Playseat Trophy Review!
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- My review of the new Playseat Trophy, how does it hold up for the price?!
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Besides its limitations I really like the design. I was a big fan of the Playseat Challenge, since the seat construction was surprisingly stable, everlasting and comfortable (more comfy than my later SimLab Bucket seat).
Its actually pretty easy to jump in after someone else in this cockpit. There is a Huuuuuge amount of space between your legs and wheel. My friend has this rig and he is 5'8" and I am 6'4". I had no issues driving after him for a few hours without any modification whatsoever. This is by far the most Rigid Portable Sim Cockpit on the market. And portable is a massive thing in most sim racers list of desired features.
Great review as usual and thanks for all the info, I am definitely
Thank you so much for the review. I received mine this past weekend. I'm excited to finally be a true sim racer with GT 7 out today (on my birthday of all days :) I agree with your take about the adjustability. I am constantly loosening screws and retighting it when switching between my wife, brothers, friends, and myself. It is a nice looking and functioning cockpit overall. Love how light it is as well.
Hey Abel, do you find that when switching between users, it’s usually enough to just adjust the main extension (the distance between the front part and back part) or do you feel like you have to also adjust the pedals and the seat?
I’m thinking maybe it would be possible to just get thumb screws for the main extension, that way you wouldn’t at least need tools.
@@crkvend the pedal tray has a lot of adjustments which makes it easier to adjust to a range of heights. I am 5’9 and my wife is 5’0. When we switch that’s all I have to adjust. It took us a bit to set it up. But once we found the right combinations, it’s become easier.
It’s is a bit annoying though particularly if you are switching back and forth. But we usually play for 3-5 hours stints. So it’s not too bad.
@@Abel_GTx Thanks man, I appreciate it!
Do you find any flex noticeable while racing?
Great idea about thumb screws@@crkvend
Great review - I’ve had one about 6 months, so far so good! It’s absolutely rock solid 👍
great review. I do think this targets a unique market - the need for a solid and movable sim solution. I play sim with the main family TV and would appericate the movability when I need to watch TV instead.
The first thing I thought when I saw the geometry of the cockpit was "this has so much potential to become foldable". Thank you for the unbiased review.
It makes you wonder why they didn't just put a break in the top half of the seat to get it to fold down. Ever been in a C3 Corvette? The seat folds half way up your back..
For the wheel deck, you can use carbon paste that you use for carbon to carbon mounts in mountain biking
Got it 2nd hand a year ago and its a great cockpit, if you are a casual racer that does not swap around drivers and don't have a room just equipped for racing ;-)
Fits perfect for me 1,85m (75kg) I can sit in it for hours.
It is very sturdy and might have some tiny tiny flex in it but it does not bother you at all when driving.
I've got it in my living room and can swap it easily to the corner after being done racing.
As it is very light & compact as Karl mentions in the video.
Oh man you’ve done soo many videos. Testing a bunch of different seats.
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Really great and detailed review. New Sub! Wasn't aware of this Rig until today. I have had a PlaySeat Challenge for around 6 Years + now due to lack of space and thought this would be a great option until I heard the price of it which shocked me. It looks really great in design and great to move around the flat but perhaps on a good sale it may tempt me.
Yeah I'd wait for a price drop mate.
I think the part of the price is the actual movability of the cockpit. I think it adds to the price tag, and I value that a lot. I need to move it, I love your review - best cockpit reviews on the web. I will probably get this one, as it doesn't weight much, it's really sturdy and it's movable.
EDIT:
I got it and love it. I also got the shifter/e-brake mount (I emailed them, shop didn't have that at the time) and I mounted DD pro, CSL load cell kit and both the shifter and e-brake.
I can't seem to find a shifter, do you have a product name/link/number?
@@matrilas Nah, I sent an email inquiring the holder and the dude made a purchase request with the items I wanted (Trophy and the holder) and that was it.
@@matrilas It appears the Playseat have the shifter for the Trophy in stock now.
Do you find the flex noticeable?
@@Barry.R Nope, no flex. The only thing flexing is Fanatec's poor plastic QR, but the rig is stiff.
