Same boat as you Bea, I found out a day ago from Leon Todd, its rubbish. You rock though, you're my favorite player on YT hands down and your noodles make my arm hairs stand up.
If they wanna prove themselves being real doing this type of stuff just set up the shot so that we can see the daw with timecode rolling in the background recording the audio. This is something that is common in many pedal demos etc but something you NEVER see in these technical/speed focused videos.
@@darioperez181 And that's the way to go if you wanna go into that speed trial game or whatever you wanna call it (to me it's kind of attention seeking silliness, it feels like sports and music isn't sports, but each his own). A clock is a bare minimum for these kind of videos (could be added in post). A screen with the actual waveform being recorded along with readable running timecode is the gold standard. Or you know, keep your head in the frame and let your freak flag fly. If someone would go ahead and fake headbanging long hair I would be seriously impressed. :D
These online learn to play the guitar in one hour and the rest is just another con-game to get your money, The newest one out I think is FENDER and its very expensive and its an online with software you have to buy, than you have the EZ chord which is laughable and than chord buddy some offer guitars at reduced prices and one man bought one and when he hooked it up the damn thing burst into flames, One online company went as far as to say that if you buy their online course they will make you the next JIMMY PAGE,OR JEFF BECK in a week,
I think I'm too sloppy to fake this good lol. I will say I know for myself what I do is record lots of takes(for a song) from different angles and use the audio from the best one but use video clips from all the angles. I guess that's technically fake in a way, but the speeding up that is just insane.
Robert Baker I don’t think doing what you do is fake at all man! Not just because I know you - and you’re a wonderful human being haha! You’re totally transparent and authentic and you are 100% playing what people hear. It’s the mad editing, the Guitar Pro files, the speeding up etc. which is just mental.
I agree with Jack. Not fake what your doing rob as I follow you and watch your videos. I see it as your creating a decent content video and showing all angles like a movie. You haven’t edited your playing to speed it up.
Robert Baker to be honest, it’s kind of the opposite. Obviously if someone is changing camera angles that’s a great chance to pick out the best part of a take. But the sound of the playing is truly you. That’s genuine. It doesn’t set a false hope or standard so you can profit off of people trying to improve their skills.
Yeah that's called editing, not fakery. Aren't all TV and movies made that way? The point is that Robert is legitimately editing to help guitarists learn and improve. Fakery is to convince people that some lie is the truth. Very different.
Talking about Lucas Mann huh? Let me make it clear to you. Lucas just made an entire video of him playing the godless time's sweep, and Manuel just played at Tosin Abassi's booth at namm
Man.. I'm a 26 year old guitarist and I can't express what I'm feeling right now watching your video. Every time I came across a fake guitar playing video, I used to think "Damn, can people really not tell what's going on?".. To the point where I would doubt my own hearing. Countless times had I been tempted to go the comment section of those videos and type "This is fake" and risk being called bashful or jealous or whatever. But I now literally understand what it means to have "Faith Restored", because now I know that there are people who notice this stuff, and you, Jack, have taken the first step towards creating awareness around the subject. Thanks for this, and props to all the guitarists you mentioned along Rick Graham, Stephen Taranto etc..
Alain Ibrahim, you can easily tell weather a guitar player is faking or not by their right hand motion. If their right hand is moving way to much, you can say that it's a fake. I mean, yeah guys like Rusty do have a lot of right hand movement, but the fakers have something totally different.
The only human being that should matter should be urself and this goes for every individual. Sure this sounds selfish but its so true, who cares about these fakes, eventually they'll get whats commin to 'em.
@@DoktrDub it's actually called perfect technique. People forget the fact that, when they can't play that fast, it's because their technique is not on that point. So if you play fast with imperfect technique, you will sound sloppy, or if sped up, you will look really funny.
This video is a breeze of fresh air ! This nonsense guitar faking is killing some players motivation or self confidence, just like photoshopped pictures did for people hating on their own body. Thanks for sharing, and happy to have seen Kadinja’s guitar players in the list ! Cheers from France ! 🇫🇷
@@zendakk I think the main problem is that it encourages people to act stupid and nasty. There is little consequence most of the time. Most people wouldn't talk the way they do online if they were face to face. Social media makes it easy to be an asshole to anyone and everyone.
I remember reading that before Yngwie could shred, he would record himself to tape and speed it up, just to hear himself playing at the speed he was practicing towards. Obviously, he then proceeded to put the hours in and he increased his speed naturally until he got there. In 2019, we can all skip that last part! 😂
Ross Campbell That last sentence... ❤️😂 I’m worried that we’ll lose the future ‘Yngwie’s’/crazy technique guys with this crap. A guy I forgot to mention in the video is Sims Cashion - 19 years old and shredding like Rick Graham legitimately. There is hope... 😬
The story was a bit different. Yngwie practiced both in his house and in the shed in his garden. He would record in the shed and bring the tape into the house, practice and record again. As he told it, one of his recorders ran a little faster than the other, causing him to increase his speed just a little more than he was aware. Over time this led to him getting really fast. Or so he said.
What I love most about this video is the balanced perspective. Sure, there's usually some degree of fakery in the studio for the sake of art and expression; lack of transparency, however, is a problem. For instance, Metallica makes no secret of the fact that many of their classic tracks were recorded measure by measure. At the same time, they're not afraid to go out and fuck up a little during a show, or sometimes, even in the studio. Personally, I'll have no issue using some editing tricks to enhance my recordings, but I don't claim to be a virtuoso when I'm not.
I always wondered how did these guys edited stuff. Now I know, it is crazy... I guess if they spent the same time practicing that they did editing, they would actually play it. I does happen to me, specially when I see an improvised solo. It makes me feel like I'll never get that level of music knowledge, quick thinking and perfect execution. Thanks for pointing it out!
@@MrJirntson This is the problem with this drama, people are just gonna start calling out everyone they see as being "fake" now just because they're good lol
I love the amount of attention this "trend" has been getting lately. I haven't finished your video yet, so pardon me if you touch on this later, but another detail they add is being able to play it BADLY at full speed, or mime something close at full speed, to make the video not look jumpy, so the audio is fake but the video feels genuine. Even professionals release playthrough videos that aren't a real one take recording, just to save time on production. Really interesting debate we're having as the philosophy of guitar and music develops over the years. Great stuff man, love the video. EDIT: Great video all the way to the end. Checked out your channel, you're a crazy talented guy. Mad respect to you sir, you have more than earned my subscription!! And you didn't fake it ;)
@@aliasbam2750 The more you understand about theory in practice, the less improvising looks like dark magic. The more you 'get' fingerstyle, the less crazy arrangements that combine melody, harmony, vocals etc into only the guitar look like under water chess basket weaving backgammon.
He made it alot more obvious doing the video at 95, the recording at 120 and speeding up to 190. His strumming hand just kind of phases in and out of existence lol.
A lot of non-guitarists are perpetuating the problem with "Wow, this is incredible!". As soon as a faker says "I'm not faking, I swear!", the fans all go "See, I TOLD you it was real, he just said so!". Everyone has an opinion, but not everybody actually knows what they're talking about.
I see both sides to it. They need to be exposed, but these leeches feed off of any publicity. Whether its good or bad, it's all exposer to them. Not naming them means less traffic to their pages and potentially people liking their pages which is what they want.
