Calling Andrew Tate cringe without even naming him by name and then moving on to the next subject like nothing. Truly an alpha move. The Click doesn't waste time on trash.
Woman on the internet: 'NO ONE knows my child exists!!!' The internet once this information is shared: 'Now wait a damn minute, something ain't right.'
A 3 or 4 month olds are incapable of being "naughty" in any way. They can't even crawl at that age. They are pretty much like newborn still. They don't cry to spite or annoy or protest. They cry because they need something or they hurt. If you manage to teach a 3-4m old to not cry, it's because profound psychological damage has been done.
Yeah. It makes me so upset to even imagine. It reminds me of the footage of abused toddlers that I saw in university. No smile, no crying, just apathy. And apparently some people think that is an ideal to strive for. Can you imagine, you used to live in this warm, dim place for nine months, where voices were muted and you just heard the steady rhythm of someone's body constantly. And suddenly you are thrust into a cold, harsh world and these people that you have known all your existence, the one constance through that incredible change, hurt you for asking for help! I can't imagine. To such babies the world must seem to be filled with monsters.
4 months old isn't even a toddler, children are still considered infants until 2 years old, this man is laying hands on an infant Edit: I'd just like to mention that sometimes infants and toddlers don't cry anyways and usually it's because they have a mental disability like autism, which I have and apparently I almost never cried
What could a 4 month old possibly do to warrant being "spanked"?... That's complete abuse and he may end up shaking that baby and giving it shaken baby syndrome. Also 4 months is an infant, not even a toddler yet.
@jan-Pala Shaken baby syndrome is a severe form of head injury caused by the baby's brain rebounding inside of the baby's skull when shaken. In this injury there is bruising of the brain, swelling, pressure, and bleeding, This can easily lead to permanent, severe brain damage or death.
"The baby cries every night. Hubby goes in with a belt to whoop it but it won't stop!" Of course not - it associates night-time in its crib as that time when a monster comes in and attacks him. They are literally training their baby to cry at night time, and then beating it for it.
@@lorireed8046 Sure, but I've known a lot of people over my years, and I wouldn't put this post beyond all of them. A *Lot* of people, even parents, let their emotions get away from them and they "anthropomorphise" their baby, thinking that the logic they use should be the logic it would use. It's the same mental failing as people who yell & scream at their dog to shut up when they're barking, not realizing that to the dog they just got a barking-buddy!
@Lori Read ah yes that’s what gen z is doing these days, lying about horrible abuse and pretending to be parents online with fake made up kids. That sure is fun, my fav thing to do every day!/sarcasm no but really, then people like you wonder “bUt WhY wOuLdnT tHe KiD sAy SoMeThInG aBoUt ThE aBuSe??” when parents do get caught. *because people don’t respect kids and believe them, IT IS NOT YOUR RIGHT TO JUDGE WHETHER SOMEONE IS LYING OR NOT ABOUT ABUSE* -A gen z kid that’s tired of not being treated like *an actual person*
@@lorireed8046 Yeah, some may be but I can attest to the fact that abuse like this isn’t as rare as most would like it to be. My father used to choke me as a baby when I would not stop crying. My mother told me when I was in my teens..and well knowing my turbulent father. Well, it’s not very surprising, just saddening and disgusting.
@@lorireed8046I have personally known people who have beaten kids to try and get them to stop crying. These stories do not surprise me in the slightest
Three-year-old me: *draws in predominantly dark, sombre colours* Kindergarten psychologist: *draws my mother's attention to this, explaining that it means high levels of stress, anxiety and possibly depression* Mother: *yells at me at home for shaming her like that and being ungrateful, throws away all dark-coloured pencils, crayons and paints, punishes me if I mix dark hues from other colours* Also mother: "Why won't you visit, why won't you ever let your kids stay with me?"
@@ines1084 she doesn't even comprehend that she did something wrong. That's narcissists for you. You can only learn to recognise the behaviour and keep your distance from such people
@@KenikoBfor real. It is awesome she works hard to provide a healthy balanced diet for her kid. That is good parenting. But freaking out if they have any amount of junk food on a rare occasion is not caring for your child, it is being controlling. It does them no good and they will resent you for it.
@@sassyviking6003 definitely. Being healthy is part of life, but so is being happy, and having some less healthy foods occasionally is not going to kill you and is going to make you feel good
@@KenikoB There isn't really such a thing as "unhealthy food". It's just a matter of balancing your intake of said foods. But other than that technicality, I agree- a treat here and there is absolutely part of maintaining a person's overall wellness.
"do as i preach not as i do" is literally every facebook mom's slogan who neglects and treats their kids like garbage and acts like she is the mom of the year on her facebook
never really understood that saying either, if you know you are doing something wrong why not change and do it right? also, if you say how to do something and then do it differently doesnt teach anyone how to do it correctly...
@@BobOrKlaus Because change takes effort. And also to actually change would be to admit that they were doing something wrong, and these people are NEVER wrong.
@@-Devy- Oh they will say they are wrong, but then you're supposed to forgive them for "a few mistakes" because "they tried their best". Hmm hmm, their best ey. I'm just glad I'm not around for the worst.
Or parents who say: „I was beaten black and blue when I was young, you don’t have it hard!!!!“ -> proceeds to lecture who for an hour and then give you 10 „whoopins“ with a belt and wants a hug afterwards even though she also regularly humiliates you about your body, fashion, choices in intrests (wether hobby, love or career)….. am I missing smth? Oh and denies it also with “I don’t remember that that way!” And also “you have been the way you are since you were born although i have been nothing but awesome….” 🙄🤬😒 yeah frick those people. Ps.: if you are offended by this (possibly because it sounds familiar in a negative way) pls do not procreate. 🥲
Spanking a 4 month old IS abuse. If it doesn't stop ASAP it may change how the poor kid thinks of love and bonding, and what level of violence is appropriate to use on others casually. I would like to mention here- my Dad and all his siblings were spanked as kids. Even worse, their mother actively beat them, choosing objects based on how much pain she thought they would inflict. That kind of thing is linked to mental illness in adults, and indeed, he now has PTSD, one of his sisters is emotionally unstable, and one of their brothers will likely (hopefully) be in prison for life. Don't spank your kids, people.
I've been spanked and I turned out fine... Ha! That's what I thought as a teen, because you rationalize and idealise your parents' actions! Now I realise how many of my problems, some of which I still struggle with to this day (a deep need to please people, avoiding responsibility for my actions, excessive apologizing, fears of authority figures and so on) stem from this horrible practice! My kids will never be spanked. I will never intentionally hurt my kids. But even worse! Who spanks a baby of 4 months?! That's almost a newborn! They are only just beginning to be aware of their hands, what are they expecting them to learn?
calling regular spankings “tough love” is how you get someone who emotionally and physically abuses their partner, since they were raised believing that emotional and physical abuse was the best way to show love
Definitely not a toddler like click erroneously refer to as. A 4 month old certainly ain't standing up right or even toddling for that matter, they don't even aware of their own body.
Oh wow!😃 Hope the kid doesn't have to deal w/ that. I don't know much abt eating disorders but ik that there are two one, you eat a lot and then throw it up if I am correct and the other, eating too less. In a book series I've read a character had an eating disorder and he had to go to a psych ward or mental hospital to help him heal. I could be off but ik that eating disorders are not fun and not a joke. Sorry if I got something wrong, and if I shouldn't have said this, me being in high school. I just thought I could show my understanding that an E.D. is not okay especially if a family member caused it.
@@CharleighBarton there are many more. Like there's one where you binge but don't vomit. But there's also one where you're obsessed with like eating healthy. Counting everything. It's a huge spectrum and I'm not joking at all, I know ppl who've developed a very unhealthy relationship with food because of situations like that story.
@@matildajaakkonen8248 Oh, sorry. Maybe I shouldn't have said anything. Ik ur not joking but I just thought maybe I could show my understanding as a high school student. I'm sorry
Fun fact: being forced into eating a type of food in your childhood makes you less likely to choose to eat that food later in life, while not being allowed to eat something will only make you crave it.
Wow it's as if strict parenting only teaches kids to lie and keep secrets, as well as guaranteeing the parents to live alone old and bitter. Whoda thunk it!
I had a friend who was abused into eating rice, as a kid, by her aunt. She now has an indirect allergy to rice. Like, anything with the texture of rice. Rice paper is OK and so it Rice Kristin's. It is specifically the texture of rice. Rice is literally a trigger for her, and her body will actively reject it because of trauma.
@@maxbaker7841 My mum used to force me to eat PLAIN rice on its own with no sauce sometimes... or sauce that did not go with rice. Not because she was abusive she just couldn't cook most things very well! I can't stand rice unless its from a Chinese restaurant.
Yep, reason my parents would ask me if I liked the food I was eating, and if not, would make me something else. Reason I now crave healthy foods, and enjoy cooking.
The father abusing his 4 month old Baby as means to "discipline" him is disgusting beyond words. My daughter is just shy of 4 months, seeing her even in mild discomfort makes my Heart bleed, I can't fathom how someone would think they're fit to be disciplined in any way, let alone physically. Most Babies that age can't even roll around yet, they're completely dependent on their caregivers to show them how the world works - in an understanding, empathetic manner.
Friendly reminder: corporal punishment is not physical discipline. Instilling physical disciple is teaching and reminding your child of self care tasks, such as hygiene and encouraging physical activity. Discipline is a healthy survival mechanism, not a means of punishment. Routine Acceptance Consistency Encouragement Concentration Accountability Responsibility These are the principles which drive a disciplined, healthy child's development.
@@audreydoyle5268how did you come up with this definition? It's simply not the way the term is used. Besides they said "discipline" in quotes. A four month old does not need any version of physical discipline.
@@audreydoyle5268 he’s four months old, he can’t even move and he’s completely dependent on his parents and he’s instilling fear of men into this little boys brain.
I just saw this now, and I am shaking with rage. WTF. You hit a 4 month old baby? Just one more proof that there needs to be a requirement for a license to become a parent. Reminds me of the story my sister, who is a physical therapist, told me. They brought a 5 month old into the practice because the father shook her too hard. This girl had brain and spine damage.
The thing that concerns me about the ramen mom isn't even her attitude about food but the fact she thinks her kids are actively working against her. The boy isn't eating ramen in order to just mock his mother. Your children are not the enemy.
Kids often crave what they aren't allowed to have. In fact, whatever you want but can't have as a kid is what you are going to CRAVE as an adult. I'm still addicted to food, I just can't resist eating what I want when I want even if it wrecks my finances. Why? Because I had health issues as a kid so I couldn't eat on and off for an entire year. Because Mom sometimes bought certain things I didn't like and I was never offered an alternative, so I just couldn't eat, or had to make a meal out of side dishes, or ate the bare minimum and went to bed, and often when she made things I did like she wanted to save leftovers so I couldn't eat until I was full. I'm not saying I never got to eat food I liked until I was full, but it was rare enough that I never got tired of it and food is still my major weakness.
Yeah, I freaking HATE it when parents take rejecting their choices “personally”. There is not a single human being on this planet that enjoys being told what to do with their life
Word of the wise: Don't mess with a kid's relationship to food. Without all the trauma dumping, with my mom and stepdad I was constantly in trouble for things. Mostly not doing my homework and lying about it being done (I have learning disabilities and had challenges but I couldn't even ask for help. I'd get in trouble one way or the other.) One of the ways they punished me was feeding me food they knew I hated. It doesn't sound bad on the surface, but you try being fed stuff that didn't taste good and most of the time not really knowing what it is. And intentionally being isolated and excluded when they went out to eat. I developed a not very healthy relationship to food and I still don't really like eating what I want to in front of others. I snuck food to avoid having to eat what was provided. Those meals were nutritious too, but they were also calibrated as a punishment. Screwing with someone in regards to food is inadvisable in my humble opinion, having known people with eating disorders and as someone who's very guarded about what I eat in front of others and still buy my own unhealthy shit to eat away from prying eyes. It's not healthy. I left out most of the specifics but that's the gist of it.
PERFECT SOLUTION, for the 13 y/o boy that brought forbidden Ramen into her "healthy only" house... teach the kid how to add good things _to_ that ramen, like an egg or some veggies. You know, _just incase_ you're not around to pay for his food all the time. If you stfu & _teach_ him, he'll know how to cook & clean up after himself. It's kinda _your whole job_ to ready him for the real world. IF you as a parent NEVER, _EVER_ allow junk food, whenever your kid does inevitably get their hands on some they'll over indulge on it to the point of making themselves sick. I've had 4 y/o's at my child's BD party & they ate the sugary foods as if they were rabid for it. It's sad & a little scary. 2 handfuls of sweets, running off & _hiding_ to eat it. Than, choking on it because they thought they had to do it fast before they got caught with it! Still remember thinking, "What a nightmare, that poor baby was living in." This type of shit can cause some serious ED in order children that sick around into adulthood too. Be careful what you do as a parent to your children... it _really_ matters! Balance is _everything!_
6:15 that's not borderline slave labor, this is *literally* slave labor: - She doesn't get paid for the work she does - She doesn't get a say in the informal "work contract" (quote: "this is non-negotiable") - She may be legally allowed to leave and start her own life, but good luck finding a home with no job and no money! I'm 100% sure their parents have already taken all her money, leaving her with no (safe) way to escape. They do effectively _own_ her!
Also it's illegal to impose rent unless both parties consent to rent, that is also why you should never offer to pay rent even if it's only a couple cents, once a rent agreement of any kind is made it's a lot easier to increase it
@@lawrencelopez9839 There are lawyers who take those cases for a certain %/amount of the money paid in the event a near-certain case like these are won.
Yeah, that's a baby. Kinda implies the guy is hitting and screaming at a baby for crying or pooping itself, which is about all they can do at that point.
@@sarahchicago I have 5 little siblings so I somewhat know what happens (most of the time) at times in a baby's life And most babies can't have honey(by itself) till one This baby got beat before tasting pure honey
That one mom pushing down her child who was trying to walk is like a metaphor for this whole sub - when their children try to assert any kind of independence, it’s pushed down in favour of the parent’s desires.
I'm a millennial so I grew up getting spanked by a parent who hated doing it, but thought it was necessary for me not to grow up spoiled rotten (because that's what his parents taught him). here's what we realized after I was grown: 1. if they're not old enough to reason that they've done something wrong, they're not old enough for a spanking. 2. if they are old enough to reason that they've done something wrong, they are old enough to be sat down and talked about why they shouldn't do it. so they're too old for a spanking. (and as for kids who can't be reasoned with: no amount of spanking will cure a child with ASPD, oppositional defiant disorder, etc -- it's just going to make their behavior worse.) therefore, there is no appropriate age for a parent to spank a child. spanking is just teaching them to be afraid of you/consequences. don't keep that cycle going. back to the funny stuff!
The only real long-term correlation is that it makes people more likely to be willing to accept violence against other people, including their own children. It's not universal (people are quite able to look at the experience and use it as more motivation to reject violence and break the cycle), but yeah. What does work is your #2 -- especially in the context of a general "learn to think about how what you do will make other people feel" approach, which is something that children are quite capable of understanding.
All these years later, I don’t remember what I had been spanked for, even though it only happened a couple times. What I do remember is the panic of being chased by a trusted authority figure who I believed loved me, knowing I couldn’t do anything about it. That’s a lot of cognitive dissonance for a young child.
If I got spanked it was because I was "bothering" my dad by coming to him when my brother was bullying me. It pretty much just taught me that no matter what, the men are allowed to do whatever they want, and I can't trust them to support me.
My aunt spanked me. My aunt ran a day care and I was with her all day while my single mother worked all the time. She was in her early 20’s at the time so I don’t blame her as much. But now I’m constantly expecting that someone will like spank me or more like hit me when I do something wrong. But also she used to like rip my teeth baby teeth out the second it was loose so it’s not that shocking
Having sex in the same bed or same room your child is in it's really problematic, in my country you can go to jail because that classifies as sexual harassment and it really is, teaching your kid to sleep in another room is easier than making them pretend they're asleep every time you have "adult" time and yes, they're not asleep, they're pretending and they pretend to wake up when they get enough of your shit
My mom used to tell a story that was her favorite from when I was several months old. It was a story about how neglectful she was of her daughter. Apparently, she would sleep until 12 pm and I didn't cry or make any noise. I would have a full diaper but never once interrupted her sleep. I have other horror stories like the time she went to answer the phone, leaving me alone in a kitchen sink filled with water and soap. She said I had disappeared and she thought I had drowned, only to find my tiny hand holding onto the faucet and my baby cheeks puffed out because I was holding my breath. Yeah, there are some horrible parents out there.
Yeah there's a few "funny" family stories that get told concerning myself. All because my mum wouldn't let me wake her up in a morning (or dad, when they were together) so I was regularly unattended for 3-5+ hours every morning The one that always gets me most is the one that happened when I was about 5, and its the time I was sick in the car after a breakfast of chocolate and cookies. Ofc it's always "haha remember that one time he ate all that chocolate?". I hate when this gets told as a funny story these days, because the reason why I used to eat chocolate and biscuits for breakfast nost days (or honestly, possibly every day) is because, upon waking up at 5-6am every day, I was very hungry, understandable considering I'd probably had my tea the night before over 12 hours prior, but I wasn't allowed to ask mum for breakfast until at least 9-10am, and I couldn't make cereal by myself. So I'd climb on the worktop and get into the chocolate cupboard, because nobody wants to sit with hunger pains for 4 hours...
"I have no memory of you kids growing up" that's an absent or substance addicted parent. Absolutely abusive either way, and bo child was at fault for a parent like that.
@@imshinycaptain yes, but when you are a parent, even with severe depression you would still most likely remember your kids growing up, even if it is a bit spotty or blurry, unless you were still absent or neglectful even unintentionally. Unintentional child neglect is still child abuse, just unintentionally, which is very sad both for the parent and child. Cases like that are one reason why there is a push in social work to treat the whole family and not just remove the child from a situation every time. If you can get the support for the depressed parent, then they can be able to be a better caretaker to both their child and themselves.
My mother and her siblings got beaten up a lot in their childhood. When one of them did something wrong, all other siblings got punished as a collective too. My brother and I never got hit while we grew up, but my mom struggled quite a lot while she was raising two kids practically alone before she got a divorce. We weren't poor, but my mom did her best so my brother and I would never have to experience the same things that she had to experience like having to watch their father eat an entire family pizza alone. She screamed at my brother and me a few times when she was at her wits end thanks to her trauma, but she always apologized afterwards and talked to us to clear things up.
@@taviebrown2271An adult relative used to yell at me frequently because he never learned to control his anger growing up. He worked hard for years to fix it, and now we have a great relationship
yes, kudos to your mom. She did not chose to be abused and traumatized but chose to make the effort to do better. This is a big thing. It's not called "generational trauma" for no reason. As she had no healthy model to copy, she must have put a big effort on learning about ways to do better. And apologizing. Absolutely. No parent (or just anyone)bcan allways be perfect. And since kids are asked to apologize so often, how be a better model for them than be an accountable adult oneself.
