@@cityofgarlic4088 it looks like a t1c minimalist holster. I have one and I didn't like it personally. Great quality but the design isn't my preference. I prefer JM custom holsters because they give you a long option. I got a g42 holster from them but it's the length of a g17. Keeps it much more stable whole allowing for a solid, repeatable master grip.
Please Shawn bring Travis Haley on for his amazing story on the battle of the Black water MD530 Little Bird helicopters based out of the Green Zone in Baghdad, Iraq. On April 4th 2004 "444" they were called into Al-Najaf to support and evacuate a stranded team.
@@LP3me yeah I have, actually, watched the Travis Kennedy episode a few times, and a few more multiple times. I listen to them while I work, so sometimes I miss certain things
Agreed, so often I find myself picking up more details by watching/listening things a second time.. I did. that with the Every Day Spy episode, guess what, packing up the kids and moving to Paraguay soon 🤣
The “always treat a gun as if it’s loaded” is a pet peeve of mine. I have a buddy that I refuse to shoot with because he’s flagged me multiple times. Shooters don’t be afraid to avoid unsafe shooters. Great issue that you discussed here.
Good point... also I do NOT go to shooting ranges with friends/family that don't wear their seat belt while driving. If they don't take their own safety seriously, then they won't take yours seriously either.
What he says at a gun shop is so true. I used to work at a gun shop and I have had people point loaded guns at me.. Where I worked a woman who bought a gun and said no to training took a browning hi power to the range and shot it, then left it loaded and was trying to put it in a zip up case and it was a rug inside the case and it started to fall and she grabbed it and hit the trigger (it was off safe of course) and her thumb hit the trigger with the barrel pointed at her and she shot herself. She was awake and alive when the ambulance got there and took her, and sadly she died that night.. I had an older lady come into the store one time with a ww2 nazi berretta I believe it was in .32 acp and she didn't know anything about guns and she handed me the gun and said she was cleaning her grandfathers house out after he died and she just wanted to get rid of it. She handed me the gun pointing it at me, and the magazine was separate, and unloaded, but there was a round in the chamber. OMG I was upset, but told her to never grab a gun if she didn't want to learn about them. It's not that hard. Treat all guns as if they are loaded! Never point a gun at anything you're not willing to destroy. Keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to shoot.. You have to break all three to have an accident.
A thousand percent. I don't care if someone is going as physically slow and deliberate as a snail! I still will move slow if I feel less confident for whatever reason. We've got to understand this isn't the wrench you handed your Dad a couple times!
When I was in the military, we had a class where we used dummy guns and had another person push the firearm off to the side while we had it at the ready, then they would act as if they were going to push it but wouldn’t and that same anticipation would occur and people would move the gun off to the side as if it was pushed. Was really interesting to see that subconscious movement get pulled to the surface like that.
Shawn, I watched the 4 part series with John Lovell and now the edc video. I have enjoyed all of your guests on and love your channel. But must admit these videos with John were my favorite. I could have listened to additional hours and hours with him. Thank you to you and John for alll you have done and are doing for this community.
Great interview. I've watched the entire series of interviews with John. What an inspirational man. I have to say that yourself, Mike Glover and John are truly a blessing to our community. Plenty of other guys put out some nice content but you guys I just mentioned are in another league. Thank you
I worked at a Pawn Store and had to work at the gun counter frequently....a 55 yr old woman, 115 lbs soaking wet, and not overly strong😅 and many older rifles/shotguns seemed as big as I am. Muzzle Safety, ammo check always #1. I never got my a•• chewed, but I'm sure my boss had some good laughs watching me from home via surveillance. That was a great job!!!
Hell ya I’ve been watching WPS forever. Awesome to see you two collab. As an aside, 9:16 that exact situation happened to me recently. Older gentleman checking out a S&W M&P Shield 9 and flagged just about everyone in the shop. I was pretty close to losing my temper but was able to keep it reasonably cool and yell “muzzle!” at him until he fixed himself. Gun owners that don’t take safety and training seriously are a major plague on the gun community. I’ve found the issue is especially prevalent among fudds who think they know what they’re doing simply because they’ve owned guns forever. Experience doesn’t equal competency. Guns are are tools and can be extremely dangerous in the hands of people who are ignorant to the fact that they’re ignorant. Or they haven’t honestly checked their ego enough to accept they’re not as competent as they think they are.
I agree with what John said. Get some training and practice every chance you are given, so when a bad situation arises you are prepared. You can never overtrain yourself with any firearm. Be prepared
@@elijah4606 if it's gifted across state lines, a federal background check by a registered firearms dealer is still legally required. Wouldn't recommend being an asshole if you don't fully understand what you're talking about.
I hate to say it, But I have been flagged at training courses by more police officers and ex military guys and people that grew up around firearms way more than any civilians at a very popular course that blew up after being on here. Our instructor day 2 told all the cops and military guys that missed day 1 because it wasn’t the fighter course that they have big shoes to fill because all of us civilians were super serious and safe. More experienced guys kept getting reminders to not point their guns at me specifically while my back was turned and I was running the course or walking off the line with hot weapons. And pointing it at the class while they’re finding out their weapon is hot. Be Safe guys! Watch your 6 and have a buddy do it while you’re running courses! Because it’s not just cops that wanna go home safe! It’s all of us! Thanks Shawn for doing this with John. You guys are my favorite instructors and content creators in this space
I've taken less than a handful of classes since I got out of the military a decade ago and every instructor has closed with some variation of telling the students that the class is not the end all be all and to take the lessons learned and continue to practice them.
