Ducati Multistrada v4s Sygic Navigation.... Does it work?? Test Ride ..!!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ส.ค. 2024
- Right Guys! It's Ducati Time, we are going to find out whether this navigational system works or not. Join me again on a test ride of the Ducati Multistrada V4S to test the connectivity and the Sygic app. Will it work, will it not, that is the question? I am here to find the answers for you.
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I gave up using the Ducati Connect and Sygic app. I just use my phone mounted where you've done the Evotech mount. I use google maps. I'm hoping Ducati realizes the train wreck software combination and just allows users to pair their own navigation to the screen.
Yes totally agree it’s rubbish and not worth using. The only issue I found with my phone is in remote areas is navigation signal isn’t the best. So my tomtom rider with the evotech bracket has been excellent. 👍
@@thatbikersimon I download the Google map
Somewhere in Bologna there's a VP of engineering trying really hard to justify his job, and he should be let go.
To make it simple, a terrible app from Ducati (Ducati Connect), to be able to send GPS data from a single terrible navigation app (Sygic) via a wonky metwork connection and a cumbersome connectivity sequence.
Next time Ducati, have the connection rely on the usb cable and let people use CarPlay or Android Auto.
Great and informative - but wouldn’t it just be easier with Apple/Android car play
Yes I agree, I prefer jusy to use a separate sat nav or my phone for navigation
thanks for the Heads Up on the evotech Parts
Your welcome, it’s fits great and blends in with the bike.
Just add Apple and Android car apps...Sygic is a disaster. the load time to do all the connection is minutes IF it connects the first time. Then you can only play music ON your phone and no spotify or other apps. Absolute trash for a $30k bike when something is already in place, tried and tested
Exactly Scott… it’s a waste of time. I don’t think the January update is going to make much difference. Il stick with my TomTom for the longer journeys and iPhone for the shorter ones.
@@thatbikersimon it’s a shame that a $30k “Full” bike requires additional investment to activate radar and has such poor navigation and locks you in to the music saved on your phone when Apple car play and android auto are easily available. Sours an. Otherwise amazing and fun to ride matchine
Wonderful videos! I would add: there is the ability to add favorites into the Sygic App, in advance, making it easier to retrieve and launch specific locations without having to key them in, but you need to be stopped to see favorites (I think). Also when the bike is not moving you can key in your destination into the phone, and when you switch back to bike mode it should match up. I just got an email from Ducati advising the are adding some updates to the software including the ability to keep the nav on while stopped for a while. I will try and post under another entry.
From Ducati on upcoming software updates:
Connection with Ducati Connect active up to 20 minutes after key-off
When the bike is turned off, a dedicated indication will appear on the instrument panel, inviting you to press the joystick if you want to keep the connection active: in this way, when restarting after a short stop, Ducati Connect will be immediately available without any waiting time.
Music and navigation audio volume
In addition to acting directly on the smartphone system audio via the switch joystick, it will also display the level set on the instrument panel.
Call management during navigation mirroring
In the event of an outgoing call made by Ducati Connect, it will be possible to go back or to go to the navigation screen of the bike.
Phone and Music Player feature
This feature will also be available in Enduro and Sport riding modes.
Thanks Kevin, yes the email I received was welcoming. The 20 mins connected after turning off is a good idea and I’m sure those little issues will be sorted out.
I could understand it being crap if Sygic was built in to the MS, but to make you use your phone and not allow other Nav apps is absolutely criminal for a £20K+ bike.
Totally agree Chuck, I’m sure Ducati will intergrate something in the near future. For me the Tom Tom is working well for the adventure rides 👍
It would be perfect with apple car play and using google maps 👍
I do think that would solve the issue with it. 👍
Hey buddy , good video . Just picked mine up yesterday but wondering how you managed to fit your Tom Tom? Did you buy a mounting bracket ??
Hi Billy, I bought the evotech mount for the TomTom. I also did a video on wiring install, here’s a link to one on eBay which is a uk one
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/154477748907?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=4W-IR3glSdO&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=d7YjCDQITMC&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
I understand why they did it the way that they did but my complaint is with Sygic generally: If you want to get to an address, it's fine. If you want to set a route for a day ride, it requires some time. Making custom routes is far more painful than it needs to be. With snow on the ground, I've been planning and creating routes now so that I don't need to futz around when it's time to ride.