‘No man would lay hands on a toddler.’ Needed to hear this, sometimes I regret cutting off my parents but things like this remind me I made the right choice.
Yeah was beat as long as I can remember and watched my baby siblings get hit too. It sucks though cutting them off, cause there’s no replacements. Well it is what it is I suppose, working towards getting the help I need and becoming the person I want to be. Edit: Cutting off my parents
@@ConstantChaos1 spanking isn't child abuse when done properly at an older age. Not all kids need it, and that's fine. It should be avoided when possible, but some kids need it. I certainly did, but my parents never spanked me unless necessary. I can literally count on one hand how many times it happened. When I did something wrong, my parents always explained to me why what I did was wrong and I wasn't to do it again or I would face consequences. If I did it again, they would tell me 'no tv and sweets for a week.' If I did something I *knew* was VERY wrong, then they spanked me. But not before explaining that they love me, but I keep choosing not to listen to them even after warnings. And it was very short and not very painful. Yeah, it hurts some, but what hurt more was disobeying my parents and suffering the consequences. I wasn't beaten, it was only about 3 wacks on my backside. Even afterwards, they'd let me nap and I'd eat dinner with them. Then at night, they came in and hugged me and reassured me that they loved me, then we'd say a prayer. And I always felt loved. I never felt scared or threatened. They taught me to fear the consequences rather than fear them. And I'm glad they did it, I was a stubborn and mouthy kid who needed it occasionally. Spankings aren't abuse when they're short, are the last resort, and the child knows why they're being disciplined. Like I said, not every kid needs it. I applaud those who try gentle parenting. But some kids do need it at a certain age group. After a certain age, my parents no longer spanked me because it wasn't an effective way to discipline me. Instead I had restrictions and had to write 'I will not disrespect my parents' or something like that about 100 times. When I cried, I didn't cry because it was too much, I cried because it was something that I didn't want to have to do. But that got the point across to me. Discipline, when done properly, is not abuse.
@@winniethepooht5776 imma stop you right there, spanking is child abuse, as a first responder i am trained on what is and is not child abuse and striking your child is child abuse. Stop defending reprehensible behavior and go to therapy. Find a new hobby instead of abusing children
How the hell is this behaviour toward babies tolerated by anyone? My dad was always so gentle and caring. Once when my sister was less than 1, had a pretty serious illness and was refusing to to take her medicine while simultaneously not being able to breath, my dad panicked and force fed her the medicine. She was shit scared of my dad for an entire year after that. My mom & dad had to help her build trust with the help of a therapist. Babies absolutely get emotional scars and its worse because they won’t remember what caused it, just the sheer feeling of terror & lack of safety 🤦🏻♀️
This. Nowhere near the same thing, but my little sister couldn't stand bananas for about 2-3 years, because one time as a baby (under 12 months) she was violently sick a little while after eating one. Next time we tried to give her some she completely refused and yeah, carried on refusing for her whole toddlerhood
@@ryan-anarchist-2535 Right! Babies are tiny recording machines. Just because they don't know how to express themselves yet doesn't mean they don't feel stuff going on & don't get affected by it.
In English, a toddler is a child old enough to walk unassisted, typically 2-3 years of age. A four-month-old baby (or even a baby one year old) is an *infant*. Thanks for another great video!
To go along with Click's note about mental illness: I suffered from terrible mental health issues in the past. I was a horrifically manipulative and emotionally abusive person, and I really hurt the people I cared about. There is nothing that can justify the way I treated them. And I had no idea that what I was doing was wrong. The only thing that made me realize that I was the problem and needed to change was them outright leaving me. It is NOT your responsibility to stay with someone if they are treating you badly. You SHOULD get out. There is absolutely no circumstance in which it is appropriate for anyone to hurt you in any way at all. They are not going to change as long as you stay with them. You cannot change them. You cannot hope that things will get better. The only thing you can do is _get away from them_ and hope that will be enough to make them realize that losing you was their fault. _You_ and _your_ mental health are more important than they could ever be. EDIT: _Never_ listen to people who say there might be hope. You are not the exception. Your relationship will not get better if you work hard enough to save it. Your abuser will prey on your hope and use it to dig in deeper and destroy your sense of what you think you deserve. Once more, _you_ are the only person that matters in your situation. If your partner, parent or friend consistently makes you feel bad, leave. _Period._
I have a worthless piece of gatbage brother who literally is the worst of them all in my family, I can't move out yet and I slowly lose my mind time by time, but my mom always tells me to love and respect him simply because *He's my brother*. i want them to understand that I can't hold on for any longer and I honestly just want to leave before something worst happens in my household.
@@Nekaiii You come first. No one _deserves_ respect or love. They need to be worthy of it. And only you get to decide who is worthy of your love. If you can hold out long enough to move away, then you will be able to cut off the people who have hurt you. _You_ and _your_ health and wellbeing are more important than they are.
I know I'm just a stranger on the internet, but I'm proud of you for changing and realizing your mistakes. I'm sure a lot of people in the same situation would still blame everyone else and never take responsibility. Things like this restore my faith in humanity, so to speak. I need to change too but not in the same you did. Life is much too complicated for me and I can't properly deal. 😅 So I can't imagine how hard it must've been for you to change like this.
@@AnimeRayanne It took so, so, so much work to get here. Medication helped beyond what words can describe, but I also had to learn to recognize when I am at fault and when I should give up control. I had to relearn how to communicate, and that was definitely the hardest part. I was so used to using manipulative language to get what I wanted because something in my head told me that was the only way. I had to learn how to choose better words. I still struggle sometimes, since I have trouble speaking my mind directly and that comes out as passive aggression. Nowadays, my thoughts are kinder and my actions are much less selfish. I am a better and happier person. Everything, _everything_ is better than it used to be. And what seems to be a reward for that hard work, I managed to reconnect with an old friend from before things went bad. He is now my closest friend and my favorite person in the world, and our friendship is the healthiest one I have ever had. He trusts me because I have become trustworthy. He makes me a better person now because I made me a better person first. It was the hardest thing I ever did to see what was wrong with me and do what I had to to get better, but it was so, so worth it. I do truly believe people can change, but only if _they_ choose to.
I remember my mom giving me an hour long lecture about how junk food causes cancer when she found out my friend was sharing Cheez-Itz with me at school (I was 14). I'm now in my late 20s and Cheez-Itz are still one of my favorite snacks. The rebellion makes them taste better.
It depends on the people involved. The biggest fights among my friends have been people reading tones into text that were not there and getting upset about it. I had to have literal communication lectures with them and tell them that they need to start talking in person if they can't treat written words neutrally, or think they don't articulate themselves well in writing. Guess what happened? Less fighting. If you're ever been wary regarding someone who is refusing to use messages but you do decide to go through with it, meet them somewhere public and record it on your phone to have evidence and witnesses. I've done that too. Stay safe.
It's easy for things such as tone to get miscommunicated in text form. Plus in person or over the phone you get additional non verbal cues that can help in understanding people and thus resolving a conflict.
I had to do this with my ex husband. He would later deny things he said in person or say he told me things that he didn't. Text or email only. A lot less abuse and fighting after we changed that.
14:29 No Click, she said 4 months. That’s not a toddler, that’s just after newborn. This man has been hitting pretty much a newborn baby. He might not plan to, but the force could’ve broken a bone, and screaming in an ear (which literally isn’t discipline by any stretch of the imagination) can cause permanent hearing loss. This isn’t a “is a father disciplining too harshly?”, he’s abusing their infant.
The money thing really bugs me. When i was younger, my parents needed to borrow money from me and my sibling to buy a car for the family. They made us little "credit checks" and made sure to pay us everything back as soon as they had the money.
Same. We would help pay for groceries when things got super tough but we were always paid back, usually with a little extra. When I moved out with my own bills they stopped doing it, but I still offer to help out when I am able. That trust and respect they built with their kids has gone a long way Edit: We were fortunate that my parents always could afford to repay. That's not the case for everyone--e.g. as a teenager my mom had to help support the family. That's not necessarily abusive as long as it is discussed openly and the parent(s) are doing their best to minimize how much work the teen has to do. It's fucked up on the societal level, tho.
Same, except I rarely got the money back. We weren’t even making too little money my mother just isn’t able to manage her finances. On the other hand I just paid one of my dad’s bills because I have online banking and he doesn’t. I got that money back not even two days later.
Here is a tip for any parents who have screaming kids. Use earplugs while you calm them, it lowers the stress that can make you feel frustrated. Then talk with a soft voice back to them. And it allows you to keep your baby close to your body/face. PS Just don’t go to bed with them, you need to hear them.
That's actually really good advice. It is easy enough to say to keep your voice calm and quiet, when you aren't getting screamed at in an emotional situation, but difficult in practice. I think I will buy earplugs for the next time my cat throws a tantrum 😅
This is a really good advice bruv. I'd do this when dealing with my little sister (I'm 15) because I am sensitive to sound (likely have sensorial issues due to anxiety disorder), but my parents yell at me for trying to block out sounds :/
@@moonoftheblood ohh, I feel you. Well you’re not just blocking sound, you’re staying calmer. Found some research papers on the subject. You could go googling for that and show they. Not sure they understand you anyway though. But good on you for helping out, and soon your sister is older and hopefully less of a noise maker. Wish you the best.
4 months isn't even a toddler. A 4 month old has just learned to hold their head up, and is learning to roll over. They're barely discovering that they're able to control their own hands.
The scary and sad thing is that those parent who smashes the kid's phone and someone gives them an emergency phone is something alarming. I've heard stories about a person who are hella concerned on kids that they secretly give them a phone. Then in some occasion the parent finds that phone and breaks it. Those parents need to be checked up on tbh since breaking phones which is used for emergency and everyday use is a wtf and red flag moment.
Breaking anything as a way to react to disobedience will only ever teach the child to accept toxicity from others. I swear you should have to get a licence to have kids
@@jacob-rt8hv not only! For a limited time, you can also get many more side affects! Such as... PTSD, Trauma, Self harm, Lying (for safety), Depression, Anxiety, And many more! Call now, and get all this for just one broken phone and $1.99! What a steal! (Seriously, what is these peoples motives?? Like, why the hell??)
I bought my little a brother a cell phone - I wanted him to be able to contact me directly at any time and I warned her that if there was a concern she could let ME know, but not take it away.
Yeah. No matter what taking my kids phone is not an option. I work nights and they need access to a phone for multiple reasons. Also no matter where they are I like being able to get a hold of them when I need to and vice versa. Also why they are allowed to take phones to school. They have to be respectful at school, dont get me wrong.
My son is 4 months old next week. I can’t imagine what that child could even be doing to “get in trouble.” 4 month olds can barely even sit up by themselves. Wtf my guy?!?!
I remember a time when I was a cashier at a grocery store, a parent came in my line with a baby in the cart. The baby kept reaching for the bright and colorful candy, and instead of just pushing the cart a few feet forward so the baby couldn't reach it, she kept slapping its hand away. Bizarre.
As for that last mom... ma'am, if you're too busy for your child to start walking, you're too busy to have a child. Time to start looking into options for getting her adopted before you do more damage
I really appreciate when this subreddit is covered, as it helps me put into perspective that my parents were, indeed, insane; my childhood was NOT normal; and that it's perfectly reasonable that I was diagnosed with PTSD, anxiety, trust, and attachment issues in middle school. My parents (mostly my mum) raised me telling me that mental illness was either a choice, or brought on by extreme traumas which did they adopted me at 13 months old, they know full well I didn't go through anything traumatic enough to kick off a mental illness. My mum would also say, "You don't need to see a therapist because therapists only teach you to hate your mother." She also told me not to talk to anyone about my brother, one of two of her own biological sons which was nine years older than me, having sex with me when I was five years old, because, "It'll ruin the reputation of this family." She absolutely refused to talk to her kids about sex, and anything that could be even vaguely associated with sex was harshly punished, and then she was surprised when I ended up being asexual ("It's just a phase- you'll want a baby someday" - I am in my mid 30s, and DO NOT and never did want children), and she would frequently gripe that I was doing her a disservice my not turning her into a grandmother. My Christmas present of 2017 was being "freed from the family" as she told me I wasn't her child because she wouldn't raise a child to turn out like I did. I stopped talking to her after that, and for months afterward she was dropping me voice and emails saying that she was soooo worried about me and NEEDED to hear from me that I'm alright. I am honestly quite happy to be done with that family, any these days spend my time rescuing and rehabilitating roosters that I get to cuddle every day, and honestly they give me more unconditional love and support than that family ever did. I am happy being a crazy chicken man living in the woods. Happier than I ever was under my childhood roof.
@@scamperpamper6372 Thank you for your kind words. I think it's important to keep in mind that a different life is always a possibility; Lord knows it didn't always feel like it for me. Best of luck going forward- I hope your new life is able to take root sooner than later.
The post about the Woman destroying her Daughters phone is just upsetting. There should some sort of legal system to work against this. It should not be allowed for parents to destroy their childrens stuff just because "they want to teach them a lesson". That is not teaching, that is socially unacceptable behavior.
There is. These cases are 100% punishable under property damage laws! Whether the parents bought the items and gave them to their kids (gift), or the kids purchased them with their own pocket money, the kid is the rightful owner of the item either way and the parents have no right to destroy them. Problem isn't the law, it's the fact that it's very risky to sue people you're dependent on. That's a tremendously difficult step to take even for adults (eg suing their own employer), so it's practically impossible for kids.
It's so petty that she broke something for not being able to keep on being controlling of her and able to see EVERYTHING that she has on her phone. Privacy/respect is zero for her daughter, as my respect for that mom is.
My oldest biological niece was convinced she was an adult from the age of 5yo. She was given a mobile phone when she started high school, so she could contact her parents for the ride home from school. Her phone was rightfully monitored from ages 12 to 15, because she was constantly posting sexy posed pictures and accepting friend requests from much older men who were creeping on her. It took her a long time to understand how inappropriate it was.
As someone who was not given a birth certificate despite being born in a hospital in the United States, I can tell you any parent who does this just abused their child if they are in the US. Getting one after the fact (and after I turned 18) was very difficult, and the parent who demanded I not have one was highly controlling and manipulative. He would have held me down the rest of my life if I had allowed it, and I was nearly brainwashed enough to do so.
Can I ask something? How does everything work when you don't have it? Can you get passport and/or other documents? I wouldn't be able to get my first ID if didn't bring my birth certificate in the country where I'm from...
How can a parent actually refuse a birth certificate after giving birth in a hospital. I would imagine the hospital would make up some kind of birth certificate to even just be able to say who the patients, mother and child, were that they treated. If the child was never recorded to have been born then it must have been so hard to even do the billing for it, wouldn't it?
My bio-mom nearly did this to me and my siblings. It's one of the FEW things she didn't inflict on us, and I'm grateful that out of all the therapy and issues I've had to deal with, I didn't also have to fight to get a birth cert. or SSN.
As a kid, my mom would borrow the money I'd get for my birthday or other gifts. Then when I'd ask for it back she'd just throw in my face everything she had given me (a roof over my head, food, clothes, etc) So I learned to hide the money and always tell her I was broke, or try and spend it as soon as I could.
My mom would hire me out as a babysitter, or to help neighbors, & then take the money, to "keep it safe." She would also somehow manage to buy school clothes & special occasion outfits in her size instead of mine, and then make a big show of "whoops! I guess I'll just have to get you something else," which of course never happened. Once I had a full time job, she would empty my wallet on a regular basis. The first time she pulled that was just before Christmas, & I found out about it while out shopping for gifts.
This one time I got beaten because she wanted to use the money my grandparents gave to me for my birthday but I had lost it (it was one bill, to this day I have no idea what happened to it). Pretty sure I put all the hair that I lost that day in a box, half as a reminder to myself to get tf out, half because I hoped to rub it in her face some day. Never got to but I'm out so whatever lol
The funny thing about the kid waking up during fun times story is that the kid apparently said "stop it guys" which implies they were annoyed about it so probably awake for awhile and the fact they said stop it instead of asking what they were doing or something like that probably means they know what's going on.
Then you grow up and realize that story was written by a kid and Reddit is toxic. Things that didn't happen. Like those cringe stupid text kids used to pretend we're from their parents or from a girlfriend/boyfriend/spouse.... Y'all are beyond gullible.
Also how old is this kid if they're already speaking and whatnot? Idk. Cosleeping at that age, especially when the parents obviously want to have ALONE time, seems fucked up
You're probably right tbh, considering how young they are I doubt they actually comprehend how messed up the situation is, but oh boy, if they remember this (which I hope they don't) that's gonna be one hell of a realization. Plus co-sleeping every night at that age seems real weird to me even without that gross shit like seriously, literally and metaphorically GET A ROOM
Parents who yell at their kids for crying when they are getting yelled at are so weird. Like the kid crying is like the purest sign of guilt you can get out of a kid, was that not the intended outcome? YOU'VE WON! What are they supposed to do? Say "yes mother, I understand" stone faced? Just ignore you? just bury down deep to explode 10 years later? (Actually that one probably) it's happened to me when I was younger and I don't remember what I did any time it happened, just that my remorse was thrown back at me like it was even worse than whatever I had done
Also baby probably has hearing damage if he repeatedly screamed in their ear. So much about "no damage"! It's really idiotic she thinks or tells herself her husband's abuse of the baby would do no damage, because baby won't remember it. As if babies were too young to receive emotional damage and didn't need to be protected from pain and fear, hell no! Babies are at the most vulnerable stage of their entire life, they need more protection than anyone else! What she needs to do to teach him that spanking babies is wrong is to call CPS on him, go to a women's shelter and file a divorce ASAP!
My mom can vividly describe memories she had in the hospital as an infant! Trauma absolutely stays with you forever, there is no being to young to experience it.
@@LRM12o8 Unfortunately abuse in infancy is quite likely to be one of the triggers of psychopathy in adulthood. As vital parts of the brain develop improperly as a result of the abuse.
Fun fact controlling parents: if your kid payed for their cellphone you taking it is illegal because that's property theft. And snooping on it once they turn 18 is illegal because that's invasion of privacy on a personal device. Ps: destroying something they bought is also illegal because that's destruction of property
Kind of. Parents have a right to temporarily confiscate devices/toys of their children as a punishment for bad behavior, but they don't have a right to permanently take it away (theft) or destroy it (property damage). Also, it doesn't matter whether the kids bought it with their own money or the parents bought it and gave it to them. The latter case is legally treated as a gift and obvs you don't have any ownership privileges on things after you gifted them to someone else. Invasion of privacy of minors is also something that a ton of states promised to protect children against by signing the UN Declaration of Children's Rights, but I don't know if there's actually any laws against that anywhere.
@@mylife-23 again, shouldn't make a difference legally whether they bought it with their own money or it was given to them by their parents. It's the child's rightful property either way.
