Wanna know why we watch this? Because you guys keep it so real. So genuine, so off the cuff unscripted raw, silly and goofy, full of actual, human personalities that are just having FUN. It's a true joy to watch. And as sad as this may sound, it gives those of us who don't have a friend group to hang out with and play games with a little bit of that feeling. The "hanging with the homies, shooting the shit and having fun" feeling. And i know that sounds sad as fuck. But again, what you guys do is genuine enough that it actually matters to some of us and doesn't feel sad at all. It can just make exhausting, hard and cruel every day life a bit more bearable. So thank you for doing this content and keeping it real
I get that man I've got a group i played dnd with and now we all play magic and there's no biased if your winning you get hit or if i simply don't like your deck you get hit and that's what magic should be just mates playing each other having fun
I think he didn't really mean to and was just out of it and they probably decided to let him have a take back later b/c it makes no sense without some kind of recursion.
@@conker1847 I chalked it down to the fact that they were exhausted, but still wanted to point it out. I believe they said that was the 3rd vid of the day which, respect the grind, still a funny game though.
I’ve been super busy with work and college lately and these videos are so nice to watch when I’m trying to relax, the vibe is just so chill and funny so I hope yall keep up the good work
The Krosan Vorine got done dirty, killed by a double-block when it's only blockable by one creature. That nerfed Matt's ability to pick things off a bit, wonder if it made a difference.
57:48 so Drew shows a 6 mana spell, declares he's paying 5 mana? Not sure if im missing something that reduced its cost? It becomes relevant because he uses the extra mana he didnt pay in order to draw a card later AND save his best card from being provoked, which would go on to draw him much more in later turns and sneak out ahead of Matt.
Listened to what drew said only to see a sneak peak and went back to my actual watch time seeing Ryan's board go from "Hi😀" to "HELp" was fucking hilarous
didn't know that legends was creatures only! I've learned somethign today! BTW - I've just got back from my lgs's commander night, and I've got Agathas Cauldron as reward for participating, and afterwards I've bought 1 pack of commander masters set booster to celebrate it, I've opened borderless Jeveled Lotus! When I thought that was a great day, I've got notification that you've posted new video - now it's GREATES DAY :D
I couldn't remember until I saw this, but Legions was the big set when I was buying cards and playing in the early 2000's. Definitely had a sliver deck.
Legions was one of my first sets as a kid and absolutely my favorite. Akroma is still my favorite card to this day, I love Slivers to death, Phage is so iconic and unique, Mistform Ultimus was way ahead of its time, and in retrospect it's absolutely hilarious to think that they made a set that was nothing but creatures. Would've loved to have seen limited back in the day. Also: "This was around the time that Yugioh was becoming popular in the west." "Morph was in this set?" Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
You guys should change up the seating arrangement. I figure Matt doesn't attack Charlie that much cause he loves him, (and Drew is more experienced, and more experienced players who help new players often let themselves be killed) but I figure he goes after Drew more often simply for sitting right across from him making the eye fall more naturally on Drew than on Charlie.
Bane of the Living is more of a Meathook Massacre than it is a Toxic Deluge. TD pays life and costs 2B, Meathook has the same cost as the morph cost with the same effect. BotL just lacks the life gain/loss effects.
You guys should do a progression series (shoutout Cimo and the Yugioh community) where you use cards you’ve pulled throughout this series to keep upgrading your decks until all sets have been added to the pool
So with Magma Sliver on the board, Provoke can't actually force other Slivers to die in combat. Provoke is an attack trigger. Players also get priority after attackers are declared, after Provoke triggers resolve, and before the declare blockers step. So players can activate their slivers' Magma Sliver ability to tap itself down before declare blockers. And because tapped creatures are not able to block, it effectively dodges the Provoke ability since Provoke only says the target creature blocks "if able." There's a reason Provoke has basically never been reprinted; it's a terribly designed ability that honestly doesn't work nearly as well as you'd think. So Drew could've saved his Shifting Sliver by activating its ability to tap it down and make it unable to block. From there I'm pretty sure he could've killed Charlie on his turn since Charlie's only slivers were tapped by then. In other words, I think Drew missed lethal twice lol.
you missed the part where provoke untaps the target edit: I read more about it and if I understood correctly, even if you can declare a blocker and tap it for an ability while still having it block, tapping a provoked creature before declaring blockers removes it from blocking anyway. why did they make it this way?
