At last I get to try my 899 Panigale out on a track - a fabulous day for my first visit to the GP circuit at Donington and to see what goes on at a typical motorcycle track day....
Nice to see your old intro film again - haven’t seen that for a few years. After watching your latest Ducati video, this felt like watching a very old episode of Top Gear!!
+birdoneword ...well I didn't know what to expect that first time I went and the format of this one was pretty much identical, so I thought it was worth sharing in case there are other newbies like me out there interested - thanks for watching and stopping by - good to hear from you again......TMF
Excellent! Strong production values as ever, with a great mix of bike shots and commentary. Only done track days when I had a Caterham, but good to relive that mix of excitement and adrenaline! Thanks :)
Excellent video as usual. Not sure I have the guts to fly around like you did and anyway my Bonny is a little sedate for track days. I will continue to live vicariously through vids such as yours.
Worth pointing out you can have a word with the instructors on the day, they are in garage 1, they will take you round to show you what's what (it's free too). Also when booking check if it's a quiet day (98db) which you will need baffles or if it's a 104db day (baffles out). No Limits also supply free tea & coffee and in my experience are the friendliest most helpful trackday company 👍
just sat down with my coffee and biscuits to watch wednesdays installment and as it was postponed untill tommorow , youtube suggested this vid from 2 yrs ago . Great vid etc and I had forgotten about your actual beginings of the older videos with the music and small intro video. I think you should consider putting this back on all your videos its very catchy , up beat and unique to you.Loooking forward to live feed tomorrow
wow , that is simply staggering and also interersting at the same time. Either way you are doing a grand job and its good to know this continual and evolving channel is in your capable hands
Whats the situation with insrance, i understand it usually doesnt cover track days so track insurance is needed. Is it worth going for that based on the large excess thats involved or is it a case of most people just go without? cheers
It is super expensive - last track day I did with this bike cost me around £300 just for the day (just for the insurance) - hence most people don't bother, hence why I now don't do track days on my bikes!!
little tip... with your corners you want to be coming in slowly so you can get back on the throttle as you finish braking or when you tip the bike into the corner, about 15, 20% throttle, this loads the chain and back wheel up making the bike a LOT more stable, once you master it youl definitely go round faster. .. probably already know but just thought id mention it
I was trying to find you a link to a Performance Plus course which is done at Cadwell Park with Hopp Rider Training and Lincolnshire Police / Safe Rider scheme. It was a part class room part track event. It was really informative and after the training you could lap Cadwell on your at your own speed. I can highly recommend it.
+antonoat Thank you Tony, you're the first to say that, mostly people take the P out my spidey top but at last someone appreciates my style....I'm sticking with it...
Been thinking of doing my first track day and found your video, followed you for a couple years now, I must say I think you've lost a bit of weight from back then 😁
Its perhaps easy for me to say this sat at home on a comfy chair but your speeds looked a bit pedestrian. I suppose you have to ride within your ability to remain safe but I find your channel an interesting resource. Cheers mate.
sorry mate I know this video was put up a long time ago but was just wondering would you be able to take ur 125 out on the same days as the big bikes or do u have to go to a different day if u want to ride ur 125 on a track day
+Ross Maher I don't honestly know, you would be blown away by the regular boys on litre bikes but I don't see why not - best to check with one of the track day organisers like no limits (they may not want you mixing it if you are very slow...)...
Another great vid, thanks. I've done one track day which was at Snetterton on my 1098 (the bike I had before my current Street Triple). It was billed as a Novice day, but lots of people out who clearly weren't novices (dedicated track bikes, tyre warmers, etc), so quite intimidating. I saw 3 people come off. The riders looked a lot more restrained in your vid than I remember from my day, but that could be the difference between watching from a sofa, vs. 'high alert' on track recollection ;-) Nevertheless, fantastic experience, and I'm trying to summon the courage to do it again on my Triple ;-) Worth mentioning that standard bike insurance doesn't cover track days.
+Nigel Street Hi Nigel, yes I know what you mean, some peoples definition of "novice" is obviously different to ours and these sessions can be quite intimidating for us newbies. Good point on the insurance, I should have mentioned that...cheers for stopping by - TMF
Enjoyed the vid, especially having done the Ron Haslam race school last month at Donnigton which was my first track day ever. As a fellow beginner I watched your lap with great interest. Can thoroughly recommend the race school as the instruction was top notch although you do have to use their bikes.
I also agree you deserve more subs. I came to this sub because of my love of the street triple but have been more than pleased with your other content. Keep it up but I would love some more quick shift st3 videos in the future. I seriously hope you get a hold of the 2020 model soon.
What is the cost at Donington for one TrackDay? I am in the U.S. and watch the British Superbike Championship Series. Bridewell, Hill, Sykes, Ellison, Shane Burn "Shakey" I love the tracks and riders in Britain.
+TheMissendenFlyer Are you planning on coming to the "silly sausage fest" at Loomies motocafe this year? Should be a right laugh, would be great to see you there
I was at Donnington with No Limits on the 12th of May and it was manic due to some pro teams testing in the fast group. It was a great day though, and I'm just uploading the vid for it now. Great fun!
very nice video. TFS. Also, i realized that your body positioning while cornering is not the "hanging off to lessen the bike s lean angle". rather its more of leaning with the bike. did you start hanging off it eventually?
