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  • @maddymusevt
    @maddymusevt ปีที่แล้ว +464

    Obviously the best answer is that Ghostricks' boss monster, Ghostrick Divine Arsenal ZEUS -Sky Thunder, was made too generic for it to be used in not good decks

    • @rivershen677
      @rivershen677 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Wait, ZEUS is part of the ghostrick archetype? I thought he was THE ZOODIAC ARSENAL ZEUS - SKY THUNDER

    • @jakethereaper2060
      @jakethereaper2060 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      wait it isnt Lyrilusc Divine Arsenal ZEUS -Sky Thunder? I thought Ghostricks main boss monster was Ghostrick Utopic Draco Future

    • @mattbaltimore7195
      @mattbaltimore7195 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Zeus wasn't made for Ghostricks though.... Zeus is good Ghostricks are trash.....

    • @rivershen677
      @rivershen677 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      @@mattbaltimore7195 Bro the joke thread flew over your head

    • @CrnaStrela
      @CrnaStrela ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Bro?? I thought Zeus belongs to exosister? Its name was literally Exosister Divine Arsenal AA Zeus

  • @logan5018
    @logan5018 ปีที่แล้ว +383

    Man, how ironic it was that the death of Utopia's potential viability was numeron. I guess Don Thousand truly had the last laugh.

  • @hawkticus_history_corner
    @hawkticus_history_corner ปีที่แล้ว +245

    God, I feel so bad for Chronomaly. If they had came out a tad earlier or if they had gotten Nebra Disk earlier, they would been more than a one note gimmick.

    • @Dz73zxxx
      @Dz73zxxx ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Imo not only disk, trilithon is also crucial, since disk is heavily restricted on normal summon (konami you did our stratos dirty)

    • @hawkticus_history_corner
      @hawkticus_history_corner ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Dz73zxxx At time of release Disk probably would have been enough. Barely, but probably

    • @fudouakio4759
      @fudouakio4759 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Dz73zxxx Trilithon came out wayyyy more recently than Nebra Disk
      The support Chronomaly got was perfect but its still sadly an awful deck that loses to a handtrap. If Nebra came out early, maybe there woulda been more incentive to keep it relevant earlier

    • @Zurenza
      @Zurenza ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fudouakio4759 Play it in master duel with a bunch of going second cards and cards like Crossout Designator. Your only goal is to get Chateau Huyuk and Machu Mech out while going second, this results in an OTK if your opponent has a monster with at least 1800 attack. 1800 Burn, 4200 from Machu Mech and 2k from chateau. Assuming you can punch for game with Chateau.
      The deck can still pull out surprising OTK's and going second with a deck full of going second board breaker's and hand traps that stop other hand traps+crossout, it's fairly consistent on masterduel(Got to platinum with both this and constellar, diamond was too hard though).

  • @rhysjonsmusic
    @rhysjonsmusic ปีที่แล้ว +426

    If we had gotten Heat Soul at the same time as the OCG @Ignister wouldve unironically been a top tier deck

    • @rafaelrios7060
      @rafaelrios7060 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      was it a top tier in OCG?

    • @rhysjonsmusic
      @rhysjonsmusic ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Rafael Rios yea I definitely remember it getting alot of tops

    • @zawarudogaming3961
      @zawarudogaming3961 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      @@rhysjonsmusic well, in OCG Emptiness was legal and you can search it with Alembertain. So The Arrival are basically invincible

    • @OsirusHandle
      @OsirusHandle ปีที่แล้ว +1

      there were a few months the deck was up there but it could never have been top tier while its plan was kaiju turbo

    • @SDREHXC
      @SDREHXC ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@OsirusHandlehe plan wasn’t Kaiju turbo, it took advantage of heat soul to draw insane amounts of handtraps in a format that is inherently slower due to maxx c

  • @sebastianlacerda
    @sebastianlacerda 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    That last take about Fire Kings aged nicely

  • @mesiagamer5217
    @mesiagamer5217 ปีที่แล้ว +265

    That chronology one you used as an example hurts my soul as it had a good Chance in Duel links... Except they didn't add their rank five...
    Edit:Yes they did have spark of hope however that unfortunately quickly faded...

    • @ErosIRL
      @ErosIRL ปีที่แล้ว +18

      It actually wasn’t bad. I played it, and it could’ve been a lot better if the skill didn’t limit you to “light number xyz” monsters only

    • @LynnLyns
      @LynnLyns ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well... it wasnt that bad but at least were playable for half a format

    • @Rahnonymous
      @Rahnonymous ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Imagine adding an xyz era archetype without the xyz

    • @charlesfort6602
      @charlesfort6602 ปีที่แล้ว

      Damage step
      Chain Link 1 Huyuk
      Chain Link 2 Concentrating Current
      Best otk deck in the game

    • @rescuerex7031
      @rescuerex7031 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      wasn't it like one of the best budget decks for a long time since the Chronomaly event

