How to Treat a Woman - Manners #1
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- May 19th, 2023
Father Josiah Trenham
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Thank you for this…please also do one for women on how to treat men!
I second this. Blessings!
Just cook him a ribeye, all else will be fine lol
I fourth this!
Let’s say it as Father did. ‘… how to treat OUR man/men’, MY man/men’ 🎉
@@jamisondorsett5268I’m a cook at a nice high end restaurant. If my woman were to cook me a ribeye, I’d probably get so anxious about it that I would take over. 😂
"The man imitating Christ is seeking the holiness of the woman." ❤
16:15
The world needs a lot of what you said. Christ is Risen !
🇺🇸☦️🇺🇸
Truly, He is Risen!
This has made me realize a lot... man society has crumbled... thank you father i will try my best to uphold all of this
Nice. Thank you for this, as a 22 year old man. God bless you
One of the most important videos you’ve ever made. Young men are usually not taught this, myself included. I had to read it in a book called “How to be a Gentleman” (Pretty good book, although it discourages evangelizing as ‘impolite’ so keep that in mind). The Church needs to be constantly teaching manners so that we don’t get our ideas on masculinity from men like Andrew Tate or their male feminist cousins.
Thank you Father. I'm very young and I wish to know how to live a godly life and join the Orthodox Church.
Attend a church near you brother ❤️ you will not regret it
Im not orthodox, but I sure love what you teach.
As a woman, if a woman gets insulted by you doing these things for her, you would have simply missed a bullet. Don't waste your time with these women, they will never appreciate you and look down on you for it. But there are definitely women who will appreciate these things even today. Most of them will be found through your parish or neighboring parishes. Don't toss your pearls before swine, no matter how hot they are on the exterior.
Please permit me a moment to express pride in my 3 year old son. My wife told me they were out walking the other day and he told his mother that she was supposed to walk on his right side away from the road. I had no idea how closely he had been paying attention to us!
that's adorable you're raising such a little gentleman
@@basedgod6016 thank you very much. We are certainly trying to do our best :)
Quran says Allah is “Al-Ahad”(one/indivisible).Deductively, It is impossible for perfection to have parts. The old/new testament textually scream oneness of Allah. So, then why believe in trinity and associate two imaginary parts to Allah(one/indivisible/self-sufficient/all-loving)?How could your love be undivided and only for Allah(the most Exalted) when there are two other equally unique/perfect entities?
@@MorallyResponsible there are no parts in God
Children don't always listen to what adults say, but they always pay attention to what they do.
Father, thank you for making this video. I think you have helped me realize a strong point of why I hate myself as a woman so much, I have never been with a man who made me feel I deserved to be treated with that level of respect. I feel like I am dirt. I have made incredible changes to my life, though my parents did a good job instilling modesty, respect, and manners to another man. I think there is a generational issue. I have finally began to accept my lack of finding a good husband isn’t only because of my shortcomings, or that I’m undeserving. Thank you Father for helping me heal just from one video. God bless you.
God bless you. You are not dirt; you are created in the image of God. ❤🙏✝ 🕊 ❤
Yes Father, please do include a reflection on how a woman should treat a man. I need one!
You really encouraged me to become a better christian gentlemen. Thank you for your valuable information!
I got a employee information update form last year with all these ridiculous categories on it. I marked other and wrote in "Purple Dinosaur". I received an email from the HR department asking me to let them know how they can accommodate me. I didn't know if I should laugh or cry.
I would consider looking for another employer, or even relocating to another state.
Do you live in CA?
@@orthodox1717 Ohio
Tell them you need all the Dino shapes from the Flintstones vitamins brought to you daily, by the hundreds 😂
Also going to need those Dino chicken nuggets. Can’t live without those as a dinosaur.
