This is an incredible video. One of the reasons why you’re my favorite keyboard TH-camrs is your creativity, ingenuity, and scientific approach to keyboards.
i appreciate the scientific approach to plates and whether they produce "thocc" or "clack" sounds, but i think the acoustics of the keyboard are determined more by the keyboard than just the plate that you use. the size of the acoustic chamber, the presence of any weights, what material they are, etc
Definitely right. There are so many factors. This was just focusing on plates this time. I think I covered foams, basics of sound, plates. Hmm what can be next
I love the math and am glad it lines up with what I've been seeing in sound tests. Brass has a "musical" element to it, but has always sounded deeper to me than Alu!! It also lines up with my real-world testing between PC and POM that they basically feel and sound identical.
Upvoted for the scientific approach, epic sound profile obtained and overall amazing streak of videos one after the other! Continue making and i'll continue watching and liking! 👍
Polypropylene (PP) plate going to be the next frontier with its 1.325 GPa Young's Modulus and similar density to polycarbonate and polyoxymethylene for the lowest specific stiffness. Amazing work and congratulations Scott on a well-deserved win!
th-cam.com/video/JDS32JpDas0/w-d-xo.html this video proves that Polypropylene is the way to go. The 2nd keyboard in the video has a polypropylene plate. This is the Menhir by Fruitykeebs. Fr, it’s mental.
Wow you are a truly a magician! You didnt even use all of the budget but you still managed to make a really good sounding board.Your ideas are so creative and cool. Keep up the good work✅✅✅✅✅
Thanks for the very clear explanations, all of this really made sense (as a physicist and keyboard hobbyist)! I'm glad someone finally took the time to figure out the physics behind
I can confirm glue makes key caps thocc. I tried it before and after and slowly layered it over a day or 2 and holy it thocc the space arg sounds so muted and thoccy
Awesome job breaking down how acoustics work on the side of the plate. If you’d ever follow up on this on analysing cases, I think it would be interesting to see how boards that are deliberately designed to have more resonance, like J-01/02 or the Bauer, compares to the more mainstream boards. Getting deep into how ABS/hollow vintage boards can sound good with clickies in comparison to modern custom keyboards would be interesting too, I think!
Been in this hobby for a few years ( i wasnt really into high end custom keyboard kits at all back then) and I remember back in the day brass being considered the deepest and still finding it to be pretty deep, the this last year or so everyone started saying it was high pitched, was starting to feel like I was crazy, glad to know the scientific data shows that i wasn't crazy xd
I have been using my KBDFans Odin v1 with brass plate and TTC Ace, but the sound is still pretty deep & thocky. Now I can see why. The sound doesn't depends solely on the raw material stiffness, but on the effective stiffness. Now I know exactly how to choose plate material for my next builds. Thank you!
Those calculations on all the plate materials and how they translate to clack or thock was absolutely amazing. It gives me a much better idea now. Thanks!
I just did this to my Kemove Shadow (a kinda budget keyboard) but using eva foam instead of glue and man it worked like a charm. Thanks for the inspiration. Now I just need to lube my stabilizers to reach the final THOCK.
Very cool to see you get in on the collaborations with Switch and Click. Loved seeing your scientific approach to the build challenge and your breakdown of what you did on your channel. Great content as always and very appreciative of the build tips!
the explanation for plate stiffness correlating to the resonant frequency was definitely helpful. been wanting to build my own keyboards in the future, and figuring our the type of plate to use has been a confusing one until now
I'm new to this hobby. Over the past 2 weeks, I’ve watched hundreds of keyboard videos while working everyday, and I’d say this is the most informative! 💪 I currently have Akko’s MU01 and plan to get a Sugar65, along with O-rings and the Vertex V1 for my very first barebone kit
Bro your explanation of how mass and stiffness affect frequency was so good. Like i could intuitively understand how mass is inversely proportional, but stiffness being directly proportional made no sense at all. Then when u used the guitar example it made so much sense.
Loved the plate science lesson. Makes it a little easier for me trying to understand the options as someone trying to get into the hobby. Also very curious what the actual impact of the glue might be. Tempted to buy one of these now and do a before and after.
If you wouldn't win the sound contest... they would have cheated... you are a true scientific keybo(ar/re)d grand master. Respect! ...thank you for sharing your valuable knowledge with us.
I watched some of your other explanations of the stiffness and mass concept but THIS ONE is the best! Thanks to your guitar string example, I understand it so well now!
