I don't think they talked like best friends, maybe the aeon wanted something from Herta in return. When you talk to your friend, do you ask them, "I ask you, what is divinity" or like this "Yo Man, do you know you know what in the scallop is divinity?" It is all a joke, don't take my reply seriously
@@muhdazhad04I agree to some extent, Herta knows the importance of nous but that doesn't mean she feels that he is unreachable, especially since she herself is an emanator, that would mean that Nous sees Herta as worthy of his presence
Guys... She legit just got gazed AGAIN She isn't holding an audience, she just did something that caught his attention This is her 4TH gaze from Nous btw
6:59 if anyone here hasn't grasped how strong and dangerous that damn tree is, let me remind you: "revive" here didn't mean making it habitable again, Ruan Mei could do it just fine. Oh no no... Mf straight up turned that thing into a huge living creature
@@ClownDollThatHasContemptForYou not about that, i was asking if that tree in firefly trailer have something to do with abundance and its emanators. Something like a blessing from abundance
That planet then proceeded to eat an entire xianzhou ship. And I don't mean the small ones, I mean an entire fleet (basically the equivalent of eating the entirety of the Luofu)
I have a few objections to nature of Emanators. For one, Acheron and her entirety is not an outlier. We know that people can be Emanators against their will or even hate their Aeon. Once more Aha is there to show us this as not only do they randomly choose someone but at times Aha will purposely pick someone from the Mourning Actors, who actually hate Aha and abstain, just for the laughs. The only reason Acheron looks like the odd one out is because of IX themselves and what we perceive as their nature not allowing them to even contemplate looking at a mortal to give them Emanator status. If we take the view that IX doesn't care about anything, then Acheron is only an Emanator because she's the only Pathstrider of Nihility or Self-Annihilator that was able to keep hold of herself despite diving so deep into IX's shadow. Secondly being an Emanator can grant a person new power or abilities. I doubt Shuhu, being a tree as you say, would be able to revive or heal anything without the Abundance let alone a planet (Ruan Mei can do it through science so unless Shuhu was like Groot and could move about freely...), Acheron wouldn't be able to passively negate the effects of other Path's powers like Ena's Dream, Finalities' prophecies wouldn't be seen, and Aventurine wouldn't have such a transformation or be able to survive a direct hit from Nihility's power. You do get power, it's just usually the power is inline with a person's preexisting abilities to augment them. This is of course at the discretion of the Aeon but we can not discount the fact that you get potent powers inline with the Aeon's Path.
You're not wrong, but one could interpret what Nova said in a way that alligns with you. For example, Acheron is an outliner? Well, not in the lore. But among the playable characters, or among any characters who we actually know by name, then she very much is. Also, I didn't interpret what Nova said as "Emanators dno't give power". Sure they can, but I think the point was that is MAY NOT be a power, and even if it is, it needs to be usable in a way. A tree has roots which can take and spread sustenance from and to the land, so it makes sense that it can spread a resurrection spell. But what if the tree got super intelligence instead? What could it do? It's a tree, it can't move, talk, or convey ideas and concepts. An intelligent tree would be as useful as a regular tree. And even if a normal human got super intelligence, that doesn't mean they would be given powers of the magical brute force kind. A super intelligent emanator could still suck in combat, even if they are directly souped up by an aeon. I think that's what he was trying to say - being an emanator doesn't necessarily translates into kick-assery potential - even though most of the time it does.
@@SirZelean essentially, the aeons give power, but its not always physical power. like nous didnt bless herta with the ability to suplex a moon, they made her an even bigger nerd than she already was
Acheron power being this strong could help aswell cause the dream master did say something about her power being like a gift from the shapeless and being fathomless and stuff basically we dont know how strong she is cause we dont know what IX does other than nothing
Acheron did say thay she can cleanse the Harmony's curse that Sunday placed on Aventurine so i think she can, to an extent, sort of "overpower" the effect of another path/eminator
I’m glad you made this video because so many people were trying to shoot down your explanations when you specify it every episode. Hopefully everyone actually listened to what you said this time. Great video as always and great work.
Yea we need new term for: • When an Aeon give a blessing to mortal • When an Emanator give a blessing to mortal But what's curious to me, can there be an Emanator got access to more than 1 Aeons powers?
I don't think the Aeons share Emanators specifically but if it's just 1 Emanator getting the power of a second path no matter the means we already have the example of Phantylia who gets her power from the Destruction but was able to use the Abundance's power through the Arbor to craft herself a body and gain some power from the Abundance.
@blackmark2899 Yea it's like the tree is a blessing from the Aeon to Phantylia. Fu Xuan also has the same case except she isn't an Emanator before Nous gave her a blessing.
Ok so from what I've gathered, you can only be an emanator from one path and one path only, but that wouldn't exclude you from receiving a blessing from another path. I see It as, an emanator borrows the powers from an aeon, while a blessing is just a present the aeon gives to a mortal.
@@jp-dx6829not necessarly but it’s highly unlikely to be an emanator of two path.It’s like being both the best basketball and football player. Theorically it shouldn’t be impossible but in practice it’s very unlikely to happen.
In Fu Xuan's case, i see it being the same as Jing Yuan. We can say that Jing Yuan is an emanator but isn't at the same time. Because the Lightning Lord is the "real" emanator there, and it is passed down from General to General in the Luofu but, without the current general to utilize its power, Lightning Lord wouldn't do anything. The same with Fu, she is kind of an temporary emanator, harnessing power from the stone in her forehead... Now that i wrote this, this is similar to the 10 Stonehearts too.
I feel like the Arbiter Generals could be interpreted as emanators or pseudo-emanators depending how you choose to look at it. They indeed were granted power by an Aeon itself. However some may look at it as, the power was given in the form of their spirit warriors, and they are harnessing that power indirectly. I lean towards the former tho, since the spirit warriors are a form of power itself which the Generals have control of. Plus Feixiao basically slapped Hoolay with a miniature Lux Arrow that she was able to summon herself. Great video! Only nitpick is that IX wouldn't even say "it doesn't matter anyway" cuz its incapable of having angst 😂
We haven't actually seen Jing Yuan do anything without using the power of the Lightning Lord though. Yes, he would certainly be capable, but he can only go up against Phantylia because of the Lightning Lord. And Feixiao using a Lux Arrow type thing was only possible because she just received the gaze of Lan, but that was also a one-time thing.
It depends entirely on how you view the Spiritus that the Generals have. By the very definition of how they are defined, being powerful spirits bestowed upon a General by Lan, that would classify the Generals as Emanators because Nanook does the same with the Lord Ravagers, the generals of his Anti-Matter Legion. Also because this isn't just them using it as like a mech like Sunday did the Choir, those spirits are connected directly to the Generals. Otherwise when the Flying Aureus consumed the Crimson Moon, it should not have affected Feixiao. But it acted as if she directed consumed it so if that spirit's directly connected to her then the others would be the same because they are classified as the same kind of thing. But I can see how people would think that the Spirits are the Emanators and are used like weapons for the Generals. It also doesn't help that every time they talk about the Generals in relation to another known Emanator, they don't directly address the Generals as Emanators, only vaguely hint at it. Which doesn't help.
from what I understood xianzhou generals are somewhat like the heartstones, so they all are pseudo-emanators, apart from the ones who grant them their powers like lighting lord for jing yuan
Isnt it mentioned in the game that Acheron killing IX is an act of Nihility by itself? so even if she's against IX, she's ironically the perfect embodiment of nihility? doesnt that make it so shes still a follower of nihility? iirc thats a paradox that they showed in the game. tho the term 'follower' is loose here since its not done willingly
It would be so funny if March 7th is the Emanator of Remembrance that was exiled from Amphorius and Black Swan is luring us there becuse Amphorius is needing her Emanator back to fight some threat still unknown...
I was a firm believer that the Xianzhou generals are emanator of the Hunt, but now i still think that they are (but different) If we believe the Xianzhou legend, that lan rises to aeonhood from a Xianzhou soldier that really despise abundance, so we can speculate that Lan (maybe) still thinks like a soldier. In military everything is hierarchical, so i think the true emanator of Hunt wouldn't be as many as the number of general. I think only the Admiral is the true emanator, but every Xianzhou general gets 2 type of power 1) the title blessing from the Admiral admittance, this makes them a pseudo-emanator 2) Lan themselves give each general a blessing in form of fighting spirit (lightning lord, flying aureus) Tldr. Xianzhou Generals are above pseudo-emanator but below true emanator, probably as the same level as true emanator of non-combatant aeons like erudition, harmony, or enigmata
@@rickelmehanwinckel2699 i even mentioned an example in my sentence above. Erudition as an example, Nous gives power to their emanator not for combat, Nous gives knowledge. Yes those knowledge can also be used for combat but it is not the main objective If you're an emanator of a CHEF, he would've given you a frying pan for cooking. And of course that frying pan can kill someone but is it its main purpose?
Probably is important to note that having an Emanator item (is what I like to call them) doesn't necessarily mean you can use it nor does losing your item mean you can't use its power. Like when Sunday took Topaz's and Jade's Corner Stones, he probably wouldn't be able to use the Preservation's power cause he wasn't gifted them by Diamond who is the original owner. Meanwhile despite Jade most likely being a few planetary systems away from hers could fully utilize its power before even reaching Penacony.
I really hope 3.0 and the new world Amphoreus gives us more clues onto Aeons and Emanators, with The Herta going into more depth and possibly finding something.
