CHINESE ELECTRIC SPORTBIKE - Top Speed [AFTER MODS]
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- The electric sportbike from China is officially pretty fast!! Today I do the top speed run and see how much performance it is capable of. It's highway ready for sure, but there was one issue I was running into at the end...
If you're new here, this is the Electric Motorcycle I ordered from Alibaba.com (from china) that was a POS when I got it. Many upgrades and mods later we are here!
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This guy literally made a bike of our dreams out of a cheap Chinese bike! Every Mod he adds, inches me more towards my screen! #hooked
Did he say what the total cost came to? I know it's not going to be some bargain and doing the work yourself is something to be considered but would like to know. Looks sweet and hopefully rides safe for it's lifecycle
@@blakehenderson8828 cost breakdown coming Friday 👌🏽
Nice! Looking forward to it man
Was this the same bike he first bought for like 1500. Or a different bike.
Facts
Congrats m8 .. literally turned lemons into lemonade
Skylin Megas metaphorically
I must have missed the part where he made actual lemonade.
I feel like people would have enjoyed the tuning part.
Yes I agree. I want that video.
Enough likes and I'll do it
@@TheInja how many likes is enough likes? I want to see this video as well haha
Yes please
Nahhh
This is how many people have been waiting for this Video! Great work
👇🏻
I don’t get a heart inja?
And a pin for ya
The Inja HELL YEA! I am honored!
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@@TheInja dyno it !!!
I think a lot of us wanna see how much torque and hp it makes
Based on the top speed my best guess is around 20hp and 90Nm of torque
i dont know why people would dislike the video i mean just sit back and acknowledge how much effort is put into mods like this also imagination and the will to set it into motion weather it turns out a flop or not his having fun and learning different things along the way knowledge is power!! you got my interest my like and most of all my respect keep up the good work
Hi mate, I have built my own scooters twice in China and one could do 117kph. Two tips: You can get a waterproof external mount kit for the controller and mount it where the exhaust silencer would usually be. It looks cool and you'll have great heat dissipation.
If you're worried about the axle nut, you could drill a small hole through the corner of the nut between two flats and safetywire it in the tightening direction (clockwise) to something stationary. It's an aircraft manufacturer technique to keep nuts tight and from backing off during stress and vibration.
Personally I would turn of regen or reduce the level, when going that fast or even just 50 the motor can produce a lot of amps under regen that it is dumping into the controller but the controller will only allow what is safe to get to the battery and the rest is burned of as waste heat and this significantly heats up the controller, the amount of power that gets to the battery through regen is usually never enough to give any significant range benefit, the only benefit is an engine braking effect, I guess the other option is strapping a cooling fan on it.
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Surely if you turn the regen braking OFF the controller will have even more power to have to dissipate ?
This is a really good point. Most ev's ramp up the Regen as the battery dies down to allow room for the regen power. My zero and 500e both do this.
I'll second that. Regen is the destroyer of controllers. Especially if you're close to the mosfet voltage limit. Maybe ditch slip regen and just use an ebrake button or tie in with the lever, your kelly might have variable regen too, so you can gauge how much regen you want on the fly.
@@WhiskeyGulf71 Nope, They freewheel silky smooth without slip regen. It's literally as if the motor was disconnected during freewheel without regen.
@@WhiskeyGulf71 No, when regen is disabled it remains as an open circuit, so when you twist the throttle it closes the circuit letting the power flow and as soon as you let go to coast it opens the circuit so the motor is not technically connected and so cant generate power, this allows it to freewheel smoothly and freely. However with the regen setting he used it was always a closed circuit and in this state it will always generate power and cause resistance and excess energy that leads to heat.
Personally on my high power ebike I have regen enabled but only when i pull the brake lever this allows me to save power by coasting/freewheeling down hills but i still have the benefit of engine braking to assist when stopping
I am an ex-military guy with my wife and kids. I am a disabled veteran that works for a university and I am just looking at cheaper options to getting a motorcycle to just to ride to work and back. The other two vehicles are for my wife and daughters to use. My son is too young to drive yet. Thanks for your awesome show.
I've been keeping up with your built of this bike from the beginning and decided to get myself an E-bike after the 4th episode just to mess around with. It will arrive on the 16th of this month and I'm very excited about it! Thank you for being an inspiration to me and my fiance and keep them videos coming bro!
Much love from Malaysia!
Absolutely! Good luck my man!
How is the build coming along?
How is that bruh .??
Yeah im waiting for your news too!