Wow. Our son shared this video with us. I can hear our own parental voices, now long absent on this earth, in all you have said. We were taught to be respectful and thankful, and it is dismaying at how little respect is being taught and passed down to the generations. Fathers and mothers have to rise up. Scripture gives an abundance of wisdom and instruction on how to treat and be treated in society. This promotes God's order in our society. We must get back to teaching the young with Godly principles. Thank you for this video. We will be sharing it. Churches and small groups need to hear this message. Rise up, fathers and mothers! Rise up, grandparents!
Ooooooo.... Can you do a series like this for orthodox young men that are dating. My sons will be listening to this.
Truly He is Risen!☦️
Thank you Father 🙏☦️
Its the way the devil rages against the woman, the Blessed Virgin Mary, her motherhood, and the relationship between the Bride, the Church with Our Lord Jesus Christ! Chaos and confusion
Thank you Father for your wise teaching.
Thank you for teaching on this 💜
It is Basic. I can hardly believe that young folks don’t know this.
Of course, I was a child of of mid 1960s. That world is mostly gone by now, Lord have mercy on us all.
I'm in the same age group. We're all damaged by the "flower power" movement of the 1960s and the feminism and all the even worse movements since then. We Christians should stand up to the degradation, each person carve out a humble niche of Christianity around himself. Changing the world can only start with yourself, the only place you have influence over. Blessings.
That world is gone because the 1960s generation decided to wage revolution on their parents generation and destroy it all.
Being an Orthodox teen in the '60's, I watched it all fall apart, at the hands of women! Men and women knew their places in society and in the home and women (made of a finer clay) were put on pedestals, but then the feminist movement came along promoting equality to men. "Equal pay for equal work!" Fine, but it went way past that, then it became superiority. Women began using men until, as in today's world, men used them back and marriage became obsolete. It is refreshing to see on TH-cam that there are groups of women who are tired of the fight and see exactly what Fr. is preaching about and yearn to be women again. I think it would be a good idea if Fr. did do a video about how women should treat men. We live in such a crazy world, but I have hope for it. Thank you for putting your foot forward on this, Fr.
@@vasilii6417 I agree on all counts. Blessings!
@@vasilii6417Why would women be put on pedestals? That sounds like simping to me.
Truly He is risen! Thank you for reposting this. I was listening this morning when it stopped and there was a message that said the video was removed. I thought “uh oh”. The algorithms got it. Glad it’s back. ☦️
God be with you, Father. Thank you for this. It is important for proper etiquette to be spoken upon in this day and spirit of the age.
Thank you, father! Please do more videos on this topic, we really need it.
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Thank you, Father! This is an informative and wonderful video.
It comes much easier to have manners when all the women you interact with are the sweet elderly ladies from church, but as far as for young women, it's sad, but I (and many young men my age can probably agree) almost cannot even imagine interacting with young women.
They are not in church, and in public they are dressed so indecently we cannot even interact with them, the situation is so bad. How can our generation of young men pull our women back in to the fold? Would be cool to have a reflection on that
Emily Post's guide to etiquette mentions several of these. People should check out that book too.
Thank you Father for this. A great deal to ponder on, and a great deal to do.
Truly edifying! Thank you Father Trenham 🙏
Thank you, Father.
Thank you father, this is much needed guidance especially in these times. God bless ☦️
thank you for this.
PNP is such a blessing. Love these videos
Thank you! Father ...from Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahido Church
Thank you. Lovely
My father also taught us to “be sure the bathroom is cleaner than it was when we got there” At a house as a guest 😂
Thank you father! This is so important and helpful for me and I think many others
I will share it with my son and brothers.
Thank you
Father, make Manners #2 please
Now the question remains: where does one meet a single, wholesome Orthodox woman in the first place?
Simple answer: Your local church. Complex answer: Dating sites or through trustworthy friends making it clear that you're Orthodox and you expect the same.
Same place one meets a rare wholesome Orthodox man.
So refreshing
Make a part two, there's so much more!
