MiG-9 is one of my favourites. In ground RB you'll seldom go up against other jets, so you can easily outrun them. And the large cannon is pretty satisfying. And I'm sure the enemy appreciates dying to cannons rather than bf-109 bombs
i think the best part of the mig 9 as a starter jet is that it teaches you the weird ballistics of the two 23's and the 37, sort of taking some of the load off of you when you finally get into the mig 15
@@oniceguard9205 I personally don't like vertical targeting because I've just gotten used to the divergence in the 10 years of playing, but I think it's certainly useful if you struggle with it
@@awwgordy yeah it takes some adjustments but the last 2 weeks I have been experimenting with it in a lot of planes and 600m vertical targeting can be quite strong sometimes
Concerning the cannon exhaust fumes feeding into the engines. There was a prototype of MiG-9M, featuring a heavily redesigned nose, including weapons being moved to the sides of the nose (37mm to the left and twin 23mms to the right if I recall) in such a way that the muzzles wouldn't extend beyond the intake, solving the issue. However, by the time the prototype was ready, MiG-15 prototype was already made and undergoing testing, essentially making MiG-9 completely obsolete in every metric possible, so MiG-9M project never went anywhere
I actually spaded the Chinese MiG-9 (early) entirely in Ground RB. Used it for CAS and CAP at 7.3 and 8.0, and it was a wonderful experience harassing enemy planes and sniping engine decks on tanks. Was thinking I'd finally take the late model into Air RB, because I once heard it was incredibly good, but this just looks like average to decent.
Same. Tim is one of the few TH-camrs who I literally watch every single video he makes. Even just the historical section makes me care about vehicles I never really cared about. Production quality is 👌🔥🔥🔥
Nice review, as usual. I happened to spade the Mig-9l and the J-2 last week after playing them what feels like ages ago (the German and the Soviet one). It wasn't terrible but after also spading the F-84 and the Sabre it's quite a challenge to hit with those guns again, sometimes I couldn't hit the side of a barn, and rarely you pull off the most amazing (luck) shots. Well they are spaded now and honestly I feel no desire to play them anytime soon :)
The JASDF F-86F-40 commonly gets partnered with the US, so usually that's not a problem since F-104s are so insanely powerful in the otherwise generally sub-to-transonic BR. First-generation IR missiles aren't fast enough to catch an F-104 before they run out of energy, unless the -104 gets *very* slow. As for getting uptiered, F-86s can out-turn basically anything else in uptiers, and the Sidewinders the JASDF one carry allow you to make up for your main weakness by extending your range.
@@TimsVarietyHey Tim, so they've changed alot with the AH-1Z. I don't think its worth a revisit but it is something you should know. It received both the AIM-9M and HMS. Along with this it seems to have also gotten a complete flight model remake so that its yaw performance is no longer terrible. It's useable now. Sadly it no longer sits in the 11.0 lineup for the US. I do hope they'll give it the AGM-114Ks in the future.
Hey Tim, have you ever thought of in the future remaking videos of aircraft and vehicles you have already reviewed so people can see how br and game implementations changed the game?
The Yak-15 WILL be happening sometime in the next few months. It was the very first jet I ever unlocked in War Thunder, and its long overdue for a review.
@TimsVariety That's exciting to hear. I can't wait for when that video comes out since the yak-15 was the first jet I got in war thunder as well and is still kinda the only early jet I have.
@@DanielRamirez-ye9iu well it’s speed is sufficient for the br still an it’s a straight edge wing which makes it perfect for one circles an sizers u are basically a straight edge twin engine mig 15
Does vertical targeting for mig9 and mig15 makes it feel like other regular jets or will it make me shoot much higher at medium distances (600m-800m) ?
the idea of vertical targeting is that both gun shell types hit close at the chosen distance, the shells still have different ballistics so the more your target deviates from the distance the further the 23mm and 37mm shells will be from eachother and the harder will be to hit a target with both
@@TimsVariety i would take the su-9 over the mig-9 (non late) always and also it leads to the "non broken La-200" and the "non dogfigher" La-15 but between the Mig-9(L) and the Su-9 i would take the Mig-9 (L)
It’s a bit ironic how this aircraft in the real world was next to useless in real combat. But alas, it’s a fun plane! Anyways, thanks a ton for that radar tutorial. It’s helped me so much it’s not even funny
I update the tutorials periodically as the snail adds new features and stuff, expect an updated radar tutorial out around the end of the year (I'm expecting a few specific new features in the December update...)
MiG-9 is one of my favourites. In ground RB you'll seldom go up against other jets, so you can easily outrun them. And the large cannon is pretty satisfying. And I'm sure the enemy appreciates dying to cannons rather than bf-109 bombs
i think the best part of the mig 9 as a starter jet is that it teaches you the weird ballistics of the two 23's and the 37, sort of taking some of the load off of you when you finally get into the mig 15
I find the guns extremely hard to get used to
@@Minimeister317 try using weapon selection to focus on just the 23s or the 37, it's not only easier but way better for ammo efficiency
@@awwgordy that and vertical targeting is quite important on those guns
@@oniceguard9205 I personally don't like vertical targeting because I've just gotten used to the divergence in the 10 years of playing, but I think it's certainly useful if you struggle with it
@@awwgordy yeah it takes some adjustments but the last 2 weeks I have been experimenting with it in a lot of planes and 600m vertical targeting can be quite strong sometimes
Concerning the cannon exhaust fumes feeding into the engines. There was a prototype of MiG-9M, featuring a heavily redesigned nose, including weapons being moved to the sides of the nose (37mm to the left and twin 23mms to the right if I recall) in such a way that the muzzles wouldn't extend beyond the intake, solving the issue. However, by the time the prototype was ready, MiG-15 prototype was already made and undergoing testing, essentially making MiG-9 completely obsolete in every metric possible, so MiG-9M project never went anywhere
early jet develpment was quite fast
I actually spaded the Chinese MiG-9 (early) entirely in Ground RB. Used it for CAS and CAP at 7.3 and 8.0, and it was a wonderful experience harassing enemy planes and sniping engine decks on tanks.
