The Saga Continues! Reid Dukes It Out in the Vintage Cube Top 8!
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After beating the competition with a powerless deck last time, can a powered Izzet brew win the Top 8 of Reid's Vintage Cube league?
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since you're asking for comments, I think Laelia is the clear pick since she's a house in UR as well as aggro. excited to see how the games go =)
Also a decent wincon with breach (and Dig through time).
@@romeomargot-picquendar1281 wow didnt even consider that yeah
Probably wouldn’t have taken the breach as it didn’t seem to fit what you were doing, probably as you were considering during the draft dig and miscalculation were probably the better choices however it was a difficult draft with a lots of decisions.
Your draws were not kind and your opponents deck was insane and probably very difficult to beat in any circumstances.
Thanks for the content Reid, especially posting games where do don’t end up doing so well, makes us realise you are humans as well!
I hope LSV'll never know you passed a Tolarian ACADEMY!
The fact that he could've also had LED + Breach and Parallax Wave is pretty funny too
@@henryzelman4541 Unless LSV is in your cube personally, that deck is always open
The pack had two Tolarian Academies, unfortunately he took the one that didn't work as well with all his talismans
I think Academy would have been pretty good too. We could have had Saheeli and Iconoclast to go with our Academy plus a bunch of talismans
Wow Reed! That gamble for game 1 match 1! Terrific gut play. Good to see you enjoying yourself. Next time you’ll get that Worlds trophy and become a Jund staple!
I am not sure there was anything to be done about this draft considering the opponent's deck. I think the only thing I might've done differently in your shoes was take the triome over the breach. I think at that point it just made more sense to buckle down and try and be a twin deck. Without either, or both of, Frantic Search and Brain Freeze(one of which wasn't taken in pack two, and the other wasn't seen at all iirc), I just don't think Breach is something I want to put in my deck. Admittedly it did a good job scraping a win out of a hopeless game 1, but it was pretty dead in the other two games.
Like you said though, really hard draft position to figure out what is the most correct way. Was definitely a fun watch!
Haven't watched the games yet but I think you nailed the draft and deck building! Your reasoning for taking Pestermite(?) over Tinker makes perfect sense and I agree playing subpar artifacts would've weakened your deck. Same for Urza over Academy. And I was really happy to see Goldspan make the cut--hope you land it turn 2!
Seems to be an awesome deck. I'm no good enough to make any adjustment on your deck but I would go for Dig over Fact maybe.
Each cube, draft or game you play is just a masterclass. Luis, Gabriel, Jean-Emmanuel and you are great teachers.
WOW REID IN THE THUMBNAIL LOOKS MORE EXCITED THAN WHEN HE WINS TOURNAMENTS
Interesting draft and build. I would've built around the twin plan differently, cutting Mastermind, Iconoclast, Urza for Rona, Dig and an 18th land (17 colored sources + strip as 18th land in a spell slot). To me this focuses the build more on finding the combo and enabling the GY synergies to do so.
Maybe Urza is better than the 18th land since it also produces mana. This deck just doesn't seem to support Urza all that well, but maybe too powerful to cut?
Before seeing the rest of the video so I don't end up being results oriented:
I would include at least one more talisman because your mana is so bad. The ramp is relevant alongside the fixing. I just want more than 9 sources of each color, the color requirements in your deck are pretty demanding and you won't always draw lotus. Plus, you have Urza in your deck. Getting extra artifacts in there is nice, and it's not like you're forcing it: you have a high curve and high color requirements.
I don't think I'd play breach because it's basically only good when you draw lotus, and you probably win those games anyway. I'd just play the dig instead. It lines up a win even when you don't have a black lotus in your graveyard, whereas if you have a stocked graveyard but it's counterspells, burn, and card draw, you need quite a bit of mana to get any value, whereas dig only needs 2.
So I'd say -1 breach, -1 fact or fiction (it is a bit slow, and you'll never get both of the combo pieces from it), +1 talisman, +1 dig. I also really wanted to see Laelia over Subtlety in the draft. Subtlety is a great card Laelia just feels like it's on a different tier to me. I would even have considered lotus petal. You have 4 pieces of a 2-card combo, so being a turn quicker can be worth a lot in such a fast format, and with Urza it's like a mox. It's also just a double color mana source which again, I feel like your mana is so poor that it's worth having card disadvantage for ramp and fixing that can come in at an opportune time. That being said, I don't know what I'd cut for it. Maybe Goldspan? It's a great card, but your deck should win the game on 5 mana most of the time, so it might be redundant.
edit: after watching, well, it's funny that you drew both my suggested cuts in games 1 and 3, but I don't think the situation would have been any better for you, and you might not have won the first game without the breach. Your deck was great, but opponent's deck seemed completely busted and they had great draws as well.
with the stripmine in hand I was very curious to see you not even mention the ramunap excavator in pack one to lean towards green
Yeah I totally agree with your decision(s) to both take and cut Tinker. Honestly you drafted almost identically to what I would’ve chosen, given your specific pool of packs. To add to my first point, I think you could have POTENTIALLY pulled off a more Artifact heavy/Tinker deck assuming you started with Goldspan/Bonecrusher and Black Lotus and Tinker.
I would have picked the tinker and, as you explained, end up with a terrible deck. And yes, Titan of Industry's abilty would have fizzled since all its targets would have been illegal. Thanks for the vids!