As always, a very honest and detailed Review. Thank you for that. I‘m eagerly awaiting my DD Pro to finally be delivered and to attach it to my Playseat Trophy. Keep up your excellent Work Karl, a truly Trustworthy Channel ✌️
Thanks David, enjoy your new toys mate, a decent setup for sure! :)
is with me so fits well together and looks very elegant
I’m waiting for both the dd pro and the playseat trophy 😁
Have you take the 8nm supply ?
@@molotov4445 yes i have gone for the 8nm Version, I think 8nm makes more sense with a Direct Drive Wheel
I seen your vids and ended up getting into racing i got my 1st starter rig nd wheel , i ended up buying a gt lite and t248 im totaly in love with racing games now im suprised by how much i like it and how immersive it is after 4 weeks with my setup im sold on sim racing and look forward to getting a solid rig a DD wheel , the one downfall is when the kids are here i cant ever get on it as they all take over it lol great vid as always love your reviews
lol Typical parental problems there mate, there's just me, the cat and the missus so I'm good most of the time! :)
Krusty The Clown called, he wants his gloves back. Another great review Karl.
First of all, I love your reviews on all the Simracing stuff! Thanks a lot!
I‘m considering buying this rig too. The only thing that keeps me from ordering is that I cannot guess how high and adjustable the wheel will sit on the plate and how it will fit my height. I‘m about 174cm. How is the adjustability and comfort if you would tilt the wheel a bit downwards? Is the seating and driving position still okay-ish? How angled would I have to put the screen then to make sense?
I would attach a Fanatec CSW2.5 with the BMW GT2 wheel.
Great review! Im looking to upgrade from my gt lite after i get a simagic alpha mini and was looking at this. The price is very offputting, here in the states i can get a full 8020 rig for pretty much the same exact price which offers much more adjustability. If this was a few hundred bucks cheaper I'd definitely consider it. Keep up the great content Karl, always appreciate the honest and straight to the point reviews!
Price is far too strong isn't it!
Excellent review! Love your content mate have steered me right on many an occasion. Thank you👍🏻
Glad you find my waffle helpful mate thanks! :)
Thanks Karl! It's a shame price is 600€ 😂
I would've payed up to 400€ for this as I don't have much space, but I think the playseat challenge will have to do until I find a better & cheaper cockpit.
Haha Karl your a hero man, your reviews alone have saved me sooo much money in not making errors in getting my rig setup and I've got to say everything you've said was exactly as is and I'm now very happy with my setup and purchasing the right rig for my loadcell pedals because let's be honest pedals and having a rig that can support your pedal setup to me is number one. Then also I do have a DD so had to get a pretty solid rig and the one I purchased was exactly as you reviewed
Really happy to hear my waffle is helpful mate, thanks! lol
Did u buy the Playseat trophy?
@@zonqu7474 I did ..Had it for a little while now and more then happy with it, rigid and easy to move out of the way when done..same footprint as the challenge but 100x more sturdy
i love the relaxed semi"on the fly" way you review things keep up the great work!! nice break from the fucking war
Thanks mate, all my video's are pretty much on the fly, I put a little thought into what I'm doing but no script or anything like that.
Yeah we definitely need to be relaxed if we can right now, been a rough couple of years for the whole world and Russia has just made it a whole lot worse! :(
It's a good-looking unit. I went for an NLR GT Lite a few years ago, before this was around. If it had been, I would have bought it.
One modification I would make, if I were in the market, would be to brace the wheel deck at the front with a horizontally-mounted bar, to which I'd fasten 2 uprights which would then go down the the frame (which is running front to rear).
I think this mod might be fiddly, but it would enable the use of a mid-range DD drive.
Great review, Karl.
EDIT: I've just bought a Logi G Pro wheel and an NLR GT Elite aluminium profile rig.
Thanks for the review bro giving up my playseat challenge i love the fact this one lightweight
Nice review. Just one question, can the playseat be adjusted to fit at 1,75 ? Or is the steering wheel too high?
Great review. I didnt know about the Omega. I am looking to that one now. Great observation about the shared seat issue. Options are always good for reviews.
