I've been in love with Corvette since 1969. The C7 is the Corvette that set my soul on fire. While I don't own mine yet, I did drive a '14 with a stick in '21. That was the highlight of my life. A right, proper Corvette is a front engine, rear wheel drive sports car., I believe a manual transmission is necessary to complete the experience.
Curious. If it's common knowledge that the word "mine" implies ownership why did you choose to say "while I don't own *mine* yet" instead of "while I don't own *one* yet"? Did you do it to pretend it was more real & if so how do you think that comes across to other men? It's always the guys that say things like "when I get mine" then when you ask them how far along they are on working towards their goal you find they haven't even started.
@@gsxr1189 I think most men would be much more annoyed by your comment than Tenorman's. You have nothing better to do than pick apart random comments on a YT video? I'm guessing you haven't gotten that far towards your own goals, because if you had, you probably wouldn't be wasting time picking others apart over absolute BS on the internet. Or maybe you're just a demoralization bot? Or a communist?
@@gsxr1189 I subscribe to the law of attraction therefore, since my Vette is in my imagination, it's as good as in my garage. Since I've become a student of the law of attraction, I've looked back over my life and discovered I spoke into reality everything I have right now. Therefore, referring to my Corvette as mine, that draws it faster.
@Tenorman51 Can't tell if serious but you do you. I subscribe to the law of effort. I believe the harder I work the more I "attract" the things I want for my life & my Vette is in my PFP.
As a Vette owner with a built LS3 you’re definitely wrong and comparing a base C8 to the C7 Z06 is comical. This is nothing but low level satire at its best
@@B126USMCI have a z51 and I’m not knocking the wide body on the c7, I just think the c6 wide body on the zr1 GS and z06 is ridiculous. Especially in black. I bought the z51 because I didn’t like the hood on the z06s and GS. The c7s are already a ridiculous wide car without wider fenders but I know it’s to run 335s. It wasn’t my cup of tea. Still sexy cars though I agree. I have basically all the z06 stuff on a silver z51 with carbon package and Zr1 wheels
I own and love my c7, however I have a slightly different list. The trans in the c8 was phenomenal when I got to drive one for a few laps and the power and grip was noticeably way better comparing my stock z51 c7 to the stock z51 c8. What I missed most was not being able to see any hood at all, which is a huge favorite part of my driving experience. But ya totally agree on only having spent just over 50k including mostly visual performance mods (grill swap, front and rear splitters, side skirt, zr1 style high wing) and an AWE touring exhaust, I honestly wouldn't trade, just save up for that magnuson supercharger and call it a wrap! Nice car dude!
I have a 2019 C7 GS and just test drove a C8 yesterday. It was a non z51 2lt. Dealer had just put brand new tires on it and got an alignment on it. Stock for stock of course it's faster but the exhaust is not as loud and it felt heavy to me. The seats were very comfortable and everything was easy to get to and use. Sound system was great but honestly the bose in the 2lt GS sounds great as well. The front lift is a nice feature as well as blind spot monitoring! In my opinion the GS rides just as smooth probably because or the wider tires and body. C7 just feels more raw and feels like an actual Vette while the C8 seems more refined but to me kind of boring until you floor it. I wouldn't give up my C7 for it at all!
As a former Vette owner (427 c6) there is nothing better than shifting the gears yourself. I'm old school and don't like the not being able to do that. I have warmed up to the C8's but if I get another Vette I'm going c7 z06. That car has it all.
Depends on if you'd like your car to sound like an iconic American beast or sound like a European latte sipping soy boy. My pipes play the song of my people flat plane cranks do not.... 🇺🇲
I had a C6 and now am the happy owner of a 2019 2LT Grand Sport Long Beach Red Metallic, Kalahari interior and Chrome rims. I also have an automatic. I had a manual in my C6. I love my C7 because of the storage room for road trips. Unless you have the convertible C8 you have no room for luggage. I did a road trip on the pacific coast Hwy and with soft luggage and careful loading I was able to anchor my targa roof for open air driving. If you bought alot of stuff you could do so but would lose the open air experience. I ran into a couple with a C8. They said the seating was more cramped than the C7 they previously owned. It is subjective but I think my C7 is better looking than the C8. I was parked at an ocean viewpoint. A woman came up to me and asked if she could take a picture of my car. Almost any time I am out driving my GS someone says nice car even kids.
Love my C7, even though I had to bypass the AFM (worst thing ever). Triple flush your transmission fluid if you have fluttering in the C7 A8 transmission. Muffler delete and pull the fuse for the exhaust valves. Now my C7 is way better.
Love the corvetts pre2020. Me and my car buddies feel the same. The new c8 is just not the same. We like the dying stigma that it's a car for old retired dudes because today we're seeing them modified and owned by younger dudes/ dudetts as well
As a current owner of a C8 and a previous owner of a C7 I totally disagree the c8 gaines way more attention and all-around feels like a more stable fast car on the track the C7 being Rwd with front-engine does not handle as well also fuel economy my c8 gets three and a half miles per gallon more than my C7 in my opinion that is why the C7 is cheaper than C8 the C7 when it came out was the same reaction as a C8 when it came out just a revolutionary body change however the C7 is outdated and although the prices of the c8r through the roof about 7 months ago you were able to get a sub 100,000 in Washington state at least I picked up mine for 97,000 however I understand that you are posting photos of it being a Z06 specifically C7 vs. C8 which is how you should have titled it in all honesty if you would have title that that way it would have made more sense but if you compare the C7 to the C8 vs. C7 is an outdated version and all-around not a great car compared to the c8 if you put it on the track dragstrip it doesn't really matter it will outshine the C7 any day of the week driving C7 and a c8 and I guarantee you it'll be way more eyes on the C8
Amen brother. I went up from a 2015 Corvette C7 Z51 to a 2022 C8 Z51. The difference is like night and day. I get WAY more attention in the C8 than I ever have in the C7. Performance wise the C8 being mid-engine and DCT completely obliterates the C7 Stingray. Handling is also extremely tight in the C8 compared to the C7. C8 is just an all-around better vehicle from almost every aspect you look at. The only thing I miss on my C7 is the 7 speed Rev Match Manual gearbox.