This suggests … no in fact, with how much sense this analysis of yours makes, this confirms something rather terrifying about Emanators of Propagation, Emanators of the Swarm. In Skarabaz’z drop material, it immediately tells us that this Emanator was personally created by Tayzzyronth, this fact being combined with your analysis confirms that EVERY TIME Tayzzyronth wanted an Emanator, THEY didn’t pick an insect from the Swarm, THEY personally saw to it, that THEY created an Emanator they way THEY wanted that Emanator. These Emanators were legitimately created to be an Emanator. (Feels a bit similar to Firefly’s story, ironically enough) So … what about Emanators of Fallen Aeons? Tayzzyronth has already been covered. Emanators of Order would’ve lost their Emanator-hood the second Ena was assimilated into Xipe, and we know there are only 4 “Harmonic Strings/Emanators” of Harmony which really challenges the possibility of Emanators of Order still existing. As for Permanence and Voracity, we don’t know enough about these two Aeons, and even less about THEIR Emanators. If I was to throw out a somewhat sensible assumption about Permanence, I wonder if the Propagation’s ability to self replicate its own Emanators was something it took from Permanence, which would suggest that Emanators of Permanence were originally created by Long THEMSELF, until Propagation came along, and now Long is missing so there shouldn’t be any Emanators of Permanence younger than Tayzzyronth. Oroboros is heavily tied to Leviathans, so there’s a chance that Leviathans have some amount of Oroboros’s blessing of Voracity, with so much info about Oroboros unknown, I cannot even begin to imagine how an Emanator of Voracity would even exist. Emanators of Trailblaze interest me greatly, due to Akivili’s closeness to Humanity, and traveling alongside the Astral Crew, Akivili was always helping the Crew in any situation they found themselves in. Akivili’s blessing is the Express, by the power of an Aeon, these followers can travel the cosmos. Interestingly enough, we’ve seen three individuals involved in the Express’s building structure, Himeko who repaired the Express, Ratio who made plans to turn the Express into some type of weapon-wielding Express, and Pom-Pom who seems to be the one responsible for activating the Express’s Lightspeed Travel. Himeko has amazing potential as an Emanator-worthy individual, since she feels like even she’ll live on the Express even beyond Pom-Pom, and has been hinted towards having some kind of pseudo-conversation with Akivili THEMSELF? Then we have Pom-Pom who … probably is an Emanator, since they appeared the second that the Express was repaired, and they were the one who first felt the presence of a MEMOKEEPER!!! Memetic entities whose entire existence is meant to be entirely imperceivable unless they want to be perceived!! Finally, we have Idrila the Beauty. Idrila’s blessings are widely spread and … extremely incredible from what we’ve heard so far. Shards of Mirrors who can literally reshape everything into whatever the individual believes is Beautiful. And then we have the Knights of Beauty whose faith in Idrila is a blessing of Beauty itself, since we have stories from Argenti where we hear about a Knight of Beauty transforming into a monstrous being because of the Path of Beauty. So, Idrila feels a little similar to IX, instead the opposite. Where IX doesn’t care about anyone using THEIR blessing, Idrila cares so much about everything, that everything CAN use THEIR Blessing if they so truly desired to. As for what Divinity is … well, Aeons have a rather unique thing about THEM that is very interesting. They are made out of the Imaginary Type, so, Divinity has some connection to Imaginary Type … so where does the Imaginary Type originate from? What exactly are these Types, and what determines an individual’s Type? Why does Dan Heng IL use Imaginary, while Bailu use Lightning? Why does Jingliu and Yanqing use Ice? Why does Welt, March, and Harmony Trailblaze use Imaginary? Why is Acheron a Lightning Type? Not all of these Types are too difficult to find out, Physical Type is rather self explanatory in many cases, if not all.
I think it’d be cool if you over analyzed some of the characters designs as well, how it relates to their story, character, the quests and so on. Just for fun maybe since you blew my mind with the Kakavasha and Gia-thra-tri-cops relation. I noticed that Sunday’s pupils were grey in the beginning in the penacony quest, but now it’s blue since his character release. I’m not sure if it’s related to the Order or something though or when that change was made.
The Emanators are somehow connected to 1.0 Trace Mats from Crimson Calyx Obsidian of Dread/Desolation/Obsession being Dark Matter from Void Acheron with Black holes Key of Inspiration/Knowledge/Wisdom that's in the hands of Scholars/Sages/Prodigies THErta with Keys Idk if this counts but Harmonic Tune/Ancestral Hymn/Stellaris Symphony That could be referring to Dominicus (Sunday Boss)
My question is. Is the Trailblazer an Emanator, because they received the Gaze of an Aeon? Whenever an Aeon gazes at a mortal it receives a portion of that Aeon's power, the very Definition of an Emanator. So is the Trailblazer an Emanator.
Becoming an emanator grants you access to higher authority/power within the path. Being 'gazed' by them only allowed TB to use the power of the path in general(similar to ordinary Pathstriders) except TB is collecting them like Pokemons.
@@minhtranquoc01yeah, getting recognized only allowed TB to gain access to the path's power. It's stated that emanators have direct access to the authority of the path itself similar to an aeon but on a smaller level.
Aeons granted blessings to us, some direct like Qlipoth and Xipe did it indirectly. Whereas you have to be APPOINTED by the Aeons themselves to enact their will - basically become their Apostles. Like Dominicus is an Emanator of Xipe but they can also be summoned by people affiliated with Harmony or adjacent paths (i.e. Order).
I think that in terms of the discussion of Acheron v. Herta and how Herta would be weaker strength-wise due to Nous being an intellect-focused Aeon, it's a little misleading. Sure, in terms of brute strength Acheron is definitely at an advantage due to her impressive bladeworks, but at the same time Herta's deep understanding of the universe has allowed her to decipher and use some form of actual, tangible magic (at least by Star Rail's terms). So in a situation of their power scaling relative to one another, I think it's less like a Samurai vs a Chess Grandmaster and more like a Samurai vs a Wizard.
I mean, it's the same old question of whether someone who threatened to destroy Penacony, defeated one of the Ten Stonehearts who - if you saw the fight - had a cracked/fragmented Stoneheart, and had almost all access to IX's power be comparable to someone not even the IPC would dare cross blades with, being directly avoided confrontation by the Stellaron Hunters, and had research buddies who casually created an Emanator of Propagation which is wayyy wayyy stronger than Acheron due to Inheriting Tayzzyronth's mandibles and had a Planet Screwllum literally about to go to war with Penaconians had they refused to let him see his friend would be.... ridiculous of a comparison. The Herta has the Simulated Universe - meaning she'd know pretty much almost everything she'll need to know about researching Aeons, including Acheron's. Curious that are capable of destroying Planets and even with the Unknowable Domain's Scepters - which should also be in The Herta's arsenal and had originated from Rupert II which is a bigger of a threat to Acheron only puts the disparity of powers between the two. You could flaunt your strength all you want, but against an entire fleet of Herta Puppets, Curious, Scepters, and who knows what more she could pull shit outta her ass in Amphoreus, you really a time-stopping blade of nothingness can do much?
@@backbackback9845 I definitely agree, I think that Acheron's abilities so far have been largely blown out of proportion and at a similar level to other major characters we have witnessed using powers inherited from their Path (Jing Yuan, Dan Heng, Aventurine). Her feats are impressive especially on her home planet, but I think it's just for the lack of understanding just how much is out there in terms of power in the universe. I definitely think Herta is likely more powerful than Acheron and by a big margin too because in clashes of power strategy is what's always wins out, and it's undeniable that Herta would be infinitely more intelligent and cunning than her. I hope that we get to see more confirmed Emanators in action soon, or more Pseudo-Emanators like Aventurine when he took on the Stratagems form.
@@marihuanosswagherta is like batman In term of raw power herta may weaker than acheron But if she want to defeat or kill acheron,she will know how to do it
@@marihuanosswag I just like to imagine the character's reaction of The Herta finally showing herself after probably a long long time since the story began. Like, sure Acheron uses her Sword sparingly even though we've seen it around 5 times (the one with Inferno Duke, then Tiernan, then Sparkle's bout, then Aventurine, then against Sunday). While this is literally our first time seeing Herta finally showing her true power, which - according to the leaks, is something she does kinda giga-casually.
Theres no path that cannot have raw Power focused abilities,of course paths that are focused on attack will look more destructive,but It doesn't make the others inofensive.its like saying that feixiao solos nous because they are Just smart
A bit differient. As When the cocoon create herrschers.. It also grants them authority. It doesnt matter who wields that power.. The one who wields that power has that power.. All herrscher of the void have controll over Space even outside the universe (like the imaginary space outside the imaginary tree.. Iirc) Meaning the power it gives are constant.. But.. On the other hand.. The type of power it can give is possibly endless. It can be anything.. Wind, void, thunder, even consepts like sentience or Death.. And.. Every samsara it makes a new 12 consept for which herrschers have absolute power upon(based on skill and.. How much energy they have). That is why the Cocoon is considered Nigh-Omnipotent at the least. Bc its powers are basically all encompassing as we know it.. As.. Every 50k year samsara it makes new consepts to embody the herrschers.. And all these herrscher powers are merely shadows.. Of the herrscher of finality's power. Meaning Finality has the ability of all herrschers ever created and can create more... Meaning finality can.. Do whatever she needs to do. Alot of people say the herrscher of death doesnt really preside over death.. But.. Thats not entirely true. It merely cannot revive a person that has lived bc their sentience(soul)desolve too fast it can create a new existence with sentience tho.. Just as Sirin did. It wasny her mother.. But it was alive. (Also herrscher of death is a human given name.. We dint know its true authority). Seele was also able to revive people easily when their soul was intact.
The cocoon is soo extremely diverse in its abilities and powers that it is a very strange being.. Older than most Aeons and possibly one of the oldrst beings in the universe.. And i am almost sure that it was created outside the Imaginary tree.. As the authority of finality that transcends all dimensions can not be created in the imaginary tree aka universe that is made of dimentions. Thats like trying to fit a 10cm box inside a 3cm box. Its not possible for a being that transcend dimensions to be created in a universe with dimensions. Alot of people think its an Eminator or possibly even is the Aeon of Finality. But it is not possible in my opinion. Bc.. The powers it contains is wayy to diverse and all encompassing to ever be an Aeon or belong to an aeon. Its an entirely different type of existance. We dont know its true name.. Or what the Herrscher of finality actually is.. Theyre just human given names.. So that we can understand them. The herscherr of finality is called as such.. Bc she brings finality and is the final herrscher.. Thats all. And the cocoon us called the cocoon of finality bc it is a cocoon from which the herrscher of finality emerges. We dont actually know what theu truely are.