Farmers EDC: leatherman tool, VFD pager, wallet, .22 ruger with red dot for varmints. Mostly the 4-legged kind. Was picking up the 2-legged kind coming in from Canada with the thermal while coyote hunting last winter
I was a batt boy and went to teams. I carry G17. My brother was a 3rd batt boy. He has 10 competition pistols, but he also carries a G17. 19 rounds, never jams, never misses.
So I just took the plunge very recently and I originally "zeroed" my rds so it sat "a little above" my front sight(think lower 1/3). Set this in my basement. First range trip, having never actually fired a round, that dot was creepy on-point. It's a good enough "zero" for me that I can make hits at 25y with very little effort,much faster. It really is almost a cheat code imo
The first time I used one i hit the target everytime, I really like red dots though if I ever get to order the Nighthawk 1911 I want I'm still getting it with irons.
Don't go to the range to get good with a red dot. Empty the gun, put a piece of blue painters tape on the wall, and practice drawing and getting the red dot to land on it. No need to waste ammo at a range to get that part correct.
Good man. Been carrying since 2015, and the wife started carrying soon after, and both vehicles have a full medical kit. Thank goodness I haven't needed to use them, but always ready to protect.
Another delight to hear yet another accomplished and proven professional discuss the important issues concerning firearms and the big safety issues. As a 26-year UK military veteran I have great respect for your constitutionally protected rights to bear arms. I am fortunate enough to believe that after my service, I recognised that the threat level that once existed to my live and that of my family didn't necessarily require the need for a firearm for personal protection 24/365 and so I somewhat reluctantly surrendered that particular right. UK life in general a d thankfully doesn't have the level of threat that may exist in the US, but that being said, the access to guns by criminals/terrorists, the every increasing threat of militant extremism and organisations hell bent on murder and mayhem within our borders, I hope I'm wrong, but it may make me regret my decisions. Good luck Shawn and to all your guests, keep safe.
I can shoot with a red dot but my EDC is my G19x and I actually love the night sights that came with it alot more than a red dot... when out in public its obviously my main fighting tool but other than that it's my sidearm and my AR15 platform is my main fighting tool so having a red dot on the G19x seems a little excessive especially since it's meant to be a back up for close engagements.. I'm a usmc vet who spent my whole enlistment in 3rd recon and 2nd marsoc/msog so I can shoot my G19x extremely well but I'm still more proficient with my rifle in any situation. I have a 16" 1:8twist diamondback AR15 with a sig sauer romeo MSR red dot and a 3x magnifier.. I also have a nice magpul grip with a battery compartment along with a nice hogue buttstock a 12" quad picatany rail. A surefire flashlight with an optic flip cover on it as well as a forward grip and an adjustable 2 point tacticon ranger green sling... I also have front and rear flip up irons and I use M855 62g green tip 5.56NATO ammo out of that rifle...
S&W model 69 with crimson trace grips, I live in bear country and do a lot of fly fishing ....75th Ranger Reg , 101st Lrsd 311th mi, Rangers lead the way!
John seems to be a smart minimalist, thought out, not necessarily carrying the cool gear but what he is comfortable with. Carries med gear, not everyone does. I watch so many channels pushing to carry so much gear, John favors the essentials, I like that and shows hes not paranoid like so many gun guys saying things like "you need to keep a gun in the shower with you" or "you need a back up gun and 4 mags, 2 med kits, bear spray.... blah blah blah, at the end of the day your exhausted. Ive come to a similar place in my carry, not that I didn't go through the "prepare for Red Dawn EDC" myself but now I think, knowing I'm not John Wick I carry what is practical "for me" to get me and mine through a bad situation and get us past danger and to a better place.
I had the same thing happen to me lately at the gunshop...dude pointed the rifle directly at me and before i could say anything the owner of the gunshop grabbed the bing bang and told the guy ``never point a firearm at anything or anyone u arent ready to shoot and treat all firearms as if they are loaded''.
In the gun community these are the two men I based my kit off of. Even overseas in contracting, they were how I did my setup and took my approach. Two legends in my humble opinion.
Many years ago i took a friend to a local range and was teaching him basics of shooting. Nearby, a couple lanes over, a group of college age kids (we live in a major college town) were taking turns shooting their rental guns, typical stuff everyone gets to try out when they're new. Then they got to the desert eagle. One of them, a young British guy (obvious by his accent) finished his turn and ejected the magazine but failed to eject the live .44 magnum round from the chamber and held it just like the guy in John's gun shop story, pointed at me. I had been paying enough attention to know it was still loaded and called out to him saying "hey man, can you not point that over here? " and he smugly smirked and told me it wasn't loaded. My response took the all the attitude right out of him, raising my voice a bit: "if you don't want me to point mine at you, then don't point yours at me". I saw the lightbulb turn on and he set the deagle down and hid behind the group.
My favourite type of EDC videos; seeing what guys with the a particular type of experience carry even though I can’t carry most of what they carry haha 🇬🇧
I wish something would click for my wife! This has been one of the top 3 interviews you’ve even done!! I couldn’t watch it all at once sadly!! You 2 should shoot together on day on John’s channel???
lol I love John been following him on here for years. And Shawn you've been taking it next level this year, literally. I respect that deeply, fight the good fight. Much love and respect to you both from Sweden.
