Adam Savage and Fon Davis Talk About Working on Star Wars!
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- Adam sits down with his friend and former colleague Fon Davis of Fonco to reminisce about working on special effects for the Star Wars prequels, with all its moments of triumph, tedium and terror. Adam also presents a classic example of ILM modelmaking: a T11 Skyhopper maquette he made ... that (spoiler alert!) George Lucas unfortunately didn't like.
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hi Adam, "thought you might of been involved in movies",
'Jealousy' and 'Hate' are unpleasant emotions. We all know that. But I can safely apply them to how I feel listening to these two icons and their extraordinary experiences. Truly amazing. Lovely to watch. And as everyone else has said: "More! More! More!" (please - and with sprinkles on top)
Sooooo... what IS the colour!??
More of these shoots plz
@@Rustbukkit69 If I had a guess it would be Tamiya 85032 TS-32 Haze Grey
More of that please! Adam visiting old friends talking about ILM days is always fun. Anyone that will sit down with Adam to chat about their early careers would be high on my list of watching. And it's better than the podcast because they can have props or models to show off and talk about too.
Yes, lots more of that, please!!
Adam has been mentioned today on Corridor Crew react to the video, also Grant and Tori -
- VFX Artists React to THE MUMMY Bad & Great CGI apparently Adam worked on a 4 ft Sphinx miniature! I would love to see Adam go to them as a guest and react to some of the other work he has done etc!
This is about 2 hours too short.
I want MOAR. I could listen to this type of conversation forever.
Moar?
@@ray-beam Moar!
MOAR!!!
@@ray-beam MÅR!
Literally came to the comments to say this conversation needed to be like 40 minutes longer.
more of this please.
I've heard so much good stuff about Fon Davis over the years that seeing him here for a few minutes makes me feel like I've spent a moment catching-up with an old friend. Kudos.
Thank you for the comment -- we love Fon. More from our visit to Fonco coming soon!
I love these stories, it's how part of how my childhood was formed
Omg, the man the myth and legend himself! More of this pls
More videos with Fon forthcoming!
Absolutely agree!
I'm privileged to be Facebook friends with him. He's great.
@@cryophile Right????
I could binge watch 24 hrs of this content no problem!!! I need you to do an ILM in the 80s Masterclass!
Thanks for mentioning the TIE fighter paint!
So… what was it?
I would like to know what paint it is too.
Bandai have it as Neutral Gray (XF53)(70%) + White (X2)(30%) + Blue Gray (XF18)(small dose). But would be nice to know what it actually was (if not that).
Tamiya haze gray was on a star wars forum , but to me as I have used that color . It seems to be to dark of a gray!
This would've been the perfect opportunity to bring back Untitled. This needs to be a much longer conversation. I would watch hours of this!
I wish this was longer. I got to build a model next fon once. Most amazing time ever
This should have been at least an hour, i love to listen to those stories!
Adam we need more of this kinda stuff.
More of this. Loved watching For and Adam talk shop.
I really love this type of video. Hearing such enthusiastic professionals talk about their experiences in such a niche, important part of the film history is a pleasure.
The OT/PT Star Wars Trilogies are brilliant thanks to George Lucas and the ILM team. I saw the Prequels in theaters growing up.
Could you two please...get in the same room with a camera or mic and just keep talking like this for another..200 hours? I would watch it all.
Out of all the crap-ton of Tested videos I've watched over the past year+ in the pandemic, this is my favorite.
SO - WHAT's THE COLOR???? I have 5 or 6 TIE models sitting in a closet waiting for the right color to be painted. Thanks!
I've heard you mention this Fon Davis several times and now that I see him he's a cool ass dude I hope he wants to do more videos thanks Adam and crew :) Also that line about Star Trek "we worked it all out a long time ago" was solid. Utopia baby! We should be so lucky!
Best video in a long time.... so you talked about it but never said what color the TIE Fighters are!! Please tell us simple model making fans!!