Glad it was helpful!
im looking to find myself a sim rig and the reviews you make always help and are straight to the point one take. keep it up mate
Cheers mate! :)
This is a great concept. I like the compact design
The price is the only problem. I hope some manufacturer will make a better one and make it much cheaper
Trak Racer TR8 pro looks like this for maybe less ? bought mine tr8 for like 700 but that was almost 2 years ago
Thanks for your reviews I’m looking for a race rig have limited space but would like rig with little or no flex will keep watching your channel for ideas 👍
I got one recently, I like that you don't have have a pole in the middle like the older models. You have to move the GT-DD-Pro, CSL pedals, one hole more to the middle for both pedals. (tip, attach pedals and wires on the pedal plate separate from the stand.)
Every time I install these pedals I forget to plug in the RJ12 cable first... and every time I have to mess about trying to plug it in afterwards which is nigh on impossible! lol
Thanks for the review. I bought mine a few days ago, and I must say that even if the build quality is excellent, in mine is missing one of the two side supports to attach the steering wheel plate.
In addition, the screws are counted and now I'm forced to buy (and therefore waste more time not foreseen) those to fix the pedal set and the steering wheel.
For now, I wouldn't buy it again .. very struggle to get to the full setup
Thanks for the review. I just ordered the sim lab GT1 evo. Can’t wait to set up my DD Pro on a more rigid cockpit. The price is about the same even after the shopping costs. Which are very high.
The GT1 EVO is a decent small ally profile cockpit but too much money for us in the UK, I don't know where you are in the world but to the UK with the cheapest seat they offer it's £699 plus shipping.
A comparable Sim Hound cockpit is about £530 with a seat delivered.
Very impressive and nice looking. Perfect for the CSL DD
I love the way it looks, very clean and smooth.
thank you for your review it made my desicion easyer wich one i shoud get.
got mine today and it turned me crazy there was a littel peace missing where you have to screw the weelholder on now i have to wait some more days to get a complet one its mind blowing i just wanted to finaly play whit my fanatec dd and have to wait even more days to test it out properly.
sorry for if my english is bad. its not my mother language.
greetings from the small swiss.
Great review Karl, and thanks for addressing my question regarding if it can easily be stored in two pieces.
What surprises me the most about this is that it seems impossible to adjust the seat height (or the wheel height) in any way. The wheel definitely looked to be to high up for you, and if there is no way to change the “ass to wheel” ratio (™️), that seems like a pretty big drawback.
Edit: According to their website, seat height is adjustable, tho they provide no info whatsoever, nor a download of the manual.
No worries mate, it was a good question to ask!
lol "ass to wheel ratio" and I like that you trade marked it too!
But no it's not adjustable, if you extend where that front and back halves join then that also raises or lowers the front of the seat as it's angled, but thats it.
You can pretty much adjust seat height with the velcro straps which run under the seating area, not clear in the manual though
@@DARKNADAL but that would then also change the form of the seat as well. The velcro strap is pretty narrow and it would only raise that part of the seat, not the whole “butt area”.
The Playseat Challenge also has the same issue.
Was thinking about getting this seat and then while investigating I found the Trak Racer TRX (Not out yet I know). Would be curious to get a review like this on that seat when it is available.
"It does smell nice. If that's your thing?" Haha I know a few seat sniffers 😂😂😂
I think the price is spot on, not expensive, it adds value since it is light weight, and easy to move away, I dont see any alternatives, with same build quality, that is easy to move away. I will buy it for my dd pro and CSL load cell kit.
I'm getting mine in a couple of days! I can't wait!
Enjoy mate! :)
Finaly a normal Review baby 😎👍 hell yeah lets go
Hi i just bought the playseat trophy and i have a small question regarding the fanatec csl pedals mounting. The bolts at the back of the csl are written M8 but they dont fit in the holes on the plate. What did you do make the holes bigger or use M6 ? Thank you
It was expensive but I'm very happy with mine, if a woman buys shoes for 600 nobody says anything :)
.. or a brand new iPhone!