I agree that C7's in the Stingray trim are a bit bland but I think he's comparing C7 Z06's to C8 Stingray's due to the price. I wouldn't say that C7 Z06's don't get attention especially one's that are well spec'd. My car's in my PFP touch red z06 w/Z07 pack & I can hardly put gas in it without ppl walking up & wanting to talk about the car. Driving down the freeway everyone especially ppl with slower cars want to try to get me to race just to see the car in action. Women start smiling at you when you get out of it. Ppl ask me to roll down the windows at stop lights to talk about the car. It gets compliments everywhere it goes probably more so than a C8 Stingray. I didn't expect the car to get this much attention & honestly I'm not sure I like it was fun at 1st but it's a bit too much for me. The attention a car gets isn't a selling point for me but on the street I doubt a C8 would be willing to race unless it was a z06 & even then it's a draw. Personally I wouldn't be interested in a Vette in the Stingray trim because you're down so much horsepower you aren't getting the experience a car like a Vette is supposed to be giving you. I'd always be left wishing it had more juice.
Part of the reason engine went in the back is chevy was at there limits with a front engine car for gt2 and gt3 racing. With the engine in the back and different geometry the car is way more competitive now. I understand though for the common owner on the street front engine might be more fun for them.
I own a C7 Z06 with just 12k miles and my list is : 1. It's better looking. A long-hood look that looks like a Vette, not a car trying to be something else. 2. Mine has a 7-speed manual. 'Nuff said. 3. Much higher top speed of 205 MPH 4. The price is half as much as a new Z06 5. Superior engine note. Much deeper than the new Z06, and fuller than the standard C8 Stingray
I love the c8 but the thing I hate about it is that it's a supercar, I love all the older corvettes that were muscle car style with the classic muscle car sound
I love the C6 and C7 Grand Sport and Z06 models. I agree that ZR1 is king. The C8 is a revolutionary step for Corvette. That Arkus-Duntov had wanted to go mid-engine way-back-when makes this an acceptable revolution in my opinion. I appreciate Chevy's interest in making Corvette a higher performing car with the E-Ray platform and the higher-pitched Z06 engine. I suspect the C8 hyper-Vette will be named Zora and not ZR1, and I also think that is fine, maybe even fitting. And when I fire up my C7 GS, I love the rumble of the Corvette heritage. I'm keeping mine.
I’m getting a C8 couldn’t be happier. I love C7s too though considered getting one. But inflation hit the C7Z06 way to hard. Im getting a C8 stingray non Z51. For MSRP
Man you are wrong on the prices- c7s are going up in prices, and certain models (M7 for eg) will continue to do so as they are now become rarer than ever.
Great points for sure, To each his own! Owned both and to me it’s not close C8 & now Z-06, just breaking in, hands down are better. Nostalgia or latest tech hopefully eventually we’ll be able to tune them.
I don’t like the new Italian signature design look, not for me and I’m know I’m not the only one to dislike this proportions I rather the old Dodge Viper look alike that the corvette had with front engine and that huge displacement
I'm just going to say this..I hallo had a C7 1LT 2016.manuel...I love it..but I bought a 2LT 2p23 C8..and I REALLY love my C8..it's all about what you like...
After six Vettes, from C5's to my current C7 Z51 7MT 1 LT Conv I will remain a C7 owner, why? Number one, I would lose my manual tranny, and number two.....price. But the C8 is an amazing vehicle, the first time you can claim supercar looks/numbers with GM numbers........
Great vid. What a difference a year makes.C8 prices are dropping, while C7 prices are creeping up. The new ZR1 has been announced and likely shipping soon. As a fellow C7 Z06 owner, I can't wait to get hands on an Eray. Tire spin is no longer fun for me.
I've owned my C7 Z51 (Manual), since 2017 and wouldn't trade her for any other model corvette. I've added a lot of mods over the years and it's addictive! Lol, I'm sending her to VR this spring to have even more goodies put on. She should be hitting about 750-800hp to the wheels when they're done. It's gonna be a fun summer!!!
C7 2014 stingray L3 owner and I love it picked mine up for 32k blacked out red interior great car, I cant wait to drive a C8 but Im extremely happy with my C7
I had a C7 Z51 corvette, and now I own a C8 Z51. The C8 is WAY better on overall performance. The C8 sticks extremely better than the C7. I'm talking about side by side stock performance. Yes, the C8 price is more, but the actual performance is way better. I put wider tires on my C7 and lost performance. (My C7 kept spinning out even with traction control on) The mid-engine C8 is a game changer that won't go backwards, and the C8 gas mileage is superb when cruising around. C8 all the way 👍🏽👍🏽💯
I own a 2018 z06 3lz with carbon ceramics making 741 wheel, I test drove a c8 and it just falls on its face after 2nd gear, very unimpressed, I haven’t gotten a chance to drive the c8 z06 yet, I did like the interior but the rawness of the c7 is real muscle car to me, the biggest reason I won’t buy a c8 is there’s no tuning , you can’t do anything to it 🤦♂️ , I did see that pro charger came out with a kit that uses the factory ecm, but it’s 20-22k just for the kit 30k installed 🤣😂
Hey Scott, can you please reach out to me regarding your Z06. I’m targeting that horsepower that your car has and want to hear about your build. I have a 17 Z06 with some mild bolt ons.
