I've been out of the night life for a while now. Back in the 1995-2014 range people didn't really want to share drinks aside from maybe one person having a sip of some alcohol. We certainly didn't pass a drink around bc we all knew that it would spread germs. And now it seems as if people are saying they regularly pass around a vape? We passed cannabis around bc that's just how it was done. But if people are passing around nicotine like it's a weed smoking event, idk. lol
@@imorvitthat’s what i was gonna say. they might not wanna get sick but vaping with eventually hurt you or make you sick. they should have just banned vapes they are very bad for you. how to stop spreading sickness by vapes: ban vapes 👇ban vapes button
@@imorvitThe extra stress from quitting nicotine cold turkey when also trying to quit using whatever landed then in rehab is going to be very counter productive.
I think that's even worse than sharing one set of tonsils and a plate to feed the same amount of people, because vaping is by far more invasive and affects parts of the body that are not as well protected as your stomach is. Regardless, I cannot see anyone sharing their dishware with that much people willingly, while not at all strange to see vape pen or similar getting passed on.
Omg I once had an abscess in my throat and I literally did not know why. Everything they suggested just was not even a factor in my life... just realized it might have built up after an untreated case of strep throat. I learned a thing I didnt even think I'd learn today, doc. Thnx.
My old boss went out one night, got totally trashed and used her vape way more than normal. Next day, she said her throat was really sore, I'm not a Dr, but I said, let me look. It was disgusting, I don't know how she was managing to swallow. She still vapes, but keeps it in check when she's drinking. I'm still continuing to hound her about quiting. I'm going to enjoy the long video that comes out in the next few years, saying told ya so!
@@Nixter52 Just FYI... Hounding people to do something usually doesn't work well. In fact, people may put their heels down and resist the idea even more if they are continually hounded about it.
I'm really glad you're talking about this. On Sept 23rd, 10 years ago, my husband found me in a catatonic state. I was rushed to a hospital and ended up in a medically induced coma with group A strepp pneumonia. I had yet to be diagnosed with Pickwickian Syndrome. This made the infection much worse. I had almost no symptoms. The night before I had a mild sore throat. When I looked I saw a few white spots and thought I better get that checked out tomorrow. Tomorrow almost didn't come. Everyone, please be careful. This infection is no joke!!
I think a good rule of thumb is that if the person isn't someone you'd be willing to tongue kiss them and anyone they've tongue kissed recently, then you shouldn't be sharing items that go in the mouth.
Yup, that's my reasoning when it comes to sharing food as well. If someone took a bite of something, I ain't eating it even if they say they are full and offer the rest to me. Only time I did accept, was with my ex. Because I was fine with her mouth bacteria coming in contact with mine.
Exactly, I can't understand why people can't figure this themselves? If you put it in your mouth or between your lips (bottles, a bite of food, vapes) then of course there is saliva on it! Do you wanna share spit and all the nasties that could be in it? I sure don't...
That's the joke rule that we pass around in the harmonica world... would you be willing to kiss them? If not, don't share a harmonica... But as I was watching this it occurred to me that maybe that wasn't such a good rule. Say I walk into a roomful of beautiful female harmonica players... should I risk using all of their harmonicas? Now, if there is a particular female harmonica player that I am, in fact, on kissing terms with, regularly kissing, yeah, it's probably okay to share a harmonica with them. Same goes for a vape... just because someone you would kiss offers you a vape doesn't mean you should take it. It's not all that hard to get your own harmonica or own vape if you really want to play or to vape, but unless you are getting the benefits of getting to make out with someone, why swap spit?
I had mono in highschool. I went to urgent care and they misdiagnosed me with a throat abscess and gave me antibiotics. I ended up going to the real dr and she did a blood test and confirmed I had mono and needed to stop the antibiotics. Some sometimes it’s the medical providers themselves who over use antibiotics on patients. But also. Always get a second opinion.
Happened to me too, because I only had tonsillitis and they thought at 16 I should have more symptoms of mono :D they gave me antibiotics and I got that rash
Always have a board certified practicioner you actually trust, that's much better advice, always getting a second opinion can be very detrimental if the first opinion was correct.
@@agargamer6759 because my mom is a registered nurse and disagreed with urgent cares assessment. Plus I think we had also already scheduled with the pediatrician prior to going to urgent care. We only went to urgent care cuz the pain and selling was so bad and I couldn’t wait to be seen by the actual dr. Plus we wanted to rule out the obvious strep.
Kids as young at 13-14, probably younger, vape. There are parents who even let their kids vape. Yeah, sure, there are vape sensors in the bathrooms in schools, but the kids blow it in the toilet or use their hoodies. It's so awful and sad. Thanks for the video, Dr. Mike. Vaping definitely needs to be talked about more often...
What I find ironic is that vaping was originally meant to help people get off cigarettes. But now people who have never smoked before are vaping as a leisure activity. Misusing and abusing the original idea behind vapes
There is no such thing as vape sensors. It is called vape for a reason because you exhale the evaporated oil hence the name. Those are for cigarettes and weed which does not evaporate instead it lingers which is the same reason you can hotbox a car with weed but not vape.
That’s such a great advice! You will definitely be an amazing father one day. Not only because you’re a doctor, but also because VAPING AND EVEN SMOKING CIGARETTES is not healthy. Teaching your kids to be healthy and not smoke or worse, drink alcohol, is a great advice. I was never a vaping fan. When I was younger, due to the bad influence from the other people, I did smoke cigarettes, and now I realize how stupid I was for doing that to myself. Now I finally pulled myself together and I will never want to touch cigarettes ever again. Let’s just say that this was somehow an experience and I will definitely know how to make my future children to stay away from the bad influence. Thank you, Mike for bringing this very important subject up. ❤️
I agree. But, don't be too hard. Your children will learn just as you did how stupid they were to have used cigarettes and will have that experience too. But, advising is undoubtedly going to help. 🤗
My parents still haven't dropped the habit even after 14/15 years of it, even though they've tried, but they just couldn't get through the withdrawal symptoms. They tried vaping before it was cool though, but luckily, they stopped before it turned into a serious habit for them. And yes, I know, most people consider addiction a disease, but I luckily don't look at it that way. When you look at a habit as a disability or disease, you victimize yourself, and personally, I don't really like being or even looking like a victim.
Same when I bring up exercise stuff to the newly excited freshmen who can't wait to get into the gym to ego lift. It's one of the reasons I like to jump back and forth between AthleanX videos and Jeff Nippard videos. Especially Jeff Nippard, since he really goes into depth for the scientific studies behind his research.
I really hope the team sees this. This could help a lot of viewers with their own health questions AND help them feel more included in the Doctor Mike community.
Dude, I had never even thought about this before. I don’t vape, but I see my friends sharing vapes all the time, with their acquaintances and strangers. I’m sharing this with everybody. Thank you.
In Latin America we have a drink called "mate" and it's basically a social drink that you drink from a metal straw and share around with other people. Since COVID a lot of people have started bringing their own mate to social gatherings to avoid sharing, but it is still very much a big part of our culture to drink from the same one. This would be our equivalent to vaping, since vaping isn't a thing here, but I haven't noticed it cause any type of throat issues in anyone, at least not in Argentina. It's very interesting to see how practically the same activity has different reactions in two different places, probably due to the fact that we're exposed to different things.
@rileynguyen8880 Oh it's been a thing here for hundreds of years. It's the equivalent to getting offered a cup of tea in England lol Also just because mate is a social drink it doesn't mean everything else is shared, if you get any other drink you wouldn't share it, it's specifically with mate.
@@CarmieKarm Probably the difference is that you're drinking it rather than inhaling it. Our stomachs are used to dealing with other people's bacteria, our lungs aren't.
I must say I have enormous respect for you (Dr Obaz) considering the manners in which I received my complete treatment for Hpv after taking your medication. God bless you for coming through for me Doc!!!!!
As someone who would get get Strep almost every month when I was in my teens, it feels completely different than ones that I get now. It is most likely a coincidence, but I stopped get Strep throat infections once I got my tonsils removed at the of 20. While I still get sore throats every now and then, it is nothing to like when I was younger. Thanks for this video. So glad I don’t vape or smoke anything.
I love the proof section and stating that there isn’t a ton of research on it yet. Given the risk/benefit of the advice “don’t share vapes”, I think it was a great idea to share this info as soon as possible. Stay safe! ❤
i used to smoke, vaping keeps me from smoking. When i heard "a group of people pass around a single vape" i cringed. Sounds like a good way to get herpes lol. To quote Dave Chappelle: "how about we all leave with the lips we came in with"
Yeah... I was thinking he'd be talking about re-infecting yourself or the build up of bacteria on your own if you don't clean it. Maybe it's my age but I never knew sharing vapes was a thing. But I also never shared cigarettes, so...
Wow, I never really thought of it that way. I always thought “oh I know this person so it’s okay” Definitely won’t be sharing anything with anyone anymore. Thank you doctor Mike!! 💜
I'm curious now: if you didn't know about infection risks, why would you share things you put in your mouth with people you know and not with strangers?
