1982 S10 CALTRACS VS STOCK SUSPENSION
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ธ.ค. 2022
- A side by side comparison of my stock leaf spring suspension and when I upgraded to the Caltracs bars and split mono leaf spring.
Calvert Split mono leaf springs www.summitracing.com/parts/CL...
Calvert Caltracs for 1982 S10 www.summitracing.com/parts/CL... - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Excellent video, much appreciated.
That’s an awesome comparison.
Thanks man, not a great content editor. Took me a little bit to the the two videos synced up but it turned out OK. I couldn't find any videos of this so figured why not do one myself?
@@SS10guy012 I’m not the best either. Does your editor show sound waves? That’s usually how I line 2 clips up. At least to get you close. You could even try the “sync audio” tool if it has it.
I believe it does. I use shotcut. It's a free editing software. I'll have to try that next time. Thanks for the suggestion!
great video! love the side by side!
You just got a new subscriber!!! Good video, you can really notice the difference
Great video. I understand in theory but I've never seen it in practice. Wow those leafs just flop around.
Definitely needs a shorter shock after fitting the Caltracs. That shock would be screwed from bottoming out in no time!
Nice video. I have Calvert split monos, caltracs, viking DA shocks, funkhouser shock plates and sliders for the rear of mine. I'm going to start on it soon as I finish this interior up. I'm debating on cutting out the factory cross member at the rear and welding a tubular in with upper shock mounts to have the shocks more vertical.
I appreciate the compliment. My video editing skills aren't that great but I was able to show what I wanted. I'm planning on installing sliders on the back of my leafs at some point. And was also thinking about adding a box tube cross member to make the shocks more vertical as well. One project at a time.
@@SS10guy012 It's better than what I can do now, it's new for me. I hope to start on my rear suspension in the next week or 2. My 2nd gen has a lot more weight to remove from a big spare tire mount too that's connected to the top shock mounts.
Pretty much have the same setup as you in my Nova. I made a shock mount crossbar to get the shocks straight up and down
I like the comparison and caltracs definitely work but the stock set up was far from ideal and needed a lot of improvement. Removing the lowering block and adding a spring clamp or two to the front of the leaf pack would have improved the launch significantly for a lot less money.
I put of cal tracs for a long time, wished I'd have gotten them alot sooner!
Great job.
Thanks!
Good test
Did you have to do something with driveshaft length, when changing to the split mono-leaf springs?
I have an '82 S10 , drag racing with stock springs, no lowering blocks, Cal-Traks, and Calvert Racing, single-adjustable shocks.
I'm debating getting a pair of 3" lowered split mono-leafs, and perhaps a pair of QA1 double-adjustable shocks.
Some racers in the Drag Race Results forum I frequent are not really impressed with the mono-leafs.
I must install a camera like you did, to review what my suspension is doing; I have noone to video my launches otherwise.
Thank you.
My fix was to stub a complete c-4 corvette irs in place of those leafs.
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Stock spring hit the tire much harder . Is this not a good thing when goin no prep ?
Well I guess. But there is also another way. Look at the video on the LEFT at 0:10 and see the bottom Load Spring. You can loosen the U Bolts and move that forward until it just about touches the frame. Re-Tighten the U-Bolts. It will prevent axle wrap, provide traction, and can be adjusted forward or back as needed to tune it. I have the one Lowering spring as shown in the video at the RIGHT, but instead of a Caltrac I use the Load Spring method. Cheap, Easy and it works and is still barely slightly flexible. PLUS it's extremely low profile for a lowered vehicle.
They both did great on the build but there is alot more power being lost due to the leaf suspension. Drag racing totally different ball game from track
Awesome, now I know why people the split leafs and caltracs so much for the track. Did you have lowering blocks with the leafs? How'd those work for you?
With the stock leafs I did. They worked fine. When I went to the bars, I got the 3" drop split leaf springs so I didn't need the blocks. I had to get new u bolts then and the shocks were almost too long as you can see in the video. I plan on moving the upper shock mount so they're at a more vertical position and will most likely have to get different shocks. Thanks for watching!
With your leaf spring flip kit how is your axle so far from your frame?
The axle is on top of the leaf from factory in these...
How is the street handling?
What et gain did you see from the swap that you could say just the caltracs gave you?
I mention it in the video. .075 to .100 et improvement. Wasn't drastic but they definitely made the passes more consistent in my opinion. Still in the beginning stages of tweaking it too. Thanks for watching!
@@SS10guy012 my problem for buying and running caltracs on my s10 is that I’m 90% a driver still yet and I’m lowered so idk if I can clear a 26” tire with the brackets
Yes, you do sacrifice some ground clearance with these. They do make a "low profile" set that only has 1 hole location at the front leaf spring mounting position instead of the two that I have. That would be better for street use but I would maybe look at going to a taller rear tire to get you some more clearance.
@@SS10guy012 yep 28” tire would be best to switch too but idk if it will fit with my setup
I got a lot of trail and error fitment problems on expensive parts lol
Are you still running a stock rear end? I was able to fit a 28x10.5x15 Mickey Thompson slick without any tub or narrowing. Just need to find out what wheel backspacing you need.
how much preload do you have on the bars?
I am on the lower hole with the recommended preload of 1/4 turn. Just installed them and only got to make about 4 or 5 passes with them so haven't really got a chance to play around with other settings. Thanks for watching!
How much lower did your truck get with the springs?
Stayed about the same. I had 3" lowering blocks and I did away with those and put the 3" lowering split mono leaf springs in.
I have the bars, need the springs and better shocks.
Get the double adjustable shocks when you go for it. I wish I did.
@@SS10guy012 thanks for the tip, will do.
Do you have a part number for them shocks.
Hello and sorry for the late response. These are the QA1 TS804 shocks. The are only single adjustable. The double adjustable version is TD804. Beware though, as you can see in the video, the shocks are almost completely compressed and dont leave alot of room for traveling with my lowered ride height. I would recommend looking for shorter shocks for street use. Thanks for watching!
@@SS10guy012 Not a problem thanks for the update do you still have the S10.
Sure do, I am in the middle of building a 6.2 LS for it.
What setting did you have the shocks on?
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100 likes! Now let's it make it to 10000 views! Thanks for watching!
Does the ride quality change?
With the split mono leaf spring it does get a little softer I think. Other than how the truck launches, it rides about the same. Thanks for watching!
Not exactly a direct comparison here, with the non-Caltrac view showing old multi-leaf spring pack and lifting blocks. Look at the difference in length of the shock strut - this exaggerates axle tramp and twist.
Its a comparison of one setup to another. Take one off, put the other on and compare the results. I don't care what "exaggerates" what. You can see in the video with your own eyes how much axle wrap there was with the stock setup (with lowering blocks) and completely gone with the Caltracs setup. I think you're just arguing to argue.
@@SS10guy012 @SS10guy012 I'm definitely not arguing with anyone. There is no denying that the Caltrac system works really well, you can see that very clearly. However in this video the "stock" suspension is not actually truly "stock" suspension (lifting blocks, stretched shock absorber etc.).
@@jamesc4527 whatever dude.
If it were just the addition of the traction bars that would be one thing. But you swapped leafs too, misleading the results of the traction bars
Leaf springs? 😂 You can have that on your horse and cart
Why would you want the truck to lift up when you are dragracing and the squat transfers weight onto the rear tires so they don't spin?
Antisquat maybe? Pushing the tires on the ground instead of letting weight do it I could be wrong