Having to learn how to use my 4th axis on the 1100 by my self because there is no other info from Tormach this and the last video was a great help. And how you worked all that patch work out is beyond me.
Love it! would love to see you machine that part on the Tormach 4th axis. I am contemplating buying the 4th axis to bid a few jobs instead of having to make the parts on a manual lathe...
I'm a huge Fusion fan boy (perhaps closer to a fan old man), but this is where Fusion just pisses me off! I'm a total hobbyist absolutely not a professional machinist at all, so I qualify for the free Fusion license. To support this excellent reasonably priced product and to possibly get support if I need it I chose to buy my standard license. The result is I've lost the ability to do 4th and 5th axis as that is included in the free license and in the ultimate license, but not the standard license. So for trying to do the right thing and support this wonderful product, I get penalized! I do have a 4th axis rotary table collecting dust and I was looking at the pocket NC 5 axis machine, but I can't generate tool paths for this with my license so I can't utilize it. I still love Fusion, but I get cranky whenever I see a 4th axis video. There is no way I can justify the expert license as "playing" with Industrial machines is enough of a waste of money as is.
Brand new here to this topic. I'm overwhelmed by all the videos and wonder if there is a recommended list of videos for the brand new guy to watch to get up to speed?
I'm digging the series, and thanks for the tutorials. All I've seen so far is convex toolpaths on a cylinder, but is it possible to do a wrapped, concave toolpath?
When machining the continuous area... I think I would have made the one tool path that goes 1/2 way around... then made an array from it to go 3 times... every 120 degrees basically. That would have given plenty of overlap and acted as a finishing pass. Or... I would have created the first path... made it slightly smaller on the edges... then did an array... same thing, less overlap on the cuts. (But hey... still learning Fusion, so what do I know.)
Would I need the Fusion Manufacturing extension to mill a wrapped feature? My 4 axis mill has the 4th as positional only with F360, I’d need to pay for the manufacturing extension to do simultaneous 4 axis movements.
Because of the tool radius and it not making a perfekt 90° corner, shouldn't the chamfer contour also follow this "new" path? Otherwise it might run into a lot material. Or is this just the simulation not getting this straight?
Why can't one make a tool holder that can spin 360 degrees accurately and move left and right accurately, it would make it so much simpler for the program to do this job.
John, you're over complicating a two op job. some of the work needs to be done on the lathe and some on 4 axis, you get way better surface finish and much cleaner and easier to machine part. In theory it can be done in real life not really your part will come out really badly finished. thanks for the cam examples its always fun to learn new things. keep up the good work
I can't see a world where its quicker to mill a cylinder than to just turn a groove. Finish, tool life, reliability. Realistically the way to do this is with a live tooling lathe.
panaxion dude, this is a part for production most likely. If you're making this in your home set up it will never come out to tolerance or finish quality. So yeah you can most likely make it if your machine is rigid enough and even then you're lucky if you get a 250 surface finish. That's my 2 cents.
Hi John, what's wrong with turning? A small sub 20k lathe will bash this out in 1/10th the time you just spent messing around in fusion, even programming in g code. As a professional, isn't this something you're more interested in? I understand what this channel is about, but at some point surely the business has to come first.
Samuel Stone it wouldn't be a very good 4-axis tutorial video if he just turned the part, would it? And making good videos are a part of the business as far as i know.
There sure is! But it's a programing-example in a tutorial video, not necessarily the the best fastest/best way to machine a part. It might be useful for someone, even though its rotational symmetric
1. John is not really a pro (some years ago he didnt know the diference between a lathe an a Mill) 2. John doesnt have a bussines income properly ( he survives tanks to sponsorships)
That derived toolpath for a contour is great - didn't know that, thanks John!
Having to learn how to use my 4th axis on the 1100 by my self because there is no other info from Tormach this and the last video was a great help. And how you worked all that patch work out is beyond me.
Great video, I almost had a lot of that figured out but I may have never gotten there without the video. Saved me hours of trial and error. Thanks.
AWESOME! Check out the new www.nyccnc.com for more Fusion 360 videos
Love it! would love to see you machine that part on the Tormach 4th axis. I am contemplating buying the 4th axis to bid a few jobs instead of having to make the parts on a manual lathe...
Thank you for making these videos…lifesaver running a 4 axis lathe F360
First NYC CNC video title in I can't remember how long without an exclamation mark :) Really interesting to learn about ModuleWorks.
Man, I love your channel. Very informative AND entertaining too. Keep up the great work!
Great video, love it. Thanks for sharing - waiting for some chips
So, it's been 2 years since you posted this video and Fusion STILL doesn't have the ability to wrap a toolpath 360º! Are they just fucking with us?
Really like the light bulbs!