@@TheMissendenFlyer of course, i wouldnt call it jazz though. there is a reason its there for of course. was wondering if you took up cornering and was regular at the race tracks. i am yet to begin my track day still and trying to soak in information. thanks.
...no I'm not really a regular - I enjoy the odd track day or two a year (because I think it makes you a better rider) but I'm not addicted like some....defo worth you having a go...
I'm always nervous about warming tyres thoroughly before exploring 'bum twitching' lean angles. Was there advice from instructor about this issue? Thanks for vid by the way.
+Paul Robson Actually Paul, the briefing/advice at this particular track day wasn't that much cop - as far as tyres were concerned the only advice offered was "drop your pressures a bit"......I think most people that go on these days (given they are quite expensive) have an inkling about warming your tyres up...at least I like to think so! Good point though, thanks for stopping by - TMF
+therealmrcheese Yeah me too - I'm not really a be anywhere by 7:30am sort of person - I put it down to the slightly testosterone fuelled macho thing that can go with these days, if you don't do stupidly early then you must be a poofter....(with chicken strips and unscathed knee sliders....like me)
Great vid!!! :) Track days over here (US), at least those in my area, have classroom sessions between track times. Is that something done there or is it riding only? There are also venues for other than sportbikes - tourers/adventure/supermoto.
+Jim Goddard Cheers Jim - we have both types here, this was just a pure track day, others have classroom time too but tend to be a bit more expensive (obviously)....
Thanks for the insight on what happens on a track day. Never went to one but would love to go someday. Did you have insurance? Oh and didn't you change the bulbs in your Panigale to a white light? Keep up the great videos! You are so relaxed and calm, it's just a joy watching your videos!
great video I am still debating taking my ducati 1199 out on a trackday.did you try the quick shifter out on the day?I tried mine the other day it's great but would be amazing on the track.
+Martin Brown Oh yes, boy did the DQS get a workout! Great gadget... :0) Thoroughly recommend you getting the 1199 out on track and giving it a go yourself, just don't bin it!
I've been following your 899 uploads since I bought mine and I have found that you have asked and answered all the questions that goes with owning one. Being a lifelong motorcyclist, but unskilled 'big bike' rider, I had contemplated doing a track day. After watching this it had taken away the apprehension that I didn't know I had. Excellent Video/sDid you also contemplate whether to install engine/axle sliders?
Great - I'm glad to have ben of use! No I didn't install any protection for the bike, but for my next track day I have got myself some insurance...I may do a video on this in it's own right as that's a bit of a minefield too!
Great that mate, did you take out extra track day insurance for the Panigale? My provider (MCE) say track days are covered but I would be sceptical to say the least.
+Lee McDonald No I didn't, I just kept my fingers crossed - but so many people have mentioned this now I'm starting to think in future I should do, would be a costly error if I binned my lovely Duke down the circuit :0( ....and I share you scepticism if your insurance premiums are reasonable! Thanks for the kind words - TMF
Great video once again. Found this really interesting as I have been thinking about doing one for years, see what my S1000RR was really designed for. Sadly never really had the bottle (don't want to throw the bike down the road) plus we only really have knockhill in Scotland so would have a bit of a journey to a decent track. Did you just ride the bikes there or did you stick them in a van or on a trailer? Good wee insight, keep the vids coming 👍
+dave80h ...well I think you should try it at least once, if you're that worried at some circuits you can even hire bikes! Donington is a fair distance from me (about 130ish miles) and we rode up the night before, did the track day, then rode home (via the pub).....all very civilised on such a lovely day weather wise...
+Boodieman72 Good point! ...hang on I'll look it up.... £145 for the No Limits track day on a Monday + £36 for a night at the Premier Inn just up the road, £20 supper, £15 lunch and about £30 for fuel.... :0)
+Adrian Rigby ?......not enough, and anyway, i didn't have my knee sliders :0) ....and you are quite right, I'm no racer or track day addict, but I'm convinced taking your bike on one of these makes you a better rider overall (and does teach you your limits in a safe environment).....
+TheMissendenFlyer after watching this video which tells you what to expect I'm really thinking of doing a track to get know my bike and what i am capable as i need to build on my cornering!! Good video!!!!
+SGITA46 That was my intention - glad you found it of interest! Get yourself on a track day - will make you a better rider and you'll learn loads about you and the bikes abilities.....cheers for watching - TMF
well done TMF, you've certainly got the bike for the job, track days never really interested me, but I know they can be great fun, was this a Ron haslam track day?.
on a more serious note, have you ever thought of investing in a neck brace?, particularly for track days and maybe for the off road days on the Honda?. I'm seriously looking at maybe the Latte they do one for track and one for adventure riding....serveral of my friends wouldn't go away without one on...just a thought ride safe
+Black Hawk Yes those have crossed my mind - if you go for one let me know how you find it? I'm a bit loathe to get even more bulked up on the bike but I entirely see the logic.....
+TheMissendenFlyer Warm up quick enough on the road I take it? Torn between those and the supercorsas, keeping the heat in with supercorsas is my only concern, especially when autumn comes around!
+G B A that is a shame, at this event you weren't allowed a camera on your person or on the fuel tank (for some reason I don't quite get) - I mounted mine on the handlebars!
Watching your videos is turning out to be expensive :). Just ordered an R30 after seeing your review and now I am actively considering doing a track day on my gsxr 1000.