Being an aspiring film model maker kid in the 80's and a pro in the 90´s this really takes me there, when I stared at ILM's pictures and knew all the names of the modelers by heart. I really enjoyed this piece! PLease more and thank you
I have only one question: WHAT COLOR‽‽‽‽
This could be an hour long and it would still not be enough.
11:52 So what color was it? I want to paint mine the right color as well. Question, if they are blue-grey, aren't that interfering with the blue color keying?
WHAT? That was nowhere near thirteen minutes! Jeez, I could listen to you guys talking about this stuff ALL WEEK. Thanks.
So what is the real color of the tie fighters? Inquiring modelers wanna know :)
Ok, so what is that actual "official" color????????? Probably some discontinued paint like Floquil....
It's called Stormy Sea, Archivexpaint sell it
What color was it!!!!! He never said what color the Tie Fighter was!!!
anti climax. I was waiting for the exact colour name on the Tie fighters.
I live in Australia and it’s 12:10 am
This video is good. More of this please, I like the video more then I thought I would.
Adam Savage Model Reminiscences
~ASMR~
I would love you to talk more with old colleagues about your days model making and such like. Its great to experience it
And now we're all wanting to know, at 12:00 what colour is it????
One question, why was this so short. Huge fun. Thanks
One of my favorite classes while attending Academy of Art in SF was special fx model making.. just good old kit bashing and other hands on model making techniques.
Fon was doing the Lord's work by restoring that Star Destroyer. Bless you.
Adam you need to have more interviews of the model makers of ILM. Many of these craftsman are getting old or have died, it would be a history lesson of ILM!
Thank you Adam, and Fon for doing this video, I love how both of you are so excited to talk about this stuff, you sometimes talk over each other, Ha ha ! It reminds me of when I and my art friends get together... you both give lots of great stories and info.. Thank you for sharing ..
Man I'd love to see that Skyhopper used somewhere. I want one!
I love that Sovereign class ship you got in the background. I know ILM made that, did they make the Akira Class (Thunderchild) or the Nova Class?
The interesting thing for model makers like me that work on kits that aren't studio scale sized is trying to replicate greeblie detail that looks "right" when there isn't anything quite right in size or shape.
For instance, when adding details to the 1999 Eagle for Series 2, Brian Johnson's guys added stuff to the models. I tried to emulate those added bits on a half scale MPC Round 2 kit which had the Series 1 details. The original bits appeared to be from 1/35 Tamiya armor and 1/72 (probably Airfix) aircraft kits. So for my added details I used 1/72 to 76 armor bits and 1/144 airplane bits to replicate what my research showed. Fun stuff.
So.... what was the color he used? You can’t give a story like that and not tell us.
It's called Stormy Sea, Archivexpaint sell it
Please!!! More with this gentleman. I could listen to these stories all day!!
slight problem... if they over exposed the tie fighters in Star Wars... then they must have over exposed everything else... why wasn't there a color change in... say.. the X-wings or Millennial Falcon, etc... And why when the special editions came out did the Tie Fighters look the same color as the originals. The Special Editions were completely redone... like the battle scene at Death Star.
So what color was the tie fighter?
SW vs ST - read something once about scratch building ships - "Trek greeblies have to have a logic to them. You can't just glue on a golf ball and call it a fuel tank. It has to make sense in-universe."
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This is so hilarious! Because as an engineer we always bitch and moan that greebles don't make any engineering sense! It's obvious that its done by artists and not engineers. And the long pipe and little box is exactly that :D
We'd either run the conduit under the hull and through the hull into the box. Or control it using RF, assuming that box had to be there, because it woud make sense to keep it in the cluster :D
im currently working on the Kenobi series and its just amazing. its so cool to see what you masterminds do.
This video should've been twice... No. At least THREE times as long! Super engaging!
... or maybe following in his (Steves) fingerprints :) Interesting discussion about the differences in Starwars vs Star Trek model making. I think Adam was talking about what George Lucas referred to as "The Used Future".