  • @auroraseppel6204
    @auroraseppel6204 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    Frightfur Patchwork, my beloved. Tiger into Kraken into Fusion for Wolf and attack 5 times could have been so good.
    IF IT WASNT RELEASED IN THE MIDDLE OF TOSS

  • @lamiaprincess6371
    @lamiaprincess6371 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Rooster was never hit in either the TCG OR OCG, the card they were thinking about was Spirit, which was a TCG only pre-hit to Fire Fist.
    kind of annoyed lol

  • @GodzillaFreak
    @GodzillaFreak ปีที่แล้ว +127

    In the OCG you can't scoop unless the opponent agrees to let you scoop. I think that's what they're referring to

    • @dhanyl2725
      @dhanyl2725 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      That's just needlessly cruel lol

    • @nellewoodruff6337
      @nellewoodruff6337 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Victory dragon op!

    • @eminiclam
      @eminiclam ปีที่แล้ว +56

      P1: can i surrender?
      P2: NO
      P1: but...
      P2: I said NO, you are gonna watch my combo and you are gonna like it!
      P1:........ok.

    • @vxicepickxv
      @vxicepickxv ปีที่แล้ว +16

      It's critical to the no limits OCG meta. Dragonlink and Tearlaments are the top 2 decks.

    • @yasharthpandey6317
      @yasharthpandey6317 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      @@dhanyl2725 It's because there is no official surrender in the OCG. It's not in the rules. So, if you want to surrender you have to ask your opponent to make an informal agreement, and they can just disagree to do so. This caused people playing against Victory Dragon to perform illegal actions to receive game losses instead of match loss via Victory Dragon.

  • @sallas09
    @sallas09 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Back in late 2006, Chaos Sorcerer was still ruling the roost, and the best decks were all finding different ways to best utilize him; Chaos Return, Recruiter Chaos, anti-meta Macro Chaos, etc. etc. But there's a version of the strategy that had the potential to be absolutely insane, but we just never got to see it due to both timing and UDE's restrictions on when new sets were legal for SJC events. Power of the Duelist released mid-August and gave us both unerrata'd Future Fusion, which let you reveal the fusion monster and bin the materials immediately, and also Chimeratech Overdragon. Both Future Fusion and Chaos Sorcerer were unlimited at 3 copies, so you could create a machine-based Chaos deck that would let you either OTK with Future/Overload Fusions by dumping every machine in your deck, or you could at the bare minimum send a Cyber Dragon and a Dekoichi/Cyber-Stein to instantly get the materials you need to summon Chaos Sorcerer. You could do both with just one Future Fusion, which was unlimited. And Dimension Fusion, Return from the Different DImension, and Giant Trunade were all unlimited as well! I think this could have been the best deck in the format, bar none.
    Except...if my memory serves correctly, UDE had a rule for SJC events stating that new core sets would not be legal for these tournaments until the start of the month following their release date. SJC Hamilton occurred during this time, but considering the top-placing deck wasn't on a single card from the set, I'm assuming it wasn't allowed. And then, sadly, the banlist that came out on September 1st, the day that POTD was legalized, banned Chaos Sorcerer and limited Future Fusion, ensuring that Chimera Chaos would never actually exist. If you were lucky, maybe you got to play the deck at locals during that two-week period, but on the highest stages of competition, it just came at the wrong time.

    • @Shadowx157
      @Shadowx157 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That sounds epic, I was playing around that time, and you're right Chaos Sor. got hit shortly after chimera got released

    • @xCorvus7x
      @xCorvus7x ปีที่แล้ว +5

      sounds like we barely missed a nuclear meltdown, thank god Left Arm offering didn't exist back then
      (considering Offering's release in 2016, the style of the card art seems surprisingly close to cards released fifteen years prior)

    • @manporo5865
      @manporo5865 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's not what happened. It was used in Regionals and locals a lot, but at the time, it came out players also had an answer in side board for it, Swords of Concealing Light. I even remember beating one with Zombies structure deck constructed by just subbing 3 copies in. That strat was pretty lackluster compared to most other.

  • @epicbuttcrack15
    @epicbuttcrack15 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    yeah dude, imagine FIRE KINGS being good. would never work

  • @ja-nathen
    @ja-nathen ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Joseph, I had a nightmare last night but the only thing I remember from it was someone saying “Amongussy” and I’m blaming you

  • @babrad
    @babrad ปีที่แล้ว +23

    D/D/D could be on that list twice.
    The lvl8 turbo build could easily demolish sky striker thanks to Shizuku's arrow (not wasting materials), and it had anti-burn built-in for Trickstar. It even had some tops in the OCG with Swirl at 2. But it missed Big chungus (High Genghis) since it was released in SoFu, ALONG WITH THUNDER DRAGONS AND GOD FORBID LEVI (pre-BaCh support you couldn't play pure because of Levi and D-Link despite the deck having an incredible VW matchup)
    Then we waited for Gilgamesh for almost 2 years, which came along with Halq and Verte.
    Moral of the story: When Delayed D/D support is coming, it always brings tier 0.5 broken stuff with it