I've been riding for eighteen months and am now looking around for my first track day. I have a BMW F800 GT, which is not at all a race bike, so I was wondering whether this machine would be suitable, or should I opt for the hiring of one of the event's bikes? Thanks for the video, it was very helpful :) Cheers!
Hi Matt, for sure you can take the BMW on track - I've seen all sorts out there....just don't go in the fast group or expect not to be overtaken! :0) You'll be fine on that.....
You should go for it, as I said I did my first track day on the Street Triple, I've even seen BMW GS' on track days! No one cares what you bring (within reason).....You certainly won't be the fastest on track but you will have a great deal of fun and learn loads about your bike.....
Great video. I was there on my zx6r track bike too. I'm reluctant to take my 899 on the track as I know, once I do, it'll end up getting converted and never used on the road again
+TheMissendenFlyer I'm doing the Ducati test day at Silverstone next week, so that'll be it's maiden track voyage :) Then the Ducati only track days next month. I feer I may have a ZX6R track bike for sale soon after
Beautiful editing as always. Thanks for your effort. Was curious if there were any non racing type bikes puttering around. "All" I have is a GS but would still like to try a track day on it. Panniers on or off, hmmmm.
+Gregory Beckner Thanks...there were a few nakeds and street type bikes, it wasn't all sport bikes. I saw several GS's on the track when I went to Snetterton and it was amazing how quick they were, I fancy taking mine on track one day, just for the LOLs like....go for it!
bloody awesome stuff TMF,..plan on tryin my triple at some point,maybe a Cadwell track day up my way....BUT was thinking of doing the rental bike way first time up just till i find my feet! can i ask,about taking the go-pro's on the bikes,i know ive seen lots of track days with riders using cams but ive allways been under the impression they were not allowed?? i take it you just have to tether it all down properly,have it checked ect??!! anyway....great stuff,..ride safe...bizz
+Bizz Thanks Bizz - the GoPro in this case wasn't allowed on your person/helmet or on the bike fuel tank, other than that, as long as secure, then no issue (they wouldn't let you out on track otherwise - I got stopped at Snetterton for having a camera on my head....hence no video of that day)....
Great video, would love a shot a Donnington! I notice all the bikes still had their mirrors on. When I registered for a track day here (USA) I had to have the bike safety inspected, mirrors and turn signals removed, headlight taped, antifreeze replaced with water. What prep did they have you do on the Duc to get her approved for the track?
+Chuck Skovira Hi Chuck, yes track days here do seem to vary and generally people do tape up lights, remove or tape up mirrors etc, this particular event was quite relaxed however (I'm glad to say)....only prep I did to the bike was reducing tyre pressure slightly and putting the exhaust baffles back in!
Here in the UK (at the time of writing Aug 2022) you can leave your mirrors on though it is recommended to turn them in; headlights/indicators do not need to be taped up; you do not need to change your coolant. In addition to what TMF has mentioned you now need a front brake guard and a full back protector. Noise levels in the UK can be strict and you get 1 warning to resolve before your bike has to be retired. If you have a leak get yourself off the racing line asap and notify the staff.
Wow I'm impressed. Don't think I would have the balls for that. Even though you had insurance, weren't you nervous about taking such a lovely bike on the track? I think I would buy an old Cbr for the track.
+Mister borntodrill To be honest I didn't think about the negative side too much - just thought "have sports bike, go on track" - you've got me worried for Silverstone now!! :0/
+TheMissendenFlyer I think The Barron buys cheap fairings for his track bikes. I wonder if you might get some eBay Chinese specials. BTW love the videos, I like the fact you are a normal bloke who doesn't feel the need to show off on a bike.
+TheMissendenFlyer Yes it's amazing how cheap you can pick up a set of knock-off fairings for these on E-Bay, may have to have a look into that. Primarily though I bought the 899 for road use, it's not a "track day bike" only to me so we'll see....
+TheMissendenFlyer You seem like a decent bloke that would be a laugh down the pub. Some others on TH-cam come across a bit like erm...... plonkers! :)
I think the Softail would suck at that and the FJR possibly too heavy? I'd quite like to try it one day. Does your road insurance cover for track and what happens if someone else slides their bike into yours and writes it off? I've heard it's just a hand shake and tough luck "That's Racing mate" kind of scenario.
+Hepcat Harley Yeah I think you're right - you'd have to check with your insurance company but I have a feeling many specifically exclude track days - you can get track day insurance...but mighty expensive...so you take your choice I guess!!! (scary biscuits eh!)
+TheMissendenFlyer As I am rapidly approaching 60, seeing someone travel at over 100mph seems brave.....then there's the issue of dropping the bike! My bikes tend to get less use but more polish the older I get. But I still love owning them. It's an age thing so enjoy it like I did when I was younger!
+JLO Staff Understood - although to be fair 100mph on this bike seems like 60 on any other, the bike really is built for this sort of caper (well on the track anyway!).....
+inquisitor 717 Well it was my second time and I have another booked at Silverstone, I'm trying not to get addicted, but I must admit I am really looking forward to it :0)
+ETS2 Screenshots ...I seem to always get copyright strikes whenever I do anything with music....so probably not, sorry! Thanks for watching though, all the best - TMF
+ETS2 Screenshots Yeah it's not quite as simple as that - you have to credit the pieces in a certain way - for example I paid for the music I use in the opening titles and bought a licence to use on You Tube - I have still had a YT enquiry into my use of it though!