@@BlueCHMA Great... Honkai God decided to be lazy and started using "Auto Mode" via Cocoon(s) of Finality... Makes me wonder how Honkai God would react to what HI3rd Otto Apocalypse did with making more Branches in the Imaginary Tree... Possible Storyline for Honkai Impact 3rd Part 3...? HI3rd Earth captures the Gaze of Honkai God... Last time such a thing happened... GGZ Earth got Erased by the Hands of Honkai God...
@@jasperreyes5174 i.. Dont think there is a Honkai god in this universe. Alot of GGZ expert says that GGZ is an entirely seperate thing.. And that GGZ doesnt take place in the imaginary tree.. There is no imaginary tree mention in GGZ.. And Outer gods are more like story mentions.. And doesnt actually appear ig. In HI3.. Honkai as the people of earth experience it is just Imaginary energy under the influence of the cocoon of Finality. Honkai beast.. And all other shiz are just done by the cocoon. The Cocoon is basically the Honkai god in HI3. Through otto we also know that it can manipulate the imaginary tree to quite an extend.. As with Otto's false god authority he could create a new world with infinite possible branches.
@@BlueCHMA We'll see what miHoYo does with Dreamseeker... There is that one story about the Tree that sprouts from the corpse of the God Zeus that has "Life" and "Worlds" within it's "Leaves"... But as you say... That's one of the Outer God Stories... I still think GGZ is part of the Greater HoYoVerse...
honestly i could be wrong but conserning the generals in my opinion in the hoolay fight when Feixiao basically faces her moon rage i think that cutscene is of Lan blessing her directly making her a Emanator but for Jing Yuan the lightning lord is a power originally held by Teng Xiao so i think thats a case of what you stated as a Pseudo-emenator where Teng Xiao is passing-on/lending that power to the next general as for the other generals idk cause ive honestly not even looked at them but like i said it might be wrong but this is my opinion on the 2 main known generals
The question one needs to ask about emanators: How does one log a cycle; rotating around and around again? Thus, the key to understanding emanations is comprehending action values (AV) as they can be converted to fractions of 2pi radians (complete cycle). For example, a 100% AV boost from Sunday is equivalent to multiplying a number by 2ipi where i represents the square root of -1. Sunday advances this character into the next branch cut and logging this exponential transition produces multiple values (2ipi, 4ipi, 6ipi) separated by 100% AV branches. Like how complex numbers are part imaginary and part real, HSR’s lore is part narrative and part gameplay. One can not fully understand the lore without considering both narrative and gameplay.
To be extremely frank with you author, your explanation is quite intriguing! And very well explained! May the mysteries are still present in HSR, but developers slowly adding new facts and lore with next patch. And who knows, maybe someday, we'll learn more than what we know today))) you deserve like! 👍
If thats the case doesn't that mean if they interfere in hi3 kiana can easily drive off these emanator since kiana is a true Herrscher btw someone said aeon is the creator of law and law it self similar different to herrscher where's they can only manipulate the laws or break itself they even theory that cocoon of finality is on hsr but as a aeon of finality
I see a lot of people wrongly connecting the gameplay paths to the lore paths, but in most cases, they’re not the same. Gameplay paths are more like classes or jobs, while lore paths are more about the faction they follow. One fun fact I like is that Rappa’s gameplay path is Erudition, even though she follows the Hunt in the lore. Technically, though, she’s Erudition in the lore as well.
I have a strange idea. What if an aeon directly blesses another Aeon, thus that secondary Aeon becomes an emanator of the primary Aeon. For example, Fuli’s pursuit of memories and rememberance is critical for comprehending cognition as memories are a function of the hippocampus and part of the brain. So, if Fuli is unraveling the mysteries of the brain through exploring the hippocampus region, Nous might be interested in Fuli’s pursuit and make Fuli an emanator of Erudition. This would grant Fuli access to both rememberance and erudition and consequently emanators of Rememberance would become pseudoemanators of Erudition due to derived power.
Well, in my opinion, if this happened, fuli having access to the path of erudition would be considered as straying from the path of rememberance since yk thats another path and therefore fuli would cease to exist
Xianzhou generals probably are not emanators because things like lightning lord and feixiao’s fox spirit seems to be artifacts of some sorts But marshall fu hua probably is an emanator
Oh, I like the term pseudo emanator. I think that Sparkle is like that, as are the others from Maskfool who have a mask. That's why Sampo was so keen on getting his back. By the way, Sampo's character is mega interesting considering the fact that he's from Belobog. And he knows a lot more about the world than, for example, Gepard, who had no idea about the existence of other Aeons before he met Astral Express. I've always assumed that few characters have any kind of power beyond humans unless they come from a specific race related to it (Dan Heng, Sunday, Robin). For others, only their powers are shown for gameplay purposes (Qingque), or maybe they use weapons or magical items or use some technique (Fu Xuan - divination). For me, Emanator was a description of characters who can draw a lot of power from "nothing" beyond their natural capabilities.
I think that if the generals were emanators it would have been said in the Luofu arc and since that wasn't said and that JY almost died to Phntilya who wasn't even in his real body and still had the astral express with Dan Heng and Welt if I'm not mistaken (Trailblazer and march isn't to powerfull to make difarence)
You said a Worm cant do anything cause its still a worm... But.... The worm literally became massive AND almost destroyed the ecosystem of its planet iirc in the short amount of time it had Theres also rumors of other animal type creatures that are also emanators btw
Well since the main character had been gazed at by the preservation in 1.0 does that make them an emanator of preservation? We havent had any other Aeon gaze at us if im correct and harmony is the power of the hat if I'm correct and destruction was our natural path since all things lead to destruction (see what I did there).
The scene of Feixiao being gazed on by Lan is soo annoying bc how could you not thing she became an Emanator in that moment especially if you aren’t someone who is super into the lore
You did not need to make a term for people who gained abilities through another means. Fu isn't an emenator or even equivalent to one. The third eye only lets her process and perceive the most like outcome due to veritables known. The ten stone hearts aren't emenators or the equivalent because its only a fraction of the power of Diamond they were given. If you want a true example of a "Double" emenator or a person with power from more than one Aeon, look at trailblazer who even conformed by Sunday to receive the glace by Xipe. Meaning every time an Aeon pops up, the trailblazer was glanced upon. Feixiao became an emenator at the end of her 2.5 because of the same visual.
If anything, Fu and the Stone hearts are paths striders since they are drawing upon the power accessible to them. Fu is a follower of the hunt but a pathstrider of erudition that she uses for defensive purposes. She follows the hunt, access the erudition, and prevents destruction like the preservation but also believes that once the future is predicted nothing can change it like Kafka... so also nihility.
As far as I'm aware, the only living emenator of the Xianzhou generals currently is Feixiao. Generals usually are granted items made through Lans arrows to assist them in combat. Like Jing yuan spear and Lightning lord is the spirit of an emenator.
I have a theory.. an opinion, per se, it is that Aeons that bless beings, enhancing their powers, also comes at a price.. or mayhe this only applies to IX, what do you guys think?
I think this only applies to IX since their whole path is about nothingness and making and essentially nullifying everything, so obviously, if you're "blessed" by the nihility, SOMETHING about you is gonna be nullified, the only other paths i see having a price are destruction and abundance, abundance just because of mara like maybe their emanator have to deal with mara on steroids and destruction because well obv but based on phantylia it doesnt seem to have any downsides
@@lynxenzphantylia isn’t have physic body and her mental work different than both mechanic and organic being So if destruction have any negative effect, phantalya will be the one least aftected by it
Phainon is most likely as strong if not STRONKER, also Castorice has had but I don't know it that can be classified as strength... Now that I think of it why doesn't blade just go to Castorice or smth
She will most likely forever stay the most powerful character we've ever encountered. IX is by far one of the strongest Aeons out there after all and judging by Acheron's abilities to even manipulate time and space itself, she is clearly unbeatable.
Lord Ravagers are way Above Acheron it’s not even close but Playable character I thinks more reasonable but debatable due to Welt saying The Generals being Relative to the Lord Ravagers
@@Dank-Ewok Lord Ravengers do not even come close to Acherons. Haven't you seen what Acheron can do? She can manipulate time and space herself. Besides, Phantilya is restricted by the powers of the Aeon of Destruction while Acheron has like no visible limitation
@Zion-l3z He is, but that alone does not explain what he is. As again, Jing Yuan never disclosed it for the players. For the time being, the most mysterious character in all of HSR is Luocha, Gallagher following close behind.
Divinity is the power granted from the universe not the aeons even if they are gods they are still surviving on divinity. Aeons are also like psuedo primordials not true primordials bur being who take over or a reflect the true primordial force. For example destruction already existed by Nanook became a aeon of destruction not the destruction itself, basically taking over the side of divinity or the primordial force. There's also path that are actually force and not the aeon completely, if a aeon dies their doesn't disappers until you can somehow destroy it from the universe for example to remove the destruction you need to destory the primordial force or the energy of destruction that's in the universe not the aeon itself, if you can root out the energy or simply the existence of that context it won't exist
But does that mean every members of factions like the genius society or the memokeepers are emanators? I'm hesitating on this because a lot of people are saying they're not all emanators but this definition would mean they are right ? Idk maybe I just don't understand :')
There are only 2-3 emanators of Nous. Yes members of Genius Society were picked by Nous themselves, if I'm not wrong by glancing at them, let them see Nous. But it doesn't mean they're emanator. As for Memokeepers, it's not confirmed, just speculation based on what Welt said. IMO, unless it's stated directly and explicitly like Acheron, Diamond, and Herta, everything (rating pistol, Generals and Memokeepers are emanators, etc) are just theories and speculation.
Bro this video explain the lore of not one but 2 games of hoyoverse (HI3 and HSR) Especially the relationship between cocoon of finality to Kiana and Sa to Vita
Ok now compare emanators to herrschers, cause I'm still confused there. Since Welt Yang is in this game, so it's only a matter of time till one exists in honkai star rail as well. I mean we now have both the garden of recollection and masked fools in honkai impact. There will be more bleed.