Wow, this is literally insane. I literally a few weeks ago had someone asked me did I want to share their vape with them? And I said no. I stopped doing that a long time ago because I got sick when I use someone's vape. It definitely does make sense. And think about it, there's a lot of bars that have vaping stations and people share vapes. It's just something I can never participate in again. If I do decide to vape again I'm going to have my own vape and no one can touch it
So much good information packed into a short video. Especially the part about distinguishing between viral and bacterial infections, and how overuse can lead to antibiotic resistance by bacteria. Sometime I would love you to delve into the routine use of antibiotics in animal feed in order to fatten them up faster. This causes animal borne antibiotic resistant bacteria to spread resistance to bacteria that infect humans. Walmart has an entire portion of their meat section devoted to antibiotic free meats. I do not eat beef or pork, but the harvest land brand of chicken has been confirmed by mother Jones magazine as living up to their pledge of " no antibiotics ever." I have talked to my personal physicians about this, and they agree with me that people should stop eating and selling these meats, but find it too controversial to talk to patients about. Dr Mike, you're fearless!
Back in the height of COVID a guy I worked with had a conversation with his doctor. Because we work at a college, a lot of the students vape. He asked his doctor "Since they say COVID spreads on droplets, what about vape clouds?" That made his doctor think a bit and he confirmed that suspicion, that vape clouds can absolutely spread COVID around.
Exactly why during highschool when they started letting kids go back, (at least my school) had a zero tolerance vaping poilcy. Knowing about how many viruses and bugs love to hang out and spread through water vapour, I won't go near anyone vaping while walking down the street and honestly annoys me so much when people vape obnoxiously.
Dr. Mike, as a tobacco harm reduction advocate I appreciate you not just blasting vaping itself here. I think most people misunderstand vaping and vapers. If you don't smoke, don't vape. If you are smoking, vaping is a much safer and the most effective alternative. And yes there is data showing this. There are other alternatives as well, like snus. When it comes to sharing germs vaping isn't the issue at hand here, common sense is. That's all that's required. Thanks.
What about switching from cigarettes to the nicotine patch and using a THC vape? Or is it healthier to smoke a joint? I'm asking because I wonder what is worse, inhaling any kind of smoke vs vapors or only cigarette smoke vs nicotine vapors?
@@phaedrapage4217 Smoke is always worse because you are combusting whatever material it is, tobacco or weed and there are tons of byproducts from doing that. Smoking weed is definitely better than tobacco, there are all kinds of additives and fillers in cigarettes for a lot reasons like low tar and flavor consistency. There are literally thousands of chemicals in cigarettes. Smoking weed definitely creates some byproducts like carbon monoxide and benzene plus there might be some chemicals that were used for growing the plant and because its not processed like a THC vape is a lot of them could remain. For that reason vaping is always going to be the less risky option. THC vapes are just turpines, thinning agents (things like VG & PG which nicotine vapers have been vaping for over a decade without issue) and food-safe flavors. But something like switching to a nicotine patch and vaping THC is going to be about as low risk as you can get. Certainly better than smoking either weed or cigarettes.
omg I remember getting mono as a kid. Initially my doctor thought it was strep so I took amoxicillin and things got so much worse. I can also remember the medicine being thick, white, and chalky so I thought the doctor gave me medicine that gave me mono. Was sent to an ENT doctor and that was the first time I can remember getting blood work done. I was out of school for a month.
Knowing that Phillip Morris (The same people behind brands like Marlboro) makes vapes themselves, I bet they and multiple other companies like British American Tobacco basically knew Cigarettes were dying as something that was guaranteed socially acceptable so they had to find a new way to make it "Cool" and thus, Vapes are now the new Cigarette.
I smoke marijuana but I decided to quit after getting sick and feeling like i was going through psychological and mental issues. I feel so much better after not smoking just for a day .... and I had Good dream for the first time instead of nightmares. Anyways thank u doctor Mike! God bless all of you guys :)
I don’t vape and I never will. Also,you can’t just share “stuff” with your friends. Protect your personal health at all costs. I’ve had my friends since I was a little kid,but we never shared things between us especially when saliva is involved. And we respect that in our friendship it’s not weird or anything;you just never know what can happen. Glad you made a video about this! Loving those black scrubs so much❤️
You sound very ignorant with a hint of prudeness. Sharing might not be in your culture but it's in others. Some of us share out of respect yet you judge those who do.
I never paid close attention to your editing but damn they are well done. From transitional elements, to overlays and sound effects. I know it’s unrelated to the video but send me compliments to the editor 😚 🤌
Educational, per usual. ❤ I just hope other docs on social media don't harass Dr. Mike the same way they did concerning RSV and mental health's effect on physiological pain. This man should not have to defend himself for every opinion he has!
Knowing that we're back to sharing stuff that raises hygienic issues resulting to health problems makes me miss the time were coughing/sneezing was a crime.
i'm so glad you talked about the full body rash caused by amoxicillin when you have mono. i literally had the same thing happen to me and i've always thought i was allergic to amoxicillin, turns out, one year later i find out i have mono
Mike, could you do a video spotlighting PANDAS disease? My best friend's daughter has it and it's related to Strep. It doesn't get much attention, but has a big impact on young children that suffer with it. Thanks Mike!
"Social Sharing" is the cause of a great many outbreaks I think. We're social creatures, we thrive on social interaction. It's rare for someone to be a true loner and not interact with anyone unless they absolutely HAVE to (I'm one such person). I get "sick" very very rarely as a result of my non-interactivity. My "illnesses" are more related to my joint health and Malignant Hyperthermia condition. The flu? The common cold? Hell, even Covid? I honestly can't remember the last time I got sick with a bug like those... It's been well over two decades now. Don't share body fluids unless you mean to be intimate, folks! :)
I quit smoking and vaping years ago, but most of my friends still partake in the activies. I had NEVER in my life, even while watching them ask "hey can i hit your vape?" and pass it around, did I ever consider sharing vapes spreading illness. I'm glad Dr. Mike is shedding light on this possibility, but I don't think it will be easy to stop people from sharing vapes because there's a huge stigma if you don't share a hit or two. You're considered rude or a bih if you don't let someone hit the strep stick
Hey Doctor Mike. Could you do an episode on the health effects of nicotine specifically? With the rise in popularity of products like Zyn, it’s raising a lot of questions about safety. Specifically, are there cardiovascular side effects or dermatological side effects? Thank you!
Some of the latest studies are actually showing that nicotine itself could have neuroprotective properties. It is a mild stimulant though less so than caffeine though I would assume the negatives would be similar.
@@dougallen6978 I have also read that nicotine can disrupt endothelial function and lead directly to greater risk of stroke and heart disease. I think the discussion is extremely confusing.
Regarding vaping and all those who seem to think it’s harmless: I substitute teach, and I had a student I think three years ago who confided in me that he was trying to stop vaping because his slightly older cousin, a heavy user, had become seriously ill and had to have a double lung transplant. As I recall, the condition was then being called “popcorn lung.” My recollection is that the sick boy was 17 or 18.
You can’t get popcorn ling from vapes anymore. They removed the chemical from the vape juice that could have potentially caused popcorn ling. To date there is t a single documented case of popcorn lung being caused by a vape pen. There were workers in factories that produced the now banned chemical that did get popcorn lung though, and that’s what caused that chemical to be banned from vape juice.
that "older cousin" must have used black market juice that contained diacetyl, diacetyl is not found in public market juice and is heavily regulated due to it toxic nature when aerosolized, on the off chance it was juice that did not contain this chemical the cancer research UK has already identified that ecigs don't cause popcorn lung.
Vaping is honestly a terrible thing. Not in the sense it does bad things to you but in the sense we were achieving record lows of smokers year on year. But now that going up because of vaping because it’s not being used to get people off cigarettes but by people who have never touched cigarettes. And sure its not nearly as bad a cigarettes, but the healthiest thing for most people is to not put anything other than air into your lungs. And a seemingly hidden fact is a lot of vape companies are owned by the same cigarette companies that lied to us about the safety of smoking.
While we are talking about vaping a few days ago I got jumpscared by a exploding vape battery. I think there was building up pressure inside it and a car drove over it and it explode or something. I Never expected to be jumpscare by a battery but everything can happen
batteries usually don't just explode without good reason , it would have been due to stress put on the battery and that likely would be due to a short caused by making contact with conductive material like people leaving a battery in their pocket without some kind of proper casing or the battery has defects or is generally at the end of it's cell life and is fired on something like a custom built mod that does not have voltage regulation and other safety features. It is quite rare for a battery to explode without it being caused by ignorant people misusing them. I've been vaping since pretty much the start when voltage regulation wasn't really a thing yet and never had a battery explode because i made sure i knew how they worked and didn't do stupid things like try to build my own coils with the wrong material where the battery would short and cause fire or boom. It does happen but people keep passing around the same ignorance and misinformation creating phobias about something pretty harmless and relatively safe when in responsible hands. The car going over a battery maybe could cause it to explode but i even find that to be pretty unlikely though hard to say since i don't have more details. Yes batteries can make a pretty loud pop as they are holding a lot of energy and vape batteries are designed to discharge that energy quickly unlike something like one used in a digital clock or watch or even phones. anyway i'm done ranting, just wanted to clear up some things even if it is sub par.