Always such high quality excellent content. The community really appreciates your efforts.
+RyanTCB Thank you Ryan - I appreciate your appreciation!! ;0)
Very helpful to a newbie going to track in a couple weeks...appreciate the candor!
Glad it was helpful!
Nice to see your old intro film again - haven’t seen that for a few years. After watching your latest Ducati video, this felt like watching a very old episode of Top Gear!!
Cool, thanks for watching!
Good video dude, makes a difference to most track vids. You actually told us what to expect.
+birdoneword ...well I didn't know what to expect that first time I went and the format of this one was pretty much identical, so I thought it was worth sharing in case there are other newbies like me out there interested - thanks for watching and stopping by - good to hear from you again......TMF
Excellent! Strong production values as ever, with a great mix of bike shots and commentary. Only done track days when I had a Caterham, but good to relive that mix of excitement and adrenaline! Thanks :)
+Nick Staib Cheers Nick - coming from you that is great praise indeed!
Excellent video as usual. Not sure I have the guts to fly around like you did and anyway my Bonny is a little sedate for track days. I will continue to live vicariously through vids such as yours.
Really exciting and insightful video with a great commentary! Thanks so much for sharing.
Glad you liked it Matthew!
very interesting, looked like great fun. another great video
+George Illing Thank you George, it was great fun... :0)
Bravo Bravo....
Aw that looked an absolutely great day out.... And the Still pic's you got where cool I thought 😎😎😎
Thanks for sharing your day! this looks fantastic, I don't think I could want a panigale any more than i do now!
+Jake Croft hehe, they are fabulous bits of kit aren't they - gotta love the looks and that bark over 7000rpm....
Very good!! Absolutely loved this video... Keep them comming Mr flyer 😊
+Lee Grattan Thank you Lee - will do....all the best - TMF
you are making me, want to have a sport bike to do that.. it looks like a lot of fun!!
+simone pozzoni Go for it, you are missing out otherwise ;0)
Worth pointing out you can have a word with the instructors on the day, they are in garage 1, they will take you round to show you what's what (it's free too). Also when booking check if it's a quiet day (98db) which you will need baffles or if it's a 104db day (baffles out). No Limits also supply free tea & coffee and in my experience are the friendliest most helpful trackday company 👍
...yeah good points Flying Yeti, thanks for stopping by and raising them.....all the best - TMF
Thanks for this mate. I have my first track day down at Castle Combe in August, and this was really handy.
Enjoy David
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Super video, very accurate and most of all sensible, well done.
Cheers Lee, "sensible" is my middle name (just don't let any attractive women know)....
Hi TMF: That looked like great fun 👍🏻
Using the quick shifter on the track must have felt good too 🏍
Thanks for uploading another great Vlog.
+SBKPete Yeah it was a right hoot, sounded good too :0)
Another great video! That bike is painfully beautiful !
+Jetskicentral thank you - I have to agree of course! :0)
just sat down with my coffee and biscuits to watch wednesdays installment and as it was postponed untill tommorow , youtube suggested this vid from 2 yrs ago . Great vid etc and I had forgotten about your actual beginings of the older videos with the music and small intro video. I think you should consider putting this back on all your videos its very catchy , up beat and unique to you.Loooking forward to live feed tomorrow
Cheers Mike - sadly I lost 50% of my viewers while that intro ran, hence why I ditched it :0(
wow , that is simply staggering and also interersting at the same time. Either way you are doing a grand job and its good to know this continual and evolving channel is in your capable hands
Very well done video!
+Matt S. Thank you Matt - appreciate it...
Whats the situation with insrance, i understand it usually doesnt cover track days so track insurance is needed. Is it worth going for that based on the large excess thats involved or is it a case of most people just go without?
cheers
It is super expensive - last track day I did with this bike cost me around £300 just for the day (just for the insurance) - hence most people don't bother, hence why I now don't do track days on my bikes!!
little tip... with your corners you want to be coming in slowly so you can get back on the throttle as you finish braking or when you tip the bike into the corner, about 15, 20% throttle, this loads the chain and back wheel up making the bike a LOT more stable, once you master it youl definitely go round faster. .. probably already know but just thought id mention it
+therealmrcheese Thanks, I need all the advice I can get! ;0)
I was trying to find you a link to a Performance Plus course which is done at Cadwell Park with Hopp Rider Training and Lincolnshire Police / Safe Rider scheme. It was a part class room part track event. It was really informative and after the training you could lap Cadwell on your at your own speed. I can highly recommend it.
That looked like major fun, great video as usual.
Nice shirt by the way!
cheers
tony
+antonoat Thank you Tony, you're the first to say that, mostly people take the P out my spidey top but at last someone appreciates my style....I'm sticking with it...
Where is the compulsory group shower afterwards?? Least that happened on my last track day? 🤔
Been thinking of doing my first track day and found your video, followed you for a couple years now, I must say I think you've lost a bit of weight from back then 😁
I have indeed - thankyou for noticing...! :0)
Great Video!!! Would love to see more like this!! Nice job!
+Cameron Cross Thank you Cameron, appreciate the kind feedback....all the best - TMF
Its perhaps easy for me to say this sat at home on a comfy chair but your speeds looked a bit pedestrian. I suppose you have to ride within your ability to remain safe but I find your channel an interesting resource. Cheers mate.