Sorry for the late reply guys. The link below is to my reddit page where I have just posted a picture of my bike. Couldn't put much info in the description but ya'll are welcome to ask me any questions on the post itself. Cheers!
www.reddit.com/user/Lyricalnotmumble/comments/jtyi3j/bought_this_ebike_from_china_for_6000_usd_not_bad/?
I appreciate the hard work you guys put into creating this content and i hope you are all keeping safe at this time.
This is sooo fucking awesome bruh and hearing how enthusiastic you are makes this video so much better
New drinking game: Take a drink every time he says "actually". Awesome improvements, glad you discovered the issue. Keep up the good work!
I do a shot every time he says something like 'freakin' instead of 'fuck', trust me, you get fricked up fast.
@@DaBaltimoron lol
The journey on this build as been an amazing pleasure 🙏
73 mph on 8000w motor glad to see you got it running good. When u reset the key you are resetting the error on the controller. If you want to know why it's shutting off you need to connect it to computer when it errors out. Great job man I love it I look forward to your future videos.
Definitely it's the auto cut off for the controller due to heating
Maybe add some air intakes and exhausts to the controller housing?
@@Koichifirst
Or maybe a liquid cooling plate, pump, and radiator, with Evans waterless coolant?
Well that sounds a bit over complicated XD the controller should be fine with just the airflow from the driving.
@@Koichifirst a simple flex pipe mounting to the front air dam will do it
Videos like these are what inspires me to take up mechanics nice job man
Are you! Interested in ebike projects? Check out my tutorial 😊
@@streetengineer123 where
It's crazy what a solid 12 hp is. Seeing this is making me want to build one
It's definitely more than 12hp. I'd estimate somewhere between 30-55 hp based entirely on the 5 second 0-60 figure he spoke of. Top speed is entirely limited by it hitting the rev limiter on that electric motor.
No no I love the kid that was inquiring about the TH-cam video. Please feature the kid in a video will you. Forgive me asking but I just thought that was sooo adorable. Blessings from Cape Town - South Africa.
I've been watching you for a while. I didn't even know we're in the same city, that's wild af. Yesterday I was watching a MaxWrist video and he was driving through Fresno. Crazy.
Cooling fans is one option but a simple ram air kit should be considered too - these are used on high end sports bikes to direct air into the intake but you could fashion something to pull air over/around the controller.
Great work so far by the way, I've been following this build since the start and I'm a new subscriber because of this!
That bike scares me for one reason no noise loud pipes save lives
That's absolute nonsense. And for the record I have a full Akrapovic system on my ZX6R. It's loud. But it doesn't cure people's perception of speed and distance.
@@bwright138 did you watch the same video the bike isn't making noise cuz he converted it to electric you probably have your motor on yours or something but on this video I cannot hear it compared to a real motor
@@joshuaarreola5813 I was replying to your assertion that "loud pipes save lives."
@@bwright138 well if I can hear ya I would look around for ya at the very least I do drive carefully around bikers myself I ride myself as well just currently don't have a bike
As a biker chick since 1987, I agree, the louder the bike, the better chance to be heard.
The more advantages that a motorcycle has, to be seen or heard, the better ...
REGARDLESS, I would really like to have an e-motorcycle.
Possible horn mods:
•a horn on it that would wake the dead
•a horn that sounds like high rev
•a horn mimicking loud muffler
•a horn sounding like a ship siren
Something like that.
Like the real momments that are NOT edited out...like bike cutting out whaaaaaat?? Seems like something i can relate to 😅 cool video!
You need to cut some vents in the so called gas tank so airflow can help cool the controller. That should make a world of difference 👍👍
A better solution is to add a fan to circulate air or add a scoop to catch air and direct it across the controller.
"Dad and I started out great, then it fell apart like a Chinese motorcycle"
This joke from the Simpsons popped into my head when the video started.
I have a similar bike in Canada. They are sold under the brand of Daymak and are limited to 22mph, but you can remove the limiter with a phone app + with just a battery swap (lead acid > lithium) it can go around 45mph, which is great for just city cruising.
Killing it Inja! Waiting for your videos to come out is like waiting for a new episode of my favourite show!! Keep it up man :)
"THAT'S A HECK OV A LOT FASTER" *speedo reads 0*
Gingy Moto Gingy can’t talk... dude hasn’t posted in 7 months
@@TheInja you can delete sour comments without batting an eyelid.
Thats a heavy wind ! 4 mph wind lmao
Thats definitely the future of a touchscreen dashboard for motorcycles! And you just made it amazingly! Keep up the great work!