Great video! No longer do I have to listen to a hundred sound comparison videos thanks to your explanations backed by science. I'm fairly new and was trying to determine which plate material to go for and this video helped me make that decision confidently.
I appreciate your efforts to keeps us educated on the "whys", you know you're going to learn something new when you hear "it's time for a technical segment". Great idea for the foam roll for the steel plate, I will have to try that. Best sound indeed, well done
I like Scott’s vids. Informative, objective, comedic and factual. Presentation is structured very well throughout the video. Vocally paced well. Perfectly balanced.
glad to see this hobby is approaching scientific tinkering like any other hobby and less "buy pricier, get better quality". nice video man, very nice :D
8:15 You answered so many of my questions! THANK YOU SO MUCH!! I would not have guessed from the title of your video! I came to be entertained and to quench my curiosity and I came away EDUCATED! 😁Thanks again.
i always wondered how plate materials affect stiffness and sound and could only rely on anecdotal sound tests. thx for finally answering the question with scientific explanations
I saw this video and got into the custom keyboard hobby. It think seeing all of the components being factored into the price made it a lot more approachable. I copied most of these aspects for one of my friends and have it to him for his B-day. Then I started building more for other people and now I have my own custom keyboard. TBH I don't know whether or not this is good thing but this was a really good video!
Fantastic work, great application to some sound theory! All together you've now covered basics of sound, foams, and now plates. Can you please make a supercut of all the educational parts? I'd love to share it with some friends who really care about the physics behind it all!
This is one of the best instructional material that I have ever heard. His explanation of air-borne sound and structure-borne is easy to understand and helped with a current build. Excellent work.. Thank you.
Earned a sub because of the scientific approach. Also, me and other guitarists I know that mod guitars agree about the brass part. Me and my dad both use brass blocks on our guitar bridge blocks because of two things, it adds a darker tone and adds nice sustain to the guitar.
Having done some research with metals in regards to drum kits, checks out. Steel Snares are very bright and produce a huge amount of crack. Aluminum snares are very dry sounding, and brass snares, while providing the same crack as most metal snares do, has a warmer sound, being regarded as a nice compromise between wood and metal.
Just wanted to say that you inspired me to do the same to my cheap 35$ keyboard from 2019. It turned out awesome! I'm very excited to type on it now. I didn't do the glue in the keycaps though and ended up using electrical tape instead. Also my particular keyboard had solder put over one of the screws connecting the plate to the PCB. Fortunately, it wasn't too bad to desolder but a bit annoying.
The material comparison was amazing and as a drummer it makes a lot of sense as there are brass, steel and aluminium snare drums which match the same order in pitch.. So cool!!
I always was lost determining which material plate to choose for a keeb thinking hard whether if it would thoc or clack so I super appreciate the scientific portion fully explaining this! Because of this single vid, now I know. Big ups brother!
You have no idea how much I appreciate the science SPECIFICALLY around frequency. I would love to talk with you about this directly and ask all my burning questions haha!! Keep up the phenomenal content!!
Love how much bigger the space has grown. Also funny to see how different Betty is now. She was so quite before and now alot more goofy which I guess is her true self.
Not gonna lie but you become my fav keyboard TH-cam channel because the technical engineering explanations. I’m a automotive fuel engine technician already use Permatex ultra black silicone gaskets maker for my spacebar something similar what you did for the keycap and change the sound frequency to a deep thock sound because the solid silicone damp better the vibration of the movement.I like it better then a foam mods.
Try flowable silicone in the keycaps. It’s for windshields and a tube is about $5 at the hardware store. It sticks to surfaces well after it drys, but comes off cleanly when removing it.
Another amazing video, Scott! Great explanation of scientific stuffs that affect keyboard sound! This is the kind of content we have been looking for since most of us in the hobby have been wasting so much time and money into buying mods that do not really make our keyboards the way we want it to be. Now that your videos are here, people can be educated without having to waste so much time and effort on building their boards. Huge thanks to you, Scott!
Love the Science! Makes it more objective and easier to make a decision based on personal taste once one know which factors to look for. Thank you for that!
This is amazing. I have a board that also started at $40. I spent a lot more than you did and mine is not nearly as nice. I'm glad I didn't start with that plate. I'm not sure I would have even tried to mod that.