    • @chucklesdeclown8819
      @chucklesdeclown8819 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      thats pretty fair, luckily we get random tops once in a while because its still a tour de force(guardna top 16 is the most recent example), i still question the most random support that gets released for it though(pardon while i write this up)
      i mean i laugh because it has the wonkiest anti pendulum cards.
      a kind of bubble man like card(not the same but has a similar draw 2 if condition is met in pandora).
      stone king darius which for some reason is earth and it is surprisingly lackluster for a D/D/D extra deck card even if were talking d'ark which is pretty much only used for its level.
      the proud brothers being odd pendulum recycle cards and some others being similar.
      D/D recruits, reroll, and human resources being odd recycle cards that are all traps for some reason that just dont work cause D/D/D's don't really stall out enough to do them. pendragon for some reason needing a dragon to summon despite none of the cards being such.
      nighthowl being the worst tuner to exist in the deck and goes unused.
      apocalypse and requiem always being in this odd position of extender(at least ive always felt personally weird about those 2 monsters)
      Armageddon being this weird battle monster
      dark contracts that are also pendulum recycle and oddball effects depending on the extra deck monster you summoned.
      contract change being an in archetype battle trap
      forbidden dark contract with the swamp king which give you barely any benefit over the normal ones with worse costs.
      along with surprisingly half decent in deck cards D/D/D basically never play even if they are surprisingly good and searchable because their combo variant D/D/D's are better(D/D dog, supreme king kizer(i mean the literal first variant of D/D/D's i built was kind of kizer turbo OTK, i should know. why hes not a pendulum monster is my thing with kizer), i think the new D/D/D/D card will be one considering reji is already great and played in the deck now, and if i recall there is 1 or 2 more but i could be trippin)
      D/D/D's if you aren't looking at their mainline cards and even their slightly sidelined ones is such an oddball archetype of dark fiends.

  • @chiropteran2966
    @chiropteran2966 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    that last jab at fire king has aged somewhat poorly

  • @TheOmnishamblesGaming
    @TheOmnishamblesGaming ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Everything is beatable if you jank it up enough

    • @SaintoftheHonest
      @SaintoftheHonest ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Everything is beatable when Cimo plays it in History of

    • @Sketchisawesome
      @Sketchisawesome ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SaintoftheHonest secrets of eternity

    • @DRAPION54
      @DRAPION54 ปีที่แล้ว

      I remember tring out an OCG deck that involved Dark Simorgh and Utopic ZEXAL when I got my copy of the latter from the Jump promo.
      It was ok, I remember losing to Ghostrick in dueling book with the lock active.

    • @idosarts_and_krafts
      @idosarts_and_krafts 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As an earth machine player
      I agree

  • @Freebird1994
    @Freebird1994 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Honestly, if war rock was released back in GOAT it might have reached all the way up to tier 2.
    Note: this is a joke calm down.

  • @katthemischievous2167
    @katthemischievous2167 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This thread has me interested in a set of tournaments/format with deck lists sorted by archetype release, but they have access to the full archetype. So like all archetypes from this year to this year. It seems a lot of these were "released too late" and Im interested in how theyd do without new busted archetypes that released when good support dropped for other decks

  • @Dragonmist19X
    @Dragonmist19X 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    That line about fire kings at the end...sure did age.

  • @Dz73zxxx
    @Dz73zxxx ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Chronomaly player in 2023 here. The later support is godsend, especially the combo disk - trilithon and tuspa rocket - acambaro figures, it makes the huyuk + machu mech combo more consistent. Also nibiru is unofficial chronomaly card (it synchronize so well)
    Bit more support for backrow interaction/removal would elevate the consistency more

  • @sp0nk272
    @sp0nk272 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Im getting that Bussy mat signed Joseph. I will get a job at Konami and then you cannot get me thrown out. You cannot stop me

  • @AussieRiolu447
    @AussieRiolu447 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Thanks for featuring mine. One thing I didn't mention since I ran out of characters: Since Dark World had a lot of their important cards being UR in different sets, it coined the term "Pay to Lose". Grapha 100% should've been in a Structure Deck EX in 2020 or something.

  • @stephen4006
    @stephen4006 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Mathmech was so unfortunate. It’s the most played deck in master duel right now, it really is damn strong support, just has the misfortune of coming alongside tears

    • @ethanbryan3748
      @ethanbryan3748 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is master duel's meta more OTK-centric?, I don't play the game much

    • @lilsunny7399
      @lilsunny7399 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ethanbryan3748 Mathmech with circular, just circular and god forbid you have extenders. Can end on IP: Masquarena with 2 monsters ready to quick link into Appolloosa, a trap that summons 3 from gy and immediately xyz summons Laplacian with them which sends 1 monster, 1 backrow and 1 random card from hand. Also if one of its materials happens to be diameter, it's an omni negate.
      Then yeah T2 its as easy as Transcode>Accesscode>win.