@@charalampospournaris6000 any phone, iphone is pretty good value compared to android today
So true eh
I agree man..best purchase
@@kresimircosic9035 1000 for an iPhone vs 400 for an android with identical specs?
GT all day, thank you for the solid review
Hi I have the Playseat Trophy as well and I don’t know where to install the loose velcro strap.
Hey mate, how did you manage to mount the pedals. I’ve got the same pedals you have used in this video but I’m struggling
How is the flex with thrustmaster tlcm pedals? Does it work? Or is gt omega titan better?
Considering this over my challenge. I do fold my challenge up and put against wal in my study. Does the seat back food down, so I can stand on its end?
Hello there, many thanks for the review , a couple of follow-up questions : 1. Its lightness makes it interesting for usage / storage, any way to store it vertically? 2. How comfortable is it compared to a play seat challenge ?
If you can get it to balance upright yes, still a reasonable footprint though as the seat doesn't fold or move.
Way more comfortable IMO.
Another great review. And I agree, there's no way I'll be paying that much for it.
Thanks Ivan.
Do you think the VRS wheel base and Pedals is good for this? Or do you think that's overkill and I'm better off with the Alpha Mini and some other lesser pedals?
hey mate i need your help: im almost only playing formula games and also like formula shaped rigs so i want to know if this simrig is good for f1 games or should i get the f-gt?
also im 190cm will the trophy fit me?
Nice review, thanks. I’m heavily thinking about getting one of these. I need something with a pretty small profile that can easily be moved out of the way or to another room. Price is tough to swallow but none of the Omega Titan, F-GT, GTTrack seem to be as portable
This is definitely the easiest to move around.
Can you plz do a review on the original next level racing wheel stand?
I just bought this and it is a very nice bit of kit but you are paying a good 50% or more over the odds for the low weight and form factor. I had the money to burn and there wasn’t anything quite comparable on the market so ultimately decided it was worth it but I wouldn’t necessarily recommend it to someone else.
I’ve already come up with a pretty nice home brew shifter mount out of some left over plywood in the garage, there’s enough spare bolt hole mounting points that’s it’s pretty easy to work out, I’m sure there will be something on the market soon.
How is it after a year? Wondering how the rigidity holds up and comfort
@@Barry.R Still as good as the day I bought it! I do use it pretty regularly but no where near as much as some so do bear that in mind.
Was the wheel height ok? I have heard it is a little high?
If I pop thumb screws where the seat brace meats the frame, will the seat foot fold forward. Thinking about the screwing that and wheel brace, so and drop wheel and fold seat back forward
Hi Karl great to find your channel,what seat would you recommend for me,im 6 foot 2 and constantly get a bad back from my play seat I've got now,but for a long term seat that's as comfy as realistic as possible what would you go for? Thanks 😀
I'd get the XL RS mate, thats what I use having had all three options from GTO.
What base you have on it? Great video
Do you think VRS pedals are overkill for this? I dont plan to use high kg of force, if they still are worth it, great. if not then i can get something like the CSL V2's
Would you tell please wich bolts did you use for mounting fanatec csl pedals?
Thanks for your review which as ever are always in depth and cover the important issues. I've still got my Playseat challenge but not being used. Replaced by the GT Omega titan you often referred to. Personally find the PlaySeat too uncomfortable. I've fitted a mini clubman seat £42 from local scrapyard to my titan and is superbly comfortable. Titan wins big time in my opinion and fit a mini clubman seat (perfect width) to fit straight on the titan
Great review mate!
i am saving for the Trophy as we speak. I currently have the Playseat Evolution and the at 6.3" the centre bar is a pain in the nads
Quite literally I imagine! lol
@@KarlGosling not wrong ha ha
Is it possible to fix the DDPRO base without the clamp on the plate? So it's a bit lower.
Nicer than the titan.. You crazy.... Im putting led lights under mine tonight... Gunna look sick!!
Great Review! I get mine in April with 8nm. My first wheel. Will a GT Omega Classic Wheel Stand work for that? Or while the force feedback move the wheel stand with its 8nm?