Was thinking I'd finally take the late model into Air RB, because I once heard it was incredibly good, but this just looks like average to decent.
It’s always great to see another video from Tim. It’s always great.
dropped everything and came to watch this as soon as I saw the notification
Same. Tim is one of the few TH-camrs who I literally watch every single video he makes. Even just the historical section makes me care about vehicles I never really cared about. Production quality is 👌🔥🔥🔥
Really appreciate a review for one of the early jets.
Back in 2016, this thing slapped
It still does
Same could be said about a lot of planes unfortunately
i actually had a lot of fun even with the MiG-9. and the stock MiG-9 late feels like the spaded MiG-9. i should fly this one out sometime.
Nice review, as usual. I happened to spade the Mig-9l and the J-2 last week after playing them what feels like ages ago (the German and the Soviet one). It wasn't terrible but after also spading the F-84 and the Sabre it's quite a challenge to hit with those guns again, sometimes I couldn't hit the side of a barn, and rarely you pull off the most amazing (luck) shots. Well they are spaded now and honestly I feel no desire to play them anytime soon :)
It’s funny to see how very old jet metas permeate today, namely the AP Belts for the Soviet jets as the Airtargets used to spark constantly
You should review the Japanese F-86F-40, it's a pretty decent plane, just a shame this thing always get uptiered to 9.7 and 10.0 :(
The JASDF F-86F-40 commonly gets partnered with the US, so usually that's not a problem since F-104s are so insanely powerful in the otherwise generally sub-to-transonic BR. First-generation IR missiles aren't fast enough to catch an F-104 before they run out of energy, unless the -104 gets *very* slow.
As for getting uptiered, F-86s can out-turn basically anything else in uptiers, and the Sidewinders the JASDF one carry allow you to make up for your main weakness by extending your range.
jovan telling us he doesn’t fly the F-86F-40 without telling us he doesn’t fly it, LOUDLY, sheesh
I think they need to let you remove the fuel pods.
There are quite a few planes that would benefit from losing wing-end fuel tanks - the A21, the F-84Gs, etc...
Still haven’t touched the Apache… and now that I think about it I’d rather see the AH-1z Viper
Theres gold in my channel playlists ;-)
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@@TimsVarietyHey Tim, so they've changed alot with the AH-1Z. I don't think its worth a revisit but it is something you should know. It received both the AIM-9M and HMS. Along with this it seems to have also gotten a complete flight model remake so that its yaw performance is no longer terrible. It's useable now. Sadly it no longer sits in the 11.0 lineup for the US. I do hope they'll give it the AGM-114Ks in the future.
Hey Tim, have you ever thought of in the future remaking videos of aircraft and vehicles you have already reviewed so people can see how br and game implementations changed the game?
Yes. I've already started one.
Play the yak9t to refresh before flying this, bolth have middling performance, huge guns and low shot counts
Rank 5 USSR air is very lackluster imo and it often feels lacking behind other nations.
nice review as always! can you one day review an early sabre like the f-86A5 or cl13mk4
I have a review up on one of the later model Cl.13's, but I'll get to a name-brand F-86 eventually. :-)
7:00 Whoa, I forgot they added trains as targets. Is this Air RB/SB only? I (for better or worse) usually stick to Air AB even for jets.
All the footage in this review was from RB matches. I honestly can't remember if I've seen trains in any other game mode.
noice one
Hey tim would you be willing to do a review on the Yak-15 one of the most interesting and lowest br jets in the Soviet tech tree?
The Yak-15 WILL be happening sometime in the next few months. It was the very first jet I ever unlocked in War Thunder, and its long overdue for a review.
@TimsVariety That's exciting to hear. I can't wait for when that video comes out since the yak-15 was the first jet I got in war thunder as well and is still kinda the only early jet I have.
Back to Wednesday boys!
Remember kids an unupgraded Mig 9 Late has better performance than a fully upgraded Mig 9.
The mig 9 preforms better at 8.7
How so?
@@DanielRamirez-ye9iu well it’s speed is sufficient for the br still an it’s a straight edge wing which makes it perfect for one circles an sizers u are basically a straight edge twin engine mig 15
It's a bomber interceptor right?
So side climb and hunt bombers?
The challenge becomes that there are fewer and fewer bombers in matches TO intercept ...
Does vertical targeting for mig9 and mig15 makes it feel like other regular jets or will it make me shoot much higher at medium distances (600m-800m) ?
It depends how far out you have the vertical targeting set to.
the idea of vertical targeting is that both gun shell types hit close at the chosen distance, the shells still have different ballistics so the more your target deviates from the distance the further the 23mm and 37mm shells will be from eachother and the harder will be to hit a target with both
Should i get Mig-9 or Su-9 first as first jet plane?
The Mig-9 is probably a better bet, simply because it leads directly to the outstanding Mig-15
@@TimsVariety i would take the su-9 over the mig-9 (non late) always and also it leads to the "non broken La-200" and the "non dogfigher" La-15 but between the Mig-9(L) and the Su-9 i would take the Mig-9 (L)
It’s a bit ironic how this aircraft in the real world was next to useless in real combat. But alas, it’s a fun plane!
Anyways, thanks a ton for that radar tutorial. It’s helped me so much it’s not even funny
I update the tutorials periodically as the snail adds new features and stuff, expect an updated radar tutorial out around the end of the year (I'm expecting a few specific new features in the December update...)