You guys forgot the ULTIMATE problem child: GInger Baker! Its seems like it did not take much for ANYONE to get on his bad side. In fact he may have been 90% "Bad Side" The Documentary "Beware of Mr Baker" appropriately depicts him as a roaming vandal leaving a path of professional and personal destruction throughout his career. Its amazing at times he just abandons situations without a word leaving groups in the lurch with no idea where he moved!
Ace Frehley and Peter Criss for my first favorite band KISS. Great show, fun and interesting topic, highly recommend Glenn's book - unbelievable that he has made it this far - he is a survivor
As Pete said on 10 Jan 2020: He was a 'Mad Man' (referring to Keith Moon of the The Who.) 1. Moon asked a stagehand to rig his drums with an extra charge of dynamite, such that they would explode carelessly at the end of their performance of “My Generation" on The Smothers Brothers. The resulting explosion was caused Pete Townshend temporarily losing his hearing in one ear at the time. 2. Keith passed out on stage after taking a handful of horse tranquilizers 3. He was often drunk, therefore at times playing drums out time.
I'll admit I'm a bit late the Pardo + Popoff series, but I have to say it pains me that the 'like' count on this particular episode is at 819. It honestly should be (at least) 819,000. I'll note I'm almost exactly Pete's age, and I KNOW there are legions of folks who would be absolutely fascinated and edified by these lists and conversations. Nicely done, and cheers to you both.
I love the insight from these 2 guys. Pete, this is a great show you have going. Every topic is so interesting....so insightful by all who are involved. I really liked that you picked Jim Morrison. He was definitely a problem child.
My story about Diamond head. I worked for 8yrs for a firm with Brian Tatler's dad. When he retired I went to his retirement party and Brian was there. I spent 10mins telling him they should reform. A few month later they were touring again and then they released Death and Progress.
11:28 "before we're all old and gray, and no one cares anymore"... LOL from two gray-haired guys talking about a dispute in 1987 (34 years ago!). I'm about your age, so I know it is painful, but: we are already there, man. Fun video, as always... the best series on this channel
Glenn Hughes has all my respect; he's been so down the gutter and rose from that to where he is now. Seen him live a couple of times, never disappoints. Great performer and seems a great guy. 🍺🤘
Liam Gallagher. Noel Gallagher. Blackie Lawless. Axl Rose. Dave Mustaine. Yngwie Malmsteen. Don Dokken. George Lynch. Geoff Tate. Ratt (The whole band)
Popoff and Pardo are at again with a discussion of various reasons that certain individuals can be viewed as a 'problem child.' Jim Morrison immediately came to mind when this show started so glad to see Pete pull and quick-change and include him. There may have been other poster-children for this episode during the late 60s but Pete's choice and discussion was spot on. Particularly down here in Florida where Morrison 'allegedly' exposed himself to the audience in Miami on 3/1/69. Being 13 at the time and also more than 300 miles away, my folks would never have let me go to that concert in any event but this likely caused their increased interest in the concerts my brother was going to at the time and the those I was just starting to be interested in seeing. Thanks to Martin and Pete for another interesting topic and the variations of reasons and people discussed. There ya go!
1. Ritchie Blackmore 2. Ronnie Van Zant 3. Motley Crue minus Mick Mars 4. Dave Mustaine early Metallica 5. C.C. DeMille 6. Roger Waters 7. Fleetwood Mac Lindsey Buckingham 8. Phil "Philthy Animal" Taylor 9. Ozzy Osbourne with Black Sabbath circa 1978-79 10. Mick Jones vs Lou Gramm
I would not have that Ronnie Van Zant would be considered a "problem child". ok, I'll talk your word for it, but I have always thought that he was the glue that kept the original band professional and heading in the right direction. The leader of the band. On the other hand Allen Collins always seemed more of a wild out of control member, in my opinion.
Cheers Martin & Pete. As much as I love Roger Waters as an artist and a songwriter (Roger was really the main songwriter after Piper At The Gates of Dawn), I agree with Martin, Amused to Death is far and away the best Floyd solo album, However, I think Roger is a living breathing contraction. Any who has been married as many times as he has and seemingly can’t get along individuals should never be giving advice on how entire nations and millions of people should behave. I agree with you Pete. Rock musicians should not be giving advice in the world of politics when most have such chaotic private lives.
Your comment reminds me of Ricky Gervais at the 2020 Golden Globes. He eviscerated those pretentious, self righteous Hollywood elites for their preaching practices while demonstrating such a lack of character in their own personal endeavors and business dealings. It could very well have been directed at Roger Waters as well.
Axl Rose is the ultimate problem. Over 10 years to do Chinese Democracy, been over 10 years since that has come out. And he has no urge it seems to release more music. Meanwhile Slash and Duff release album after album.
When I was 12 or 13 years old, my favorite uncle moved me and showed me Animals by Pink Floyd. That Album may not be their best ever but in my mind is top 3 ever in their discography. Just amazing top to bottom. The whole album is so incredible. All of the players doing just insane things and it all comes together with this Wall of Sound. I know that stoners and acid/ mushroom trippers love all of this but you do not need any of that to absolutely love this record by Pink Floyd/Animals... What a beast of a record. Wish you were here, Dark side of the Moon. Just bang bang albums of the 1970's. Gilmore's tone is just on another planet level
Pink Floyd, although career wise it benefited them it is such a sad story, Syd was seen as a problem due to eccentric and detrimental behaviour to himself and the band. They were forced to distance themselves from Syd and with more mental health awareness it is a story that could have ended differently.
It could have ended differently, but I don't think there is any way that Syd could have gone forward as the main songwriter of the band for the next 10 plus years. I'm a 25 year mental health professional and know a good bit about psychopharmacology. Unfortunately the medications that effectively control the psychotic symptoms that Syd was experiencing also dull the creative process and ability to experience enjoyment. This was particularly true with the first generation of antipsychotics which were available at the time.
Brian Wilson and SB had similar mental problems. Both went reclusive. BUT BW met doctor Landis who saved him. Really. BW and his family have dissed Landis a lot BUT the guy saved Brian`s life. Syd never found his Landis.
Many “problem child” bandmates suffer from LSD (Lead Singer Disease)… lol Sebastian Bach - Skid Row Axel Rose - Guns n’ Roses Dennis DeYoung - Styx Dee Snider - Twisted Sister David Lee Roth - Van Halen Don Dokken - Dokken Ozzy - Ozzy Osbourne
That's was just so good! Thanks Pete die this. Great way to start the weekend... And StarOne, Arjen Lucassen, just announced Adrian Vandenberg on his new album!