Christ is risen! Thank you Fr. I know that many well meaning men will hear your words and eagerly put them to action. Glory to God! Will you please do one for women? It’s sad we have to ask, but it seems basic etiquette is just so lost on us younger ones.
One of my gestures which was depicted by my wife and corrected soon afterwards during several months by myself, it was when we walked together (she was my gf 6-7 years ago) was the lack of grace when looking to another attractive girls/ladies, I even turned my head off sometimes disrespectfully. Nowadays, even we gentlemen always do it more subtle, we should always love and respect our gf/ladies/wives.
Subtle or not, you shouldn't. One's eyes are only for one's betrothed or spouse, no others.
Thank you for your reflection Father. Truly He is risen! Question: What are we men to do when our women and sisters in Christ do not have respect for themselves in public (things like immodest dress or conduct, etc), how can we move them to a sense of self-respect and chastity and protect ourselves from fleshly temptations?
As many other comments have said, a reflection upon the women's perspective in this area may be greatly beneficial to all.
There are a lot of videos from various Orthodox men on the subject. Men's conduct is rarely addressed.
Has the world of Orthodoxy come to this, if so, I cringe. 13 days ago, and I'm the first one to like?
Lol the likes on this video are hidden. You aren't the first one to like, it just doesn't show how many likes there are on this video
When you say any threat that includes unsavory character possibly on drugs or alcohol. Disregard the road in that case if need be and adjust where you are smoothly
Blessings and respect and many thanks for the video. You are a breath of fresh air. In which US state are you located?, from the hospital questionnaire it sounds like it could be California, am I wrong?
08:05 : Making a contribution. Amen !! It is so good to hear someone say this.
And a question related to the topic: How about manners that the woman should respect towards the man?
His church is in California.
@@johnsambo9379 Thanks for your comment, That doesn't sound surprising, hearing that hospital questionnaire. I wish him all fortitude staying sane there. Blessings.
Serving, Protection, Honour? I stare at these words and they are new to me. Why do I feel men in this religion are put up with what God gave for them and have to forgive her on their end and bear with her reluctantly. I am not to desire finding and hoping for someone who does not think woman is that bad after all. I’m never after your control and I won’t learn anything new when you are out of the house. Maybe it was the devil’s lies and no one to prove me otherwise maybe the lies they seek in other denominations.
Thank you so much for this... I do suffer because today man think they should not help or give love to the woman if she is not virgin any more. Please Father could you make a video about how we treat a woman witch is no longer virgin?
Reject Jezebels, embrace Ruths!
I don't see any Ruth's.
@@majorrager3353there ain’t none. For many of the young men they’re left with women who have been with at least 10 guys by the time they are 24.
Don’t be a Jezebel yourself and you shall attract what you are
YOUR woman, YOUR possession
0:27 Etiquette is essential for a proper Godly relationship among man and woman, husband and wife.
1:37 One of Fr Josiah’s parish had born a baby.
The California hospital she had born her baby in has a gender identity form-fill out.
4:24 Does God reveal proper etiquette and manners? Yes.
5:25 For instance, have responsibility as a young person. Be grateful, show gratitude through good etiquette.
7:10
+ Contribute positively to the places and people you come into contact with
+ clean up messes 🧼 🧽
9:42 Conduct at the dinner table
+ Pray before eating the food
+ Don’t complain about the food
10:35
Pray thanks
Eat like a gentleman
Listen to learn
12:00
Serve and Protect mentality.
+ Help the woman in and out of your car.
+ Help the people into a place.
+ Care for the woman before yourself
13:50 Keep the wife on the right hand side, a place of respect and goodness.
14:26
+ Be between your woman and the road.
15:10
+ Keep her from vulgarity.
16:05
+ Seek Holyness
16:35
+ Protect her from yourself. Make her love increase.
17:40 _“Don’t turn your sisters into playthings.”_
Good evening all. Anyone know of an online forum or is interested in creating one for Orthodox fathers who have been forcefully separated from their home and children, to fraternise and to share helpful advice etc?