I am glad to have found you. I don't really think this is going to become a hobby for me, I am just a software developer that wants a good keyboard, and haven't been completely happy with any that I have owned over the years. I am getting ready to build on myself, and I appreciate that you bring actual facts to the table, so that I don't have to just experiment with a bunch of crap. Thank you for the awesome content, sir!
I bought my first 65% today and wondered how i could improve. I watched 1 videoor mods and that was a silicone mold vid. Everything i imagined would work (minus the tap thing) was featured in this video
Heh, wasnt expecting to revisit my university engineering/physics again due to keyboard hobby, but then again i got onto keyboard modding because it reminds me of tinkering with equipment that i had to do when i was working in a lab.
The math behind the different pitches that plate materials have is awesome, it's easy to follow and very detailed at the same time, but I also think that using "thock" or "clack" to describe a certain pitch is not in line with the rest of the scientific analysis as they are very subjective terms. Different materials not only vary in pitch but also in timbre, which could alter the meaning of "thock": for example, brass plates, even though they should be lower pitched than alu plates, they sound higher pitched to most ears because the switches themselves, as they sit on a denser plate, sound higher pitched. Another thing worth noting is that some switches could sound better when paired with specific plates. Overall, though, the video is still amazing and I love the effort you put into it.
Just another small example, FR4 and brass have the exact same specific stiffness, but they sound very, very different, and that's because of the material they are made of
As a German keyboard user I'm really interested in the Glue mod... I just bought a Keychron K6 in German Iso-DE layout, which sadly, is one of the very few options available at this moment. I lubed the switches and did a tape and foam mod, which really helped a lot. But next up is a paint job for the aluminum frame and I'd like to get better sounding and fitting Keycaps. The problem is, that there's basically no way to get nice 65% ISO-DE keycaps anywhere :( So I might give this a shot and use fitting Paint on a cap or two for color accents. Thanks a lot for the inspiration!
Hi Scott, amazing video and congratz for the win! Could you please get in to more detail about implementing the Gummy o-ring mount? Does it need any support from the bottom of the case, or the friction alone can hold it in place? I would assume it needs some support from the bottom of the case, so not every keyboard can be modified to use the Gummy o-ring mount.
@@Keybored can a similar mathematical approach be applied in the case of switches (the ones that don't have mystery blends or proprietary materials ofc)? It would make for your own "brand" of switch review that a lot of us would religiously watch. (unlimited content, wink wink). If there's a way of calculating frequency for 2 different materials hitting each other (say pom stem and nylon bot and then how the top material if different affects or filters that)
Yeah the 2 brass plate keyboards I have are much lower frequency than my aluminium plates. Plus the integrated plates are higher frequency. I really struggle with getting the sound right for integrated plate keyboards.
really really appreciate the scientific approach to things. So much good information and I hope we can stop throwing around random opinions like that are facts. Curious to hear a sound comparison on glue vs stock keycaps. I wonder if it can be used to save some super cheaper keycaps I have just sitting in bins
@@Keybored cool! I'm looking forward to trying this. If budget was not a concern, would you have tried something other than glue? Or is it better off just buying new keycaps? I feel likes it's sad to just throw them away so it would be cool if they could be salvaged.
Saw the switch and click video a few hours ago, looked for yours like crazy, and couldn’t find it. Thank god you just did, now im gonna try and mod my keebs like yours!! Great win and video!!
I bow down to the engineer.
O hail keybored
You had the toughest challenge with a $20 budget. Definitely worth noting!
Hipyo nice try
Respect that you recognize the grand master. You made also a good job for the budget but I believe keybored would have won even with $20.
When he eats the glue lol
This is an incredible video. One of the reasons why you’re my favorite keyboard TH-camrs is your creativity, ingenuity, and scientific approach to keyboards.
:) I really appreciate that! It was a fun collab and hope I can do more
agreee
@@Keybored can I buy the keyboard? :) pls
Your board is definately not ugly. imo its the coolest looking of them. Stealthy and subtle. love it.
My jaw literally dropped when I heard the first keypress of the modded soundtest. You are a madman and I mean this in the best way. Kudos.
i appreciate the scientific approach to plates and whether they produce "thocc" or "clack" sounds, but i think the acoustics of the keyboard are determined more by the keyboard than just the plate that you use. the size of the acoustic chamber, the presence of any weights, what material they are, etc
Definitely right. There are so many factors. This was just focusing on plates this time. I think I covered foams, basics of sound, plates. Hmm what can be next
@@Keybored cant seem to find the foam video,can you give me the link?
