😂
His precision astonishes me every time while being funny :D
Indeed! He drum good! Me drum....not so good 😁
Precision, yeah! Funny? Idk I get very annoyed watching his mannerisms
For some reason I can't stop watching then lol
3:57 = Anthrax - Bring the noise (Public Enemy) - Intro
4:14 = Every song on Death - Human ;)
Human is a little slower than that
@Louis Hendrich , you're so effing right!!! 🤘🏻
Nah leprosy
That Bonham triplet was tighter than my budget during COVID-19.
Tighter than Samus's cav...
you need a better government
Laszlo Zoltan definitely not disagreeing with your comment. However, I do feel very lucky to be in the US.
And here I am struggling to play that.
@@SlyHikari03 I haven't tried.
I mean look at him lol
0:57 What my phone sees at 2am
more like the FBI
HAHAHAHAHA
Hafos we decided to let him go with a warning.
Remember guys, the fun way to count triplets is: Pam-el-a An-der-son
I just say FLORIDA
@@cobalt._.27 Now that's a tough trashy contest to judge haha
Holy shit that is good lol
You can't think of Pamela and count in three, she has only two :))
@@yrussq polyrhythms man, polyrhythms!
I've never encoutered someone who got this wrong. This is wild.
It usually comes from the self taught crowd, honestly
Having studied music for many many years, I still find it infuriating that there are "teachers" out there who teach these things incorrectly.
I never teach something unless I’m 100% sure about it. If I have a shred of doubt, I preface it with “I’m not sure, but...”
specially something this basic
@@katyungodly the dunning kruger effect is the issue here. people dont know that they dont know what they are doing.
Oh my gosh, I try to tell people this who took previous lessons from other teachers or got misinformation all the time. I was just going over this literally yesterday with a student on how this is not a triplet. I will admit, I am still learning how to teach as its an ever learning experience, I am starting to realize how many people unfortunately get taught wrong. I had a drum student who was 12 and was taking lessons for 2 years from another school before they shut down. In an 8 week span of group classes which are only once a week we covered more than what he learned taking 1 hour every week. I had one student that came from another state and started band locally middle school. He was failing band(had been playing music 5 years already). He took 1 month with me and raised to a B by the end of the grade period. Now he is maintaining an A in band. Now I am not bragging about myself but it feels good when I see students get happy and pursue music. Now this kid is working on Jazz and Pop drumset as well as Xylophone. All the parents and students keep saying I am a great teacher. Truthfully I tell them, I try my best but I am still learning myself. I am by far not a know it all and I am not afraid to admit when an 8 year old girl can play Good Times Bad Times better than I can. So long story short, research before you teach and always be humble and connect with students.
I think the best one though was a student who played drums from 4 years and was in his teens, I said play 4 Quarter notes on the snare. He said "uhhhh what." I immediately knew I was in for a journey.
*watches music theory vid about something I don't know* : watch 2 mins and slacks off
*watch vid about something I've fully understood for years* : is entertained and pays attention to full vid
I think you just described my life.
Sadly thats just how our brains are hard wired :(
@@MfingChristonya TO SELF DESTRUCT! aNd tHeN TrIpLeS sTaRt lmao 0:56
4:56 thought you were about to bust out the honour thy father intro there 😂
My first song I've ever listened to by them
Ha! This was one of the first real fights I got into with a guitarist in my first band. It’s not only the Herta. He kept insisting that 3/16th’s and a rest was a triplet. I demonstrated to him over and over and he didn’t get it. Well… We didn’t last too long in that band.
That boggles my mind. Ah, guitarists.
the shirt is one of the most evil and active-passive-agressive things i've ever seen. 'cause it's true. it's great! 🤘😆
That shit is great!
I didn't know he's lefty
I love it considering that I've had this argument about triplets with a friend years ago.
3:57 god damn love how good some simple double bass can sound especially with a click going
when u play so sloppy ur triplets sound like gallops
Agree...in theory it's evident, but i get confused most of the time due to my shitty playing :-/
He looks like Weird Al and that comforts me
Jacob Wuttke so true. Same mannerisms and facial expressions
was about to say the same. when the weird al take up drumming? he's not bad.
He looks like Weird Al and “confronts” me. Common mistake
Kinda looks like Weird Al crossed with Dave Grohl honestly
Ty
i've played drums for almost 10 years and i'm completely self taught so i have no goddamn clue about any of the theory or notes, no nothing. But somehow i feel more smort now, even tho i have 0 clue what the hell i even watched
You should look up polyrythms for some funsies then
There is no theory in drums. Only math.