Good video! I as people who always follow honkai Lore feel tired with people who think enmanator always become stronger character after Aeon. Like you say is complicated, i mean what the hell people think a worm was stronger than Jing yuan
They do,how many times the game needs to say that? You get more power than others and you are weaker than they?makes no sense.you are Just Seeing It as if it were a normal worm but they are not.Emanators are not invencible but the weakest emanator would still beat the strongest pathstrider in a 1v1
@rickelmehanwinckel2699 if you watch the video he literally say that worm as enmanator just have brain to think not have some super power. That mean no not all enmanator is really strong
@sandli7269 my other question was can an aeon be an emanator of another aeon? my reason is that propagation and abundance are similar to each other in their dictionary, because propagation is creating a lot or promoting a lot of one thing and abundace is having a lot of one thing
@sandli7269 i think that only counts for pathstriders because iirc youre leeching off the aeon for that extra power so if the source of that power vanishes obv that power will too
@@Twin227 in my opinion the answer is no because if yaoshi is given tazzyronths blessing then yk thats the power of 2 paths which would count as yaoshi straying from the abundance and falling onto the path of the propogation so basically yaoshi would cease to exist
@@lynxenzyeah true, because I think boothill say that aeons can never stray from their path even if it leads to a dead end sort of like they are bound to the path willingly or not and in my own head cannon who they once were as an individual no longer exist can will have to do what Their path dictates
Technically... Acheron can one shot belobog, luofu, penacony (including dreamscape) and Amphoreus... If she uses her full power.... If that the case, MC is also the Emanator of Multiple Aeons since MC got blessed by Nannok, Qlipoth, and Xipe.... Maybe also got blessed from Akivili...
No, because the TB was never really blessed by any paths because, remember, a gaze ≠ a blessing ≠ being made an emanator. The only one who really blessed them was the preservation because we got the lance from qlipoth. But in every other case, we only got NOTICED, never blessed.
@vietcuongnguyenle8530 no, the trailblazer CAN become an emanator. it's entirely possible. the only things stopping them are the devs for obvious reasons
@@lynxenz akivili not exist to make him become emanator And he already is pathstrider of traiblaze so he can’t be emanator of any other path He will stay as a pathstrider until he become aeon if that is what the stellaron hunter want
@vietcuongnguyenle8530 you dont HAVE to follow a certain path to become an emanator. Aha sometimes makes the mourning actors (those who hate the elation) into their emanators so aeons can technically make anyone into an emanator they just choose to only pick those who follow their own path
I don’t think this is entirely true, as Lan does not directly choose who the next Arbiter-General is. The predecessors choose who to pass the spirits onto. Emanators are granted direct access to an Aeon’s path, and Arbiter-Generals do not gain power directly from Lan, but rather through the spirits. The spirits are the blessings, or emanators of Lan. Here’s a more succinct summary I found online: “Because they are not Emanators as far as we can tell, or at least the position of Arbiter-General does not automatically confer the position of Emanator of the Hunt. An Emanator is a being who is granted by the Aeon direct access to the Aeon's Path, allowing them to draw upon it for power. They do not gain power from the Aeon directly. - Data Bank (Terms) So Emanators are beings which can directly draw upon the power of a Path due to the corresponding Aeon's influence. In fact, you do not even have to be a Pathstrider of a Path to become its Emanator, we have Aha to thank for this fact with THEM granting access to the entire Path of Elation to a Noblesse Worm (typically used for recycling trash). The Arbiter-Generals of the Xianzhou are not granted this access to the Path of the Hunt by Lan by virtue of their position, what they are given is a blessing in the form of the spirits by their predecessors. Lan does not pick the Arbiter-Generals. Only in the fleeting moment right before death, when all things appear frozen in time, can the eyes of mortal humans behold the falling forms of these spiritual feathers. Flying Aureus, Spiritus - its speed is the greatest out of the seven forms of the Reignbow's manifestation. "I spent a dozen days and nights to hunt it, only to discover it has always been inside my body." - Auspice Silver We have further confirmation from the Echo of War material from Shadow of "Feixiao". The spirits of the Arbiter-Generals are directly confirmed to be manifestations of the Reignbow, Lan the Hunt. It is the spirits that are Emanators, not the Arbiter-Generals themselves. The Arbiter-Generals can use the spirits for power, but they cannot draw upon the Path of the Hunt directly like an Emanator of the Hunt would be able to. In fact, the spirits count more as blessings of Lan. An Aeon can grant a blessing to anyone; examples are Yaoshi's blessing of longevity / mara which can be passed on (not all Denizens of Abundance nor all Xianzhou natives are Emanators of Abundance) or Nous' blessing of the third eye to Fu Xuan (she was granted this directly as a blessing for solving one of THEIR puzzles).”
Yeah, no. What itachi said is correct. The Generals are not Emanators; the spirits they control are, for example the Lightning Lord. These spirits have been passed down through generations to each General; they are not the Generals' own power. The only General we can possibly argue is an Emanator at this point is Feixiao since she is the only one who has received an Aeon's gaze, but I could be wrong but even she said she didn't gain anything from it.
The only reason why its complicated and more than what it seems is because people are making it so. Literally its just people who receive the blessings of an aeon. Thats it. Everything else is special sauce people has beeing cooking up.
so hsr just establishes lore rules as to how magical objects such as fu xuans eye come to be, so that it eventually is no longer a mystery, unlike in our world how we have all these ancients texts, but on magic items and even if we did we wouldn't know which god had a son who gave us the magical item that gives someone powers, see what i did there
i guess? feixiao is also one if he is. black swan did say the xianzhou generals are emanators, but that would also mean the sunday boss was an emanator of harmony..? order? idk, but is he still an emanator??
Eh... Fu Xuan follows path of Erudition. Or at least Xianshou ship Yuque she is from follows "Wisdom Walker" which is Xianzhou name for Nous. On that matter Xianzhou Fanghu follows Long the Permanence. To sum it up, being part of Xianzhou Alliance doesn't make you follower of the Hunt. That's just their unifying policy. And it also should be mentioned that even if you are part of faction that follow certain Aeon, it doesn't mean all individuals of that faction do.
Well yes, following a path is like a religion. Maybe your country is mostly this religion but that doesnt stop you from turning to another religion instead
"Emanators are bormally much more powerful than pathstriders, but that's not always the case" the case: (Aha the Elation canonically made a fucking WORM an emanator? hello?? bro was probably just squirming through dirt and died soon after, did he get a tiny mask?? could he morph into a human???) oops I wrote this before finishing the video
Just a question and a comment 1. So do you think Aventurine is an emanator or not, you keep calling him a pseudo-emanator yet you also claim he's a "double emanator" despite not being an emanator at all Edit: I am not asking anyone other than Nova what they think about Aventurines status, I do not think Aventurine is an emanator 2. The wiki does say that the Xianzhou Generals are speculated emanators, BUT they are confirmed atp the wiki just hasn't updated that; if you are curious as to how the emanator page should have all the sources
@@chachaanande7148 Its only a theory that Gaiathra is Ena and him being "diamonds emanator" isnt the same as diamond being the emanator of preservation The point I was trying to make is why he says aventurine both is and isnt an emanator, I just wanted to understand what hes thinking
When did that happen? She's just a strong Pathstrider. Also, the event isn't canon. Only her main story appearance is canon. Also, ver 8.0 just confirmed that when Kiana met with the Memokeeper, she had lost the majority of her authority within a dream. Meaning a sleeping Kiana with a small fraction of her Finality authority created waves like an Emanator.
Jing yuan are confirmed to be emanator based on Black swan tertimony about jing yuan and sunday clash as clash between emanators. Also yes that black swan is real black swan considering she was the same one who guide MC to wake up from order dream.
No. I've mentioned in another video that Black Swan didn't mention anything about Jing Yuan and Sunday's clash. I rewatched the whole of the fake ending parts of 2.2. She only said Emanator in reference to Acheron revealing her identity and did not mention either of Jing Yuan or Sunday at all. And Black Swan was only able to guide us because of us giving her the Light Cone back during the fake ending, which is how she realized it was all fake due to seeing Misha in "reality." If she did say stuff about them being Emanators, I would love for you to point out when. Plus, the Emanator on the Sunday side is not Sunday; it's the Dominicus/Harmonious Choir.
@XenoWars and what you wrote in previous video didn't make any sense. Why? Because Acheron didn't exist in order dream. Boothill didn't know her and even failed to remember her so does dan heng and entire cast including welt to Black Swan treat Acheron as she wasn't there until black Swan recollect her empty light cone.
@@RePhantomz No, what you are writing isn't making sense. They do all remember her after they break out of the dream. If they didn't, they would not have went and said goodbye to her before leaving, which was also her only appearance in 2.3 as it is. Acheron to Black Swan while on the Express: "Because of the Nihility, I'm rarely affected by the power of other Paths, but somehow I can unconsciously infiltrate them... Maybe that's the "risk" they're trying to avoid."
@@XenoWars Irrelevant that they remember later since they remember it on ena dream not Sunday order dream. You got confused by how the Order dream created by sunday aka fake ending dream and Ena limbo dream are different. All right then let me explain. Sunday Order dream are created and modified by sunday to trap MC by siphoning Ena dream to manifest sunday version of the dream into reality. In this dream Acheron not exist. To quote black swan this dream is not perfect. AND the clash between Emanators are mentioned here. The Ena Dream are not controlled by sunday. This is the first dreamscape we dive into before entering penacony and acheron did exist here. Unfortunately for you the clash between emanator are not mentioned here. TLDR they remember it because they got away from Sunday order dream. But unfortunately for you the clash between emanator are not mentioned in Ena dream but in Sunday dream where acheron did not exist.