I literally have no idea who’s faking it too???? Everyone I follow seems to be legit: Kevin Heinrich, Yo_onityan, 560000560000, Ichika, Miles Dimitri Baker, stephentaranto... I could go on
@@faustoorieta There are tons here on TH-cam as well. There are a lot of the "fingerstyle slap and pop acoustic" players that absolutely fake the stuff. You can clearly see in their videos that they are not even moving either hand in a way to make specific notes or noises.
I'm always surprised at how many people can't tell it's fake. Guitar playing is becoming like electronic music. We might as well just start using guitar vst instruments and programming in midi as it sounds the same!
I have such a hard time telling if those videos are fake, even with the spotting tips I get from videos like this. It's pretty crazy how easy it is to fool people in video, which just goes to show that just because there's video "evidence" that doesn't mean it's real.
@@SamOwenI I think the experience you need more than guitar playing in order to easily spot these are video editing experience. Sped up footage has a lot of easy tells.
I need to take my guitar out of the trash now, giving up thinking all these people are so much better than me after so many years never getting faster. Seriously, thanks for the info...
The feeling of playing something that you love and are proud of far outstrips the so-called gratification attained from doing this. The best music is that which is genuine and comes from a perspective of giving positive emotions rather than recieving them.
Man I never comment on anything on TH-cam but can I just say thanks so much for bringing stuff like this to attention! It's gotten so out of hand with some instagram players and I remember first seeing dudes like that play and being absolutely amazed that I'd never heard of them before... then eventually digging through more of their content and seeing that live they sounded nothing like how they did on their insta vids bahaha
I quite liked it. The sped up effect gave it an interesting sound that I feel could work good in an electronic context or similar. Like how some tracks use vocals pitch shifted to a point that would be difficult for anyone to perform live
Dejen de escribir en inglés pendejos, tienen nombres en español. Postdata: el tipo tiene un acento inglés (de Inglaterra) y Guthrie me parece que también es inglés, así que supongo que allí la semejanza.
As a (really small-scale) TH-cam guitarist, this was one of the reasons I stopped being too intimidated to share my own playing online. Thanks for making this video! It's easy to think you're the only person recognizing all the BS when no one dares to speak up, so it's nice to see in the comments that loads of others can also smell something fishy. Sadly faking does get people ahead when it comes to getting new opportunities, so I can see why people get tempted. Personally I think it's a form of lying and on top of that doing all that editing is way more work than actually practicing. My guess is some players' logic is, if cheating leads to more subscribers more quickly, that leads to endorsements and other opportunities more quickly. I am sure some players also assume that eventually they will reach the standard of playing they've always been presenting in their videos. So it's basically "fake it till you make it"... But if you don’t actually have the ability to play to that standard live when the time comes, it’s going to lose you a lot of respect. I have seen this happen with some players recently (not going to name names though). I don't think it's fair but it seems to be the way of the world. I suspect that the organizations handing these fakers opportunities also often know what’s really going on, but again they are looking at sales numbers rather than authenticity. It might just be fellow musicians (and not even all of them) and music aficionados not necessarily in the music business who really care about authenticity. This was one of the main reasons I had been dreaming of starting my own YT channel. It took me over a year to build up the courage to post my first guitar video, because as I started looking into making a channel I was way too intimidated by videos like that to post anything of myself playing online. But as I watched more of these videos I noticed the fakeness - Not just in speeding up videos, but also players using new camera angles/takes for every part of a song because they didn't practice enough to be able to play the whole thing through in one go, or players saying they've learned something by ear but somehow they're fingering it exactly like the wrong tab I just checked on UG... Yeah, it's sickening! Not only did it piss me off, but by being aware I could adjust my own attitude. And there may well be a lot of people out there cheating less noticeably; I don't think I'd be able to tell something was sped up 100% of the time, or whether mistakes were pitch-corrected or overdubbed, etc. Even on some of my favorite records I can hear where several takes on a solo got cut and pasted together, and I suspect on some records some tracks may have been sped up slightly from their original recording speed (best case scenario: once the artist has actually learned the full song, they play it even faster live and it sounds better than on the album). Just being aware of some of these things really helped me get over that fear of starting my own channel and actually playing electric guitar with an amp. But if you flip that argument on its head, the fact that people are cheating means that despite their success, they can't genuinely reach the standard they set for themselves, and in a way that's really sad. Being aware of that can be encouraging when you're building up the confidence to showcase your own playing to others. I can play full songs live and record them without needing to edit them. And although I'm not "the best/fastest/cleanest of all time" I am happy with the level I am at and the fact that I am still improving, learning more, and especially that I can also make some other people happy by playing guitar for them. I can be happy and make others happy without the need to be the fastest or most technical player to have ever walked this planet. I hope anyone here reading this and looking at this video will get the same encouragement to be openly creative whilst being themselves. And since cheating only makes the industry more superficial and formulaic, I genuinely hope that any cheaters reading this start thinking seriously about how they are shaping the industry. It would be good for people who are faking videos to confess and come up with more authentic ways to contribute to the online music community. (Sorry for the long post, thanks for reading!)
@@inquisidor1 Right, Now jared dines did a vid on this and credited this video. I understand that Jared doesn't know much but I assume Jack made this vid because of Tom.
this wouldnt even BE an issue if guitarists didnt blow a load when they see someone play fast. Speed isnt everything. More players should understand the value of a SINGLE note first before they try any speed technique.
This. I remember when I was half the age I am now, I played something that was fast and intense and honestly wasn't that good melodically in any way. My father looked at me (noteworthy he's not even a musician.) and told me "What good is it if you play fast but the music sounds like crap? focus on sounding good, then if you want, play fast" I still don't play fast, I play at 160BPM of less. Make the note movement sound good, use the scale degrees to achieve the desired feeling and intensity, and play it for the sake of making something sound wonderful, not for the sake of impressing anyone.
This is an issue with literally every instrument. Flight of the bumblebee on piano, violin, fucking harmonica. It's the easiest crowd pleaser. It ruined the musicality of the song that I'm now appalled by the infamous intro everytime I hear it. It really isnt the musical people that fall for it. Its the clueless knobheads thst know nothing about music and thinking they know shit after they watch a youtube video.
The Charles dude from berried alive is the worst though. Even though Manuel speeds up some of his videos, he's still very talented. Charles is a complete fake and a prick.
@@anthonymaalouf8610 Geeez guys he is obv a good guitar player but he is so faking it in some of these clips I wonder that we even have to talk about it lol! Search for his guitar vid collection on youtube and take the second clip... slow it down to 0.50 or 0.75 speed and watch how much more natural his movements and the sound feel and then go back to normal speed and see how ridiculous this is hahahaha
Manuel Fernandes is a great guitar player, and you can tell he's not faking it within two minutes of watching any of his bands live performances. Don't spread misinformation. Yes, there are garbage players out there but he can play all of his shit. Edited? Sure. Fake? No.
Yah except I've seen dragonforce live and Herman li shreds in real life.. Not the biggest dragon force fan but I enjoyed the show and can confirm they can actually play it live
True!! I'm an experienced guitarist and tbh it never occurred to me they might be sped up or fake but jeeeez.. it did occure to me how shit they sounded ahahahahah
No matter how advanced technology gets, these fake people still can’t play with soul and make beautiful sound and that sound like human. And that’s why true artists will always need to exist. And this is why you should keep perfecting your playing and keep making music honestly. Thank you so much for this video and you are a true artist!