Indeed you do and 150mph is plenty fast enough for me!
sorry mate I know this video was put up a long time ago but was just wondering would you be able to take ur 125 out on the same days as the big bikes or do u have to go to a different day if u want to ride ur 125 on a track day
+Ross Maher I don't honestly know, you would be blown away by the regular boys on litre bikes but I don't see why not - best to check with one of the track day organisers like no limits (they may not want you mixing it if you are very slow...)...
So would you recommend NoLimits to someone who'd never done one before? Did you use MSV when you were at Snetterton?
Yes and yes!
Thanks, very informative! Ride safe.
+Roy Smith Thank you Roy, you too...
Looks Like Alot Of Fun
Yeah it was a hoot, can't wait for the next one...
That Panigale looks and sounds incredible!
Yeah I love it :0)
TMF, that has got to be one of the most ghastly shirts I've ever seen you wear 😂
Another great vid, thanks. I've done one track day which was at Snetterton on my 1098 (the bike I had before my current Street Triple). It was billed as a Novice day, but lots of people out who clearly weren't novices (dedicated track bikes, tyre warmers, etc), so quite intimidating. I saw 3 people come off. The riders looked a lot more restrained in your vid than I remember from my day, but that could be the difference between watching from a sofa, vs. 'high alert' on track recollection ;-) Nevertheless, fantastic experience, and I'm trying to summon the courage to do it again on my Triple ;-) Worth mentioning that standard bike insurance doesn't cover track days.
+Nigel Street Hi Nigel, yes I know what you mean, some peoples definition of "novice" is obviously different to ours and these sessions can be quite intimidating for us newbies. Good point on the insurance, I should have mentioned that...cheers for stopping by - TMF
This video is as good as that jacket is bad... so excellent video!
+Joe Stankiewicz What my leather one?? ...don't say you're referring to my very expensive Spyder mid layer????
haha, I don't like to take the mick out of anyone, but that jacket bent and then snapped my will.
PS how many tanks of fuel did you go through in the day?
+Joe Stankiewicz I've no idea what you're on about...
+Joe Stankiewicz I filled her up once on the track day...
Enjoyed the vid, especially having done the Ron Haslam race school last month at Donnigton which was my first track day ever. As a fellow beginner I watched your lap with great interest. Can thoroughly recommend the race school as the instruction was top notch although you do have to use their bikes.
+Matthew Godding Thanks Matt - glad you enjoyed it....
I also agree you deserve more subs. I came to this sub because of my love of the street triple but have been more than pleased with your other content. Keep it up but I would love some more quick shift st3 videos in the future. I seriously hope you get a hold of the 2020 model soon.
Thank you!
lovlely vid and info!
will prob never do myself because of money.
But brilliant day out looks like!
Get that knee down!!!
Keep up the good work!
Thanks Darian - Lovin' the avatar too - that the BBMF PR9??
What is the cost at Donington for one TrackDay? I am in the U.S. and watch the British Superbike Championship Series. Bridewell, Hill, Sykes, Ellison, Shane Burn "Shakey" I love the tracks and riders in Britain.
This was a while ago and I don’t recall - typically they are £150ish iirc - that sort of ballpark....
Brilliant, I love the sound of that 899 as it shoots hard
+Sofa Bear Yeah, she sounds as good as she looks!
+TheMissendenFlyer Just as well really or that would be one hell of an expensive centre piece...
+Sofa Bear Indeed :0)
+TheMissendenFlyer Are you planning on coming to the "silly sausage fest" at Loomies motocafe this year? Should be a right laugh, would be great to see you there
+Sofa Bear Wasn't planning on it - when is it?
Useful- thanks!
Nice video. I subed. I am planing my first track day at Knockhill, Scotland. I hope the weather will be as nice as you had.
Good luck with that and welcome along!
Nice video been thinking about giving a track day ago. Gives a good insight into what to expect cheers
+BobXmoto Glad you found it of interest - thanks for stopping by....TMF
Fun and practical too. Did you get instruction the first time you went?
+gadgetsandwheels Yes, that day included more instructional elements - this was just a pure riding day....
I was at Donnington with No Limits on the 12th of May and it was manic due to some pro teams testing in the fast group. It was a great day though, and I'm just uploading the vid for it now. Great fun!
+VeeFour Glad I was there a few days earlier then - was quite quiet on the Monday....
very nice video. TFS. Also, i realized that your body positioning while cornering is not the "hanging off to lessen the bike s lean angle". rather its more of leaning with the bike. did you start hanging off it eventually?
Nope - I'm only a road rider, I'm not really into knee down and all that jazz.....
@@TheMissendenFlyer of course, i wouldnt call it jazz though. there is a reason its there for of course. was wondering if you took up cornering and was regular at the race tracks. i am yet to begin my track day still and trying to soak in information. thanks.
...no I'm not really a regular - I enjoy the odd track day or two a year (because I think it makes you a better rider) but I'm not addicted like some....defo worth you having a go...
I'm always nervous about warming tyres thoroughly before exploring 'bum twitching' lean angles. Was there advice from instructor about this issue? Thanks for vid by the way.
+Paul Robson Actually Paul, the briefing/advice at this particular track day wasn't that much cop - as far as tyres were concerned the only advice offered was "drop your pressures a bit"......I think most people that go on these days (given they are quite expensive) have an inkling about warming your tyres up...at least I like to think so! Good point though, thanks for stopping by - TMF
that's the only thing I hate about track days, the bloody stupid early starts!