Well, if something is given as a gift, you can't just claim it back if you feel so. Shoudln't that apply also to the items parents give to their children? I can differ for example if the kid gets a TV to use in their room. That would be a family property, but is given for them to use. But a phone is very personal item. A gaming console can be bought for the whole family to use, but if it is gifted to the child, then it should be theirs. I can understand if the use is limited, as kids can get carried away. But not taking completely away something that belongs to them.
My narcissistic mother tried that with me after months of no contact. She said to me, "Well if I died tomorrow you'd be sad then." My reply, "If you died tomorrow it would be really sad, but you're going to die one day regardless. I'm going to die one day, my children are going to die one day. Nobody can stop that from happening." Her face hit the floor and she called me a bitch. Death is not a threat it is an inevitability, don't ever let anyone use it to guilt you I to anything.
I made a joke about the whole potato toxin thing and my stepmom said "well potatoes DO pull out toxins" She was serious. I don't know how I've lived this long if THAT'S what raised me.
I don't get that with my parents (thank god), but sometimes I do look at my nan and think, "How the heck did my mum turn out so well?" Not to say I don't love my nan, we get along in our ways, but she definitely has her own issues. Plus she probably shouldn't have stayed with my grandad, they really didn't suit eachother.
My mom is super toxic but in a sneaky way : she says that " physical abuse is bad " but thinks emotional abuse doesn' t exist, guilt trips me into doing more than I agreed to, and even didn' t react at all when I got into horribly manipulative relationships and hides behind the excuse that she was friends with the families of the people who hurt me, and keeps making me feel super bad about my weight but the very next day makes us go to the restaurant and that same evening makes crêpes pancakes and waffles with jam. She also keeps getting anger outburts about nothing. Also the type of person who says " hey you wanna do this or not ? " but in a way that impies that you actually don't have a choice so when I say no she throws a fit. She also keeps using me as a venting bag for all her trauma even though she has a therapist, and I don' t understand how she doesn' t realize what' s going on.
@@settingsun5582 I know right, mine is the same, my brother was the first one to fully run away and not come back. A few years later I met up with him and he gave me letters of well wishes to everyone. She read hers, flipped the envelope over and goes, ‘No apology and no money?!’ I have also since cut them off.
@@settingsun5582 Ikr, this is my mother in every aspect except the weight thing, she would actually get mad at us if any of us even hinted that we needed to lose weight
Sounds like my Foster parents. I got out when I turned 17 and cut all contact with them. Best decision I ever made. I'm from the UK so I don't know much about the legal system in the US but I hope you can get out as soon as you're ols enough
my mother has been saying "I'm not your friend, I'm your mother" my whole life to justify doing whatever abusive thing she feels like doing that day. whenever I see any parent say that shit I immediately don't trust them as a person. you can and should be both
Usually this kind of parents are the ones begging their child for friendship when they grow up. I'm so sorry about what happened to you and I hope you're safe and well now (also sorry for my bad english, im still learning)
The only moments I Tell that to my kids is when I have to enforce a boundary for their safety or health, otherwise I totaly agree with you :) Edit: I say it if they tell me I'm no fun, not because I'm just throwing that around 😂
The phrase used to mean something good. like "I'mm meant to raise you to be a functioning person, not give you everything you want. Sometimes I will have to step up as your parent even when you don't like it." which is a healthy way to parent, and is how you don't raise entitled little snot monsters. but then there are parents that turn that phrase into "I'm not going to treat you with basic dignity because I've gotta show yo what the 'real world' is like" and like your mom use it as an excuse to abuse their child and it's absolutely disgusting.
Every time I think I saw the worst one in the video I am corrected... that man is physically punishing a 4 MONTH OLD BABY?? WTF I don't even know what to do with this rage, he needs to be jailed and stripped of parental rights, that is so sickening
if your child can't understand reason, why would you hit them? if they can understand reason, why aren't you using words? there's no good reason, and physical punishment really fucks a person up later in life
Hearing about the abuse to a 4 month old and 20 month old. It’s just hurts my soul. 😢 I don’t understand how you can treat a baby like that. I make sure my kids are loved and they know we will always be there. Some people really shouldn’t be parents.
as someone who uses tracking apps for good reasons I can actually confirm that so long as all parties are not insane creatures it can be useful. I'm a minor and trans and often go on runs so me and my sister have each other on life360 so that way if im not home like 30 minutes after I normally get home she'll shoot me a message asking if im safe and if I don't respond she'll check location. we also use it when we're meeting up at a resturaunt and wanna check how far the other it.
I also have Life360 and find it really useful. It's good for finding out how far away lifts are or how long until family members arrive. It's also quite interesting seeing my aunt move around the hospital she works at!
Friend of mine's parents have one because he's got super bad manic depression and had several suicide attempts before he went on medication. The only time it's used is if he's deep in an episode and leaves the house for several hours without answering his phone. They've only needed it once, and thank goodness he came home on his own after another friend talked him down from hurting himself. So the apps are helpful if used right
I do it directly on google with my mom because she always do more hours at work than she should and it helps me not to worry. In any way, she's alright with it and she also has mine in case she's worried as well. We have honestly nothing to keep secret and even if we would, we mostly respect each others privacy.
I've been privileged enough to have a loving and supporting family around me, and whenever we get into disagreements or I feel unhappy, I watch these videos and I feel grateful that I don't have these insane parents. I honestly feel sorry for anyone who has to put up with these grown-up infants and I hope you can move past them because you don't need such BS in your life.
I also have a loving and supportive family and I'll probably be going to college in a few years maybe along the way I'll be able to give someone the same advice click has given all of us and try to help someone out of an abusive relationship. if I'm lucky there wont be a reason to do that but I can if the need ever arises that's why I love the click I hope everyone here has a good day, week, month, year and life💗
@@bumblebeeyellowdragon I'm sorry you had to go through all that. But remember, you don't need people in your life who don't have your best interests at heart. Let them rot in their cradle of misery, you don't need them
The stepmom getting angry at the kid for running 3.4 miles instead of 3.5 is just…bleh. I can imagine the stepmom is the kind of lady who has a Karen attitude and nitpicks at the smallest things just to start nonexistent problems because she’s bored and beating on her lower-downs is her favorite source of entertainment. She would be such a fun boss.
This is the type of boss that makes you bring a laptop with the sims installed and her as the family to a work party so all your coworkers can torture her.
13:33 this is basically child abuse. The little guy is an infant, the more the poor little thing gets hit the more he is going to cry. Yelling in his little ears could cause the baby to wind up deaf. And the sad thing is that mom is letting this happen. Prayers go out to the tiny ones. 🙏
I can't help but think the mom posting this is used to abuse and doesn't even realize she's in an abusive relationship. If the father is like that it makes me fear for the mother as well. I hope she got out, with the baby.
It's literally child abuse. Spanking is physical violence, physical violence against children is child abuse. And so is screaming into a babies ear, which is gonna cause them serious pain and can easily injure their ear, causing hearing damage. Hearing damage is permanent, those delicate hairs in the ear do not regenerate.
not basically, it is actually child abuse. Any form of aggressive or harmful approach (verbal or otherwise) towards another person is abuse. Screaming and yelling is verbal abuse. grabbing, slapping, throwing stuff at, hitting, pulling, etc. is physical abuse. Insulting, degrading, ignoring, gaslighting is emotional abuse, and touching or grazing or forcing someone to remove clothing or do things is s*xual abuse. My dad made me exercise topless when I was as young as 9(Thats around when I hit puberty and started growing rapidly in the chest). He failed to provide me with what I needed then punished me for it.
"letting it happen" is an unreasonable take. Abuse victims have a hard time leaving their situations, spousal abuse victims included. If she's reaching out like this she's on the path to getting out one day. It's super easy to demonize people you've never met who've had to endure horrors galore and put prayer hands after it, but you still look like a sanctimonious prick.
Same. And I don't like that we legit have to consider ourselves LUCKY to have had a healthy upbringing with loving and supporting parents, something that should by all means be normal but sadly isn't.
I was raised by my mother and never met my biological father. I often think how things could have been better if only he took me instead of my mom. I have ptsd from the abuse I was raised with. Thirty and fully agoraphobic. All I want is a mom or dad to call and tell me it’s gunna be ok. Someone who really truly cares about me. Oof yikes sorry for the trauma dump but yeah dang, hug your good parents.
@Doin Daworst Virtual hugs for you, I'm sorry that happened to you. But it will be okay, you will be able to get away from her, and you will find people that will love you and reassure you. Best wishes.
I almost started crying when you explained the family thing, so many times I brushed off the bad things my siblings said to me because they were family, thank you for finally helping me realize it doesn’t matter. They don’t deserve to keep being in my life if they don’t give me basic respect.
My mother just went no-contact with her horribly abusive older sister (after having her own father sabotage previous efforts for over a decade), and she's never been happier. I hope you have found the same amount of joy in enforcing your own safety!
the saying "the axe may not remember, but the tree never forgot" (or something close to that ) is very telling. although in my case, all I remember of the majority of my life until age 18, is a small handful of abuses. So thankful for my brain protecting me, although PTSD is there
Very true about life in general, we don’t know what actions we take will be a core memory for somebody else. Especially for children. We have to be careful.
I have always wanted to cut my hair short because of convenience and mom complains about it... only to get disowned after having it cut short today. But I'm quite proud of myself for being able to do it... this is the first time I fully defied my mom's orders about my body. She's like the parents in this subreddit... and it's quite coincidence that TH-cam recommended this to me today. I've always been afraid of defying my mom because she would always lash out at me and threaten me. But today... today is the day I did something I truly wanted, against her wishes, and I may be disowned from today forward but I have gained a new level of confidence... something I should've really had as a normal person would (but again, mom always wants to stunt all self-esteem cause that means I'll still be forced to follow her every whim). Edit: Sorry this is too long I'm, just too happy I'm crying a bit because of joy actually.
if that is reason enough to disown you, you should tell her that eventhough you know the hair will just grow back, your love for her will not and that it is now you who is disowning her of any future help she might need as she grows older
12:30 bed sharing is often a big red flag for child abuse or neglect and having sex in the same room as a child is 100% child s3xual abuse. Like if you're doing that, your child should not be in your custody.
That mom complaining about instant ramen seems kinda delusional tbh. "Healthy foods he likes but he still complains" sound like he doesn't like them actually
Ehhhh i mean maybe? I love me some healthy food, but if I was forced to eat the same kind all the time with no or little differences (let’s say skinless chicken, rice, carrots, then the next day grilled chicken strips, mixed veggies, third day something similar) I would be complaining too.
@@SyIzumakai I can 100% see this, probably preps everything in advance so every meal for 2 weeks or more is made of the same base ingredients and probably very little seasoning. She also sounds like someone who villianizes snacks of any kind, so no fruits, veggies, nuts, etc. That the kid can just grab.
@@SyIzumakai thats the big thing. often these controlling parents who say "healthy" pretty much are just cooking the same thing over and over often boiled vegetables etc no variety and think having a burger or say some ramen now and again(why not make fresh noodles for them to store that way they can make their own ramen snack if you dont want them to eat instant ramen) will kill them.
@@jannetteberends8730 now and again yeah instant ramen is fine. i still eat some now as a quick lunch. throw some leftover vegetables/cooked meat i have and its a very easy lunch that still with the added vegetables has nutrition as well. kid is probably starving on these "healthy meals" the parent is cooking them. i bet she doesnt make sure everything is covered nutrition wise.
The mom stopping the toddler from walking is hilariously misguided to me. As a parent of 3 (and uncle of one who is at my house for daycare often), I know that a newly-walking toddler moves way slower than a crawling one. And they stay slower than crawling pretty much until they learn to run. If you’re tired of chasing after your toddler all the time, LET THEM WALK.
spanking a 4mo child is insane. My cousins ex would lock their then 2 and 5mo old in the closet, and rattle the door and scream at them through the door (like blood curdling, anger rage scream) "for fun", thankfully he's not in the picture anymore, and their lives are much better, but the oldest is incredibly shy and timid, and has severe abandonment issues, and the youngest FREAKS out and screams in terror when in the dark, and is super easily startled by loud noises. by physically or emotionally "punishing" (assaulting/harassing) a child that young you're genuinly conditioning them to be afraid of you and/or various situations. dont spank babies, or scream at them. they arent capable of understanding, but are capable of being negatively affected.
I am unfortunately the opposite. I spent a lot of time growing up trying to convince myself they weren't that bad, and then I see posts like some of the ones in this video that I'm like "wow, that's terrible, I feel so bad for these kids" and then I realize "holy shit that's literally my mother." Luckily she never did a lot of the REALLY bad things here, but still.
I know that feeling my mom and dad were super trashy and wouldn't spend any money on me or my sister but they let us do whatever so I say I had it alright.
I am very happy something like screenshots and cams exist. When I was a kid a lot of abuse was simply not recorded. No one believed you, because no one would do such things and this parent has a great reputation in town. Thanks god kids can record things now.
Even than, there are some kids who dont even have access to modern technology like phones or cams, so they wont be able record the abuse they go through
The other side of it too, especially when I was growing up, any time you'd say something to an adult about what they were doing, they'd also say things like 'when I was a kid my parents beat me'. Like, uh, so because someone did it to you, it's fine? The generational attitude change, I'm really really glad more people are less willing to abuse their children now, or can't get away with it. At least among people I know.
A 4 month old isn't a toddler. It's an infant who can't even sit up yet much less take steps or have any sense of self. Which makes that so much worse. That mother needs to take that BABY out of that situation immediately and that father needs to take classes in parenting, child development and anger managment too. I judge the mother just as much for still giving that man access to the child after the first time she witnessed the abuse.
Yeah, toddler literally implies some level of ambulatory activity. A 4 month old can barely even roll over without assistance. A toddler is a baby like 18 months-3 years when they’re walking and have some level of communication ability
@@emilybarclay8831 Yeah, that situation is just utterly disturbing and very evil. It's literally physical and emotional abuse of a tiny human who can't move, can't talk, can't understand what's happening, can't fight and can't escape. Literally and absolutely all he/she can do is cry. Which ability evolution gave so that the mother would come to save them from whatever Is distressing them. Unfortunately that mother apparently loves her husband more than she loves her baby. I hope she stepped up and made the right choices for the child after undoubtedly getting ripped a new one In the replies to that Reddit post of hers. And hopefully also some calm and good advice because she doesn't sound capable of thinking of them herself.
What's sad too is the kid could be crying because something is seriously wrong. My niece would at that age right before she had a bad seizure. Kid could be in pain, scared, hungry, feeling ill, that poor kid is being hurt for no Damm reason.
My parents raised me eating a lot of natural foods...we went to Whole Foods a lot growing up. I used to love sleepovers because I got to splurge on junk. My cousins always had great sugary cereal. Honestly being raised that strictly when it came to food made me sway the other way as an adult. After years of 7 grain bread and natural peanut butter I now love white bread and Skippy. A lot of times that strictness backfires.
Not surprised, my mom wasn't that strict, but she would force me to eat a bowl of that water lettuce shi- often, and now I can't even look at it without feeling gross. I'm pretty sure I struggle with watery food due to sensory things too... Never had a fruit or something that doesn't taste disgusting lmao. Anywho, I can't eat supposedly "healthy" food is what I'm saying, and forcing it made it worse lol.
I'm grateful that my parents gave me a solid taste for more whole and healthy foods and I never learned "good foods and bad foods", but the financial rough patches and my mother trying to figure out healthy eating as I grew up (I was the firstborn) caused me to have a scarcity mindset. Sweet treats aren't "bad" to have in my mind and I know how to listen to my body's needs, but I still get so anxious and protective for fear of running out. Lately I've even been getting in fights with my younger siblings because they don't feel that fear and I do. They just run to the fridge to grab fruits and ice cream and soda and I'm always so worried that we'll run out and they had to ask for permission first.
This kinda reminds me of smth this one dietitian said about not restricting certain foods, and instead helping your child develop a healthy relationship with food or smth like that
Versly, and not saying it’s good, but I eat so much healthier now as an adult because as a neglected child, I had nothing but dollar goods and sugary trash constantly
This is a bit of a rant, but my mom is obsessed with food and being healthy and she has always been strict when ot comes to that. From a very early age she claimed that my health issues(even having simple colds) could be cured by not consuming milk and gluten, when i was diagnosed with ADHD, she even said it could be cured by etaing healthier. She put me on very strickt diets trhougout my entire childhood where i had to eat so much disgusting food, and it wasn't until doctors saw my lack of weight that they called in chikd services. I stopped going on diets at 11, because my weight was at 28kg. For the first time in my life, i got to eat normal food, and at first it felt so good, but having to gain weight is really fucking dificult as you have to eat way more food than you feel like you can take. All this had lead to me hating food, and i have developed various different eating disorders. Thanks, mom.
We were really poor as kids but our parents still gave us each a small $5 a week allowance and I was great at saving. I’d get paid for various chores too and saved up $500 at 12 yo. My mom came to me one day and told me the family was struggling. Could she use my money for bills and pay me back the next few months? I agreed. And actually made me feel all good inside 😂 It’s 100% about the principal! Ffs. Some parents 🙄🙄🙄
So horrified, especially the toddler being pushed down while starting to stand up... Can't imagine being punished for merely growing up while being so young causing any kind of trauma at all 🤦♀🤦♀🤦♀
A 4-month old is not a toddler; that is an _infant!_ What could an infant possibly be doing "wrong??" That mother is standing by while her baby is being abused.
When I came out as trans to my parents, they tried to accuse me of being sick or gaslight me or all sorts or horrible things. When I stopped replying, they outright disowned me, which fine. Whatever. I don't need that kind of toxicity.
I'm trans too. Every time i see a story like yours, i can't wait until i'm like 50 so i can go to pride and give trans teens the dad hugs they all deserve.
16:15 the worst part is it ISN'T the kid's property, it's technically the mother's since SHE paid for it. Sis destroyed her own property cause she needed to feel strong
Actually in the US gifts are considered a transfer of ownership meaning whether the mom payed for it or not if she gave it to her kid then it became the kid's property
My dad once told me to stop acting like a victim when I brought up the shit he put me through. He's moved past it, and therefore, I clearly just need to get over it too. Idk, I feel like I have a right to be mad until I no longer feel the need to go to therapy.
You are allowed to feel whatever you want. You are allowed to be sad, happy, angry for any reason. Just don't actually destroy a block. Your dad just doesn't want to be an effing parent. Take care of yourself before him, clearly he doesn't care about you. Remember, he WILL need you more than you need him (he will eventually need help to live well before you do)
Honestly thats textbook manipulation right there, abusers dont need to "get over" their own actions Im sorry your dad is such a terrible fucker, he is not talking from a logical standpoint as you were the one being hurt in the situation, no one gets to tell you how you feel about what happened to you
my mom had the same energy as that ramen lady when i was growing up. all it did was make me hide and hoard food, binge like crazy when "bad" foods were available because i didn't know when i'd see them again, and make me refuse to eat anything 'healthy' for like 5 years once i moved out. so... yeah, parents, PLEASE don't do this to your kids. i'm 27 now and only just starting to be able to work through my atrocious relationship with food.