@@That0neGuySaid 4over3 polyrythms are fun.
@@joetroutt7425 said no singer/guitarist
well if you're familiar with the term FPS, this is basically just that it's Notes Per Second. all music is really just NPS.
the first triplet blast beat I've heard is on a Dream Theater song
A nightmare to remember. :)
Trey Weddle damn straight brudda
@@herpderpinson6117 such an underrated album man. Out of all the Portnoy albums, it's the one I rarely hear people talking about.
Overrated
@@BeardManDrummer1999 I think it's their second best album after Images and Words.
I always call them by their unofficial but much easier to remember name "12th and 24th notes"
We get this name from a game I play called StepMania which is all about rhythm
1e& 2e& 3e& 4 &
1e& 2e& 3e& 4 &
1e& 2e& 3e& 4 &
1e& 2e& 3e& 4 &
....
THAT WAS A TRIPLET
That video is so iconic. It has shaped my journey as a percussionist 😅
He was actually playing a 5/4 beat. 1e& 2e& 3e& 4&a 5&. It hurt my ears.
Haha yeah I realized that after I relistened after I posted this. It sounds like the first bar is in 4 and then the others are in 5 so I don’t think he even knew what meter he wanted to play in 🤷🏻♀️
Or maybe just edited weird lol
No no no & no. He explains it perfectly.
You can use 1e& 2e& if you want but in a 4/4 bar it would be 1e& 2e& 3e& 4e& AS LONG AS the notes are evenly spaced 3/2. THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF TRIPLETS.The vocab I learned was 1 ah da 2 ah da because the longer vowel sounds help you visualize & thus physically draw out the space between the notes. Practicing with the click helps solidify the mental & muscle feeling of how to think about the notes & then play them. Also: Nowhere in this video does he play 5/4.
@@MarshallDavidson are you disagreeing with the content of this video? We’re talking about the guy in the first like 10 seconds. The example he uses starting at 0:05 shows him playing 3 sixteenths in a 5 beat pattern, which is where the 5/4 came from. I was counting the 16th he’s playing as “1e&” because he’s not playing triplets. And yes, I have a degree in percussion performance so I’m pretty sure I know how to subdivide triplets. 🤷🏻♀️
I feel better knowing this now.
the quarantine look combined with your usual demeanor really makes you come across as insane, 'S GREAT
Y'cuda.
Please offer a "This is not a Triplett" shirt with "Ohh Yuur" on the back!
Thanks for clarifying this. For the longest I've been calling this "herta" a triplet. The first thing that comes to my mind is in Van Halen's "Jump" with the fill that comes in the 8th bar of the intro. I thought that was a triplet. But now that I'm listening to the song much more closely, I realize that Alex actually slid a couple of triplets in the song that are less obvious.
It's called hertas cuz your legs hurt from this!
I'll see myself out...
We gotta get a lock on that door. lol
I'll see you back in, It's so true!
Only if you're doing them on double bass drums.
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True they hurta whole lot
That tom-tom-kick thingy sounds so cool :D
Your drum sound is better in this video than most bands achieve with studio time! I replayed you playing along to the metronome so many times. Love it.
Thank you for the lesson. I am at the beginner level. Now I know the difference between quarter, eighth and sixteenth notes on the drums…
Dude, each note you play's so clean! You are amazing! 💪🏻🧠🤘🏻
4:56 who else heard Honor thy Father going DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN dooloolooloodle DUN DUN DUN DUN
Funny thing though, that famous intro to Honor Thy Father is not actually triplets. :) The opening pattern is groups of six notes, but those notes are all at the same tempo as the 32nd note snare & kick rolls in the following bars of the song.
You have to get five minutes into the song ("don't cross that crooked step") before you start hearing any triplets.
@Sweet Jones III Uhhhh yea I did? You dummy
I did for the first second or two lol
100%. I was waiting for him to go into the hits for the guitar riff.
Thank you sir! I am a beginner and I wasn't confused about triplets vs hertas I was more confused about how to count them and how to put them into rolls / fills. This video explained it perfectly for me, already able to rip some new grooves - thank you!! Subscribed.
I saw the shirt in like a community tab before watching the video. I was expecting this to be some sort of meme but it's actually a genuine, clear and well constructed lessons with amazing examples. I am dumbfounded ahahahaha
I really thought this was like, grade school music stuff.