OFF TOPIC (but Adam relevant): Love to see Adam do a video about Veritasium's latest subject as it is like the Doctoral Thesis version of Mythbuster's "Airplane Treadmill". Not the exact same subject but very closely related in many ways from subject to experiment.
Adam's 54th birthday is in exactly 2 weeks (July 15th), so happy early birthday!
I don't know, by showing this T-11, someone somewhere might just contact you so that it can become a canon thing. If nothing else, chuck it over to EC Henry and he'll give it some extra lore, and he'll chuck it over to a buddy and make a nice computer rendering with all the colors and blinking lights and whatnot, maybe even have it screaming down some canyons on Tatooine.
And THAT was what was SOOOO convincing to me that Star Wars vehicles were REALLY a "real" thing when I was a kid! They always looked well used and weathered,showed signed of being repaired. (When you first saw Luke in his X Wing ,it looked several years used and a battle veteran for sure. ;) ) Cool stuff !
I like the prequels
Awesome! I should’ve been raised on the west coast…movies, model making, skateboarding, and Metallica. Thanks Mr. Savage I love your vids.
TIE interceptor sitting nearby. My favourite SW fighter since 1983 :)
My brother from another mother Sean Sides built the most accurate recreation of A New Hope version of the Millennium Falcon in studio scale. They’ve had him drag that thing from Denver to LA twice now to display with the restored motion camera and mount.
He always tells me I was his inspiration for going into studio scale. I say BS, but hey…
LOL! I love the car/truck leaf springs on the impulse thrusters of the Klingon battle cruiser for the first Star Trek film. Classic ILM. Polar Lights copied them pretty faithfully. I felt like the motion control model was supposed to look like a filthy dusty Russian submarine.
geeks, geeking out. so much fun. For me it was removable disk drives platters so large that when you wrapped your arms around them your fingers wouldn't meet. these platter stacks (10? platters) would go into a washing machine sized cabinet attached to the mainframe by a flat ribbon cable wider than your spread fingers.
At DECUS Wizard sessions stories were told of configurations still running after earthquakes had separated the raised floor. A different kind of geeking out. so much fun.
Can I give a gigantic SQUEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!?!!!! Thanks for this, Adam & Fon.
I loved everything about this video... except that he brings up the IDing the most mysterious paint color in the Star Wars Universe, every Star Wars model builder in the world is on the edge of their seat, and nothing. How could you do that to us? Sorry, Adam. Thumbs down. You know better, right? CRY.
So what color are TIE fighters...? It has to involve Tamiya air superiority blue...?
Really enjoy how to make models and the stories and backgrounds.
but for when I am painting my own star wars figures (from the Boardgame Imperial Assualt, and Star Wars Legion)
A part of me wishes I had gotten into model making as a profession, after watching one of these videos. But it quickly becomes more and more clear that it can't possibly be all Star Wars and Star Trek model making...a lot of the time it's probably just horribly tedious, long hours of deadline terror...mixed with bouts of "Why did I pick this line of work?" 🤣
Very cool to listen to some of the guys responsible for the details in movies that have brought me so much entertainment and joy. I love to see more interviews with some of the 'greats' of the model making world. That would be fantastic. Cheers!
Edit:
I think I read somewhere that George Lucas was an avid hot-rod fan and that a lot of the designs for personal vehicles took their design themes from cars of his era. Also that the Tie Fighter design is based on the rear axle of a drag racing car. I don't know if that is true, but I really want to believe it is.
My introduction to the small pieces of tech protruding from various machines and crafts came from early Marvel comics. Kirby and the guys did an awesome job of making things look both foreboding and functional. I can really appreciate the difference between the Trek and Wars approach to this. Wars had everything with a "just used yesterday" appearance, like a bus in Manhattan. Trek was often "white room clean."
that was a fun, fine chat. i learned plenty. Salute to Adam and Fon.
reminds me of when a program manager at a former job was showing a potential customer our best apogee engine (rocket)
he grabbed it around the combustion chamber and ruined it's $500,000 vapor deposition crystalline coating (takes months)
he knew a fly could walk on it and leave a trail, but....