    • @CarlosGarcia-lo6xf
      @CarlosGarcia-lo6xf 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not totally but otk decks thrive more because its a best of 1, mathmech still puts up a good board going 1st but also can easily hop skip jump to lethal@@ethanbryan3748

  • @hakiboo
    @hakiboo ปีที่แล้ว +9

    i still remember how i was so hyped for Lightsworns when Minerva XYZ was announced. However they made it a price card and my LS ended up being unplayable by the time it was reprinted a few years later...

    • @GeneralNickles
      @GeneralNickles ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Zombieswarn was literally the best deck of BLLR format. what are you talking about?

  • @pickyphysicsstudent201
    @pickyphysicsstudent201 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    There was no Fortune Lady Synchro in 5Ds. Carly (the character who played them) got axed pretty hard in the second onwards because of her VA's complications with a cult. TBF, it was a 5Ds archetype with level modulation to adding a Tuner & Synchro would have made sense.

    • @nicholasfarrell5981
      @nicholasfarrell5981 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also, Fortune Ladies were one of those archetypes that only existed in the anime because Egyptian voodoo shenanigans (Carly's actual deck was Fortune Fairies) and the Dark Signers primarily (outside of exactly Rex) used Dark Synchros if they touched the Extra Deck at all (which Carly did not).

    • @philbuttler3427
      @philbuttler3427 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That thing about a cult is just fanon nonsense, she was in that cult years after 5Ds ended not while she was making the show. People just parot lies without actually doing research at all.

  • @oddob2erverygo67
    @oddob2erverygo67 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So I unironically think that if Ursarctic was released in a zexal era or early arc-v format they could have potentially seen some play as a rogue deck or an anti meta pick.
    Being able to shut down the effects of xyz summoned monsters + being able to search mst, dd crow, or book of moon on legs sounds legitimately solid in slower formats. The fact is summon large man is just too slow in any of the formats since their release. I could even see an argument for them being decent in mr4 formats.
    That said releasing a deck in 2021 that amounts to "here is one beefy floodgate that doesn't matter anymore with maybe some archetypal hand traps that require you to minus unless the field spell is up" doesn't sound like the best archetype

  • @kingcasual-casual-gaming-5366
    @kingcasual-casual-gaming-5366 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Speaking of Shining Dragon!! Not Only that. But, at least in Germany, Shining Dragon couldnt even be played THAN, because the original name in the effect of Shining Dragon was "Blauäugiger Ultra Drache" (litteral transl. "Blue-Eyes Ultra Dragon") which is the german dub version of the "Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon". So because it was printed with the dubs "original" name, it was UNPLAYABLE UNTIL IT GOT A REMAKE IN 2009!!!!!!

    • @vxicepickxv
      @vxicepickxv ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's even more impressive.

  • @NewtBannner
    @NewtBannner ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Dragon Link was already good but we got Borrelend 2 years too late, it would have been broken if didn’t come out around the time Lenatus came out

  • @amen123abcd
    @amen123abcd ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love watching these videos as a 'newer' player to to the tcg. Going from "I know nothing at all about yugioh except stuff from the anime" to "I now have a basic understanding of what is and isn't bullshit" is pretty nice. Now if only I played decks that didn't invite being shutdown in one turn and my life ended. Please stop bullying my Cyberdark Chimera I just want powerbond.

  • @keshersygo
    @keshersygo ปีที่แล้ว +6

    In spring 2015, we were poised to get a new super powerful dragon ruler deck with dark matter dragon facilitating massive OTKs and i breakable boards. it would have been able to easily compete with decks like nekroz, shaddoll and burning abyss…but then konami banned the dragon rulers the day dark matter dragon came out

  • @michaelroach3175
    @michaelroach3175 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Dire doing the "Don't insert yourself into the Twitter video" challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

    • @direYGO
      @direYGO ปีที่แล้ว +15

      commenter doing the "have an original thought" challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

  • @Dominator150395
    @Dominator150395 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Let's be fair, Frightfur Patchwork did still see a lot of play... in Branded Despia decks.

  • @bernardosales1044
    @bernardosales1044 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    just coming back here becuase of the final segment "fire king was gonna be so good"
    We are actually so back

    • @TrueHavoc13
      @TrueHavoc13 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Please don't come back again. It's been months

    • @bernardosales1044
      @bernardosales1044 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TrueHavoc13 WE'RE SO BACK BABY

  • @kauanjos3199
    @kauanjos3199 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mathmechs are a good example to this if circular came 1 or 2 sets earlier it would be undisputably tier 1, the deck only real weakness is Nibiru, it has a way better end board than despia it can play through multiple hand traps it only loses to Nibiru

    • @mementomori2365
      @mementomori2365 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well master duel got circular before either spright and tears and just became tier 1

    • @kauanjos3199
      @kauanjos3199 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mementomori2365 exactly

    • @saudmubarak1876
      @saudmubarak1876 ปีที่แล้ว

      I branded get a new support

  • @CloudStriiff
    @CloudStriiff ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm amazed Dire managed to get 8 minutes out of that one

  • @lkchaoui842
    @lkchaoui842 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Rlly happy to hear that Solemn is making connections with the Yugitubing community. Hope to see more content involving Solemn/0DMG!