You would think in the 21st century of tech it would be so much simpler. I’m happy with the Tom Tom at the minute. The undate on the bike should be out soon.
@@thatbikersimon I expect the update to make connectivity better, or at least less wonky, but the problems with Sygic aren't going away. I think they just don't fundamentally understand the motorcycle market (i.e. finding the shortest/quickest route from A to B isn't our top priority).
Bought a mount from "Iconic Part" and installed my Garmin Zumo XT on Top of the reg. Screen. Not sure why Ducati used such a terrible Navigation Software like Sygic, why not integrated Apple Play or Android Car or any other Software like Here or Garmin or TomTom. Sygic from Bosch is such a bad incorrect navigation System. By the way what mount is that you using?
Hi Oliver, I’ve given up with the Sygic and stick to my Tom Tom, the mount I used for that was the evotech one.
Hey buddy,
Quick question; Does the navigation run in the background when you switch back to the main screen?
Like do you still hear directions in your headset or does the Sygic app completely stops giving directions?
Greetings from the Netherlands!
Hi, I’m guessing so but I’ve not fully tested it yet. Il shall do a update on my next video, the weather has been horrible just recently so I’ve not had the chance to ride out but hopefully next week will be the one.
Hello, good vidéo, what Kind of fixation do you use for fixing your tomtom gps ?
Hi, I use a bracket made by evotech motorcycle-mods-online.myshopify.com/products/ducati-multistrada-v4-rally-2023-tomtom-compatible-sat-nav-mount-evotech-performance
@@thatbikersimon thank oyu
Can't understand how manufacturers have the cheek to charge well over £20,000 for a motorcycle and one of the most important things you want to work on the bike, just crashes
I know it’s crazy 👍
On an unrelated question. What is the charger used? I noticed that it is not the usual car cigarette lighter charger. It is smaller size. I couldn’t find the details in the manual, so not sure what it is.
It’s a din hella socket adapter you’ll need.
The app now works well…latest update
Definitely a big improvement 👍
Interesting video but much too much faffing about. I'd just stick to using either Tomtom or Garmin dedicated satnav units and leave the dash to do it's normal work. Thanks for putting the video up though👍🏻
Totally agree Ian, I would sooner keep the dash clear and use my tomtom.
@@thatbikersimon I'm hoping to swap over to a multistrada V2s next year if i can sell my Monster. I'm a Tomtom user so hope they release an updated model before that !!
When I need to figure my way on my multistrada, I go into my tank bag and pull out my paper map !!!! All this tech is not necessary!! And if I get lost , [oooo well that is usually fun too!!!!!! 😂😂😂😁😁😁🏍🏍🏍🏍🏍🏍🍺🍺🍺🍺
The good old days Art. I probably wouldn’t fine my way out my own town with my Tom Tom 😂
Hi, I have the same app on my Suzuki gsxs1000gt the app is so slow to respond and I could not get the sound to work on my headset I have a Samsung a52 , I tried it on my wife's Iphone. I had the same problem. I have bought a garmin sumo sat nav I have ran out of patience with the Sygic app.
Totally agree, this app should of never been invented. Why spend money developing something that don’t work, all that does is annoy us. My TomTom set up never fails me. I use a sena headset which works most of the time. Thanks for the comment it’s always interesting to know I’m not the only one that had issues with this app. 👍
so, does it actually show fixed and hidden speed camera's as well???? thx
No it doesn. I just use my Tom Tom if I need navigation. So much better.
I seriously wonder if gthis is a hardware issue. Chip too slow? Memory not enough? The chip can't go back and forth, between the heated grips and keep the maps open???? What happen to computers that could multitask???
Question: Has anyone seen if the connectivity is BETTER when the phone is in the tank pouch? Maybe the sensor is in there??
I have my garmin mounted next to the left handgrip via the mount on the steering stem bolt on my 950. I do have the central mount from ducati, but decided I just like having it near my left hand, if I want to change or enter anything it is close to my thumb or finger.
There’s a big software update out soon (next week) that’s supposed to sort all theses issues out. I’m looking forward to this. So il make sure I put a video out and find out what’s going off. 👍
This is why every multistrada I see has a proper sat nav fitted and why do Ducati leave a lead marked NAV under the panel at the front right if they are so confident Sygic is so good, answer that one Bologna.
I think in the 21st century of technology Ducati would of come up with something better. Like a free satnav with every multistrada would of been better than the Sygic app.