I agree with u men!! I have a dodge charger rt hemi loved it but soon ima trade it for c7 like urs but in white for 65k i feel great deal only 10 do miles
I'd rather pay the premium for the C8 Z06 than buy a Ferrari, Lamborghini, or Porsche. But I do prefer the C7 Z06 over the C8. Can't beat the performance of the C7Z....even if you pay top dollar for it.
I’d consider myself a pretty hardcore car enthusiast but even I can’t justify spending 200k on a car. Maybe if I had a really successful business and other dreams of mine are fulfilled but 200k on a car is crazy that’s just my opinion. Rn the most I’m willing to spend on a car is 110k and that’s through financing I don’t have 100k to outright purchase. And even that number is high for me right now Ngl I’m not made of money 😂😂
The main reason GM went with the rear engine C8 was because the C7 ZR1 pushed the C7 platform to the limit, and to get faster 0-60 times it was necessary to go with a mid-engine design. And yes, given the same model, the C8 is faster than the C7. But saying all of that, after taking a very close look at the C8 I decided I'm not buying one, regardless of price. I plan to keep my C7. It's not exclusively about the speed for me. To me the C7 just looks better and meaner, and the C7's interior is cleaner and doesn't look as cramped as the C8 (especially on the passenger side). Also I really like the C7's rear storage area, great for trips. Normally when a new generation Corvette comes along it takes me some time to get used to it, although it wasn't that way with the C7. I liked the C7 design immediately. As for the C8, initially I thought its look would grow on me, but after 4 years, it hasn't, which honestly makes me a bit sad. I'm hoping GM does better with the design of the C9 and also brings back the manual transmission option. Yes, manuals don't shift as fast, but manuals provide the real sports car experience. (Porsche gets it.) I do wish my C7 had some of the features of the C8, like Adaptive Cruise Control, its Front Lift system, Blind Spot Monitoring and a Rear Mirror Camera but for me those options aren't not worth switching to a C8. Just my .02.
I've owned 15 Vettes since 1989. My current ride is a '19 ZR1 ragtop, Sebring Orange Tintcoat. It's an animal on steroids and definitely a 'keeper.' My next Vette will likely be the C8 Zora but I will wait for owner reviews and a fair deal. Not going for any of the crazy 'market adjustment' pricing.
While I agree I’m not paying well over 100k for a GM product….. the c8 to me is superior to the c7. If I had a c7 would I get rid of it for a c8… probably not. But if I’m buying one today im definitely picking the c8 no question
I wanted a base model manual (7MT) coupe for the longest time. The only other 7MT’s available, were either through Aston Martin or Porsche; which idk if they’ve killed off or not yet (probably did)….
Nate what exhaust do you have on your C7??? I'm going to get my exhaust change from stock and your sound just the way I want mine too so what do you have???
All good points hence I just went with base Stingray C8. I would not pay the price difference for Z06 even at MsRp it is 40-50k more at top trim. Zr1 and Zora all to push the delta even more possibly 100k plus. When it comes to C7 I just would not buy it for the interior finish. The C8 is still not 911 finish on the inside but it sure is 100 times better and it does now feel like the price point it is charging. C7 ZR1 was well over 130k when new and yes it was supercharged but 60k base stingray beats it in performance simple na engine with it moving to the back. I am one of the buyers like many other buyers who only considered the corvette with it being a mid engine car. You give me a C7 I will sell it and buy another car and that can be any other car as the C7 can never appeal to me.
If you want to have a great car and have it appericate its easy the c7 Z06 manual that car will go up in value last front engine last manual will be super desirable
Back in 2001 I was driving a 3 year old 1998 C5 Torch Red Corvette with a $500 and something car payment. Back then my annual income was somewhere in the $20,000's Today the average American (which is by the way the majority) could not afford a 3 year old Corvette The car payment would be too high! It's sad how times have changed in our country for greed. More Americans should be able to experience the joy of driving these beautiful C7 Corvettes without having to win the lottery!😢
Zora the creator of corvettes! Originally wanted the car to be mid engine. Not front engine. So they went the direction they always wanted to begin with.
This is my eighth corvette and my third C7, and I loved them all. I like the C8 mid engine, but not a big fan of the interior. I don't like that you are isolated from your passenger, and they are as well. There is no place for the passenger to rest their left arm. I guess they figure you want to drive alone.
I own a c7 corvette grandsport. I have seen many c8 corvettes and also have rode in one. I have to say the c8 is an impressive car but it is not for me. It doesnt feel like a corvette or an american car. The interior is nice but i dont like that or care for it much and the looks of the car just looks like a cheaper ferrari. I love the C7 corvette for its classic sports car body that will always look good and that low rumble but loud classic V8 sound. The c7 is also easy to work on. I love the interior of the c7 it is just driver focused and nothing crazy going on its perfect drivers car. I wont be getting a C8 and i dont think the c8 deserves the vette name
So, are you saying the European cars are more reliable? You have zero credibility or know nothing about simple engineering. I'd take a GM Vette over Euro trash any day.
ford & dodge both have super cars (ford gt & viper) now corvette has their super car, c8 zo6 (i personally wouldnt classify the c8 as a super car, but a muscle car)
I have a C7 Z-51 7 speed Corvette and my car with same accessories is 20 k more in a C8 I have almost 10 years driving my C 7 for 66k miles plus storage space is big enough for golf clubs luggage etc for 2 people I drive my car and have never track it which needs extra insurance
i agree with the price but the mid-engine gives you handling beyond anything you could drive with a front placed motor and 1,050HP I bet you zo6 is even close with a tune with the nos your possibly 200+ short, 0 traction , no need to touch the motor other than some pipes, but if I'm honest I would take your car, but I'm not going to sit here and argue the c7 has it over the c8 , your car is beautiful and i agree with the sound ill take the chop all day long! nice whip bro.