Oh man. The T-11 is perfect. It’s the exact right way to go about it. Shame George didn’t like it
Growing up I thought something like ILM was the ultimate goal for me in life. Growing up east coast it was tough to view what I needed to do. I got into photography and got a BFA in graphic design. I helped pioneer the CGI lab at my college. I worked for a game company that had contracts with Lucasfilm, Paramount, New Line; I went to the Skywalker ranch. The day came when I lead from a west coast studio offered me a job on the spot to work on Star Trek Voyager, and I turned it down. I had a new house and new baby; another guy they did take was out of work again in six months. I guess I'll always wonder about the career I turned my back on, or perhaps I dodged a bullet.
If you look closely at SpaceX Starship, you will note that it is COVERED with real world Greeblies!
I know it’s the wrong franchise, but I love the Enterprise-E in the background :) 🖖🏻
It’s fascinating to listen to you reminisce about making models for Star Wars. Thank you so much for sharing.
that was a really nice conversation, loved it! and the bit about the star destroyer just conjured up the scene of Norm crashing the gigantic lego star destroyer into the death star with Will shattered...
Roundtable memories of Cinema, Modelmaking, and ILM. 👍
What paint??!?! omg he didn't say which paint is the official TIE colour! Come on. :(
The only thing I didn't like about this video is that it wasn't longer! Wish I could hear you guys talk for hours
The paint is called 'stormy sea blue' a discontinued color from PACTRA
7:02 When I was in school for visual effects in the early 2000's I never heard the term "greeble". I learned that several years later. We talked about nurnies. I came to understand that nurnies took up space and had to look like they served a purpose but greebles could be just random shapes to fill in blank space and make it more visually interesting.
So, Revell's next Star destroyer "museum quality" comes in bags? ,)
I still have my pictures from that display in DC. And vividly remember that Star Destroyer!!
you're not going to tell us what the TIE fighter's paint color is?!?!?!?!!?
Really....only 12 minutes? Come on! If you're going tonhe filming talks with old friends their needs to he an hour minimum!!
The problem with George's reaction to the T11 is that the prequels are supposed to be just that. Yes, there were computers and better model-making materials available for the prequels but they ended up with all those smooth Worlds' Fair kinda ships that seem entirely anachronistic.
Surpassingly cool and interesting. Ahem, only 12:50?
What a great guy! Although such a bummer this video wasn't 12:50 hrs. instead of only 12:50 minutes. :(
So what you're saying is, you had a Hasegawa/Tamiya buffet... Pictures?
Okay? So what color are the TIE fighters? I always figured it was a Luftwaffe blue-grey, but…..
That Tie Interceptor looks so nice ... I'm a bit bias as the Tie Interceptor is my favourite Tie fighter. Love the videos about model making and the stories from ILM are great.
Also I think someone needs to get Adam to build a machinen Krieger (sorry for spelling) kit or 2. They are right up his ally for quality and the uniqueness.
YES ! Finally! Greebles! NOT greeblies! Thanks Fon.
This was WAY too short. Could have been 10x as long and I'd still be watching.
I remember when the special editions came out, I rented the original movies (in VHS tape) the day I was going to see the corresponding movie just to have a fresh frame of reference for the changes
Longer, longer, more, more please, longer longer more more indeed yes please thank you 😊❤️❤️❤️
What was the color for the TIE fighters?
So close. I was on the edge of my seat. Annnnnnd nothing. sadface
He touched the part of the model where the paint was wet to make you re-do something and learn to focus on it. A very subtle "wax on/wax off" kind of sneaky lesson.
That star destroyer story is horrifying. Seriously.
Not enough , I could have watched for hour's.. love it