The sped up footage gets busted pretty quickly. The smarter ones record at a slower speed, then mime it. But they are still dumb when it comes to vibrato. Or are they simply taking the audience's perception for granted? Anyway, I'm loving all the exposition. It is time we go back to appreciating flawed, human playing. It is what got most of us into music, after all. Back to basics.
These Fakers should be called "Trendy Shredders" or something, as they are only in it for the Social Media Interactions and not demonstrating their ability on the instrument.
I've never considered shred guitar as actually playing just scales played fast and repeated at nauseous levels mindless notes that have no reason other than to take up space. It's like a practice session that never ends. Once the required finger tap starts I'm done every high school garage band has at least one guy who does this impressive if you're an 8 year old kid starting out learning to play
Nah, not for me, I love the imperfection of a live show, a missed note, a over pressed string...I Love that, that`s as organic at it gets, also, not a huge fan of those excessive uses of tappings, wanna play guitar or a fucking piano? :/
Tapping is usually used to add melody and using chords to add to the background. I personally use tapping because I can't move my left hand fast enough to add the melody.
reminder that there are other worlds of metal where precision and electronics are considered an aesthetic, so some users mentioned who may quantize their notes, its due to the scene they are playing for. i too love realistic and guitar music with a full blown natural feel, but i also get off on robotic, precise music that sounds insane.
I never 100% trusted the Instagram scene. I've been feeling frustrated for a long because of the huge difference between me and any guitarist of the same level but with editing skills and great gear. Since I'm more interested in musical knowledge itself I recognize I take maybe less time than I should taking care of these, but on the other hand most of the people overlap the presentation over the essence of the playing. This is something that has always annoyed me a little. But now I know they actually fake the speed (and it's not just they edit the sound quality) I feel fooled and very angry. I feel that all this frustration and bad feelings about my playing haven't been worth at all, neither necessary. I fear that this is what's going to happen or it's already happening with emerging guitarists like me who aspire somewhere, potentially outstanding people could even give up guitar because of this phenomenon. This is so sad.
My favorite uncle on youtube, ben eller did tons of free lessons on TH-cam despite having the theories and techniques at the back of his hand. No nonsense, no bulls, just straight up skills and knowledge
There is actually another giveaway, not flying fingers. No matter how your technique is perfect and practiced, when you speed up you tend to move fingers away from fingerboard more than at slow tempos. This is something I've been trying to minimize for years in my playing, so I have tons of recordings and boy, do they go away. Also, sometimes we tend to use easier fingerings.
This is a dead giveaway imo. If you watch players like Rick Graham and Jason Richardson who have insane speed and clarity, their hands look like they're barely moving because they have such efficient control. Fakers will be flinging fingers all over the place.
The saying goes: "If you learn how to play it slow, you will be able to play it fast." However it seems some players still haven't figured out that they actually need to play it fast, too.
I checked out that planet name video. The guys right hand was not what it was supposed to be almost every single time he came back to start a sweep. I have good friends that can actually play like that and they've been playing for about 35 to 40 years. Johnny and Freddy Demarco, Frank Romano , and many many others. I'm a 50 year old bass player and I started playing when I was 12 years old. Saxophone since 4th grade. Piano since I was 5. Ever since pitch and beat quantization came out I figured it was only a matter of time before some hacks figured out how to utilize it for live shows to Fane musicianship. It's a real slap in the face to people that have put in the work for most of their lives.
Every time I play, I get handling noise, the bending occasionally doesn't quite end up where it's supposed to and I'll even skip some notes on the longer runs just to get through it on time. I wouldn't change a thing.
Agreed - absolutely. I'm a bassist/guitarist with some skill with synthesizers and keyboards, and this issue is something that concerns me mainly because I am also a composer utilizing computer aided audio to cover any instrumentation for arrangements I create that I don't play. But this is not to say that I don't know how to compose for many different instruments. It isn't really creative, in my opinion, to just call up a beat from a preset and then use a tempo map to arrange it in a clever way, then groove up to make yet another hackneyed pop tune with a duration of 2" - 3: 30" that is so perfectly quantized and pitch corrected that it sounds as though I'm listening to a machine. It takes great care - time - effort ... to make any kind of computer aided imagery convincing, and even then it's never completely transparent. This is the reason I've decided to go back to recording guitars and basses again, which is something I haven't done since 2010. I've avoided these instruments in my compositions for lack of decent sample representations, at least until I recently licensed a very decent library. But even so, there is no substitute for a real performance, with all it's charms that are born of the very flaws that the Photoshop generation mistakenly, or malignantly tries to eliminate. For it is the grace of the listener or the viewer that makes the artistic experience real. But when the audience is intolerant, then the arts are overthrown by totalitarianism. This is still a very cold war indeed. Be vigilant. Only the truth keeps us free.
No shit. By the time they figured out all this recording stuff they could have gotten better doing it the honest way and actually learning to improve themselves. I guess this is why they are on TH-cam because they are actually to shitty of a player to play with people or live.
i wish my voice is like yours, lets sacrifice this fake guitar players to the eye of sauron in mordor. let them burn in the fiery pit. warlock master jack
#NoFap lowers your voice eventually, quite a bit. Mine sounds like of Chris Evans (Captain America) nowadays: th-cam.com/video/YKZFmP2EyAM/w-d-xo.html .
I like the added punch with how the description immediately suggests “guitar lessons” lol Also great video, this is shameful behaviour! How dare they disgrace a guitar like that :) maybe if they spent some more time playing guitar rather than practicing fake guitar audio/video editing then they might be better players, who knows but that’s just my opinion... Playing the guitar Is about being human, don’t fake the god damn guitar and try to pass it off as legit
I’m glad you brought up the root of this problem which is the whole influencer culture thing. I stopped using Instagram about a year ago because I got so sick of seeing the exact same type of cheesy “aesthetic” shit over and over again. And then there were the people who would try and game the algorithm any way they could to gain followers. Like commenting a random string of emojis (🔥🔥🔥) on any semi popular video to try and generate interaction or follow your account and then unfollow you within less than a day just to try and bait you into following them back. It got so fucking predictable and annoying and I couldn’t stand it anymore. Haven’t looked back since.
I have actually stopped using Instagram and Facebook due to anti-privacy and content ownership issues. I wonder how Instagram's ownership policies play out for any of this stuff. One other thing, don't these guys have to play live, where they could not have backing tracks, etc. at some point? Seems to me that they will be found out and looking for a rope in the near future, the ultimate publicity.
Thank you for your words. Gladly, I'm not busy on Instagram, so I didn't realize those fake players. It really is embarrasing for guys like you, that put so much effort in their playing.
Unfortunately social media (and modern DAW tech) has created a load of bedroom guitarists that are falling in to the same narcissistic traps as other areas of social media. I know I'm getting old and creaky, but I think we need to get more guitarists playing in live bands again so they can feel that amazing sense of gratification you can only ever get from real audience feedback. It beats Likes any day of the week! Even if more players are just getting together with other musicians and creating music in a room and experiencing that creative ebb-and-flow and have an end result to be proud of, it's got to be more rewarding than this fake virtuoso garbage, surely? In the meantime, keep calling em out, and making people aware.