Let’s go to where corvette came from it started out with a blue flame in-line 6 cylinder. Then they moved to exclusively small block v8s and then added big block v8s. It was around the C3 that the idea of going mid engine was imagined and rejected. There were lots of ideas that were never taken past just concept to progress the corvette to where is today. Keeping this in mind. My opinion the mid engine was inevitable but I feel the current c8 mid engine should have been a limited production branch platform than the actual corvette platform exclusively… for example release a C8 front engine legacy Corvette in mass production and have it match price demographics of what should be expected to be a corvette and then release like 600-700 a year exclusive mid engine corvettes and call it something like ZR1, Grand Sport, GT1R, C8R or King of the Hill or something of the like... they did branch the XLR off the corvette it was its own car but it had a lot of corvette in it. There has always been a special corvette that will out perform every other run of the mill corvette so I feel this would have been a better plan. As for the exhaust I have other opinions you are correct on the legacy corvette sound but for higher end models they should have that for idle to about 3000 rpm. Any thing above that should start to sing harmonics like a single plane crank v8 or well tuned 180 cross plane crank.
Totally agree! Got to have long sleek hood with huge curvature for the front wheel. It is corvette's DNA. Would of been better if the C7 kept the round tail lights.
While I get you on some points, I think this review will be nice to see redone after the C8 gen is complete. The ZR1 has already been confirmed, and another platform has been confirmed past that (Likely the Zora) so we are very likely to see boosted from the factory in the near future. Also with the pricing, you're comparing 4-8 year old used cars to cars that just came out in a recession economy post-covid, where they are unable to meet production. You can see this broken economy in the ZR1 resale where some are going up to the $200k mark used as well. So, I think the fair comparison would have been to make it New MSRP vs new MSRP. Otherwise, I totally get there are a lot of opinions, and whatever car you like should be the car you want, and that's always what matters! Cool video and I look forward to seeing you switch to a C8 in the future ;) haha. Also, that is a beaut of a C7 zo6!
I’m at a point I could sell c7 z51 and get a c8. Just can’t see myself getting rid of possibly one of the last greatest manuals and still a big fan of the body style. It just feels like a classic. Haven’t driven the c8 yet but idk if I could get myself to make the jump. Just seems I’d be disappointed selling c7 for c8
To me the c7 looks a lot better. Looks like a corvette should!
Exactly
C8 looks like the ugly child of a Ferrari and a McClaren.
@@TheMrPeteChannel Facts
@@TheMrPeteChannel lol
the c7 might be better performance wise but looks?
The best Corvette is the one you like ! some will prefer the C2, C3, C7, C8. Just be happy and drive safe 😊
C4 and C5 FTW
Shut up nerd
C6, am I a joke to you? C6z is the best imo. Almost bought one in showroom condition low miles for 35k but didn't have quite enough funds.
@@RichieWarbucks All Vettes from 1973-2006 should be lit on fire to purge them & preserve the Corvette name's reputation
The C8 is a Fake-arri.
Sounds about right. Main reason I'll stick with the C7 Z06
I've been in love with Corvette since 1969. The C7 is the Corvette that set my soul on fire. While I don't own mine yet, I did drive a '14 with a stick in '21. That was the highlight of my life. A right, proper Corvette is a front engine, rear wheel drive sports car., I believe a manual transmission is necessary to complete the experience.
Amen.
Curious. If it's common knowledge that the word "mine" implies ownership why did you choose to say "while I don't own *mine* yet" instead of "while I don't own *one* yet"? Did you do it to pretend it was more real & if so how do you think that comes across to other men? It's always the guys that say things like "when I get mine" then when you ask them how far along they are on working towards their goal you find they haven't even started.
@@gsxr1189 I think most men would be much more annoyed by your comment than Tenorman's. You have nothing better to do than pick apart random comments on a YT video? I'm guessing you haven't gotten that far towards your own goals, because if you had, you probably wouldn't be wasting time picking others apart over absolute BS on the internet. Or maybe you're just a demoralization bot? Or a communist?
@@gsxr1189 I subscribe to the law of attraction therefore, since my Vette is in my imagination, it's as good as in my garage. Since I've become a student of the law of attraction, I've looked back over my life and discovered I spoke into reality everything I have right now. Therefore, referring to my Corvette as mine, that draws it faster.
@Tenorman51 Can't tell if serious but you do you. I subscribe to the law of effort. I believe the harder I work the more I "attract" the things I want for my life & my Vette is in my PFP.
Manual transmission is the deciding factor for me....I need that manual...
Exaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaactly...
As a Vette owner with a built LS3 you’re definitely wrong and comparing a base C8 to the C7 Z06 is comical. This is nothing but low level satire at its best
Amen 🙏🏾
I still like the C6 more than both the C7 or C8.
I have a c7 but I still think a c6 wide body is one of the sexiest cars you can own
Helllll yeah brother 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻😎😎
@@Sick_ridz My '19 C7 Grand Sport 2LT has the sexy 'wide' body........
@@Sick_ridz you must have the Stingray
@@B126USMCI have a z51 and I’m not knocking the wide body on the c7, I just think the c6 wide body on the zr1 GS and z06 is ridiculous. Especially in black. I bought the z51 because I didn’t like the hood on the z06s and GS. The c7s are already a ridiculous wide car without wider fenders but I know it’s to run 335s. It wasn’t my cup of tea. Still sexy cars though I agree. I have basically all the z06 stuff on a silver z51 with carbon package and Zr1 wheels
I own and love my c7, however I have a slightly different list. The trans in the c8 was phenomenal when I got to drive one for a few laps and the power and grip was noticeably way better comparing my stock z51 c7 to the stock z51 c8. What I missed most was not being able to see any hood at all, which is a huge favorite part of my driving experience. But ya totally agree on only having spent just over 50k including mostly visual performance mods (grill swap, front and rear splitters, side skirt, zr1 style high wing) and an AWE touring exhaust, I honestly wouldn't trade, just save up for that magnuson supercharger and call it a wrap! Nice car dude!