The eating meals happily thing after giving thanks really calls me out. i have a physical tasting disorder - my tastebuds are larger and more numerous (phenomenon is known as "super taster" , most common in african american women - im a white guy). Some foods will have me reflexively throwing up as they are so incredibly offputting. Should I be privately force feeding myself these foods so I can weep over the dish privately- so that in the future I can hopefully eat it with a smile?
I'm ashamed to have insulted the Lord by not happily eating whatever food he places in front of me.
Can we allow that some of these courtesies and chivalrous actions must be excepted in the case of children. My wife will not wait outside in the rain for me to open her door while I take the time to buckle the children
I'm 32. This way of acting around women sounds so radically different to what I'm used to, that I genuinely have trouble imagining how to do anything remotely like it, and I'd expect people around me, including the women themselves, to treat me as weird and even creepy for doing so. If I were to jump out of my chair for every woman entering a 10 meter radius, wouldn't that seem like I'm desperately trying to seduce them? My normal behavior towards everyone, men and women, is shy and introverted. I'm quite sure if I suddenly behaved in this way it would freak everyone out. I think this particular lesson might be too difficult for me at this moment...
where do you live
Spirit of the law bruh. Just treat them with a spirit of dignity
@@Binary10100Thank you, your comment is simple but very helpful
@@guineapig55555 I live in the Netherlands. I was raised as an unbeliever. I converted to Protestantism about 3 years ago and am currently converting to Orthodoxy, so a topic like this is quite new to me.
@@SimpleAmadeus ah yes, people are very equal there
Now how about how to treat a man? Many men are aware of how to treat a woman. It seems that women do not know how to treat a man. Please if you have a video about this I’d like to know.
"Pee on the sink"...🤣🤣I used to have to clean a Men's room (BTW, the idea that Ladies rooms are cleaner is a myth) and I KNOW what you all found on the walls over the years! YIKES!
In the paperwork, having the gender option of "trans, male to female" doesn't make sense because they don't put a uterus in when they do reassignment surgery. Like, it's physically impossible to give birth in that situation.
It isn't like I'm biting my fingernails.
Father, the term "vulgarity" is a slight on Slavs (Bulgar). I try not to use it.
and some people have to ask us why we escaped from Kommufornia.......
Father could you please reconcile something for me. We stand up when a priest comes in the room for recognition of his leadership and headship. Why do women not stand up for their husband when he enters the room but just the opposite?
Because they don’t follow his lead and disrespect him.
@@CunningOfReason please clarify who is "they" and "his" and "him"?
@@pg618 women , husband, husband
He's not ordained and marriage is a partnership.
@LadyMaria but neither is the woman ordained and is part of the same partnership
Thank for you this video, Fr. Trenham.
How do we learn to separate between respect, and idolatry?
Much of what is being addressed in this video could very easily turn into women worship. What I mean by that is that many young men today desire women in an unhealthy way, probably fostered by modern movies and Internet culture, which lead to a skewed perception of the sexes, and 'simping' -- an act of seeking validation from women (rather than seeking a companion).
Just curious, what is pan sexual? I don’t recall hearing that before.
Keep your purity. Don't bother finding out.
What I find ridicuous about the concept of "discovery" when it comes to al these social and societal changes is it totally negats and undermines the cncepts of continity and the parent's responsibility of preparing their children to take their role in society. What I mean by rhat is if gender roles are always changing and children do not know what his or her gender is, then the parent cannot properly prepare their children for their roles as adults. The biological differences between men and women dictates behaviors and roles.
Try
also forget about movies. and popular culture. treat a woman as you would treat your sister or the daughter of christ and you will not regret it.
This is such a rambling, confusing video. I'm 10 minutes in, and I have yet to hear scarcely a single worde related to the topic of "How to Treat a Woman."
How to treat men?