@@alexshinra6722 They might very well end up in a vicious cycle of binging and dieting, rather than simply eating naturally. It's incredibly dangerous to your children's health to teach them to have unhealthy or unrealistic habits regarding food. A packet of instant ramen here and there is not going to hurt your kid, but an eating disorder definitely will.
So, I was beaten as an infant, and was removed from my bio parents due to this. The husband hitting his 4 month old HAS already scarred this child. The baby will likely have an attachment disorder with the mom and siblings should they have any. They will also have PTSD, which will look like blood curdling screams, constant crying, PTSD nightmares and much more. I had PTSD nightmares until I was 5, and instead of receiving compassion, my new mom broke out the wooden spoon for my crying. If either of the 2 women with evil husband's do not separate from them immediately, their child's lives will be ruined by this.
Is the husband really more abusive than the wife? She may have told him to do it. You don't know whose initiative it is. My grandmother rarely hit me, but she routinely told her husband (my grandfather) to beat me with a belt, when I was age 3 to 8. The beatings were not his initiative, they were the product of his misguided loyalty to his narcissistic wife. She wanted to hurt me, and used any flimsy pretext she could. They stopped when I was 8, belatedly realizing that it didn't work, lol. I have high pain tolerance, low pain avoidance. Didn't cry, didn't beg for mercy. A more perceptive person would have realized this after the first episode.
@J.M. Olsen there doesn't seem to be any indication that she was telling her husband to hurt the baby. That being said, she is also responsible if she does nothing to stop him, but only if she herself is not also being abused. I specify this to explain that in the instance of her being abused, she would also be a victim and would have more difficulty leaving due to that. Most abusers teach their victims that they cannot trust others or themselves. Narcissists do the same thing. Either way, in your case, both your grandparents are abusive. She instructs him to hit you, and he complies. Also, I empathize with your experience. Even if it didn't hurt physically, it still has a high likelihood of causing trauma.
@@CardinalSin69 Sure, both of my grandparents were abusive, even if motivation was different. The big conflicts they had with me were either of spiritual nature, or about keeping up appearances. I found them non-threatening if not pleasant to deal with in some ways. I didn't develop CPTSD until age 12-13. By then my mother had remarried and moved out of her parents house. Her third husband and the disastrous public schools I was forced to attend until 16, broke the camel's back. Funny how that condition was invisible when present in working class youths. Sure, it was a while ago, me being tail end gen X. Adults in first and second world countries pick their own relationships, so there is a time when a woman can decide to acknowledge the red flags people who know her tell her about, and look for someone else rather than enter a bad news relationship. Same goes for men, obviously.
@J.M. Olsen I get what you mean. My sister, younger by 6 months, is just now getting out of an abusive relationship. I have been working with her to change the way she talks about herself and to help point out the red flags she has been missing. She was with him for 10 years, and two of her three kids are his. She was only 16 when she met him. She is now dealing with the aftermath of 10 years of physical, emotional, and mental abuse. This man is dangerous. He broke into her home several times, broke into her mother's home, has physically abused her in front of her kids, verbally abused her in front of her kids, stolen the parking pass for her apartment, and thrown an electric drill at her feet, missing and damaging her property. She has proof of the verbal abuse, and witnesses for some of the physical abuse. She brought this to a judge to get a restraining order for her kids. The judge tossed it out and told her to coparent with him. This is why it can be so hard to actually leave your abuser. We have to keep tabs on her everyday to ensure she is ok. She has almost full custody, and wasn't sure how to put her foot down or if she was allowed to. Luckily, I am extremely persuasive, and have convinced her that she has the power in this situation and that he does not. But, I have had to talk with her for the last 6 months before she felt comfortable talking about the situation. This is kinda why I put the exception in the OG comment. Because I am witnessing firsthand how bad it actually is, and how hard and dangerous it is to break free.
It’s very possible that the 4 month old was at risk of being killed or wind up severely brain damaged if the father escalated to shaking the child. The kid could end up with seizure disorders, paralysis, or a persistent vegetative state.
My mother is like the mom who preached about kids needing mom in life😂. She never cared for any of us and just used us to garner pity and favors from people. She’s abusive to us at home and in public acts like a good mother when she’s not.
32:00 Had even worse family do that to me. My sister died, drowning because she attempted to save her best friend, who was the first to start drowning. She died because she reached out to help her best friend. Multiple times I've had my grandma say to me that she only died because she was drunk. This comes from the fact that my sister enjoyed a beer now and again with her friends. My family is super conservative and considers any consumption of alcohol, nicotine or anything else to be akin to stabbing them in the heart. Every time she said that, I told her to just stop talking about my sister, even if that's what she truly believes. She stopped, and then the next time would say the exact same thing again. I started warning her that I'd stop coming over if she kept saying that, but she just persisted. I eventually gave up and told her I'd never talk to her again. My aunt was over as well (her daughter), and took her mother's side in this despite pretending to care about my sister. So I cut relationships with both of them. The crux of the matter is that they were saying the only reason she tried to save her best friend from dying is that she was drunk. They're saying if she would not drink, she would stand there and watch her friend die. That is not the sister I've known all my life. That is not the person she was. Throughout the years, she kept trying to contact me, and every time I've answered, asked her what she wanted, and when she said she just wants to talk, I said I'm not interested and quoted myself saying I'd never talk to her again. Fast forward to this year - she was on her deathbed, and my cousin contacted me to tell me that she's dying. I said I'm not going. My cousin then accused me of being hateful and a horrible person and told me that I just don't want to come because my father told me not to come. My father, her son, had his own issues with her, and stopped talking to her years before I did, but somehow my grandma and aunt both poisoned my cousin against me. I had nothing against my cousin. We didn't visit each other really, but we'd say hi and chat a bit on the street when we met. Despite her not inviting me to her wedding nor to my nephew's baptism, I still felt no ill will toward my cousin. I tried to explain to her that the reason I'm not coming is because of what her mother and grandmother kept saying about my sister, and she outright denied that they would ever have said it. I'm not even given an apology here, from either of the two. I'm expected to pretend it never happened, and then be a comforting presence to someone who both tried to poison my sister's memory and successfully turned my cousin against me. My dad went to the funeral, despite his issues with his mother and even with his sister running much deeper. I'm as good as my word. I never visited her again, and I never talked to her again. I didn't go. May she rest in peace, but she was no family of mine. When my aunt's time comes, I may visit just to be there for my cousin. I never promised not to talk to my aunt again, after all. But while my grandmother kept trying to contact me, my aunt never did. Even if she did, I would never forgive her. It's not my place to forgive her. Her and her mother's slights were against my sister, who will never be able to say one way or another - but I can certainly bear a grudge to my grave for the utter, unnecessary insults on my sister's character. I'm not made of stone - if they did ask for forgiveness at any point, I might have started talking to them again. They never made the effort. For anyone who's read thus far, I'm about 10 years into my no contact policy with these two utterly toxic people. I'm much happier than I was when I made all of the effort to try and have friendly relations with them. If someone does something unforgivable to you, no matter what that is, stop trying. Let them realize what they're losing, and let them make a first step. If they never do, you know exactly how much they cared about you in the first place.
12:36 yeah I'm one of those kids and it messed me up real bad. I'm 22 and still remember it clearly, I can't even imagine the "position" without having flashbacks and experiencing the feeling of being scared and unsafe in the dark, unable to do anything but silently cry and cover one ear while clutching my plushie with the other hand... TLDR: don't do "adult stuff" around your kids, even if they're "asleep"
This isn't a parents thing but 1 in 8 children in the USA go hungry from food insecurity. As a Canadian I have to send money to one of my girls who lives in the US because she and her mother can't afford food for an entire month despite having food stamps and a job. The situation is insane.
As a Canadian, Canada is no better for food security. Especially in the past few years. Particularly because transportation costs of foods are higher from the growing regions since we're farther away. Glad you're able to help her out but it's not just an American problem.
@@emeraldleece9738 Canada has food banks and community centers where you can get plenty of food. I literally use them all the time in Ontario. So yeah we are definitely more food secure because we have more freely accessible food programs.
God, the one about the husband spanking the 4 month old pisses me off so much. I did a whole research paper about why physical punishment is bad for kids (of all ages) my senior year. I did extensive research, got evidence from literal scientific journals and examples from other countries, I think I even got a 100% on my paper. When I told my mother about my research topic, she was all like "yeah sure, why don't you show me this 'evidence'" and laughed about it like I was just some bratty teenager. So yeah, no, do not spank your kids, regardless of what age they are, but *especially* not at 4 MONTHS OLD. Also! On the subject of the 3 year old taking care of the 1 year old, my older sister and I used to have to do that with my younger sister. It was like shortly after my parents got separated and my mom had custody, so we were mostly living with her, but she wouldn't get up early in the mornings (I will give this to her though, because she has always and to this day still has severe sleeping problems), so my older sister and I would get my younger sister up. We even somehow firgured out how to get her out of her crib. To be honest even I'm not sure how, because neither of us could reach. There was also one day when my younger sister was a little older, probably 3 or 4, and the light in her room went out one morning, so she asked our mom to change it, but our mom told to her to change it herself. The switch ended up blowing up when she went to flip it, and she couldn't use the light for the rest of the time we lived in that house. Luckily she wasn't hurt, just freaked out.
When i first started watching you, i related to the r/insaneparents the most, i heard your commentary and i was worried that it might make me selfish/entitled, but it turns out that the selfishness was just wanting basic human decency. Thank you
Growing up my wife’s father would beat the shit out of his kids,and then sit them down out tell them it was their fault they made him do it. That was a major reason why his wife divorced him while the kids were still young and he had no contact with them for years. It was also why telling her “You have to understand “ was an instant end to any conversation with her.
Aaand here they are, the adults who will forever think that their existence is to blame for everything bad in the world. Yikes. We can't tell kids enough that nothing is their fault. It's always the adults.
Couple a years ago, my narcissistic mother became irritated and felt neglected because I was talking to my suicidal friend who was going through a divorce after 17 years of marriage. She then called me everyday because "If you can talk to him everyday for hours, then you can talk to me everyday for hours".
@@Nukaturtle low contact working on no contact. Moving two states away later this year and she's amping up. And reminding me of how mentally and emotionally abusive she is.
@@shiratojin Incredibly. Then she talks bad about a friend who haven't reached out because his life went to shit when his ex cut him out of his child's life before she was even born. She mocks me for Calling him a friend and reminds me of what she considers a bad decision.
My dad once called me a 'stupid onion' because I forgot to take the leftovers from dinner at their place home... and that kinda hurt, even if it's a silly insult and he didn't mean to hurt me. I can't imagine having a parent actually cuss you out. That's so brutal :(
Because of Click I got really into ties and started wearing them. And I'm not a man, so it was never expected of me. Thank you Click for inspiring me and giving me more ideas to break gender roles :D
You can have mine! :D Bloody useless clothing, but if you like them, knock yourself out! I am 55m, and l like linen scarves (like we wore in the late 70s). Guess things even out! :)
I'll never understand the idiots who say things like "Should I bring my sick child to a doctor? Whatever I am and have been doing isn't working." It doesn't just make me question their intelligence, but also their abilities as parents, as well as their logical thinking skills.
My mom sent me a text one day when I was 23 saying "YOU WANT ME DEAD! ALL YOU CARE ABOUT IS MY LIFE INSURANCE! YOU ARE DISGUSTING" because I went though a witchy phase as a teen and cursed one of her boyfriends that abused me and my brothers and who also ended up almost shooting my mom, and my mom had found the curse I wrote 7 years later in furniture she had in storage for 6 years. Like yes yes, blame the child who lives very very far away for plotting to kill you, you rational and loving parent.
18:43 suing will work as long as you are above 18 and have full ownership over the cat. It could even be a criminal charge because of theft. Also you have to be able to buy a good lawyer.
You can see how upset Click is by the fact that he completely foregoes his usually careful judgements and just outright call them out for not moving past highschool trauma (and implying they're taking it out on their kids).
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Calling Andrew Tate cringe without even naming him by name and then moving on to the next subject like nothing. Truly an alpha move. The Click doesn't waste time on trash.
"Like nothing"? Well that guy _is_ nothing, lol
Fr. The "guy" is behind bars thanks to a pizza box. Yes, I kid u not.
Where? I wanna see
@@LRM12o8 Amen!
An "alpha" is just a father figure but yes he's n awful guy glad he's in jail
Woman on the internet: 'NO ONE knows my child exists!!!'
The internet once this information is shared: 'Now wait a damn minute, something ain't right.'
by posting, she made herself wrong!
@@charlesfisher-kh5sw She was wrong from the start. For it to be no one, she would have to be clueless herself.
It gives off the "no one knows I'm gay" cringey shirt vibe only more illegal
The child is SCP 055 lol
@@screencriminal1973 fr
A 3 or 4 month olds are incapable of being "naughty" in any way. They can't even crawl at that age. They are pretty much like newborn still. They don't cry to spite or annoy or protest. They cry because they need something or they hurt.
If you manage to teach a 3-4m old to not cry, it's because profound psychological damage has been done.
Yeah. It makes me so upset to even imagine. It reminds me of the footage of abused toddlers that I saw in university. No smile, no crying, just apathy. And apparently some people think that is an ideal to strive for.
Can you imagine, you used to live in this warm, dim place for nine months, where voices were muted and you just heard the steady rhythm of someone's body constantly. And suddenly you are thrust into a cold, harsh world and these people that you have known all your existence, the one constance through that incredible change, hurt you for asking for help! I can't imagine. To such babies the world must seem to be filled with monsters.
Heck some 4 month olds can't even lift their own head. They are basically still fetuses. Hitting an infant that young could kill them.
4 months old isn't even a toddler, children are still considered infants until 2 years old, this man is laying hands on an infant
Edit: I'd just like to mention that sometimes infants and toddlers don't cry anyways and usually it's because they have a mental disability like autism, which I have and apparently I almost never cried
I’m sure children crying in the middle of the night IS annoying, that doesn’t mean you get to slap the living daylights out of them
…my mom always said I didn’t cry during the night
oh my god what did she do
This mysterious blonde lady that appears in Click’s videos sometimes is such a good actor, she should get a raise!
Her name is Klique
Complain to the manager
I now it hard to believe but that actually Click in a wig. I know I was just a shocked to find out, he is such a good actor it hard to believe
her name is clickaren, not klique
@@charlesfisher-kh5sw Lol in sweden that means "the clicker" so it's extra funny
What could a 4 month old possibly do to warrant being "spanked"?... That's complete abuse and he may end up shaking that baby and giving it shaken baby syndrome. Also 4 months is an infant, not even a toddler yet.
It's freaking divorce material
@@invadersin5203I think you mean prison.
@@aimlesscrusader3075 I think you mean pirhana tank
what is "shaken baby syndrome" i'm stupid
@jan-Pala Shaken baby syndrome is a severe form of head injury caused by the baby's brain rebounding inside of the baby's skull when shaken. In this injury there is bruising of the brain, swelling, pressure, and bleeding, This can easily lead to permanent, severe brain damage or death.
Can we please all agree that having sex in the same bed your child sleeps in WHILE she's sleeping in it is wrong and disgusting!?
wrong and disgusting is a fucking understatement
id say "borderline illegal" is more accurate
I'm 100% it is a crime 🥰
That is a sexual harassment. So yeah, that is for sure a big disturbing no no.
me when sex in the vicinity of a minor
yeah
"The baby cries every night. Hubby goes in with a belt to whoop it but it won't stop!"
Of course not - it associates night-time in its crib as that time when a monster comes in and attacks him. They are literally training their baby to cry at night time, and then beating it for it.
You realize a LOT of these "stories" are made up by KIDS, right??
@@lorireed8046 Sure, but I've known a lot of people over my years, and I wouldn't put this post beyond all of them.
A *Lot* of people, even parents, let their emotions get away from them and they "anthropomorphise" their baby, thinking that the logic they use should be the logic it would use.
It's the same mental failing as people who yell & scream at their dog to shut up when they're barking, not realizing that to the dog they just got a barking-buddy!
@Lori Read
ah yes that’s what gen z is doing these days, lying about horrible abuse and pretending to be parents online with fake made up kids.
That sure is fun, my fav thing to do every day!/sarcasm
no but really, then people like you wonder
“bUt WhY wOuLdnT tHe KiD sAy SoMeThInG aBoUt ThE aBuSe??”
when parents do get caught.
*because people don’t respect kids and believe them, IT IS NOT YOUR RIGHT TO JUDGE WHETHER SOMEONE IS LYING OR NOT ABOUT ABUSE*
-A gen z kid that’s tired of not being treated like *an actual person*
@@lorireed8046 Yeah, some may be but I can attest to the fact that abuse like this isn’t as rare as most would like it to be. My father used to choke me as a baby when I would not stop crying. My mother told me when I was in my teens..and well knowing my turbulent father. Well, it’s not very surprising, just saddening and disgusting.
@@lorireed8046I have personally known people who have beaten kids to try and get them to stop crying. These stories do not surprise me in the slightest
Three-year-old me:
*draws in predominantly dark, sombre colours*
Kindergarten psychologist:
*draws my mother's attention to this, explaining that it means high levels of stress, anxiety and possibly depression*
Mother:
*yells at me at home for shaming her like that and being ungrateful, throws away all dark-coloured pencils, crayons and paints, punishes me if I mix dark hues from other colours*
Also mother:
"Why won't you visit, why won't you ever let your kids stay with me?"
I am so sorry that happaned to you, your mom didn't even try to help you
@@ines1084 she doesn't even comprehend that she did something wrong. That's narcissists for you. You can only learn to recognise the behaviour and keep your distance from such people
I’m so sorry.
Psychologist: "We're worried that your child might be having a hard time at home"
Mom: "It's those damn crayons! How dare you!"
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Skinner meme:
"Do i need to reevaluate my parenting?"
"No! It's my child who is wrong!"
The mom claiming her son likes the healthy food she buys, yet "complains incessantly" is completely out of touch with her son, and reality.
100% she can't cook for sh*t and just boiled everything and don't add salt because it's sooooooo unhealthy otherwise
I mean, I like chicken and veggies but I’d complain if my mom never let me have a coke too
@@KenikoBfor real. It is awesome she works hard to provide a healthy balanced diet for her kid. That is good parenting. But freaking out if they have any amount of junk food on a rare occasion is not caring for your child, it is being controlling. It does them no good and they will resent you for it.
@@sassyviking6003 definitely. Being healthy is part of life, but so is being happy, and having some less healthy foods occasionally is not going to kill you and is going to make you feel good
@@KenikoB There isn't really such a thing as "unhealthy food". It's just a matter of balancing your intake of said foods. But other than that technicality, I agree- a treat here and there is absolutely part of maintaining a person's overall wellness.