I applaud your video. I've been practicing guitar for over 40 years and I'm still terrible. But trying your best to save the future of the guitar is very noble and I'm glad you're bringing this to the attention of real guitar players. Traveling with your band when you are a one man band, you'll never see a drummer hitchhiking down the highway with a set of drums. The guitar was made for walking with it strapped to your back. One other easy instrument to travel with is the Harmonica. Keep up the fight my friend.
It's crazy to think guys like Kevin Heiderich get no recognition, yet what he's doing without editing or faking sounds more impressive than what half of these spastics are doing while faking it.
This is why i love shrapnel recording artist johnny highland. The man has the most talent i have ever seen and plays better than anyone and its all in real time.
Thank you for pointing out this subject in your video. Almost ludicrous, especially when they try to make money off unsuspecting folks. Please keep making great videos.
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I didn’t even know this was a thing..... the cat is certainly amongst the pigeons now. Great video man!
Agreed! Good to know. Had no idea this was out there.
Thank you for the shout out too! That’s very kind!!!!
Same boat as you Bea, I found out a day ago from Leon Todd, its rubbish. You rock though, you're my favorite player on YT hands down and your noodles make my arm hairs stand up.
It works on vocals as well. We can all be "rap gods". It's one click away!
Manuel Fernandez is a good example on Instagram for this
I know where all these comments came from lol, i was waiting for someone to make a video about this
Bro, ❤
Rudy Ayoub I literally called him out on this shit weeks ago and I got two comments defending him. 🤦♂️
Y E S
@@robertcuff5704 called whom out? I'm trying to figure out
Hi bro how are u bro
Finally someone has the guts to tell the truth.. THANKS
Check out Tom fountainhead Geldschläger. He did this video a bit ago and now finally others can open up
If they wanna prove themselves being real doing this type of stuff just set up the shot so that we can see the daw with timecode rolling in the background recording the audio. This is something that is common in many pedal demos etc but something you NEVER see in these technical/speed focused videos.
I don't remember where or who, but i sae a video who litteraly recorded the video with a clock besides him.
@@darioperez181 And that's the way to go if you wanna go into that speed trial game or whatever you wanna call it (to me it's kind of attention seeking silliness, it feels like sports and music isn't sports, but each his own). A clock is a bare minimum for these kind of videos (could be added in post). A screen with the actual waveform being recorded along with readable running timecode is the gold standard. Or you know, keep your head in the frame and let your freak flag fly. If someone would go ahead and fake headbanging long hair I would be seriously impressed. :D
I just can't fake playing guitar, I just play it real ... real bad
lol that made me laugh, good job!
These online learn to play the guitar in one hour and the rest is just another con-game to get your money, The newest one out I think is FENDER and its very expensive and its an online with software you have to buy, than you have the EZ chord which is laughable and than chord buddy some offer guitars at reduced prices and one man bought one and when he hooked it up the damn thing burst into flames, One online company went as far as to say that if you buy their online course they will make you the next JIMMY PAGE,OR JEFF BECK in a week,
You had us in the first part not gonna lie lmaoo
At least you’re honest.
Better bad than deceiving
Well, the fact that your right hand is moving at Benny Hill speed is a real giveaway.
@@Lamster66 Badump-tshhhhh!
LOL
Dear god! Most of these players wouldn't even know the show!
I think I'm too sloppy to fake this good lol.
I will say I know for myself what I do is record lots of takes(for a song) from different angles and use the audio from the best one but use video clips from all the angles. I guess that's technically fake in a way, but the speeding up that is just insane.
Robert Baker I don’t think doing what you do is fake at all man! Not just because I know you - and you’re a wonderful human being haha! You’re totally transparent and authentic and you are 100% playing what people hear. It’s the mad editing, the Guitar Pro files, the speeding up etc. which is just mental.
I agree with Jack. Not fake what your doing rob as I follow you and watch your videos.
I see it as your creating a decent content video and showing all angles like a movie. You haven’t edited your playing to speed it up.
Your legit Robert. I watch some of your videos and follow on Instagram cause i like your personality bro. And your playing is great!
Robert Baker to be honest, it’s kind of the opposite. Obviously if someone is changing camera angles that’s a great chance to pick out the best part of a take. But the sound of the playing is truly you. That’s genuine. It doesn’t set a false hope or standard so you can profit off of people trying to improve their skills.
Yeah that's called editing, not fakery. Aren't all TV and movies made that way? The point is that Robert is legitimately editing to help guitarists learn and improve. Fakery is to convince people that some lie is the truth. Very different.
Your voice makes me want to play Skyrim
One of my favourite games ever 😍
@@JackGardiner Me too
Wind guide you
@@jegr3398 I used to be a commenter like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee
1200 hours across the Xbox 360, PC, Xbox One and then PC again with mods ✋🏽
The most interesting thing in this video is finding out that he's 26.
Lol
I still hope he just made a joke about that.
I'd guess 47 not a day younger, compelling voice and good talent.
He can’t be younger than 47.
Seriously??
I was wondering why there were so many John Petruccis and Paul Gilberts in the world all of the sudden.
Talking about Lucas Mann huh? Let me make it clear to you. Lucas just made an entire video of him playing the godless time's sweep, and Manuel just played at Tosin Abassi's booth at namm
More like Nuno bettencourts
LMAO thats so funny but so TRUE Im sure they wonder that too
yes, there have been other guitarists with technical ability to play over the past 30-40 years
This guy's not 26. He's an immortal. He played the lyre for Agamemnon before sailing for Troy. I have proof.
Proof
Guys in doom metal proudly smile knowing it's not them, :)
A L M idk man. How do we know they aren’t playing at 190 BPM and just slowing it down to -15 bpm?!
@@CoreyAllgood LOL You might be on to something, :)
They probably aren't smiling, its doom metal
If they ever finish their set. LOL :)
@@alm000 1 note in 15 seconds >>>>>>> 15 notes in 1 second
Man.. I'm a 26 year old guitarist and I can't express what I'm feeling right now watching your video. Every time I came across a fake guitar playing video, I used to think "Damn, can people really not tell what's going on?".. To the point where I would doubt my own hearing. Countless times had I been tempted to go the comment section of those videos and type "This is fake" and risk being called bashful or jealous or whatever. But I now literally understand what it means to have "Faith Restored", because now I know that there are people who notice this stuff, and you, Jack, have taken the first step towards creating awareness around the subject. Thanks for this, and props to all the guitarists you mentioned along Rick Graham, Stephen Taranto etc..
Alain Ibrahim, you can easily tell weather a guitar player is faking or not by their right hand motion. If their right hand is moving way to much, you can say that it's a fake. I mean, yeah guys like Rusty do have a lot of right hand movement, but the fakers have something totally different.
The only human being that should matter should be urself and this goes for every individual. Sure this sounds selfish but its so true, who cares about these fakes, eventually they'll get whats commin to 'em.
ANKIT AMAR KASHYAP trueee, it’s not as obvious with people that don’t fake it as dramatically though, for example a smaller stretch in tempo
@@DoktrDub it's actually called perfect technique. People forget the fact that, when they can't play that fast, it's because their technique is not on that point. So if you play fast with imperfect technique, you will sound sloppy, or if sped up, you will look really funny.