I'm 30 years old and never smoked in my life, the only thing I'm proud of in myself.... Although I have chronic sinus illness only treated by surgery which I cannot afford anyway so it doesn't matter lol
I subscribed today, after watching your videos for a really long time. I have a “medical team” for my SLE/CNS lupus and immunology due to a COMPLETE mannose Lectin Binding deficiency (the COMPLETE lack is what makes it an issue). I have been dealing with this for more than 30 years. Some of my great friends are er nurses. I DO NOT trust pharma or medical professionals anymore and this has developed over the past two years. I doubt I ever will again and I’ve had the same doctors for 30 years because if I find a doctor that doesn’t pull punches, that’s the dr I want. I’m 52, I don’t give a damn anymore. No more meds, no more tests and no longer bothering with doctors. Rheumatologist says I’ll be dead in five years without treatment, so be it. Most medical professionals don’t actually care about their patients or hear them, how I ended up in the hospital because my adrenal gland failed. I had been to the dr multiple times bc I was having hallucinations and passing out all the time. The passing out at my desk repeatedly made my boss think I was sleeping all the time. It cost me my job. Sorry but my trust and faith is gone.
Back in highschool I knew this girl who would pass around a vape/dab pen with her friends. It was probably like 5-7 girls who were all sharing it. One week I noticed that basically all of those same girls weren't in any classes I usually had with them. I messaged the one I knew best asking if she needed notes and she told me that the whole group of them started getting strep after one of them had it.
I came to this realization while I was hosting a friends party at my house and just listening to people spilling tea about some of the people there. They were talking about how they won’t share their vape w a certain person and as someone who doesn’t Vape and who does smoke but exclusively solo it didn’t occur to me until that moment that smoking devices are pathogens for various diseases. It made me glad I don’t socially smoke and share
A few years ago I went into the emergency room because I had this freckle like pattern that appeared on my feet and lower legs. They were tiny red spots. My legs were quite red as well and it hurt to stand/walk. The er doctors were so perplexed. They took bloodwork and other samples. I waited for a while before they told me they think it’s Scarlet Fever, which I guess is like a more effed up version of strep. That was awful. I could not walk around for a few days because of how painful it was. I hope that never happens again!
I am also a Family Medicine doctor like Dr. Mike. I agree sharing a vape pen increases the risk of infections such as strep, but do not forgot all the extra things someone touches while going on vacation. For example, when you hand your ID to the TSA to look at, the TSA officer has touched hundreds if not thousands of other ID's that day (some from people who are ill). You sit in the germy airport chair, airplane seats, exchange money, touch the slots, poker chips, door handles, etc. So in my humble opinion, the added exposure of touching all those surfaces is why people often come back ill (strep or virus) from vacations.
At school we were doing trivia about the middle school Director and there were three options and we had to say which one was real the first option was she. Donated a kidney in the second option was doing life-saving chest compressions in the middle of a hike
When i had strep as a kid, my dad was about to deploy overseas and we either had the choice of pills, or the peanut butter shot, and for those who don't know what that is, it is a shot of Benzylpenicillin, or penicillin G (PenG) that is used for a bunch of bacterial infections including but not only strep, tetanus, and diphtheria. And as anyone who has gone through boot camp will tell you hurts ten times worse than getting stung by a bee. And the worst bit is, they do it on your buttcheek so you actually can't sit right for a few days. But boy did it do the job well, in just a few minutes my throat stopped hurting and i didn't feel sick.
i’ve been vaping for about a year and have noticed my throat and chest starting to feel weird lately and even though i started working out six months ago i get short of breath even quicker than i did when i was obese. i started because i wanted something to curb my appetite and at the time i wasn’t in a good place mentally so i honestly didn’t care how bad it was for me, and i’m quitting next week when i can afford to bulk buy a few months worth of nicotine patches. the government in my country is banning one time use vapes because of the amount of kids who get their hands on them, i hope it comes into effect soon
banning single use vapes is like cutting the leaves off of the weeds in your garden, it is not the root of the issue and is silly. parents are the key and that is a social issue and one that the government should stay away from. Communities need to educate their members and reach out to those parents and help that way. kids can't buy these things as it is already illegal to sell to minors and the way kids get them are through their parents, or friends that have parents that buy it for them. The kids get it from third party sources and that again is a community issue and a parenting issue at large and i can't stress that enough.
What kind of vape you using? Most vape in the US are unregulated. Personally I have no problem with my own vape mod in Malaysia cause there is serious control in vape laws over here. You guys don't exactly had the best reputation when it comes to vapes.
@@xarisvantan Compared to smoking, anything is healthy. Doesn't mean vaping is good for you in the least. It CAN and WILL mess your health up. Whether tomorrow or in a few decades. Vape lungs is already a thing with illegal vape juice that had oil in it burning people's lungs from the inside.
A kid I work with ended up with a severe throat inflammation for some reason, don't know if it was strep or what. Doctor told her to stop vaping until it healed. She refused, she'd use her vape and literally cry because of the sheer awful pain it was causing her....and then do it again a few hours later. There's something wrong with people.
This video was actually extremely fascinating. As a teenager, I see a lot of other kids vaping around me and I NEVER understood the hype and still don’t. I love the “strep stick” nickname. Great video btw 💗
It's a combination of hype and addiction. Smoking or vaping is seen as badass because of 80s and 90s movies and teenagers want to be cool (believe me, I was a teen once). Second is, vaping leaves no smell, is relatively cheap and a lot of websites deliver them to you without checking your age and in discreet packaging (if you ask them). It starts off with trying to be cool and ends up with a person being addicted. And vapes are popular because of the reason above. They're very hard to detect as they leave no smell so grown-ups can't catch you and they come in "fun" flavors.
I was diagnosed with covid by one doctor without being given a proper test and when I went to a second doctor they did do a test and it came back positive for strep and negative for covid so I think during the pandemic so many doctors are so quick to diagnose everything as covid. I think that's part of the reason why we are seeing such an uptick in cases of flu or strep now because not everything is being blamed on covid anymore. But this absolutely makes 100% sense. Why would you willing share that with anyone?
I'd also like to point out, most people that vape chronically vape. Not a doctor so I'm not sure how strep appears, but vaping chronically dries out your throat out to the extreme. I'd assume this has some impact on how easily strep can infect/grow
just drink more fluids. and yes i'm guessing it is the propylene glycol that is most commonly used in the vape juices as the delivery chemical that allows nicotine to be inhaled the way that it is. If you just drink plenty of fluids it will likely counteract that issue. Been vaping for a long time and i've noticed getting dry mouth and air way from time to time if i'm not giving myself enough fluids and taking breaks from the constant bombardment of the stuff. I am otherwise quite healthy other than my lack of working out and not eating my weakness of carne asada fries. There is also my oral health but that was already screwed before i ever vaped so the nicotine probably didn't help with that.
The exact opposite would be true. Dry throat is a symptom of soar/strep throat, not a cause. Bacteria and virus would be less likely to infect/grow in a dry environment. Careful with your assumptions.
@@Daytruin you know, you're the most sensible vaper I've ever seen. Almost every one I've ever met thinks it's a miracle substance that does absolutely nothing negative to your body in any way, and the media and doctors are lying. You seem well-informed and self aware. Hopefully you can kick the habit someday.
I don`t advocating for smoking and vaping, it`s people`s personal choice, but what people need to understand, that vapes must be an individual device like any medical equipment, syringes inhalers etc. That`s all. It`s a simple hygiene issue. Кстати, привет Михаил, хороший канал, хороший контент.
It's weird though...My main symptom that I had when I had COVID was a very sore throat and it felt like strep throat. However, I no longer can get strep throat since I got my tonsils removed when I was 20. Funny though, I got them removed since I was constantly getting strep throat, but I don't vape at all nor did I back then.
Lol, strep stick, fantastic name for them Dr Mike. I can see it being viable, a wet damp tube with saliva and god knows what else in it and people just passing it around willy nilly. I don't smoke, never have and never will and if I ever vape I'm sure as heck not gonna be sharing it around.
I had strep my first year at college. Even though I was miserable for a weekend (because my school's health and wellness center didn't open until 9AM on Mondays and I got it late Friday night) it taught me about the magic of antibiotics. I'm also not a huge fan of people who smoke and vape because of the damage they're voluntarily doing to themselves.
I wonder if strep was just considered an all-time low during covid because most primary care offices were closed and many people, who would have been seen and diagnosed with strep, stayed at home and were not formally (for data wise) diagnosed with strep. Not promoting vaping or sharing any germs, just thinking in general most the strep infections are with the pediatric population who will always pass around everything (share drinks. not wash hands...), they were for the most part not seen in office by covid (unless emergency- which strep is not), so less diagnosis. Though vaping, besides for the harm it causes, can also be a source of spreading germs (not just strep).
Is there an increased infection risk if you don't share the vape? I wonder, since nicotine weakens the immune system, or maybe the throat gets irritated or injured by the heat?