"do as i preach not as i do" is literally every facebook mom's slogan who neglects and treats their kids like garbage and acts like she is the mom of the year on her facebook
never really understood that saying either, if you know you are doing something wrong why not change and do it right? also, if you say how to do something and then do it differently doesnt teach anyone how to do it correctly...
@@BobOrKlaus Because change takes effort. And also to actually change would be to admit that they were doing something wrong, and these people are NEVER wrong.
@@-Devy- Oh they will say they are wrong, but then you're supposed to forgive them for "a few mistakes" because "they tried their best". Hmm hmm, their best ey. I'm just glad I'm not around for the worst.
I was literally thinking those words the entire time… that’s literally what they sound like
Or parents who say: „I was beaten black and blue when I was young, you don’t have it hard!!!!“ -> proceeds to lecture who for an hour and then give you 10 „whoopins“ with a belt and wants a hug afterwards even though she also regularly humiliates you about your body, fashion, choices in intrests (wether hobby, love or career)….. am I missing smth?
Oh and denies it also with “I don’t remember that that way!” And also “you have been the way you are since you were born although i have been nothing but awesome….”
🙄🤬😒 yeah frick those people.
Ps.: if you are offended by this (possibly because it sounds familiar in a negative way) pls do not procreate. 🥲
Spanking a 4 month old IS abuse. If it doesn't stop ASAP it may change how the poor kid thinks of love and bonding, and what level of violence is appropriate to use on others casually. I would like to mention here- my Dad and all his siblings were spanked as kids. Even worse, their mother actively beat them, choosing objects based on how much pain she thought they would inflict. That kind of thing is linked to mental illness in adults, and indeed, he now has PTSD, one of his sisters is emotionally unstable, and one of their brothers will likely (hopefully) be in prison for life. Don't spank your kids, people.
I've been spanked and I turned out fine... Ha! That's what I thought as a teen, because you rationalize and idealise your parents' actions!
Now I realise how many of my problems, some of which I still struggle with to this day (a deep need to please people, avoiding responsibility for my actions, excessive apologizing, fears of authority figures and so on) stem from this horrible practice!
My kids will never be spanked. I will never intentionally hurt my kids.
But even worse! Who spanks a baby of 4 months?! That's almost a newborn! They are only just beginning to be aware of their hands, what are they expecting them to learn?
exactly!! thats a whole fetus they aassaulting
calling regular spankings “tough love” is how you get someone who emotionally and physically abuses their partner, since they were raised believing that emotional and physical abuse was the best way to show love
The answer is to divorce
Definitely not a toddler like click erroneously refer to as. A 4 month old certainly ain't standing up right or even toddling for that matter, they don't even aware of their own body.
The mom wanting all the food being healthy and going through the trash is definitely going to cause her son an eating disorder.
Oh wow!😃 Hope the kid doesn't have to deal w/ that. I don't know much abt eating disorders but ik that there are two one, you eat a lot and then throw it up if I am correct and the other, eating too less. In a book series I've read a character had an eating disorder and he had to go to a psych ward or mental hospital to help him heal. I could be off but ik that eating disorders are not fun and not a joke. Sorry if I got something wrong, and if I shouldn't have said this, me being in high school. I just thought I could show my understanding that an E.D. is not okay especially if a family member caused it.
@@CharleighBarton there are many more. Like there's one where you binge but don't vomit. But there's also one where you're obsessed with like eating healthy. Counting everything. It's a huge spectrum and I'm not joking at all, I know ppl who've developed a very unhealthy relationship with food because of situations like that story.
@@matildajaakkonen8248 Oh, sorry. Maybe I shouldn't have said anything. Ik ur not joking but I just thought maybe I could show my understanding as a high school student. I'm sorry
@@CharleighBarton no it's alright. I just wanted to make sure.
@@matildajaakkonen8248 Okay! Thank you.
Fun fact: being forced into eating a type of food in your childhood makes you less likely to choose to eat that food later in life, while not being allowed to eat something will only make you crave it.
Wow it's as if strict parenting only teaches kids to lie and keep secrets, as well as guaranteeing the parents to live alone old and bitter. Whoda thunk it!
I know when I moved out I craved packaged snacks like Hostess and little Debbie because my crazy mom would never let us eat them
I had a friend who was abused into eating rice, as a kid, by her aunt. She now has an indirect allergy to rice. Like, anything with the texture of rice. Rice paper is OK and so it Rice Kristin's. It is specifically the texture of rice. Rice is literally a trigger for her, and her body will actively reject it because of trauma.
@@maxbaker7841 My mum used to force me to eat PLAIN rice on its own with no sauce sometimes... or sauce that did not go with rice. Not because she was abusive she just couldn't cook most things very well! I can't stand rice unless its from a Chinese restaurant.
Yep, reason my parents would ask me if I liked the food I was eating, and if not, would make me something else. Reason I now crave healthy foods, and enjoy cooking.
The father abusing his 4 month old Baby as means to "discipline" him is disgusting beyond words.
My daughter is just shy of 4 months, seeing her even in mild discomfort makes my Heart bleed, I can't fathom how someone would think they're fit to be disciplined in any way, let alone physically.
Most Babies that age can't even roll around yet, they're completely dependent on their caregivers to show them how the world works - in an understanding, empathetic manner.
Friendly reminder: corporal punishment is not physical discipline.
Instilling physical disciple is teaching and reminding your child of self care tasks, such as hygiene and encouraging physical activity. Discipline is a healthy survival mechanism, not a means of punishment.
Routine
Acceptance
Consistency
Encouragement
Concentration
Accountability
Responsibility
These are the principles which drive a disciplined, healthy child's development.
@@audreydoyle5268
To a four month old, that can hardly see let alone comprehend language.
@@audreydoyle5268how did you come up with this definition? It's simply not the way the term is used. Besides they said "discipline" in quotes. A four month old does not need any version of physical discipline.
@@audreydoyle5268 he’s four months old, he can’t even move and he’s completely dependent on his parents and he’s instilling fear of men into this little boys brain.
I just saw this now, and I am shaking with rage. WTF. You hit a 4 month old baby? Just one more proof that there needs to be a requirement for a license to become a parent. Reminds me of the story my sister, who is a physical therapist, told me. They brought a 5 month old into the practice because the father shook her too hard. This girl had brain and spine damage.
The thing that concerns me about the ramen mom isn't even her attitude about food but the fact she thinks her kids are actively working against her.
The boy isn't eating ramen in order to just mock his mother. Your children are not the enemy.
Kids often crave what they aren't allowed to have. In fact, whatever you want but can't have as a kid is what you are going to CRAVE as an adult. I'm still addicted to food, I just can't resist eating what I want when I want even if it wrecks my finances. Why? Because I had health issues as a kid so I couldn't eat on and off for an entire year. Because Mom sometimes bought certain things I didn't like and I was never offered an alternative, so I just couldn't eat, or had to make a meal out of side dishes, or ate the bare minimum and went to bed, and often when she made things I did like she wanted to save leftovers so I couldn't eat until I was full. I'm not saying I never got to eat food I liked until I was full, but it was rare enough that I never got tired of it and food is still my major weakness.
Yeah, I freaking HATE it when parents take rejecting their choices “personally”. There is not a single human being on this planet that enjoys being told what to do with their life
Word of the wise: Don't mess with a kid's relationship to food. Without all the trauma dumping, with my mom and stepdad I was constantly in trouble for things. Mostly not doing my homework and lying about it being done (I have learning disabilities and had challenges but I couldn't even ask for help. I'd get in trouble one way or the other.) One of the ways they punished me was feeding me food they knew I hated. It doesn't sound bad on the surface, but you try being fed stuff that didn't taste good and most of the time not really knowing what it is. And intentionally being isolated and excluded when they went out to eat.
I developed a not very healthy relationship to food and I still don't really like eating what I want to in front of others. I snuck food to avoid having to eat what was provided. Those meals were nutritious too, but they were also calibrated as a punishment. Screwing with someone in regards to food is inadvisable in my humble opinion, having known people with eating disorders and as someone who's very guarded about what I eat in front of others and still buy my own unhealthy shit to eat away from prying eyes. It's not healthy.
I left out most of the specifics but that's the gist of it.
PERFECT SOLUTION, for the 13 y/o boy that brought forbidden Ramen into her "healthy only" house... teach the kid how to add good things _to_ that ramen, like an egg or some veggies. You know, _just incase_ you're not around to pay for his food all the time. If you stfu & _teach_ him, he'll know how to cook & clean up after himself. It's kinda _your whole job_ to ready him for the real world.
IF you as a parent NEVER, _EVER_ allow junk food, whenever your kid does inevitably get their hands on some they'll over indulge on it to the point of making themselves sick. I've had 4 y/o's at my child's BD party & they ate the sugary foods as if they were rabid for it. It's sad & a little scary. 2 handfuls of sweets, running off & _hiding_ to eat it. Than, choking on it because they thought they had to do it fast before they got caught with it! Still remember thinking, "What a nightmare, that poor baby was living in." This type of shit can cause some serious ED in order children that sick around into adulthood too. Be careful what you do as a parent to your children... it _really_ matters! Balance is _everything!_
@@amberkat8147I mean. if you had health issues that actively required you to be on a diet, that's not your mom's fault dude...
6:15 that's not borderline slave labor, this is *literally* slave labor:
- She doesn't get paid for the work she does
- She doesn't get a say in the informal "work contract" (quote: "this is non-negotiable")
- She may be legally allowed to leave and start her own life, but good luck finding a home with no job and no money! I'm 100% sure their parents have already taken all her money, leaving her with no (safe) way to escape. They do effectively _own_ her!
Also it's illegal to impose rent unless both parties consent to rent, that is also why you should never offer to pay rent even if it's only a couple cents, once a rent agreement of any kind is made it's a lot easier to increase it
+ they stopped her from getting any education and in today's society, good freaking luck getting a job without any education...
@@lampekartoffel it's literally grounds to sue them over
@@ConstantChaos1 with what money?
@@lawrencelopez9839 There are lawyers who take those cases for a certain %/amount of the money paid in the event a near-certain case like these are won.
The toddler spank story angers me
That isn't a toddler
A toddler is 1 or older
They can't even eat solid foods yet that's around 6 months
Yeah, at that age the child may have finally developed the muscle definition to hold their head up on their own, but not much else!
Yeah, that's a baby. Kinda implies the guy is hitting and screaming at a baby for crying or pooping itself, which is about all they can do at that point.
@@sarahchicago I have 5 little siblings so I somewhat know what happens (most of the time) at times in a baby's life
And most babies can't have honey(by itself) till one
This baby got beat before tasting pure honey
@@maisie28_ Sounds like my life before I was adopted.
It passes me off too. Like if they're doing this stuff to babies and small toddlers, how far are they going to go when the child is older?
That one mom pushing down her child who was trying to walk is like a metaphor for this whole sub - when their children try to assert any kind of independence, it’s pushed down in favour of the parent’s desires.
Ooga booga Me keep baby close to God's earth while in _disgusting human building_ moment
I'm a millennial so I grew up getting spanked by a parent who hated doing it, but thought it was necessary for me not to grow up spoiled rotten (because that's what his parents taught him). here's what we realized after I was grown:
1. if they're not old enough to reason that they've done something wrong, they're not old enough for a spanking.
2. if they are old enough to reason that they've done something wrong, they are old enough to be sat down and talked about why they shouldn't do it. so they're too old for a spanking.
(and as for kids who can't be reasoned with: no amount of spanking will cure a child with ASPD, oppositional defiant disorder, etc -- it's just going to make their behavior worse.)
therefore, there is no appropriate age for a parent to spank a child. spanking is just teaching them to be afraid of you/consequences. don't keep that cycle going.
back to the funny stuff!
The only real long-term correlation is that it makes people more likely to be willing to accept violence against other people, including their own children. It's not universal (people are quite able to look at the experience and use it as more motivation to reject violence and break the cycle), but yeah. What does work is your #2 -- especially in the context of a general "learn to think about how what you do will make other people feel" approach, which is something that children are quite capable of understanding.
All these years later, I don’t remember what I had been spanked for, even though it only happened a couple times. What I do remember is the panic of being chased by a trusted authority figure who I believed loved me, knowing I couldn’t do anything about it. That’s a lot of cognitive dissonance for a young child.
If I got spanked it was because I was "bothering" my dad by coming to him when my brother was bullying me. It pretty much just taught me that no matter what, the men are allowed to do whatever they want, and I can't trust them to support me.
My aunt spanked me. My aunt ran a day care and I was with her all day while my single mother worked all the time. She was in her early 20’s at the time so I don’t blame her as much. But now I’m constantly expecting that someone will like spank me or more like hit me when I do something wrong. But also she used to like rip my teeth baby teeth out the second it was loose so it’s not that shocking
Oh, so now we're pathologizing being headstrong? Jesus, this society really is bent on turning everyone into robots.
Having sex in the same bed or same room your child is in it's really problematic, in my country you can go to jail because that classifies as sexual harassment and it really is, teaching your kid to sleep in another room is easier than making them pretend they're asleep every time you have "adult" time and yes, they're not asleep, they're pretending and they pretend to wake up when they get enough of your shit
Agreed, totally disgusting. Evan an infant should be in a crib if parents are doing that 🤢🤮
I've walked in on my parents having sex in the fucking living room at six in the evening. Literally, get a room.
literally... i cant imagine how traumatizing that would be
@@2cat4life it was bad, and not the only time either.
Don't they have a sofa FFS!
My mom used to tell a story that was her favorite from when I was several months old. It was a story about how neglectful she was of her daughter. Apparently, she would sleep until 12 pm and I didn't cry or make any noise. I would have a full diaper but never once interrupted her sleep.
I have other horror stories like the time she went to answer the phone, leaving me alone in a kitchen sink filled with water and soap. She said I had disappeared and she thought I had drowned, only to find my tiny hand holding onto the faucet and my baby cheeks puffed out because I was holding my breath. Yeah, there are some horrible parents out there.
"Oh look I have a fun story of almost letting my child drown 🤪"
So sorry you had to go through that 😮
In glad you have a strong survival instinct.
Yeah there's a few "funny" family stories that get told concerning myself. All because my mum wouldn't let me wake her up in a morning (or dad, when they were together) so I was regularly unattended for 3-5+ hours every morning
The one that always gets me most is the one that happened when I was about 5, and its the time I was sick in the car after a breakfast of chocolate and cookies. Ofc it's always "haha remember that one time he ate all that chocolate?". I hate when this gets told as a funny story these days, because the reason why I used to eat chocolate and biscuits for breakfast nost days (or honestly, possibly every day) is because, upon waking up at 5-6am every day, I was very hungry, understandable considering I'd probably had my tea the night before over 12 hours prior, but I wasn't allowed to ask mum for breakfast until at least 9-10am, and I couldn't make cereal by myself. So I'd climb on the worktop and get into the chocolate cupboard, because nobody wants to sit with hunger pains for 4 hours...
Jesus Christ 😢
My therapist said i wasn't supposed to unpack my entire childhood trauma in 40 minutes
And yet we’re all here anyway
Be was probably going you'd spread it out to at least six sessions so he'd get paid more.
I mean that's honestly impressive. Plus it's cheaper.
bold of you to think mine could be even summarised in 40mins
*laughs in my only personality trait being my inability to function*
Tbh they were correct. You should have unpacked your fists on their face
"I have no memory of you kids growing up" that's an absent or substance addicted parent. Absolutely abusive either way, and bo child was at fault for a parent like that.
Depression also turns your memory into Swiss cheese.
@@imshinycaptain is that why i have basically no memory of my childhood......
@@imshinycaptain yes, but when you are a parent, even with severe depression you would still most likely remember your kids growing up, even if it is a bit spotty or blurry, unless you were still absent or neglectful even unintentionally. Unintentional child neglect is still child abuse, just unintentionally, which is very sad both for the parent and child. Cases like that are one reason why there is a push in social work to treat the whole family and not just remove the child from a situation every time. If you can get the support for the depressed parent, then they can be able to be a better caretaker to both their child and themselves.
@@KaityKat117 Could be? I remember like... the broad strokes. But a lot of it is just like ?
@@imshinycaptain and dissociation
My mother and her siblings got beaten up a lot in their childhood. When one of them did something wrong, all other siblings got punished as a collective too. My brother and I never got hit while we grew up, but my mom struggled quite a lot while she was raising two kids practically alone before she got a divorce. We weren't poor, but my mom did her best so my brother and I would never have to experience the same things that she had to experience like having to watch their father eat an entire family pizza alone. She screamed at my brother and me a few times when she was at her wits end thanks to her trauma, but she always apologized afterwards and talked to us to clear things up.
My mom’s the same way ❤
See?!!? It is possible to break the cycle of abuse. We need more people like this comment, rather than the people in these posts.
@@taviebrown2271An adult relative used to yell at me frequently because he never learned to control his anger growing up. He worked hard for years to fix it, and now we have a great relationship
Your mom is awesome ❤
yes, kudos to your mom. She did not chose to be abused and traumatized but chose to make the effort to do better.
This is a big thing. It's not called "generational trauma" for no reason. As she had no healthy model to copy, she must have put a big effort on learning about ways to do better.
And apologizing. Absolutely. No parent (or just anyone)bcan allways be perfect.
And since kids are asked to apologize so often, how be a better model for them than be an accountable adult oneself.
I always laugh when Click pulls out the wig because the idea that he bought it solely to make fun of Karens for his videos always cracks me up
Ikr! It's so funny!
It’s even funnier if you imagine that he buys a new one for each video.
@@givemeawand What?! 😳🤔
and we shall name click with wig... clickaren
@@charlesfisher-kh5sw
With a K instead of a C, that'd be a real swedish word. Klickaren translates to 'the clicker'.
‘No man would lay hands on a toddler.’
Needed to hear this, sometimes I regret cutting off my parents but things like this remind me I made the right choice.
That "spanking" is child abuse at any age but at 4 months it can literally be fatal (shaken baby)
I've never understood how people that abuse their children and/or spouse think they're "real men" or whatever.
Yeah was beat as long as I can remember and watched my baby siblings get hit too. It sucks though cutting them off, cause there’s no replacements. Well it is what it is I suppose, working towards getting the help I need and becoming the person I want to be.