Viv Prince, drummer of the Pretty Things was very troubled soul ,but was charismatic , also a talent ,a similar musician was Keith Moon of the Who, again a drummer.
The John Sykes thing is really weird. Way back in about 1978 before Tygers even, I wouldn’t say he was a friend but our paths crossed socially and with his then band Streetfighter a few times. He was a really laid back and friendly bloke ,but ambitious person that just seemed to enjoy playing and writing. Obviously that was 43 years ago and we all change but I don’t recognise this version of Sykes that is so reluctant to get his music out there and be playing live.
John Sykes must be in his 60s , he's old enough to retire from music. He recorded 2 albums with Tygers of Pantang in 1981 , he joined Thin Lizzy the following year, recorded 2 albums with Whitesnake, 1 being their best selling album. Blue Murder albums wound up in the bargain bin sections of your favorite Record Store, but still they were real major label albums. I would consider John Sykes more of a success in his own way than Guns n Roses who are still only remembered for 2 successful studio albums. A lot of musicians would be happy just to have been part of the NWOBHM movement, so give the guy a break already
Martin's camera is more focused on the cabinet behind him, while he is almost out of the frame to the left. And, his volume is lower than Pete's volume. Just an observation, but still a great video and topic.
Another great episode as always! I just wish that Martin would move to his left a little bit or move his camera. The last bunch of episode sometimes his head is completely off screen.
My top 5 "problem child" list (in no particular order)... 1. Sebastian Bach's prima donna antics which caused him to get booted from Skid Row. 2. Vinnie Vincent's shady behavior with Kiss, causing him to sue the band multiple times and lose every time. 3. Vito Bratta's steadfast refusal to participate in a White Lion reunion for reasons unknown. 4. Ritchie Blackmore being an asshole by all accounts, and I'm sure Deep Purple is glad he's not in the band! 5. Vivian Campbell biting the hand that fed him and being a dick to his former employer Ronnie James Dio.
Glenn Hughes was a great pick. Really like after his turn around how great he was on the Tony Iommi solo albums 1996 DEP Sessions and Fused; really wish they'd do something again... Dead Daisies is good, but it doesn't scratch that doomy itch that Iommi/Hughes does.
Fused is a great record. Saw a great review in the NY Post back then that made me get it. Excellent stuff. Bought the DEP sessions after and they were my first intro to Glenn Hughes. Guy has some pipes!
The Ankh Warrior himself, Vinnie Vincent, is one of the most famous examples of this, isn't he? As much as I love him, both as a guitarist and as a vocalist as well.
I always love these shows with Martin, the insight and stories are great. One "Problem Chid" that comes to my mind is Steven Pearcy of Ratt, what an ego and the shenanigans he pulled. I know he was banned from the KNAC radio station studio because he trashed it a couple of times in the 80's.
Pete that may be potential for a topic your comments on Jim Morrison, the extemporaneous nature of the bands live show vs the studio album and why some did it and some just played the same notes show after show.
Kudos to band members who were incredible musicians and had some problems and are still here today living. A new wake up call or some call it "Red Pilled or Born Again"... Just because some folks figured out themselves later on does not make them not as "So Cool" back then. I admire people that have figured out some things and can have a new path in life. We lost so many great souls in the past. So many musicians obviously in their 20's. The whole 27 year old ditty. Hendrix, Morrison, Joplin, Cobain, etc... Looking back at all of this, we are now under full disclosure type of phase where the general public are wondering what in the frigg is going on today? Why does the President of the United States look so different than he did in the past? How did he become the POTUS in the first place. The guy only got about 15 people attending his rallies while the other side had packed Stadiums? Perhaps we are witnessing some major changes in the Timeline Shift here? I think so. Buckle up. Music is so important where this ship is heading. We are avoiding a non-sensical new Civil War but a new Revolutionary War without much violence on the surface. Much of this is being done behind "Closed Doors". We are living in an Information War. Spiritual War, Frequency War, Biblical War, etc. All is good. All we have to do is be more than 51% Service to others and not more than 51% Service to Self. Treat others how you want to be treated. I do not want to talk about this in this Comment section but we are stuck in this Paradox because 70% of the population just do not want to wake up to reality here. All we need is another 10% to acknowledge that this is Really going on and happening. All INFLATION and stupid Taxed will come to a screeching halt immediately. Housing, Banking, Loans, Debt, Stress will all Stop and we will have a new renaissance once the common folk realize that all of this is a FRAUD. Washington DC has been shut down for more than 2 years. All Fakery and so called leaders carrying on wearing "Rubber Masks" and pretending. Most of what is going on is with Computer Graphics and CGI. Turn off your TV sets and wake up to REALITY again. I love this channel. This channel is REAL I am tired of living in fake land and going to my grocery and downtown restaurants and being sucked into the FAKE REALITY that just does not EXIST anymore. This all stops when the 70% wake up to all of this nonsense. Great show Martin and Pete! You guys know your music and we will get there. I understand that these topics are hard for folks but millions are wondering why this is taking so long for good people to just wake up a bit more to reality.
Richie Blackmore played on a lot of sessions for singles in the 1960's (same as Jimmy Page) and so that background of playing with lots of different musicians for very short periods of time might just have been what he was used to and he treated other members of 'his' band as disposable session type players.
It's a real shame that Ted Nugent and Derek St. Holmes couldn't each have dialed their egos down just a few ticks, because they were such a great combo.
Not a band member, but Sharon Osborne would interfere with Ozzy’s band members. Often firing band members or withholding pay. She may have changed the direction of Ozzy’s career.
I saw Whitesnake in Nottinham and John Sykes had a problem with his pedal board , his roadie crawled across the stage to try and fix it and he just kicked him , I was shocked and I have never thought Sykes was a good human since.
it would be great if some of these "problem child" guys get together and form a band... Bruce Dickinson on vocals, John Sykes and Ritchie Blackmore on guitars - hopefully they don't kill each other.
It's true that no one talks about the late 90's and early 00's material from Michael Schenker but I think some should. I will.. Right now! The electric instrumental album "Adventures of the Imagination" and the acoustic albums "Thank You 2, 3 and 4" (three different albums) by Michael Schenker are to me terrific albums from the early 00's. I would rank all of them quite high!
