In an age of Netflix, Prime, HBO Max, etc, I recognize the convenience these services provide, but I really do miss the days of going to the video store and renting a few movies for the weekend and making a point to watching them with family and friends. There was just something special about doing that.
We still have family movie night at my house. But you're right. There was just something about having to leave your house and actually go out to get a movie, and knowing you'd better choose wisely or your night was shot. And what was great about video stores was you could get everything there. They sold popcorn, soda, candy as well as the movies. However, modern life does have its compensations. You couldn't lug your TV and VCR with you when you had to go on an emergency trip, or if you had to spend a few days in the hospital. But now I've got my Fire tablet and I can watch a movie wherever there's wifi! Beat that, 1990s!
It’s convenient just because you don’t have to go anywhere but it’s harder to browse and a pain to use. Plus It’s expensive to rent and the selection ain’t as good
Yes, but Gene was absolutely correct...its a satire and there is no shame in laughing at the jokes Now I didn't care for the movie because it just wasn't funny, but Gene definitely won the argument
K Doherty agreed though this was one of those odd discussions where it feels like two people are actually agreeing but there is a misunderstanding somewhere along the way.
@Jimmy Polio - Roger's wife (widow) is black, so I imagine the white guilt ran deep. No matter how funny that movie is, he likely felt guilty while laughing. If it's funny, laugh your ass off and enjoy yourself.
Kids, if you ever see "12 Monkeys", be like Gene and Roj, and watch it twice. Three times if you have trouble paying attention. The main reason is to connect the beginning and the ending, proving that Cole is a hero. The other reason is the complex, but very tight plot, which requires a full understanding to be appreciated. Possibly Gilliam's greatest film and a personal fave.
@@xxcrysad3000xx When Ebert asked Siskel if he would have been OK with such a film about Jewish people, he should have just said "How many times has Mel Brooks done it?" and left it at that. I'm usually with Gene, but Rog was right here.
Never thought a discussion of Being a Menace while drinking your juice in the hood would lead to a serious discussion about art and freedom of speech and jewish history
@@danieldelewis2448 Good dialogue you created there. Did you have contrary beliefs and if so would you like to voice them? Or was your endgame just to belittle my point of view? They are literally describing the current atmosphere at a comedy club.
Brandon Sugiura I know this is a very old comment but I want to say I agree nowadays critics don't really go into much detail or their personal feelings or even discuss like they did about racial issues satire what counts of satire the death penalty of course in other movies and I really miss that I miss critics who weren't afraid to say what they actually really felt about a movie and not be afraid that you know they're going to get back last or they're going to be seen at something bad
They’re right though. That beginning scene with the liquor store clerk and ranger is one of the best acted back and forth scene in history. Michael Parks was sooo good.
Spoilers weren’t really a thing to get upset about at this time It was understood to discuss a movie you had to discuss it w details Social media led to omg spoilers mentality today I’d argue it’s even worse when people binge a whole show in one night then want to discuss it not w insight or critical analysis it’s either the biggest piece of shit ever made or the greatest thing ever Back when shows like this aired if a plot point was discussed it made you want to see the movie more What how did they pull that off kinda thing Again no one cried over spoilers Today you watch a movie review from a TH-cam personality it’s not an analysis of a film but dissection of every character every Easter egg reference the political and cultural inclusion of this or that Some of those things are fine but I don’t need a two hour review of a hour and half film about a superhero
@@seanodeli7031 That’s why I didn’t use the word spoilers, I used to watch Siskel and Ebert reviews in the late 90s and hated the fact that they gave away huge plot points. I didn’t need social media or the Internet to tell me that I like being taken by surprise when enjoying a movie with twists
Spoilers are a new thing that came with the rise of the big TV shows. Back in the day you didn't watch or read reviews if you wanted to go into the cinema and be surprised. The good old days, for me anyway
@@borednow5838 Neither do I actually, lol. Just felt like a being a harsh wise ass. But his behavior was utterly unacceptably rude and pompous at times. Still for the most part, I enjoyed these guys and what they contributed to film criticism. At least they were authentic and relatable unlike so many professional critics today.
I was a faithful watcher from 1980 to the end of Ebert's run. There were only a handful of episodes I missed during all those years. Interesting to look back on their reviews of films that time has either been kind to or have been virtually forgotten. I remember a few worthy movies that didn't deserve their disdain ("Reservoir Dogs," "Brazil," "Splash," and in Roger's corner, "Blue Velvet"), but I always enjoyed watching them talk about something they were clearly so passionate about. They certainly had an impact on me as a developing cinephile.
I always loved this show. I remember it being on Sunday mornings after Saturday night live. I would sneak out to the living room and watch this when I was a kid. So sad they’re both dead
I'm so glad that I missed the reviews for Dusk till Dawn when it came out because I loved the change in genre and was some surprised by it - I made sure not to let my son in on the twist and got almost as much as a thrill watching him watch it and get caught off guard by the second half! Truly a fun movie.