@@fiendfi7119 It's not removing it from blocking; the creature never blocks at all because it legally can't block if you tap it down before blockers are declared. This gets super nitty-gritty into the rules. The Combat Phase is actually broken down into distinct steps/mini-phases and players get priority between each step. It goes start of combat" > priority passes > declare attackers > priority passes > declare blockers > priority passes > combat damage. On top of that, priority also passes after spells and abilities resolve per Comprehensive Rule 117.3b. So you can activate the Magma Sliver ability to tap it back down BEFORE the declare blocker step even starts. Essentially, what happens is this: Charlie declares attackers. Provoke trigger goes on the stack. Drew gets to respond (and does nothing). Provoke resolves, untapping the Shifting Sliver. Charlie gets priority again, he passes priority to Drew. Drew can now activate the Magma Sliver's ability with the Shifting Sliver and tap it down as part of the activation cost for the Magma Sliver's ability. Charlie (as the active player) regains priority once the ability resolves. Assuming no more ability activations, everyone passes priority. NOW the game proceeds to the declare blockers step. Because the Shifting Sliver is tapped, it is legally not able to block and cannot block. (Provoke does not trigger again, because it only triggers on attack.) The fact that Provoke can interact very unintuitively with the rules (as shown here) is one reason why it has never been reprinted after Legions. (The primary reason is because the Fight mechanic basically does what it's intended to do without weird interactions like the above.)
One hour 30 video of king making Charlie hey ? I must say, that wasn't really funny to watch. The bullying was... Weird ? Off putting at least. Also Charlie's doing some wacky shit like casting his commander from the "command zone" after he declared it going to the graveyard. Just weird all around. Also Matt questionning the stack makes me think about my mono-red dragon player, no interaction guy in my pod c: So cute that he believes the stack to be his ennemy/bad !
Matt (and Charlie to a lesser extent) is at such a weird in-between place in his magic knowledge where he is seasoned enough to interpret old rules text as modern keywords ("Reach") but still somehow new enough to not fully grasp how combat works (tapping blocking creatures for abilities). I feel like he is learning things backwards from how I learned them so it's really hard to figure out what's going through his mind during the game and what he sees on board and what completely flies over his head. Confusing, but undoubtedly entertaining to observe.
Im pretty new to magic, for me i found that i actually had to put effort into learning keywords early on mostly in order to not have to keep asking what (blank) does every time someone plays a card (or letting the table know i have a goad card in hand when i ask how it works for the millionth time). For me a lot of the common mistakes like tapping to block or trying to play sorcery at instant speed and that kind of thing came from the rules sometimes feeling unintuitive before making the same mistake enough times to finally remember. It wasnt until i got to a point where i was making my own decks that i started to feel like i wasnt making those minor mistakes as much. Kinda like learning chess where most pieces move in straightforward ways so you get used to that but then out of nowhere you have the knight doing L shapes which makes you have to think about where it is allowed to move more than you would with a pawn
Wasn't Charlie supposed to have 12 points? I am little confused because they said he got those points from the Fallout mtg box but I don't see a video on it anywhere.
After watching 39 minutes, couldn’t they buff the slivers after blockers are declared and just make an omega sliver from the other slivers that can be tapped to buff another sliver?
I found a problem: drew played a sliver that says slivers can only be blocked by other slivers, Charlie’s flyer should have untapped, but not blocked it Edit: at 35:23
2:33 Over twenty years later I still remember that's a Riptide Mangler - yet I forget the most basic shit on the daily. Cheers brain 1:01:00 Hi Ryan :)
Ryan I felt bad 3v1 what can u do. Your awsome. The whole moist team is great u guys make awesome content . I just got back into magic while playing one piece. N I'm lovein it. Keep up the great work. Sliver did work
since the rules say that at the end the person with the most points gets to decide who the best magic player in the world is, does that mean they can pick anybody?