+therealmrcheese Yeah me too - I'm not really a be anywhere by 7:30am sort of person - I put it down to the slightly testosterone fuelled macho thing that can go with these days, if you don't do stupidly early then you must be a poofter....(with chicken strips and unscathed knee sliders....like me)
Great no nonsense informative review
Thank you...
Nice video, mate. Haven't done a track day as of yet but I really want to. Just a question, are you not allowed your GoPro on your helmet?
+DrummerOnTwoWheels No, depends on the organisers as the use of cameras varies but I think helmet mounted is generally a no no...
Only just seen this great vid what an experience, would you say track days also adds or helps your general day to day riding ?
Thumbs up from me man. Great content!
Thank you!
Looks great, nice one!
+Cotti It was indeed - thanks :0)
What did you do from an insurance point of view?
Took out track day insurance - very expensive!
Great video - doing my first track day in a month on the street triple R, some great tips!
+Brendan Crowley Thanks Brendan, you'll love it - where are you going?
Grattan Raceway near Grand Rapids, Michigan over here in the states!
Have fun!
Great vid!!! :)
Track days over here (US), at least those in my area, have classroom sessions between track times. Is that something done there or is it riding only? There are also venues for other than sportbikes - tourers/adventure/supermoto.
+Jim Goddard Cheers Jim - we have both types here, this was just a pure track day, others have classroom time too but tend to be a bit more expensive (obviously)....
Thanks for the insight on what happens on a track day. Never went to one but would love to go someday. Did you have insurance?
Oh and didn't you change the bulbs in your Panigale to a white light?
Keep up the great videos! You are so relaxed and calm, it's just a joy watching your videos!
Thank you Ole - and yes I changed the lights after this video was made....
great video I am still debating taking my ducati 1199 out on a trackday.did you try the quick shifter out on the day?I tried mine the other day it's great but would be amazing on the track.
+Martin Brown Oh yes, boy did the DQS get a workout! Great gadget... :0) Thoroughly recommend you getting the 1199 out on track and giving it a go yourself, just don't bin it!
I noticed you have a carbon surround for your dash gauge. Ive been looking for one as well. Where did you get yours? It looks good!
Was just an E-Bay special - can't recall the exact seller now (sorry)!
Just looked it up - it was from "carbonfibrefever" on E-Bay....seems like good stuff...
awesome! thanks :D
I've been following your 899 uploads since I bought mine and I have found that you have asked and answered all the questions that goes with owning one. Being a lifelong motorcyclist, but unskilled 'big bike' rider, I had contemplated doing a track day. After watching this it had taken away the apprehension that I didn't know I had. Excellent Video/sDid you also contemplate whether to install engine/axle sliders?
Great - I'm glad to have ben of use! No I didn't install any protection for the bike, but for my next track day I have got myself some insurance...I may do a video on this in it's own right as that's a bit of a minefield too!
Great video TMF, well edited as usual :-)
+Renegade Thank you sir - much appreciated (and did take some doing on that one so I'm glad you noticed)....
Great that mate, did you take out extra track day insurance for the Panigale? My provider (MCE) say track days are covered but I would be sceptical to say the least.
+Lee McDonald No I didn't, I just kept my fingers crossed - but so many people have mentioned this now I'm starting to think in future I should do, would be a costly error if I binned my lovely Duke down the circuit :0( ....and I share you scepticism if your insurance premiums are reasonable! Thanks for the kind words - TMF
Great video once again. Found this really interesting as I have been thinking about doing one for years, see what my S1000RR was really designed for. Sadly never really had the bottle (don't want to throw the bike down the road) plus we only really have knockhill in Scotland so would have a bit of a journey to a decent track. Did you just ride the bikes there or did you stick them in a van or on a trailer? Good wee insight, keep the vids coming 👍
+dave80h ...well I think you should try it at least once, if you're that worried at some circuits you can even hire bikes! Donington is a fair distance from me (about 130ish miles) and we rode up the night before, did the track day, then rode home (via the pub).....all very civilised on such a lovely day weather wise...
One thing you didn't mention TMF, how much does it cost?
Depends. Always cheaper during the week. A Saturday at Mallory Park cost me £105 it's about £75 during the week.
+Boodieman72 Good point! ...hang on I'll look it up.... £145 for the No Limits track day on a Monday + £36 for a night at the Premier Inn just up the road, £20 supper, £15 lunch and about £30 for fuel.... :0)
Great vid , looks like a good way of getting to know both your own and your machines capabilities ,did you get your knee down ?
+Adrian Rigby ?......not enough, and anyway, i didn't have my knee sliders :0) ....and you are quite right, I'm no racer or track day addict, but I'm convinced taking your bike on one of these makes you a better rider overall (and does teach you your limits in a safe environment).....
+TheMissendenFlyer after watching this video which tells you what to expect I'm really thinking of doing a track to get know my bike and what i am capable as i need to build on my cornering!! Good video!!!!
+SGITA46 That was my intention - glad you found it of interest! Get yourself on a track day - will make you a better rider and you'll learn loads about you and the bikes abilities.....cheers for watching - TMF
well done TMF, you've certainly got the bike for the job, track days never really interested me, but I know they can be great fun, was this a Ron haslam track day?.