+Foreverlasting Films For the sake of irony, I'm willing to take seriously that statement. I haven't seen HA3 since its theatrical run, but I don't believe it's better than deux. The caliber of talent in 2 cannot be denied (Rob Schneider, Brenda Fricker, Jon Heard). 3 has hardly anyone. Catherine O'Hara didn't even show up for her check.
ikr I was like ur giving away the ending to eye for an eye. I never saw it. but they were terrible at that. they flat out ruined the twist by simply saying she didn't do what she intended the whole film that tells me she doesn't kill him.
@@deathgrinderb3284 These two do spoil a lot of movies. But in Eye for an Eye, while they almost spoil it, their depiction is at least a little vague and leaves you guessing. They've done worse on other movies in regards to late spoilers.
Big props to Roger Ebert! He made plenty of valid points about that shameful and absolutely despicable film by the Wayans brothers! I agree that Gene Siskel was lying about laughing through a film that would depict Jewish people in a negative light! As a proud Haitian-American man, I can easily say that I was disgusted, and embarrassed by this racist film! The fact that it was made by Black people doesn't make it right! The Wayans family should be ashamed of themselves. RIP Roger Ebert. Much respect to you.
I love that movie and I had the pleasure, earlier this year, of watching it with my teenage son who had absolutely no idea what the film was about. It was really cool seeing his shock at the turn point, which when you have no idea - a position which is hard to be in with any movie, especially if you see any advertising or media coverage of films etc., but certainly an enviable position for a movie such as this, and a joy that I hope any parent can share by not giving away any clues for films like this. Dusk till Dawn was definitely one of the flicks that made me completely stop watching adverts or other media previews for features that I was pretty much certain I would watch at some point!
I loved From Dusk Till Dawn, and I actually liked the vampire scenes even better than the beginning which was also good. This is my favorite vampire movie of all time, no sappy romantic crap, the vampires are just pure evil as they should be.
So glad to see Siskel give props to "Safe." It's a very well done examination of "environmental illness" and these days the issue of some persons' hypersensitivity to chemicals is not quite so fringe as it seemed when Haynes made the film. Julianne Moore gives a tremendous performance.
Normally I agree with Ebert more, but I agree with Siskel about "Don't be a Menace to South Central..." Yes, it satirizes some very good films about life in the ghetto, but that's the whole point. It's just giving light to some deep issues that people living there deal with.
I'm enjoying watching these old Siskel and Ebert vids more than any current tv shows. I can imagine these guys wouldn't think much of the current state of film with all of these superhero movies out over and over.
I see Ebert’s point about Menace. We live in a world where promising young black men very often meet an untimely end due to gun violence and/or police brutality. Not something to be treated so frivolously.
The irony is that normally it's the other way around, and Siskel is the one poo-pooing likeable movies while Ebert gives them thumbs up "because he enjoyed it".
"Menace" is not satirizing the good movies that it mimics, it's using the familiar images from those movies to satirize racist stereotypes. Ebert often said he judged a movie based on context, in this case he needed to zoom out just a little bit more, just a little bit, and he would have seen a vaster forest for the trees.
Haha. Yeah, Roger was a little hard on this one, but he was correct. If anyone white was associated with this film, it would instantly be a racist exploitation picture. The only reason we laugh at it is because it's black people making fun of themselves for a change. I found it funny, but probably for the exact reasons Roger mentioned. 9 out of 10 times I agree with Roger's reviews, especially on anything "serious", but he often doesn't like light hearted comedies.
Anyone else notice it was 5 R rated movies? Guess this was shorty before Hollywood became so obsessed with keeping the movies toned down so they could keep their potential audience open to everyone. Glad we are now getting to the other side of it.
Eye for an Eye couldn't be toned down I mean they did the best they could by not showing the rape scene but it was what it was it happens every single day almost in this world to shy away from it would Naive it didbother Kiefer though I heard he almost walked off set but the girl who plays the 17 year old convinced him it was ok and he lso I read he had to seek therapy to keep Doob out of his head after t he film wrapped and its more than a vigilante film once he soughtt out the little one Megan the mother has to kill him she has no choice she did try to back out but then all bets were off she could not risk her baby
and I compare it to the Chrissy scene in Jaws not seeing it in a lot of ways is even more terrifying and horrific especially now as an adult with girls of my own (nieces) but i feel as they are mine I watched that part the other night and was literally pulling my hair going Lord Pls make it stop its almost merciful when he hits her on the head with the ice sculpture and what made it worse was her mother on the other end of the phone Helpless and then when the mother is running inthe stopped traffic begging screaming for help and nobody cares its horrendous her crying and whimpering into the phone is unbearable I do not cry at movies and her saying Mommy help or whatever almosst broke me down the other night
They were doing so well with the good side of their chemistry, and then "Dont Be A Menace" shows the rougher side. These guys could flip so quickly, and that's part of what made them special
*Monkeys This was a really good episode. I love the provocative discussion they had about what was in essence a goofy satire. Only Siskel & Ebert could be that fascinating about it. Well-done, men. 👍🏻 P.S.: I usually agreed with Ebert over Siskel; here I agree with Siskel as I have actually seen the film and liked it.