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bashful
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Too much effort man. I’d rather practice
Yeah buddy, you're right.
Social media is about making people think you're better than you really are, duh.
“To Catch a Shredder-er”
Start the Channel!
Have a strap right here
This video is a breeze of fresh air ! This nonsense guitar faking is killing some players motivation or self confidence, just like photoshopped pictures did for people hating on their own body. Thanks for sharing, and happy to have seen Kadinja’s guitar players in the list ! Cheers from France ! 🇫🇷
As more time passes I’m just more and more disgusted by social media 🤢
It makes people mentally ill - or at least show symptoms of mental illness, which doesn't make a difference in practice.
Jobin McGooch Yeah, It really is a cancer in so many ways. I know it comes back to the people using it but humans gonna human. That's the real problem
@@zendakk I think the main problem is that it encourages people to act stupid and nasty. There is little consequence most of the time. Most people wouldn't talk the way they do online if they were face to face. Social media makes it easy to be an asshole to anyone and everyone.
Yep, I totally agree.
It's a wonderful control system, though!
(* tho)
AGREE Technology has made deception a reality wherever you look
I remember reading that before Yngwie could shred, he would record himself to tape and speed it up, just to hear himself playing at the speed he was practicing towards. Obviously, he then proceeded to put the hours in and he increased his speed naturally until he got there. In 2019, we can all skip that last part! 😂
Ross Campbell That last sentence... ❤️😂 I’m worried that we’ll lose the future ‘Yngwie’s’/crazy technique guys with this crap. A guy I forgot to mention in the video is Sims Cashion - 19 years old and shredding like Rick Graham legitimately. There is hope... 😬
@@JackGardiner Sims is a beast. Definitely one of the greatest modern guitarists.
The story was a bit different. Yngwie practiced both in his house and in the shed in his garden. He would record in the shed and bring the tape into the house, practice and record again. As he told it, one of his recorders ran a little faster than the other, causing him to increase his speed just a little more than he was aware. Over time this led to him getting really fast. Or so he said.
@@JackGardiner you ever see videos of shawn lane in his teens? Come to think of it, shawn lane vs rick graham? what a duel that would be!
Dan Herrick Shawn Lane was on another level, not to say that Graham isn’t a beast himself
I can't shred so Im safe
Yo what's up Ray! Been following on insta for prob about 2 years now haha.
@@Toiletman24 haha hey hey whats up?!
@Remote Broadcast im also a terrible video editor haha
Yeah me too, I play old man music, organic hehe
Had seen your video is it possible to play drop A on a Les Play. Great shredd!
What I love most about this video is the balanced perspective. Sure, there's usually some degree of fakery in the studio for the sake of art and expression; lack of transparency, however, is a problem. For instance, Metallica makes no secret of the fact that many of their classic tracks were recorded measure by measure. At the same time, they're not afraid to go out and fuck up a little during a show, or sometimes, even in the studio. Personally, I'll have no issue using some editing tricks to enhance my recordings, but I don't claim to be a virtuoso when I'm not.
Where did you hear that about metallica? Can you provide sources please?
I always wondered how did these guys edited stuff. Now I know, it is crazy...
I guess if they spent the same time practicing that they did editing, they would actually play it.
I does happen to me, specially when I see an improvised solo. It makes me feel like I'll never get that level of music knowledge, quick thinking and perfect execution.
Thanks for pointing it out!
Then there’s rick graham. As clean as those fake gimps but he actually sounds human when he plays.
federz666 literally though the same thing just before reading your comment
Was thinking the same thing!
And Tim Pierce and Pete Thorn and Shawn Tubbs and....
+ Stephen Taranto, Jason Richardson etc....
Never forget Shawn Lane!
It sounds like everyone on Instagram playing a strandberg
Exactly
Do you know any insta usernames I can check out to see this debauchery
Imagine spending thousands of dollars on a boutique guitar and not even be able to play it
@@randybobandy678 that's as Instagram as it gets!
I think you should absolutely name and shame these people. They deserve to be called out.
Totally agree!
Well maybe but on the other hand it isn't good to give them a bigger stage
do you guys know any names/ig? this shit is insane
@@MrJirntson This is the problem with this drama, people are just gonna start calling out everyone they see as being "fake" now just because they're good lol
I love the amount of attention this "trend" has been getting lately. I haven't finished your video yet, so pardon me if you touch on this later, but another detail they add is being able to play it BADLY at full speed, or mime something close at full speed, to make the video not look jumpy, so the audio is fake but the video feels genuine.
Even professionals release playthrough videos that aren't a real one take recording, just to save time on production. Really interesting debate we're having as the philosophy of guitar and music develops over the years. Great stuff man, love the video.
EDIT: Great video all the way to the end. Checked out your channel, you're a crazy talented guy. Mad respect to you sir, you have more than earned my subscription!! And you didn't fake it ;)
Not sure how any real guitar player could think this looks or sounds real.
I was thinking the same thing. Clearly, fake AF..
Weird thing is, it's not even insanely good. Its good, but there's tons of guys 10x better who post legit videos and have barely any followers
@@aliasbam2750 The more you understand about theory in practice, the less improvising looks like dark magic.
The more you 'get' fingerstyle, the less crazy arrangements that combine melody, harmony, vocals etc into only the guitar look like under water chess basket weaving backgammon.
He made it alot more obvious doing the video at 95, the recording at 120 and speeding up to 190.
His strumming hand just kind of phases in and out of existence lol.
A lot of non-guitarists are perpetuating the problem with "Wow, this is incredible!". As soon as a faker says "I'm not faking, I swear!", the fans all go "See, I TOLD you it was real, he just said so!". Everyone has an opinion, but not everybody actually knows what they're talking about.
I was going to comment "And then there's Stephen Taranto." Great to see him mentioned more and more these days 😄👌
Mikko Havukainen I was gonna comment the same 😂👍
Stephen is an absolute monster! ❤️
rick graham and stephen taranto's picking hand are probably some of best in the guitar world..
@@minimoogle3335 Wes Hauch!
He's probably the best on the planet right now.
We should start naming them all so people would be aware of them. And stop supporting them!
I see both sides to it. They need to be exposed, but these leeches feed off of any publicity. Whether its good or bad, it's all exposer to them. Not naming them means less traffic to their pages and potentially people liking their pages which is what they want.
I just wanna know a few so that I could watch them and Lmao .
I literally have no idea who’s faking it too???? Everyone I follow seems to be legit: Kevin Heinrich, Yo_onityan, 560000560000, Ichika, Miles Dimitri Baker, stephentaranto... I could go on
@@gej300v they're mostly on Instagram I guess
@@faustoorieta There are tons here on TH-cam as well. There are a lot of the "fingerstyle slap and pop acoustic" players that absolutely fake the stuff. You can clearly see in their videos that they are not even moving either hand in a way to make specific notes or noises.
I’m glad so many people are finally shedding light on this issue! It’s amazing how many people don’t realize they’re being cheated.