  • @ungulatemanalpha
    @ungulatemanalpha ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Dragonmaid is a deck that goes absolutely bananas if its resource loop starts, and unlike most decks like that, it's also decent at OTKing, not getting OTKed, and has good generic access to things like Hieratic Seal. Of course it's insane in a format where half the games are non-starters for one player because of the earth insect.

    • @ducky36F
      @ducky36F ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Maxx C is also legal in Master Duel, and dragonmaid is still mediocre af on there too.

    • @thecharmingplatypus3208
      @thecharmingplatypus3208 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dragon Maid has the potential to go crazy at some point in the future but at current, it’s really cool, I really like the battle phase advantage stuff it does, but it can really only end turn 1 on a negate and 1-2 bounces, which just…. isn’t enough

    • @waiyon1951
      @waiyon1951 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thecharmingplatypus3208 we are missing some cards that gives us a more consistent turn 1 play.
      Dragonmaid has good grind game and staying power just not good at setting up the board to start off.

    • @TheCardTrooper
      @TheCardTrooper ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dragonmaid doesn't OTK well at all and it's not very consistent either

  • @DrAiPatch
    @DrAiPatch ปีที่แล้ว +3

    War rock would be so good.......... If they did revolve around the most useless phase of the game

  • @Ragnarok540
    @Ragnarok540 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    At least mathmech is extremely playable in master duel, and will stay that way until spright and tear are released.

    • @gatocochino5594
      @gatocochino5594 ปีที่แล้ว

      RIP

    • @gaarafan89
      @gaarafan89 ปีที่แล้ว

      Start the countdown. Konami just put out a banlist hitting both Union Carrier and Toadally Awesome

    • @DrAiPatch
      @DrAiPatch ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gaarafan89 Tear is on the way and they limited Shifter......... I might be taking a long break from Master duel.

    • @xatuyou8045
      @xatuyou8045 ปีที่แล้ว

      You mean until bystials are released.

  • @jameszetterman4487
    @jameszetterman4487 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I will never get tired of BTAS style MBT title cards.

  • @Gamemaster13000
    @Gamemaster13000 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Blue-eyes Ultimate wasn't in the TCG until 2008???? I figured that card would be released as a boss monster in Kaiba's first structure deck.

  • @LethalAscend
    @LethalAscend ปีที่แล้ว +1

    why call a judge? are you not allowed to wash play mat?

  • @artisticcannibalism1350
    @artisticcannibalism1350 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm probably biased but I personally think that Dragon link is partly to blame as for why Dragonmaid flew under everyone's attention here in the TCG. To be specific a trend that I've noted is that every time a new dragon card or Dragon support card comes out, the discussions rounded it are focused primarily on how well it fits into combo decks specifically Dragon link.
    I've seen more than a few people dismiss Dragonmaids specifically because they were seen as suboptimal for Dragon link. For so many people live in flat-out never occurred to them that a dragon card could be used in something other than combo

    • @TheCardTrooper
      @TheCardTrooper ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's because Dragon Link's engine is superior to Dragonmaid's.

    • @artisticcannibalism1350
      @artisticcannibalism1350 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@TheCardTrooper That right there is exactly what I'm talking about, this is why we at the TCG couldn't understand why Dragonmaid was seeing success over at the OCG.
      We completely misunderstood what the deck was trying to accomplish because of how dominant combo is here.

  • @renownerd.276
    @renownerd.276 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    6:20 ACTUALLY, Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon was released in North America in 2006, in a special bundle with a tiny Shonen Jump Magazine. Dragon Master Knight was released around the same time in 2006 in its own little bundle, too. Though this one wasn't tied to Shonen Jump. I actually ended up getting that Shonen Jump issue in Wallmart, and so I did in fact have a Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon at the same time Blue Eyes Shining Dragon came out. . . Only. . . I got Pyramid of light. . . .

  • @yunogasai5479
    @yunogasai5479 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Earth Machine being overhyped ? Damn ... Been playing the deck for 2 years and right now , i actually only see 2 or 3 people in real life playing it..

  • @alexanderespinoza
    @alexanderespinoza ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The correct answer here is Trains. When Qliphorts and making Towers was all the fucking rage trains just needed the fucking ocg support to come in and fuck Towers up with the monster that can pop a card on field when it's detached. Same with the XYZ being able to be unaffected by other card effects and also the deck being incidentally great under skill drain. FUCK TOWERS. (not in a 9/11 way)

  • @DaniloBarbiero
    @DaniloBarbiero ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another good one is Neptabyss, the Atlantean Prince. I remember being a Mermail player in 2015 watching the deck top in the OCG eagerly awaiting the TCG release, only for it to come out in Breakers of Shadow alongside full power PePe

    • @GeneralNickles
      @GeneralNickles ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Full power pepe was also emergency banned like 2 weeks later.
      People were topping regionals left and right with Mermail after that.