This is a great episode! I love From Dusk Till Dawn, 12 Monkeys, Don't be a Menace and Eye for an Eye. They were seriously misguided and unnecessarily harsh on Eye for an Eye (along with Ebert on Don't be a Menace) giving it a negative review based on 1 (admittedly poorly written moment) question that was asked in the film that the film isn't even about. There is a lot of great stuff (and other topics) that were overlooked by them from the film.
Totally agree with them about from Dusk Till Dawn. Started out as a good movie and then turned into an entirely different, and no where near as good, movie.
wow, first time I back Siskel over Ebert. I usually agree with Ebert's taste in movies as he isn't above liking a dumb shoot em up long as it's well made. I admit I never watched the entire movie Don't be a Menace, but the clips I seen were pretty damn funny. Maybe I shouldn't laugh at those jokes, but doesn't change my first instinct is to laugh.
Raaid Cotman-El mostly his depiction of the Jewish people in Passion of the Christ. Then about a decade ago...? Not sure exactly when, he went on a racist tirade to a Jewish cop. Something like that. I didn’t google to refresh my memory
@@raaid22 Mel satirized various Jewish stereotypes in: *1.* "The Producers" *2.* "History of the World Part 1" *3.* "Robin Hood: Men in Tights" *4.* "Spaceballs" This is not necessarily a comprehensive list; and obviously, such stereotypes are only "offensive", to those who choose to take offense.
That is actually one of my favorite things about 12 Monkeys, that, as he starts believing that he's mentally ill she simultaneously is starting to believe that he actually is a time traveler. Then she thinks they're BOTH mentally ill when she makes that recording...until he recites it back to her verbatim and now they both know that he really is a time traveler. Great movie. But I often wonder if his psychiatrist, now armed with the info on the virus such as who had it and where it came from, was able to get that info to the right people to change history or if this is a time loop that cannot be altered. I have not seen the 12 Monkeys TV show, so maybe they cover that.
I think it is funny how Kiefer Sutherland played mostly Villananous Roles early in his Career, then after 24- played good Guys- the Hero. Ed Harris started out playing good guys now he mostly plays the Bad Guys.
@@cpmenninga Jack Bauer was a hero sometimes you have to bend the law to do whats right as was Doc Scurlock in the young guns movies as the law back then was on the side of the criminals and he also plays Athos the head Musketeer in the 1993 disney version with Charlie Sheen and Oliver Platt LOL but Doob he is not just a bad guy he is a sick not mental but sicko evil monster Sally had to do what she had to do especially when he made contact with her littlest girl to me this went way beyond vigilante not that i am against that sometimes there is no other option when the system fails us we have to defend our own they did not like this movie because it was reality staring them in the face not an escape like a lot of movies heck it even bothered Poor Kiefer at one point he almost walked away he also needed counseling after the movie he had a young girl of his own and a stepdaughter they were possibly the same ages as the girls in this movie maybe a tad older not sure
I miss Siskel & Ebert so much. The best "across the aisle compare and contrast" film critics. Especially now in the covid era Oh My Fking God I miss the social experience of going to a theater to watch a big cinematic release! Hope to get back to MOVIES sometime soon! Netflix and stay-home torrent downloads is too lonely. What's the point of watching great movies if it's not a shared experience?
Roger rarely ever had a disjointed argument for not liking a film. Agree or disagree, as a critic and writer, mr. Ebert ‘s arguments were usually very well thought out. But, this was the only time where I think he contradicted himself.
I didn't think the don't be a menace movie was all that funny other than a couple parts but i think Roger is taking it a little to serous. All people no matter what there race has something humerous about them.
@@aprilgosa5779, the Monkees were a pop group from the 1960s. (They did "I'm a Believer", "Daydream Believer", and "Last Train to Clarksville", along with the "Hey, hey, we're the Monkees" theme song to their TV show.)
In an age of Netflix, Prime, HBO Max, etc, I recognize the convenience these services provide, but I really do miss the days of going to the video store and renting a few movies for the weekend and making a point to watching them with family and friends. There was just something special about doing that.
We still have family movie night at my house. But you're right. There was just something about having to leave your house and actually go out to get a movie, and knowing you'd better choose wisely or your night was shot. And what was great about video stores was you could get everything there. They sold popcorn, soda, candy as well as the movies. However, modern life does have its compensations. You couldn't lug your TV and VCR with you when you had to go on an emergency trip, or if you had to spend a few days in the hospital. But now I've got my Fire tablet and I can watch a movie wherever there's wifi! Beat that, 1990s!