@@imghosty5805 I think he is referring to this vid
th-cam.com/video/_N8k0u75eLQ/w-d-xo.html
@@Keybored the hollow vs ping,i think its on your channel but I could be dumb and its on another channel
@@imghosty5805 the wind x 65 video
I love the math and am glad it lines up with what I've been seeing in sound tests. Brass has a "musical" element to it, but has always sounded deeper to me than Alu!! It also lines up with my real-world testing between PC and POM that they basically feel and sound identical.
:) hope the charts and the scientific methods make sense and helps!
Thus why brass instruments exist
Upvoted for the scientific approach, epic sound profile obtained and overall amazing streak of videos one after the other! Continue making and i'll continue watching and liking! 👍
You're a king for bringing some sorely needed objectivity into this overly subjective hobby.
Amazing job here.
Thank you Nick! I appreciate it!
I wonder how one would go about achieving a thock and clack sound at the same time
@@arab6745 deep/dull bottom out combined with a high-pitched snappy return, maybe?
I enjoyed the science lesson! So interesting
SCIENCE
only 14 likes 1 year ago? what?
You've totally nailed it Keybored... unimaginable sound of the mods!
Thank you! Really appreciate it!
Polypropylene (PP) plate going to be the next frontier with its 1.325 GPa Young's Modulus and similar density to polycarbonate and polyoxymethylene for the lowest specific stiffness.
Amazing work and congratulations Scott on a well-deserved win!
th-cam.com/video/JDS32JpDas0/w-d-xo.html this video proves that Polypropylene is the way to go. The 2nd keyboard in the video has a polypropylene plate. This is the Menhir by Fruitykeebs. Fr, it’s mental.
wtf are you saying
Wow you are a truly a magician! You didnt even use all of the budget but you still managed to make a really good sounding board.Your ideas are so creative and cool. Keep up the good work✅✅✅✅✅
Thank you so much Dico! I probably spent way too much time gluing the caps hahaha
Thanks for the very clear explanations, all of this really made sense (as a physicist and keyboard hobbyist)! I'm glad someone finally took the time to figure out the physics behind
You're like a professor in keyboard science. I got to learn sooooo much more from your videos
I can confirm glue makes key caps thocc. I tried it before and after and slowly layered it over a day or 2 and holy it thocc the space arg sounds so muted and thoccy
Awesome job breaking down how acoustics work on the side of the plate. If you’d ever follow up on this on analysing cases, I think it would be interesting to see how boards that are deliberately designed to have more resonance, like J-01/02 or the Bauer, compares to the more mainstream boards. Getting deep into how ABS/hollow vintage boards can sound good with clickies in comparison to modern custom keyboards would be interesting too, I think!
For sure! There are so many dynamics in keyboards that were just only peeling back the first layer!
Been in this hobby for a few years ( i wasnt really into high end custom keyboard kits at all back then) and I remember back in the day brass being considered the deepest and still finding it to be pretty deep, the this last year or so everyone started saying it was high pitched, was starting to feel like I was crazy, glad to know the scientific data shows that i wasn't crazy xd
I have been using my KBDFans Odin v1 with brass plate and TTC Ace, but the sound is still pretty deep & thocky. Now I can see why. The sound doesn't depends solely on the raw material stiffness, but on the effective stiffness. Now I know exactly how to choose plate material for my next builds. Thank you!
Those calculations on all the plate materials and how they translate to clack or thock was absolutely amazing. It gives me a much better idea now. Thanks!
I just did this to my Kemove Shadow (a kinda budget keyboard) but using eva foam instead of glue and man it worked like a charm. Thanks for the inspiration.
Now I just need to lube my stabilizers to reach the final THOCK.
Very cool to see you get in on the collaborations with Switch and Click. Loved seeing your scientific approach to the build challenge and your breakdown of what you did on your channel. Great content as always and very appreciative of the build tips!
Thank you Stevie!
the explanation for plate stiffness correlating to the resonant frequency was definitely helpful. been wanting to build my own keyboards in the future, and figuring our the type of plate to use has been a confusing one until now
I'm new to this hobby. Over the past 2 weeks, I’ve watched hundreds of keyboard videos while working everyday, and I’d say this is the most informative! 💪 I currently have Akko’s MU01 and plan to get a Sugar65, along with O-rings and the Vertex V1 for my very first barebone kit
Bro your explanation of how mass and stiffness affect frequency was so good. Like i could intuitively understand how mass is inversely proportional, but stiffness being directly proportional made no sense at all. Then when u used the guitar example it made so much sense.