The throat can definitely get injured by the heat. I don't vape nicotine, but my favorite singer used to. He went to the doctor, the doctor asked what the hell he was doing, because it looked like someone had just burned his throat. He quit vaping and smokes cigs here and there now. Guess that's better than having a burnt throat, I still wish he would quit cigs too!
I had strep once. All the way back when I was a kid in 2010. I wish I could remember if I had any kind of contact like sharing a beverage with someone that might have caused it. I do remember going out to eat the night before I had symptoms. I also remember years later a friend of mine got it and wonder how she even managed to catch it. Strep is no joke and definitely should be treated. I remember the ER telling me it was a really bad case. The nurse barely had to swab me and still turned out to be a positive test. She said she could smell the strep breath 😖
One thing I think you should factor into your theory. Most vapes are vegetable glycerin based. Mouth pieces don’t dry, they stay wet for a long time. So now you have a suburb ready for move in for all the bacteria accumulated from a shared vape. Another point, the accumulation of dirt, pocket lint, etc that eventually makes it way in there as well. Keep your mouth tip covers folks.
They made vaping a felony in Houston because of the vast spike mainly in schools. It decreased true. But it's back on the rise. It's crazy when I see kids walking around coughing like they about to die, in my eyes I view them as dumb and dumber😂
Can you speak about the harms of vaping on a realistic level? I vape and am really uneducated on the possible consequences due to misinformation, however you're a doctor I trust to do the most research to come up with some really helpful, possibly life saving information I could fall back on to motivate me to quit.
Nicotine is a neurostimulant which promotes faster brain function. Inhalation isn't the best route of administration, but vaping with propylene glycol and not vegetable glycerine should be faar better than smoking a ciggie. Patches are available and work quick but most consumers like the inhalation and hit. You can make your own patches or droppers to drop under tongue as alternative to vaping No info on sharing vapes, but I consider it the same as sharing a bowl of cereal. Up to the owner of the body to decide the risks of herpes, strep, mono, flu, ect. We have amazing complex immune systems yes, buut we cannot fight off herpes.
Would you ever talk about the long-term effects of chemicals in our drinking water in America? Not a lot of people cover it. We all know how detrimental drugs can be by now but there are other things killing us.
I’m concerned about this also. I’ve been hearing about forever chemicals too. No wonder American children are experiencing endocrine & hormonal problems.
0:52 - And sometimes a patient tells you their throat hurts worse than strep, something is seriously wrong, and they feel antibiotics would be the smart choice, but the doctors say "nah, you tested negative for strep." Then 3-4 days later, the doctor calls you up in a panic & says your lab tests came back positive for *STAPH INFECTION* in your throat, and you NEED to get on antibiotics ASAP... Imagine how mad you'd be if you tried pleading with your doctor & explaining you had strep many times as a kid, but this is significantly worse, only to be denied. I lost 10 lbs in a week, couldn't swallow anything, had to let jello melt in my mouth & drip down my throat, as the staph infection grew worse for days before the doctor put me on antibiotics. It was one of the worst infections/illnesses I've ever had. Staph in the THROAT was miserable.
I just want to add in reference to the Vegas anecdote: the air in vegas is extremely dry, the tap water is pretty gross (at least in my experience) and there is smoking indoors in the casinos and many other bars and clubs. Last time I went without a humidifier I thought I had covid every morninf I woke up my throat hurt so bad. It was entirely just the dryness and second hand smoke. But yeah, if you're gonna vape, don't share pens, it's a cesspool of bacteria.
Dr. Mike, with all due respect, DUH! The fact this needs to be pointed out makes me worry about our species. Putting something in your mouth that has been in someone else's mouth is like letting them spit in your mouth. Doesn't matter what it is- a vape, a pipe, a straw, whatever.
I had strep several years ago, no idea where it came from. It was the worst throat pain i've ever experienced, i'm no bich, but the pain was easily 9/10. I used the sprays (no effect), i used strong pain relief (a mild effect). Going to the doctor and asking for meds was almost as painful as having the virus. Every time you swallow your spit it was hot razor blades.
Sometimes strep presents a-typically, especially in kids, so if you are sick and not getting better just get the strep test done! My son tested positive for strep with none of the usual symptoms.
I don't vape but i did get strep throat when my kids were little while my then husband was in Puerto Rico and my parents were in San Diego. It was hell but I finally was able to drive myself to the ER one morning after taking them to school and, sure enough, I had strep and a peritonsillar abscess. I barely remember that day but thankfully a friend of my mom's daughter was able to pick me up and help me with my little kids.
Not sure if someone has also asked: My main question is if second-hand vaping causes any issues as second-hand smoking does. While I don't personally smoke or vape, a ton of students around me do. Even if someone isn't sharing a vape with someone else, that exhale out could also pollute the air with bacteria and viruses. If I'm wrong about any of this, please correct me! :)
it definitely does cause issues like second-hand smoking, but that’s with the chemicals. Apart from sharing the vape which spreads germs, I don’t think it changes the amount of bacteria and viruses that people breathe out without a vape anyways? idk lol
I have gone to many concerts and festivals this summer and I see that all the time, and more. While I smoke my inhaler being surrounded in a sea of people vaping in my face, many times people are sharing. And being rubbed against people can making you sick too and yet I still go.
This legit happened in my vicinity at my job over the summer. One person had COVID but they shared their vape pen and by the next day half of the staff tested positive. I knew I was negative as I tested multiple times (as an asthmatic I have similar symptoms). Thankfully dodged a bullet on that one.
Sharing spoons and utensils can also spread strep in children. It is very important to treat strep throat in children, as the risk of heart and kidney damage is higher in children.
DR Mike in one of your videos you said that you will never wear black scrubs again cuz people don't really trust on the one who wears black scrubs and now you are wearing it although it is looking good on you and we already do trust you but when I saw you in those scrubs I just remembered that short and that's why I out of curiosity just commented about those scrubs 😶🌫😶🌫😶🌫😶🌫😶🌫
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I worked at a drug & alcohol rehab facility. They had to make a rule about no sharing vapes to try to curb spreading sickness.
Honestly should've outright banned vapes, they are just so unbelievably bad.
I've been out of the night life for a while now. Back in the 1995-2014 range people didn't really want to share drinks aside from maybe one person having a sip of some alcohol. We certainly didn't pass a drink around bc we all knew that it would spread germs. And now it seems as if people are saying they regularly pass around a vape? We passed cannabis around bc that's just how it was done. But if people are passing around nicotine like it's a weed smoking event, idk. lol
@Bentley-cg6nlShut uppppp and stop posting this in response to every comment!
@@imorvitthat’s what i was gonna say. they might not wanna get sick but vaping with eventually hurt you or make you sick. they should have just banned vapes they are very bad for you.
how to stop spreading sickness by vapes: ban vapes
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@@imorvitThe extra stress from quitting nicotine cold turkey when also trying to quit using whatever landed then in rehab is going to be very counter productive.
This video is so validating for all the times I have to ask my boyfriend not to share vapes at parties.
Studies had shown, men whom are in a relationship with women live longer.
I guess be a pain in the ...ss have its benefits. 😅
I think that's even worse than sharing one set of tonsils and a plate to feed the same amount of people, because vaping is by far more invasive and affects parts of the body that are not as well protected as your stomach is. Regardless, I cannot see anyone sharing their dishware with that much people willingly, while not at all strange to see vape pen or similar getting passed on.
Didn’t the full-scale evolution of Homo sapiens begin with the invention of penicillin?
@@Mr.Zoodle bro I think you need to go back to school (or stay in it) because that is not correct at all lmao
It seems like vaping passing around more saliva than sharing a cigarette or a drink.
Omg I once had an abscess in my throat and I literally did not know why. Everything they suggested just was not even a factor in my life... just realized it might have built up after an untreated case of strep throat. I learned a thing I didnt even think I'd learn today, doc. Thnx.
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My old boss went out one night, got totally trashed and used her vape way more than normal. Next day, she said her throat was really sore, I'm not a Dr, but I said, let me look. It was disgusting, I don't know how she was managing to swallow. She still vapes, but keeps it in check when she's drinking. I'm still continuing to hound her about quiting. I'm going to enjoy the long video that comes out in the next few years, saying told ya so!
@Bentley-cg6nl hey
@@Nixter52 Just FYI... Hounding people to do something usually doesn't work well. In fact, people may put their heels down and resist the idea even more if they are continually hounded about it.
I'm really glad you're talking about this. On Sept 23rd, 10 years ago, my husband found me in a catatonic state. I was rushed to a hospital and ended up in a medically induced coma with group A strepp pneumonia. I had yet to be diagnosed with Pickwickian Syndrome. This made the infection much worse.
I had almost no symptoms. The night before I had a mild sore throat. When I looked I saw a few white spots and thought I better get that checked out tomorrow. Tomorrow almost didn't come.
Everyone, please be careful. This infection is no joke!!
I think a good rule of thumb is that if the person isn't someone you'd be willing to tongue kiss them and anyone they've tongue kissed recently, then you shouldn't be sharing items that go in the mouth.
Yup, that's my reasoning when it comes to sharing food as well. If someone took a bite of something, I ain't eating it even if they say they are full and offer the rest to me. Only time I did accept, was with my ex. Because I was fine with her mouth bacteria coming in contact with mine.