All wheel stands move a little as you are not fixed to them, but the GTO Classic is the least sturdy of the bunch, I would recommend the Apex at least.
Just bought one of these with the adjustable shifter mount and everything i am very exited for the rigidity of these against my playseat challenge. I hated the bouncing moves the challenge rig did under load when you've got a proper fanatec wheelbase attached to it so i'm looking forward to playing with the trophy instead.
How much flex is in the shifter mount?
How do you like it with your direct drive?
Good video as always, I am stuck between ordering this and the GT Titan atm.
Titan is a more solid and adjustable option.
what is the height from the front end to the Wheel base mount ?
My question is compatibility with fanatec v3 inverted will it fit ok on this playseat?
Great review! I think I'll go for the GT Omega Prime Lite instead for more adjustability, or even a Trak Racer TR80 Lite.
I would mate yes.
Appreciate the vid 👍 added to amazon wishlist to wait for the price to drop 20% (500 abit steep for this unit imo)
Now any ideas how to hide this from the missus?
I have a feeling we'll see a drop in price too, sales will not be strong as they are... unless they can keep stock when everyone else is out of course!
Paint it the same colour as your walls or carpet and it will blend right in mate, she'll never notice! ;)
I almost want this cockpit just because it looks so good. It’s pretty pricey over here in Aus. Around $1000! The GT Omega Titan is at least $200 cheaper. I still want the Trophy though.
Thanks for this Karl! Glad i picked the NLR GT Track instead...if delivery ever decides to show today that is -.-
I got the gttrack new for 477 Euro. And honestly I wouldnt buy it again.
I got massive backpain with it. Needee to buy back chushions to make it usable. Stability ist fine though
@@Martin-vn9fr thanks for the heads up, luckily i got some spare cushions if need be, i see what you mean seat seems a bit narrow! Still when sitting it is quite comfortable :)
Talking about playseat, that evolution that I ordered for my kid on a next day delivery (Amazon) apparently means the middle of April. I got the slider the next day even though I bought them as a package deal.
That's annoying. I know lots of manufacturers are having issues due to Covid. I ordered the GT DD pro and part of my order comes in soon but the other stuff comes in late March - early April (hopefully) because of parts shortages.
lol Oh fucking hell! Yeah stock issues just seem to still very much be a thing for everybody.
Do you know if a thrustmaster GT300 wheel base and pedal base can fit in this?
Hi Karl, how did you mount the DD Pro on the plate? Are you still using the table clamp? Great video!!
Just bolted straight on mate, no clamp.
hey your the reason i just ordered a gt omega prime used your code to cant wait to set it up my desk isnt cutting it
Big upgrade there mate, nice! :)
My weight is around 110-115 kg. Will it be sturdy enough for me? I need something to seat on and not be worried, use my strenght on wheel and pedals without much flex and squeaking noises.
Amazing stuff Karl!!!
Thanks Peter!
What size bolt do you all use to mount a the CSL pedal plate to the rig plate ?
I dont think they sent the right sizes ...
Hi Karl, can you show a close up of how the fanatec pedals are bolted on to the playseat trophy? What size screws do you use? Thanks in advance.
I no longer have it mate.
I compared this and the titan. Honestly, I would use this, due to the much easier storabilty AND it has less flex in the pedal base, which DID somewhat show up in the software with a fluctuation of 1-3% depending on the set strenght of the pedals.
I also found it weirdly more comfortable than the titan.
I would also argue that size adjustability isn't a problem. It has a lot more upwards leg space and my my 1.83m body was able to drive it at the same setting my 1.60m wife used.
I sadly was never able to compare it to the ART
It's a decent enough cockpit, just expensive... or at least it was at launch, I've not checked prices recently.
Hello.
Was just wondering, users who already have this product? Have any of you experienced the bottom seam on the chair seems to tear?
Thank you 🙏🏽
Karllll, what is that tiny little keyboard!?
Great video as always :)
Something I bought on eBay years ago (like 10 years ago) for about £15! lol
Thank you, love your reviews, very thorough. I just got the Playseat Trophy for my Fanatec DD Pro as well. I am only 162cm tall and I have to mount the wheel base upside down. I do have one question, how do you mount the pedal base? I am only zip tiding it to in place right now. Thanks!