Its savoir- vivre , I miss times when man behave like this
God hands people over to depravity
Now please show us the women worthy of this treatment.
Judging other people's worthiness is not a Christian attitude. We behave as we should because it's the right thing to do, not because anyone is "worthy".
It goes both ways y'know.
"worthy"???? this isn't about your own self benefit! christianity isn't about "maximising your gains" or "profiting off the best scenario", it's about following the truth. so stop thinking about yourself and swallow your pride. think about it, was it "worth it" for jesus to suffer on the cross??? are we as humans "worthy" of such sacrifice? no, but he suffered anyway because he loves us. and we should strive to be like him.
Women don't like accountability. The responses show that fact.
Quran says Allah is “Al-Ahad”(one/indivisible).Deductively, It is impossible for perfection to have parts. The old/new testament textually scream oneness of Allah. So, then why believe in trinity and associate two imaginary parts to Allah(one/indivisible/self-sufficient/all-loving)?How could your love be undivided and only for Allah(the most Exalted) when there are two other equally unique/perfect entities?
My brother in Christ, the Holy Trinity is mentioned many times throughout the scriptures. Here are some of the many texts in the New testament that speak of the Holy Trinity. Matthew 28:19, 2 Corinthians 13:14, 1 Corinthians 12:4-5, Ephesians 4:4-6, 1 Peter 1:2, and Revelation 1:4-6
Our love is also not "divided" for the three persons of God. 1 God, 3 persons. We are not polytheistic
@@MrWayne-my1ul These verses refers to three entities but never says they are one and says nothing about their personality.
it does not say they are three in one or one in three,
it does not say these three are the Godhead,
it does not say these three are co-equal or co-eternal beings,
it does not say that these three are all God.
@@MrWayne-my1ul Trinity is the central docterine of christianity and yet this doctrine is supported by vague verses.
Woe unto you claiming knowledge when you don't understand anything you'll realize it once you actually open the Bible without using your Islamic bias
Why is an Orthodox Bishop blessing a gay couples baby?
Evanggelos Bousis and Peter Dundas, both of Greek descent, became the first gay couple to hold a Greek Orthodox Baptism for their children in Greece on Saturday.
The couple’s children, Alexios and Eleni, were baptized by his Eminence Archbishop Elpidophoros of America at the Panagia Faneromeni Church in the southern Athenian suburb of Vouliagmeni.
Good question. Father Trenham, please comment?
Because he's not really Orthodox and should be shunned. Brotherly admonishment has already failed.
Epidophonos and couple others should be defrocked, but who is going to defrock - their Patriarch Bartholomew? Hope council will happen soon
Because GOARCH is a liberalized mess.
@@FirstnameLastname-py3bc bartholomew is a servant of the flock. He's not the pope. He isn't untouchable. We need to rise up, call him unworthy, and kick him out!!
Is it possible that we could get an equivalent "How to treat a man" video for girls?
I guess it might contain statements a bit less popular these days but as an ex-Catholic wife of an Orthodox man born in a religious family with priestly traditions (I don't know if that's the proper way to say it in English) who does the things mentioned in this video so naturally, I'm out here waiting eagerly to learn how to properly give back to him since it doesn't come so naturally to me.
Very good comment. I second this. Blessings.
I also want this, for myself and also to teach my daughters.
Jasmine Theodora has some good information regarding this.
@Paul R , link please?
Orthodox TH-camrs frequently cover that. It is rare to cover how men should act.
I'm 34 years old, and my father never taught me any of this. Of course, I've learned some of these behaviors through others, but still, when men like myself have sons, we have to break the cycle and teach our sons to lead and be gentlemen.
32, same.
19, same
Your father might not have taught you, but our Father is teaching you so you didn't lose a thing.