Edit: Cutting off my parents
@@ConstantChaos1 spanking isn't child abuse when done properly at an older age. Not all kids need it, and that's fine. It should be avoided when possible, but some kids need it. I certainly did, but my parents never spanked me unless necessary. I can literally count on one hand how many times it happened. When I did something wrong, my parents always explained to me why what I did was wrong and I wasn't to do it again or I would face consequences. If I did it again, they would tell me 'no tv and sweets for a week.' If I did something I *knew* was VERY wrong, then they spanked me. But not before explaining that they love me, but I keep choosing not to listen to them even after warnings. And it was very short and not very painful. Yeah, it hurts some, but what hurt more was disobeying my parents and suffering the consequences. I wasn't beaten, it was only about 3 wacks on my backside. Even afterwards, they'd let me nap and I'd eat dinner with them. Then at night, they came in and hugged me and reassured me that they loved me, then we'd say a prayer. And I always felt loved. I never felt scared or threatened. They taught me to fear the consequences rather than fear them. And I'm glad they did it, I was a stubborn and mouthy kid who needed it occasionally. Spankings aren't abuse when they're short, are the last resort, and the child knows why they're being disciplined. Like I said, not every kid needs it. I applaud those who try gentle parenting. But some kids do need it at a certain age group. After a certain age, my parents no longer spanked me because it wasn't an effective way to discipline me. Instead I had restrictions and had to write 'I will not disrespect my parents' or something like that about 100 times. When I cried, I didn't cry because it was too much, I cried because it was something that I didn't want to have to do. But that got the point across to me. Discipline, when done properly, is not abuse.
@@winniethepooht5776 imma stop you right there, spanking is child abuse, as a first responder i am trained on what is and is not child abuse and striking your child is child abuse. Stop defending reprehensible behavior and go to therapy.
Find a new hobby instead of abusing children
How the hell is this behaviour toward babies tolerated by anyone?
My dad was always so gentle and caring. Once when my sister was less than 1, had a pretty serious illness and was refusing to to take her medicine while simultaneously not being able to breath, my dad panicked and force fed her the medicine. She was shit scared of my dad for an entire year after that. My mom & dad had to help her build trust with the help of a therapist. Babies absolutely get emotional scars and its worse because they won’t remember what caused it, just the sheer feeling of terror & lack of safety 🤦🏻♀️
This. Nowhere near the same thing, but my little sister couldn't stand bananas for about 2-3 years, because one time as a baby (under 12 months) she was violently sick a little while after eating one. Next time we tried to give her some she completely refused and yeah, carried on refusing for her whole toddlerhood
@@ryan-anarchist-2535 Right! Babies are tiny recording machines. Just because they don't know how to express themselves yet doesn't mean they don't feel stuff going on & don't get affected by it.
In English, a toddler is a child old enough to walk unassisted, typically 2-3 years of age.
A four-month-old baby (or even a baby one year old) is an *infant*.
Thanks for another great video!
To go along with Click's note about mental illness:
I suffered from terrible mental health issues in the past. I was a horrifically manipulative and emotionally abusive person, and I really hurt the people I cared about. There is nothing that can justify the way I treated them. And I had no idea that what I was doing was wrong. The only thing that made me realize that I was the problem and needed to change was them outright leaving me.
It is NOT your responsibility to stay with someone if they are treating you badly. You SHOULD get out. There is absolutely no circumstance in which it is appropriate for anyone to hurt you in any way at all. They are not going to change as long as you stay with them. You cannot change them. You cannot hope that things will get better. The only thing you can do is _get away from them_ and hope that will be enough to make them realize that losing you was their fault. _You_ and _your_ mental health are more important than they could ever be.
EDIT: _Never_ listen to people who say there might be hope. You are not the exception. Your relationship will not get better if you work hard enough to save it. Your abuser will prey on your hope and use it to dig in deeper and destroy your sense of what you think you deserve. Once more, _you_ are the only person that matters in your situation. If your partner, parent or friend consistently makes you feel bad, leave. _Period._
I have a worthless piece of gatbage brother who literally is the worst of them all in my family, I can't move out yet and I slowly lose my mind time by time, but my mom always tells me to love and respect him simply because *He's my brother*. i want them to understand that I can't hold on for any longer and I honestly just want to leave before something worst happens in my household.
@@Nekaiii You come first. No one _deserves_ respect or love. They need to be worthy of it. And only you get to decide who is worthy of your love. If you can hold out long enough to move away, then you will be able to cut off the people who have hurt you. _You_ and _your_ health and wellbeing are more important than they are.
I know I'm just a stranger on the internet, but I'm proud of you for changing and realizing your mistakes. I'm sure a lot of people in the same situation would still blame everyone else and never take responsibility. Things like this restore my faith in humanity, so to speak.
I need to change too but not in the same you did. Life is much too complicated for me and I can't properly deal. 😅 So I can't imagine how hard it must've been for you to change like this.
@@AnimeRayanne It took so, so, so much work to get here. Medication helped beyond what words can describe, but I also had to learn to recognize when I am at fault and when I should give up control.
I had to relearn how to communicate, and that was definitely the hardest part. I was so used to using manipulative language to get what I wanted because something in my head told me that was the only way. I had to learn how to choose better words. I still struggle sometimes, since I have trouble speaking my mind directly and that comes out as passive aggression.
Nowadays, my thoughts are kinder and my actions are much less selfish. I am a better and happier person. Everything, _everything_ is better than it used to be. And what seems to be a reward for that hard work, I managed to reconnect with an old friend from before things went bad. He is now my closest friend and my favorite person in the world, and our friendship is the healthiest one I have ever had. He trusts me because I have become trustworthy. He makes me a better person now because I made me a better person first.
It was the hardest thing I ever did to see what was wrong with me and do what I had to to get better, but it was so, so worth it. I do truly believe people can change, but only if _they_ choose to.
Hey, a fellow reformed dirtbag! Keep up that growth mindset! It's a lot of hard work but we can always do better. Good job, friend!
I remember my mom giving me an hour long lecture about how junk food causes cancer when she found out my friend was sharing Cheez-Itz with me at school (I was 14). I'm now in my late 20s and Cheez-Itz are still one of my favorite snacks. The rebellion makes them taste better.
What Cheez-Itz do you be having for someone to think they CAUSE CANCER?
Were they digged out of a Nuclear Power generator's waste barrel?
Rebellion is a dish best served.....with cheese!
I've started immediately translating "I'm not doing this over text/messaging" to "I don't want there to be evidence."
Exactly
It depends on the people involved. The biggest fights among my friends have been people reading tones into text that were not there and getting upset about it. I had to have literal communication lectures with them and tell them that they need to start talking in person if they can't treat written words neutrally, or think they don't articulate themselves well in writing. Guess what happened? Less fighting.
If you're ever been wary regarding someone who is refusing to use messages but you do decide to go through with it, meet them somewhere public and record it on your phone to have evidence and witnesses. I've done that too. Stay safe.
Idk sometimes it really is a lot and it’s way easier to explain verbally in person or over the phone
It's easy for things such as tone to get miscommunicated in text form. Plus in person or over the phone you get additional non verbal cues that can help in understanding people and thus resolving a conflict.
I had to do this with my ex husband. He would later deny things he said in person or say he told me things that he didn't. Text or email only. A lot less abuse and fighting after we changed that.
14:29 No Click, she said 4 months. That’s not a toddler, that’s just after newborn. This man has been hitting pretty much a newborn baby. He might not plan to, but the force could’ve broken a bone, and screaming in an ear (which literally isn’t discipline by any stretch of the imagination) can cause permanent hearing loss. This isn’t a “is a father disciplining too harshly?”, he’s abusing their infant.
The money thing really bugs me. When i was younger, my parents needed to borrow money from me and my sibling to buy a car for the family. They made us little "credit checks" and made sure to pay us everything back as soon as they had the money.
My parents are the same. Everytime they need money, they take it from my wallet, but they tell me, and then later gave whatever amount they took back
You got it back? 😢
I'm so happy that you guys had such trustworthy parents 🥺💖
Same. We would help pay for groceries when things got super tough but we were always paid back, usually with a little extra. When I moved out with my own bills they stopped doing it, but I still offer to help out when I am able. That trust and respect they built with their kids has gone a long way
Edit: We were fortunate that my parents always could afford to repay. That's not the case for everyone--e.g. as a teenager my mom had to help support the family. That's not necessarily abusive as long as it is discussed openly and the parent(s) are doing their best to minimize how much work the teen has to do. It's fucked up on the societal level, tho.
Same, except I rarely got the money back. We weren’t even making too little money my mother just isn’t able to manage her finances.
On the other hand I just paid one of my dad’s bills because I have online banking and he doesn’t. I got that money back not even two days later.
Here is a tip for any parents who have screaming kids. Use earplugs while you calm them, it lowers the stress that can make you feel frustrated. Then talk with a soft voice back to them. And it allows you to keep your baby close to your body/face.
PS Just don’t go to bed with them, you need to hear them.
That's actually really good advice. It is easy enough to say to keep your voice calm and quiet, when you aren't getting screamed at in an emotional situation, but difficult in practice. I think I will buy earplugs for the next time my cat throws a tantrum 😅
Als lowering your voice makes it even better. It helped a lot when I was a teacher. 😂
This is a really good advice bruv. I'd do this when dealing with my little sister (I'm 15) because I am sensitive to sound (likely have sensorial issues due to anxiety disorder), but my parents yell at me for trying to block out sounds :/
@@moonoftheblood ohh, I feel you.
Well you’re not just blocking sound, you’re staying calmer. Found some research papers on the subject. You could go googling for that and show they. Not sure they understand you anyway though.
But good on you for helping out, and soon your sister is older and hopefully less of a noise maker. Wish you the best.
@@Oxxygen_io ayy thanks for your words man wish you the best as well
4 months isn't even a toddler. A 4 month old has just learned to hold their head up, and is learning to roll over. They're barely discovering that they're able to control their own hands.
The scary and sad thing is that those parent who smashes the kid's phone and someone gives them an emergency phone is something alarming.
I've heard stories about a person who are hella concerned on kids that they secretly give them a phone. Then in some occasion the parent finds that phone and breaks it. Those parents need to be checked up on tbh since breaking phones which is used for emergency and everyday use is a wtf and red flag moment.
Breaking anything as a way to react to disobedience will only ever teach the child to accept toxicity from others. I swear you should have to get a licence to have kids
@@jacob-rt8hv not only! For a limited time, you can also get many more side affects!
Such as...
PTSD,
Trauma,
Self harm,
Lying (for safety),
Depression,
Anxiety,
And many more!
Call now, and get all this for just one broken phone and $1.99!
What a steal!
(Seriously, what is these peoples motives??
Like, why the hell??)
I bought my little a brother a cell phone - I wanted him to be able to contact me directly at any time and I warned her that if there was a concern she could let ME know, but not take it away.
Yeah. No matter what taking my kids phone is not an option. I work nights and they need access to a phone for multiple reasons. Also no matter where they are I like being able to get a hold of them when I need to and vice versa. Also why they are allowed to take phones to school. They have to be respectful at school, dont get me wrong.
i can hide things amazingly well due to past experiences
My son is 4 months old next week. I can’t imagine what that child could even be doing to “get in trouble.” 4 month olds can barely even sit up by themselves. Wtf my guy?!?!
I remember a time when I was a cashier at a grocery store, a parent came in my line with a baby in the cart. The baby kept reaching for the bright and colorful candy, and instead of just pushing the cart a few feet forward so the baby couldn't reach it, she kept slapping its hand away. Bizarre.
She said the baby would "cry harder" when hit (like obviously) So I assume baby was crying for "no reason" in his eyes.
As for that last mom... ma'am, if you're too busy for your child to start walking, you're too busy to have a child. Time to start looking into options for getting her adopted before you do more damage
If you're too busy for your child to start walking, you're too busy to be online, for that matter.
I really appreciate when this subreddit is covered, as it helps me put into perspective that my parents were, indeed, insane; my childhood was NOT normal; and that it's perfectly reasonable that I was diagnosed with PTSD, anxiety, trust, and attachment issues in middle school. My parents (mostly my mum) raised me telling me that mental illness was either a choice, or brought on by extreme traumas which did they adopted me at 13 months old, they know full well I didn't go through anything traumatic enough to kick off a mental illness. My mum would also say, "You don't need to see a therapist because therapists only teach you to hate your mother." She also told me not to talk to anyone about my brother, one of two of her own biological sons which was nine years older than me, having sex with me when I was five years old, because, "It'll ruin the reputation of this family." She absolutely refused to talk to her kids about sex, and anything that could be even vaguely associated with sex was harshly punished, and then she was surprised when I ended up being asexual ("It's just a phase- you'll want a baby someday" - I am in my mid 30s, and DO NOT and never did want children), and she would frequently gripe that I was doing her a disservice my not turning her into a grandmother.
My Christmas present of 2017 was being "freed from the family" as she told me I wasn't her child because she wouldn't raise a child to turn out like I did. I stopped talking to her after that, and for months afterward she was dropping me voice and emails saying that she was soooo worried about me and NEEDED to hear from me that I'm alright. I am honestly quite happy to be done with that family, any these days spend my time rescuing and rehabilitating roosters that I get to cuddle every day, and honestly they give me more unconditional love and support than that family ever did.
I am happy being a crazy chicken man living in the woods. Happier than I ever was under my childhood roof.
I'm glad you're happier now. You deserved better
@@gangsterhamster2682 Thank you very much!
PS- Your screen name is wonderful, and I love it.
God birds are the best. I have a cockatiel and I would kill for him. Rehabilitating roosters sounds like a phenomenal job 😌
Im gald you got out of that living situation, somday that will be me.
@@scamperpamper6372 Thank you for your kind words. I think it's important to keep in mind that a different life is always a possibility; Lord knows it didn't always feel like it for me. Best of luck going forward- I hope your new life is able to take root sooner than later.
The post about the Woman destroying her Daughters phone is just upsetting. There should some sort of legal system to work against this.
It should not be allowed for parents to destroy their childrens stuff just because "they want to teach them a lesson". That is not teaching, that is socially unacceptable behavior.
There is.
These cases are 100% punishable under property damage laws!
Whether the parents bought the items and gave them to their kids (gift), or the kids purchased them with their own pocket money, the kid is the rightful owner of the item either way and the parents have no right to destroy them.
Problem isn't the law, it's the fact that it's very risky to sue people you're dependent on. That's a tremendously difficult step to take even for adults (eg suing their own employer), so it's practically impossible for kids.
It's so petty that she broke something for not being able to keep on being controlling of her and able to see EVERYTHING that she has on her phone. Privacy/respect is zero for her daughter, as my respect for that mom is.
@@woopyboi True to that. I'd remove that mom from earth, or at least remove the titel of "mom"
My oldest biological niece was convinced she was an adult from the age of 5yo. She was given a mobile phone when she started high school, so she could contact her parents for the ride home from school. Her phone was rightfully monitored from ages 12 to 15, because she was constantly posting sexy posed pictures and accepting friend requests from much older men who were creeping on her. It took her a long time to understand how inappropriate it was.
As someone who was not given a birth certificate despite being born in a hospital in the United States, I can tell you any parent who does this just abused their child if they are in the US. Getting one after the fact (and after I turned 18) was very difficult, and the parent who demanded I not have one was highly controlling and manipulative. He would have held me down the rest of my life if I had allowed it, and I was nearly brainwashed enough to do so.
Can I ask something? How does everything work when you don't have it? Can you get passport and/or other documents? I wouldn't be able to get my first ID if didn't bring my birth certificate in the country where I'm from...
How can a parent actually refuse a birth certificate after giving birth in a hospital. I would imagine the hospital would make up some kind of birth certificate to even just be able to say who the patients, mother and child, were that they treated. If the child was never recorded to have been born then it must have been so hard to even do the billing for it, wouldn't it?
My bio-mom nearly did this to me and my siblings. It's one of the FEW things she didn't inflict on us, and I'm grateful that out of all the therapy and issues I've had to deal with, I didn't also have to fight to get a birth cert. or SSN.
Oh god, that man beating and shouting at his baby is so upsetting. I hope that child's mother gets them both out of that situation quickly.
As a kid, my mom would borrow the money I'd get for my birthday or other gifts. Then when I'd ask for it back she'd just throw in my face everything she had given me (a roof over my head, food, clothes, etc)
So I learned to hide the money and always tell her I was broke, or try and spend it as soon as I could.
My mom would hire me out as a babysitter, or to help neighbors, & then take the money, to "keep it safe."
She would also somehow manage to buy school clothes & special occasion outfits in her size instead of mine, and then make a big show of "whoops! I guess I'll just have to get you something else," which of course never happened.
Once I had a full time job, she would empty my wallet on a regular basis. The first time she pulled that was just before Christmas, & I found out about it while out shopping for gifts.
I hide food/sweets for the same reason
Omg same💀
This one time I got beaten because she wanted to use the money my grandparents gave to me for my birthday but I had lost it (it was one bill, to this day I have no idea what happened to it).
Pretty sure I put all the hair that I lost that day in a box, half as a reminder to myself to get tf out, half because I hoped to rub it in her face some day.
Never got to but I'm out so whatever lol
@@mircallakarnstein5564 oh my god, every Halloween, I'd trick or treat for hours, and barely see any of my candy, because my parents would take it
The funny thing about the kid waking up during fun times story is that the kid apparently said "stop it guys" which implies they were annoyed about it so probably awake for awhile and the fact they said stop it instead of asking what they were doing or something like that probably means they know what's going on.
Then you grow up and realize that story was written by a kid and Reddit is toxic. Things that didn't happen. Like those cringe stupid text kids used to pretend we're from their parents or from a girlfriend/boyfriend/spouse.... Y'all are beyond gullible.
Yeah I was thinking about that
Also how old is this kid if they're already speaking and whatnot? Idk. Cosleeping at that age, especially when the parents obviously want to have ALONE time, seems fucked up
@@jacob-rt8hv the kid is 4 years old
Its stated in the beginning of the meme "our 4 year old is co-sleeping with us"
You're probably right tbh, considering how young they are I doubt they actually comprehend how messed up the situation is, but oh boy, if they remember this (which I hope they don't) that's gonna be one hell of a realization.
Plus co-sleeping every night at that age seems real weird to me even without that gross shit like seriously, literally and metaphorically GET A ROOM
Parents who yell at their kids for crying when they are getting yelled at are so weird. Like the kid crying is like the purest sign of guilt you can get out of a kid, was that not the intended outcome? YOU'VE WON! What are they supposed to do? Say "yes mother, I understand" stone faced? Just ignore you? just bury down deep to explode 10 years later? (Actually that one probably) it's happened to me when I was younger and I don't remember what I did any time it happened, just that my remorse was thrown back at me like it was even worse than whatever I had done
Trauma as a baby for sure echoes into adulthood… I hope that poor mom gets her baby away from that abusive man 😢
Also baby probably has hearing damage if he repeatedly screamed in their ear. So much about "no damage"!
It's really idiotic she thinks or tells herself her husband's abuse of the baby would do no damage, because baby won't remember it. As if babies were too young to receive emotional damage and didn't need to be protected from pain and fear, hell no! Babies are at the most vulnerable stage of their entire life, they need more protection than anyone else!
What she needs to do to teach him that spanking babies is wrong is to call CPS on him, go to a women's shelter and file a divorce ASAP!
She is asking advice on the internet because she thinks it is wrong, she won't leave sadly
It can literally kill a baby that young.