Love this series with Martin. The only contrary thought for me is it seems to be to Deep Purple heavy. A lot of the content features Blackmore and company. I think it would be more interesting if Pete would branch off a little more
I'm going to guess before watching full video. Ritchie Blackmore (called "The enfant terrible of Purple" by Chris Charlesworth), Michael Schenker (called worse by a few), Courtney Love (a ticking timebomb), Axl Rose (king of tantrums), and Dave Mustaine (close second). 😃
Love the comments about Bruce Dickinson and his solo works... all (except maybe Tattooed Millionaire) fantastic recordings that are somewhat overlooked. At the time Maiden had stagnated, Bruce put out some fantastic work.
I think of the Eagles thing with Henley & Frey. Felder had some choice words over the years about those 2 heavy handed dictators. Not sure who was really the “problem child/ s”? It has that Kiss vibe with Simmons & Stanley. Sex Pistols, The Clash were other bands that seemed to implode at the top. That dude in Creed is another, Ronnie Montrose, DLR, Axl, Vinnie Vincent, Philip Anselmo, Billy from Smashing Pumpkins, Courtney w/ Hole, Layne Staley, Scott Weiland, Cash, Ozzy
Waters seemed to become more gloomy and cynical from the mid 70s onwards, when the band became so huge- and also more egotistical. Waters’ had the most complex reaction to the band’s fame (and burden of expectation). His neuroses are well documented in the Wall, I think.
The Chemical Wedding is the best Maiden related record since Somewhere in Time. I agree Adrian needs to be part of the band, but I've generally been underwhelmed with Bruce Mach II.
Great show guys! Axl Rose has to be mentioned, he would miss shows, start hours late, play a few songs and walk off etc etc Too much to list, a toxic personality. Ozzy too, treated a lot of his band mates like shit, a different lineup every second album, ripped a lot of songwriters and bandmates off, i'e. Bob Daisley, Lee Kerslake, Jake E. Lee etc, he was a drunk & a drug addict, who would physically abuse band members, so that never helps things. Love their music but they weren't pleasant guys to work with at times.
A great synopsis of blackmore pete,, was it personnel conflict was it about the money and commercial success or was it just his gargantuan ego i don't think we'll ever know another great show guys much obliged
- Brian Jones (of The Rolling Stones) - David Lee Roth of Van Halen - Chris Robinson of The Black Crowes - Dave Mustaine of Metallica - Pete Best of The Beatles - Syd Barrett of Pink Floyd
David Coverdale comes to mind, you mentioned Sykes and Hughes, but how many line up's has Whitesnake had? With Coverdale being the common denominator here.
Ginger Baker, Jack Bruce, and Keith Moon. Ritchie Blackmore is such a obvious choice. He seems to have a sociopathic disregard for the feelings of his bandmates. Candice seems to be able to handle him quite well and soothe the savage beast. Morrison is the other obvious choice. I would have hated to be in a band with that asshole. Maybe the Doors could have continued to have success if they replaced him with a great singer rather than having Ray take on vocals. We'll never know. This was a great topic for today's discussion.
glenn hughes has all my respect for working his program and still making great music.waters can't stand him since the 60s.funny how barrett was supposidly his buddy,but when he was making his solo album everyone from floyd helped him except the arrogant waters
Actually Barret and Waters never were buddies. Waters lead the band from day one BUT someone (probably Mason) suggested take Syd to play guitar and suddenly SB overshadowed all others. It annoyed Waters as the real leader a lot. He was never Syd`s friend. Mason and Wright were, also Dave but not Roger.
I have to correct some of you here. Waters and Barrett were childhood friends and went to school together. Waters knew him before any other member of Pink Floyd. Where I will delve into speculation as you all have done, is that perhaps Waters found the changes and deterioration in Barrett harder to deal with than the others, and he didn’t want to have to handle it as closely as his bandmates. Instead he wrote songs about it.
Yes you are right, but Waters never liked Piper....and when Syd began acting strange, he wanted him to leave, so one day they just didn't pick him up, going to a gig
Ted Nugent has been on record many times as of late about feeling "Comfortably Numb" too much to realize what is really at stake for our species and aside from politics is a much BIGGER and LARGER issue at hand here. Most people want to run away from these topics but if you have children or grandchildren then eventually you may want to hear and listen to what is going on here. I think lots of bands were making a statement and trying to state this mindset hoping to help out the state we are all living through right now. Much of that obviously has helped. The time is now for the Rest of Us to stop all of this insane movement that does not involve a Pro Human future moving forward. We cannot have people that work for We the People making billions and eventually trillions of dollars moving our species into a future where we just forget about so many great souls. Love the podcast guys. Makes my day
This list is endless: Sid Vicious/Johnny Rotten John Lennon Sebastian Bach Guns n' Roses Mötley Crüe Liam and Noel Gallagher Keith Moon Eric Clapton Johnny Cash Brian Jones Lenny Kravitz Sting Marilyn Manson Glenn Frey etc...
Dio has stated Blackmore would spit on his fans during his tenure in Rainbow. I will let that stand as an insight into the man's cruel, blackened soul.
How about Brian Wilson, who very publicly hated Mike Love and who stayed in bed for a couple of years? Speaking of staying in bed, how about John Lennon, who was forever controversial, also Jim Morrison, who always seemed to get himself into trouble, Ritchie Blackmore (moody was his middle name), and Roger Waters, who always seemed to be pissed off about something.
British metal fans may remember the bizarre moment when Sean Harris came on stage dressed as the grim reaper at the band's support slot with Metallica at Milton Keynes in '93. He said something like "Yeah, you like a bit of the grim reaper don't you?" and 60,000 people thought "What the hell are you doing?"
Great Vid ! - Not sure if anyone has mentioned it but this vid seams made for one guy; Vinnie Vincent, I mean the dude got fired from his own band! If him and KISS had kept it together they could have ruled 80s metal. The best none original albums they did have his finger prints on, COTN, LIU and Revenge are all the best post 70s albums IMO
Joe Strummer was a great frontman and singer for the Clash. After their biggest hit album Combat Rock, Joe got uppity and egotistical and kicked out original guitarist Mick Jones. Joe then records the horrible Cut the Crap album with new young musicians and original bassist Paul Simonon under the Clash name. The album sucks and bombs and the original Clash never play together again. Mick forms Big Audio Dynamite and makes a cool album. Joe gets a band called the Mescaleros together who produce unremarkable work. Joe admits his ego ruined the Clash and sadly dies at 50. Maybe the Clash went out on top, or perhaps they still had few more great albums in them. We will never truly know....