@@TetraSky Good practice, too bad food is too good for me to deny them sharing.
@@angelavara4097 hot
Exactly, I can't understand why people can't figure this themselves? If you put it in your mouth or between your lips (bottles, a bite of food, vapes) then of course there is saliva on it! Do you wanna share spit and all the nasties that could be in it? I sure don't...
That's the joke rule that we pass around in the harmonica world... would you be willing to kiss them? If not, don't share a harmonica...
But as I was watching this it occurred to me that maybe that wasn't such a good rule. Say I walk into a roomful of beautiful female harmonica players... should I risk using all of their harmonicas? Now, if there is a particular female harmonica player that I am, in fact, on kissing terms with, regularly kissing, yeah, it's probably okay to share a harmonica with them.
Same goes for a vape... just because someone you would kiss offers you a vape doesn't mean you should take it. It's not all that hard to get your own harmonica or own vape if you really want to play or to vape, but unless you are getting the benefits of getting to make out with someone, why swap spit?
I had mono in highschool. I went to urgent care and they misdiagnosed me with a throat abscess and gave me antibiotics. I ended up going to the real dr and she did a blood test and confirmed I had mono and needed to stop the antibiotics. Some sometimes it’s the medical providers themselves who over use antibiotics on patients. But also. Always get a second opinion.
Happened to me too, because I only had tonsillitis and they thought at 16 I should have more symptoms of mono :D they gave me antibiotics and I got that rash
Always have a board certified practicioner you actually trust, that's much better advice, always getting a second opinion can be very detrimental if the first opinion was correct.
Just curious, was there any specific reason you went to a different doctor after being prescribed antibiotics by urgent care?
@@agargamer6759 because my mom is a registered nurse and disagreed with urgent cares assessment. Plus I think we had also already scheduled with the pediatrician prior to going to urgent care. We only went to urgent care cuz the pain and selling was so bad and I couldn’t wait to be seen by the actual dr. Plus we wanted to rule out the obvious strep.
@@dannymoneywellalso more expensive
Kids as young at 13-14, probably younger, vape. There are parents who even let their kids vape. Yeah, sure, there are vape sensors in the bathrooms in schools, but the kids blow it in the toilet or use their hoodies. It's so awful and sad. Thanks for the video, Dr. Mike. Vaping definitely needs to be talked about more often...
What I find ironic is that vaping was originally meant to help people get off cigarettes. But now people who have never smoked before are vaping as a leisure activity. Misusing and abusing the original idea behind vapes
@@Mster_J I remember that when they first came out. Now they contain nicotine...
They’ve always contained nicotine that’s the point you vape nicotine to quit smoking cigarettes
@@snazzy740 I remember the way they advertised, it seemed that they didn’t at the time.
There is no such thing as vape sensors. It is called vape for a reason because you exhale the evaporated oil hence the name. Those are for cigarettes and weed which does not evaporate instead it lingers which is the same reason you can hotbox a car with weed but not vape.
That’s such a great advice! You will definitely be an amazing father one day. Not only because you’re a doctor, but also because VAPING AND EVEN SMOKING CIGARETTES is not healthy. Teaching your kids to be healthy and not smoke or worse, drink alcohol, is a great advice. I was never a vaping fan. When I was younger, due to the bad influence from the other people, I did smoke cigarettes, and now I realize how stupid I was for doing that to myself. Now I finally pulled myself together and I will never want to touch cigarettes ever again. Let’s just say that this was somehow an experience and I will definitely know how to make my future children to stay away from the bad influence. Thank you, Mike for bringing this very important subject up. ❤️
It's not "vaping or even smoking cigarettes", cigarettes are still much worse than vaping (which does not make vaping good, it is bad for you).
I agree. But, don't be too hard. Your children will learn just as you did how stupid they were to have used cigarettes and will have that experience too. But, advising is undoubtedly going to help. 🤗
My parents still haven't dropped the habit even after 14/15 years of it, even though they've tried, but they just couldn't get through the withdrawal symptoms. They tried vaping before it was cool though, but luckily, they stopped before it turned into a serious habit for them. And yes, I know, most people consider addiction a disease, but I luckily don't look at it that way. When you look at a habit as a disability or disease, you victimize yourself, and personally, I don't really like being or even looking like a victim.
@@CoasterMan13Officialvaping is better than smoking so
Neither are better mreli both are toxic both are bad for the environment and both are strep sticks
Being a former science teacher, scientific research like this has always been fascinating to me. Keep the videos coming
God bless you and Jesus loves you very much ❤
There is literally no scientific research to be found in this video
Same when I bring up exercise stuff to the newly excited freshmen who can't wait to get into the gym to ego lift. It's one of the reasons I like to jump back and forth between AthleanX videos and Jeff Nippard videos. Especially Jeff Nippard, since he really goes into depth for the scientific studies behind his research.
@@reignellwalker9755God is the real god, not Jesus, Jesus is a prophet that God sent him, and also, I don't hate your religion.
he said this was purely anecdotal in the video...
Can your team start including photo's of rashes or etc on different skin tones when speaking about skin reactions? ❤
This is such a good suggestion. Hope they see this.
Upvoting for visibility. 100% agree with this suggestion.
I really hope the team sees this. This could help a lot of viewers with their own health questions AND help them feel more included in the Doctor Mike community.
That would be inclusive and interesting, nice suggestion.
This! Because it's really hard for me to find pictures of different kinds of rash on brown skin.
Dude, I had never even thought about this before. I don’t vape, but I see my friends sharing vapes all the time, with their acquaintances and strangers. I’m sharing this with everybody. Thank you.
In Latin America we have a drink called "mate" and it's basically a social drink that you drink from a metal straw and share around with other people. Since COVID a lot of people have started bringing their own mate to social gatherings to avoid sharing, but it is still very much a big part of our culture to drink from the same one. This would be our equivalent to vaping, since vaping isn't a thing here, but I haven't noticed it cause any type of throat issues in anyone, at least not in Argentina.
It's very interesting to see how practically the same activity has different reactions in two different places, probably due to the fact that we're exposed to different things.
@rileynguyen8880 Oh it's been a thing here for hundreds of years. It's the equivalent to getting offered a cup of tea in England lol
Also just because mate is a social drink it doesn't mean everything else is shared, if you get any other drink you wouldn't share it, it's specifically with mate.
@rileynguyen8880 She's from Argentina. So if your Latin friends aren't from there, "mate" will be unfamiliar, or the custom goes by a different name.
@@CarmieKarm Probably the difference is that you're drinking it rather than inhaling it. Our stomachs are used to dealing with other people's bacteria, our lungs aren't.
@@japanpanda2179 That is absolutely fair and makes a lot of sense!
@@BombshElle_7 It's a popular drink in most of South America, not just in Argentina! :)
I must say I have enormous respect for you (Dr Obaz) considering the manners in which I received my complete treatment for Hpv after taking your medication. God bless you for coming through for me Doc!!!!!
Ive been a huge stickler for genuine knowledge lately i love watching your videos Dr. Mike they are very informative
I definitely needed the extra 24 hours. The strep throat was so bad that I was afraid of swallowing because of the pain, and I hadn't eaten for 2 days
As someone who would get get Strep almost every month when I was in my teens, it feels completely different than ones that I get now. It is most likely a coincidence, but I stopped get Strep throat infections once I got my tonsils removed at the of 20. While I still get sore throats every now and then, it is nothing to like when I was younger. Thanks for this video. So glad I don’t vape or smoke anything.
I love the proof section and stating that there isn’t a ton of research on it yet. Given the risk/benefit of the advice “don’t share vapes”, I think it was a great idea to share this info as soon as possible. Stay safe! ❤
Can literally watch this all day
i used to smoke, vaping keeps me from smoking. When i heard "a group of people pass around a single vape" i cringed. Sounds like a good way to get herpes lol. To quote Dave Chappelle: "how about we all leave with the lips we came in with"
Yeah... I was thinking he'd be talking about re-infecting yourself or the build up of bacteria on your own if you don't clean it. Maybe it's my age but I never knew sharing vapes was a thing. But I also never shared cigarettes, so...
Wow, I never really thought of it that way. I always thought “oh I know this person so it’s okay” Definitely won’t be sharing anything with anyone anymore. Thank you doctor Mike!! 💜
I'm pretty sure you're fine sharing things that you don't put in your mouth
I'm curious now: if you didn't know about infection risks, why would you share things you put in your mouth with people you know and not with strangers?
Wow, this is literally insane. I literally a few weeks ago had someone asked me did I want to share their vape with them? And I said no. I stopped doing that a long time ago because I got sick when I use someone's vape. It definitely does make sense. And think about it, there's a lot of bars that have vaping stations and people share vapes. It's just something I can never participate in again. If I do decide to vape again I'm going to have my own vape and no one can touch it
Please don’t vape, if you were able to quite stick with it the outcomes are not worth the quick feeling and flavored air :(
Who wishes Dr. Mike to be their doctor and teacher
When I was vaping I didn’t have any cold, flu, covid or strep throat. When I quit - oh my God, I’ve started having cold like every month. Soooo idk
Me who doesn’t inhale mint air and used to eat boogers as a kid and has an insane immune system 👍
It has been scientifically proven that eating boogers helps build your immunity to colds & flu.
see i knew it was smart eating sand and dirt and licking walls
@@fanafelgminecraft5789 I used to eat sand, boogers, and drink from the water hose. I get sick maybe once a year sometimes not at all now.