+Peter Gunton No Peter this was a "No Limits" one, although I know Ron Haslam now has his race school based up at Donington.....
on a more serious note, have you ever thought of investing in a neck brace?, particularly for track days and maybe for the off road days on the Honda?. I'm seriously looking at maybe the Latte they do one for track and one for adventure riding....serveral of my friends wouldn't go away without one on...just a thought
ride safe
+Black Hawk Yes those have crossed my mind - if you go for one let me know how you find it? I'm a bit loathe to get even more bulked up on the bike but I entirely see the logic.....
What tyres are you running? Look like Diablo Rosso's?
+Conor Norfolk Correct, the same as on my Street Triple, fabulous all rounders I reckon....
+TheMissendenFlyer Warm up quick enough on the road I take it? Torn between those and the supercorsas, keeping the heat in with supercorsas is my only concern, especially when autumn comes around!
+Conor Norfolk Yes, no problem with warming up on the road, never had an issue with them....
I'd love to take my action camera around Phillip Island...but they are banned, sadly.
+G B A that is a shame, at this event you weren't allowed a camera on your person or on the fuel tank (for some reason I don't quite get) - I mounted mine on the handlebars!
Excellent video 👍
Thanks
Watching your videos is turning out to be expensive :). Just ordered an R30 after seeing your review and now I am actively considering doing a track day on my gsxr 1000.
Wait til you get the insurance for the day - salty!!
I've been riding for eighteen months and am now looking around for my first track day. I have a BMW F800 GT, which is not at all a race bike, so I was wondering whether this machine would be suitable, or should I opt for the hiring of one of the event's bikes?
Thanks for the video, it was very helpful :)
Cheers!
Hi Matt, for sure you can take the BMW on track - I've seen all sorts out there....just don't go in the fast group or expect not to be overtaken! :0) You'll be fine on that.....
I'm so jealous! I would love to do a track day but don't think MT07 is quite the right bike for it...
You should go for it, as I said I did my first track day on the Street Triple, I've even seen BMW GS' on track days! No one cares what you bring (within reason).....You certainly won't be the fastest on track but you will have a great deal of fun and learn loads about your bike.....
TheMissendenFlyer would like to do a track day as part of my learning, but would a Bonnie (Street Cup) be too slow?
Totally enjoyed this mate. Pretty decent riding from your part. Well done sir!
+stephen spiteri Thank you Stephen, you've no need to say that but I'll take the compliment anyway :0)
:) Pretty anxious to see you having a go on an Aprilia Tuono factory next...
Great video. I was there on my zx6r track bike too. I'm reluctant to take my 899 on the track as I know, once I do, it'll end up getting converted and never used on the road again
+graeme hardie ...the 899 was designed to go fast, you HAVE to take it on the track! Thanks for watching and for the kind words - TMF
+TheMissendenFlyer I'm doing the Ducati test day at Silverstone next week, so that'll be it's maiden track voyage :) Then the Ducati only track days next month.
I feer I may have a ZX6R track bike for sale soon after
+graeme hardie I'm at the Ducati day at Silverstone on the 16th - come and say hi if you're there on the same day?
+TheMissendenFlyer will do
Beautiful editing as always. Thanks for your effort. Was curious if there were any non racing type bikes puttering around. "All" I have is a GS but would still like to try a track day on it. Panniers on or off, hmmmm.
+Gregory Beckner Thanks...there were a few nakeds and street type bikes, it wasn't all sport bikes. I saw several GS's on the track when I went to Snetterton and it was amazing how quick they were, I fancy taking mine on track one day, just for the LOLs like....go for it!
I have seen a few GS’s going around track, some of the them going around at quite a lick. Probably better without panniers.
Looks like great fun! A bit slow but that's understandable, I'd probably overestimate my abilities and crash xD
+InlineSix ...all I can say is it seemed quite fast enough at the time! (...and I would have hated to have scratched my baby!!)
very nice, lovely bike, I am going to take my first track day in brands hatch,
Enjoy....and be careful!
TheMissendenFlyer thanks
oh will will look through your channle later then as i like seeing other places that i cannot go with out a passport
bloody awesome stuff TMF,..plan on tryin my triple at some point,maybe a Cadwell track day up my way....BUT was thinking of doing the rental bike way first time up just till i find my feet! can i ask,about taking the go-pro's on the bikes,i know ive seen lots of track days with riders using cams but ive allways been under the impression they were not allowed?? i take it you just have to tether it all down properly,have it checked ect??!!
anyway....great stuff,..ride safe...bizz
+Bizz Thanks Bizz - the GoPro in this case wasn't allowed on your person/helmet or on the bike fuel tank, other than that, as long as secure, then no issue (they wouldn't let you out on track otherwise - I got stopped at Snetterton for having a camera on my head....hence no video of that day)....
Great video, would love a shot a Donnington! I notice all the bikes still had their mirrors on. When I registered for a track day here (USA) I had to have the bike safety inspected, mirrors and turn signals removed, headlight taped, antifreeze replaced with water. What prep did they have you do on the Duc to get her approved for the track?
+Chuck Skovira Hi Chuck, yes track days here do seem to vary and generally people do tape up lights, remove or tape up mirrors etc, this particular event was quite relaxed however (I'm glad to say)....only prep I did to the bike was reducing tyre pressure slightly and putting the exhaust baffles back in!
Here in the UK (at the time of writing Aug 2022) you can leave your mirrors on though it is recommended to turn them in; headlights/indicators do not need to be taped up; you do not need to change your coolant. In addition to what TMF has mentioned you now need a front brake guard and a full back protector. Noise levels in the UK can be strict and you get 1 warning to resolve before your bike has to be retired. If you have a leak get yourself off the racing line asap and notify the staff.