    • @peekay120
      @peekay120 ปีที่แล้ว

      As a die hard mermail player since day 1 I can honestly say that if Neptabyss had come out at the same time as the initial mermail run in the tcg, mermails would have been pretty unstoppable, but as the other person said, mermail became really solid after PePe was emergency banlisted, and lets not forget how good it became once the Toad came out.

  • @smnc5355
    @smnc5355 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mayakashi zombie world Deck profile 🙏

    • @Ragnarok540
      @Ragnarok540 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just add the card that stops the opponent form summoning.

  • @lioninjawarloc
    @lioninjawarloc 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Fire king comment aged like milk

  • @samurexatlas7373
    @samurexatlas7373 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To be fair
    Utopia was never truly gonna have ZEXAL for long.
    Ascend searching Rank-Ups meant there was now a consistent way to make ZEXAL with 4 mats, which meant that ZEXAL would have to go regardless, unless you wanted locals for 3 weeks to be flooded by ZEXAL pass then just never play it because there was quick negation available that just... killed it.
    Yeah it would be banned for potential, not power.

  • @ianfitzpatrick3231
    @ianfitzpatrick3231 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hieratics got the snub ALL THE TIME!!! (Never got to play the deck full power with redmd at 3 and gustav being released. Gishki Hieratic got hit before we could play it in the TCG. ANNNND Dark MATTER HIERATICS.... Hieratic + Legendary maju garzett = Number 95 G-E DMD

  • @fadeleaf845
    @fadeleaf845 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember the pre-release hype for Vylon Disigma as an absolutely insane boss monster that is like Catastor on steroids with few ways to efficiently out for many decks.
    Unfortunately, the decks at that time weren't particularly interested in making Rank 4s. Dinorabbit had its negate dragons, but none of Wind-up, Inzektors or Chaos Dragons really wanted to play them. And by the time we got decks that have strong Rank 4 engines that could even make 3 material monsters effectively, Shock Master was out.

  • @VixYW
    @VixYW ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "But then Konami put text on the cards" is such a great quotable line out of context.

  • @ianr.navahuber2195
    @ianr.navahuber2195 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:08 what is tis a reference to?

  • @glacierwolf2155
    @glacierwolf2155 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I wonder, could we have a Twitter thread on what archetypes had cards that referred to other cards that are non-existent in their own archetype?

    • @NeviTheLettyFan
      @NeviTheLettyFan ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Certified Nekroz trap moment

    • @GeneralNickles
      @GeneralNickles ปีที่แล้ว

      I think theduellogs has a video about that.
      "Top 10 cards that don't exist" or something.

    • @glacierwolf2155
      @glacierwolf2155 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GeneralNickles I think that you are confusing that video, which doesn't exist, with Davinator1212's "Top 5 Cards That Don't Exist in Yu-Gi-Oh!" video.

  • @TrueHavoc13
    @TrueHavoc13 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oof that end bit hurts with modern knowledge

  • @phanquang7839
    @phanquang7839 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The problem with Exosister is in TCG their XYZ gy lock eff are mandatory, so if you chain to a Tear chains, the Asophiel will be the first chain and those Tear eff will be in cl2, cl3,...
    And btw Kaspitell also get Gamma/Ghost Ogre before the search cause she forced to use her gy lock eff
    Oh well

    • @andrejv.2834
      @andrejv.2834 ปีที่แล้ว

      But they're all optional, and even if you chained havnis to a gy lock effect, the potential tear names on a new chain wouldn't do anything since the first effect has already resolved

  • @Moo77717
    @Moo77717 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    8:43
    That one didn't age quite so well...

  • @kenthekhan
    @kenthekhan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I appreciate the batman animated crawling card reference.

  • @michaelburroughs9150
    @michaelburroughs9150 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A.K.A
    Horror music
    HASH Slinging slasher!!

  • @Gdrez
    @Gdrez ปีที่แล้ว +2

    chronomoly was good in DL

  • @LadyTsunade777
    @LadyTsunade777 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    As an Exosister player in Master Duel, there are no words for how extremely angry I am with Konami for _not_ giving us Malfa, Magnifica, and Litania out of the gate.
    It's crazy how many times they've put an archetype into Master Duel without all their currently existing support. Look at Dinomorphia for another example. There is literally no reason to not just put the entire archetype in at once.

    • @darkshot7797
      @darkshot7797 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This is a travesty, an absolute travesty of the highest order. Sky Striker has bloody Linkage, that came out with the Ishizu cards, and Exosister cant get support ported to Master Duel that was released 6 MONTHS PRIOR. Its a fucking joke.