It’s convenient just because you don’t have to go anywhere but it’s harder to browse and a pain to use. Plus It’s expensive to rent and the selection ain’t as good
it's an embarassment of riches we have now.
1996 Gene- "Why is the future always depressing in these movies" 2022 Me- "Welp"
Back to the Future 3 is one of the few happy futures!
Wow, I wasn’t expecting such a serious discussion about “Don’t be a Menace.”
Yes, but Gene was absolutely correct...its a satire and there is no shame in laughing at the jokes
Now I didn't care for the movie because it just wasn't funny, but Gene definitely won the argument
K Doherty agreed though this was one of those odd discussions where it feels like two people are actually agreeing but there is a misunderstanding somewhere along the way.
Woke Roger vs Red Pilled Gene
@Jimmy Polio - Roger's wife (widow) is black, so I imagine the white guilt ran deep. No matter how funny that movie is, he likely felt guilty while laughing. If it's funny, laugh your ass off and enjoy yourself.
@@socalastarte6727 You do realize most red pilled men are with Asian or Hispanic women. Fix yourself fix love
Kids, if you ever see "12 Monkeys", be like Gene and Roj, and watch it twice. Three times if you have trouble paying attention. The main reason is to connect the beginning and the ending, proving that Cole is a hero. The other reason is the complex, but very tight plot, which requires a full understanding to be appreciated. Possibly Gilliam's greatest film and a personal fave.
Easily Gilliam's best film, and the best film with the involvement of any Monty Python members since the Monty Python films.
Be like me. Buy it.
Time Bandits is fun
Siskel was a BOSS when it came to his review of Don't Be a Menace.
He definitely got the better of Ebert in that argument, which was sorta rare on the show.
He kind of nailed racial bias 25 years before it needed to be.
And P.S. Don't Be a Menace STILL holds up to today and it is still funny.
@@FurEngel absolutely
@@xxcrysad3000xx When Ebert asked Siskel if he would have been OK with such a film about Jewish people, he should have just said "How many times has Mel Brooks done it?" and left it at that.
I'm usually with Gene, but Rog was right here.
back when Clooney was ‘George Clooney from ER’
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Not Academy Award winner yet
He was great in From Dusk Til Dawn.
He's still Clooney from Golden Girls
@@TH-cam-tied His best performance.
Never thought a discussion of Being a Menace while drinking your juice in the hood would lead to a serious discussion about art and freedom of speech and jewish history
Ian Texas Roger felt strongly about blacks. His widow is black.
Ebert felt white liberal guilt and called the movie racist even though it was written by black people
This is the most serious conversation I have seen of “Don’t be a Menace”, also didn’t expect Siskel to enjoy
From Dusk Til Dawn, 12 Monkeys, Don’t Be A Menace...All classics. Just another week in film in 1996. Three classic films in one week? Not in 2020!!
Their Dont be a Menace conversation is so relevant now.
It's funny because your serious about that
@@danieldelewis2448 Good dialogue you created there. Did you have contrary beliefs and if so would you like to voice them? Or was your endgame just to belittle my point of view? They are literally describing the current atmosphere at a comedy club.
Man, this opening music is yanking me back through a time portal.
I miss these 2, too bad they passed!
Brandon Sugiura I know this is a very old comment but I want to say I agree nowadays critics don't really go into much detail or their personal feelings or even discuss like they did about racial issues satire what counts of satire the death penalty of course in other movies and I really miss that I miss critics who weren't afraid to say what they actually really felt about a movie and not be afraid that you know they're going to get back last or they're going to be seen at something bad
Man, that cheesy little Gene and Roger intro makes me so happy...reminds me of simpler times.
It almost made me emotional 😆. It brought me back to my childhood
Reminds me of the music of David Sanborn. Pure sax-laden cheese.
From Dusk till Dawn may not be a classic, but it is a harmless guilty pleasure.
As Gene said: It's like two different movies, and the first half was better.
Started so good. It then throws itself in the garbage disposal!
They’re right though. That beginning scene with the liquor store clerk and ranger is one of the best acted back and forth scene in history. Michael Parks was sooo good.
Yeah, it was a pretty cool watch.
No such thing as a guilty pleasure
These guys have literally no filter when it comes to giving away massive third act plot points
cpmenninga
Easily.