I'm a huge Fusion fan boy (perhaps closer to a fan old man), but this is where Fusion just pisses me off! I'm a total hobbyist absolutely not a professional machinist at all, so I qualify for the free Fusion license. To support this excellent reasonably priced product and to possibly get support if I need it I chose to buy my standard license. The result is I've lost the ability to do 4th and 5th axis as that is included in the free license and in the ultimate license, but not the standard license. So for trying to do the right thing and support this wonderful product, I get penalized! I do have a 4th axis rotary table collecting dust and I was looking at the pocket NC 5 axis machine, but I can't generate tool paths for this with my license so I can't utilize it. I still love Fusion, but I get cranky whenever I see a 4th axis video. There is no way I can justify the expert license as "playing" with Industrial machines is enough of a waste of money as is.
They now only have one product. "Ultimate".
Not sure if still applicable, but just make another account and log into that instead.
I'm ready to see the machining!
Thanks bro I relly injoy bay watchining your videos
Brand new here to this topic. I'm overwhelmed by all the videos and wonder if there is a recommended list of videos for the brand new guy to watch to get up to speed?
I'm digging the series, and thanks for the tutorials. All I've seen so far is convex toolpaths on a cylinder, but is it possible to do a wrapped, concave toolpath?
This video just saved my ass thanks man lol was stuck
And now I'm reminded that I need to get my 4th axis working.
Great Vid dude. Thanks for sharing.
When machining the continuous area... I think I would have made the one tool path that goes 1/2 way around... then made an array from it to go 3 times... every 120 degrees basically. That would have given plenty of overlap and acted as a finishing pass. Or... I would have created the first path... made it slightly smaller on the edges... then did an array... same thing, less overlap on the cuts. (But hey... still learning Fusion, so what do I know.)
CAM genius. Thanks!
Why not do it the way steinwerks shows how to do it it quick and easy
Would I need the Fusion Manufacturing extension to mill a wrapped feature? My 4 axis mill has the 4th as positional only with F360, I’d need to pay for the manufacturing extension to do simultaneous 4 axis movements.
Wow the new intro and motion graphics look fantastic!
Can you make a tutorial about CAM on conic cylinder with spiral?
How about walking around and simultaneously plunging to part off?
Because of the tool radius and it not making a perfekt 90° corner, shouldn't the chamfer contour also follow this "new" path? Otherwise it might run into a lot material. Or is this just the simulation not getting this straight?
Jannik Kramer if you want to chamfer you have you pocket, contour and chamfer using the same edge loop and wrap radius for each toolpath.
U saved my life ;D
Thanks
John, DID you ever solve for the problem @ 1:37 ? is there a video that addresses this issue ?
The fact that autodesk still havent fixed this blows My mind
What happens if you extend the patch so it touches itself and use that?
Could you be able to farm out the 4th and 5th axis stuff off the hop if you really needed something better?
The programming that is.
Anytime will do anything for enough money... So, yes
I just want to drill holes with fusion
Why can't one make a tool holder that can spin 360 degrees accurately and move left and right accurately, it would make it so much simpler for the program to do this job.
I need to link to download fusion 360 program
John, you're over complicating a two op job. some of the work needs to be done on the lathe and some on 4 axis, you get way better surface finish and much cleaner and easier to machine part. In theory it can be done in real life not really your part will come out really badly finished. thanks for the cam examples its always fun to learn new things. keep up the good work
I agree with you, in theory. But we don't know how the part is being finished. It may be tumbled and powdercoated for all we know.
I can't see a world where its quicker to mill a cylinder than to just turn a groove. Finish, tool life, reliability. Realistically the way to do this is with a live tooling lathe.
For me as a semi-pro hobbyist, I have a cnc mill with a 4th axis, I do not have a cnc lathe... so beggers can't be choosers.
panaxion dude, this is a part for production most likely. If you're making this in your home set up it will never come out to tolerance or finish quality. So yeah you can most likely make it if your machine is rigid enough and even then you're lucky if you get a 250 surface finish. That's my 2 cents.
because he is a hobbyist
he barely distinguishes a lathe of a Mill
lol
Hi John, what's wrong with turning? A small sub 20k lathe will bash this out in 1/10th the time you just spent messing around in fusion, even programming in g code. As a professional, isn't this something you're more interested in? I understand what this channel is about, but at some point surely the business has to come first.
Samuel Stone it wouldn't be a very good 4-axis tutorial video if he just turned the part, would it? And making good videos are a part of the business as far as i know.
Theres pleanty of uses of 4th axis that arnt rotationaly symmetrical...
There sure is! But it's a programing-example in a tutorial video, not necessarily the the best fastest/best way to machine a part. It might be useful for someone, even though its rotational symmetric
1. John is not really a pro (some years ago he didnt know the diference between a lathe an a Mill)
2. John doesnt have a bussines income properly ( he survives tanks to sponsorships)