Don't become solely reliant on red dots and CCO's. Train with iron sights occasionally. In case things go south. Remember Delta, at their inception, used iron sights and were the early masters of front sight focus. We still train third world troops advanced marksmanship using iron sights and they become very effective with it.
Yes. Buddy of mine went hard into red dots recently and is shifting back to irons. As an additional element of potential failure, he noted going from air conditioned office to 100 degree outside it fogging up, the occasional seeing the red dot through the shirt. Those were just two pieces of insight that I found really interesting. For me, irons all day.
I'm a spiderco guy when it comes to edc knives I carry the spiderco military full size, as far as medical some quick clot and lidocaine, benzocaine , a piece of plastic wrap , some hard candy......75th Ranger reg ,101st lrsd 311th mi bn, Rangers lead the way!
This discussion was right on. I’ve had carry permits forever. But I don’t carry all the time. Work says no, safe spaces, safe neighborhood, clothes in a hot location…just so many excuses. My bad for sure. House is locked down. Guns positioned, etc. I need to be better outside of the house. Good discussion.
Random plug for HOIST Rehydration drinks. The bottle proclaims "IV level hydration." Myself, I've never drank other rehydration specific drinks. On a whim, I purchased Hoist drinks in a couple of different flavors. When I drank my first bottle, within a few seconds, I felt tingling down my shoulders and then my entire torso. The feeling actually does feel like having an IV hydration in the hospital. Thanks for this shows work and information.
As always, it was a great guest and conversation. I am a big fan of both of your channels. I saw a woman who had rented a pistol for her concealed carry class and pointed "accidentally" at the instructor TWICE, she was walked off the range and had her money refunded.
🎉Red Dot.... I have not shotguns in a long time and I think it's time to start. Thanks for having this handsome young vet on. He just made my whole month
Im only 21 but ive handled guns for basically my whole life, safety has always been the number 1 thing drilled into my brain. Growing and watching adults that we're unable to follow 4 simple rules really got under my skin and it still does
I was going to the range 2-3 times a month for about 6 months trying to get used to a red dot on a pistol and I just never got the handle on it. I also really like the truglo tfx sights.
I'm not sure he hates Sig. Maybe he does, but he knows how unreliable they are because he's seen them fail a lot in his classes over the years compared to Glocks and M&Ps.
On my hunting pistol my red dot is a must....on my carry pistol I still haven't gotten my draw correct to see the red dot quick enough for me to use it every day
I have carried everything from a 4 inch .357 to a little.25 auto. In my former profession we carried full-size .40s. Sig , Glock and Beretta. Now I tend to lean toward smaller high cap 9mm. Since it’s truly self defense I like the “get off me gun” type. A standard Sig p365 is perfect. I carry a 43x with a 15 rd mag but not as much as the Sig. I carry several knives. Mostly a little Kershaw auto and a Swiss Army knife.
John told a story on his Podcast how a total stranger walked up onto his property. it was eye opening for he and his Family, everyone should Red Cell their Property
I will say in relation to his gun shop experience and pointing guns.....I used to work at a big box store at the firearms counter. A HUGE firearms counter. On busier days it was hard to handle a gun with people basically all around you and not pointing it, even accidentally, at someone. Been there, done that. I will say however we used trigger guards on all our guns and the first thing you did before you handed a firearm to a customer was to check the breach...every single time. We always asked the customers to point them behind us at the gun counter which was a solid wall.
My wife is a hospice nurse and spends her whole day driving all over hell and back. A lot of the time, she’s in pretty shady places. She carries every day. Kinda funny, there was a patients son at the house while she was there. He was a big scary tattooed biker bad ass. He somehow saw it and commented he was happy to see she carries.
Definitely going to be incorporating some clips from the interview with John Lovell into my organization's NCO Packet and some scenes from the interview with Tom Satterly into the Officer Packet as well as a part of the classroom work for those in each academy.
Great job. I truly enjoyed this interview. This is the rubber the meets the road . Hope we get more critical information that was shared. Thanks again, God Bless
I was at a gun show where a firearm was discharged. Nobody checked the chamber and a looker pulled the trigger. The muzzle was pointed at a concrete floor. A person got hit in the leg by fragments.
Johns interview was one of my favorites hands down. Have been a fan of both of you for along time and to finally see ya both you was a real treat!! God bless ya both 🙏🏻👏🫡🇺🇸
I have a Tristar T-100, and I put G10 Grips, and MCARBO CZ75 Trigger Spring. DA is about 10lbs and SA is just under 3lbs. I have over 2000 rounds through it, and not one malfunction.
Great interview Shawn. John is a really interesting guy. Would you consider inviting Christian Craighead on your show? That would also be a great watch.
1. I love how John loves his wife. You can tell how he talks about her that shes everything to him. Ive been trying to get my wife into this stuff for her security and such. I showed her john and his wife on a video and now shes hooked. So thank you. 2. You can tell John is much more of a giver. When hes talking about giving or doing something hes all about it. But, if you give him a gift he doesn't know what to say and kind of acts awkward. Thats how you know hes a selfless person in my opinion.
NV with pistol no red dot can be done. Punch a center hole in your black NV rubber eye cover with a 5.56 case. You can now see your pistol sights and target under nods. Learned that from gbrs.
I've done probably close to 100,000 reps with red dot on a pistol and I still am not used to it. I find the dot every single time, but still have this feeling like I would rather not have it in a true gun fight
@13:25 A police instructor told me that since the phone camera it has made it easier to teach properly since you can record the mistake and get the guy to correct it.