@@RePhantomz People only ever mentioned the fake ending, but never said exactly where. I only went and looked at her Light Cone explanation because that was the most obvious part. And you still didn't mention where it was. I had to look through vods again to try and find it. It is directly after the fight. However, one flaw with your belief that the dreams are different is Misha. Him being present in the Reverie was what Black Swan saw to clue in on you would call Sunday's Order dream is fake. But he was there for the dream as a whole. And you can't say "well we were playing Sunday's dream all along" when Acheron is in it. The fact that Misha was there and is what made Black Swan realize it was fake proves you wrong. Because the part after the Sunday fight is from the TB's perspective, they would not know who Boothill and Black Swan were pursuing, so they wouldn't be able to fill in the gap on who they'd be talking about. That is why Boothill and Dan Heng do not remember Acheron in that scene. They did know about Boothill, though, which is why he is there. Remember that everyone experienced different dreams from Sunday; it wasn't all the same dream, and also that Sunday was also a victim of Ena's Dream. As for the Emanator clash, that doesn't prove anything. Firstly, Dominicus/Harmonious Choir is the Emanator on the opposing side, not Sunday. Secondly, she could have been talking about the Lightning Lord, not Jing Yuan. And thirdly, she said "Emanators" in quotes at this point, when she doesn't do so when referring to Acheron. That part is what should clue people in on the fact that neither of the two are Emanators but are just using powers of Emanators to fight.
The herta is my favorite character I can’t believe she can just talk to aeons like they’re best friends
I don't think they talked like best friends, maybe the aeon wanted something from Herta in return.
When you talk to your friend, do you ask them, "I ask you, what is divinity" or like this "Yo Man, do you know you know what in the scallop is divinity?" It is all a joke, don't take my reply seriously
@@muhdazhad04I agree to some extent, Herta knows the importance of nous but that doesn't mean she feels that he is unreachable, especially since she herself is an emanator, that would mean that Nous sees Herta as worthy of his presence
Not really that impressive when you remember that akvili used to exist
Nous lets new members ask them one question when they join the Genius Society
Guys... She legit just got gazed AGAIN
She isn't holding an audience, she just did something that caught his attention
This is her 4TH gaze from Nous btw
6:59 if anyone here hasn't grasped how strong and dangerous that damn tree is, let me remind you: "revive" here didn't mean making it habitable again, Ruan Mei could do it just fine. Oh no no... Mf straight up turned that thing into a huge living creature
So was this related to how firefly destroyed the whole planet in her animated short?
@@Certifiedprecog27809not in the slightest, Firefly was fighting against the swarm.
@@ClownDollThatHasContemptForYou not about that, i was asking if that tree in firefly trailer have something to do with abundance and its emanators. Something like a blessing from abundance
That planet then proceeded to eat an entire xianzhou ship. And I don't mean the small ones, I mean an entire fleet (basically the equivalent of eating the entirety of the Luofu)
Imagine following the destruction just to be blessed with the preservation 😂😂😂
Some shit that aha would pull
I have a few objections to nature of Emanators.
For one, Acheron and her entirety is not an outlier. We know that people can be Emanators against their will or even hate their Aeon. Once more Aha is there to show us this as not only do they randomly choose someone but at times Aha will purposely pick someone from the Mourning Actors, who actually hate Aha and abstain, just for the laughs. The only reason Acheron looks like the odd one out is because of IX themselves and what we perceive as their nature not allowing them to even contemplate looking at a mortal to give them Emanator status. If we take the view that IX doesn't care about anything, then Acheron is only an Emanator because she's the only Pathstrider of Nihility or Self-Annihilator that was able to keep hold of herself despite diving so deep into IX's shadow.
Secondly being an Emanator can grant a person new power or abilities. I doubt Shuhu, being a tree as you say, would be able to revive or heal anything without the Abundance let alone a planet (Ruan Mei can do it through science so unless Shuhu was like Groot and could move about freely...), Acheron wouldn't be able to passively negate the effects of other Path's powers like Ena's Dream, Finalities' prophecies wouldn't be seen, and Aventurine wouldn't have such a transformation or be able to survive a direct hit from Nihility's power. You do get power, it's just usually the power is inline with a person's preexisting abilities to augment them. This is of course at the discretion of the Aeon but we can not discount the fact that you get potent powers inline with the Aeon's Path.
You're not wrong, but one could interpret what Nova said in a way that alligns with you. For example, Acheron is an outliner? Well, not in the lore. But among the playable characters, or among any characters who we actually know by name, then she very much is.
Also, I didn't interpret what Nova said as "Emanators dno't give power". Sure they can, but I think the point was that is MAY NOT be a power, and even if it is, it needs to be usable in a way. A tree has roots which can take and spread sustenance from and to the land, so it makes sense that it can spread a resurrection spell. But what if the tree got super intelligence instead? What could it do? It's a tree, it can't move, talk, or convey ideas and concepts. An intelligent tree would be as useful as a regular tree. And even if a normal human got super intelligence, that doesn't mean they would be given powers of the magical brute force kind. A super intelligent emanator could still suck in combat, even if they are directly souped up by an aeon. I think that's what he was trying to say - being an emanator doesn't necessarily translates into kick-assery potential - even though most of the time it does.
@@SirZelean essentially, the aeons give power, but its not always physical power.
like nous didnt bless herta with the ability to suplex a moon, they made her an even bigger nerd than she already was
Acheron power being this strong could help aswell cause the dream master did say something about her power being like a gift from the shapeless and being fathomless and stuff
basically we dont know how strong she is cause we dont know what IX does other than nothing
Acheron did say thay she can cleanse the Harmony's curse that Sunday placed on Aventurine so i think she can, to an extent, sort of "overpower" the effect of another path/eminator
I’m glad you made this video because so many people were trying to shoot down your explanations when you specify it every episode. Hopefully everyone actually listened to what you said this time. Great video as always and great work.
Or were we?
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Yea we need new term for:
• When an Aeon give a blessing to mortal
• When an Emanator give a blessing to mortal
But what's curious to me, can there be an Emanator got access to more than 1 Aeons powers?
I don't think the Aeons share Emanators specifically but if it's just 1 Emanator getting the power of a second path no matter the means we already have the example of Phantylia who gets her power from the Destruction but was able to use the Abundance's power through the Arbor to craft herself a body and gain some power from the Abundance.
@blackmark2899 Yea it's like the tree is a blessing from the Aeon to Phantylia.
Fu Xuan also has the same case except she isn't an Emanator before Nous gave her a blessing.
Ok so from what I've gathered, you can only be an emanator from one path and one path only, but that wouldn't exclude you from receiving a blessing from another path.
I see It as, an emanator borrows the powers from an aeon, while a blessing is just a present the aeon gives to a mortal.
@@jp-dx6829 yep. The difference between Emanator and "Blessed ones" is that blessed creatures cannot draw power directly from the Aeon like Emanator.
@@jp-dx6829not necessarly but it’s highly unlikely to be an emanator of two path.It’s like being both the best basketball and football player.
Theorically it shouldn’t be impossible but in practice it’s very unlikely to happen.
In Fu Xuan's case, i see it being the same as Jing Yuan. We can say that Jing Yuan is an emanator but isn't at the same time. Because the Lightning Lord is the "real" emanator there, and it is passed down from General to General in the Luofu but, without the current general to utilize its power, Lightning Lord wouldn't do anything. The same with Fu, she is kind of an temporary emanator, harnessing power from the stone in her forehead... Now that i wrote this, this is similar to the 10 Stonehearts too.
I feel like the Arbiter Generals could be interpreted as emanators or pseudo-emanators depending how you choose to look at it. They indeed were granted power by an Aeon itself. However some may look at it as, the power was given in the form of their spirit warriors, and they are harnessing that power indirectly. I lean towards the former tho, since the spirit warriors are a form of power itself which the Generals have control of. Plus Feixiao basically slapped Hoolay with a miniature Lux Arrow that she was able to summon herself.
Great video!
Only nitpick is that IX wouldn't even say "it doesn't matter anyway" cuz its incapable of having angst 😂
what kind of powder they smoking tho?
(just joke btw)
We haven't actually seen Jing Yuan do anything without using the power of the Lightning Lord though. Yes, he would certainly be capable, but he can only go up against Phantylia because of the Lightning Lord. And Feixiao using a Lux Arrow type thing was only possible because she just received the gaze of Lan, but that was also a one-time thing.
@@ViatorFortis lol thx for pointing out the typo
@@XenoWars like I said I can see it either way, it's kind of down to headcanon beyond that imo, at least until we know more
It depends entirely on how you view the Spiritus that the Generals have. By the very definition of how they are defined, being powerful spirits bestowed upon a General by Lan, that would classify the Generals as Emanators because Nanook does the same with the Lord Ravagers, the generals of his Anti-Matter Legion. Also because this isn't just them using it as like a mech like Sunday did the Choir, those spirits are connected directly to the Generals. Otherwise when the Flying Aureus consumed the Crimson Moon, it should not have affected Feixiao. But it acted as if she directed consumed it so if that spirit's directly connected to her then the others would be the same because they are classified as the same kind of thing.
But I can see how people would think that the Spirits are the Emanators and are used like weapons for the Generals. It also doesn't help that every time they talk about the Generals in relation to another known Emanator, they don't directly address the Generals as Emanators, only vaguely hint at it. Which doesn't help.
That KSI reference almost had me muting the video by instinct
I nearly thought he had a *seizure* when he started talking *gibberish....*
@damien9683
Well, we can note down Nova Impact saying those lyrics to the list of many things happening before GTA-VI
from what I understood xianzhou generals are somewhat like the heartstones, so they all are pseudo-emanators, apart from the ones who grant them their powers like lighting lord for jing yuan
If I am not mistaken jing Yuan's predecessors also prosses Lightning Lord also right
The lighting lord is a Power of The general not a JY Power He is a blessing From Lan
Isnt it mentioned in the game that Acheron killing IX is an act of Nihility by itself? so even if she's against IX, she's ironically the perfect embodiment of nihility? doesnt that make it so shes still a follower of nihility? iirc thats a paradox that they showed in the game. tho the term 'follower' is loose here since its not done willingly
Easily answered with the existence of Mourning Actors and The Cremators.
The noblesse worm was granted fathomless intelligence, surprised it hasn't killed itself yet
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The guy is secretely Owlbert AND has been given enhanced humour by Aha?!