Just heard the start of this - Diamond Head are sooooo much better without Sean Harris. They have an excellent singer now. And he insisted on having his mum as manager. Steve Harris found Rod Smallwood and Andy Taylor; Sean Harris found his mum. That is the difference. (and no, never have him back - Rasmus is great)
A curtain of melancholy has covered this episode - no fault of Pete or Martin, of course - but we lost David Longdon, a major talent and a vital component of England's BIG BIG TRAIN, just days ago, due of all things to a tragic household accident. David is a figure who is currently an acquired taste among the knowledgeable few - though sadly, that is going to change in the days ahead, as a number of folks yet unaware of David and BBT are about to become far better acquainted, many through a curtain of tears. A great talent, and a great band, and though he is now gone, his final recordings have yet to be released.....though even if they already had, between his heartbroken fans, and those music lovers about to become acquainted with his wonderful work, David's work will live on in ever-widening concentric circles every time a stylus touches vinyl, or someone presses play on a cd. My apologies for indulging in such facile clichés, but as a Yank who only knew his work, and not the man, I can only strongly recommend his fans - and interested parties who never quite took the plunge - to dive in now; the water's wonderful. RIP and affectionate thoughts and prayers to his loved ones & bandmates. Back to you, Pete and Martin.
What band DOESN'T have problems regarding getting along...at the very least, egos clashing regarding songwriting, who will be the " face " of the band, who is the " real creative force ", in bands with more than one singer, who's the primary lead, bands with more than one guitarist, who is the " lead " guitarist, etc.
Not something you saw with Led Zep. Everyone seemed to be as one. Yes it was Page's band and he produced the albums but he couldn't get a better drummer,singer,bass player.
Super interesting show,gentlemen. I couldn't agree more with what Martin said about Algy Ward and Tank. He and the band deserve way more attention and praise indeed. Those solo Algy Tank albums are way more interesting the the Algy-less Tank,and while we're on that...Tank without Algy is like Motorhead without Lemmy...use another name guys...ah but that wouldn't get as much notice. I always wanted a ranking of the Tank albums from you two but Pete is not that familiar with them. I agree with everything Pete mentioned except the part where you can't wait 4 or 5 years between albums in the metal world,mostly true,except for Metallica. They are hardly worth all the wait (weight? Ha!Ha!) but millions buy them anyway. Another thing,The Doors made music that is timeless and people listen to them even today. Yep,that's right,although not Steven Reid and Simon Bray!
Yeah, I have a concert video where Ritchie doesn't come on stage for the first song. He plays backstage. When he comes out he goes straight over to Jon Lord, picks up whatever liquid refreshment is sitting on top of his organ and proceeds to throw it in Jon's face. Surprised he didn't get up and pound him. I just figured, unlike Ritchie, he was trying to remain professional.
I went to a Nicko McBrain drum clinic in the 90s and he went off on a rant about Bruce, and swore so much in front of a number of small children, to the point it was so embarrassing, with everyone looking at their feet.
The Ultimate Problem Child Musician is Ozzy freakin' Osbourne.
You guys forgot the ULTIMATE problem child: GInger Baker!
Its seems like it did not take much for ANYONE to get on his bad side. In fact he may have been 90% "Bad Side"
The Documentary "Beware of Mr Baker" appropriately depicts him as a roaming vandal leaving a path of professional and personal destruction throughout his career.
Its amazing at times he just abandons situations without a word leaving groups in the lurch with no idea where he moved!
Great call. Blackmore may be an irascible cunt, but Ginger Baker takes that and adds a bunch of violent psychosis to the mix.
I'm a problem child...and I'm wild!
Dave Mustaine and Axl Rose immediately come to mind lol Glenn Hughes is right up their too.
Ace Frehley and Peter Criss for my first favorite band KISS. Great show, fun and interesting topic, highly recommend Glenn's book - unbelievable that he has made it this far - he is a survivor
As Pete said on 10 Jan 2020: He was a 'Mad Man' (referring to Keith Moon of the The Who.)
1. Moon asked a stagehand to rig his drums with an extra charge of dynamite, such that they would explode carelessly at the end of their performance of “My Generation" on The Smothers Brothers. The resulting explosion was caused Pete Townshend temporarily losing his hearing in one ear at the time.
2. Keith passed out on stage after taking a handful of horse tranquilizers
3. He was often drunk, therefore at times playing drums out time.
Didn't he blow up a hotel room too after the other guests complained about him making too much noise?
@@breakaleg10 Dunno about that, but the entire band trashed a Holiday Inn room so badly that the band was banned for life from all Holiday Inns!
Keith Moon ran over and killed his own chauffeur while intoxicated l believe.
@@tomfisher2103 Yes another example of calamity. The tragedy continued to haunt Keith until his death.
So glad that you mentioned Jim Morrison, to me he is still one of the greatest frontman/writer/rocker of all time.
I'll admit I'm a bit late the Pardo + Popoff series, but I have to say it pains me that the 'like' count on this particular episode is at 819. It honestly should be (at least) 819,000. I'll note I'm almost exactly Pete's age, and I KNOW there are legions of folks who would be absolutely fascinated and edified by these lists and conversations. Nicely done, and cheers to you both.
I love the insight from these 2 guys. Pete, this is a great show you have going. Every topic is so interesting....so insightful by all who are involved. I really liked that you picked Jim Morrison. He was definitely a problem child.
I am going to go with Paul Dianno. He hasn’t been able to get his shit together, for a variety of reasons, his entire life.
Too much powder
Yeah, it’s a shame-Dianno is fantastic on those first two Maiden albums. Love ‘em.
My story about Diamond head. I worked for 8yrs for a firm with Brian Tatler's dad. When he retired I went to his retirement party and Brian was there. I spent 10mins telling him they should reform. A few month later they were touring again and then they released Death and Progress.
11:28 "before we're all old and gray, and no one cares anymore"... LOL from two gray-haired guys talking about a dispute in 1987 (34 years ago!). I'm about your age, so I know it is painful, but: we are already there, man. Fun video, as always... the best series on this channel
Glenn Hughes has all my respect; he's been so down the gutter and rose from that to where he is now. Seen him live a couple of times, never disappoints. Great performer and seems a great guy. 🍺🤘
Hughes is a living legend, been down and out and to this day still sounds amazing and looks to be in great shape for a man of 70 years old.