Ryan watching the hour of sliver soup doing nothing made me sad
Hope he wins the next one because of this
ryan is the best hes handsome and wise and kind
Right?? As soon as he was ganged up on, I checked the time stamp and literally shook my head.
It breaks my heart watching Ryan get taken out so fast all the time then they just let Charlie live the whole game. If Ryan has no fans I am dead.
To be fair in this one it was his own fault by having two anti fun commanders.
Ryan needs a revenge arc where he kills someone with Phage
oh hes killed ALOT of people (in MTG)
Like irl
He sneaks up behind you with phage and suffocates you
He should make a silly phage combo deck where he gives a copy to everyone else so they lose
I got a feeling my GOAT Matts got this one.
We got a Matt main over here lmao
@@zanelunsford3978although he's glazing he's true
SAAAME 💪
Matt mains rise up
matts mad friggin rad
Charlie calling the gorgonites the villain in small soldiers is wild.
Ryan has the composure of a god. I dislike slivers on a good day. But at 29:23 I would have started to throw my poo around the table like a monkey.
Charlie secretly playing slivers is hilarious
"straight"
Little unfortunate for Ryan but 3 sliver players v 1 non sliver player it was inevitable 🤣
Its insane that they are targetting matt when charlie has like 19 creatures on board and untaping every upkeep.
He literally made that his commander cause everyone's else's deck was so much better lol
seedborn muse makes you untap your permanents every untap step not every upkeep :)
@@destroyere.l.9324holy shit give it a rest sherlock
@@walleuchiha8901 just tryna be helpfull
Wanna know why we watch this? Because you guys keep it so real. So genuine, so off the cuff unscripted raw, silly and goofy, full of actual, human personalities that are just having FUN. It's a true joy to watch.
And as sad as this may sound, it gives those of us who don't have a friend group to hang out with and play games with a little bit of that feeling. The "hanging with the homies, shooting the shit and having fun" feeling. And i know that sounds sad as fuck. But again, what you guys do is genuine enough that it actually matters to some of us and doesn't feel sad at all. It can just make exhausting, hard and cruel every day life a bit more bearable.
So thank you for doing this content and keeping it real
Oh. I watch cuz Ryan is cutie.
as someone who refuses to go out and socialize and who's friends moved away years ago..i feel this lol
I get that man I've got a group i played dnd with and now we all play magic and there's no biased if your winning you get hit or if i simply don't like your deck you get hit and that's what magic should be just mates playing each other having fun
Matt appreciation post, comeback starts now
35:26 provoke says the creature must block if able and one of the slivers I forget which says slivers can only be blocked by other slivers
I was thinking the same thing
1:21:43
It was at this Moment Charlie put Akroma in the Graveyard and declared it, only to Cast her again from Command Zone. RIP Drew's Win.
I think he didn't really mean to and was just out of it and they probably decided to let him have a take back later b/c it makes no sense without some kind of recursion.
@@conker1847 I chalked it down to the fact that they were exhausted, but still wanted to point it out. I believe they said that was the 3rd vid of the day which, respect the grind, still a funny game though.
I rewatched Small Soldiers this summer. Happy to say it still holds up today.
oh fuck yea dude its so solid
Ryan got done dirty
I’ve been super busy with work and college lately and these videos are so nice to watch when I’m trying to relax, the vibe is just so chill and funny so I hope yall keep up the good work
1:02:00 From the rules: There's no requirement for the provoked creature to be tapped or to be able to block.
Archer of the gorgonites is in fact not the villain but the hero. I can't let that slander slide.
Charlie missing his seedborn trigger almost every single turn hurt my soul lmao
Im not a MTG player (yugioh player) and found this channel becuase of The Professor guest appearance. Love the channel and Matt is goated
The Krosan Vorine got done dirty, killed by a double-block when it's only blockable by one creature. That nerfed Matt's ability to pick things off a bit, wonder if it made a difference.