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I still eat boogers!
Great Video, Dr. Mike! 🙂Thanks for educating Patients/Viewers in a easily understood way!
I actually quit vaping because I never got strep throat but after beginning, it became a consistent factor in my life. Glad I got off of it.
So much good information packed into a short video. Especially the part about distinguishing between viral and bacterial infections, and how overuse can lead to antibiotic resistance by bacteria.
Sometime I would love you to delve into the routine use of antibiotics in animal feed in order to fatten them up faster. This causes animal borne antibiotic resistant bacteria to spread resistance to bacteria that infect humans. Walmart has an entire portion of their meat section devoted to antibiotic free meats. I do not eat beef or pork, but the harvest land brand of chicken has been confirmed by mother Jones magazine as living up to their pledge of " no antibiotics ever." I have talked to my personal physicians about this, and they agree with me that people should stop eating and selling these meats, but find it too controversial to talk to patients about. Dr Mike, you're fearless!
Back in the height of COVID a guy I worked with had a conversation with his doctor. Because we work at a college, a lot of the students vape. He asked his doctor "Since they say COVID spreads on droplets, what about vape clouds?" That made his doctor think a bit and he confirmed that suspicion, that vape clouds can absolutely spread COVID around.
the school bathroom is covid concentrate, explains why my friends who frequented the bathrooms kept getting covid
Exactly why during highschool when they started letting kids go back, (at least my school) had a zero tolerance vaping poilcy. Knowing about how many viruses and bugs love to hang out and spread through water vapour, I won't go near anyone vaping while walking down the street and honestly annoys me so much when people vape obnoxiously.
@@BallistikKittythey didnt have that before?
@@OrangeDied They did, unfortunately it wasn't strictly enforced
Love this new style of videos
Dr. Mike, as a tobacco harm reduction advocate I appreciate you not just blasting vaping itself here. I think most people misunderstand vaping and vapers. If you don't smoke, don't vape. If you are smoking, vaping is a much safer and the most effective alternative. And yes there is data showing this. There are other alternatives as well, like snus. When it comes to sharing germs vaping isn't the issue at hand here, common sense is. That's all that's required. Thanks.
What about switching from cigarettes to the nicotine patch and using a THC vape? Or is it healthier to smoke a joint? I'm asking because I wonder what is worse, inhaling any kind of smoke vs vapors or only cigarette smoke vs nicotine vapors?
@@phaedrapage4217 Smoke is always worse because you are combusting whatever material it is, tobacco or weed and there are tons of byproducts from doing that. Smoking weed is definitely better than tobacco, there are all kinds of additives and fillers in cigarettes for a lot reasons like low tar and flavor consistency. There are literally thousands of chemicals in cigarettes. Smoking weed definitely creates some byproducts like carbon monoxide and benzene plus there might be some chemicals that were used for growing the plant and because its not processed like a THC vape is a lot of them could remain. For that reason vaping is always going to be the less risky option. THC vapes are just turpines, thinning agents (things like VG & PG which nicotine vapers have been vaping for over a decade without issue) and food-safe flavors. But something like switching to a nicotine patch and vaping THC is going to be about as low risk as you can get. Certainly better than smoking either weed or cigarettes.
omg I remember getting mono as a kid. Initially my doctor thought it was strep so I took amoxicillin and things got so much worse. I can also remember the medicine being thick, white, and chalky so I thought the doctor gave me medicine that gave me mono. Was sent to an ENT doctor and that was the first time I can remember getting blood work done. I was out of school for a month.
Tell em Mike
Loved the informative video doc i’m always happy to learn from you and your vids
Same
A short video but very informative!!!! I wish the whole world could see it
Frustrating how close we were to ending a culture of smoking, then vapes came to town, marketing addictions like candy.
Knowing that Phillip Morris (The same people behind brands like Marlboro) makes vapes themselves, I bet they and multiple other companies like British American Tobacco basically knew Cigarettes were dying as something that was guaranteed socially acceptable so they had to find a new way to make it "Cool" and thus, Vapes are now the new Cigarette.
I smoke marijuana but I decided to quit after getting sick and feeling like i was going through psychological and mental issues. I feel so much better after not smoking just for a day .... and I had Good dream for the first time instead of nightmares. Anyways thank u doctor Mike! God bless all of you guys :)
I don’t vape and I never will. Also,you can’t just share “stuff” with your friends. Protect your personal health at all costs. I’ve had my friends since I was a little kid,but we never shared things between us especially when saliva is involved. And we respect that in our friendship it’s not weird or anything;you just never know what can happen. Glad you made a video about this!
Loving those black scrubs so much❤️
yes same ill never vape because the thought of vaping or smoking it kinda scares me so ill never evr try it and plus its bad for ur body too
What?? Can’t you wipe it off or something?
You sound very ignorant with a hint of prudeness. Sharing might not be in your culture but it's in others. Some of us share out of respect yet you judge those who do.
you’re so cool maria. i hope to be like you one day
I never paid close attention to your editing but damn they are well done. From transitional elements, to overlays and sound effects. I know it’s unrelated to the video but send me compliments to the editor 😚 🤌
thank you mike for sharing your experience with many l hop3 your Chanel will grow and prosper
Educational, per usual. ❤ I just hope other docs on social media don't harass Dr. Mike the same way they did concerning RSV and mental health's effect on physiological pain. This man should not have to defend himself for every opinion he has!
Knowing that we're back to sharing stuff that raises hygienic issues resulting to health problems makes me miss the time were coughing/sneezing was a crime.
i'm so glad you talked about the full body rash caused by amoxicillin when you have mono. i literally had the same thing happen to me and i've always thought i was allergic to amoxicillin, turns out, one year later i find out i have mono
And it was the life-saving chest compressions. I said Dr. Mikey would be really proud. She had no idea who I was talking about.
Mike, could you do a video spotlighting PANDAS disease? My best friend's daughter has it and it's related to Strep. It doesn't get much attention, but has a big impact on young children that suffer with it. Thanks Mike!
You should do a video how people are starting to smoke again for the community and aesthetic
"Social Sharing" is the cause of a great many outbreaks I think. We're social creatures, we thrive on social interaction. It's rare for someone to be a true loner and not interact with anyone unless they absolutely HAVE to (I'm one such person). I get "sick" very very rarely as a result of my non-interactivity. My "illnesses" are more related to my joint health and Malignant Hyperthermia condition. The flu? The common cold? Hell, even Covid? I honestly can't remember the last time I got sick with a bug like those... It's been well over two decades now. Don't share body fluids unless you mean to be intimate, folks! :)
I quit smoking and vaping years ago, but most of my friends still partake in the activies. I had NEVER in my life, even while watching them ask "hey can i hit your vape?" and pass it around, did I ever consider sharing vapes spreading illness. I'm glad Dr. Mike is shedding light on this possibility, but I don't think it will be easy to stop people from sharing vapes because there's a huge stigma if you don't share a hit or two. You're considered rude or a bih if you don't let someone hit the strep stick
4:53 "next time someone offers vape, say "no thanks" wise words from a wise man
Hey Doctor Mike. Could you do an episode on the health effects of nicotine specifically? With the rise in popularity of products like Zyn, it’s raising a lot of questions about safety. Specifically, are there cardiovascular side effects or dermatological side effects? Thank you!
Some of the latest studies are actually showing that nicotine itself could have neuroprotective properties. It is a mild stimulant though less so than caffeine though I would assume the negatives would be similar.
@@dougallen6978 I have also read that nicotine can disrupt endothelial function and lead directly to greater risk of stroke and heart disease. I think the discussion is extremely confusing.
Regarding vaping and all those who seem to think it’s harmless: I substitute teach, and I had a student I think three years ago who confided in me that he was trying to stop vaping because his slightly older cousin, a heavy user, had become seriously ill and had to have a double lung transplant. As I recall, the condition was then being called “popcorn lung.” My recollection is that the sick boy was 17 or 18.
You can’t get popcorn ling from vapes anymore. They removed the chemical from the vape juice that could have potentially caused popcorn ling. To date there is t a single documented case of popcorn lung being caused by a vape pen. There were workers in factories that produced the now banned chemical that did get popcorn lung though, and that’s what caused that chemical to be banned from vape juice.
that "older cousin" must have used black market juice that contained diacetyl, diacetyl is not found in public market juice and is heavily regulated due to it toxic nature when aerosolized, on the off chance it was juice that did not contain this chemical the cancer research UK has already identified that ecigs don't cause popcorn lung.
Please do a take on Water Tok it’s so crazy,
I love your videos ❤
Vaping is honestly a terrible thing. Not in the sense it does bad things to you but in the sense we were achieving record lows of smokers year on year. But now that going up because of vaping because it’s not being used to get people off cigarettes but by people who have never touched cigarettes. And sure its not nearly as bad a cigarettes, but the healthiest thing for most people is to not put anything other than air into your lungs.