My qs 8kw motor with Kelly controller came in today! Getting it installed tomorrow! Can’t wait to experience what you experiencing. I think if you turn off regen on the third level speed you can increase top speed. Also look at your tire width to help with top speed.
You should do a 0-60mph speed test. They say under 5 seconds.
what kind of budget is this all running? looks like a fun project
Life With Fitz about 10k CAD for my setup
3k for base bike 72v
5k for 60ah lithium (2x30ah)battery with 2 chargers 4.5a input each
2k for qs 8kw motor hub kit with controller
Also would recommend high quality tires about $200-300 per tire front and rear.
10k y wouldn't just buy a zero motorcycle that goes way faster and unknown it's reliable and safe
Slim Princess it’s the whole point of the series, to build a bike up and upgrade it. It’s fun to watch and fun for them to do
5k for 60ah, rly? It's joke bro, or you very stupid? 2k motor and controller? Bro you rly stupid if you buy for this price.
I've been watching this bike since the beginning and you have turned a nightmare bike into an absolute win! Considering what you spent on it, this thing is amazing! Some 12v PC fans should do the trick for the controller if there is enough space for them.
Got one on the way! Probably add some vents, too.
Hopefully he got Noctua Fans since theyre the best fans.
Drill a hole in the rear axle bolt and put a cotter pin 👍🏻
Safety wire baby!!
@@ihatepms sounds like someone that used to work on military aircraft?
I've always been put off by these hub motors, but you may have changed my mind on that, for packaging it would be ideal for a project I have in mind. Digging the build, that's legit dude
You can also get water cooled hub motors for higher performance. Still, they are pretty limited.
when all your fav youtubers been posting one by one...
what a start🔥
I will never be a hater of your custom build motorcycles, especially if this is the first custom electric Chinese bike on TH-cam, i want to do this in my e scooter lol
Bro i love this build... and the mirrors remind me of the old school ones.
I need those mirrors :D
The Bike is getting better and better just like your channel, thanks for the video Bro.
Wow this has come a long way and 73 miles an hour that’s absolutely amazing. Really cool to see that but u should figure out that problem that caused it to stop cuz that could potentially be dangerous but it’s really cool all coming together.
For sure
Stopping that much, I think I will stay with my gas powered Harley-Davidson, 09 Electra Glide. But it looks fun
Dude that was awesome! By the way we can still have it at around 150km top speed, with the automatic shutdown feature try to turn off regen, and try to listen for the beep codes that will help, i'm building mine now and will upload a video response to your vids :)
73 on that thing is something to be proud of.
It would be so cool if you started an electric bike company bcoz of this bike. Great vid!
It would be cool to see some WHEELIES ON THIS BIKE
Yea, definitely after fixing that regen braking issue though lol
Hey brother...I found your channel.. AWESOME!!! Didn't know you that you are in,FRESNO CA. I'm from,SANGER...We have to get together sometime and do some riding. Can't wait for your next video. Keep up the great work,GOD BLESS
Sounds like the controller may need a little bit more airflow. Maybe some 12 volt computer fans? I'm sure you will figure it out.
Yessir! Got one ordered!
@@TheInja Some of the e-bike crazies use PC radiators and pumps to cool their controllers. Honestly though, 73 mph isn't *that* fast, are you sure you have it configured correctly?
I’ve been enjoying your vids through the last 6 months; I’m VERY impressed w/ your efforts from just fact findings to where you R now w/ this realized project. I wish U the absolute best!
Your homemade Zero is amazing! But what about the stock dash? You just installed the GPS over it?
Yessir! Does read speed anymore. Just check it for battery voltage after each ride.
@@TheInja it was reading speed from the previous motor? or? There was no way to rig it with the new motor. I like everything about the build but it's more my style to keep more of the oem look vs. a GPS over the stock dash. Keep doing what you're doing and I'd love to see any mods you to to help thermal displacement on the controller; shutting off like that could be dangerous depending on where/when it happened.
I'd try to duct airflow into the controller compartment. Maybe add some heat sinks. Great series man! Keep up the good work.
Do some 0-60 times! We want to see the acceleration. Either record the time with camera or GPS app
he did it in another vid, 0-60 in 4.2 i think
absolutely love it. kinda wish i had one but that is a lot of work, but i guess it's not work when your heart is in it.
For sure 🔥
Nope. It's Voltage sag.
When you fully open the throttle your voltage is (temporarily (surge)) dropping below the default protect setting. The same thing happens to me when the battery is no longer fully charged.
You need to go back into the Controller settings and lower either the threshold or Max Amp draw.