Whichever judges were watching over the table for this game didn’t give any f*cks about Matt understanding his cards
15:43
Matt "I can't tap that though, it's got"
Hivemind "S U M M O N I N G S I C K N E S S"
ryan is very communicative
55:05 berserk murlodont is giving all of your beasts Rampage 1, not bushido, as bushido also triggers when it blocks
57:48 so Drew shows a 6 mana spell, declares he's paying 5 mana? Not sure if im missing something that reduced its cost? It becomes relevant because he uses the extra mana he didnt pay in order to draw a card later AND save his best card from being provoked, which would go on to draw him much more in later turns and sneak out ahead of Matt.
Listened to what drew said only to see a sneak peak and went back to my actual watch time seeing Ryan's board go from "Hi😀" to "HELp" was fucking hilarous
Games without ooooo don't hit the same. GOATED commander
This is the saltiest I have seen Charlie in a match. That provoke rubbed him the wrong way lol.
At this point Charlie and Matt should split the points if one of them win
didn't know that legends was creatures only! I've learned somethign today! BTW - I've just got back from my lgs's commander night, and I've got Agathas Cauldron as reward for participating, and afterwards I've bought 1 pack of commander masters set booster to celebrate it, I've opened borderless Jeveled Lotus! When I thought that was a great day, I've got notification that you've posted new video - now it's GREATES DAY :D
You guys should make a box brawl Playlist so the storyline can be truly appreciated
49:02 it says only damage to you. I think?
I think you choose the source dealing damage to you directly and then it deals to beacon instead.
Ah they caught it. Never mind.
1:07:22 can’t be blocked by more than one creature.
Yeah pretty lame that they all targeted Ryan like that, kinda disappointed about this video :(
This video made the perfect background noise for painting warhammer minis
is there a video with the fallout cards i missed? at 11:12 the caption mentions fallout brawl but i can't see the video anywhere
I couldn't remember until I saw this, but Legions was the big set when I was buying cards and playing in the early 2000's. Definitely had a sliver deck.
Stopped by to say: WHY CANT I BUY A PINK SKILL CHECK PLAYMAT YET? that is all
Same I want one so bad
In the pokemon stream they talked about merch on the horizon
agree i want a skill check mat asap
Legions was one of my first sets as a kid and absolutely my favorite. Akroma is still my favorite card to this day, I love Slivers to death, Phage is so iconic and unique, Mistform Ultimus was way ahead of its time, and in retrospect it's absolutely hilarious to think that they made a set that was nothing but creatures. Would've loved to have seen limited back in the day.
Also:
"This was around the time that Yugioh was becoming popular in the west."
"Morph was in this set?"
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I would love to build a "Provoke" commander deck if there were more than 9 cards.
I love Strixhaven so much. It's one of my favorite newer Magic sets. Can't wait to see you all hopefully get a legendary finally lmao.
You guys should change up the seating arrangement. I figure Matt doesn't attack Charlie that much cause he loves him, (and Drew is more experienced, and more experienced players who help new players often let themselves be killed) but I figure he goes after Drew more often simply for sitting right across from him making the eye fall more naturally on Drew than on Charlie.
I knew I liked you people for a reason lol small soldiers is one of the best movies ever 😭💚
watching this game has deepened my gratitude for sorceries and enchantments being in the game
Charlie calling Archer leader of the gorgonites a villain hurt my soul
quick misplay at 1:02, Provoke resolves and then untaps and it has to block, it does not untap on Target.
Provoke resolves and untaps it. Once that is done, he can tap the creature again, meaning that it cannot block.
CHARLIE DID YOU JUST CALL THE GORGONITES THE VILLIANS
i picked that up as well, ARCHER IS THE HERO
I wish there was a playlist on the channel with all the Box Brawls in order. It's hard to find them all
My brother and I started playing with legions, games would take hours
Fully expected Charlie to pump that hunter into a commander damage kill
I'M PISSED lol ya'll hated on my boy Ryan HARRDDD !