    • @DrAiPatch
      @DrAiPatch ปีที่แล้ว

      As a Rikka player, I feel this. All I want is princess damn it!!!

    • @Pythonomorpha_
      @Pythonomorpha_ ปีที่แล้ว

      @@darkshot7797 Linkage is a different case. In the OCG, Linkage debuted in "Secret Shiny Box", a promotional set that released around the same time as the Albaz Structure Deck, just before DIFO. The TCG just delayed releasing it for 8 months.
      If anything, Master Duel should've gotten Linkage a few months earlier, along with the Witchcrafter and Mayakashi support that also debuted in Secret Shiny Box.

    • @darkshot7797
      @darkshot7797 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Pythonomorpha Oh, I wasn't aware. I guess the moral of the story is Konami has absolutely no timetable in localizing anything ever.

  • @furkankocaman356
    @furkankocaman356 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well the reason dragoon wasn’t that good here is becuz it got released when we had droplet ocg only had dark ruler at the time and if u look at their lists they were siding it but that’s becuz orcust was the best deck and ding outs dragoon but yea

  • @AllBeganwithBBS
    @AllBeganwithBBS ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Although Ishizu/Tearlament is indeed a huge issue in terms of power level, I came to the realization that the Bystials are just as bad if not worse. Hopefully Magnamhut and Druiswurm get hit at the same time as Tear.

    • @juvenileygo
      @juvenileygo ปีที่แล้ว

      Dd crow should stay at 3 copies not 18. The only fix is to unprint all the bystials

    • @esbernhawkins5912
      @esbernhawkins5912 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@juvenileygo I think the worst part is that the D.D. Crow eff of Bystials is the _least_ problematic part of their design. They're bodies on board, they're beefy 2500 ATK beaters, they have card advantage out the ass, they're level 6 for some fucking reason, they extend off of their owner's GY in the worst case scenario... it's just ridiculous. You even have Bystial Ball Breaker coming out that just gives them a fucking turn 0 extra deck monster removal on top of everything else, it's ridiculous. I get that chaos typing has always been strong, but printing an entire archetype that says "fuck you, stop using the second hand we forced your deck to revolve around" was a terrible way of handling things.

  • @ducky36F
    @ducky36F ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Based on the amount of OCG players running Dragonmaid in Master Duel in spite of it being terrible Ima just go ahead and say it was always cope and only topped over there because of the sheer number of players playing it..

  • @adamushu
    @adamushu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not that its good, but i was waiting for subterror guru to come out so i could play it with behemoths for what felt like years, maybe it was idk. When it finally came out it became known for guru control.

    • @186Soup
      @186Soup ปีที่แล้ว

      I feel that. I played subterror since they came out. First I built them with metalfoes and it was fun, then it evolved to fiendess behemoth turbo/synchro box, and then it finally evolved the deck to guru control.

  • @xatuyou8045
    @xatuyou8045 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The other thing that makes mathmech unplayable is they made an archetype full of dd crows

  • @Silver_light77
    @Silver_light77 ปีที่แล้ว

    appreciate the fortune lady representation, even if its misrepresentation. every and the fortune fairies did not make the deck good, but at least it made them a functioning deck that didn't rely on the weird outdated field spell

  • @Smallsmallrose
    @Smallsmallrose ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Labyrnth and Runick without the POTE powercreep? I wonder how that would have go-oh wait. Master Duel.

  • @peekay120
    @peekay120 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I honestly feel like if Fire King Island and Arvata had been released at the same time as the Fire King structure, Fire Kings would have been a pretty serious tier 2 contender

  • @GodzillaFreak
    @GodzillaFreak ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lmao zexal was no way banned for numeron, it was preemptively banned for exactly utopia

  • @michaelgjrjvebs
    @michaelgjrjvebs ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It wouldn't have made them meta or anything but not getting avendread savior for ages made vendreads even worse. Also zombie's would have liked having the additional zombie deck pitch during their brief stint as an antimeta threat

  • @indiemercenaryproductions707
    @indiemercenaryproductions707 ปีที่แล้ว

    My cousin and I went to see the movie he ended up getting the blue eyes shining dragon and i got the magician. We used to have to pretend he could fuse the ultimate dragon just so he could use it lmao. Forgot about that.

  • @type-moonfag4413
    @type-moonfag4413 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    crystal beasts were rogue in the ocg when the pendulums and conclave came out. how long did those take to come over here?

    • @alphanbuster9292
      @alphanbuster9292 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      that was in the thread, mbt skimmed it

    • @type-moonfag4413
      @type-moonfag4413 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alphanbuster9292 neshy seething right now

  • @mateusrp1994
    @mateusrp1994 ปีที่แล้ว

    Utopic Zexal wasn't really hit because of Numeron, but because of the Utopia support itself. Numeron is a kinda shit deck that just dies if it gets interrupted in any way, but the Utopia support made it a decent combo deck, so you could back up Utopic Zexal's stronger than VFD floodgate effect with a monster negates, spell negates, and a searchable counter trap omni negate.