Which was the point. Areo mods and Magnuson=Why the C7Z06 is the best buy
I have a 2019 C7 GS and just test drove a C8 yesterday. It was a non z51 2lt. Dealer had just put brand new tires on it and got an alignment on it. Stock for stock of course it's faster but the exhaust is not as loud and it felt heavy to me. The seats were very comfortable and everything was easy to get to and use. Sound system was great but honestly the bose in the 2lt GS sounds great as well. The front lift is a nice feature as well as blind spot monitoring! In my opinion the GS rides just as smooth probably because or the wider tires and body. C7 just feels more raw and feels like an actual Vette while the C8 seems more refined but to me kind of boring until you floor it. I wouldn't give up my C7 for it at all!
seems like what c6 owners would say when test driving c7.
@@KP-48-007 😂😂😂 c6 is a great car
Key word=RAW that’s what a vette should be.
Cap
Surprisingly, from a roll the C8 is only slightly faster if at all
As a former Vette owner (427 c6) there is nothing better than shifting the gears yourself. I'm old school and don't like the not being able to do that. I have warmed up to the C8's but if I get another Vette I'm going c7 z06. That car has it all.
No need to shift when the car can do it better and faster unless you just enjoy revving in neutral
I haven't seen a 60k c7 z06 for a long time.....ever😅 and anyone that pays 200k+ for a c8 z06 instead of a used porsche 911 turbo s is bonkers imo
C7 GS is the best car in its range.
I agree. Price and performance the C7 GS is best bang for buck!
C7 ZR1 corvette is the best PERIOD. However, Grand Sport Corvette is the best-looking PERIOD
Considering that Zora wanted the Vette to go mid-engine decades ago, it should be. But its still not a true part of what the car has been.
Zorra wanted a family of Vettes. Front engine, mid & 4 seaters.
You’re spot on…. The c7 is the last of the real corvettes. The c7 zo6 / zr1 are the baddest vettes you can get. The c5 c6 and c7 are Awsome!
You are RIGHT all along. C 7 All the way. The C8 is a REAR Engine Car!!!! Also unbalance!
Manual is the only reason why the c7 is better then the c8
WRONG!!
Depends on if you'd like your car to sound like an iconic American beast or sound like a European latte sipping soy boy. My pipes play the song of my people flat plane cranks do not.... 🇺🇲
I had a C6 and now am the happy owner of a 2019 2LT Grand Sport Long Beach Red Metallic, Kalahari interior and Chrome rims. I also have an automatic. I had a manual in my C6. I love my C7 because of the storage room for road trips. Unless you have the convertible C8 you have no room for luggage.
I did a road trip on the pacific coast Hwy and with soft luggage and careful loading I was able to anchor my targa roof for open air driving. If you bought alot of stuff you could do so but would lose the open air experience. I ran into a couple with a C8. They said the seating was more cramped than the C7 they previously owned.
It is subjective but I think my C7 is better looking than the C8. I was parked at an ocean viewpoint. A woman came up to me and asked if she could take a picture of my car. Almost any time I am out driving my GS someone says nice car even kids.
Same here. It' s almost Always a woman making the approach with the compliments. Makes my day !
Definitely agree with the sound of a Corvette. Shouldn’t sound borderline like an annoying modded muffler of a honda
If I could afford a vette, it definitely b a C7 over a C8. Great video
id go with the c7 over any other
Love my C7, even though I had to bypass the AFM (worst thing ever). Triple flush your transmission fluid if you have fluttering in the C7 A8 transmission. Muffler delete and pull the fuse for the exhaust valves. Now my C7 is way better.
You don’t have to pull the fuse I don’t think? I believe you can just go in your settings and set the valves to be always open!
The C7 is the last off the greats. Nate...give us a full total price breakdown after you think your done with all the mods.
Love the corvetts pre2020. Me and my car buddies feel the same. The new c8 is just not the same. We like the dying stigma that it's a car for old retired dudes because today we're seeing them modified and owned by younger dudes/ dudetts as well
As a current owner of a C8 and a previous owner of a C7 I totally disagree the c8 gaines way more attention and all-around feels like a more stable fast car on the track the C7 being Rwd with front-engine does not handle as well also fuel economy my c8 gets three and a half miles per gallon more than my C7 in my opinion that is why the C7 is cheaper than C8 the C7 when it came out was the same reaction as a C8 when it came out just a revolutionary body change however the C7 is outdated and although the prices of the c8r through the roof about 7 months ago you were able to get a sub 100,000 in Washington state at least I picked up mine for 97,000 however I understand that you are posting photos of it being a Z06 specifically C7 vs. C8 which is how you should have titled it in all honesty if you would have title that that way it would have made more sense but if you compare the C7 to the C8 vs. C7 is an outdated version and all-around not a great car compared to the c8 if you put it on the track dragstrip it doesn't really matter it will outshine the C7 any day of the week driving C7 and a c8 and I guarantee you it'll be way more eyes on the C8
Amen brother. I went up from a 2015 Corvette C7 Z51 to a 2022 C8 Z51. The difference is like night and day. I get WAY more attention in the C8 than I ever have in the C7. Performance wise the C8 being mid-engine and DCT completely obliterates the C7 Stingray. Handling is also extremely tight in the C8 compared to the C7. C8 is just an all-around better vehicle from almost every aspect you look at. The only thing I miss on my C7 is the 7 speed Rev Match Manual gearbox.