My mom can vividly describe memories she had in the hospital as an infant! Trauma absolutely stays with you forever, there is no being to young to experience it.
@@LRM12o8 Unfortunately abuse in infancy is quite likely to be one of the triggers of psychopathy in adulthood. As vital parts of the brain develop improperly as a result of the abuse.
Fun fact controlling parents: if your kid payed for their cellphone you taking it is illegal because that's property theft. And snooping on it once they turn 18 is illegal because that's invasion of privacy on a personal device.
Ps: destroying something they bought is also illegal because that's destruction of property
Yeah, but kids can't afford legal protections so the adults win by default.
Kind of. Parents have a right to temporarily confiscate devices/toys of their children as a punishment for bad behavior, but they don't have a right to permanently take it away (theft) or destroy it (property damage). Also, it doesn't matter whether the kids bought it with their own money or the parents bought it and gave it to them. The latter case is legally treated as a gift and obvs you don't have any ownership privileges on things after you gifted them to someone else.
Invasion of privacy of minors is also something that a ton of states promised to protect children against by signing the UN Declaration of Children's Rights, but I don't know if there's actually any laws against that anywhere.
@@LRM12o8 Where I live, a kid can get a job at 15+. Therefore, buy their own things at 15+. Therefore said phone is not a gift.
@@mylife-23 again, shouldn't make a difference legally whether they bought it with their own money or it was given to them by their parents. It's the child's rightful property either way.
Well, if something is given as a gift, you can't just claim it back if you feel so. Shoudln't that apply also to the items parents give to their children?
I can differ for example if the kid gets a TV to use in their room. That would be a family property, but is given for them to use. But a phone is very personal item.
A gaming console can be bought for the whole family to use, but if it is gifted to the child, then it should be theirs. I can understand if the use is limited, as kids can get carried away. But not taking completely away something that belongs to them.
When they talk about their own death just say, "Ok, why don't you go already I'm tired of waiting", shuts them up real good.
My narcissistic mother tried that with me after months of no contact. She said to me, "Well if I died tomorrow you'd be sad then." My reply, "If you died tomorrow it would be really sad, but you're going to die one day regardless. I'm going to die one day, my children are going to die one day. Nobody can stop that from happening." Her face hit the floor and she called me a bitch. Death is not a threat it is an inevitability, don't ever let anyone use it to guilt you I to anything.
I made a joke about the whole potato toxin thing and my stepmom said "well potatoes DO pull out toxins" She was serious. I don't know how I've lived this long if THAT'S what raised me.
This is painfully relatable. I hear shit my parents say and just... how did I come out of THAT...
I don't get that with my parents (thank god), but sometimes I do look at my nan and think, "How the heck did my mum turn out so well?"
Not to say I don't love my nan, we get along in our ways, but she definitely has her own issues. Plus she probably shouldn't have stayed with my grandad, they really didn't suit eachother.
My mom is super toxic but in a sneaky way : she says that " physical abuse is bad " but thinks emotional abuse doesn' t exist, guilt trips me into doing more than I agreed to, and even didn' t react at all when I got into horribly manipulative relationships and hides behind the excuse that she was friends with the families of the people who hurt me, and keeps making me feel super bad about my weight but the very next day makes us go to the restaurant and that same evening makes crêpes pancakes and waffles with jam. She also keeps getting anger outburts about nothing. Also the type of person who says " hey you wanna do this or not ? " but in a way that impies that you actually don't have a choice so when I say no she throws a fit. She also keeps using me as a venting bag for all her trauma even though she has a therapist, and I don' t understand how she doesn' t realize what' s going on.
do we have the same mom or smth?!
@@settingsun5582 I know right, mine is the same, my brother was the first one to fully run away and not come back. A few years later I met up with him and he gave me letters of well wishes to everyone. She read hers, flipped the envelope over and goes, ‘No apology and no money?!’ I have also since cut them off.
@@settingsun5582 Ikr, this is my mother in every aspect except the weight thing, she would actually get mad at us if any of us even hinted that we needed to lose weight
I hope you cut contact with her or are planning to the moment you become independent?
Sounds like my Foster parents. I got out when I turned 17 and cut all contact with them. Best decision I ever made. I'm from the UK so I don't know much about the legal system in the US but I hope you can get out as soon as you're ols enough
35:20 is pretty much the same as saying: "My child said her first word today! But I stopped her because I don't want her to backtalk me"
my mother has been saying "I'm not your friend, I'm your mother" my whole life to justify doing whatever abusive thing she feels like doing that day.
whenever I see any parent say that shit I immediately don't trust them as a person.
you can and should be both
I'm sorry about your mother. Hopefully you can get away from her as soon as possible.
Usually this kind of parents are the ones begging their child for friendship when they grow up. I'm so sorry about what happened to you and I hope you're safe and well now (also sorry for my bad english, im still learning)
My mum said it, but she's fine. She just isn't comfortable being in a place where my best friend should be. I'm with her on that.
The only moments I Tell that to my kids is when I have to enforce a boundary for their safety or health, otherwise I totaly agree with you :)
Edit: I say it if they tell me I'm no fun, not because I'm just throwing that around 😂
The phrase used to mean something good.
like "I'mm meant to raise you to be a functioning person, not give you everything you want. Sometimes I will have to step up as your parent even when you don't like it." which is a healthy way to parent, and is how you don't raise entitled little snot monsters.
but then there are parents that turn that phrase into "I'm not going to treat you with basic dignity because I've gotta show yo what the 'real world' is like" and like your mom use it as an excuse to abuse their child and it's absolutely disgusting.
Every time I think I saw the worst one in the video I am corrected... that man is physically punishing a 4 MONTH OLD BABY?? WTF I don't even know what to do with this rage, he needs to be jailed and stripped of parental rights, that is so sickening
The fact that his kids weren't taken away is sickening. He's dangerous to be around, his wife is enabling child abuse
And taking a belt to a 20 month old is right up there with that, too. It's sickening.
if your child can't understand reason, why would you hit them? if they can understand reason, why aren't you using words? there's no good reason, and physical punishment really fucks a person up later in life
Hearing about the abuse to a 4 month old and 20 month old. It’s just hurts my soul. 😢 I don’t understand how you can treat a baby like that. I make sure my kids are loved and they know we will always be there. Some people really shouldn’t be parents.
as someone who uses tracking apps for good reasons I can actually confirm that so long as all parties are not insane creatures it can be useful. I'm a minor and trans and often go on runs so me and my sister have each other on life360 so that way if im not home like 30 minutes after I normally get home she'll shoot me a message asking if im safe and if I don't respond she'll check location. we also use it when we're meeting up at a resturaunt and wanna check how far the other it.
Sounds like a perfectly reasonable use for a tracking app. As long as it stays there, then there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. This is the way
I also have Life360 and find it really useful. It's good for finding out how far away lifts are or how long until family members arrive. It's also quite interesting seeing my aunt move around the hospital she works at!
Friend of mine's parents have one because he's got super bad manic depression and had several suicide attempts before he went on medication. The only time it's used is if he's deep in an episode and leaves the house for several hours without answering his phone. They've only needed it once, and thank goodness he came home on his own after another friend talked him down from hurting himself. So the apps are helpful if used right
The difference is: this is consensual between equals
I do it directly on google with my mom because she always do more hours at work than she should and it helps me not to worry. In any way, she's alright with it and she also has mine in case she's worried as well. We have honestly nothing to keep secret and even if we would, we mostly respect each others privacy.
I've been privileged enough to have a loving and supporting family around me, and whenever we get into disagreements or I feel unhappy, I watch these videos and I feel grateful that I don't have these insane parents.
I honestly feel sorry for anyone who has to put up with these grown-up infants and I hope you can move past them because you don't need such BS in your life.
I also have a loving and supportive family and I'll probably be going to college in a few years
maybe along the way I'll be able to give someone the same advice click has given all of us and try to help someone out of an abusive relationship.
if I'm lucky there wont be a reason to do that but I can if the need ever arises
that's why I love the click
I hope everyone here has a good day, week, month, year and life💗
I had an abusive family and got mental health problems from it. Hooray.
@@bumblebeeyellowdragon damn hope you've cut them off and gotten them out of your life
@@bumblebeeyellowdragon I'm sorry you had to go through all that. But remember, you don't need people in your life who don't have your best interests at heart. Let them rot in their cradle of misery, you don't need them
I have one half that is a gorgeous, beautiful family. I just dont live with them. Or near them.
The stepmom getting angry at the kid for running 3.4 miles instead of 3.5 is just…bleh. I can imagine the stepmom is the kind of lady who has a Karen attitude and nitpicks at the smallest things just to start nonexistent problems because she’s bored and beating on her lower-downs is her favorite source of entertainment.
She would be such a fun boss.
This is the type of boss that makes you bring a laptop with the sims installed and her as the family to a work party so all your coworkers can torture her.
13:33 this is basically child abuse. The little guy is an infant, the more the poor little thing gets hit the more he is going to cry. Yelling in his little ears could cause the baby to wind up deaf. And the sad thing is that mom is letting this happen. Prayers go out to the tiny ones. 🙏
I can't help but think the mom posting this is used to abuse and doesn't even realize she's in an abusive relationship. If the father is like that it makes me fear for the mother as well. I hope she got out, with the baby.
@@maplechan34 Not necessarily. People can really be stuck in this an not be mentally able to acknowledge it. This is sadly how psychology can work.
It's literally child abuse. Spanking is physical violence, physical violence against children is child abuse.
And so is screaming into a babies ear, which is gonna cause them serious pain and can easily injure their ear, causing hearing damage. Hearing damage is permanent, those delicate hairs in the ear do not regenerate.
not basically, it is actually child abuse. Any form of aggressive or harmful approach (verbal or otherwise) towards another person is abuse. Screaming and yelling is verbal abuse. grabbing, slapping, throwing stuff at, hitting, pulling, etc. is physical abuse. Insulting, degrading, ignoring, gaslighting is emotional abuse, and touching or grazing or forcing someone to remove clothing or do things is s*xual abuse. My dad made me exercise topless when I was as young as 9(Thats around when I hit puberty and started growing rapidly in the chest). He failed to provide me with what I needed then punished me for it.
"letting it happen" is an unreasonable take. Abuse victims have a hard time leaving their situations, spousal abuse victims included. If she's reaching out like this she's on the path to getting out one day. It's super easy to demonize people you've never met who've had to endure horrors galore and put prayer hands after it, but you still look like a sanctimonious prick.
Ah, excuse me, I'm gonna hug my supportive parents before watching this, I'm always reminded how lucky I am on this subreddit
Same. And I don't like that we legit have to consider ourselves LUCKY to have had a healthy upbringing with loving and supporting parents, something that should by all means be normal but sadly isn't.
I was raised by my mother and never met my biological father. I often think how things could have been better if only he took me instead of my mom.
I have ptsd from the abuse I was raised with. Thirty and fully agoraphobic. All I want is a mom or dad to call and tell me it’s gunna be ok. Someone who really truly cares about me.
Oof yikes sorry for the trauma dump but yeah dang, hug your good parents.
@Doin Daworst Virtual hugs for you, I'm sorry that happened to you. But it will be okay, you will be able to get away from her, and you will find people that will love you and reassure you. Best wishes.
Can you give them a hug for me? They seem nice♥️
@@The_GenderLiquifier Sure, I will😊
I almost started crying when you explained the family thing, so many times I brushed off the bad things my siblings said to me because they were family, thank you for finally helping me realize it doesn’t matter. They don’t deserve to keep being in my life if they don’t give me basic respect.
My mother just went no-contact with her horribly abusive older sister (after having her own father sabotage previous efforts for over a decade), and she's never been happier. I hope you have found the same amount of joy in enforcing your own safety!
the saying "the axe may not remember, but the tree never forgot" (or something close to that ) is very telling. although in my case, all I remember of the majority of my life until age 18, is a small handful of abuses. So thankful for my brain protecting me, although PTSD is there
Very true about life in general, we don’t know what actions we take will be a core memory for somebody else. Especially for children. We have to be careful.
"the ax forgets but the tree remembers" is the version I've encountered most often
@@sarahblack9333 thank you for clarifying ☺
I have always wanted to cut my hair short because of convenience and mom complains about it... only to get disowned after having it cut short today. But I'm quite proud of myself for being able to do it... this is the first time I fully defied my mom's orders about my body. She's like the parents in this subreddit... and it's quite coincidence that TH-cam recommended this to me today. I've always been afraid of defying my mom because she would always lash out at me and threaten me. But today... today is the day I did something I truly wanted, against her wishes, and I may be disowned from today forward but I have gained a new level of confidence... something I should've really had as a normal person would (but again, mom always wants to stunt all self-esteem cause that means I'll still be forced to follow her every whim). Edit: Sorry this is too long I'm, just too happy I'm crying a bit because of joy actually.
Congratulations (I'm not being sarcastic by the way if it sounds like I am)
if that is reason enough to disown you, you should tell her that eventhough you know the hair will just grow back, your love for her will not and that it is now you who is disowning her of any future help she might need as she grows older
@@stefanforrer2573 I dont think its a good idea saying this to her mother as long as she lives in the same house.
Good for you. I hope you're able to continue embracing your own truth moving forward. If she can't handle that she doesn't deserve to be in your life.
Yo serious congrats, you deserve to be happy🥺🤩
12:30 bed sharing is often a big red flag for child abuse or neglect and having sex in the same room as a child is 100% child s3xual abuse. Like if you're doing that, your child should not be in your custody.
That mom complaining about instant ramen seems kinda delusional tbh. "Healthy foods he likes but he still complains" sound like he doesn't like them actually
Ehhhh i mean maybe? I love me some healthy food, but if I was forced to eat the same kind all the time with no or little differences (let’s say skinless chicken, rice, carrots, then the next day grilled chicken strips, mixed veggies, third day something similar) I would be complaining too.
@@SyIzumakai I can 100% see this, probably preps everything in advance so every meal for 2 weeks or more is made of the same base ingredients and probably very little seasoning.
She also sounds like someone who villianizes snacks of any kind, so no fruits, veggies, nuts, etc. That the kid can just grab.
@@SyIzumakai thats the big thing. often these controlling parents who say "healthy" pretty much are just cooking the same thing over and over often boiled vegetables etc
no variety and think having a burger or say some ramen now and again(why not make fresh noodles for them to store that way they can make their own ramen snack if you dont want them to eat instant ramen) will kill them.
And ramen isn’t even that bad. Poor kid.
@@jannetteberends8730 now and again yeah instant ramen is fine. i still eat some now as a quick lunch. throw some leftover vegetables/cooked meat i have and its a very easy lunch that still with the added vegetables has nutrition as well. kid is probably starving on these "healthy meals" the parent is cooking them. i bet she doesnt make sure everything is covered nutrition wise.
The mom stopping the toddler from walking is hilariously misguided to me. As a parent of 3 (and uncle of one who is at my house for daycare often), I know that a newly-walking toddler moves way slower than a crawling one. And they stay slower than crawling pretty much until they learn to run. If you’re tired of chasing after your toddler all the time, LET THEM WALK.
spanking a 4mo child is insane. My cousins ex would lock their then 2 and 5mo old in the closet, and rattle the door and scream at them through the door (like blood curdling, anger rage scream) "for fun", thankfully he's not in the picture anymore, and their lives are much better, but the oldest is incredibly shy and timid, and has severe abandonment issues, and the youngest FREAKS out and screams in terror when in the dark, and is super easily startled by loud noises. by physically or emotionally "punishing" (assaulting/harassing) a child that young you're genuinly conditioning them to be afraid of you and/or various situations.
dont spank babies, or scream at them. they arent capable of understanding, but are capable of being negatively affected.
I know my parents aren't the best, but it's stuff like this that make me appreciate how normal they seem in comparison.
I am unfortunately the opposite. I spent a lot of time growing up trying to convince myself they weren't that bad, and then I see posts like some of the ones in this video that I'm like "wow, that's terrible, I feel so bad for these kids" and then I realize "holy shit that's literally my mother." Luckily she never did a lot of the REALLY bad things here, but still.
@@midnight_blue_moon Hate to hear that, but even the worst of parents have one good thing in common: They set examples of how NOT to parent.
@@djdrew11 True, unfortunately I have never and will never have any interest in kids.
@@midnight_blue_moon Same.
I know that feeling my mom and dad were super trashy and wouldn't spend any money on me or my sister but they let us do whatever so I say I had it alright.
I am very happy something like screenshots and cams exist. When I was a kid a lot of abuse was simply not recorded. No one believed you, because no one would do such things and this parent has a great reputation in town. Thanks god kids can record things now.
Even than, there are some kids who dont even have access to modern technology like phones or cams, so they wont be able record the abuse they go through
The other side of it too, especially when I was growing up, any time you'd say something to an adult about what they were doing, they'd also say things like 'when I was a kid my parents beat me'. Like, uh, so because someone did it to you, it's fine? The generational attitude change, I'm really really glad more people are less willing to abuse their children now, or can't get away with it. At least among people I know.
18:25 this is like saying "hey your kid started crying so I put him up for adoption"
A 4 month old isn't a toddler. It's an infant who can't even sit up yet much less take steps or have any sense of self. Which makes that so much worse. That mother needs to take that BABY out of that situation immediately and that father needs to take classes in parenting, child development and anger managment too. I judge the mother just as much for still giving that man access to the child after the first time she witnessed the abuse.
Yeah, toddler literally implies some level of ambulatory activity. A 4 month old can barely even roll over without assistance. A toddler is a baby like 18 months-3 years when they’re walking and have some level of communication ability
@@emilybarclay8831 Yeah, that situation is just utterly disturbing and very evil. It's literally physical and emotional abuse of a tiny human who can't move, can't talk, can't understand what's happening, can't fight and can't escape. Literally and absolutely all he/she can do is cry. Which ability evolution gave so that the mother would come to save them from whatever Is distressing them. Unfortunately that mother apparently loves her husband more than she loves her baby. I hope she stepped up and made the right choices for the child after undoubtedly getting ripped a new one In the replies to that Reddit post of hers. And hopefully also some calm and good advice because she doesn't sound capable of thinking of them herself.
What's sad too is the kid could be crying because something is seriously wrong. My niece would at that age right before she had a bad seizure. Kid could be in pain, scared, hungry, feeling ill, that poor kid is being hurt for no Damm reason.
It can kill a baby that age
It genuinely is scary because you know that sort of behavior is like red flags for shit like physical abuse down the line, but more specifically, SBS.
My parents raised me eating a lot of natural foods...we went to Whole Foods a lot growing up. I used to love sleepovers because I got to splurge on junk. My cousins always had great sugary cereal. Honestly being raised that strictly when it came to food made me sway the other way as an adult. After years of 7 grain bread and natural peanut butter I now love white bread and Skippy. A lot of times that strictness backfires.