Been wondering for a while how the feck these young kids pull off some stuff especially on instagram!
steve wilson I’m curious to see some examples
Allstin Manuel Fernandez Dan James griffin. Lucas Mann. Just people I’ve always watched
His voice is so deep when he talks I vibrate
"It needs to stop" then explains in painstaking detail how to do it yourself, lol
This video needs to be shared far and wide, as fake playing is quite a pandemic. Good job, Jack.
I'm always surprised at how many people can't tell it's fake. Guitar playing is becoming like electronic music. We might as well just start using guitar vst instruments and programming in midi as it sounds the same!
I thought I was an experienced guitarist, yet I couldn't tell the first part of this video was fake guitar playing!
SamOwenI always look for the hands, sped up footage is very jerky
I have such a hard time telling if those videos are fake, even with the spotting tips I get from videos like this. It's pretty crazy how easy it is to fool people in video, which just goes to show that just because there's video "evidence" that doesn't mean it's real.
@@SamOwenI I think the experience you need more than guitar playing in order to easily spot these are video editing experience. Sped up footage has a lot of easy tells.
"Hey, I want to get some Guthrie Govan."
"We have Guthrie Govan at home."
Home: Jack Gardiner
AHAHAHAHA why does this have no likes
Loll
Faithleap here goes one :)
I need to take my guitar out of the trash now, giving up thinking all these people are so much better than me after so many years never getting faster. Seriously, thanks for the info...
The feeling of playing something that you love and are proud of far outstrips the so-called gratification attained from doing this. The best music is that which is genuine and comes from a perspective of giving positive emotions rather than recieving them.
Man I never comment on anything on TH-cam but can I just say thanks so much for bringing stuff like this to attention! It's gotten so out of hand with some instagram players and I remember first seeing dudes like that play and being absolutely amazed that I'd never heard of them before... then eventually digging through more of their content and seeing that live they sounded nothing like how they did on their insta vids bahaha
I'm glad that opening bit was fake, because it sounded like shit to me!
I quite liked it. The sped up effect gave it an interesting sound that I feel could work good in an electronic context or similar. Like how some tracks use vocals pitch shifted to a point that would be difficult for anyone to perform live
Sounds great if actually pulled off
Mike Van Ry back to Smoke on the Water and Iron Man for you lassie.....
Looks like he’s in the Night’s Watch.
Sounds like it too lol
This is like 'Stolen Valor' but in the music world.
Its true
But dont worry for them
Its not going to change
Real Musicians know its fake playing
"There's one guy that can do that, one of them is Guthrie Govan" I mean... what can't he do
Holy smokes I've seen some beastly guitarists live and they've had some parts they didnt quite nail but not Guthrie
It's funny he mentioned Guthrie, because IMO he looks like he's related to him, plus he sounds like him (and maybe a similar accent).
@@barakahfactor yeah he sounds like guthrie man hhahah
Dejen de escribir en inglés pendejos, tienen nombres en español.
Postdata: el tipo tiene un acento inglés (de Inglaterra) y Guthrie me parece que también es inglés, así que supongo que allí la semejanza.
@@pierol1840 :v
As a (really small-scale) TH-cam guitarist, this was one of the reasons I stopped being too intimidated to share my own playing online. Thanks for making this video! It's easy to think you're the only person recognizing all the BS when no one dares to speak up, so it's nice to see in the comments that loads of others can also smell something fishy.
Sadly faking does get people ahead when it comes to getting new opportunities, so I can see why people get tempted. Personally I think it's a form of lying and on top of that doing all that editing is way more work than actually practicing. My guess is some players' logic is, if cheating leads to more subscribers more quickly, that leads to endorsements and other opportunities more quickly. I am sure some players also assume that eventually they will reach the standard of playing they've always been presenting in their videos. So it's basically "fake it till you make it"... But if you don’t actually have the ability to play to that standard live when the time comes, it’s going to lose you a lot of respect. I have seen this happen with some players recently (not going to name names though).
I don't think it's fair but it seems to be the way of the world. I suspect that the organizations handing these fakers opportunities also often know what’s really going on, but again they are looking at sales numbers rather than authenticity. It might just be fellow musicians (and not even all of them) and music aficionados not necessarily in the music business who really care about authenticity.
This was one of the main reasons I had been dreaming of starting my own YT channel. It took me over a year to build up the courage to post my first guitar video, because as I started looking into making a channel I was way too intimidated by videos like that to post anything of myself playing online. But as I watched more of these videos I noticed the fakeness - Not just in speeding up videos, but also players using new camera angles/takes for every part of a song because they didn't practice enough to be able to play the whole thing through in one go, or players saying they've learned something by ear but somehow they're fingering it exactly like the wrong tab I just checked on UG... Yeah, it's sickening! Not only did it piss me off, but by being aware I could adjust my own attitude.
And there may well be a lot of people out there cheating less noticeably; I don't think I'd be able to tell something was sped up 100% of the time, or whether mistakes were pitch-corrected or overdubbed, etc. Even on some of my favorite records I can hear where several takes on a solo got cut and pasted together, and I suspect on some records some tracks may have been sped up slightly from their original recording speed (best case scenario: once the artist has actually learned the full song, they play it even faster live and it sounds better than on the album). Just being aware of some of these things really helped me get over that fear of starting my own channel and actually playing electric guitar with an amp.
But if you flip that argument on its head, the fact that people are cheating means that despite their success, they can't genuinely reach the standard they set for themselves, and in a way that's really sad. Being aware of that can be encouraging when you're building up the confidence to showcase your own playing to others. I can play full songs live and record them without needing to edit them. And although I'm not "the best/fastest/cleanest of all time" I am happy with the level I am at and the fact that I am still improving, learning more, and especially that I can also make some other people happy by playing guitar for them. I can be happy and make others happy without the need to be the fastest or most technical player to have ever walked this planet.
I hope anyone here reading this and looking at this video will get the same encouragement to be openly creative whilst being themselves. And since cheating only makes the industry more superficial and formulaic, I genuinely hope that any cheaters reading this start thinking seriously about how they are shaping the industry. It would be good for people who are faking videos to confess and come up with more authentic ways to contribute to the online music community.
(Sorry for the long post, thanks for reading!)
Credits to Tom Geldschläger for opening the flood gates with this
not enough people is giving credit to him for speaking on this
Is that Fountain head? I saw his miming video the other day. Spread the good word!! Fakers will not thrive in the guitar community.
@@VomitRottenn Yep
@@inquisidor1 Right, Now jared dines did a vid on this and credited this video. I understand that Jared doesn't know much but I assume Jack made this vid because of Tom.
this wouldnt even BE an issue if guitarists didnt blow a load when they see someone play fast. Speed isnt everything.
More players should understand the value of a SINGLE note first before they try any speed technique.
This. I remember when I was half the age I am now, I played something that was fast and intense and honestly wasn't that good melodically in any way. My father looked at me (noteworthy he's not even a musician.) and told me "What good is it if you play fast but the music sounds like crap? focus on sounding good, then if you want, play fast" I still don't play fast, I play at 160BPM of less. Make the note movement sound good, use the scale degrees to achieve the desired feeling and intensity, and play it for the sake of making something sound wonderful, not for the sake of impressing anyone.
Charles Mayberry David Gilmour is according to you.