Spoilers weren’t really a thing to get upset about at this time
It was understood to discuss a movie you had to discuss it w details
Social media led to omg spoilers mentality today I’d argue it’s even worse when people binge a whole show in one night then want to discuss it not w insight or critical analysis it’s either the biggest piece of shit ever made or the greatest thing ever
Back when shows like this aired if a plot point was discussed it made you want to see the movie more
What how did they pull that off kinda thing
Again no one cried over spoilers
Today you watch a movie review from a TH-cam personality it’s not an analysis of a film but dissection of every character every Easter egg reference the political and cultural inclusion of this or that
Some of those things are fine but I don’t need a two hour review of a hour and half film about a superhero
@@seanodeli7031 That’s why I didn’t use the word spoilers, I used to watch Siskel and Ebert reviews in the late 90s and hated the fact that they gave away huge plot points. I didn’t need social media or the Internet to tell me that I like being taken by surprise when enjoying a movie with twists
Well yeah. They didn't have the internet to dogpile them with complaints and death threats.
Spoilers are a new thing that came with the rise of the big TV shows. Back in the day you didn't watch or read reviews if you wanted to go into the cinema and be surprised. The good old days, for me anyway
I just love it when these two almost come to blows! :)
Me too! Loved the ending where Siskel just had to get the final word in on DBAM or at least he thought it was the final word....
@@borednow5838 Big Boy (and he really was an overgrown, temperamental boy) had to add his gratuitous 2 cents. Siskel dismissed him like a boss.
@@babymammoth34 Don't care about his appearance just that he was a good film critic and I enjoy listening to him and Siskel.
@@borednow5838 Neither do I actually, lol. Just felt like a being a harsh wise ass. But his behavior was utterly unacceptably rude and pompous at times. Still for the most part, I enjoyed these guys and what they contributed to film criticism. At least they were authentic and relatable unlike so many professional critics today.
@@babymammoth34 I don't think so, watching them since 1988, that was mild, but Gene Siskel was absolutely correct
Yes. They both liked “12 Monkeys”.
Yeah weird they had to see it twice tho, I saw it once in theatres and I was riveted, and bought it on DVD 4 years later.
No reason not to!
12 Monkeys deserved more time it's a masterpiece
I think the fact that they both said they had to see it twice sums up why they likely didn't get too into it. It's a lot to get into.
Makes me really wish he woulda made the man of la mancha
I thought it was well written yet boring.
One of my top 10 Sci-Fi movies ever.
Amazing how what Siskel & Ebert made popular is now primarily on You Tube
Except 95% of film reviews on youtube are by geeks and other complete idiots. These two were professional journalists and film historians.
@@deckofcards87 Yeah, they were almost as solid as Pauline Kael and Leonard Maltin. Almost. Those two had far better manners than Ebert, by the way.
Pauline Kael sucks.
From dusk till dawn is a badass movie
Hollywood Stop screwing over Terry Gilliam he is a movie genius.
I was a faithful watcher from 1980 to the end of Ebert's run. There were only a handful of episodes I missed during all those years. Interesting to look back on their reviews of films that time has either been kind to or have been virtually forgotten. I remember a few worthy movies that didn't deserve their disdain ("Reservoir Dogs," "Brazil," "Splash," and in Roger's corner, "Blue Velvet"), but I always enjoyed watching them talk about something they were clearly so passionate about. They certainly had an impact on me as a developing cinephile.
"One of these films is not like the others. One of these films just doesn't belong."
Don't be a menace is a funny comedy. Very rare.
I forget how good the senior wayans brothers were in the 80s and 90s.
I always loved this show. I remember it being on Sunday mornings after Saturday night live. I would sneak out to the living room and watch this when I was a kid. So sad they’re both dead
I'm so glad that I missed the reviews for Dusk till Dawn when it came out because I loved the change in genre and was some surprised by it - I made sure not to let my son in on the twist and got almost as much as a thrill watching him watch it and get caught off guard by the second half!
Truly a fun movie.
Never forget that Roger gave thumbs up to Home Alone 3 because it "empowers kids."
Home Alone 3> Home Alone 2
+Foreverlasting Films For the sake of irony, I'm willing to take seriously that statement. I haven't seen HA3 since its theatrical run, but I don't believe it's better than deux. The caliber of talent in 2 cannot be denied (Rob Schneider, Brenda Fricker, Jon Heard). 3 has hardly anyone. Catherine O'Hara didn't even show up for her check.
I love HA3.
Pure respect to these gentlemen but boy, did they use to spoil movies in these reviews 😅
ikr I was like ur giving away the ending to eye for an eye. I never saw it. but they were terrible at that. they flat out ruined the twist by simply saying she didn't do what she intended the whole film that tells me she doesn't kill him.
@@deathgrinderb3284 These two do spoil a lot of movies. But in Eye for an Eye, while they almost spoil it, their depiction is at least a little vague and leaves you guessing. They've done worse on other movies in regards to late spoilers.
Big props to Roger Ebert! He made plenty of valid points about that shameful and absolutely despicable film by the Wayans brothers!
I agree that Gene Siskel was lying about laughing through a film that would depict Jewish people in a negative light!
As a proud Haitian-American man, I can easily say that I was disgusted, and embarrassed by this racist film!