Saw him perform about 6 months ago-great show:)
Liam Gallagher. Noel Gallagher. Blackie Lawless. Axl Rose. Dave Mustaine. Yngwie Malmsteen. Don Dokken. George Lynch. Geoff Tate. Ratt (The whole band)
Popoff and Pardo are at again with a discussion of various reasons that certain individuals can be viewed as a 'problem child.' Jim Morrison immediately came to mind when this show started so glad to see Pete pull and quick-change and include him. There may have been other poster-children for this episode during the late 60s but Pete's choice and discussion was spot on. Particularly down here in Florida where Morrison 'allegedly' exposed himself to the audience in Miami on 3/1/69. Being 13 at the time and also more than 300 miles away, my folks would never have let me go to that concert in any event but this likely caused their increased interest in the concerts my brother was going to at the time and the those I was just starting to be interested in seeing. Thanks to Martin and Pete for another interesting topic and the variations of reasons and people discussed. There ya go!
Heartened to see my man Algy Ward getting some love here. Tank is such a great band.
Yeah a real rock n roll character
1. Ritchie Blackmore
2. Ronnie Van Zant
3. Motley Crue minus Mick Mars
4. Dave Mustaine early Metallica
5. C.C. DeMille
6. Roger Waters
7. Fleetwood Mac Lindsey Buckingham
8. Phil "Philthy Animal" Taylor
9. Ozzy Osbourne with Black Sabbath circa 1978-79
10. Mick Jones vs Lou Gramm
I hate Poison but like CC's guitar playing.
I would not have that Ronnie Van Zant would be considered a "problem child".
ok, I'll talk your word for it, but I have always thought that he was the glue that kept the original band professional and heading in the right direction. The leader of the band. On the other hand Allen Collins always seemed more of a wild out of control member, in my opinion.
This is like the fifth time I've watched this , so entertaining and love the banter and research that was put into this!
Cheers Martin & Pete. As much as I love Roger Waters as an artist and a songwriter (Roger was really the main songwriter after Piper At The Gates of Dawn), I agree with Martin, Amused to Death is far and away the best Floyd solo album, However, I think Roger is a living breathing contraction. Any who has been married as many times as he has and seemingly can’t get along individuals should never be giving advice on how entire nations and millions of people should behave. I agree with you Pete. Rock musicians should not be giving advice in the world of politics when most have such chaotic private lives.
Your comment reminds me of Ricky Gervais at the 2020 Golden Globes. He eviscerated those pretentious, self righteous Hollywood elites for their preaching practices while demonstrating such a lack of character in their own personal endeavors and business dealings. It could very well have been directed at Roger Waters as well.
Don Henley, Jackson Browne, Roger Waters, Sting...seemingly rotten human beings who are always full of advice for how everyone else should live
"Contradiction."
A very virulent anti-Semite as well.
Axl Rose is the ultimate problem. Over 10 years to do Chinese Democracy, been over 10 years since that has come out. And he has no urge it seems to release more music. Meanwhile Slash and Duff release album after album.
Hello, Axl.
LOL
He'll be a couple o hours late.....Probably.
Hi Axl! Hi Axl! Where's Axl? Hi Axl!
@@ALTDOK667 Come On Over N Shoot The Shit.
When I was 12 or 13 years old, my favorite uncle moved me and showed me Animals by Pink Floyd. That Album may not be their best ever but in my mind is top 3 ever in their discography. Just amazing top to bottom. The whole album is so incredible. All of the players doing just insane things and it all comes together with this Wall of Sound. I know that stoners and acid/ mushroom trippers love all of this but you do not need any of that to absolutely love this record by Pink Floyd/Animals... What a beast of a record. Wish you were here, Dark side of the Moon. Just bang bang albums of the 1970's. Gilmore's tone is just on another planet level
This is fantastic as are all of these debates and Podcasts.Keep up the excellent work
Well done Martin, mentioning Tank. Love to see a Tank ranking with Martin.
Thank you Martin for introducing me to the band tank. I was glad that it was available on Spotify.
I love Blackmore too but he is the poster child for this topic!
that was a great show, a part 2 would be awesome!!!
Pink Floyd, although career wise it benefited them it is such a sad story, Syd was seen as a problem due to eccentric and detrimental behaviour to himself and the band. They were forced to distance themselves from Syd and with more mental health awareness it is a story that could have ended differently.
It could have ended differently, but I don't think there is any way that Syd could have gone forward as the main songwriter of the band for the next 10 plus years. I'm a 25 year mental health professional and know a good bit about psychopharmacology. Unfortunately the medications that effectively control the psychotic symptoms that Syd was experiencing also dull the creative process and ability to experience enjoyment. This was particularly true with the first generation of antipsychotics which were available at the time.
I think Roger Waters has been more of a problem, the miserable sod
Brian Wilson and SB had similar mental problems. Both went reclusive. BUT BW met doctor Landis who saved him. Really. BW and his family have dissed Landis a lot BUT the guy saved Brian`s life. Syd never found his Landis.
Pete. Your analysis of Blackmore was bringing. Very detailed and spot on. I’m really enjoying this presentation. 👍
Many “problem child” bandmates suffer from LSD (Lead Singer Disease)… lol
Sebastian Bach - Skid Row
Axel Rose - Guns n’ Roses
Dennis DeYoung - Styx
Dee Snider - Twisted Sister
David Lee Roth - Van Halen
Don Dokken - Dokken
Ozzy - Ozzy Osbourne
There are probably hundreds of bands that hated atleast one member of the band.
I though of “show tune” Dennis DeYoung, along with Blackmore when I first saw this topic.
That's was just so good! Thanks Pete die this. Great way to start the weekend... And StarOne, Arjen Lucassen, just announced Adrian Vandenberg on his new album!
Viv Prince, drummer of the Pretty Things was very troubled soul ,but was charismatic , also a talent ,a similar musician was Keith Moon of the Who, again a drummer.
Loved this episode Part 2,3 and 4 should be great too the list is endless 🤘😂
This is a great topic. Looking forward to a reprise.
The John Sykes thing is really weird. Way back in about 1978 before Tygers even, I wouldn’t say he was a friend but our paths crossed socially and with his then band Streetfighter a few times. He was a really laid back and friendly bloke ,but ambitious person that just seemed to enjoy playing and writing. Obviously that was 43 years ago and we all change but I don’t recognise this version of Sykes that is so reluctant to get his music out there and be playing live.