6:46 REALEST LINE FRFR
It would be so funny if March 7th is the Emanator of Remembrance that was exiled from Amphorius and Black Swan is luring us there becuse Amphorius is needing her Emanator back to fight some threat still unknown...
6:46 from the screen to the ring to the pen to the king wheres my crown that my bling theres always drama when i ring
I was a firm believer that the Xianzhou generals are emanator of the Hunt, but now i still think that they are (but different)
If we believe the Xianzhou legend, that lan rises to aeonhood from a Xianzhou soldier that really despise abundance, so we can speculate that Lan (maybe) still thinks like a soldier. In military everything is hierarchical, so i think the true emanator of Hunt wouldn't be as many as the number of general. I think only the Admiral is the true emanator, but every Xianzhou general gets 2 type of power 1) the title blessing from the Admiral admittance, this makes them a pseudo-emanator 2) Lan themselves give each general a blessing in form of fighting spirit (lightning lord, flying aureus)
Tldr. Xianzhou Generals are above pseudo-emanator but below true emanator, probably as the same level as true emanator of non-combatant aeons like erudition, harmony, or enigmata
Theres no path that IS not combat oriented,you get Power from it
@@rickelmehanwinckel2699 i even mentioned an example in my sentence above. Erudition as an example, Nous gives power to their emanator not for combat, Nous gives knowledge. Yes those knowledge can also be used for combat but it is not the main objective
If you're an emanator of a CHEF, he would've given you a frying pan for cooking. And of course that frying pan can kill someone but is it its main purpose?
Probably is important to note that having an Emanator item (is what I like to call them) doesn't necessarily mean you can use it nor does losing your item mean you can't use its power. Like when Sunday took Topaz's and Jade's Corner Stones, he probably wouldn't be able to use the Preservation's power cause he wasn't gifted them by Diamond who is the original owner. Meanwhile despite Jade most likely being a few planetary systems away from hers could fully utilize its power before even reaching Penacony.
I really hope 3.0 and the new world Amphoreus gives us more clues onto Aeons and Emanators, with The Herta going into more depth and possibly finding something.
This suggests … no in fact, with how much sense this analysis of yours makes, this confirms something rather terrifying about Emanators of Propagation, Emanators of the Swarm.
In Skarabaz’z drop material, it immediately tells us that this Emanator was personally created by Tayzzyronth, this fact being combined with your analysis confirms that EVERY TIME Tayzzyronth wanted an Emanator, THEY didn’t pick an insect from the Swarm, THEY personally saw to it, that THEY created an Emanator they way THEY wanted that Emanator. These Emanators were legitimately created to be an Emanator. (Feels a bit similar to Firefly’s story, ironically enough)
So … what about Emanators of Fallen Aeons? Tayzzyronth has already been covered.
Emanators of Order would’ve lost their Emanator-hood the second Ena was assimilated into Xipe, and we know there are only 4 “Harmonic Strings/Emanators” of Harmony which really challenges the possibility of Emanators of Order still existing.
As for Permanence and Voracity, we don’t know enough about these two Aeons, and even less about THEIR Emanators. If I was to throw out a somewhat sensible assumption about Permanence, I wonder if the Propagation’s ability to self replicate its own Emanators was something it took from Permanence, which would suggest that Emanators of Permanence were originally created by Long THEMSELF, until Propagation came along, and now Long is missing so there shouldn’t be any Emanators of Permanence younger than Tayzzyronth. Oroboros is heavily tied to Leviathans, so there’s a chance that Leviathans have some amount of Oroboros’s blessing of Voracity, with so much info about Oroboros unknown, I cannot even begin to imagine how an Emanator of Voracity would even exist.
Emanators of Trailblaze interest me greatly, due to Akivili’s closeness to Humanity, and traveling alongside the Astral Crew, Akivili was always helping the Crew in any situation they found themselves in. Akivili’s blessing is the Express, by the power of an Aeon, these followers can travel the cosmos. Interestingly enough, we’ve seen three individuals involved in the Express’s building structure, Himeko who repaired the Express, Ratio who made plans to turn the Express into some type of weapon-wielding Express, and Pom-Pom who seems to be the one responsible for activating the Express’s Lightspeed Travel. Himeko has amazing potential as an Emanator-worthy individual, since she feels like even she’ll live on the Express even beyond Pom-Pom, and has been hinted towards having some kind of pseudo-conversation with Akivili THEMSELF? Then we have Pom-Pom who … probably is an Emanator, since they appeared the second that the Express was repaired, and they were the one who first felt the presence of a MEMOKEEPER!!! Memetic entities whose entire existence is meant to be entirely imperceivable unless they want to be perceived!!
Finally, we have Idrila the Beauty. Idrila’s blessings are widely spread and … extremely incredible from what we’ve heard so far. Shards of Mirrors who can literally reshape everything into whatever the individual believes is Beautiful. And then we have the Knights of Beauty whose faith in Idrila is a blessing of Beauty itself, since we have stories from Argenti where we hear about a Knight of Beauty transforming into a monstrous being because of the Path of Beauty. So, Idrila feels a little similar to IX, instead the opposite. Where IX doesn’t care about anyone using THEIR blessing, Idrila cares so much about everything, that everything CAN use THEIR Blessing if they so truly desired to.
As for what Divinity is … well, Aeons have a rather unique thing about THEM that is very interesting. They are made out of the Imaginary Type, so, Divinity has some connection to Imaginary Type … so where does the Imaginary Type originate from? What exactly are these Types, and what determines an individual’s Type? Why does Dan Heng IL use Imaginary, while Bailu use Lightning? Why does Jingliu and Yanqing use Ice? Why does Welt, March, and Harmony Trailblaze use Imaginary? Why is Acheron a Lightning Type? Not all of these Types are too difficult to find out, Physical Type is rather self explanatory in many cases, if not all.
I think it’d be cool if you over analyzed some of the characters designs as well, how it relates to their story, character, the quests and so on. Just for fun maybe since you blew my mind with the Kakavasha and Gia-thra-tri-cops relation.
I noticed that Sunday’s pupils were grey in the beginning in the penacony quest, but now it’s blue since his character release. I’m not sure if it’s related to the Order or something though or when that change was made.
The Emanators are somehow connected to 1.0 Trace Mats from Crimson Calyx
Obsidian of Dread/Desolation/Obsession being Dark Matter from Void
Acheron with Black holes
Key of Inspiration/Knowledge/Wisdom that's in the hands of Scholars/Sages/Prodigies
THErta with Keys
Idk if this counts but
Harmonic Tune/Ancestral Hymn/Stellaris Symphony
That could be referring to Dominicus (Sunday Boss)
How interesting, it works almost too similar to herrschers in Hi3
My question is. Is the Trailblazer an Emanator, because they received the Gaze of an Aeon? Whenever an Aeon gazes at a mortal it receives a portion of that Aeon's power, the very Definition of an Emanator. So is the Trailblazer an Emanator.
no, trailblazer isn't, getting recognized is not enough
Becoming an emanator grants you access to higher authority/power within the path. Being 'gazed' by them only allowed TB to use the power of the path in general(similar to ordinary Pathstriders) except TB is collecting them like Pokemons.
@@minhtranquoc01yeah, getting recognized only allowed TB to gain access to the path's power. It's stated that emanators have direct access to the authority of the path itself similar to an aeon but on a smaller level.
Aeons granted blessings to us, some direct like Qlipoth and Xipe did it indirectly.
Whereas you have to be APPOINTED by the Aeons themselves to enact their will - basically become their Apostles.
Like Dominicus is an Emanator of Xipe but they can also be summoned by people affiliated with Harmony or adjacent paths (i.e. Order).
I bet they're going to become an Emenator of Trailblazing.
I think that in terms of the discussion of Acheron v. Herta and how Herta would be weaker strength-wise due to Nous being an intellect-focused Aeon, it's a little misleading. Sure, in terms of brute strength Acheron is definitely at an advantage due to her impressive bladeworks, but at the same time Herta's deep understanding of the universe has allowed her to decipher and use some form of actual, tangible magic (at least by Star Rail's terms).
So in a situation of their power scaling relative to one another, I think it's less like a Samurai vs a Chess Grandmaster and more like a Samurai vs a Wizard.
I mean, it's the same old question of whether someone who threatened to destroy Penacony, defeated one of the Ten Stonehearts who - if you saw the fight - had a cracked/fragmented Stoneheart, and had almost all access to IX's power be comparable to someone not even the IPC would dare cross blades with, being directly avoided confrontation by the Stellaron Hunters, and had research buddies who casually created an Emanator of Propagation which is wayyy wayyy stronger than Acheron due to Inheriting Tayzzyronth's mandibles and had a Planet Screwllum literally about to go to war with Penaconians had they refused to let him see his friend would be.... ridiculous of a comparison.
The Herta has the Simulated Universe - meaning she'd know pretty much almost everything she'll need to know about researching Aeons, including Acheron's. Curious that are capable of destroying Planets and even with the Unknowable Domain's Scepters - which should also be in The Herta's arsenal and had originated from Rupert II which is a bigger of a threat to Acheron only puts the disparity of powers between the two.
You could flaunt your strength all you want, but against an entire fleet of Herta Puppets, Curious, Scepters, and who knows what more she could pull shit outta her ass in Amphoreus, you really a time-stopping blade of nothingness can do much?
@@backbackback9845 I definitely agree, I think that Acheron's abilities so far have been largely blown out of proportion and at a similar level to other major characters we have witnessed using powers inherited from their Path (Jing Yuan, Dan Heng, Aventurine).
Her feats are impressive especially on her home planet, but I think it's just for the lack of understanding just how much is out there in terms of power in the universe. I definitely think Herta is likely more powerful than Acheron and by a big margin too because in clashes of power strategy is what's always wins out, and it's undeniable that Herta would be infinitely more intelligent and cunning than her.
I hope that we get to see more confirmed Emanators in action soon, or more Pseudo-Emanators like Aventurine when he took on the Stratagems form.