It is, but many drummers are self taught and so don't know much theory to know the difference
It is, unless you're 40 years old and just learning. This is beginner-ish stuff.
It is.
@Luke Steiner Where are triplets in that song?
@@batmanthemightiestavenger9129 I’m a self taught drummer, and it’s very obvious that those are *not* triplets
I didn't know they were called hertas. I knew them as gallops and reverse gallops. Gallop being 1 8th follow by two 16ths and the reverse gallop being two 16ths followed by an 8th.
A herta is 2 sixteenths and 2 eighths. A gallop is 2 sixteenths and 1 eighth
Gallops = Iron Maiden
Reverse Gallops = Reign in Blood
that's all I know haha
@@higler. Raining blood not Reign in Blood
@@Justin-wu8gw haha oops I'm an idiot
@@higler. welp it can go with reign blood also
Very cool video. I'm so glad I already know these concepts and differences but I just needed someone to put labels on them. Your drumming is ridiculously clean.
i have seen this video show up in my feed for like 2 months and i thought "yeah, i know", but watching it was still worth it; you describe stuff in a really nice way :)
Man, please continue with these little music theory nuggets!
In my experience; after teaching this thousands of times with the same problem. The issue is people struggle with hearing in three (most likely due to an over-consumption of popular genres of music). So they play a ghosted fourth beat not realizing they're subconsciously counting in four. The result is "one, two three, (WAIT), one, two three, (WAIT)."
Are you talking about actual triplets or hertas?
Long time has passed I know, but try turning on a metronome and have them count out loud with it in different groupings. With little kids I tell them to count in a "robot" voice. Sometimes does the trick.
Man, the separation of the notes Bonham triplets is sooooo good. That's what I been working on lately, triplets using all my limbs
Stopped listening to death metal 10 years ago for the most part, but triplet blastbeats still bring me such joy. Sounds so berzerk and yet chill at the same time. Excellent way to close out the video.
All this music theory herta my head.
Okay, I'll see myself out.
If John Bonham is still alive, he must be proud of you!
Man that kit sounds fantastic!
I love the video, and gotta say, the drums are so well tuned!
Good job man
thank you for saying it
too many "experts" refer to triplets in the wrong way
im lucky i had a band director who knwe the difference
knwe
@@Yinte_Klop_Blunt666 typo
I''m kind of freaking out over the idea that a band director might have a job and they may somehow not know the difference.
"Those were triplets."
Yeah, and my mom was a Stegosaurus
Damn, your mom is oooooold
Well put together and concise. Great job!
Thanks for the great explanation Samus.
Incredibly interesting and I think I need that shirt.
-typical bass player
Aaaaannnd ordered. 🤘
Accurate AF dude.
66Samus: Makes a triplet video with no TOOL
Me: *Wait, that’s illegal*
Thankyou! This was exactly what i needed to hear! Fixed something i didnt know was wrong :p
Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
That was Greg Gall long time drummer of Six Feet Under at the beginning of the video.
shame on him
0:00 That is not a triplet, that was a gallop
OK I have became a TH-cam snob regarding drum teachers/players the past few months....This teacher is the bomb! Thank you for posting, seriously what great delivery, humor+ Drums = Awesome well rounded players. THANK YOU
Drums sound great. Nice tuning.
Hell of job breaking this down in layman's terms.
4:56 Those kicks sound like water sprinklers
Well explained, ... and great hands by the way!
Omg, I don't even play drums and this is the fourth time I watched this video. I love the over-reaction about something so insignificant. "No, no, no, no, no!"
1:05 I thought he was going to say "THOSE were triplets". Cause they sure sounded like triplets :)
Clip: "This is a triplet."
66Samus: *Wheeeeeeeze* "Ha ha heh heh! WRONG!"
Me: *SMASHES LIKE BUTTON*
not a triplet, but not a herta either
You're insane (the complimentary kind)! I want to get my own place so I can set up my drumkit and get back into the basics.
getting down to the sctience of drumming. I just started drumming and this was very informative. Thank You!
Taking band in high school helps too lol. I’m a self taught player on drum set, but when it comes to the basics and all the math, high school band definitely helps.
Yep; as a horn player, the rhythms we encountered ran the gamut of all the basics. 8th, 16th, quarter-note triplets, 5/4, 6/8, some occasional odd time signatures, etc.
"A chode sandwich" LOL, my life is now complete
Awesome lesson and a good video, thanks.
4:43 BLEED GOES ON
Those "triplets" that the expert are calling them are mostly called gallops. Couple songs that have that is Barracuda by Heart and Knights of Cydonia by Muse.