He seems like he didn’t care for the process after a while. Perfectionism snares another troubled legend.
Possibly depression?
John Sykes must be in his 60s , he's old enough to retire from music. He recorded 2 albums with Tygers of Pantang in 1981 , he joined Thin Lizzy the following year, recorded 2 albums with Whitesnake, 1 being their best selling album. Blue Murder albums wound up in the bargain bin sections of your favorite Record Store, but still they were real major label albums. I would consider John Sykes more of a success in his own way than Guns n Roses who are still only remembered for 2 successful studio albums. A lot of musicians would be happy just to have been part of the NWOBHM movement, so give the guy a break already
John Sykes doesn't like the promotion side of music. I wouldn't label him a perfectionist, a bit of a control freak maybe.
Martin's camera is more focused on the cabinet behind him, while he is almost out of the frame to the left. And, his volume is lower than Pete's volume. Just an observation, but still a great video and topic.
Martin is promoting his books by the angle, go figure...
Axl Rose comes to mind when I think of "problem child"!
Another great episode as always! I just wish that Martin would move to his left a little bit or move his camera. The last bunch of episode sometimes his head is completely off screen.
Yeah. I think he does it as its the most comfortable way for him to point his vinyl and CDs at the camera around his microphone.
Aka the Ritchie Blackmore show.
My top 5 "problem child" list (in no particular order)...
1. Sebastian Bach's prima donna antics which caused him to get booted from Skid Row.
2. Vinnie Vincent's shady behavior with Kiss, causing him to sue the band multiple times and lose every time.
3. Vito Bratta's steadfast refusal to participate in a White Lion reunion for reasons unknown.
4. Ritchie Blackmore being an asshole by all accounts, and I'm sure Deep Purple is glad he's not in the band!
5. Vivian Campbell biting the hand that fed him and being a dick to his former employer Ronnie James Dio.
@RJC 72 seems like Viv Campbell only wanted Dio to live up to the promises he had made to Campbell and Appice, i.e., follow through on your promises
Dio was an asshole.he had problems with a lot of musicians (i'm a great fan of the first 4 Dio albums).
Glenn Hughes was a great pick. Really like after his turn around how great he was on the Tony Iommi solo albums 1996 DEP Sessions and Fused; really wish they'd do something again... Dead Daisies is good, but it doesn't scratch that doomy itch that Iommi/Hughes does.
I love the Dead Daisies album he did, but the DEP sessions is my favorite album Glenn has ever been a part of.
Fused is a great record. Saw a great review in the NY Post back then that made me get it. Excellent stuff. Bought the DEP sessions after and they were my first intro to Glenn Hughes. Guy has some pipes!
You are right on the money with Jim Morrison. The documentary on the Whiskey night club gives the real story on why they were fired.
Maybe out of the wheelhouse but the classic problem child that first came to mind was David Crosby...
I saw both Diamond Head and John Sykes in the early 80's, both should have been huge but just disappeared...
The Ankh Warrior himself, Vinnie Vincent, is one of the most famous examples of this, isn't he? As much as I love him, both as a guitarist and as a vocalist as well.
I always love these shows with Martin, the insight and stories are great. One "Problem Chid" that comes to my mind is Steven Pearcy of Ratt, what an ego and the shenanigans he pulled. I know he was banned from the KNAC radio station studio because he trashed it a couple of times in the 80's.
Ritchie always seemed to chase the dollar which surprises me but he just does.
Pete that may be potential for a topic your comments on Jim Morrison, the extemporaneous nature of the bands live show vs the studio album and why some did it and some just played the same notes show after show.
Almost all musicians who saw Jim Morrison performing live have said how disappointed they were.
Kudos to band members who were incredible musicians and had some problems and are still here today living. A new wake up call or some call it "Red Pilled or Born Again"... Just because some folks figured out themselves later on does not make them not as "So Cool" back then. I admire people that have figured out some things and can have a new path in life. We lost so many great souls in the past. So many musicians obviously in their 20's. The whole 27 year old ditty. Hendrix, Morrison, Joplin, Cobain, etc... Looking back at all of this, we are now under full disclosure type of phase where the general public are wondering what in the frigg is going on today? Why does the President of the United States look so different than he did in the past? How did he become the POTUS in the first place. The guy only got about 15 people attending his rallies while the other side had packed Stadiums? Perhaps we are witnessing some major changes in the Timeline Shift here? I think so. Buckle up. Music is so important where this ship is heading. We are avoiding a non-sensical new Civil War but a new Revolutionary War without much violence on the surface. Much of this is being done behind "Closed Doors". We are living in an Information War. Spiritual War, Frequency War, Biblical War, etc. All is good. All we have to do is be more than 51% Service to others and not more than 51% Service to Self. Treat others how you want to be treated. I do not want to talk about this in this Comment section but we are stuck in this Paradox because 70% of the population just do not want to wake up to reality here. All we need is another 10% to acknowledge that this is Really going on and happening. All INFLATION and stupid Taxed will come to a screeching halt immediately. Housing, Banking, Loans, Debt, Stress will all Stop and we will have a new renaissance once the common folk realize that all of this is a FRAUD. Washington DC has been shut down for more than 2 years. All Fakery and so called leaders carrying on wearing "Rubber Masks" and pretending. Most of what is going on is with Computer Graphics and CGI. Turn off your TV sets and wake up to REALITY again. I love this channel. This channel is REAL I am tired of living in fake land and going to my grocery and downtown restaurants and being sucked into the FAKE REALITY that just does not EXIST anymore. This all stops when the 70% wake up to all of this nonsense. Great show Martin and Pete! You guys know your music and we will get there. I understand that these topics are hard for folks but millions are wondering why this is taking so long for good people to just wake up a bit more to reality.
Richie Blackmore played on a lot of sessions for singles in the 1960's (same as Jimmy Page) and so that background of playing with lots of different musicians for very short periods of time might just have been what he was used to and he treated other members of 'his' band as disposable session type players.
Good chose Pete. I love the Doors.
It's a real shame that Ted Nugent and Derek St. Holmes couldn't each have dialed their egos down just a few ticks, because they were such a great combo.
They did tour together a few yrs ago and the magic was still there.
Ted wants the lions share of the money. He has been through so many band members, a revolving door
Not a band member, but Sharon Osborne would interfere with Ozzy’s band members. Often firing band members or withholding pay. She may have changed the direction of Ozzy’s career.