@@marihuanosswagherta is like batman
In term of raw power herta may weaker than acheron
But if she want to defeat or kill acheron,she will know how to do it
@@marihuanosswag I just like to imagine the character's reaction of The Herta finally showing herself after probably a long long time since the story began. Like, sure Acheron uses her Sword sparingly even though we've seen it around 5 times (the one with Inferno Duke, then Tiernan, then Sparkle's bout, then Aventurine, then against Sunday). While this is literally our first time seeing Herta finally showing her true power, which - according to the leaks, is something she does kinda giga-casually.
Theres no path that cannot have raw Power focused abilities,of course paths that are focused on attack will look more destructive,but It doesn't make the others inofensive.its like saying that feixiao solos nous because they are Just smart
that definition makes all the Generals of the lofou Emanators because they received their spirits from lan.
i just want to know want kind of power Akivili could have granted
So... Basically... Just like how Honkai God gives Power to Herrschers...
A bit differient.
As When the cocoon create herrschers.. It also grants them authority.
It doesnt matter who wields that power.. The one who wields that power has that power..
All herrscher of the void have controll over Space even outside the universe (like the imaginary space outside the imaginary tree.. Iirc)
Meaning the power it gives are constant.. But.. On the other hand.. The type of power it can give is possibly endless.
It can be anything.. Wind, void, thunder, even consepts like sentience or Death..
And.. Every samsara it makes a new 12 consept for which herrschers have absolute power upon(based on skill and.. How much energy they have).
That is why the Cocoon is considered Nigh-Omnipotent at the least.
Bc its powers are basically all encompassing as we know it..
As.. Every 50k year samsara it makes new consepts to embody the herrschers.. And all these herrscher powers are merely shadows.. Of the herrscher of finality's power.
Meaning Finality has the ability of all herrschers ever created and can create more...
Meaning finality can.. Do whatever she needs to do.
Alot of people say the herrscher of death doesnt really preside over death..
But.. Thats not entirely true.
It merely cannot revive a person that has lived bc their sentience(soul)desolve too fast it can create a new existence with sentience tho..
Just as Sirin did.
It wasny her mother.. But it was alive. (Also herrscher of death is a human given name.. We dint know its true authority).
Seele was also able to revive people easily when their soul was intact.
The cocoon is soo extremely diverse in its abilities and powers that it is a very strange being.. Older than most Aeons and possibly one of the oldrst beings in the universe..
And i am almost sure that it was created outside the Imaginary tree.. As the authority of finality that transcends all dimensions can not be created in the imaginary tree aka universe that is made of dimentions.
Thats like trying to fit a 10cm box inside a 3cm box.
Its not possible for a being that transcend dimensions to be created in a universe with dimensions.
Alot of people think its an Eminator or possibly even is the Aeon of Finality.
But it is not possible in my opinion.
Bc.. The powers it contains is wayy to diverse and all encompassing to ever be an Aeon or belong to an aeon.
Its an entirely different type of existance.
We dont know its true name.. Or what the Herrscher of finality actually is..
Theyre just human given names.. So that we can understand them.
The herscherr of finality is called as such.. Bc she brings finality and is the final herrscher.. Thats all.
And the cocoon us called the cocoon of finality bc it is a cocoon from which the herrscher of finality emerges.
We dont actually know what theu truely are.
@@BlueCHMA Great... Honkai God decided to be lazy and started using "Auto Mode" via Cocoon(s) of Finality...
Makes me wonder how Honkai God would react to what HI3rd Otto Apocalypse did with making more Branches in the Imaginary Tree...
Possible Storyline for Honkai Impact 3rd Part 3...?
HI3rd Earth captures the Gaze of Honkai God...
Last time such a thing happened... GGZ Earth got Erased by the Hands of Honkai God...
@@jasperreyes5174 i.. Dont think there is a Honkai god in this universe.
Alot of GGZ expert says that GGZ is an entirely seperate thing.. And that GGZ doesnt take place in the imaginary tree.. There is no imaginary tree mention in GGZ..
And Outer gods are more like story mentions.. And doesnt actually appear ig.
In HI3.. Honkai as the people of earth experience it is just Imaginary energy under the influence of the cocoon of Finality.
Honkai beast.. And all other shiz are just done by the cocoon.
The Cocoon is basically the Honkai god in HI3.
Through otto we also know that it can manipulate the imaginary tree to quite an extend..
As with Otto's false god authority he could create a new world with infinite possible branches.
@@BlueCHMA We'll see what miHoYo does with Dreamseeker...
There is that one story about the Tree that sprouts from the corpse of the God Zeus that has "Life" and "Worlds" within it's "Leaves"... But as you say... That's one of the Outer God Stories...
I still think GGZ is part of the Greater HoYoVerse...
Fu Xuan: follows the Hunt but draws from the Preservation while being given an artifact to wield from the Erudition... 😅😮
I learned a lot. Thought not officially it is a nice theory.
Though you forgot the mc using different type of weapon making them pseudo-emenator
honestly i could be wrong but conserning the generals in my opinion in the hoolay fight when Feixiao basically faces her moon rage i think that cutscene is of Lan blessing her directly making her a Emanator but for Jing Yuan the lightning lord is a power originally held by Teng Xiao so i think thats a case of what you stated as a Pseudo-emenator where Teng Xiao is passing-on/lending that power to the next general as for the other generals idk cause ive honestly not even looked at them but like i said it might be wrong but this is my opinion on the 2 main known generals
The question one needs to ask about emanators: How does one log a cycle; rotating around and around again? Thus, the key to understanding emanations is comprehending action values (AV) as they can be converted to fractions of 2pi radians (complete cycle). For example, a 100% AV boost from Sunday is equivalent to multiplying a number by 2ipi where i represents the square root of -1. Sunday advances this character into the next branch cut and logging this exponential transition produces multiple values (2ipi, 4ipi, 6ipi) separated by 100% AV branches. Like how complex numbers are part imaginary and part real, HSR’s lore is part narrative and part gameplay. One can not fully understand the lore without considering both narrative and gameplay.
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IX prolly has memory loss and totally forgot about his emenator just walking around the universe
As soon as you said an Emenator giving their power to an another person the thing that first came to my mind was the 10 stonehearts.
To be extremely frank with you author, your explanation is quite intriguing! And very well explained! May the mysteries are still present in HSR, but developers slowly adding new facts and lore with next patch. And who knows, maybe someday, we'll learn more than what we know today))) you deserve like! 👍
Divinity refers to the state of being divine or godlike. It encompasses several concepts across different contexts
I used to think trailblazer was an emanator of preservation but with the definitions provided they're a pseudo emanator
If thats the case doesn't that mean if they interfere in hi3 kiana can easily drive off these emanator since kiana is a true Herrscher btw someone said aeon is the creator of law and law it self similar different to herrscher where's they can only manipulate the laws or break itself they even theory that cocoon of finality is on hsr but as a aeon of finality
I will say that if we meet the emanator of elution i think is power will be really chaotic just like the Aeon having a chaotic mind
6:46 GOOD ONE😂
its crazy we worship emanators and certain ice harmony is almost a fucking aeon…
Orion's arm Project Archailects sound similar to Aeons from HSR.
Enema - inator
I see a lot of people wrongly connecting the gameplay paths to the lore paths, but in most cases, they’re not the same. Gameplay paths are more like classes or jobs, while lore paths are more about the faction they follow.
One fun fact I like is that Rappa’s gameplay path is Erudition, even though she follows the Hunt in the lore. Technically, though, she’s Erudition in the lore as well.
I have a strange idea. What if an aeon directly blesses another Aeon, thus that secondary Aeon becomes an emanator of the primary Aeon. For example, Fuli’s pursuit of memories and rememberance is critical for comprehending cognition as memories are a function of the hippocampus and part of the brain. So, if Fuli is unraveling the mysteries of the brain through exploring the hippocampus region, Nous might be interested in Fuli’s pursuit and make Fuli an emanator of Erudition. This would grant Fuli access to both rememberance and erudition and consequently emanators of Rememberance would become pseudoemanators of Erudition due to derived power.
Well, in my opinion, if this happened, fuli having access to the path of erudition would be considered as straying from the path of rememberance since yk thats another path and therefore fuli would cease to exist
Xianzhou generals probably are not emanators because things like lightning lord and feixiao’s fox spirit seems to be artifacts of some sorts But marshall fu hua probably is an emanator
Oh, I like the term pseudo emanator. I think that Sparkle is like that, as are the others from Maskfool who have a mask. That's why Sampo was so keen on getting his back. By the way, Sampo's character is mega interesting considering the fact that he's from Belobog. And he knows a lot more about the world than, for example, Gepard, who had no idea about the existence of other Aeons before he met Astral Express.
I've always assumed that few characters have any kind of power beyond humans unless they come from a specific race related to it (Dan Heng, Sunday, Robin). For others, only their powers are shown for gameplay purposes (Qingque), or maybe they use weapons or magical items or use some technique (Fu Xuan - divination). For me, Emanator was a description of characters who can draw a lot of power from "nothing" beyond their natural capabilities.
Sampo is not from belobog
6:40 no.... NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I think that if the generals were emanators it would have been said in the Luofu arc and since that wasn't said and that JY almost died to Phntilya who wasn't even in his real body and still had the astral express with Dan Heng and Welt if I'm not mistaken (Trailblazer and march isn't to powerfull to make difarence)
Then what does that make the Trailblazer then since their body was changed by an Aeon. 🤔
The trailblazer is a pathstrider
Or rather, paths strider
TB is like a pokemon thats getting traded to other aeons
so what exactly does trailblazer fall under?
dunno, sounds pretty fair to me that the aeon that represents inexistence has an emanator who wants to end THEIR existence...
wait youre the one who keeps appearing in my YT Shorts-
deym, so if Fu Xuan succeeded Jing Yuan as General of Loufu, she'll have 2 Aeon blessings
3:36 so what if fu xuan swallows that third eye? 😃
You said a Worm cant do anything cause its still a worm... But.... The worm literally became massive AND almost destroyed the ecosystem of its planet iirc in the short amount of time it had
Theres also rumors of other animal type creatures that are also emanators btw
Well since the main character had been gazed at by the preservation in 1.0 does that make them an emanator of preservation? We havent had any other Aeon gaze at us if im correct and harmony is the power of the hat if I'm correct and destruction was our natural path since all things lead to destruction (see what I did there).