Want a song with a triplet feel, listen to Valentine by Xandria and My Fears Have Become Phobias by As Blood Runs Black
Yeah the feels like the sounds of fast horses.
I have the bass line (and rhytmic guitar also) of Run to the hills by Maiden that comes to my mind.
Achilles last stand inspired Barracuda obviously.
Or any blues inspired song lol
Are you talking about shuffle (boogie)? These are actual triplets.
Lest we not forget Iron Maiden
3:10 I'M TWO QUARTERS AND A HEART DOWN
This always confused me and now its clear to me. Thanks man!
Awesome vid! Much appreciated!
Oh yeah drop that knowledge on me daddy
Gotta love this channel. Running the gamut from music theory nerdfest to fart metal. Love it.
theoryman1 imma be real. This is pretty basic stuff. not really a music theory nerd fest.
@@apothecurio For drummers it is. ;)
Dave Bass m8 as a life long drummer I learned the difference when I was in my elementary school band. Trust me this is basic stuff.
@@apothecurio well, I was exaggerating for comedic effect, but apparently that didn't work so, sorry?
that Bonham triplet amplifies everything so so much
Zero Signal has been one of my favorite songs since it released when I was ten years old. Absolutely love the song. I've probably listened to it thousands upon thousands of times.
I have been doing the triplets wrong.
I HAVE TO SINCOPATE THEM!
Beginning of video: I have no idea what he is talking about
End of the video: nope. still no idea. but it was entertaining nonetheless!
Super helpful thanks sammy.
Hey Samus!
You saved my doubts I had for my whole life, bro!
As a Guitarist, I always tried to understand 12/8 bars measures, in songs like Maiden's "Rime Of The Ancient Mariner" (At the Solo Part), or "The Duelists"... I also have a song called "Persona Non Grata", which I think I wrote in Triplets too!!
Anyway, THANK YOU SO MUCH!
WE ROCK!
Mauro.
Just shoving that knowledge all up in my cav
what a sentence...
React to Alex Camarena from silent planet and break down some of his techniques pls I need this, love you long time
Thanks for clearing this shit up 👏
Yupp, have had a lot of discussion about that with the guitarists. Also about triplets and doted eighth notes.
One of my favorite exercises is going up and down different tuplets to a brisk bpm. Just because something is a group of three doesn't make it a triplet, kids and chodes. Learn those tuplets.
I'm very well versed in triplets, but quintuplets are downright evil.
...And now I know why I should learn them :D
Yeah the rhythm scale is such a nice way to really learn different tuplets and how to get a feel for them. I like to grid it, doing 4 beats for each, then 2 sets of 2beats, then 4 sets of 1 beat each, it gets really helpful for a lot of interesting fills.
This is exactly why I went to college for drumming 🤦♂️🙄
YES! Great video. You're such a clean drummer man. Great playing.
i appreciate this guys energy
Bleed intensifies
Love how I made Jon Bonham triplets even before knowing Jon Bonham, it’s just so natural
Butcher B no they don’t get that credit, I figured it out myself
THANKS FOR THIS, I always try to explain this, especially to metal guitarists and drummers
Such clean playing
What’s up everyone this is yoooouuuur daily dose of 66samus
This is stuff you learn when you start playing guitar at like 13 years old.
And this is stuff you don't learn at any age if you're self taught. That is why there are youtube videos like this.
@@ivanooze1049 Sure, if you're lazy and never learn any music theory.
@@byteresistor Some people just play for fun. I've played for 10 years and I can play tons of songs that I love to listen to but my rudiments are trash for the most part because I don't have the commitment to learning them; it's not out of laziness, just the fact that I don't have intentions of playing in a band or for anyone other than myself and the drums are a huge stress relief for me, so when I play I just like to play music at this point (for the most part). What I've taught myself is enough for me to get enjoyment out of the drums, that's what playing music is about for some people. You come across as cocky instead of someone who understands not everyone goes through the same experiences in life; calling someone lazy for not knowing a rudiment makes you seem like a prick.
@@ivanooze1049 i was half joking, you took this way too seriously pal.
@@byteresistor Well if I knew you were joking I wouldn't have cared lol... It's not that important, there are just some dickheads on the internet so you never know. Just would have been shitty if you were being serious because there are so many musicians who love to play just to play, ya know? Anyway, no big deal. Happy new year.
Love your attitude Dude!
Man! You got the sound and technic. It's not fair