A lot of song covers are ruined by speeding them up
Found the Doom fan
This is an issue with literally every instrument. Flight of the bumblebee on piano, violin, fucking harmonica. It's the easiest crowd pleaser. It ruined the musicality of the song that I'm now appalled by the infamous intro everytime I hear it. It really isnt the musical people that fall for it. Its the clueless knobheads thst know nothing about music and thinking they know shit after they watch a youtube video.
Something tells me that you and Guthrie Govan would make good friends, you both are very cool and informative and calm, great video man! Subscribed.
Paul Wardingham is also a legit shred guy with insanely clean (yet human) technique.
This a direct shot at manuel gardner fernandes lmao
even the solo he did was a copy of manuel's style.. hahahaha it was a pretty good mockery tbh..
max reichert good. his fakery needs to be exposed.
The Charles dude from berried alive is the worst though. Even though Manuel speeds up some of his videos, he's still very talented. Charles is a complete fake and a prick.
Chris Valenzuela if he speeds up his videos he’s a poser then.
@@chrisvalenzuela7911 I guess Rings of Saturn fakes, too?
Intro sounds exactly like Manuel Gardner Fernandes lmao
That’s what I thought. He isn’t fake tho sorry ego lol
He is not fake literaly saw him live yesterday and I was like "LETS SEE NOW" and he showed me
@@anthonymaalouf8610 Geeez guys he is obv a good guitar player but he is so faking it in some of these clips I wonder that we even have to talk about it lol! Search for his guitar vid collection on youtube and take the second clip... slow it down to 0.50 or 0.75 speed and watch how much more natural his movements and the sound feel and then go back to normal speed and see how ridiculous this is hahahaha
MartinBergnerGuitar yeah unfortunately manuel seems to be using speed up
Manuel Fernandes is a great guitar player, and you can tell he's not faking it within two minutes of watching any of his bands live performances. Don't spread misinformation. Yes, there are garbage players out there but he can play all of his shit. Edited? Sure. Fake? No.
This is like the guitarist version of the instagram models using Facetune
"It's so disgustingly fake, and I know how to do it."
Finally a Dragon Force Tutorial
Yah except I've seen dragonforce live and Herman li shreds in real life.. Not the biggest dragon force fan but I enjoyed the show and can confirm they can actually play it live
thoes riffs and licks are so bad that dont even matter if they are fake lol
True!! I'm an experienced guitarist and tbh it never occurred to me they might be sped up or fake but jeeeez.. it did occure to me how shit they sounded ahahahahah
@@michaelciancetta6397 wtf are you talking about? are you guys talking about the first video?
it is nowhere near to shitty or something alike
Michael Ciancetta Wut? Looks so obviously sped up. Does sound like shit too.
Liece45 ya that first riff is so ass lol
@@Liece45 you're part of the problem
I'm glad I'm still recording the same thing over and over again until I get it right lol
I do this too. People always ask why I only upload once a month. lol
Thoroughly grateful to you for opening my eyes about the fakeness that's going on these days.
No matter how advanced technology gets, these fake people still can’t play with soul and make beautiful sound and that sound like human. And that’s why true artists will always need to exist. And this is why you should keep perfecting your playing and keep making music honestly. Thank you so much for this video and you are a true artist!
Thank you Jack. People like you will be the reason guitar doesn't die.
The sped up footage gets busted pretty quickly. The smarter ones record at a slower speed, then mime it. But they are still dumb when it comes to vibrato. Or are they simply taking the audience's perception for granted? Anyway, I'm loving all the exposition. It is time we go back to appreciating flawed, human playing. It is what got most of us into music, after all. Back to basics.
These Fakers should be called "Trendy Shredders" or something, as they are only in it for the Social Media Interactions and not demonstrating their ability on the instrument.
They don't seem to be in bands...
@@ferox965 Except Manuel Gardner Fernandez
I've never considered shred guitar as actually playing just scales played fast and repeated at nauseous levels mindless notes that have no reason other than to take up space.
It's like a practice session that never ends.
Once the required finger tap starts I'm done every high school garage band has at least one guy who does this impressive if you're an 8 year old kid starting out learning to play
Nah, not for me, I love the imperfection of a live show, a missed note, a over pressed string...I Love that, that`s as organic at it gets, also, not a huge fan of those excessive uses of tappings, wanna play guitar or a fucking piano? :/
Tapping is usually used to add melody and using chords to add to the background. I personally use tapping because I can't move my left hand fast enough to add the melody.
reminder that there are other worlds of metal where precision and electronics are considered an aesthetic, so some users mentioned who may quantize their notes, its due to the scene they are playing for. i too love realistic and guitar music with a full blown natural feel, but i also get off on robotic, precise music that sounds insane.
It’s hilarious how such a silly situation serves to reveal the dishonest, the foolish, and the sensible. Social media empowers the obnoxious
I never 100% trusted the Instagram scene. I've been feeling frustrated for a long because of the huge difference between me and any guitarist of the same level but with editing skills and great gear. Since I'm more interested in musical knowledge itself I recognize I take maybe less time than I should taking care of these, but on the other hand most of the people overlap the presentation over the essence of the playing. This is something that has always annoyed me a little. But now I know they actually fake the speed (and it's not just they edit the sound quality) I feel fooled and very angry. I feel that all this frustration and bad feelings about my playing haven't been worth at all, neither necessary. I fear that this is what's going to happen or it's already happening with emerging guitarists like me who aspire somewhere, potentially outstanding people could even give up guitar because of this phenomenon. This is so sad.
I swear to god if I ever need a vampire villain for any reason, I’m calling you.
My favorite uncle on youtube, ben eller did tons of free lessons on TH-cam despite having the theories and techniques at the back of his hand. No nonsense, no bulls, just straight up skills and knowledge
Mark Riffalo ...not only does he have the chops - he’s often funny as f^*k too. Stepdaddy speed indeed! 😊
There is actually another giveaway, not flying fingers. No matter how your technique is perfect and practiced, when you speed up you tend to move fingers away from fingerboard more than at slow tempos. This is something I've been trying to minimize for years in my playing, so I have tons of recordings and boy, do they go away. Also, sometimes we tend to use easier fingerings.
This is a dead giveaway imo. If you watch players like Rick Graham and Jason Richardson who have insane speed and clarity, their hands look like they're barely moving because they have such efficient control. Fakers will be flinging fingers all over the place.
@@cbsaulren I'll be flinging fingers all over your place if you're not careful 👀
I must share this, those guys are the reason why alot of new gen guitarists patrionizing the wrong path.
The saying goes: "If you learn how to play it slow, you will be able to play it fast." However it seems some players still haven't figured out that they actually need to play it fast, too.
"If you can play it slowly, you can play it quickly"
You must not have ever watched 2step violin.
Hahaha
@@amosanon8788 lingling 40 hours: triggered
Great video bro!!
Rob Chapman Many thanks brother ❤️ 🙏
Rob Chapman you should pin this to the top. It adds credibility and star power.
I checked out that planet name video. The guys right hand was not what it was supposed to be almost every single time he came back to start a sweep. I have good friends that can actually play like that and they've been playing for about 35 to 40 years. Johnny and Freddy Demarco, Frank Romano , and many many others. I'm a 50 year old bass player and I started playing when I was 12 years old. Saxophone since 4th grade. Piano since I was 5. Ever since pitch and beat quantization came out I figured it was only a matter of time before some hacks figured out how to utilize it for live shows to Fane musicianship. It's a real slap in the face to people that have put in the work for most of their lives.