Excellent of you both to visit/revisit weapons protocol concerning safety, for any unprofessional personnel out there. Unloaded weapons kill several people every year.
Our Drill Sergeants DRILLED IN MUZZLE AWARENESS AT ALL TIMES when I was in Basic Combat Training in 2016. FIREARMS SAFETY IS PARAMOUNT when handling and operating ANY Firearm. No matter if you are NEW, Familiar, or Advanced. FIREARMS SAFETY IS PARAMOUNT WHEN HANDLING AND OPERATING ANY FIREARM. -U.S. ARMY Veteran (Me) 2016-2020
I love John's consistent demeaner then drop a humor turd out of no where. Also his supressed .22 for edc definitely filed a form 1 a few weeks ago when i watch a show and it was convincing.
private range, I avoid other members. Just last week two older gentlemen with ar's. Guy 1 at the firing line, calls out 'going hot' and watches everyone put on ears, his buddy is at his 5 oclock about 10 feet behind him, myself and a Board Member see him raise and aim downrange. We called out 'whoa! weapon down!' in unison. Classic response, I was just checking the sight, its empty, wah wah wah. Been on a range for the job and personal since 85. That careless unconscious attitude with a 'safe' gun DOES morph into the handling of a loaded gun. Saw it ALL the time. Thus, I avoid other folks at the range.
G43x with sig red dot, rats TQ, fixed blade by spartan, Benchmade Folder, Benchmade pen, fenix flashlight, lock pick. Med kit is always close, if I don't have a backpack, I will carry a smaller medical kit in a fanny pack.
I had to call a guy out at my local gun store/ range because he was pointing it at everybody with no round in the chamber but a loaded mag in, good thing the owner stepped in and he tried to argue and the owner told him to leave but he still was arguing it wasn’t loaded even though it still had a loaded mag.
I absolutely love how most people talk about you can have the best quality gun, but it won’t make you like a navy seal and so forth… BUTTTT and a very big BUT, as you train and you get really good and you DO have a premium weapon system you will improve your training time and wallet from upgrades down the road if you have the funds now. That’s just my 2 cents though… but at at the end of the day.. Stay trained and strapped, or get clapped
Hey Shawn, I am a Brit Civilian and Through watching Brandon Herrera and Warrior Poets Society etc I Apply the 4 Rules of Gun Safety Myself and am Hoping to get a UK Firearms Licence...
Shawn , i have you subbed on a few different phones with a few different accounts.WPSN aswell. Wanted to comment to tell you how i found you and that i have seen every episode of the show give or take some parts due to timing and things , but it was the pocket dump you did with a couple of vets in a gunshop .... my my how the world has hit the gas since then , but i am sure i am not the only one ... just thought you should know if this message gets to you that we have been here the entire time and we will all get there together come hell or high water.... ALWAYS FORWARD BROTHER!
What was your favorite part of John Lovell’s EDC? Any similarities?
What kind of holster is he carrying for his concealed? Also what does Sean Ryan carry for his concealed
Safety weapon, safety
@@cityofgarlic4088 it looks like a t1c minimalist holster. I have one and I didn't like it personally. Great quality but the design isn't my preference. I prefer JM custom holsters because they give you a long option. I got a g42 holster from them but it's the length of a g17. Keeps it much more stable whole allowing for a solid, repeatable master grip.
I’m retired Army I’m use to carry all kinds of things on the body, now I’m thinking of downsizing to a minimum
Don't buy your way into proficiency...absolutely!!
Please Shawn bring Travis Haley on for his amazing story on the battle of the Black water MD530 Little Bird helicopters based out of the Green Zone in Baghdad, Iraq. On April 4th 2004 "444" they were called into Al-Najaf to support and evacuate a stranded team.
I want to know how he met Garand Thumb’s mom…
@@KyleKalevra 😂
YES
@@KyleKalevrashould have them both on, father and son interview.
*Shawn
Such an incredible interview. Watched all the parts 2x already, John is such a good dude.
His book is absolutely incredible.
@@fullblastshitwave reading it for a 2nd time right now.
Two times? Wow that’s time consuming. Have you watched any other Sean Ryan pods more than once?
@@LP3me yeah I have, actually, watched the Travis Kennedy episode a few times, and a few more multiple times. I listen to them while I work, so sometimes I miss certain things
Agreed, so often I find myself picking up more details by watching/listening things a second time.. I did. that with the Every Day Spy episode, guess what, packing up the kids and moving to Paraguay soon 🤣
Lmao. I knew John picking up that competitor gun would be awkward.
The “always treat a gun as if it’s loaded” is a pet peeve of mine. I have a buddy that I refuse to shoot with because he’s flagged me multiple times. Shooters don’t be afraid to avoid unsafe shooters. Great issue that you discussed here.
Good point... also I do NOT go to shooting ranges with friends/family that don't wear their seat belt while driving. If they don't take their own safety seriously, then they won't take yours seriously either.
It “ALL guns are loaded all the time.”
What he says at a gun shop is so true. I used to work at a gun shop and I have had people point loaded guns at me..
Where I worked a woman who bought a gun and said no to training took a browning hi power to the range and shot it, then left it loaded and was trying to put it in a zip up case and it was a rug inside the case and it started to fall and she grabbed it and hit the trigger (it was off safe of course) and her thumb hit the trigger with the barrel pointed at her and she shot herself. She was awake and alive when the ambulance got there and took her, and sadly she died that night..