I agree that C7's in the Stingray trim are a bit bland but I think he's comparing C7 Z06's to C8 Stingray's due to the price. I wouldn't say that C7 Z06's don't get attention especially one's that are well spec'd. My car's in my PFP touch red z06 w/Z07 pack & I can hardly put gas in it without ppl walking up & wanting to talk about the car. Driving down the freeway everyone especially ppl with slower cars want to try to get me to race just to see the car in action. Women start smiling at you when you get out of it. Ppl ask me to roll down the windows at stop lights to talk about the car. It gets compliments everywhere it goes probably more so than a C8 Stingray. I didn't expect the car to get this much attention & honestly I'm not sure I like it was fun at 1st but it's a bit too much for me. The attention a car gets isn't a selling point for me but on the street I doubt a C8 would be willing to race unless it was a z06 & even then it's a draw. Personally I wouldn't be interested in a Vette in the Stingray trim because you're down so much horsepower you aren't getting the experience a car like a Vette is supposed to be giving you. I'd always be left wishing it had more juice.
My sentiments exactly... I almost feel that "c7 is better" opinions derive from lack of funds
The C7 is better because the C8 wants to "be Italian".
Part of the reason engine went in the back is chevy was at there limits with a front engine car for gt2 and gt3 racing.
With the engine in the back and different geometry the car is way more competitive now.
I understand though for the common owner on the street front engine might be more fun for them.
Great video Nate! I was hoping you'd cover this!
I own a C7 Z06 with just 12k miles and my list is :
1. It's better looking. A long-hood look that looks like a Vette, not a car trying to be something else.
2. Mine has a 7-speed manual. 'Nuff said.
3. Much higher top speed of 205 MPH
4. The price is half as much as a new Z06
5. Superior engine note. Much deeper than the new Z06, and fuller than the standard C8 Stingray
I love the c8 but the thing I hate about it is that it's a supercar, I love all the older corvettes that were muscle car style with the classic muscle car sound
Bad design and it is not a Mid Engine car ( 60 / 40 balance) C 7 is Balanced Corvette.
I love the C6 and C7 Grand Sport and Z06 models. I agree that ZR1 is king. The C8 is a revolutionary step for Corvette. That Arkus-Duntov had wanted to go mid-engine way-back-when makes this an acceptable revolution in my opinion. I appreciate Chevy's interest in making Corvette a higher performing car with the E-Ray platform and the higher-pitched Z06 engine. I suspect the C8 hyper-Vette will be named Zora and not ZR1, and I also think that is fine, maybe even fitting. And when I fire up my C7 GS, I love the rumble of the Corvette heritage. I'm keeping mine.
I’m getting a C8 couldn’t be happier. I love C7s too though considered getting one. But inflation hit the C7Z06 way to hard. Im getting a C8 stingray non Z51. For MSRP
where?
Yeah where
Chevrolet dealer in Licking County, Ohio has a ton of C8's. Hardly a C7 or older. Tells me something
Man you are wrong on the prices- c7s are going up in prices, and certain models (M7 for eg) will continue to do so as they are now become rarer than ever.
You got that right......my C7 just turned 4K miles..... Hibernates in the winter, never sits outside in inclement weather
At 130mph+ the C8 losses almost all steering, my C7 160mph+ and I can steer fine.
C7 looks much better because lines makes sense, and for 200k? Ill prefer Ferrari Roma! Its a perfect coupe for me!
After watching your channel I am definitely getting a C7 Z06!! 😎
Great points for sure, To each his own! Owned both and to me it’s not close C8 & now Z-06, just breaking in, hands down are better. Nostalgia or latest tech hopefully eventually we’ll be able to tune them.
They're tuning them already....
I don’t like the new Italian signature design look, not for me and I’m know I’m not the only one to dislike this proportions I rather the old Dodge Viper look alike that the corvette had with front engine and that huge displacement
I'm just going to say this..I hallo had a C7 1LT 2016.manuel...I love it..but I bought a 2LT 2p23 C8..and I REALLY love my C8..it's all about what you like...
11 minutes of my life I will never get back.
Agreed. This guy talked about nothing of substance. He should have focused on the asthetics or performance of a regular C7 and C8.
I met nate in person before and even said I've been watching him since his old s197 videos, he was not very knowledgeable or nice at all
Nobody forced you to watch
You could have stopped at 2 minutes, idiot
That camera is amazing bro!
I prefer the looks of the c7 Corvette. The rear end of the c8 looks too long and wide to me.
The C7 looks better to me!
The best one is whichever one you like the best like another comment said. That said I love my 70th anniversary C8.
After six Vettes, from C5's to my current C7 Z51 7MT 1 LT Conv I will remain a C7 owner, why? Number one, I would lose my manual tranny, and number two.....price. But the C8 is an amazing vehicle, the first time you can claim supercar looks/numbers with GM numbers........
C8 is better in every way hands down but the C7 has the last true corvette look
Get rid of the tow hook 👍🏼
Looks like you car is always breaking down DUDES! Needs a tow?
C7 Corvette is the only GM I'd ever consider owning.
3:15 Modifiable motor
4:55 7MT > Auto
7:50 ZR1; exhaust
Great vid. What a difference a year makes.C8 prices are dropping, while C7 prices are creeping up. The new ZR1 has been announced and likely shipping soon. As a fellow C7 Z06 owner, I can't wait to get hands on an Eray. Tire spin is no longer fun for me.
I've owned my C7 Z51 (Manual), since 2017 and wouldn't trade her for any other model corvette. I've added a lot of mods over the years and it's addictive! Lol, I'm sending her to VR this spring to have even more goodies put on. She should be hitting about 750-800hp to the wheels when they're done. It's gonna be a fun summer!!!