If they record higher frame rates it might smooth out the motion of the playback and look more convincing.
I’ve always wondered why no one has addressed this until now! Incredible content, dude!
YES! Thank you Jack. Fed up of seeing this sort of bollocks popping up in my Instagram feed!
The only popular one I've heard that legitimately doesnt seem like faking is ichika nito
I think even Ichika does this, some of his movements seem inhumanly fast
Nah, he’s actually an OG
@@jaedii7287 there are videos of him playing live in the same way
@johnny lasagna he put up a video with him bringing a song up to tempo recently, doesn't seem fake.
He just put out a video showing how he does his songwriting process. It's all unplugged, and the talent is still there. Super impressive player.
Every time I play, I get handling noise, the bending occasionally doesn't quite end up where it's supposed to and I'll even skip some notes on the longer runs just to get through it on time.
I wouldn't change a thing.
Agreed - absolutely. I'm a bassist/guitarist with some skill with synthesizers and keyboards, and this issue is something that concerns me mainly because I am also a composer utilizing computer aided audio to cover any instrumentation for arrangements I create that I don't play. But this is not to say that I don't know how to compose for many different instruments. It isn't really creative, in my opinion, to just call up a beat from a preset and then use a tempo map to arrange it in a clever way, then groove up to make yet another hackneyed pop tune with a duration of 2" - 3: 30" that is so perfectly quantized and pitch corrected that it sounds as though I'm listening to a machine. It takes great care - time - effort ... to make any kind of computer aided imagery convincing, and even then it's never completely transparent. This is the reason I've decided to go back to recording guitars and basses again, which is something I haven't done since 2010. I've avoided these instruments in my compositions for lack of decent sample representations, at least until I recently licensed a very decent library. But even so, there is no substitute for a real performance, with all it's charms that are born of the very flaws that the Photoshop generation mistakenly, or malignantly tries to eliminate. For it is the grace of the listener or the viewer that makes the artistic experience real. But when the audience is intolerant, then the arts are overthrown by totalitarianism. This is still a very cold war indeed. Be vigilant. Only the truth keeps us free.
When these guys hands look like Regan climbing down the stairs backwards you know something is wrong.
nice reference
The amount of time it takes to achieve this, you could probably just practice more :) great video boss
They thought "practice" meant to practice editing on a computer. Lol
@@the_original_Bilb_Ono i mean can see how that'd cause confusion
No shit. By the time they figured out all this recording stuff they could have gotten better doing it the honest way and actually learning to improve themselves. I guess this is why they are on TH-cam because they are actually to shitty of a player to play with people or live.
Killer list of real dudes. Guthrie, Rick Graham, Stephen Taranto. All amazing players.
I'm glad theres honest people out there like you. if I made this video I wouldn't be so calm
"it needs to stop" but also here's exactly how to do it
Well, it's better than not explaining how it's done.
As usual, clearly the unethical are already doing it. They already know the secrets. It’s the gullible audience that needs educating.
If everyone knows how to do it it won’t be very impressive anymore..
i wish my voice is like yours, lets sacrifice this fake guitar players to the eye of sauron in mordor. let them burn in the fiery pit. warlock master jack
#NoFap lowers your voice eventually, quite a bit. Mine sounds like of Chris Evans (Captain America) nowadays:
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@@Phoenix_cataclysm_in_2040 i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/018/489/nick-young-confused-face-300x256-nqlyaa.jpg
Melt their face with real speed picking
he's adding bass FX in post. He's conning you. :P
26?
Damn, dude, Kindergarten must have been rough.
It all makes sense now why we have seen so so many fake shredders on social media!
I like the added punch with how the description immediately suggests “guitar lessons” lol
Also great video, this is shameful behaviour! How dare they disgrace a guitar like that :) maybe if they spent some more time playing guitar rather than practicing fake guitar audio/video editing then they might be better players, who knows but that’s just my opinion...
Playing the guitar Is about being human, don’t fake the god damn guitar and try to pass it off as legit
I’m glad you brought up the root of this problem which is the whole influencer culture thing. I stopped using Instagram about a year ago because I got so sick of seeing the exact same type of cheesy “aesthetic” shit over and over again. And then there were the people who would try and game the algorithm any way they could to gain followers. Like commenting a random string of emojis (🔥🔥🔥) on any semi popular video to try and generate interaction or follow your account and then unfollow you within less than a day just to try and bait you into following them back.
It got so fucking predictable and annoying and I couldn’t stand it anymore. Haven’t looked back since.
I have actually stopped using Instagram and Facebook due to anti-privacy and content ownership issues. I wonder how Instagram's ownership policies play out for any of this stuff. One other thing, don't these guys have to play live, where
they could not have backing tracks, etc. at some point? Seems to me that they will be found out and looking for a rope in the near future, the ultimate publicity.
You guys are just jealous of their gaming chair.
Look like he could play George Harrison in a biopic.
He's not boring enough to play George.
@@Frip36 That's a mean thing to say about a great musician
lip synching is bad - finger synching is worse : )
Why is your voice so soothing…
Thank you for your words. Gladly, I'm not busy on Instagram, so I didn't realize those fake players. It really is embarrasing for guys like you, that put so much effort in their playing.
And then there is Marshall Harrison playing live each saturday....
Giovanni Rui if there is anyone who is truly legendary, it’s him.
Guy is a monster of REAL technique!
So what you telling me is it is not "Unprocessed"?
Dear Jack
I love you
Leon Todd Where’s the wedding at? ❤️
@@JackGardiner there's a beach not far from my place?
Unfortunately social media (and modern DAW tech) has created a load of bedroom guitarists that are falling in to the same narcissistic traps as other areas of social media. I know I'm getting old and creaky, but I think we need to get more guitarists playing in live bands again so they can feel that amazing sense of gratification you can only ever get from real audience feedback. It beats Likes any day of the week! Even if more players are just getting together with other musicians and creating music in a room and experiencing that creative ebb-and-flow and have an end result to be proud of, it's got to be more rewarding than this fake virtuoso garbage, surely? In the meantime, keep calling em out, and making people aware.
I applaud your video. I've been practicing guitar for over 40 years and I'm still terrible. But trying your best to save the future of the guitar is very noble and I'm glad you're bringing this to the attention of real guitar players. Traveling with your band when you are a one man band, you'll never see a drummer hitchhiking down the highway with a set of drums. The guitar was made for walking with it strapped to your back. One other easy instrument to travel with is the Harmonica. Keep up the fight my friend.
@Commander Zavala It's really hard to learn new things when you already know everything---Look up the Dunning-Kruger Effect. Best of luck.
Next up, Gandalf the early years
It's crazy to think guys like Kevin Heiderich get no recognition, yet what he's doing without editing or faking sounds more impressive than what half of these spastics are doing while faking it.
Kevin shows his talent in the most good way. Respect.
26? Or 26th anniversary of your 20th birthday?
This is why i love shrapnel recording artist johnny highland. The man has the most talent i have ever seen and plays better than anyone and its all in real time.
Thank you for pointing out this subject in your video. Almost ludicrous, especially when they try to make money off unsuspecting folks. Please keep making great videos.