I had an older lady come into the store one time with a ww2 nazi berretta I believe it was in .32 acp and she didn't know anything about guns and she handed me the gun and said she was cleaning her grandfathers house out after he died and she just wanted to get rid of it.
She handed me the gun pointing it at me, and the magazine was separate, and unloaded, but there was a round in the chamber. OMG I was upset, but told her to never grab a gun if she didn't want to learn about them.
It's not that hard.
Treat all guns as if they are loaded!
Never point a gun at anything you're not willing to destroy.
Keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to shoot..
You have to break all three to have an accident.
You have to break all 3 to have an accident, UNLESS YOU HAVE A SIG
A thousand percent. I don't care if someone is going as physically slow and deliberate as a snail! I still will move slow if I feel less confident for whatever reason. We've got to understand this isn't the wrench you handed your Dad a couple times!
Damn man that's some crazy shit!
@@timmarcinek8005 That's working at a gun store in Indianapolis.
It takes 1 stupid incident to have your guns confiscated, or you thrown in jail. And your history is forever.
I’m retired LEO and carry that exact gun. It’s awesome. Super smooth and reliable. Their new optic is very nice.
That's awesome to hear Ron!
Shawn, I’m open to be interviewed if I get a free sig.
When I was in the military, we had a class where we used dummy guns and had another person push the firearm off to the side while we had it at the ready, then they would act as if they were going to push it but wouldn’t and that same anticipation would occur and people would move the gun off to the side as if it was pushed. Was really interesting to see that subconscious movement get pulled to the surface like that.
Shawn,
I watched the 4 part series with John Lovell and now the edc video. I have enjoyed all of your guests on and love your channel. But must admit these videos with John were my favorite. I could have listened to additional hours and hours with him.
Thank you to you and John for alll you have done and are doing for this community.
Great interview. I've watched the entire series of interviews with John. What an inspirational man. I have to say that yourself, Mike Glover and John are truly a blessing to our community. Plenty of other guys put out some nice content but you guys I just mentioned are in another league. Thank you
I worked at a Pawn Store and had to work at the gun counter frequently....a 55 yr old woman, 115 lbs soaking wet, and not overly strong😅 and many older rifles/shotguns seemed as big as I am.
Muzzle Safety, ammo check always #1.
I never got my a•• chewed, but I'm sure my boss had some good laughs watching me from home via surveillance.
That was a great job!!!
Jesus loves the intelligent life respecter.
Hell ya I’ve been watching WPS forever. Awesome to see you two collab.
As an aside, 9:16 that exact situation happened to me recently. Older gentleman checking out a S&W M&P Shield 9 and flagged just about everyone in the shop. I was pretty close to losing my temper but was able to keep it reasonably cool and yell “muzzle!” at him until he fixed himself. Gun owners that don’t take safety and training seriously are a major plague on the gun community. I’ve found the issue is especially prevalent among fudds who think they know what they’re doing simply because they’ve owned guns forever. Experience doesn’t equal competency. Guns are are tools and can be extremely dangerous in the hands of people who are ignorant to the fact that they’re ignorant. Or they haven’t honestly checked their ego enough to accept they’re not as competent as they think they are.
I agree with what John said. Get some training and practice every chance you are given, so when a bad situation arises you are prepared. You can never overtrain yourself with any firearm. Be prepared
John is phenomenal. Great personality that keeps you engaged.
Absolutely
I can watch John unboxing guns all day😂 give him more!
Did he let him keep the gun? Was it a gift?
@@LP3meyes but no. (Careful, ATF is watching)
You can give a gun as a gift, ya donut
@@elijah4606 if it's gifted across state lines, a federal background check by a registered firearms dealer is still legally required. Wouldn't recommend being an asshole if you don't fully understand what you're talking about.
@@elijah4606who are you even talking to? you pastry lover
I hate to say it, But I have been flagged at training courses by more police officers and ex military guys and people that grew up around firearms way more than any civilians at a very popular course that blew up after being on here. Our instructor day 2 told all the cops and military guys that missed day 1 because it wasn’t the fighter course that they have big shoes to fill because all of us civilians were super serious and safe. More experienced guys kept getting reminders to not point their guns at me specifically while my back was turned and I was running the course or walking off the line with hot weapons.
And pointing it at the class while they’re finding out their weapon is hot.
Be Safe guys! Watch your 6 and have a buddy do it while you’re running courses!
Because it’s not just cops that wanna go home safe! It’s all of us! Thanks Shawn for doing this with John. You guys are my favorite instructors and content creators in this space
Well said .. many people take a training class and think there “trained” when it’s the work you put in afterwards from that training class that counts
I've taken less than a handful of classes since I got out of the military a decade ago and every instructor has closed with some variation of telling the students that the class is not the end all be all and to take the lessons learned and continue to practice them.
Farmers EDC: leatherman tool, VFD pager, wallet, .22 ruger with red dot for varmints. Mostly the 4-legged kind. Was picking up the 2-legged kind coming in from Canada with the thermal while coyote hunting last winter
I was a batt boy and went to teams. I carry G17. My brother was a 3rd batt boy. He has 10 competition pistols, but he also carries a G17.
19 rounds, never jams, never misses.
Same. My Gen3 G17 always goes bang.
Teams?
It's always heartwarming to watch John talk about his wife. He clearly loves her to death.
I just made the change to adding a red dot on pistol. It’s definitely challenging to get use to, but hopefully multiple trips to the range will help.
It’s definitely a challenge! You will get used to it! Keep dry firing and drawing at home!