1:04:51 Ryan's "what did you call me?" was perfectly executed 😂
Who makes these intros? They are super cool
I don’t even understand magic I just come for the friendship and memes
Love the box breaks . Wish i have the funds and friends to do this. Fun to watch =D
Magic sets used to come out in blocks. Thats why this set only had creatures
I too play with only creatures, Matt. It's okay
I don't know where it ended up, but I used to have "Swat" which was a card that mentioned Phage.
Lol poor Ryan 😂😂😂😂😂
Bane of the Living is more of a Meathook Massacre than it is a Toxic Deluge. TD pays life and costs 2B, Meathook has the same cost as the morph cost with the same effect. BotL just lacks the life gain/loss effects.
You guys should do a progression series (shoutout Cimo and the Yugioh community) where you use cards you’ve pulled throughout this series to keep upgrading your decks until all sets have been added to the pool
What background music do you guys use? I love it!
I don't think matt could provoke the flyer because slivers could only be block by slivers let me know if i am mistaken
35:20 wasn't there a sliver down that said all slivers cannot be blocked by non slivers does provoke still make it block?
I was looking for this comment lol
So with Magma Sliver on the board, Provoke can't actually force other Slivers to die in combat. Provoke is an attack trigger. Players also get priority after attackers are declared, after Provoke triggers resolve, and before the declare blockers step. So players can activate their slivers' Magma Sliver ability to tap itself down before declare blockers. And because tapped creatures are not able to block, it effectively dodges the Provoke ability since Provoke only says the target creature blocks "if able." There's a reason Provoke has basically never been reprinted; it's a terribly designed ability that honestly doesn't work nearly as well as you'd think.
So Drew could've saved his Shifting Sliver by activating its ability to tap it down and make it unable to block. From there I'm pretty sure he could've killed Charlie on his turn since Charlie's only slivers were tapped by then. In other words, I think Drew missed lethal twice lol.
you missed the part where provoke untaps the target
edit: I read more about it and if I understood correctly, even if you can declare a blocker and tap it for an ability while still having it block, tapping a provoked creature before declaring blockers removes it from blocking anyway. why did they make it this way?
@@fiendfi7119 It's not removing it from blocking; the creature never blocks at all because it legally can't block if you tap it down before blockers are declared. This gets super nitty-gritty into the rules.
The Combat Phase is actually broken down into distinct steps/mini-phases and players get priority between each step. It goes start of combat" > priority passes > declare attackers > priority passes > declare blockers > priority passes > combat damage. On top of that, priority also passes after spells and abilities resolve per Comprehensive Rule 117.3b. So you can activate the Magma Sliver ability to tap it back down BEFORE the declare blocker step even starts.
Essentially, what happens is this:
Charlie declares attackers. Provoke trigger goes on the stack. Drew gets to respond (and does nothing). Provoke resolves, untapping the Shifting Sliver. Charlie gets priority again, he passes priority to Drew. Drew can now activate the Magma Sliver's ability with the Shifting Sliver and tap it down as part of the activation cost for the Magma Sliver's ability. Charlie (as the active player) regains priority once the ability resolves. Assuming no more ability activations, everyone passes priority. NOW the game proceeds to the declare blockers step. Because the Shifting Sliver is tapped, it is legally not able to block and cannot block. (Provoke does not trigger again, because it only triggers on attack.)
The fact that Provoke can interact very unintuitively with the rules (as shown here) is one reason why it has never been reprinted after Legions. (The primary reason is because the Fight mechanic basically does what it's intended to do without weird interactions like the above.)
I love this concept. Did they do any more prior to this?
Charlie misremembering Archer as the villain instead of the Emissary of the Gorgonites in Small Soldiers is such a misjudgment of his character.
Do you guys count unglued as a playable set
One hour 30 video of king making Charlie hey ? I must say, that wasn't really funny to watch. The bullying was... Weird ? Off putting at least.
Also Charlie's doing some wacky shit like casting his commander from the "command zone" after he declared it going to the graveyard. Just weird all around.