C7 2014 stingray L3 owner and I love it picked mine up for 32k blacked out red interior great car, I cant wait to drive a C8 but Im extremely happy with my C7
Why he said the the c8 zo6 has a cross plane it doesn’t it has a flat plane crank v8
Owned 5 vettes love them all, but that C7 ZO6 puts a smile on my face it’s hard not to step into it.
Absolutely correct. I have a C7 Z51 convertible with a manual transmission and I love it.
Yo I’m the first lmao lesss goooo
I think the c6 will stay my fav I love the body style of the car
the c8 is basically an off brand ferrari.
sorry have to say the c7 is what I will always think of a corvette and I if you ask me looks cooler
The c8 shouldn't even be called a corvette.
I had a C7 Z51 corvette, and now I own a C8 Z51. The C8 is WAY better on overall performance. The C8 sticks extremely better than the C7. I'm talking about side by side stock performance. Yes, the C8 price is more, but the actual performance is way better. I put wider tires on my C7 and lost performance. (My C7 kept spinning out even with traction control on) The mid-engine C8 is a game changer that won't go backwards, and the C8 gas mileage is superb when cruising around. C8 all the way 👍🏽👍🏽💯
The new ones are ok, but the c1, c2, and c3 are more classy and they did spark a great car brand in the years of the car industry
I own a 2018 z06 3lz with carbon ceramics making 741 wheel, I test drove a c8 and it just falls on its face after 2nd gear, very unimpressed, I haven’t gotten a chance to drive the c8 z06 yet, I did like the interior but the rawness of the c7 is real muscle car to me, the biggest reason I won’t buy a c8 is there’s no tuning , you can’t do anything to it 🤦♂️ , I did see that pro charger came out with a kit that uses the factory ecm, but it’s 20-22k just for the kit 30k installed 🤣😂
Insane smh might as well buy Silverado too daily for the price you would pay for the c8 procharger and installation
Hey Scott, can you please reach out to me regarding your Z06. I’m targeting that horsepower that your car has and want to hear about your build. I have a 17 Z06 with some mild bolt ons.
I agree with u men!! I have a dodge charger rt hemi loved it but soon ima trade it for c7 like urs but in white for 65k i feel great deal only 10 do miles
Coming from someone who has an opinion, but doesn’t have any say so. Strange.
I think so too , an this is a good video , cant wait to finish my built plus just got the stat ps100 wing from victor racing as part of my built.
I'd rather pay the premium for the C8 Z06 than buy a Ferrari, Lamborghini, or Porsche. But I do prefer the C7 Z06 over the C8. Can't beat the performance of the C7Z....even if you pay top dollar for it.
I’d consider myself a pretty hardcore car enthusiast but even I can’t justify spending 200k on a car. Maybe if I had a really successful business and other dreams of mine are fulfilled but 200k on a car is crazy that’s just my opinion. Rn the most I’m willing to spend on a car is 110k and that’s through financing I don’t have 100k to outright purchase. And even that number is high for me right now Ngl I’m not made of money 😂😂
😎💯🔥👍🏾…C7 GS/Z06 all day!!!
The main reason GM went with the rear engine C8 was because the C7 ZR1 pushed the C7 platform to the limit, and to get faster 0-60 times it was necessary to go with a mid-engine design. And yes, given the same model, the C8 is faster than the C7. But saying all of that, after taking a very close look at the C8 I decided I'm not buying one, regardless of price. I plan to keep my C7. It's not exclusively about the speed for me. To me the C7 just looks better and meaner, and the C7's interior is cleaner and doesn't look as cramped as the C8 (especially on the passenger side). Also I really like the C7's rear storage area, great for trips. Normally when a new generation Corvette comes along it takes me some time to get used to it, although it wasn't that way with the C7. I liked the C7 design immediately. As for the C8, initially I thought its look would grow on me, but after 4 years, it hasn't, which honestly makes me a bit sad. I'm hoping GM does better with the design of the C9 and also brings back the manual transmission option. Yes, manuals don't shift as fast, but manuals provide the real sports car experience. (Porsche gets it.) I do wish my C7 had some of the features of the C8, like Adaptive Cruise Control, its Front Lift system, Blind Spot Monitoring and a Rear Mirror Camera but for me those options aren't not worth switching to a C8. Just my .02.
I'm out here breaking necks with my z51 c8
What is your exhaust setup?
I've owned 15 Vettes since 1989. My current ride is a '19 ZR1 ragtop, Sebring Orange Tintcoat. It's an animal on steroids and definitely a 'keeper.'
My next Vette will likely be the C8 Zora but I will wait for owner reviews and a fair deal. Not going for any of the crazy 'market adjustment' pricing.
While I agree I’m not paying well over 100k for a GM product….. the c8 to me is superior to the c7. If I had a c7 would I get rid of it for a c8… probably not. But if I’m buying one today im definitely picking the c8 no question
I wanted a base model manual (7MT) coupe for the longest time. The only other 7MT’s available, were either through Aston Martin or Porsche; which idk if they’ve killed off or not yet (probably did)….
I came into this video skeptical, but you quickly won me over haha
That c7 zr1 best car ever made period
Great video i really like that u said that the value of a corvette is meant to be 50-90k not 200k love the chanel and the videos
Nate what exhaust do you have on your C7??? I'm going to get my exhaust change from stock and your sound just the way I want mine too so what do you have???
Love the C7 so much better than the C8 one reason I have a 19 Z06 7-speed manual.
All good points hence I just went with base Stingray C8. I would not pay the price difference for Z06 even at MsRp it is 40-50k more at top trim. Zr1 and Zora all to push the delta even more possibly 100k plus. When it comes to C7 I just would not buy it for the interior finish. The C8 is still not 911 finish on the inside but it sure is 100 times better and it does now feel like the price point it is charging. C7 ZR1 was well over 130k when new and yes it was supercharged but 60k base stingray beats it in performance simple na engine with it moving to the back. I am one of the buyers like many other buyers who only considered the corvette with it being a mid engine car. You give me a C7 I will sell it and buy another car and that can be any other car as the C7 can never appeal to me.