Since you asked, I would have played Rona, Clique, all three Talismans and 16 lands. Talismans fix your high red cards, clique checks for combo safety, Rona digs for combo. Fof is expensive and can split your combo up, breach is only good with 2 or 3 cards and doesn't infinite. Let's see how it goes!!
For a comment on the deckbuilding, 1 of those offcolor talismans might have been good. Red for kiki, arti for urza, accelerating combo a turn. Maybe both even. You are better at this than me, but you asked for comments!
Dude drew ancestral in first hand 2x and found it in game 3, i love when you add cards to your deck and dont see them in 6 games
I think after the Urza pick, I'd have been looking to maximize the artifacts, especially as you had ins for Iconoclast, Saheeli, and Walking Ballista; there was a very fast, powerful artifact deck to have here, especially if you took the early upheaval
Before watching the matches, I think you navigated the draft masterfully, always great to see a great player discuss their train of thought while drafting Vintage Cube, I might have taken the Laelia out of my own greed though.
It’s crazy how many variables you’re juggling in these drafts. I go into every draft head empty lol
I think i would have speculated a bit on saheeli once i have urza, those two go really well together, and since later on you got passed a bunch of good artifact synergies, i would have gone down that route. Like, you even could have gotten a really late LED over a spellpierce, and that plus black lotus and breach is just awesome, and i think i would have gone for the tinker too, tho thats a bit more sketchy i guess.
Passing that Tinker when you have Bolas's Citadel AND Blightsteel just can't be right. Pestermite/Twin is such a fragile combo too while Tinker is a one-card combo that just needs any artifact in play and you already have a decent amount.
i wouldve picked the triome for sure and probably wouldve played the dig to help get the combo faster......like you said very difficult draft with a lot of turning points. I think you were right to pass on the tinker since blightsteel can be unreliable and citadel didnt seem so good in your deck. thanks for the content. you should get you own channel like LSV im sure people would watch you play legacy and vintage cube, i sure would
OP had a heck of a deck man, sweet draft none the less tho. A few duals woulda helped a lot but honestly you didn't even see many, just a few in that last pack. Good game!
I think my biggest disagreement in terms of picks is that I would have gone for Bowmasters in pack 2. Seems like an easy splash since you already had 2 black sources at the time. But I'm not saying it would have been better.
Would had been very good against the Ancestral Decks.
@@MiauZi69 Also would have had a real late Underground Sea, but obviously he didn't know that then.
I would have gone with the Ramunap Excavator in p2 to go with the Strip mine, which probably would've been incorrect. Other than that an amazing draft, good luck next time!
Clique seems nice to check their hand before you go for the combo. Probably over Goldspan.
I would've played dig through time over the underworld breach to find the combo easier
Reid Duke, master of the mana crypt!
I definitely would have taken tinker over pestermite. You already had the blightsteel and a solid artifact base.
I also would have picked laelia over subletey just because a t1 laelia off lotus will win most games.
Tough draft though, there is a parallel universe where you have an absolutely busted mono white deck with strip mine, skyclave, spellbinder, ancient tomb, parallax wave, reprieve, lotus. The packs just lined up weird.
i would have taken the dual lands, with next to no questions. the only card competing with the triome was the probe in my book
Dig over breach imo, like you said it works as double demonic tutor most of the time in a 40 card deck
Hi Reid! If I were in you, I would have considered lands higher and pick Bowmaster to splash
It's a nice deck, but not playing Vendillion in Twin is just trolling (and makes Juta Takahashi physically sick).
Doubt I would have ever ended up with a cohesive strategy like you did, but on really specific points it wouldn't have bothered me if you passed Breach and those cards don't look like they can make Breach anything more than a regrowth on a consistent basis. It irked me when you took the breach. Laelia seems to be the other controversy point, taking her would've been fine. Tinker maybe I would have taken because it really would be auto-wins.
First game was insane
I'm not convinced Reid Duke has ever made the face in the thumbnail except to specifically make this thumbnail
Reid soyfacing in the thumbnail is going to be all I think about this weekend.
Even when drafting Izzet you're still drafting Jund. 😂 Solid draft.
Pack 3 was fucking insane
THAT PACK 3 LUCK THO!
This entire game is luck. I promise you can draft the same exact deck, and the algorithm wouldn't let you draw that hand.
That Tolarian Academy was really unnecessary to pass on... Maximum punishment would've ended up a helluva a deck with Saheeli and Iconoclast. Time Warping and Candelabra, a bunch of artifacts and powerfull spells... jeeeeeeez
Damn that game 1 mana crypt win
Could have been a sick jeskai deck. All the fixing was there too
Subtely over Leilia?!?
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I believe you’ve stuck too much on your first pick which eventually was one of your weakest cards in pack 1. Blue white tempo, red blue tinker/sneak/flash or tolarian academy/Saheeli etc, all of those would be much more powerful than measly twin combo.
Not playing lotus petal with Urza in the deck is sketchy… when Urza is out, LP is straight up Mox Sapphire… and with your fixing being pretty bad (nonexistent) petal would have been good…
Your opponents deck is crazy busted, gg
So someone else builds and Reid plays em? Cause Um that build is um 🙈
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Could've gone Pestermite the forest daze the ancestral G1
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Reid where do all these new user keep coming up from? It's a 100% increase?! MTGO needs to teach me how to market!
Are these all fake comments? The mtgo crowd seriously cannot be that oblivious to how rigged this game is.