Also Matt questionning the stack makes me think about my mono-red dragon player, no interaction guy in my pod c: So cute that he believes the stack to be his ennemy/bad !
1:02:00 this isnt how the stack interacts with provoke, right?
It is. Provoke can't force you to block if you have a way to tap the creature.
This game quickly became the bar scene from inglorious bastards REALLY QUICKLY.
Love the video like always guys your killing it
Woah, functioning audio this time, a true miracle.
39:17, I’m not sure if anybody else caught this, but Matt payed 6 mana to morph a creature (and declared the cards identity, but that’s obvious).
His sliver couldnt be blocked except by slivers so provoke wouldn't have worked aaaaaaahhhhh
LOOK WHAT THEY DID TO MY O DAWG 😭😭
Matt (and Charlie to a lesser extent) is at such a weird in-between place in his magic knowledge where he is seasoned enough to interpret old rules text as modern keywords ("Reach") but still somehow new enough to not fully grasp how combat works (tapping blocking creatures for abilities). I feel like he is learning things backwards from how I learned them so it's really hard to figure out what's going through his mind during the game and what he sees on board and what completely flies over his head. Confusing, but undoubtedly entertaining to observe.
Im pretty new to magic, for me i found that i actually had to put effort into learning keywords early on mostly in order to not have to keep asking what (blank) does every time someone plays a card (or letting the table know i have a goad card in hand when i ask how it works for the millionth time). For me a lot of the common mistakes like tapping to block or trying to play sorcery at instant speed and that kind of thing came from the rules sometimes feeling unintuitive before making the same mistake enough times to finally remember. It wasnt until i got to a point where i was making my own decks that i started to feel like i wasnt making those minor mistakes as much. Kinda like learning chess where most pieces move in straightforward ways so you get used to that but then out of nowhere you have the knight doing L shapes which makes you have to think about where it is allowed to move more than you would with a pawn
Wasn't Charlie supposed to have 12 points? I am little confused because they said he got those points from the Fallout mtg box but I don't see a video on it anywhere.
with every loss Brandon, add an Armageddon to a deck 🤣
Slivers was my first Commander deck since pulled a First sliver
yeeahh one of my childhood sets. pulled a Phage as a kid, always wanted Akroma
damn, you all really did him like that
My Phage deck is one of my favorite commanders, plus I can always go out on my own terms with it
The second Ryan pointed out that the damage has to go to Charlie and cannot save his ramp elf, Charlie thought "glad we killed you first".
Wait, wouldn't provoke + "All slivers can't be blocked except by slivers" mean you can't provoke any non-slivers?
After turn 2 if I were in Ryan's position, I would've legit just scooped.
After watching 39 minutes, couldn’t they buff the slivers after blockers are declared and just make an omega sliver from the other slivers that can be tapped to buff another sliver?
I found a problem: drew played a sliver that says slivers can only be blocked by other slivers, Charlie’s flyer should have untapped, but not blocked it
Edit: at 35:23
2:33 Over twenty years later I still remember that's a Riptide Mangler - yet I forget the most basic shit on the daily. Cheers brain
1:01:00 Hi Ryan :)
Ryan I felt bad 3v1 what can u do. Your awsome. The whole moist team is great u guys make awesome content . I just got back into magic while playing one piece. N I'm lovein it. Keep up the great work. Sliver did work
since the rules say that at the end the person with the most points gets to decide who the best magic player in the world is, does that mean they can pick anybody?
Drew not provoking the reach sent me
if your doing all editions of magic does that mean you'll do an alpha set commander
Best video ever!
Afterwards they should make a deck out of each complete box and play against some of their other decks
Ah yes, Onslaught block, the block where you just drafted a bunch of colorless 2/2s for 3 that sometimes also blew your opponent out. Good times.
did charlie just call that man the villian of small soldiers??!!!!
1:00:55 - Hi Ryan! :)
it's funny cause the simpler magic made these guys talk through plays and effects more in depth than with any of the new word salad magic
They’re all playing Joey type decks from yugioh lol