And a seemingly hidden fact is a lot of vape companies are owned by the same cigarette companies that lied to us about the safety of smoking.
While we are talking about vaping a few days ago I got jumpscared by a exploding vape battery. I think there was building up pressure inside it and a car drove over it and it explode or something. I Never expected to be jumpscare by a battery but everything can happen
Exactly. it def could kill you, not only in just one slow way 😉
batteries usually don't just explode without good reason , it would have been due to stress put on the battery and that likely would be due to a short caused by making contact with conductive material like people leaving a battery in their pocket without some kind of proper casing or the battery has defects or is generally at the end of it's cell life and is fired on something like a custom built mod that does not have voltage regulation and other safety features. It is quite rare for a battery to explode without it being caused by ignorant people misusing them. I've been vaping since pretty much the start when voltage regulation wasn't really a thing yet and never had a battery explode because i made sure i knew how they worked and didn't do stupid things like try to build my own coils with the wrong material where the battery would short and cause fire or boom. It does happen but people keep passing around the same ignorance and misinformation creating phobias about something pretty harmless and relatively safe when in responsible hands.
The car going over a battery maybe could cause it to explode but i even find that to be pretty unlikely though hard to say since i don't have more details. Yes batteries can make a pretty loud pop as they are holding a lot of energy and vape batteries are designed to discharge that energy quickly unlike something like one used in a digital clock or watch or even phones.
anyway i'm done ranting, just wanted to clear up some things even if it is sub par.
This is really good advice and I'll adjust my behaviour accordingly
Not data but logically. Great advise.
I'm 30 years old and never smoked in my life, the only thing I'm proud of in myself.... Although I have chronic sinus illness only treated by surgery which I cannot afford anyway so it doesn't matter lol
I think this is 100% correct. As a college student I can attest to their usage, and the commonality of sharing vapes. I've often thought this
Keep up the great work mike
I subscribed today, after watching your videos for a really long time. I have a “medical team” for my SLE/CNS lupus and immunology due to a COMPLETE mannose Lectin Binding deficiency (the COMPLETE lack is what makes it an issue). I have been dealing with this for more than 30 years. Some of my great friends are er nurses. I DO NOT trust pharma or medical professionals anymore and this has developed over the past two years. I doubt I ever will again and I’ve had the same doctors for 30 years because if I find a doctor that doesn’t pull punches, that’s the dr I want. I’m 52, I don’t give a damn anymore. No more meds, no more tests and no longer bothering with doctors. Rheumatologist says I’ll be dead in five years without treatment, so be it. Most medical professionals don’t actually care about their patients or hear them, how I ended up in the hospital because my adrenal gland failed. I had been to the dr multiple times bc I was having hallucinations and passing out all the time. The passing out at my desk repeatedly made my boss think I was sleeping all the time. It cost me my job. Sorry but my trust and faith is gone.
Back in highschool I knew this girl who would pass around a vape/dab pen with her friends. It was probably like 5-7 girls who were all sharing it. One week I noticed that basically all of those same girls weren't in any classes I usually had with them. I messaged the one I knew best asking if she needed notes and she told me that the whole group of them started getting strep after one of them had it.
I came to this realization while I was hosting a friends party at my house and just listening to people spilling tea about some of the people there. They were talking about how they won’t share their vape w a certain person and as someone who doesn’t Vape and who does smoke but exclusively solo it didn’t occur to me until that moment that smoking devices are pathogens for various diseases. It made me glad I don’t socially smoke and share
A few years ago I went into the emergency room because I had this freckle like pattern that appeared on my feet and lower legs. They were tiny red spots. My legs were quite red as well and it hurt to stand/walk. The er doctors were so perplexed. They took bloodwork and other samples. I waited for a while before they told me they think it’s Scarlet Fever, which I guess is like a more effed up version of strep. That was awful. I could not walk around for a few days because of how painful it was. I hope that never happens again!
Amazing video Mike. I’ve never vaped and never will
Me too. Once someone vaped at my school and it smelled absolutely horrible.
Well if you don't smoke then you obviously never will
I am also a Family Medicine doctor like Dr. Mike. I agree sharing a vape pen increases the risk of infections such as strep, but do not forgot all the extra things someone touches while going on vacation. For example, when you hand your ID to the TSA to look at, the TSA officer has touched hundreds if not thousands of other ID's that day (some from people who are ill). You sit in the germy airport chair, airplane seats, exchange money, touch the slots, poker chips, door handles, etc. So in my humble opinion, the added exposure of touching all those surfaces is why people often come back ill (strep or virus) from vacations.
At school we were doing trivia about the middle school Director and there were three options and we had to say which one was real the first option was she. Donated a kidney in the second option was doing life-saving chest compressions in the middle of a hike
When i had strep as a kid, my dad was about to deploy overseas and we either had the choice of pills, or the peanut butter shot, and for those who don't know what that is, it is a shot of Benzylpenicillin, or penicillin G (PenG) that is used for a bunch of bacterial infections including but not only strep, tetanus, and diphtheria. And as anyone who has gone through boot camp will tell you hurts ten times worse than getting stung by a bee. And the worst bit is, they do it on your buttcheek so you actually can't sit right for a few days. But boy did it do the job well, in just a few minutes my throat stopped hurting and i didn't feel sick.
i’ve been vaping for about a year and have noticed my throat and chest starting to feel weird lately and even though i started working out six months ago i get short of breath even quicker than i did when i was obese. i started because i wanted something to curb my appetite and at the time i wasn’t in a good place mentally so i honestly didn’t care how bad it was for me, and i’m quitting next week when i can afford to bulk buy a few months worth of nicotine patches. the government in my country is banning one time use vapes because of the amount of kids who get their hands on them, i hope it comes into effect soon
banning single use vapes is like cutting the leaves off of the weeds in your garden, it is not the root of the issue and is silly. parents are the key and that is a social issue and one that the government should stay away from. Communities need to educate their members and reach out to those parents and help that way. kids can't buy these things as it is already illegal to sell to minors and the way kids get them are through their parents, or friends that have parents that buy it for them. The kids get it from third party sources and that again is a community issue and a parenting issue at large and i can't stress that enough.
What kind of vape you using? Most vape in the US are unregulated. Personally I have no problem with my own vape mod in Malaysia cause there is serious control in vape laws over here. You guys don't exactly had the best reputation when it comes to vapes.
@@xarisvantan thats not quite true. there is little no data yet on the long term effects of vaping. and safer doesnt mean safe
That sounds like complete bullshit, and it's obvious that it is the type of "propaganda" that vape companies use to lure people in.@@xarisvantan
@@xarisvantan Compared to smoking, anything is healthy. Doesn't mean vaping is good for you in the least. It CAN and WILL mess your health up. Whether tomorrow or in a few decades. Vape lungs is already a thing with illegal vape juice that had oil in it burning people's lungs from the inside.
A kid I work with ended up with a severe throat inflammation for some reason, don't know if it was strep or what.
Doctor told her to stop vaping until it healed.
She refused, she'd use her vape and literally cry because of the sheer awful pain it was causing her....and then do it again a few hours later.
There's something wrong with people.
This video was actually extremely fascinating. As a teenager, I see a lot of other kids vaping around me and I NEVER understood the hype and still don’t. I love the “strep stick” nickname. Great video btw 💗
It's a combination of hype and addiction. Smoking or vaping is seen as badass because of 80s and 90s movies and teenagers want to be cool (believe me, I was a teen once). Second is, vaping leaves no smell, is relatively cheap and a lot of websites deliver them to you without checking your age and in discreet packaging (if you ask them). It starts off with trying to be cool and ends up with a person being addicted. And vapes are popular because of the reason above. They're very hard to detect as they leave no smell so grown-ups can't catch you and they come in "fun" flavors.
I was diagnosed with covid by one doctor without being given a proper test and when I went to a second doctor they did do a test and it came back positive for strep and negative for covid so I think during the pandemic so many doctors are so quick to diagnose everything as covid. I think that's part of the reason why we are seeing such an uptick in cases of flu or strep now because not everything is being blamed on covid anymore.
But this absolutely makes 100% sense. Why would you willing share that with anyone?
I'd also like to point out, most people that vape chronically vape. Not a doctor so I'm not sure how strep appears, but vaping chronically dries out your throat out to the extreme. I'd assume this has some impact on how easily strep can infect/grow
just drink more fluids. and yes i'm guessing it is the propylene glycol that is most commonly used in the vape juices as the delivery chemical that allows nicotine to be inhaled the way that it is. If you just drink plenty of fluids it will likely counteract that issue. Been vaping for a long time and i've noticed getting dry mouth and air way from time to time if i'm not giving myself enough fluids and taking breaks from the constant bombardment of the stuff. I am otherwise quite healthy other than my lack of working out and not eating my weakness of carne asada fries. There is also my oral health but that was already screwed before i ever vaped so the nicotine probably didn't help with that.
The exact opposite would be true. Dry throat is a symptom of soar/strep throat, not a cause. Bacteria and virus would be less likely to infect/grow in a dry environment. Careful with your assumptions.