  • @GeneralNickles
    @GeneralNickles ปีที่แล้ว

    I will forever despise Konami for making Yang Zings miss timing.
    They wouldn't have been the best deck of Duelist Alliance by a long shot even if they didn't, but missing timing meant they stood no chance against the other 4 DUEA decks. It was just too easy to make them wiff.
    They could've been meta contenders though. Not missing meant you could run shit like generation shift to dodge effects and gain advantage in the process.
    But Konami said no...
    Missing timing is the stupidest mechanic in the game, and it needs to go.

  • @Team-Eclipse6024
    @Team-Eclipse6024 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know people might say that Mathmech has lost its shot, but I would point out that we still do not have a Mathmech Beta, Trigonometry, Logarithm, Factorise, to the power of, binomial expansion or ALPHA yet.

  • @VakovoSheggorri
    @VakovoSheggorri ปีที่แล้ว

    I disagree! Therion Empress gives Pure Reptiles access to an easy field nuke! Granted, it's not that good. But turning earthbound immortal lizard into an almost free (and reusable) field nuke is pretty neat!

  • @jacobstandeford7113
    @jacobstandeford7113 ปีที่แล้ว

    Joseph you leave CAT alone.. I had a lot of fun in Nekroz format playing them when we finally got them 🤷🏻‍♂️ lol just better hope you have the veiler for Trish 😂😂

  • @victorleppas3067
    @victorleppas3067 ปีที่แล้ว

    Talking about card announced but release years later in the TCG ... DDD link 2 release after MR5 after the awful MR4 who make this deck unplayable.

  • @OizenX
    @OizenX ปีที่แล้ว

    You know this is just a majority of Duel Links sets. Almost all of them flop because they dont do a good job vetting cards for the format. Shout outs to them adding Aleister in the release of DSOD world, and then every single banlist for the next year and half basically being targeted to fix that mistake.

  • @MontyNorman-y6e
    @MontyNorman-y6e 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Remember be careful with anything electric as they could be harmful and or lethal to you and or other people and or start a fire along with causing other things.
    Remember be careful and stay safe.

  • @trueblueryu5713
    @trueblueryu5713 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:34 2 and a half years because Ultimate Dragon was technically legal, if you had it via the Shonen Jump Jan 2007 promo… mind you that this still doesn’t make Shining Dragon a good card by any metric

  • @xCorvus7x
    @xCorvus7x ปีที่แล้ว

    7:00 Block Dragon in Megalith? How would you play that? Megalith generally doesn't like its Rituals banished.

  • @turtle-bot3049
    @turtle-bot3049 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Would have been good, but then Konami added text to the cards".
    Literally insert any rogue/fun/casual deck here and its a big F.

  • @Sad-Lesbian
    @Sad-Lesbian ปีที่แล้ว

    War Rock legit probably would have been Tier 0 if it had come out in LoB.

  • @eu4um
    @eu4um 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This might be one of the worst aged Twitter Threads.

  • @thatguywiththehat6957
    @thatguywiththehat6957 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I won a rooster from a Facebook contest held by coretcg and felt so bad after I got it and rooster got hit..

  • @FALCONLICK
    @FALCONLICK ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredible strong in a vacuum but unfortunately sends to the graveyard is a great line

  • @ravaniphoenix5431
    @ravaniphoenix5431 ปีที่แล้ว

    This just highlights a major problem with the TCG, to he honest. This management is ass.

  • @brokenearth7079
    @brokenearth7079 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm new so I'm guessing mbt stands for "mystical based typhoon"

  • @frankunodostres473
    @frankunodostres473 ปีที่แล้ว

    ok I'll finally ask
    what is the mascot in mbt's intro supposed to be?

  • @TheFourthBlackReaper
    @TheFourthBlackReaper ปีที่แล้ว

    Pot of Grussy was not what I was expecting to be exposed to today and I am in pain

  • @holynacho17
    @holynacho17 ปีที่แล้ว

    every pre-2018 fluffal player: "if i had patchwerk ..."

  • @behunter215
    @behunter215 ปีที่แล้ว

    I tired telling people that chronomally was ass but no one listened

  • @kite4801
    @kite4801 ปีที่แล้ว

    i literally just got my snake mat in the mail and now u have a code :/

  • @kidumby7599
    @kidumby7599 ปีที่แล้ว

    God not even 30 seconds in, can you leave Dire alone for five minutes

  • @billyjean8176
    @billyjean8176 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah yes, my favorite yugituber. Man Bat Tron.

  • @eko_cvz5254
    @eko_cvz5254 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never thought I'd see the day Solemn sponsors MBT

  • @zerealzlimzlaney8057
    @zerealzlimzlaney8057 ปีที่แล้ว

    but MBT that’s not fair please sign my bussy mat

  • @Spikezillian_
    @Spikezillian_ ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Harpie's would've been insane in 2013 if Dragon Ruler didn't come out in the exact same set they got amazing support 😔