Not surprised, my mom wasn't that strict, but she would force me to eat a bowl of that water lettuce shi- often, and now I can't even look at it without feeling gross.
I'm pretty sure I struggle with watery food due to sensory things too... Never had a fruit or something that doesn't taste disgusting lmao.
Anywho, I can't eat supposedly "healthy" food is what I'm saying, and forcing it made it worse lol.
I'm grateful that my parents gave me a solid taste for more whole and healthy foods and I never learned "good foods and bad foods", but the financial rough patches and my mother trying to figure out healthy eating as I grew up (I was the firstborn) caused me to have a scarcity mindset. Sweet treats aren't "bad" to have in my mind and I know how to listen to my body's needs, but I still get so anxious and protective for fear of running out. Lately I've even been getting in fights with my younger siblings because they don't feel that fear and I do. They just run to the fridge to grab fruits and ice cream and soda and I'm always so worried that we'll run out and they had to ask for permission first.
This kinda reminds me of smth this one dietitian said about not restricting certain foods, and instead helping your child develop a healthy relationship with food or smth like that
Versly, and not saying it’s good, but I eat so much healthier now as an adult because as a neglected child, I had nothing but dollar goods and sugary trash constantly
This is a bit of a rant, but my mom is obsessed with food and being healthy and she has always been strict when ot comes to that. From a very early age she claimed that my health issues(even having simple colds) could be cured by not consuming milk and gluten, when i was diagnosed with ADHD, she even said it could be cured by etaing healthier. She put me on very strickt diets trhougout my entire childhood where i had to eat so much disgusting food, and it wasn't until doctors saw my lack of weight that they called in chikd services. I stopped going on diets at 11, because my weight was at 28kg. For the first time in my life, i got to eat normal food, and at first it felt so good, but having to gain weight is really fucking dificult as you have to eat way more food than you feel like you can take. All this had lead to me hating food, and i have developed various different eating disorders. Thanks, mom.
We were really poor as kids but our parents still gave us each a small $5 a week allowance and I was great at saving. I’d get paid for various chores too and saved up $500 at 12 yo. My mom came to me one day and told me the family was struggling. Could she use my money for bills and pay me back the next few months? I agreed. And actually made me feel all good inside 😂
It’s 100% about the principal! Ffs. Some parents 🙄🙄🙄
You have a great mom, mine ows me 850 €
Oh boy oh boy, arrived early to unpack my childhood traumas
Omg me too!
Well well well, look who it is
My personal vendetta against my blood relatives
I would be a lot less disturbed by my childhood traumas if they weren't super common.
Some people should not have children.
Well well we all came here just to remember our trauma isn't that nice...
I never mean too, some of the posts hit hard sometimes haha
So horrified, especially the toddler being pushed down while starting to stand up... Can't imagine being punished for merely growing up while being so young causing any kind of trauma at all 🤦♀🤦♀🤦♀
Time stamp?
@@Luna_tech2 35:19
@@YesJellyfish thanks
its satire. its not real.
“I hate you”
“I know”
“Good”
That literally broke my heart
A 4-month old is not a toddler; that is an _infant!_ What could an infant possibly be doing "wrong??" That mother is standing by while her baby is being abused.
When I came out as trans to my parents, they tried to accuse me of being sick or gaslight me or all sorts or horrible things. When I stopped replying, they outright disowned me, which fine. Whatever. I don't need that kind of toxicity.
I'm trans too. Every time i see a story like yours, i can't wait until i'm like 50 so i can go to pride and give trans teens the dad hugs they all deserve.
Welcome out. It's a beautiful world out here.
@@intercat4907 Oh I've been out for a couple years now.
I am a 60 year old cis white lady and I wish I could give you all mom hugs. There are older people who care and believe in you.
Felt that. My mom was convinced for a couple days that i was possessed lol
16:15 the worst part is it ISN'T the kid's property, it's technically the mother's since SHE paid for it. Sis destroyed her own property cause she needed to feel strong
Actually in the US gifts are considered a transfer of ownership meaning whether the mom payed for it or not if she gave it to her kid then it became the kid's property
My dad once told me to stop acting like a victim when I brought up the shit he put me through. He's moved past it, and therefore, I clearly just need to get over it too. Idk, I feel like I have a right to be mad until I no longer feel the need to go to therapy.
You are allowed to feel whatever you want. You are allowed to be sad, happy, angry for any reason. Just don't actually destroy a block. Your dad just doesn't want to be an effing parent. Take care of yourself before him, clearly he doesn't care about you. Remember, he WILL need you more than you need him (he will eventually need help to live well before you do)
Honestly thats textbook manipulation right there, abusers dont need to "get over" their own actions Im sorry your dad is such a terrible fucker, he is not talking from a logical standpoint as you were the one being hurt in the situation, no one gets to tell you how you feel about what happened to you
A 4 month old is a baby, not a toddler. That poor baby, heartbreaking
my mom had the same energy as that ramen lady when i was growing up. all it did was make me hide and hoard food, binge like crazy when "bad" foods were available because i didn't know when i'd see them again, and make me refuse to eat anything 'healthy' for like 5 years once i moved out. so... yeah, parents, PLEASE don't do this to your kids. i'm 27 now and only just starting to be able to work through my atrocious relationship with food.
That person who flipped out about packaged ramen is only teaching their kid to have an unhealthy relationship with food.
That just clicked for me. That kid will have no self control later
in life when it comes to food.
@@alexshinra6722 They might very well end up in a vicious cycle of binging and dieting, rather than simply eating naturally. It's incredibly dangerous to your children's health to teach them to have unhealthy or unrealistic habits regarding food. A packet of instant ramen here and there is not going to hurt your kid, but an eating disorder definitely will.
So, I was beaten as an infant, and was removed from my bio parents due to this. The husband hitting his 4 month old HAS already scarred this child. The baby will likely have an attachment disorder with the mom and siblings should they have any. They will also have PTSD, which will look like blood curdling screams, constant crying, PTSD nightmares and much more. I had PTSD nightmares until I was 5, and instead of receiving compassion, my new mom broke out the wooden spoon for my crying. If either of the 2 women with evil husband's do not separate from them immediately, their child's lives will be ruined by this.
Is the husband really more abusive than the wife? She may have told him to do it. You don't know whose initiative it is. My grandmother rarely hit me, but she routinely told her husband (my grandfather) to beat me with a belt, when I was age 3 to 8. The beatings were not his initiative, they were the product of his misguided loyalty to his narcissistic wife. She wanted to hurt me, and used any flimsy pretext she could. They stopped when I was 8, belatedly realizing that it didn't work, lol. I have high pain tolerance, low pain avoidance. Didn't cry, didn't beg for mercy. A more perceptive person would have realized this after the first episode.
@J.M. Olsen there doesn't seem to be any indication that she was telling her husband to hurt the baby. That being said, she is also responsible if she does nothing to stop him, but only if she herself is not also being abused. I specify this to explain that in the instance of her being abused, she would also be a victim and would have more difficulty leaving due to that. Most abusers teach their victims that they cannot trust others or themselves. Narcissists do the same thing. Either way, in your case, both your grandparents are abusive. She instructs him to hit you, and he complies. Also, I empathize with your experience. Even if it didn't hurt physically, it still has a high likelihood of causing trauma.
@@CardinalSin69 Sure, both of my grandparents were abusive, even if motivation was different. The big conflicts they had with me were either of spiritual nature, or about keeping up appearances. I found them non-threatening if not pleasant to deal with in some ways. I didn't develop CPTSD until age 12-13. By then my mother had remarried and moved out of her parents house. Her third husband and the disastrous public schools I was forced to attend until 16, broke the camel's back. Funny how that condition was invisible when present in working class youths. Sure, it was a while ago, me being tail end gen X. Adults in first and second world countries pick their own relationships, so there is a time when a woman can decide to acknowledge the red flags people who know her tell her about, and look for someone else rather than enter a bad news relationship. Same goes for men, obviously.
@J.M. Olsen I get what you mean. My sister, younger by 6 months, is just now getting out of an abusive relationship. I have been working with her to change the way she talks about herself and to help point out the red flags she has been missing. She was with him for 10 years, and two of her three kids are his. She was only 16 when she met him. She is now dealing with the aftermath of 10 years of physical, emotional, and mental abuse. This man is dangerous. He broke into her home several times, broke into her mother's home, has physically abused her in front of her kids, verbally abused her in front of her kids, stolen the parking pass for her apartment, and thrown an electric drill at her feet, missing and damaging her property. She has proof of the verbal abuse, and witnesses for some of the physical abuse. She brought this to a judge to get a restraining order for her kids. The judge tossed it out and told her to coparent with him.
This is why it can be so hard to actually leave your abuser. We have to keep tabs on her everyday to ensure she is ok. She has almost full custody, and wasn't sure how to put her foot down or if she was allowed to. Luckily, I am extremely persuasive, and have convinced her that she has the power in this situation and that he does not. But, I have had to talk with her for the last 6 months before she felt comfortable talking about the situation.
This is kinda why I put the exception in the OG comment. Because I am witnessing firsthand how bad it actually is, and how hard and dangerous it is to break free.
It’s very possible that the 4 month old was at risk of being killed or wind up severely brain damaged if the father escalated to shaking the child. The kid could end up with seizure disorders, paralysis, or a persistent vegetative state.
My mother is like the mom who preached about kids needing mom in life😂. She never cared for any of us and just used us to garner pity and favors from people. She’s abusive to us at home and in public acts like a good mother when she’s not.
Are you still living with her? I hope not, for your and your siblings' sake.
32:00 Had even worse family do that to me. My sister died, drowning because she attempted to save her best friend, who was the first to start drowning. She died because she reached out to help her best friend. Multiple times I've had my grandma say to me that she only died because she was drunk. This comes from the fact that my sister enjoyed a beer now and again with her friends. My family is super conservative and considers any consumption of alcohol, nicotine or anything else to be akin to stabbing them in the heart. Every time she said that, I told her to just stop talking about my sister, even if that's what she truly believes. She stopped, and then the next time would say the exact same thing again. I started warning her that I'd stop coming over if she kept saying that, but she just persisted. I eventually gave up and told her I'd never talk to her again. My aunt was over as well (her daughter), and took her mother's side in this despite pretending to care about my sister. So I cut relationships with both of them. The crux of the matter is that they were saying the only reason she tried to save her best friend from dying is that she was drunk. They're saying if she would not drink, she would stand there and watch her friend die. That is not the sister I've known all my life. That is not the person she was. Throughout the years, she kept trying to contact me, and every time I've answered, asked her what she wanted, and when she said she just wants to talk, I said I'm not interested and quoted myself saying I'd never talk to her again. Fast forward to this year - she was on her deathbed, and my cousin contacted me to tell me that she's dying. I said I'm not going. My cousin then accused me of being hateful and a horrible person and told me that I just don't want to come because my father told me not to come. My father, her son, had his own issues with her, and stopped talking to her years before I did, but somehow my grandma and aunt both poisoned my cousin against me. I had nothing against my cousin. We didn't visit each other really, but we'd say hi and chat a bit on the street when we met. Despite her not inviting me to her wedding nor to my nephew's baptism, I still felt no ill will toward my cousin. I tried to explain to her that the reason I'm not coming is because of what her mother and grandmother kept saying about my sister, and she outright denied that they would ever have said it. I'm not even given an apology here, from either of the two. I'm expected to pretend it never happened, and then be a comforting presence to someone who both tried to poison my sister's memory and successfully turned my cousin against me. My dad went to the funeral, despite his issues with his mother and even with his sister running much deeper. I'm as good as my word. I never visited her again, and I never talked to her again. I didn't go. May she rest in peace, but she was no family of mine. When my aunt's time comes, I may visit just to be there for my cousin. I never promised not to talk to my aunt again, after all. But while my grandmother kept trying to contact me, my aunt never did. Even if she did, I would never forgive her. It's not my place to forgive her. Her and her mother's slights were against my sister, who will never be able to say one way or another - but I can certainly bear a grudge to my grave for the utter, unnecessary insults on my sister's character. I'm not made of stone - if they did ask for forgiveness at any point, I might have started talking to them again. They never made the effort. For anyone who's read thus far, I'm about 10 years into my no contact policy with these two utterly toxic people. I'm much happier than I was when I made all of the effort to try and have friendly relations with them. If someone does something unforgivable to you, no matter what that is, stop trying. Let them realize what they're losing, and let them make a first step. If they never do, you know exactly how much they cared about you in the first place.
I'm sorry your family is like this, but I understand. I have the same policy on forgiveness myself.
12:36 yeah I'm one of those kids and it messed me up real bad. I'm 22 and still remember it clearly, I can't even imagine the "position" without having flashbacks and experiencing the feeling of being scared and unsafe in the dark, unable to do anything but silently cry and cover one ear while clutching my plushie with the other hand...
TLDR: don't do "adult stuff" around your kids, even if they're "asleep"
I remember this to what I was a kid, decided to go in a room when they were having some naughty times not fun
I'd like to second this, why tf is it not just a common thought apparently, wth you're an adult, behave yourself
i was im pretty sure 7 years old, i didnt know any better at the time so ignored it. im now horrified
6:34 What he just said was LITERALLY how my teacher explained how Slave owners Kept there Slaves.
This isn't a parents thing but 1 in 8 children in the USA go hungry from food insecurity. As a Canadian I have to send money to one of my girls who lives in the US because she and her mother can't afford food for an entire month despite having food stamps and a job. The situation is insane.
Yeah, but those billionaires really need their tax cuts. Won't someone please think of the billionaires?
@@PenguinLord10 Yeah it's horrible how little people think of the poor billions.
@@PenguinLord10 their yawt needs another smaller one. How can they afford it if they are just humble millionaires?
As a Canadian, Canada is no better for food security. Especially in the past few years. Particularly because transportation costs of foods are higher from the growing regions since we're farther away. Glad you're able to help her out but it's not just an American problem.
@@emeraldleece9738 Canada has food banks and community centers where you can get plenty of food. I literally use them all the time in Ontario. So yeah we are definitely more food secure because we have more freely accessible food programs.
God, the one about the husband spanking the 4 month old pisses me off so much. I did a whole research paper about why physical punishment is bad for kids (of all ages) my senior year. I did extensive research, got evidence from literal scientific journals and examples from other countries, I think I even got a 100% on my paper. When I told my mother about my research topic, she was all like "yeah sure, why don't you show me this 'evidence'" and laughed about it like I was just some bratty teenager.
So yeah, no, do not spank your kids, regardless of what age they are, but *especially* not at 4 MONTHS OLD.
Also! On the subject of the 3 year old taking care of the 1 year old, my older sister and I used to have to do that with my younger sister. It was like shortly after my parents got separated and my mom had custody, so we were mostly living with her, but she wouldn't get up early in the mornings (I will give this to her though, because she has always and to this day still has severe sleeping problems), so my older sister and I would get my younger sister up. We even somehow firgured out how to get her out of her crib. To be honest even I'm not sure how, because neither of us could reach.
There was also one day when my younger sister was a little older, probably 3 or 4, and the light in her room went out one morning, so she asked our mom to change it, but our mom told to her to change it herself. The switch ended up blowing up when she went to flip it, and she couldn't use the light for the rest of the time we lived in that house. Luckily she wasn't hurt, just freaked out.
Did you ever showed your mother the finished research paper after you had completed it? or did she pull a TL:DR?
@@voodoodummie She refused to ever read it, because she didn't want to be proven wrong.
If you ever post it anyway I'd love to read it.
@@midnight_blue_moon I want to say I am surprised, but it is rude to lie.
@@midnight_blue_moon my dad pulls the same willful ignorance constantly. Sorry you went through that
When i first started watching you, i related to the r/insaneparents the most, i heard your commentary and i was worried that it might make me selfish/entitled, but it turns out that the selfishness was just wanting basic human decency. Thank you
Growing up my wife’s father would beat the shit out of his kids,and then sit them down out tell them it was their fault they made him do it. That was a major reason why his wife divorced him while the kids were still young and he had no contact with them for years. It was also why telling her “You have to understand “ was an instant end to any conversation with her.
Aaand here they are, the adults who will forever think that their existence is to blame for everything bad in the world.
Yikes. We can't tell kids enough that nothing is their fault. It's always the adults.
Couple a years ago, my narcissistic mother became irritated and felt neglected because I was talking to my suicidal friend who was going through a divorce after 17 years of marriage. She then called me everyday because "If you can talk to him everyday for hours, then you can talk to me everyday for hours".
holy shit.. that’s. that’s awful
Hope you blocked her and that you’re low/no contact
@@Nukaturtle low contact working on no contact. Moving two states away later this year and she's amping up. And reminding me of how mentally and emotionally abusive she is.
@@shiratojin Incredibly. Then she talks bad about a friend who haven't reached out because his life went to shit when his ex cut him out of his child's life before she was even born. She mocks me for Calling him a friend and reminds me of what she considers a bad decision.
drop her like a hot pan.
My dad once called me a 'stupid onion' because I forgot to take the leftovers from dinner at their place home... and that kinda hurt, even if it's a silly insult and he didn't mean to hurt me. I can't imagine having a parent actually cuss you out. That's so brutal :(
Not a toddler but an actual infant! Deserves to be in jail and the mom is crazy to even allow it once without calling someone!
What can a 4 month old even do to warrant any punishment? Be a baby?
Because of Click I got really into ties and started wearing them. And I'm not a man, so it was never expected of me. Thank you Click for inspiring me and giving me more ideas to break gender roles :D
Breaking gender roles for the win!
You can have mine! :D Bloody useless clothing, but if you like them, knock yourself out! I am 55m, and l like linen scarves (like we wore in the late 70s). Guess things even out! :)
Oh! Cute I love that! I did for a little bit, a nice tie feels great.
@@graydanerasmussen4071 Oh fun, love a scarf moment!
💕 I can’t stop laughing about that garden cat in a tie 😹.
Its haunting to see lots of similarities from your own parents to parents like these, brings chills to me.
Exactly
I'll never understand the idiots who say things like "Should I bring my sick child to a doctor? Whatever I am and have been doing isn't working."
It doesn't just make me question their intelligence, but also their abilities as parents, as well as their logical thinking skills.
My mom sent me a text one day when I was 23 saying "YOU WANT ME DEAD! ALL YOU CARE ABOUT IS MY LIFE INSURANCE! YOU ARE DISGUSTING" because I went though a witchy phase as a teen and cursed one of her boyfriends that abused me and my brothers and who also ended up almost shooting my mom, and my mom had found the curse I wrote 7 years later in furniture she had in storage for 6 years. Like yes yes, blame the child who lives very very far away for plotting to kill you, you rational and loving parent.
18:43 suing will work as long as you are above 18 and have full ownership over the cat. It could even be a criminal charge because of theft. Also you have to be able to buy a good lawyer.
You can see how upset Click is by the fact that he completely foregoes his usually careful judgements and just outright call them out for not moving past highschool trauma (and implying they're taking it out on their kids).