@@Daytruin you know, you're the most sensible vaper I've ever seen. Almost every one I've ever met thinks it's a miracle substance that does absolutely nothing negative to your body in any way, and the media and doctors are lying. You seem well-informed and self aware. Hopefully you can kick the habit someday.
Drinking fluids can only help a little. You inhale with your trachea, not your esophagus.
I don`t advocating for smoking and vaping, it`s people`s personal choice, but what people need to understand, that vapes must be an individual device like any medical equipment, syringes inhalers etc. That`s all. It`s a simple hygiene issue. Кстати, привет Михаил, хороший канал, хороший контент.
It's weird though...My main symptom that I had when I had COVID was a very sore throat and it felt like strep throat. However, I no longer can get strep throat since I got my tonsils removed when I was 20. Funny though, I got them removed since I was constantly getting strep throat, but I don't vape at all nor did I back then.
You can still get strep without tonsils. You have a reduced risk.
thx for addressing the strep issue throughout the U.S.!
(also, i'll remember the phrase you said @ 4:53 lol)
Screw
Strep
Stick
Sharing!
Lol, strep stick, fantastic name for them Dr Mike.
I can see it being viable, a wet damp tube with saliva and god knows what else in it and people just passing it around willy nilly. I don't smoke, never have and never will and if I ever vape I'm sure as heck not gonna be sharing it around.
Antibiotics for strep allowed me to go to my friends' wedding! So heck yes one day is worth it sometime!
This was a needed video for everyone! ❤🎉 thanks doctor!
I had strep my first year at college. Even though I was miserable for a weekend (because my school's health and wellness center didn't open until 9AM on Mondays and I got it late Friday night) it taught me about the magic of antibiotics.
I'm also not a huge fan of people who smoke and vape because of the damage they're voluntarily doing to themselves.
Great job Doctor Mike for making these great, informative videos. Love from the UAE 🇦🇪🇦🇪
I’m from Qatar
This is so funny to me because I grew up with the kids who wouldn't share beverages with each other and yet here we are with this
Never vaped and never will. Hope you don’t too
I wonder if strep was just considered an all-time low during covid because most primary care offices were closed and many people, who would have been seen and diagnosed with strep, stayed at home and were not formally (for data wise) diagnosed with strep. Not promoting vaping or sharing any germs, just thinking in general most the strep infections are with the pediatric population who will always pass around everything (share drinks. not wash hands...), they were for the most part not seen in office by covid (unless emergency- which strep is not), so less diagnosis.
Though vaping, besides for the harm it causes, can also be a source of spreading germs (not just strep).
Is there an increased infection risk if you don't share the vape? I wonder, since nicotine weakens the immune system, or maybe the throat gets irritated or injured by the heat?
The throat can definitely get injured by the heat. I don't vape nicotine, but my favorite singer used to. He went to the doctor, the doctor asked what the hell he was doing, because it looked like someone had just burned his throat. He quit vaping and smokes cigs here and there now. Guess that's better than having a burnt throat, I still wish he would quit cigs too!
There must be, since some vape cause your throat to become dry, which in turns can lead to inflammation and decreased immune response
I had strep once. All the way back when I was a kid in 2010.
I wish I could remember if I had any kind of contact like sharing a beverage with someone that might have caused it. I do remember going out to eat the night before I had symptoms. I also remember years later a friend of mine got it and wonder how she even managed to catch it. Strep is no joke and definitely should be treated. I remember the ER telling me it was a really bad case. The nurse barely had to swab me and still turned out to be a positive test. She said she could smell the strep breath 😖
One thing I think you should factor into your theory. Most vapes are vegetable glycerin based. Mouth pieces don’t dry, they stay wet for a long time. So now you have a suburb ready for move in for all the bacteria accumulated from a shared vape. Another point, the accumulation of dirt, pocket lint, etc that eventually makes it way in there as well. Keep your mouth tip covers folks.
They made vaping a felony in Houston because of the vast spike mainly in schools. It decreased true. But it's back on the rise. It's crazy when I see kids walking around coughing like they about to die, in my eyes I view them as dumb and dumber😂
they are simply vaping in secret. But yeah, they cough like that and don't even realize it's an issue.
A felony? Seriously? I highly doubt that. Show me where in the municipal code that is.
From what I can find, it's only in public areas and it's the same as smoking cigarettes in public. It's a fine, not a felony.
Can you speak about the harms of vaping on a realistic level? I vape and am really uneducated on the possible consequences due to misinformation, however you're a doctor I trust to do the most research to come up with some really helpful, possibly life saving information I could fall back on to motivate me to quit.
Nicotine is a neurostimulant which promotes faster brain function. Inhalation isn't the best route of administration, but vaping with propylene glycol and not vegetable glycerine should be faar better than smoking a ciggie. Patches are available and work quick but most consumers like the inhalation and hit. You can make your own patches or droppers to drop under tongue as alternative to vaping
No info on sharing vapes, but I consider it the same as sharing a bowl of cereal. Up to the owner of the body to decide the risks of herpes, strep, mono, flu, ect. We have amazing complex immune systems yes, buut we cannot fight off herpes.
Would you ever talk about the long-term effects of chemicals in our drinking water in America? Not a lot of people cover it. We all know how detrimental drugs can be by now but there are other things killing us.
I’m concerned about this also. I’ve been hearing about forever chemicals too. No wonder American children are experiencing endocrine & hormonal problems.
0:52 - And sometimes a patient tells you their throat hurts worse than strep, something is seriously wrong, and they feel antibiotics would be the smart choice, but the doctors say "nah, you tested negative for strep."
Then 3-4 days later, the doctor calls you up in a panic & says your lab tests came back positive for *STAPH INFECTION* in your throat, and you NEED to get on antibiotics ASAP... Imagine how mad you'd be if you tried pleading with your doctor & explaining you had strep many times as a kid, but this is significantly worse, only to be denied.
I lost 10 lbs in a week, couldn't swallow anything, had to let jello melt in my mouth & drip down my throat, as the staph infection grew worse for days before the doctor put me on antibiotics. It was one of the worst infections/illnesses I've ever had. Staph in the THROAT was miserable.
I like how it's only been 9 minutes and people are rushing to to watch a doctor which they normally don't
I just want to add in reference to the Vegas anecdote: the air in vegas is extremely dry, the tap water is pretty gross (at least in my experience) and there is smoking indoors in the casinos and many other bars and clubs. Last time I went without a humidifier I thought I had covid every morninf I woke up my throat hurt so bad. It was entirely just the dryness and second hand smoke.
But yeah, if you're gonna vape, don't share pens, it's a cesspool of bacteria.
Dr. Mike, with all due respect, DUH! The fact this needs to be pointed out makes me worry about our species. Putting something in your mouth that has been in someone else's mouth is like letting them spit in your mouth. Doesn't matter what it is- a vape, a pipe, a straw, whatever.
Thank you Dr Mike !
I had strep several years ago, no idea where it came from. It was the worst throat pain i've ever experienced, i'm no bich, but the pain was easily 9/10. I used the sprays (no effect), i used strong pain relief (a mild effect). Going to the doctor and asking for meds was almost as painful as having the virus. Every time you swallow your spit it was hot razor blades.
Sometimes strep presents a-typically, especially in kids, so if you are sick and not getting better just get the strep test done!
My son tested positive for strep with none of the usual symptoms.
I don't vape but i did get strep throat when my kids were little while my then husband was in Puerto Rico and my parents were in San Diego. It was hell but I finally was able to drive myself to the ER one morning after taking them to school and, sure enough, I had strep and a peritonsillar abscess. I barely remember that day but thankfully a friend of my mom's daughter was able to pick me up and help me with my little kids.
Not sure if someone has also asked:
My main question is if second-hand vaping causes any issues as second-hand smoking does. While I don't personally smoke or vape, a ton of students around me do. Even if someone isn't sharing a vape with someone else, that exhale out could also pollute the air with bacteria and viruses.
If I'm wrong about any of this, please correct me! :)
it definitely does cause issues like second-hand smoking, but that’s with the chemicals. Apart from sharing the vape which spreads germs, I don’t think it changes the amount of bacteria and viruses that people breathe out without a vape anyways? idk lol
I have gone to many concerts and festivals this summer and I see that all the time, and more. While I smoke my inhaler being surrounded in a sea of people vaping in my face, many times people are sharing. And being rubbed against people can making you sick too and yet I still go.
This legit happened in my vicinity at my job over the summer. One person had COVID but they shared their vape pen and by the next day half of the staff tested positive. I knew I was negative as I tested multiple times (as an asthmatic I have similar symptoms). Thankfully dodged a bullet on that one.
Lmfao
Sharing spoons and utensils can also spread strep in children. It is very important to treat strep throat in children, as the risk of heart and kidney damage is higher in children.
DR Mike in one of your videos you said that you will never wear black scrubs again cuz people don't really trust on the one who wears black scrubs and now you are wearing it although it is looking good on you and we already do trust you but when I saw you in those scrubs I just remembered that short and that's why I out of curiosity just commented about those scrubs 😶🌫😶🌫😶🌫😶🌫😶🌫