So I just took the plunge very recently and I originally "zeroed" my rds so it sat "a little above" my front sight(think lower 1/3). Set this in my basement. First range trip, having never actually fired a round, that dot was creepy on-point. It's a good enough "zero" for me that I can make hits at 25y with very little effort,much faster. It really is almost a cheat code imo
@@antm505yes. Practicing your draw so that the red dot is presenting itself as you extend out is key.
The first time I used one i hit the target everytime, I really like red dots though if I ever get to order the Nighthawk 1911 I want I'm still getting it with irons.
Don't go to the range to get good with a red dot. Empty the gun, put a piece of blue painters tape on the wall, and practice drawing and getting the red dot to land on it. No need to waste ammo at a range to get that part correct.
Good man. Been carrying since 2015, and the wife started carrying soon after, and both vehicles have a full medical kit. Thank goodness I haven't needed to use them, but always ready to protect.
Another delight to hear yet another accomplished and proven professional discuss the important issues concerning firearms and the big safety issues. As a 26-year UK military veteran I have great respect for your constitutionally protected rights to bear arms. I am fortunate enough to believe that after my service, I recognised that the threat level that once existed to my live and that of my family didn't necessarily require the need for a firearm for personal protection 24/365 and so I somewhat reluctantly surrendered that particular right. UK life in general a d thankfully doesn't have the level of threat that may exist in the US, but that being said, the access to guns by criminals/terrorists, the every increasing threat of militant extremism and organisations hell bent on murder and mayhem within our borders, I hope I'm wrong, but it may make me regret my decisions. Good luck Shawn and to all your guests, keep safe.
I can shoot with a red dot but my EDC is my G19x and I actually love the night sights that came with it alot more than a red dot... when out in public its obviously my main fighting tool but other than that it's my sidearm and my AR15 platform is my main fighting tool so having a red dot on the G19x seems a little excessive especially since it's meant to be a back up for close engagements.. I'm a usmc vet who spent my whole enlistment in 3rd recon and 2nd marsoc/msog so I can shoot my G19x extremely well but I'm still more proficient with my rifle in any situation. I have a 16" 1:8twist diamondback AR15 with a sig sauer romeo MSR red dot and a 3x magnifier.. I also have a nice magpul grip with a battery compartment along with a nice hogue buttstock a 12" quad picatany rail. A surefire flashlight with an optic flip cover on it as well as a forward grip and an adjustable 2 point tacticon ranger green sling... I also have front and rear flip up irons and I use M855 62g green tip 5.56NATO ammo out of that rifle...
Just wanted to tell you both that I, and many others, appreciate your efforts in helping to make for positive change! You guys rock!!!
S&W model 69 with crimson trace grips, I live in bear country and do a lot of fly fishing ....75th Ranger Reg , 101st Lrsd 311th mi, Rangers lead the way!
John seems to be a smart minimalist, thought out, not necessarily carrying the cool gear but what he is comfortable with. Carries med gear, not everyone does.
I watch so many channels pushing to carry so much gear, John favors the essentials, I like that and shows hes not paranoid like so many gun guys saying things like "you need to keep a gun in the shower with you" or "you need a back up gun and 4 mags, 2 med kits, bear spray.... blah blah blah, at the end of the day your exhausted. Ive come to a similar place in my carry, not that I didn't go through the "prepare for Red Dawn EDC" myself but now I think, knowing I'm not John Wick I carry what is practical "for me" to get me and mine through a bad situation and get us past danger and to a better place.
I had the same thing happen to me lately at the gunshop...dude pointed the rifle directly at me and before i could say anything the owner of the gunshop grabbed the bing bang and told the guy ``never point a firearm at anything or anyone u arent ready to shoot and treat all firearms as if they are loaded''.
In the gun community these are the two men I based my kit off of. Even overseas in contracting, they were how I did my setup and took my approach. Two legends in my humble opinion.
My favorite part of the show is when Shawn gives his guests a gift. These men are terminators and they still light up.
Many years ago i took a friend to a local range and was teaching him basics of shooting. Nearby, a couple lanes over, a group of college age kids (we live in a major college town) were taking turns shooting their rental guns, typical stuff everyone gets to try out when they're new.
Then they got to the desert eagle.
One of them, a young British guy (obvious by his accent) finished his turn and ejected the magazine but failed to eject the live .44 magnum round from the chamber and held it just like the guy in John's gun shop story, pointed at me.
I had been paying enough attention to know it was still loaded and called out to him saying "hey man, can you not point that over here? " and he smugly smirked and told me it wasn't loaded.
My response took the all the attitude right out of him, raising my voice a bit: "if you don't want me to point mine at you, then don't point yours at me". I saw the lightbulb turn on and he set the deagle down and hid behind the group.
My favourite type of EDC videos; seeing what guys with the a particular type of experience carry even though I can’t carry most of what they carry haha 🇬🇧
My Dad when I was very small taught me there's no such thing as a empty firearm and I've always passed that to my kids and their friends.
Ran into John at the gym a few years ago and he was even carrying at the gym. Also super cool and approachable dude.
I wish something would click for my wife! This has been one of the top 3 interviews you’ve even done!! I couldn’t watch it all at once sadly!! You 2 should shoot together on day on John’s channel???
Shawn,
I just wanted to let you know how much I/we appreciate all you do with these interviews. They are fantastic and especially John Lovell!!
lol I love John been following him on here for years. And Shawn you've been taking it next level this year, literally. I respect that deeply, fight the good fight. Much love and respect to you both from Sweden.