Wow I'm impressed. Don't think I would have the balls for that. Even though you had insurance, weren't you nervous about taking such a lovely bike on the track? I think I would buy an old Cbr for the track.
+Mister borntodrill To be honest I didn't think about the negative side too much - just thought "have sports bike, go on track" - you've got me worried for Silverstone now!! :0/
+TheMissendenFlyer I think The Barron buys cheap fairings for his track bikes. I wonder if you might get some eBay Chinese specials. BTW love the videos, I like the fact you are a normal bloke who doesn't feel the need to show off on a bike.
+TheMissendenFlyer Yes it's amazing how cheap you can pick up a set of knock-off fairings for these on E-Bay, may have to have a look into that. Primarily though I bought the 899 for road use, it's not a "track day bike" only to me so we'll see....
+Mister borntodrill Oh and I'm thrilled you think I am a "normal bloke" - my plan is working out a treat ;0)
+TheMissendenFlyer You seem like a decent bloke that would be a laugh down the pub. Some others on TH-cam come across a bit like erm...... plonkers! :)
Great
+Art Klimek Thank you...
I think the Softail would suck at that and the FJR possibly too heavy? I'd quite like to try it one day.
Does your road insurance cover for track and what happens if someone else slides their bike into yours and writes it off? I've heard it's just a hand shake and tough luck "That's Racing mate" kind of scenario.
+Hepcat Harley Yeah I think you're right - you'd have to check with your insurance company but I have a feeling many specifically exclude track days - you can get track day insurance...but mighty expensive...so you take your choice I guess!!! (scary biscuits eh!)
An unnerving choice...Novice among the inexperienced or Intermediates amongst the lairy...I just don't know :D
+Hepcat Harley Yeah exactly - best not to think about it too much eh!?
Take no notice, I'm always the pessimist and thinking...Now what's the worst that can happen today? ;)
+Hepcat Harley ...again, as a skier, light aircraft pilot and a motorcyclist, I find it best not to go down that line of thinking too much!!
Brave man!
+JLO Staff in what way?
+TheMissendenFlyer As I am rapidly approaching 60, seeing someone travel at over 100mph seems brave.....then there's the issue of dropping the bike! My bikes tend to get less use but more polish the older I get. But I still love owning them. It's an age thing so enjoy it like I did when I was younger!
+JLO Staff Understood - although to be fair 100mph on this bike seems like 60 on any other, the bike really is built for this sort of caper (well on the track anyway!).....
great content....looking to try my first one on an mt 09 after an upgrade of suspension
+max bull Thanks Max...and enjoy!
Great Video as always... Can you do a garage tour video one day?
+Drew Walker You're not the first to ask for that - would be a very short video I can assure you!! ;0)
Loved this, TMF! Any issues with your insurer at all knowing you do track days? Cheers. 🏍
No issues, I'm just not insured for them so have to take out additional insurance - this is what makes track days so darned expensive!
TheMissendenFlyer ok gotcha... looked like tremendous fun.
another sub from me :) really enyoy your vids keep it up!
+Gremlin 22 Thank you sir and welcome along!
Yep.Well spotted....!
Taken a few yrs ago now..Conningsby...
Lovely aeroplane and a frequent visitor to our home airfield at White Waltham...
MF What a great video, I have been watching you for a few months now, always quality, TVM, Paul
+Paul Batcheler Thank you Paul, appreciated....
looking at the small numbers I assume the speed is in miles ;-)
+Jayden Valentine Yeah, I changed it back just for the track session :0)
TMF....Another great vlog....but! had you been to a spiderman convention prior to doing this clip? :-)
+Black Hawk ..uh oh, my cover may have been compromised...
Ah I really need to get my Daytona on the track at least once this year!
+IgWannA2 Gotta be done!
Just like my hero Troy Baylis...........................................................almost! lol
+Neil Cole (Smoothound675) cheeky!
Did you get your knee down at any points? ;p
+oli2471 Nope, I'd left my knee sliders at home ;0)
+TheMissendenFlyer
Is this a one off.? It looks abit addictive.
+inquisitor 717 Well it was my second time and I have another booked at Silverstone, I'm trying not to get addicted, but I must admit I am really looking forward to it :0)
Are you in mph or kmh? Sweet bike BTW
MPH - and thanks....
will u ever think about do a tour on one of your bike someday
Yes, I have done lots, see >> th-cam.com/play/PL_719tkJvufaaJD8Yhv_-WfRXSFdKZw04.html
Do you need a one peice for the track
Depends on the track day - I've not yet been to one where you do...
Can you upload just raw footage of you going round the track ( and maybe a bit of music ) ?
+ETS2 Screenshots ...I seem to always get copyright strikes whenever I do anything with music....so probably not, sorry! Thanks for watching though, all the best - TMF
+TheMissendenFlyer have you thought of using the music by ncs ( non copyright sounds I think ) they have hundred of songs are completely free
+ETS2 Screenshots Yeah it's not quite as simple as that - you have to credit the pieces in a certain way - for example I paid for the music I use in the opening titles and bought a licence to use on You Tube - I have still had a YT enquiry into my use of it though!
+TheMissendenFlyer shame. No worries! I'll just listen to the sound of the bike!