Or build in capacitor pack which can deliver the peak amps it draws
Battery was still at 79.9V after the ride
@@TheInja
It doesn't matter. The surge pulls it waaay under that until it recovers. But the "low voltage protect" has already been activated which is why it shuts down.
@JD Rides
A cap pack (my experience comes from RC cars and drones, similar but smaller scale, lower voltages and higher amps) will smooth the voltage ripple, kind of delaying/reducing the voltage sag a little and depending on the capacity, capable of dealing with high amp draw bursts for a set amount of time.
Yet, in the end the battery can only deliver what it can deliver. With or without capacitors. A typical li-ion configuration will deliver up to 60A per parallel cellpack. A 8k watt motor(assuming its peak) @64-84V will draw up to 130A on high load (acceleration). A 3P or 4P configuration should be able to deliver that with ease. A few bad cells on the wrong places could ruin it though. If you have a 10+% voltage drop on full throttle acceleration i'd look in that direction first. Measuring their internal resistance can give some insight.
Yes, I've experienced similar to both of my ebike & escooter. I'm guessing this can be limited in the controller settings, to prevent the throttle from drawing more than what the battery has. Otherwise, a slow increase of throttle input could do the trick.
So weird finding a random TH-cam video and knowing all the streets they’re on.
Looks great man !!! It’s could be your controller.Usually in China when we have some thing over 6000w we have a liquid cooled controller. Also my controller did the same thing and then I changed it to a liquid cooled and I’ve had no troubles with it since.
I’d like to talk and share knowledge about e bikes you can find me on Facebook abritishguy83@hotmail.com
Good to know. We have a fan coming soon!
Bro you have a nice looking bike in there, and it's amazing that you seem to know what you are doing and having a lot of fun, I am saving some money to get an electric bike as well, seeing your videos convince me is an affordable option to get to work but seems like I have a lot to learn about electricity haha, keep it up man
This is so dope..how much did you sink into it?
Video on Friday he said
Way better than expected. Great video!
hey i have one of those bikes...when it shuts off like that it means your operational voltage has "dipped" below the recommended operational voltage (set by you in the controller)
thankyou so much for this info, mine is doing that and I got stuck on the road for a minute was worried, someone was gonna run me over lol. how can I lower that limit?
@@Wanttono if your bike has Bluetooth or USB, the limit should be 10
Volts below so 72volt bikes have a 62volt shut off usually or sprung 64 even
You took an unimpressive bike and made it into a work of art. This🛵 to this 🏍️
💯💯💯
Put a small fan on the controller. You could even wire it up to come on at a certain controller temperate
instructions plz
All the fancy electronics and it still suffered a short circuit , amazing . Cheers
Fancy electronics? Lol
70 mph not bad but I think you can make it go atleast 80. WE WANT MORE SPEED!!! LOL GREAT VID
YESSSS 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I call dibs on buying this bike 🏍
I want this bike so much 😢😭 it looks awesome 👏🏽
Broooooooo what?!?!? You live in fresno?!? I know that’s friant and ft Washington area!!! Bro let’s ride!!!!
That new GPS clock is the Bollox dude.
Great video diary series that is both very interesting and a really good watch.
Hey people give this man more subscribers
I'm tempted to pin but already gave that honor to another dear soul
i have to agree you did a really good job rebuilding it
I couldn’t see your battery voltage, but I had almost the exact same symptoms on my lil ebike. It ended up being that my battery was just not quite powerful enough and after a bit of use and the voltage had dropped, when I throttled hard it would under voltage causing the controller to cut out. Turning it off and waiting a little let me use it again but if I throttled too hard it would keep shutting off. Hope this helps!
Lost only about .8V that ride, wasn't that!
Sebastian meant voltage sag under load. I doubt that is the issue since you have a huge battery pack.
We need to get this guy to 100k subs he’s awesome he deserves it
The real question is can it do wheelies and burnouts
OoooOoo
😂😂😂 the electric unicycle. Saves on front tyres too
@@andyscreen2364 u laugh but that exists
I think putting the zGPS on the bike was wishful thinking. You will never trust that bike from leaving you stranded so you will never further than walking distance from home. ;-)) Fun video.
Max speed:
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73 MPH
slow and weak for ebike
@@Retronyx And your point is?
@@321findus it's a low end e bike that's what I'm saying
Congrats bro, finally you make it.. Awesome hardwork..
Thanks!
I experienced that stop my ebike in the middle or the road. Heat my controller in speed of 86kmph
Are you! Interested in electric bike projects? Check out my tutorial 😊
Street Engineer just subbed!