The fact that it was made by Black people doesn't make it right! The Wayans family should be ashamed of themselves.
RIP Roger Ebert. Much respect to you.
What a perfect episode, 3 of my favorite actors.
There's something so dryly epic about From Dusk til Dawn that no other film has really captured
I love that movie and I had the pleasure, earlier this year, of watching it with my teenage son who had absolutely no idea what the film was about. It was really cool seeing his shock at the turn point, which when you have no idea - a position which is hard to be in with any movie, especially if you see any advertising or media coverage of films etc., but certainly an enviable position for a movie such as this, and a joy that I hope any parent can share by not giving away any clues for films like this.
Dusk till Dawn was definitely one of the flicks that made me completely stop watching adverts or other media previews for features that I was pretty much certain I would watch at some point!
Great episode
Thanks for posting these videos-brings back a lot of memories, since I never missed an episode back in the day!
I loved From Dusk Till Dawn, and I actually liked the vampire scenes even better than the beginning which was also good. This is my favorite vampire movie of all time, no sappy romantic crap, the vampires are just pure evil as they should be.
I'm from the year 2019, Siskel and Ebert and it is depressing as hell! Plus, in many places, it is dirty and ugly.
Yes, as president they elected this sordid little incubus who looks like a granny.
I'm from 2020, and it's even WORSE here.
@@rumrunner8019 yeah, they're not going to believe how bad it can get.
Hi there. 2021 here. Yeah, it's worse.
So glad to see Siskel give props to "Safe." It's a very well done examination of "environmental illness" and these days the issue of some persons' hypersensitivity to chemicals is not quite so fringe as it seemed when Haynes made the film. Julianne Moore gives a tremendous performance.
Normally I agree with Ebert more, but I agree with Siskel about "Don't be a Menace to South Central..." Yes, it satirizes some very good films about life in the ghetto, but that's the whole point. It's just giving light to some deep issues that people living there deal with.
Agreed. Ebert was as thick as shit there, couldn't get his big mouth head around that. Shame.
Yup. I agree.
I love Roger Ebert and I get where he’s coming from, but Don’t Be A Menace is a great movie.
I love these two guys.
I'm enjoying watching these old Siskel and Ebert vids more than any current tv shows. I can imagine these guys wouldn't think much of the current state of film with all of these superhero movies out over and over.
With Hollywood today just remaking films over and over with everything computer enhanced I'm glad S&E are no longer around to see this trash.
@@sun622 Agree. But maybe they'd call it out more for how bad it's been.
I see Ebert’s point about Menace. We live in a world where promising young black men very often meet an untimely end due to gun violence and/or police brutality. Not something to be treated so frivolously.
I like the way Siskel says "picture." I''m gonna start calling movies pictures.
Listening to them say "pictures" makes me feel inadequate when I say "movies," like it's slang.
@@Jamal3.87Yup.
All 3 great movies!
10:58 Siskel said back in 1996 why is the future always a depressing future.
Now we know why
Ebert's depiction of Menace was spot on, but I still agree with Gene. It's hilarious.
Yup.
Siskel was right about Don't Be a Menace, and Ebert was right about Dawn till Dusk.
Wow, was not expecting Gene to like Don't Be a Menace 😂
Roger needs to lighten up. Don't be a Menace is funny stuff. Go Siskel!
The irony is that normally it's the other way around, and Siskel is the one poo-pooing likeable movies while Ebert gives them thumbs up "because he enjoyed it".
Fuck Siskel.
"Menace" is not satirizing the good movies that it mimics, it's using the familiar images from those movies to satirize racist stereotypes. Ebert often said he judged a movie based on context, in this case he needed to zoom out just a little bit more, just a little bit, and he would have seen a vaster forest for the trees.
Haha. Yeah, Roger was a little hard on this one, but he was correct. If anyone white was associated with this film, it would instantly be a racist exploitation picture. The only reason we laugh at it is because it's black people making fun of themselves for a change. I found it funny, but probably for the exact reasons Roger mentioned. 9 out of 10 times I agree with Roger's reviews, especially on anything "serious", but he often doesn't like light hearted comedies.
@@ernestolombardo5811 this movie isn't satire because it doesn't have anything to say besides aren't black stereotypes funny.
Thank you
Anyone else notice it was 5 R rated movies? Guess this was shorty before Hollywood became so obsessed with keeping the movies toned down so they could keep their potential audience open to everyone. Glad we are now getting to the other side of it.
has to be pg13 and has to have the approval of communist China
@@mikeperry7335 They only want PG 13 movies and dense action films. John Cleese got shit for saying this and he didn't deserve it.