I’m 34, feels like god humbles me every day. I’m trying to be the man that’s worthy of a godly woman ☦️
33 year old here and I feel the same way
A refresher on church etiquette would be lovely, especially when and how to greet clergy and move about. I lament how broken my family was and is with very few examples of decorum, still single in my mid thirties likely because I never learned how to be a man. One step closer each day, though.
я из России, и без перевода поняла многое)). так интересно наблюдать за просвещенческой работой наших иностранных братьев, молодцы! а ведь все девушки этого в душе так хотят...
We sure do!
A good wife has a way of civilizing a man. I was a barbarian when I met my wife, but she has taught me to be more considerate and thoughtful about my behaviors, words and manners.
she should have not to do it though. you are very lucky she stayed with you
@@mil.gan4mil.gan431 I think this is true for most men. A good marriage changes you for the better. The virtues that grow in you can only blossom in the holy mystery of marriage, or in the case of monasticism, marriage to the Church.
@@mil.gan4mil.gan431”lucky”. don’t even think or consider that divorce is an option.
Its hard for guys to be civilized when their fathers weren't allowed to raise them properly.@@mil.gan4mil.gan431
It’s not her job nor should any man rely on man but his own willingness to follow Christ
I think im gonna love this session, father. Make more of this please.
Maybe you can make a video about 'How to be a good friend to other people'? 🙏
Thank you for speaking on this. As a young man who is striving to learn more about our faith and become a better person, I look forward to learning from your future videos on this subject.
Very timely and invaluable …..I have a long, long way to go as far as applying this to my marriage….Lord have mercy….
I hope you've seen success friend
Going through plenty of the videos on here, thank you Father. The part on the bathrooms made me blush because I not once ever thought that I should do such things in/for a bathroom of all places. Right now I am going to a protestant church but watching you, it is pretty clear I desire greatly to enter the Orthodox Church. I am 22 right now, but I have never had a "girlfriend" and at times I get extremely despondent that I will never find a good woman, and neither do I feel the call for monasticism. I pray one day, but it is all God's will.
She will spot you out of a million men and take keen note of your noble manner💖
When I saw the title of of this video I recalled in the Gospel of John how Jesus treated two fallen women. One was a woman who had 5 husbands and was currently living with another man who wasn't her husband. The other was the woman caught in the act of adultery. He treated both women with respect condemning neither only telling them (especially the adulterous explicitly and the first implicitly by pointing out her status) to sin no more. This should give us a model as to how men should treat all women, not just the ones living holy lives. IMHO 🙏☦
Approach with extreme caution,
they are a far cry from women of centuries ago.
There are still some quasi-unicorns out there. I' am onto one at the moment.
@@Michael_the_Drunkard Id have as much trust in that statement as someone who claims to be Sinless.
Though i bare no ill will towards you or any other women for that fact. Stay strong and above the noise, may our Lord forever remain with you and your spirit.
@@observer.b_e_l_l_i_sRemember, the good men are equally as rare.
Hi Father Josiah, thank you for this video. When I played it to my husband he was horrified that he had to do any of these things that you mention. I think I will be waiting forever.
"Who does number 2 work for?!"
I wish someone taught me this 20 years ago....
We’re living in strange times. We appreciate you!! ❤
I remember when wild or untamed young men would go off to the military and then come back home. Often what was noticeable was how polite they had become, with Yes, ma'am, and No, sir. BUT the foundation of it was that they had been initiated into a form of manhood that required them to prove their worth and make that their grounds for SELF-respect. They had become admirable, as men. This is what gave their good manners value. Nowadays with so many women ruined by the narcissism of "girlpower" and feminism, that unless a man's "chivalry" comes from a position of strength (and a refusal to be disrespected) AND the woman is capable of reciprocating, it is often a waste of time, if not an invitation to humiliation.
To be fair, a lot of men have wandering eyes, addicted to porn, not faithful, are controlling.. It's not a one sided thing.
Very helpful.
Algorithm boost.
Manners maketh man.
Fantastic video.
Thank you Father.