Don't become solely reliant on red dots and CCO's. Train with iron sights occasionally. In case things go south. Remember Delta, at their inception, used iron sights and were the early masters of front sight focus. We still train third world troops advanced marksmanship using iron sights and they become very effective with it.
Iron sights are still visible through a red dot...
Yes. Buddy of mine went hard into red dots recently and is shifting back to irons. As an additional element of potential failure, he noted going from air conditioned office to 100 degree outside it fogging up, the occasional seeing the red dot through the shirt. Those were just two pieces of insight that I found really interesting. For me, irons all day.
I'm a spiderco guy when it comes to edc knives I carry the spiderco military full size, as far as medical some quick clot and lidocaine, benzocaine , a piece of plastic wrap , some hard candy......75th Ranger reg ,101st lrsd 311th mi bn, Rangers lead the way!
Just picked up my P365 XM, green Holo solar sight and Streamlight. Just waiting on my holster to arrive for my EDC
This discussion was right on. I’ve had carry permits forever. But I don’t carry all the time. Work says no, safe spaces, safe neighborhood, clothes in a hot location…just so many excuses. My bad for sure. House is locked down. Guns positioned, etc. I need to be better outside of the house. Good discussion.
I am a firearms instructor. Good job John! Safety, train, know the basics!
This might be the first person on your show who actually has a prepared EDC 😂
Random plug for HOIST Rehydration drinks. The bottle proclaims "IV level hydration." Myself, I've never drank other rehydration specific drinks. On a whim, I purchased Hoist drinks in a couple of different flavors. When I drank my first bottle, within a few seconds, I felt tingling down my shoulders and then my entire torso. The feeling actually does feel like having an IV hydration in the hospital.
Thanks for this shows work and information.
As always, it was a great guest and conversation. I am a big fan of both of your channels. I saw a woman who had rented a pistol for her concealed carry class and pointed "accidentally" at the instructor TWICE, she was walked off the range and had her money refunded.
If you haven't watched this series, you need to see them all. Great example of grounded in reality.
Bought your book heard you on couple AM radio!!! THX 4 UR SERVICE🇺🇲🗡️
Love watching these interviews with John. John is an awesome dude.
🎉Red Dot.... I have not shotguns in a long time and I think it's time to start. Thanks for having this handsome young vet on. He just made my whole month
Im only 21 but ive handled guns for basically my whole life, safety has always been the number 1 thing drilled into my brain. Growing and watching adults that we're unable to follow 4 simple rules really got under my skin and it still does
I was going to the range 2-3 times a month for about 6 months trying to get used to a red dot on a pistol and I just never got the handle on it. I also really like the truglo tfx sights.
I wonder if he knows John hates Sig…
I'm not sure he hates Sig. Maybe he does, but he knows how unreliable they are because he's seen them fail a lot in his classes over the years compared to Glocks and M&Ps.
I don't know how many times I have been flagged by a muzzle in a gun shop. It's maddening.
On my hunting pistol my red dot is a must....on my carry pistol I still haven't gotten my draw correct to see the red dot quick enough for me to use it every day
Gave him the sig xmacro! Speaks volumes of how good the gun is! Also Shawn is such a great guy
I have carried everything from a 4 inch .357 to a little.25 auto. In my former profession we carried full-size .40s. Sig , Glock and Beretta. Now I tend to lean toward smaller high cap 9mm. Since it’s truly self defense I like the “get off me gun” type. A standard Sig p365 is perfect. I carry a 43x with a 15 rd mag but not as much as the Sig. I carry several knives. Mostly a little Kershaw auto and a Swiss Army knife.
Great EDC!!! Shawn is one of the best interviews!!
I own a Shadow Systems CR920 myself, love it.
I love how Shawn says the same thing about sig to everybody! Classic 😂
Sigs are fantastic firearms!
John told a story on his Podcast how a total stranger walked up onto his property. it was eye opening for he and his Family, everyone should Red Cell their Property
I will say in relation to his gun shop experience and pointing guns.....I used to work at a big box store at the firearms counter. A HUGE firearms counter. On busier days it was hard to handle a gun with people basically all around you and not pointing it, even accidentally, at someone. Been there, done that. I will say however we used trigger guards on all our guns and the first thing you did before you handed a firearm to a customer was to check the breach...every single time. We always asked the customers to point them behind us at the gun counter which was a solid wall.
My wife is a hospice nurse and spends her whole day driving all over hell and back. A lot of the time, she’s in pretty shady places. She carries every day.
Kinda funny, there was a patients son at the house while she was there. He was a big scary tattooed biker bad ass. He somehow saw it and commented he was happy to see she carries.
Definitely going to be incorporating some clips from the interview with John Lovell into my organization's NCO Packet and some scenes from the interview with Tom Satterly into the Officer Packet as well as a part of the classroom work for those in each academy.
Great job. I truly enjoyed this interview. This is the rubber the meets the road . Hope we get more critical information that was shared. Thanks again, God Bless
“When I’m in Atlanta I carry a full sized gun “ 😂😂😂😂
I was expecting his pocket dump to be a little more comedic like a never ending handkerchief skit
I was at a gun show where a firearm was discharged. Nobody checked the chamber and a looker pulled the trigger. The muzzle was pointed at a concrete floor. A person got hit in the leg by fragments.