I saw Whitesnake in Nottinham and John Sykes had a problem with his pedal board , his roadie crawled across the stage to try and fix it and he just kicked him , I was shocked and I have never thought Sykes was a good human since.
it would be great if some of these "problem child" guys get together and form a band... Bruce Dickinson on vocals, John Sykes and Ritchie Blackmore on guitars - hopefully they don't kill each other.
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It's true that no one talks about the late 90's and early 00's material from Michael Schenker but I think some should. I will.. Right now!
The electric instrumental album "Adventures of the Imagination" and the acoustic albums "Thank You 2, 3 and 4" (three different albums) by Michael Schenker are to me terrific albums from the early 00's. I would rank all of them quite high!
Love this series with Martin. The only contrary thought for me is it seems to be to Deep Purple heavy. A lot of the content features Blackmore and company. I think it would be more interesting if Pete would branch off a little more
Deep Purple is without a doubt Pete's favorite band
This is gonna be good.
Glenn Hughes awesome voice and a great bass player.
I'm going to guess before watching full video. Ritchie Blackmore (called "The enfant terrible of Purple" by Chris Charlesworth), Michael Schenker (called worse by a few), Courtney Love (a ticking timebomb), Axl Rose (king of tantrums), and Dave Mustaine (close second). 😃
Love the comments about Bruce Dickinson and his solo works... all (except maybe Tattooed Millionaire) fantastic recordings that are somewhat overlooked. At the time Maiden had stagnated, Bruce put out some fantastic work.
I think of the Eagles thing with Henley & Frey. Felder had some choice words over the years about those 2 heavy handed dictators. Not sure who was really the “problem child/ s”? It has that Kiss vibe with Simmons & Stanley. Sex Pistols, The Clash were other bands that seemed to implode at the top. That dude in Creed is another, Ronnie Montrose, DLR, Axl, Vinnie Vincent, Philip Anselmo, Billy from Smashing Pumpkins, Courtney w/ Hole, Layne Staley, Scott Weiland, Cash, Ozzy
Rick, David, and Nick were all together on the same page. Rogers ego, and vision, was very different.
Waters seemed to become more gloomy and cynical from the mid 70s onwards, when the band became so huge- and also more egotistical. Waters’ had the most complex reaction to the band’s fame (and burden of expectation). His neuroses are well documented in the Wall, I think.
The Chemical Wedding is the best Maiden related record since Somewhere in Time.
I agree Adrian needs to be part of the band, but I've generally been underwhelmed with Bruce Mach II.
Great show guys! Axl Rose has to be mentioned, he would miss shows, start hours late, play a few songs and walk off etc etc Too much to list, a toxic personality.
Ozzy too, treated a lot of his band mates like shit, a different lineup every second album, ripped a lot of songwriters and bandmates off, i'e. Bob Daisley, Lee Kerslake, Jake E. Lee etc, he was a drunk & a drug addict, who would physically abuse band members, so that never helps things. Love their music but they weren't pleasant guys to work with at times.
Agree with Ozzy. And you have to add Sharon into the mix. Treated people like shit
@@joeylyons4549 I absolutely agree with you, she was worse in some ways.
Vining Vincent era Kiss was the first that came to mind after seeing the show title…
A great synopsis of blackmore pete,, was it personnel conflict was it about the money and commercial success or was it just his gargantuan ego i don't think we'll ever know another great show guys much obliged
Derek St. Holmes sang for Blood Of The Sun on their third album .😀
Diamond Head such an underated band love the original but they have a fantastic singer now absolutely awesome 👌
- Brian Jones (of The Rolling Stones)
- David Lee Roth of Van Halen
- Chris Robinson of The Black Crowes
- Dave Mustaine of Metallica
- Pete Best of The Beatles
- Syd Barrett of Pink Floyd
Pete Willis of Der Leppard to be added here.
Interesting show and great selections. I love Nugent but wonder if he was the bigger problem than DSH.
David Crosby, Blackie Lawless, Gene Simmons, Axel Rose, and Johnny Rotten ( John Lyndon)
David Coverdale comes to mind, you mentioned Sykes and Hughes, but how many line up's has Whitesnake had? With Coverdale being the common denominator here.
Could a Glenn Hughes solo album ranking be in the works ? If you had mentioned it before, I'm sorry I missed it.
Ginger Baker, Jack Bruce, and Keith Moon. Ritchie Blackmore is such a obvious choice. He seems to have a sociopathic disregard for the feelings of his bandmates. Candice seems to be able to handle him quite well and soothe the savage beast. Morrison is the other obvious choice. I would have hated to be in a band with that asshole. Maybe the Doors could have continued to have success if they replaced him with a great singer rather than having Ray take on vocals. We'll never know. This was a great topic for today's discussion.
Remember Blackmore at Cal Jam '74 smashing his guitar into the TV camera, Ritchie's the ultimate anti-authoritarian guy.
Speaking of Nugent...his drummer for about 8 years...Gunner Ross...just passed away.
glenn hughes has all my respect for working his program and still making great music.waters can't stand him since the 60s.funny how barrett was supposidly his buddy,but when he was making his solo album everyone from floyd helped him except the arrogant waters
Actually Barret and Waters never were buddies. Waters lead the band from day one BUT someone (probably Mason) suggested take Syd to play guitar and suddenly SB overshadowed all others. It annoyed Waters as the real leader a lot. He was never Syd`s friend. Mason and Wright were, also Dave but not Roger.
But later....Waters regretted what he did, and made Wish you were Here
I have to correct some of you here. Waters and Barrett were childhood friends and went to school together. Waters knew him before any other member of Pink Floyd. Where I will delve into speculation as you all have done, is that perhaps Waters found the changes and deterioration in Barrett harder to deal with than the others, and he didn’t want to have to handle it as closely as his bandmates. Instead he wrote songs about it.
Yes you are right, but Waters never liked Piper....and when Syd began acting strange, he wanted him to leave, so one day they just didn't pick him up, going to a gig
@@jimmycampbell78 i have doubts Rog and Syd were childhood friends because Sy was younger some years.
Ha! Slip of the Tongue! Good one Pete
Dennis Wilson on The Beach Boys was def. a problem child and also his brother Brian. Two in one band.
Very interesting topic guys. One that you didn't touch on who really isn't a household name but definitely big trouble is Vinnie Vincent.