If you want to have a great car and have it appericate its easy the c7 Z06 manual that car will go up in value last front engine last manual will be super desirable
Back in 2001 I was driving a 3 year old 1998 C5 Torch Red Corvette with a $500 and something car payment.
Back then my annual income was somewhere in the $20,000's
Today the average American (which is by the way the majority) could not afford a 3 year old Corvette
The car payment would be too high!
It's sad how times have changed in our country for greed.
More Americans should be able to experience the joy of driving these beautiful C7 Corvettes without having to win the lottery!😢
Zora the creator of corvettes! Originally wanted the car to be mid engine. Not front engine. So they went the direction they always wanted to begin with.
This is my eighth corvette and my third C7, and I loved them all. I like the C8 mid engine, but not a big fan of the interior. I don't like that you are isolated from your passenger, and they are as well. There is no place for the passenger to rest their left arm. I guess they figure you want to drive alone.
There's definitely c8s out there around 80-100k still more than msrp but 120-200k is z06 territory
I own a c7 corvette grandsport. I have seen many c8 corvettes and also have rode in one. I have to say the c8 is an impressive car but it is not for me. It doesnt feel like a corvette or an american car. The interior is nice but i dont like that or care for it much and the looks of the car just looks like a cheaper ferrari. I love the C7 corvette for its classic sports car body that will always look good and that low rumble but loud classic V8 sound. The c7 is also easy to work on. I love the interior of the c7 it is just driver focused and nothing crazy going on its perfect drivers car. I wont be getting a C8 and i dont think the c8 deserves the vette name
C8 the Fake-arri.
So, are you saying the European cars are more reliable? You have zero credibility or know nothing about simple engineering. I'd take a GM Vette over Euro trash any day.
ford & dodge both have super cars (ford gt & viper) now corvette has their super car, c8 zo6 (i personally wouldnt classify the c8 as a super car, but a muscle car)
I have a C7 Z-51 7 speed Corvette and my car with same accessories is 20 k more in a C8 I have almost 10 years driving my C 7 for 66k miles plus storage space is big enough for golf clubs luggage etc for 2 people I drive my car and have never track it which needs extra insurance
The C7 exhaust is better mines aftermarket. Lol.
Flame kit next!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
i agree with the price but the mid-engine gives you handling beyond anything you could drive with a front placed motor and 1,050HP I bet you zo6 is even close with a tune with the nos your possibly 200+ short, 0 traction , no need to touch the motor other than some pipes, but if I'm honest I would take your car, but I'm not going to sit here and argue the c7 has it over the c8 , your car is beautiful and i agree with the sound ill take the chop all day long! nice whip bro.
Let’s go to where corvette came from it started out with a blue flame in-line 6 cylinder. Then they moved to exclusively small block v8s and then added big block v8s. It was around the C3 that the idea of going mid engine was imagined and rejected. There were lots of ideas that were never taken past just concept to progress the corvette to where is today. Keeping this in mind. My opinion the mid engine was inevitable but I feel the current c8 mid engine should have been a limited production branch platform than the actual corvette platform exclusively… for example release a C8 front engine legacy Corvette in mass production and have it match price demographics of what should be expected to be a corvette and then release like 600-700 a year exclusive mid engine corvettes and call it something like ZR1, Grand Sport, GT1R, C8R or King of the Hill or something of the like... they did branch the XLR off the corvette it was its own car but it had a lot of corvette in it. There has always been a special corvette that will out perform every other run of the mill corvette so I feel this would have been a better plan.
As for the exhaust I have other opinions you are correct on the legacy corvette sound but for higher end models they should have that for idle to about 3000 rpm. Any thing above that should start to sing harmonics like a single plane crank v8 or well tuned 180 cross plane crank.
C8s look like shit. Looks like a off brand lambo. I honestly think the c7 is peak chevy vette.
Totally agree! Got to have long sleek hood with huge curvature for the front wheel. It is corvette's DNA. Would of been better if the C7 kept the round tail lights.
Your face looks funny 😅
While I get you on some points, I think this review will be nice to see redone after the C8 gen is complete.
The ZR1 has already been confirmed, and another platform has been confirmed past that (Likely the Zora) so we are very likely to see boosted from the factory in the near future.
Also with the pricing, you're comparing 4-8 year old used cars to cars that just came out in a recession economy post-covid, where they are unable to meet production. You can see this broken economy in the ZR1 resale where some are going up to the $200k mark used as well. So, I think the fair comparison would have been to make it New MSRP vs new MSRP.
Otherwise, I totally get there are a lot of opinions, and whatever car you like should be the car you want, and that's always what matters! Cool video and I look forward to seeing you switch to a C8 in the future ;) haha. Also, that is a beaut of a C7 zo6!
Better have a BIG BANK ACCOUNT
Hey Nate, love the car👏🏾 C7 is the king daddy😊
C2, C3, and C7 for me
Dissonance at its best! Thank you but no thank you, C8 is king!
Hardly… the C8 looks
awful compared to the C7, especially the Grand Sport and Z06.
End of story.
I would be happy to die after one day of owning a C7, ZR-1
I’m at a point I could sell c7 z51 and get a c8. Just can’t see myself getting rid of possibly one of the last greatest manuals and still a big fan of the body style. It just feels like a classic. Haven’t driven the c8 yet but idk if I could get myself to make the jump. Just seems I’d be disappointed selling c7 for c8
I love the look of the C7 so much and yours is absoilutley beatuful and nasty, you dressed it pefectly, good job, shes gorgeous.