Loved the plate science lesson. Makes it a little easier for me trying to understand the options as someone trying to get into the hobby. Also very curious what the actual impact of the glue might be. Tempted to buy one of these now and do a before and after.
I love it how in the call when they say 'lets get started!' everyone jumps around and Scott just gets up and walks away 🤣
one year late. didnt expect a physics lesson on a keyboard video but i dont mind lol. earned a sub
If you wouldn't win the sound contest... they would have cheated... you are a true scientific keybo(ar/re)d grand master. Respect! ...thank you for sharing your valuable knowledge with us.
I watched some of your other explanations of the stiffness and mass concept but THIS ONE is the best! Thanks to your guitar string example, I understand it so well now!
I would love an A/B comparison on the glue mod. It'd be interesting to know if it could actually help in some scenarios
Great video! No longer do I have to listen to a hundred sound comparison videos thanks to your explanations backed by science. I'm fairly new and was trying to determine which plate material to go for and this video helped me make that decision confidently.
I was blown away by the amount of science and math you had implemented into the keyboard, bravo!!!
You're THE mad scientist of keyboards. Awesome video!
I appreciate your efforts to keeps us educated on the "whys", you know you're going to learn something new when you hear "it's time for a technical segment". Great idea for the foam roll for the steel plate, I will have to try that. Best sound indeed, well done
I like Scott’s vids. Informative, objective, comedic and factual. Presentation is structured very well throughout the video. Vocally paced well. Perfectly balanced.
Thank you so much! I appreciate the feedback!
glad to see this hobby is approaching scientific tinkering like any other hobby and less "buy pricier, get better quality".
nice video man, very nice :D
Appreciate the scientific knowledge! I can now choose the best material for the sounding of my custom keyboard
8:15 You answered so many of my questions! THANK YOU SO MUCH!! I would not have guessed from the title of your video! I came to be entertained and to quench my curiosity and I came away EDUCATED! 😁Thanks again.
:) glad to be of help!
i always wondered how plate materials affect stiffness and sound and could only rely on anecdotal sound tests. thx for finally answering the question with scientific explanations
:) you got it
I saw this video and got into the custom keyboard hobby. It think seeing all of the components being factored into the price made it a lot more approachable. I copied most of these aspects for one of my friends and have it to him for his B-day. Then I started building more for other people and now I have my own custom keyboard. TBH I don't know whether or not this is good thing but this was a really good video!
Fantastic work, great application to some sound theory! All together you've now covered basics of sound, foams, and now plates. Can you please make a supercut of all the educational parts? I'd love to share it with some friends who really care about the physics behind it all!
This is one of the best instructional material that I have ever heard. His explanation of air-borne sound and structure-borne is easy to understand and helped with a current build. Excellent work.. Thank you.
Glad to hear that! Hope it was helpful and stay tuned for more content!
Earned a sub because of the scientific approach. Also, me and other guitarists I know that mod guitars agree about the brass part. Me and my dad both use brass blocks on our guitar bridge blocks because of two things, it adds a darker tone and adds nice sustain to the guitar.
I've always wanted to see how you turn these cheap 60%s into o ring mounted keyboards!
If it has a daughter board, so much easier!
Having done some research with metals in regards to drum kits, checks out.
Steel Snares are very bright and produce a huge amount of crack. Aluminum snares are very dry sounding, and brass snares, while providing the same crack as most metal snares do, has a warmer sound, being regarded as a nice compromise between wood and metal.
That's good to know! The info works across different segments and industries!
the fact that you legit put glue in your mouth for the skit.... thats dedication best keebtuber!
Just wanted to say that you inspired me to do the same to my cheap 35$ keyboard from 2019. It turned out awesome! I'm very excited to type on it now.
I didn't do the glue in the keycaps though and ended up using electrical tape instead. Also my particular keyboard had solder put over one of the screws connecting the plate to the PCB. Fortunately, it wasn't too bad to desolder but a bit annoying.
The material comparison was amazing and as a drummer it makes a lot of sense as there are brass, steel and aluminium snare drums which match the same order in pitch..
So cool!!