Dude !! Congrats for your work,all that work paid off ! Good bike for inside town usage ! 73 miles / 117 km pretty descent ! 🤩😉😉
Hey I'm interested in buying one can you give me a update on the whole process
I got one
How long did it take. ? Can u get. On it and just ride or do u have to have it programmed
Friggin awesome. Congrats.. Been following this since the beginning.
"not 1000cc speed" but of an understatement, my 125cc bike can do 70 mph lmao.
That is really nice with that GPS screen there
Can’t be bothered watching him babble on could someone tell me the top speed?
105mph
It's over 9000
88 mph. I'm writing this from the future.
It goes to 11...
Damn this bike is amazing Congrats man you got the dream ebike💪👌 solid
You can do a tiny fan mod on the controller so that it receives flowing air all the time. Another good alternative would to have small vents near the controller and channels that direct airflow onto the controller. A combination of both can be good too.
Awesome videos about this thing man! My onl complaint is maybe you should turn the brightness up on the GPS screen. The glare from the sun makes it pretty much unreadable on camera. at 10:50 you'll see what I mean.
awesome job on the bike. one way to know for sure if its the controller overheat cutoff, is to remove the mock tank and do same test again to allow you to physically put a gloved hand on controller testing to see if its thermal or not if its hot through a glove time to make some air ducts under body work to direct airflow to it
WOW! Amazing electric super bike! I love the tweaks you've done! The future is looking bright! Thank you for sharing! Honestly, just to be safe you may want to check the welds on the frame for structural integrity!
Definitely! Already did, it all seems okay. Not amazing, but sufficient
@@TheInja Still cool because it's the first ever DIY mod's that's not corporate sponsored and that's amazing in my book! Your a pioneer to this new future tech that holds a lot of potential!
Absolutely incredible. What a great experience
70 is about the top limit for most enduro ebikes and elec motor bikes,because of the wind resistance at 70,to increase speed after that requires huge power upgrades,well in excess of 200 amps ,constant draw
it lives you can see it is sooooo much faster. great job.
Been waiting for this, thanks!
Next on The Inja:
Liquid Cooled Chinese Electric Sportbike.
Please? :D lol, fantastic video, man!
Nice man, Great results!
Kelly’s are great controllers but they are pretty basic.
The motor can only spin so fast at the rated voltage regardless of amperage (kv rating). Since it’s a hub motor that means no gears so your basically stuck at that speed more or less. A way to overcome that is to use a controller with flux weakening. This will allow the motor to spin faster at the expense of torque at higher speeds.
I would be sooo nervous of that frame coming apart, I do NOT trust Chinese steel!
Very cool video though man, glad I found your channel!!
Yeah, I would be lying if I said I wasn't slightly concerned every time I ride it 😂
When adding electronics of various voltages you can add a Buck Converter to adjust the voltage draw.
whats up guys im corey! and welcome to coreys world!
Awesome! Congrats on the top speed and upgrades 👊👊
Thanks Matt!
Awsome build from start to finish love the videos keep up the great work
Require a smart BMS, view cell groups and battery amp draw, or a bluetooth active balancer capable of 2+amps per cell group. The cut-off I’ve experienced on a Kelly controller but I suspect was the BMS setting. I raised the amp capacity of the smart Ant BMS, adjusted the battery amp availability on the Kelly, and had no problems include journeys more than 100km continuous. I only draw 63amp max from my battery. Seventy miles an hour that is great. Want more torque then adjust the available amps from the battery via the Kelly and shorten the time to top speed. Be careful could flip the bike. Awesome video maybe buy one those bikes.
awesome build man , personally i don't the "boring" stuff i like all the technical nitty gritty
Good quality man, i like your videos.
Awesome work brother can't wait to see the breakdown and cost very curious especially because the battery is just ridiculously expensive and you build your own I want to see the cost difference
I just don't blood bought a Hisunyes V6 e-moto, & CAN'T WAIT to get it! 👍
It already comes pretty much decked out, with 300mm rotors, good hydraulic brakes, & a bunch of other cool goodies, you can get it with a 2kw motor, up to 8kw motor. The top speed starts at 55mph, & depending on motor size, goes up from there
It looks like a "CyberGrom"!!! 💯😂👍
Sweet bike good job! If you want more peace of mind with the axle nut just drill a hole through both the nut and axle. Remove the nut and drill holes on every side so you can insert a cotter pin and still hit the hole when the nut is tightened in any position.
Drill a hole through the nut and the axle and put a cotter pin or a roll pin through the hole. Great build