I use the same t1c holster with my g19 Gen 5 it's a great holster it just disappears in your waist it's very comfortable to carry too
Johns literally carrying his own gun named after him & Shawns still pushing a Sig on him 😂😂😂
Johns interview was one of my favorites hands down. Have been a fan of both of you for along time and to finally see ya both you was a real treat!! God bless ya both 🙏🏻👏🫡🇺🇸
It seems like a lot of spec ops guys in TH-cam videos that were known to carry the Glock 19 or G43 are moving over to the SIG P365.
I have a Tristar T-100, and I put G10 Grips, and MCARBO CZ75 Trigger Spring. DA is about 10lbs and SA is just under 3lbs. I have over 2000 rounds through it, and not one malfunction.
Even with crappie steel case ammo. It eats everything you put in it.
Great interview Shawn. John is a really interesting guy. Would you consider inviting Christian Craighead on your show? That would also be a great watch.
Agreed!
Sigs are great as long as you don't drop them accidentally..
Great answer as always John. Guns are dangerous and fear is and always present. Train, discipline, repeat. God bless gentlemen.
1. I love how John loves his wife. You can tell how he talks about her that shes everything to him. Ive been trying to get my wife into this stuff for her security and such. I showed her john and his wife on a video and now shes hooked. So thank you.
2. You can tell John is much more of a giver. When hes talking about giving or doing something hes all about it. But, if you give him a gift he doesn't know what to say and kind of acts awkward. Thats how you know hes a selfless person in my opinion.
NV with pistol no red dot can be done. Punch a center hole in your black NV rubber eye cover with a 5.56 case. You can now see your pistol sights and target under nods. Learned that from gbrs.
I've done probably close to 100,000 reps with red dot on a pistol and I still am not used to it. I find the dot every single time, but still have this feeling like I would rather not have it in a true gun fight
Two thumbs up for this one. Loved the interview series with John. Keep up the good work.
@13:25 A police instructor told me that since the phone camera it has made it easier to teach properly since you can record the mistake and get the guy to correct it.
Excellent of you both to visit/revisit weapons protocol concerning safety, for any unprofessional personnel out there. Unloaded weapons kill several people every year.
Our Drill Sergeants DRILLED IN MUZZLE AWARENESS AT ALL TIMES when I was in Basic Combat Training in 2016. FIREARMS SAFETY IS PARAMOUNT when handling and operating ANY Firearm. No matter if you are NEW, Familiar, or Advanced. FIREARMS SAFETY IS PARAMOUNT WHEN HANDLING AND OPERATING ANY FIREARM.
-U.S. ARMY Veteran (Me) 2016-2020
I love John's consistent demeaner then drop a humor turd out of no where. Also his supressed .22 for edc definitely filed a form 1 a few weeks ago when i watch a show and it was convincing.
Having worked at a gun shop, he's absolutely right. I've seen stuff that makes me infuriated.
private range, I avoid other members. Just last week two older gentlemen with ar's. Guy 1 at the firing line, calls out 'going hot' and watches everyone put on ears, his buddy is at his 5 oclock about 10 feet behind him, myself and a Board Member see him raise and aim downrange. We called out 'whoa! weapon down!' in unison. Classic response, I was just checking the sight, its empty, wah wah wah. Been on a range for the job and personal since 85. That careless unconscious attitude with a 'safe' gun DOES morph into the handling of a loaded gun. Saw it ALL the time. Thus, I avoid other folks at the range.
G43x with sig red dot, rats TQ, fixed blade by spartan, Benchmade Folder, Benchmade pen, fenix flashlight, lock pick. Med kit is always close, if I don't have a backpack, I will carry a smaller medical kit in a fanny pack.
Took a class from John and Clint Smith at Thunder Ranch a few years back. Great weekend of training.
Glad you break the video up in segments like this!
I had to call a guy out at my local gun store/ range because he was pointing it at everybody with no round in the chamber but a loaded mag in, good thing the owner stepped in and he tried to argue and the owner told him to leave but he still was arguing it wasn’t loaded even though it still had a loaded mag.
I absolutely love how most people talk about you can have the best quality gun, but it won’t make you like a navy seal and so forth… BUTTTT and a very big BUT, as you train and you get really good and you DO have a premium weapon system you will improve your training time and wallet from upgrades down the road if you have the funds now. That’s just my 2 cents though… but at at the end of the day.. Stay trained and strapped, or get clapped
I had the pleasure of training with John and Sam a few years ago. Awesome dudes!!
I’ve met John in person. He is even nicer and cooler in person than he seems on a screen. Just a good good dude
Clint Smith next please! Thanks for the share!!
Right on point! Training, training and more training 👍🏽🇺🇸
Hey Shawn, I am a Brit Civilian and Through watching Brandon Herrera and Warrior Poets Society etc I Apply the 4 Rules of Gun Safety Myself and am Hoping to get a UK Firearms Licence...
I think the awareness of having a red dot does not automatically make you a better shooter is vastly overlooked.
Great short Brother.
You had me at, "Down town Atlanta I'll carry a full sized..."
I switched to an optic on my EDC because of my aging eyes. I had to work with it, but I wouldn’t trade it for anything now.
Shawn , i have you subbed on a few different phones with a few different accounts.WPSN aswell.
Wanted to comment to tell you how i found you and that i have seen every episode of the show give or take some parts due to timing and things , but it was the pocket dump you did with a couple of vets in a gunshop .... my my how the world has hit the gas since then , but i am sure i am not the only one ... just thought you should know if this message gets to you that we have been here the entire time and we will all get there together come hell or high water.... ALWAYS FORWARD BROTHER!