I love how you break down short lessons for your vids! Very informative and increase my knowledge about keyboards little by little
I always was lost determining which material plate to choose for a keeb thinking hard whether if it would thoc or clack so I super appreciate the scientific portion fully explaining this! Because of this single vid, now I know. Big ups brother!
You are literally starting a scientific revolution in this hobby. Awesome stuff!
came for the entertainment, left with a lot of new knowledge. thank you!
This is the coolest keyboard video I have ever seen and every few years I watch keyboard videos for a few days or weeks until my eyes bleed. Bravo.
You have no idea how much I appreciate the science SPECIFICALLY around frequency. I would love to talk with you about this directly and ask all my burning questions haha!! Keep up the phenomenal content!!
:) Thank you! Check out my discord!
your explanation of the different plate types was extremely informative and useful. Thanks.
Finally some objective explanations to the "thock" and "clacks" insta-sub, hoping for more science-based videos!
Love how much bigger the space has grown. Also funny to see how different Betty is now. She was so quite before and now alot more goofy which I guess is her true self.
:) for sure the hobby has grown tremendously! All good people I've worked with in this hobby :)
I discovered you from this challenge from Switch and Click’s channel and I’m so happy I did, you’re great!
I love the science focused approach! You give us the knowledge to implement our own mods with minimal trial and error by doing so. Thank you!
That keyboards stock stabilizers are COMICAL lol
Lol... a lot of things in stock form was pretty comical. But tuning helps!
Not gonna lie but you become my fav keyboard TH-cam channel because the technical engineering explanations. I’m a automotive fuel engine technician already use Permatex ultra black silicone gaskets maker for my spacebar something similar what you did for the keycap and change the sound frequency to a deep thock sound because the solid silicone damp better the vibration of the movement.I like it better then a foam mods.
Watching Scott's videos is like studying sound engineering. Amazing content, my man!
Try flowable silicone in the keycaps. It’s for windshields and a tube is about $5 at the hardware store. It sticks to surfaces well after it drys, but comes off cleanly when removing it.
Thanks for the advice! Will have to do this instead of glue next time haha
My guy taught me science, I just came for a aesthetic keyboard moding video to take rest from my study session but got the revision.
Another amazing video, Scott! Great explanation of scientific stuffs that affect keyboard sound! This is the kind of content we have been looking for since most of us in the hobby have been wasting so much time and money into buying mods that do not really make our keyboards the way we want it to be. Now that your videos are here, people can be educated without having to waste so much time and effort on building their boards. Huge thanks to you, Scott!
Glad to be of help! Thank you!
This is beyond keyboard modding. Love this one.
Love the Science! Makes it more objective and easier to make a decision based on personal taste once one know which factors to look for. Thank you for that!
This is amazing. I have a board that also started at $40. I spent a lot more than you did and mine is not nearly as nice. I'm glad I didn't start with that plate. I'm not sure I would have even tried to mod that.
Is there a video where we get to see most if the build. I love the science and long explanation but would love to see the build as well.
That keyboard sounds amazing and your mods were very creative and this explanation or lesson is stellar!
Now I wanna fill with glue or silicone all my SA keycaps, I think that would be great, I also had that idea before.
It went from sounding like a keyboard Corsair would have put out 8 years ago, to perfectly acceptable budget mech. Good work sir.
Love the quantitative approach too - finally a keeb tuber speaking my language
The clip of the plate ping just pop out of nowhere legit scared me cause of how pingy and loud it was lmao
Hahaha sorry about that!
I am glad to have found you. I don't really think this is going to become a hobby for me, I am just a software developer that wants a good keyboard, and haven't been completely happy with any that I have owned over the years. I am getting ready to build on myself, and I appreciate that you bring actual facts to the table, so that I don't have to just experiment with a bunch of crap.
Thank you for the awesome content, sir!
:) Glad to hear that! Thank you for the support and hope I can provide some help!
I bought my first 65% today and wondered how i could improve. I watched 1 videoor mods and that was a silicone mold vid. Everything i imagined would work (minus the tap thing) was featured in this video
This video just definitely answered a sound question that has been previously only answered by broscience. Bravo sir. Thanks so much.
4:07 i still cannot believe what i've heard @@! OMG you're such a master !
Science!!! We love science!! \o/
Thanks for the explanation and math. Amazing job with the keyboard!
your parents are so proud seeing you using your knowledge in such a useful way :)
Heh, wasnt expecting to revisit my university engineering/physics again due to keyboard hobby, but then again i got onto keyboard modding because it reminds me of tinkering with equipment that i had to do when i was working in a lab.