Ted Nugent has been on record many times as of late about feeling "Comfortably Numb" too much to realize what is really at stake for our species and aside from politics is a much BIGGER and LARGER issue at hand here. Most people want to run away from these topics but if you have children or grandchildren then eventually you may want to hear and listen to what is going on here. I think lots of bands were making a statement and trying to state this mindset hoping to help out the state we are all living through right now. Much of that obviously has helped. The time is now for the Rest of Us to stop all of this insane movement that does not involve a Pro Human future moving forward. We cannot have people that work for We the People making billions and eventually trillions of dollars moving our species into a future where we just forget about so many great souls. Love the podcast guys. Makes my day
What are you talking about? The continued degradation of the environment or the huge inequality currently taking place?
This list is endless:
Sid Vicious/Johnny Rotten
John Lennon
Sebastian Bach
Guns n' Roses
Mötley Crüe
Liam and Noel Gallagher
Keith Moon
Eric Clapton
Johnny Cash
Brian Jones
Lenny Kravitz
Sting
Marilyn Manson
Glenn Frey
etc...
What did Lenny do? Always seemed like a chill guy to me.
Geoff Tate. Axel Rose. All the members of Ratt. Don Dokken. Kk downing. Gary Moore. Steve Perry.
Good show fellas
Dio has stated Blackmore would spit on his fans during his tenure in Rainbow. I will let that stand as an insight into the man's cruel, blackened soul.
Bobby Liebling from Pentagram
How about Brian Wilson, who very publicly hated Mike Love and who stayed in bed for a couple of years? Speaking of staying in bed, how about John Lennon, who was forever controversial, also Jim Morrison, who always seemed to get himself into trouble, Ritchie Blackmore (moody was his middle name), and Roger Waters, who always seemed to be pissed off about something.
Ginger Baker, Axl, Paul Di'anno, Ian Anderson, DLR.
British metal fans may remember the bizarre moment when Sean Harris came on stage dressed as the grim reaper at the band's support slot with Metallica at Milton Keynes in '93. He said something like "Yeah, you like a bit of the grim reaper don't you?" and 60,000 people thought "What the hell are you doing?"
How about a show along these lines about a 'band' which is really just a solo act (Ritchie Blackmore and Rainbow, Blackie Lawless and WASP etc)?
Great Vid ! - Not sure if anyone has mentioned it but this vid seams made for one guy; Vinnie Vincent, I mean the dude got fired from his own band! If him and KISS had kept it together they could have ruled 80s metal. The best none original albums they did have his finger prints on, COTN, LIU and Revenge are all the best post 70s albums IMO
For Richie Blackmore it’s always been all about Richie Blackmore.
Except for the past 25+ years ...it's all about Candice, and we all wish it was all about Ritchie! Cheers!
To tell you the truth; if I were Ritchie Blackmore, I'd be all about Candice too... Cheers. ;)
Joe Strummer was a great frontman and singer for the Clash. After their biggest hit album Combat Rock, Joe got uppity and egotistical and kicked out original guitarist Mick Jones. Joe then records the horrible Cut the Crap album with new young musicians and original bassist Paul Simonon under the Clash name. The album sucks and bombs and the original Clash never play together again. Mick forms Big Audio Dynamite and makes a cool album. Joe gets a band called the Mescaleros together who produce unremarkable work. Joe admits his ego ruined the Clash and sadly dies at 50. Maybe the Clash went out on top, or perhaps they still had few more great albums in them. We will never truly know....
Joe also took over as singer for the Pogues is my memory serves me correctly. From Shane McGowen.
Just heard the start of this - Diamond Head are sooooo much better without Sean Harris. They have an excellent singer now. And he insisted on having his mum as manager. Steve Harris found Rod Smallwood and Andy Taylor; Sean Harris found his mum. That is the difference. (and no, never have him back - Rasmus is great)
A curtain of melancholy has covered this episode - no fault of Pete or Martin, of course - but we lost David Longdon, a major talent and a vital component of England's BIG BIG TRAIN, just days ago, due of all things to a tragic household accident.
David is a figure who is currently an acquired taste among the knowledgeable few - though sadly, that is going to change in the days ahead, as a number of folks yet unaware of David and BBT are about to become far better acquainted, many through a curtain of tears. A great talent, and a great band, and though he is now gone, his final recordings have yet to be released.....though even if they already had, between his heartbroken fans, and those music lovers about to become acquainted with his wonderful work, David's work will live on in ever-widening concentric circles every time a stylus touches vinyl, or someone presses play on a cd.
My apologies for indulging in such facile clichés, but as a Yank who only knew his work, and not the man, I can only strongly recommend his fans - and interested parties who never quite took the plunge - to dive in now; the water's wonderful. RIP and affectionate thoughts and prayers to his loved ones & bandmates.
Back to you, Pete and Martin.
*Insert milk carton with John Sykes on the front*
Brian Robertson of Thin Lizzy
What band DOESN'T have problems regarding getting along...at the very least, egos clashing regarding songwriting, who will be the " face " of the band, who is the " real creative force ", in bands with more than one singer, who's the primary lead, bands with more than one guitarist, who is the " lead " guitarist, etc.
Not something you saw with Led Zep. Everyone seemed to be as one. Yes it was Page's band and he produced the albums but he couldn't get a better drummer,singer,bass player.
Super interesting show,gentlemen. I couldn't agree more with what Martin said about Algy Ward and Tank. He and the band deserve way more attention and praise indeed. Those solo Algy Tank albums are way more interesting the the Algy-less Tank,and while we're on that...Tank without Algy is like Motorhead without Lemmy...use another name guys...ah but that wouldn't get as much notice. I always wanted a ranking of the Tank albums from you two but Pete is not that familiar with them. I agree with everything Pete mentioned except the part where you can't wait 4 or 5 years between albums in the metal world,mostly true,except for Metallica. They are hardly worth all the wait (weight? Ha!Ha!) but millions buy them anyway. Another thing,The Doors made music that is timeless and people listen to them even today. Yep,that's right,although not Steven Reid and Simon Bray!
Yeah, I have a concert video where Ritchie doesn't come on stage for the first song. He plays backstage. When he comes out he goes straight over to Jon Lord, picks up whatever liquid refreshment is sitting on top of his organ and proceeds to throw it in Jon's face. Surprised he didn't get up and pound him. I just figured, unlike Ritchie, he was trying to remain professional.
I went to a Nicko McBrain drum clinic in the 90s and he went off on a rant about Bruce, and swore so much in front of a number of small children, to the point it was so embarrassing, with everyone looking at their feet.