Eye for an Eye couldn't be toned down I mean they did the best they could by not showing the rape scene but it was what it was it happens every single day almost in this world to shy away from it would Naive it didbother Kiefer though I heard he almost walked off set but the girl who plays the 17 year old convinced him it was ok and he lso I read he had to seek therapy to keep Doob out of his head after t he film wrapped and its more than a vigilante film once he soughtt out the little one Megan the mother has to kill him she has no choice she did try to back out but then all bets were off she could not risk her baby
and I compare it to the Chrissy scene in Jaws not seeing it in a lot of ways is even more terrifying and horrific especially now as an adult with girls of my own (nieces) but i feel as they are mine I watched that part the other night and was literally pulling my hair going Lord Pls make it stop its almost merciful when he hits her on the head with the ice sculpture and what made it worse was her mother on the other end of the phone Helpless and then when the mother is running inthe stopped traffic begging screaming for help and nobody cares its horrendous her crying and whimpering into the phone is unbearable I do not cry at movies and her saying Mommy help or whatever almosst broke me down the other night
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Gotta say normally I agreed with Roger, but this time, I was on Gene's side.
When I first took interest in film and analysis, Ebert was my guy, but as I have gotten older, I find myself liking Siskel more and more.
They were doing so well with the good side of their chemistry, and then "Dont Be A Menace" shows the rougher side. These guys could flip so quickly, and that's part of what made them special
Yup.
You know, I don’t agree with Gene’s final verdict about Dusk till Dawn, but I can fully see where he’s coming from.
Vampire Trash picture. SOLD. Thanks Gene
I would Definitely watch a movie called the Twelve Monkees, but I would also watch Twelve Monkeys again.....
I loved from dusk till dawn
La Jetée, the inspiration for 12 Monkeys is a wonderful short film and I recommend it to as many people as possible.
man back in the 90's juliet lewis was in everyting
Yup.
I loved Cheech Marin's carnival barker rap outside the Titty Twister. "If we don't have it, you don't want it".
we got donkey p****
When he called him out for his white guilt 😂. Classic
White guilt is a myth created by insecure people:)
White guilt over a movie written by black people yet he called racist lol
*Monkeys
This was a really good episode. I love the provocative discussion they had about what was in essence a goofy satire. Only Siskel & Ebert could be that fascinating about it. Well-done, men. 👍🏻
P.S.: I usually agreed with Ebert over Siskel; here I agree with Siskel as I have actually seen the film and liked it.
I love watching these two argue! Even when the argument has two different views I agree with them both to a certain degree.
This is a great episode! I love From Dusk Till Dawn, 12 Monkeys, Don't be a Menace and Eye for an Eye. They were seriously misguided and unnecessarily harsh on Eye for an Eye (along with Ebert on Don't be a Menace) giving it a negative review based on 1 (admittedly poorly written moment) question that was asked in the film that the film isn't even about. There is a lot of great stuff (and other topics) that were overlooked by them from the film.
Eye for an Eye is terrible and exploitative
"From Dusk `till Dawn" is so violent that it actually becomes silly. I didn't know a movie could do that.
Don Jones Agreed.
Lol you should check out peter jackson's earlier work before the mid ninties
dont be a menace was absolutely hilarious
Classic 🔥
You tell him Siskel.
Totally agree with them about from Dusk Till Dawn. Started out as a good movie and then turned into an entirely different, and no where near as good, movie.
Yeah. I wanted to like it. I love horror movies. The problem was it was a shitty horror movie. The writing turned infantile.
I like how they say the future is always depressing in movies. Terry Gilliam was a visionary.
12 Monkees and from dusk till dawn not great but entertaining to watch. Enjoyed both movies.
Deadman walking really was a good movie. The twist was an excellent indictment of the death penalty.
Yup.
Gene was so dead on with Don't be a menace lol.
wow, first time I back Siskel over Ebert. I usually agree with Ebert's taste in movies as he isn't above liking a dumb shoot em up long as it's well made. I admit I never watched the entire movie Don't be a Menace, but the clips I seen were pretty damn funny. Maybe I shouldn't laugh at those jokes, but doesn't change my first instinct is to laugh.
Ebert feels white guilt over a film he calls racist that was written by Black people
"Would you like this movie if it were making fun of jews?"
[Enter Mel Brooks.]
I know some of Mel's movies but not a lot. In What movies does he lean into offensive Jewish stereotypes?
Raaid Cotman-El mostly his depiction of the Jewish people in Passion of the Christ. Then about a decade ago...? Not sure exactly when, he went on a racist tirade to a Jewish cop. Something like that. I didn’t google to refresh my memory
@@raaid22 Mel satirized various Jewish stereotypes in:
*1.* "The Producers"
*2.* "History of the World Part 1"
*3.* "Robin Hood: Men in Tights"
*4.* "Spaceballs"
This is not necessarily a comprehensive list; and obviously, such stereotypes are only "offensive", to those who choose to take offense.
You’re thinking of Mel Gibson dawg. Mel Brooks is the Looney Tunes, Spaceballs guy.