:) same here! I thought I left it long behind
this really helps me understand a lot about keyboard acoustics. thanks scott!
Glad it helps!
Always enjoy the sweat section I mean the technical section. But I have one question: How does the o-ring sit inside the case? Did you file the PCB?
What I came for: Creative budget keyboard upgrade
What I got: Materials Science 101 with Keybored.
10/10 video
really respect you took a completely different approach and super happy it worked out for you! science ftw
Science! And glue
@@Keybored *sniff sniff* ahh smells like solvent... i mean victory!
The math behind the different pitches that plate materials have is awesome, it's easy to follow and very detailed at the same time, but I also think that using "thock" or "clack" to describe a certain pitch is not in line with the rest of the scientific analysis as they are very subjective terms. Different materials not only vary in pitch but also in timbre, which could alter the meaning of "thock": for example, brass plates, even though they should be lower pitched than alu plates, they sound higher pitched to most ears because the switches themselves, as they sit on a denser plate, sound higher pitched. Another thing worth noting is that some switches could sound better when paired with specific plates. Overall, though, the video is still amazing and I love the effort you put into it.
Just another small example, FR4 and brass have the exact same specific stiffness, but they sound very, very different, and that's because of the material they are made of
I think for sound you DEFINETLY won, but for looks Lewis' was the best.
As a German keyboard user I'm really interested in the Glue mod... I just bought a Keychron K6 in German Iso-DE layout, which sadly, is one of the very few options available at this moment. I lubed the switches and did a tape and foam mod, which really helped a lot. But next up is a paint job for the aluminum frame and I'd like to get better sounding and fitting Keycaps. The problem is, that there's basically no way to get nice 65% ISO-DE keycaps anywhere :( So I might give this a shot and use fitting Paint on a cap or two for color accents. Thanks a lot for the inspiration!
Haha it takes multiple layers of glue! Keep that in mind!
Engineering + keebs all in one vid is really checking all the boxes for me lol
:) glad to hear that!
Now this is what we need, the numbers! Those graphs and charts should be pinned and put into google docs.
Keybored has that magic touch in his hands, whatever keyboard he mods will become blessed by the THOCC gods!
:) maybe I spend too much time
Hi Scott, amazing video and congratz for the win! Could you please get in to more detail about implementing the Gummy o-ring mount? Does it need any support from the bottom of the case, or the friction alone can hold it in place? I would assume it needs some support from the bottom of the case, so not every keyboard can be modified to use the Gummy o-ring mount.
This has answered sooooo many questions and nuances and I will use the info contained within for many purchases to come. Thank you! Thank you! 🤗
Glad to hear that!
@@Keybored can a similar mathematical approach be applied in the case of switches (the ones that don't have mystery blends or proprietary materials ofc)? It would make for your own "brand" of switch review that a lot of us would religiously watch. (unlimited content, wink wink). If there's a way of calculating frequency for 2 different materials hitting each other (say pom stem and nylon bot and then how the top material if different affects or filters that)
Yeah the 2 brass plate keyboards I have are much lower frequency than my aluminium plates.
Plus the integrated plates are higher frequency.
I really struggle with getting the sound right for integrated plate keyboards.
Yooo I was litteraly asking myself what the hype about keyboard flex was about and then I see this video THANK YOU
Loving it! Can't wait for the scientific explain of pe foam, case foam and tape mod, pleaseeeee
Your channel has always been the best and most underrated keyboard channel, and now we have the science to prove it.
really really appreciate the scientific approach to things. So much good information and I hope we can stop throwing around random opinions like that are facts.
Curious to hear a sound comparison on glue vs stock keycaps. I wonder if it can be used to save some super cheaper keycaps I have just sitting in bins
Oh the stock caps were just so so bad lol
@@Keybored cool! I'm looking forward to trying this.
If budget was not a concern, would you have tried something other than glue? Or is it better off just buying new keycaps?
I feel likes it's sad to just throw them away so it would be cool if they could be salvaged.
Saw the switch and click video a few hours ago, looked for yours like crazy, and couldn’t find it. Thank god you just did, now im gonna try and mod my keebs like yours!! Great win and video!!
Thank you! Hope it works out!
amazing work... now i want to do the same mods to my keyboard
Wow this is super good
Thank you!