ADV - should only be true GPS Sat Nav - go into any remote or mountain region and your phone won’t work.
This is very true for me thr Tom Tom has been working well.
Give a provision bracket to add an actual satnav next time like the gs and prefer to have CarPlay any day .. this is rubbish .. also don’t like how the Ducati connect app when in use renders your phone useless to have a quick peek at anything else on the phone (other apps / windows)… also the long hold left on the joystick to return to the e general menu and come out of Ducati connect mode is not exactly intuitive .. last complaint and really nit picking here , the joystick is too close to indicator switch and overall left switch gear is crowded - horn , indicator, joystick , cruise control et al
It’s definitely in need of major improvements. Il be honest I’ve never used it since day one. I find the Tom Tom much more convenient and better in the line of sight.
Just seems the cost and issues with the nav does not make it a better buy then a 1250GS. Sad,
I’m guessing they will improve it over time but for me personally the Tom Tom set up works perfectly for now.
You connect WiFi on the phone to the dash?
Yes, basically the connect app and the Sygic app work off your phone I’m unsure if you can use the maps off line or not but I’m guessing when your phone goes down so does the navigation.
@@thatbikersimon Is your phone in hotspot mode?
@@jammydoughnut once you connect the Ducati app it doesn’t matter about the hotspot the bike is then connected to the wifi.
Hello Sir,
Is it possible to connect to all your devices with your mobile phone? so to TomTom, Ducati Connect and your headset?
I've had a Garmin Zumo XT connected to my phone and my headset, so I could see incoming calls on the Nav screen, worked perfectly!
Is it still possible to:
- see who is calling you on your mobile phone (displayed on nav or dashboard)
- make calls from the Multistrada dashboard
- change Spotify music from dash or nav
- hear music and directions in helmet
- talk on intercom
all whilst your phone is connected to:
- TomTom/ Garmin
- Ducati Connect
- intercom system
Greetings from the Netherlands
I’ve not actually used my Tom tom yet because I’ve not been anywhere to far where it’s needed.
I’ve only connected my Ducati connect with my sena and phone and it works fine with music, I’ve not tried it with the Tom Tom as well but I’m guessing if you have to many devices connected you’ll have some issues. Il give it a proper try over time and hopefully report back soon.
Answer: No, it doesn't work well enough to be remotely usable.
Very true Alex.
I have never been able to wrap my head around this...car makers and now bike makers. The absolute stupidity on so many levels.
In this day age you don't just need to an app you need TWO apps.
Stick to what you actually do well and make amazing bikes and just enable 3rd party use.
It's like they have no idea how well received it would be if a manufacture just allowed 3rd party compatibility.
Not seen a single manufacturer do it well...they ALL have some shitty option even premium manufacturers.
I hear you. It’s crazy, something that should be so simple
Sygic has to be the worst Navigation app i've ever used not supporting GPX in this day and age is not acceptable
Totally agree, they would of been better off not having it at all.
This seems annoying - “what the Duc” Ducati
Hate this software.
I got Ducati Connect connected, but when going to the apps i SEE the apps but don't get that blue selectionbox on screen?! Wtf is that about? No solution anywhere ofcourse.
I can look at the apps but can't use them. Brilliant italian crap.
I feel your pain, I’m not even going to try with this software I’m in hope that they will significantly improve it soon 🤞
@@thatbikersimonupdate: recent update fixed that problem with the selection box. Doesn't make the sygic/ducati connect less useless unfortunately.
Horrible app.
Totally agree. It’s rubbish
Sygic is utterly horrible. Sure, it "kind of" works for very simple navigation. But the type of navigation bikers want - NO. It’s not even possible to import a gpx track into it, only a gpx with waypoints. So it isn’t even possible to plan a route in kurviger, calimoto or something else and then import it.
Route guidance is horrible. Every 100 meters or so, the voice prompt me to continue along the road.
For a bike like the Multistrada, Ducatis choice of navigation app is a complete disappointment. What were they thinking? I almost wish I had bought another BMW.
For the premium price they charge for these bikes, they have to do better.
I totally agree, 3 years on and they still haven’t figured it out.
@@thatbikersimon At least they added "Twisty roads"to Sygic with the last update. It won't mysteriously change Sygic into something fantastic, but if it works reasonably well, it may make it more bearable.
Update: It doesn't work well. Surprise! 😂