@@jerrisgilbert5256 I already told him that.
I wonder what Gene would have thought about "The Hebrew Hammer"
Who the F doesn't like Dusk till Dawn=! I laughed all the way how crazy it gets.
They should have mentioned how awful that scene with Sally Field and her daughter on the phone was to watch.
Roger was very ahead of time about menace to society. That movie most likely wouldn't be made today.
That is actually one of my favorite things about 12 Monkeys, that, as he starts believing that he's mentally ill she simultaneously is starting to believe that he actually is a time traveler. Then she thinks they're BOTH mentally ill when she makes that recording...until he recites it back to her verbatim and now they both know that he really is a time traveler. Great movie. But I often wonder if his psychiatrist, now armed with the info on the virus such as who had it and where it came from, was able to get that info to the right people to change history or if this is a time loop that cannot be altered. I have not seen the 12 Monkeys TV show, so maybe they cover that.
LOL Love it!
I think it is funny how Kiefer Sutherland played mostly Villananous Roles early in his Career, then after 24- played good Guys- the Hero. Ed Harris started out playing good guys now he mostly plays the Bad Guys.
Wait, are you saying he was a hero in 24?
@@cpmenninga - A little Sarcasm?
@@cpmenninga Jack Bauer was a hero sometimes you have to bend the law to do whats right as was Doc Scurlock in the young guns movies as the law back then was on the side of the criminals and he also plays Athos the head Musketeer in the 1993 disney version with Charlie Sheen and Oliver Platt LOL but Doob he is not just a bad guy he is a sick not mental but sicko evil monster Sally had to do what she had to do especially when he made contact with her littlest girl to me this went way beyond vigilante not that i am against that sometimes there is no other option when the system fails us we have to defend our own they did not like this movie because it was reality staring them in the face not an escape like a lot of movies heck it even bothered Poor Kiefer at one point he almost walked away he also needed counseling after the movie he had a young girl of his own and a stepdaughter they were possibly the same ages as the girls in this movie maybe a tad older not sure
Yup.
@@aprilgosa5779_ Thank You for Your Comment.
clip from movie: "I don't know, it's just the way I feel, I don't know what I think"
Siskel: "yup, that's it!"
me: lol
I still think 12 Monkeys is Brad Pitt's best performance.
"12 Monkees" HAHAHA!!! Davey, Mike, Peter, Mickey....Joe, Leonard, Juan, Marc, Robbie,Gary, Brian & Charlie.
Vigilante Sally Field, my ass blew off from laughing :D
Why all the hating on Brazil? It's one of the top 100 movies ever made (I say) and certainly Gilliam's best film. BTW, I also loved 12 Monkeys.
do you have the show where they review Dark City, 1998?
I miss Siskel & Ebert so much. The best "across the aisle compare and contrast" film critics. Especially now in the covid era Oh My Fking God I miss the social experience of going to a theater to watch a big cinematic release! Hope to get back to MOVIES sometime soon! Netflix and stay-home torrent downloads is too lonely. What's the point of watching great movies if it's not a shared experience?
It’s just that in movie theaters people are always on their iPhones now.
It drives me nuts.
I remember seeing this episode if just for their review of "Dusk to Dawn." The movie seemed so weird to me because of this review I've never seen it.
Youbetcha I'd recommend it, it's just different.
@@UxCANxDOxIT If it's written by Tarantino, it can't be too bad.
I agree with Roger about "Don't Be a Menace."
16:45 people are still yelling at each other about freedoms of what you can and cannot say in 2019
Roger rarely ever had a disjointed argument for not liking a film. Agree or disagree, as a critic and writer, mr. Ebert ‘s arguments were usually very well thought out. But, this was the only time where I think he contradicted himself.
Before “24”, Sutherland mainly played a menacing creep, quite convincingly.
Actually, he also had his niche "smart,romantic loner dude" roles.
Young Guns, the Cowboy Way. Flatliners. There were quite a few more than those 3.
Yup. He was so good at playing those kinds of parts.
His father, Donald Sutherland has been one of my favorite actors going back to the 70s with MASH, Kelly's Heroes, Don't Look Now.
I love Brazil
simply... safe you say
I didn't think the don't be a menace movie was all that funny other than a couple parts but i think Roger is taking it a little to serous. All people no matter what there race has something humerous about them.
3:27 besides Romero movies , even simply Vampire movies too.
Damn I thought From Dusk til Dawn was a great twist, they shouldn’t have ruined it
Lol! "12 Monkees" would have been a very different movie!
Most women were probably just thrilled when Brad Pitt moons the camera LOL I didn't watch I was little
@@aprilgosa5779, the Monkees were a pop group from the 1960s. (They did "I'm a Believer", "Daydream Believer", and "Last Train to Clarksville", along with the "Hey, hey, we're the Monkees" theme song to their TV show.)
A hard f on national tv? Man times were different.