I can't remember exactly (I don't have the Trophy now) but I just bolted them down.
@@KarlGosling Thanks
@Karl Gosling do you know what the distance is between the legs. Basically where it makes contact with the floor? I have a shelf that I’m planing on putting it onto just depends if it’s not to long
I don't mate sorry.
Does it have somewhere to place your shifter??
thanks, your review has helped me much 🏁🎮🌍😎✌️
Glad I could help
Do you think its light & small enough with the DD installed for one person to carry it from the front room of their home to the basement for storage down a flight of stairs?
If not I'd probably look at the sim hound and set up a permanent spot in the basement (pretty dry but just a tad chilly).
Not easly but if you're fairly strong you could, it would be awkward.
Has anyone got any idea where the extra separate strap goes? I can't figure it out at all! Thanks in advance!
So youre saying playseat advertises it as compatible with CSL however i just got the csl pedals with LC pedal.
There is no hole to bolt down my load cell in the middle
How
Is
This
Compatible?
I enjoyed watching this video ... thanks
The back is adjustable which is ok, does the back allow it to be folded forward? Kind of like the playseat evolutions can be folded down ?
Just curious before I buy as that would actually be beneficial in my case in being able to stand the rig up when not in use.
No mate it does't, at least not easily.
Really helpful review, thanks. Been looking at this as an upgrade to my Playseat Challenge, as I want to get a DD wheel base in place of my Thrustmaster belt driven wheel. I need to be able to pick it up and carry it out my back door into the garage though, it's only about 12-15ft, but is that feasible?
Given what you've said, if you're in my shoes would you try and reinforce the Challenge or grab one of these (preferably when on sale or 2nd hand).
Depending on what DD base (some a VERY heavy) yes it would be fine, this is a very light cockpit.
@@KarlGosling most likely to be the CSL DD (8nm) with the Mclaren GT rim and probably CSL load cell pedals.
Thanks so much for this review Karl! How is the GT Omega Titan to move around compared to the Playseat Trophy for someone that would need to put it aside once finished racing? Is the Titan much heavier or more of a pain to move about?
The titan is very heavy but I've added castors in place of the 6 feet it has to make it more manageable. Also in my opinion the titan is a much better cockpit
Yeah add some casters and you'll be fine, the addition of more material and a proper seat make it much heavier than this.
I added larger caster rubber wheels to protect the wooden floor from markings and moving the Titan is as easy as pushing a large trolley. The only think I dislike about the omega is the fact it cannot provide much adjustability for the wheel itself. Otherwise, tremendously solid.
What is the height of the seat
Hi Karl, after I adjust the angle of the wheel deck, how do I stabilize it? Thank you
Sorry I do not have this anymore mate.
@Karl Gosling that black belt like thing, where is it used in the build? Thanks for the video!
Sorry one more question, what is the size of the M6 bolts that you need to mount the dd pro on the trophy wheel base? Would a 12mm do or something like 15mm? Cheers
I don't actually know, the manual doesn't show it in use?!
I think 12-15mm would be fine.
Looks like a more refined copy of the Fanatec CSL Seat. How's the wobble/roll? I remember people complaining about that with the fanatec.
None that I noticed mate.
Hi Karl do you think it would be an upgrade from the f-gt lite?
Thanks
Yes it would be an upgrade from any foldable cockpit.
I just picked one of these up for £420 to replace my Challenge. Would that be considered a good deal for this?
i just want to say thanks for the good help of your video helping me put it together today. worked out so well.god bless you and your famaly.
No problem!
Use it since 2 months in combination with the Asetek Forte Bundle and I'm actually happy with. No feelable flex, looks good, can easy be moved. Had do drill new holes for the base + pedals, but this is ok.
One MAJOR issue I have tough... The lenght adjustment clamping is too weak. Under heavy breaking, the seat will lengthen itself, which is really annoying. Seems the only solution to this is, to drill a hole and stuck a bolt/screw throgh to fix it.