Hello? i have a question about gallagher is he an emanator due to him being a history fictionoligists? can someone answer this? pls
So, should an emanator's type (if they are playable) be the same with their aeon?
The scene of Feixiao being gazed on by Lan is soo annoying bc how could you not thing she became an Emanator in that moment especially if you aren’t someone who is super into the lore
You did not need to make a term for people who gained abilities through another means.
Fu isn't an emenator or even equivalent to one. The third eye only lets her process and perceive the most like outcome due to veritables known.
The ten stone hearts aren't emenators or the equivalent because its only a fraction of the power of Diamond they were given.
If you want a true example of a "Double" emenator or a person with power from more than one Aeon, look at trailblazer who even conformed by Sunday to receive the glace by Xipe. Meaning every time an Aeon pops up, the trailblazer was glanced upon. Feixiao became an emenator at the end of her 2.5 because of the same visual.
If anything, Fu and the Stone hearts are paths striders since they are drawing upon the power accessible to them. Fu is a follower of the hunt but a pathstrider of erudition that she uses for defensive purposes.
She follows the hunt, access the erudition, and prevents destruction like the preservation but also believes that once the future is predicted nothing can change it like Kafka... so also nihility.
As far as I'm aware, the only living emenator of the Xianzhou generals currently is Feixiao. Generals usually are granted items made through Lans arrows to assist them in combat. Like Jing yuan spear and Lightning lord is the spirit of an emenator.
So destruction's emanator are pseudo-emanator (because nanook is a emanator of finality 🙃) .
What?
Where saying nanook is emanator before is aeon ?
@vietcuongnguyenle8530 🙃🙂🙃🙂
I have a theory.. an opinion, per se, it is that Aeons that bless beings, enhancing their powers, also comes at a price.. or mayhe this only applies to IX, what do you guys think?
I think this only applies to IX since their whole path is about nothingness and making and essentially nullifying everything, so obviously, if you're "blessed" by the nihility, SOMETHING about you is gonna be nullified, the only other paths i see having a price are destruction and abundance, abundance just because of mara like maybe their emanator have to deal with mara on steroids and destruction because well obv but based on phantylia it doesnt seem to have any downsides
@@lynxenzphantylia isn’t have physic body and her mental work different than both mechanic and organic being
So if destruction have any negative effect, phantalya will be the one least aftected by it
so acheron is still the strongest character we know, Wowie
Playable character at least
Phainon is most likely as strong if not STRONKER, also Castorice has had but I don't know it that can be classified as strength... Now that I think of it why doesn't blade just go to Castorice or smth
She will most likely forever stay the most powerful character we've ever encountered. IX is by far one of the strongest Aeons out there after all and judging by Acheron's abilities to even manipulate time and space itself, she is clearly unbeatable.
Lord Ravagers are way Above Acheron it’s not even close but Playable character I thinks more reasonable but debatable due to Welt saying The Generals being Relative to the Lord Ravagers
@@Dank-Ewok Lord Ravengers do not even come close to Acherons. Haven't you seen what Acheron can do? She can manipulate time and space herself. Besides, Phantilya is restricted by the powers of the Aeon of Destruction while Acheron has like no visible limitation
IX is nihility and also nihilist. IX wants Acheron to destroy IX-self
Can u explain what Locha is then if I’m wrong ???
Luocha is not an emanator of Yaoshi, otherwise we would have a completely different story. Jing Yuan knows of his true identity
@@sakuseihuoshen True, however Jing Yuan never did disclosed Luocha's true identity status...
But isn’t Luocha blessed by the abundance
@Zion-l3z He is, but that alone does not explain what he is. As again, Jing Yuan never disclosed it for the players. For the time being, the most mysterious character in all of HSR is Luocha, Gallagher following close behind.
Ok so we don’t know is that right
Question about aha's fools, where did the masks come from, and do they make characters like sampo and sparkle be "pseudo-emanators?"
Masks are creation of aha themselfs
Divinity is the power granted from the universe not the aeons even if they are gods they are still surviving on divinity. Aeons are also like psuedo primordials not true primordials bur being who take over or a reflect the true primordial force. For example destruction already existed by Nanook became a aeon of destruction not the destruction itself, basically taking over the side of divinity or the primordial force.
There's also path that are actually force and not the aeon completely, if a aeon dies their doesn't disappers until you can somehow destroy it from the universe for example to remove the destruction you need to destory the primordial force or the energy of destruction that's in the universe not the aeon itself, if you can root out the energy or simply the existence of that context it won't exist
But does that mean every members of factions like the genius society or the memokeepers are emanators?
I'm hesitating on this because a lot of people are saying they're not all emanators but this definition would mean they are right ?
Idk maybe I just don't understand :')
There are only 2-3 emanators of Nous. Yes members of Genius Society were picked by Nous themselves, if I'm not wrong by glancing at them, let them see Nous. But it doesn't mean they're emanator. As for Memokeepers, it's not confirmed, just speculation based on what Welt said.
IMO, unless it's stated directly and explicitly like Acheron, Diamond, and Herta, everything (rating pistol, Generals and Memokeepers are emanators, etc) are just theories and speculation.
your hashtag misspelled #theherta
Bro this video explain the lore of not one but 2 games of hoyoverse (HI3 and HSR)
Especially the relationship between cocoon of finality to Kiana and Sa to Vita
Other people: I like herta, I always liked her, but never my fav, she’s rlly interesting now tho
Me: She’s always been my fav
We are not the same
Ok now compare emanators to herrschers, cause I'm still confused there. Since Welt Yang is in this game, so it's only a matter of time till one exists in honkai star rail as well.
I mean we now have both the garden of recollection and masked fools in honkai impact. There will be more bleed.
Good video! I as people who always follow honkai Lore feel tired with people who think enmanator always become stronger character after Aeon. Like you say is complicated, i mean what the hell people think a worm was stronger than Jing yuan
They do,how many times the game needs to say that? You get more power than others and you are weaker than they?makes no sense.you are Just Seeing It as if it were a normal worm but they are not.Emanators are not invencible but the weakest emanator would still beat the strongest pathstrider in a 1v1
@rickelmehanwinckel2699 if you really watch this video that worm can do nothing except just have brain to think. No shit that worm still do nothing
@rickelmehanwinckel2699 if you watch the video he literally say that worm as enmanator just have brain to think not have some super power. That mean no not all enmanator is really strong
Kiana finally proven stronger than Emenators, next up the Aeons
my question is what happens to emanators if their aeon falls while they remain what will happen to their blessing
Probably since their path still exist even after they die
@sandli7269 my other question was can an aeon be an emanator of another aeon? my reason is that propagation and abundance are similar to each other in their dictionary, because propagation is creating a lot or promoting a lot of one thing and abundace is having a lot of one thing
@sandli7269 i think that only counts for pathstriders because iirc youre leeching off the aeon for that extra power so if the source of that power vanishes obv that power will too
@@Twin227 in my opinion the answer is no because if yaoshi is given tazzyronths blessing then yk thats the power of 2 paths which would count as yaoshi straying from the abundance and falling onto the path of the propogation so basically yaoshi would cease to exist
@@lynxenzyeah true, because I think boothill say that aeons can never stray from their path even if it leads to a dead end sort of like they are bound to the path willingly or not and in my own head cannon who they once were as an individual no longer exist can will have to do what Their path dictates
Technically... Acheron can one shot belobog, luofu, penacony (including dreamscape) and Amphoreus...
If she uses her full power....
If that the case, MC is also the Emanator of Multiple Aeons since MC got blessed by Nannok, Qlipoth, and Xipe.... Maybe also got blessed from Akivili...
No, TB is not an emanator
No, because the TB was never really blessed by any paths because, remember, a gaze ≠ a blessing ≠ being made an emanator. The only one who really blessed them was the preservation because we got the lance from qlipoth. But in every other case, we only got NOTICED, never blessed.
She cannot
Can Traiblazer also became an Emanator as well in the future, if there is an Aeon took interest on them?
Well yes anyone and anything can become an emanator
@@lynxenz not sure about TB
@vietcuongnguyenle8530 no, the trailblazer CAN become an emanator. it's entirely possible. the only things stopping them are the devs for obvious reasons
@@lynxenz akivili not exist to make him become emanator
And he already is pathstrider of traiblaze so he can’t be emanator of any other path
He will stay as a pathstrider until he become aeon if that is what the stellaron hunter want
@vietcuongnguyenle8530 you dont HAVE to follow a certain path to become an emanator. Aha sometimes makes the mourning actors (those who hate the elation) into their emanators so aeons can technically make anyone into an emanator they just choose to only pick those who follow their own path
The Generals ARE Emanators.
The Spirits that they use are a power given to them by Lan.
Yup, and the generals can call Lan and tell him to shoot his arrow
They are not, they follow the path. Only marshal of Xianzhou fleet might be emanator, but it's still not confirmed.
I don’t think this is entirely true, as Lan does not directly choose who the next Arbiter-General is. The predecessors choose who to pass the spirits onto. Emanators are granted direct access to an Aeon’s path, and Arbiter-Generals do not gain power directly from Lan, but rather through the spirits. The spirits are the blessings, or emanators of Lan. Here’s a more succinct summary I found online:
“Because they are not Emanators as far as we can tell, or at least the position of Arbiter-General does not automatically confer the position of Emanator of the Hunt.
An Emanator is a being who is granted by the Aeon direct access to the Aeon's Path, allowing them to draw upon it for power. They do not gain power from the Aeon directly.
- Data Bank (Terms)
So Emanators are beings which can directly draw upon the power of a Path due to the corresponding Aeon's influence. In fact, you do not even have to be a Pathstrider of a Path to become its Emanator, we have Aha to thank for this fact with THEM granting access to the entire Path of Elation to a Noblesse Worm (typically used for recycling trash).
The Arbiter-Generals of the Xianzhou are not granted this access to the Path of the Hunt by Lan by virtue of their position, what they are given is a blessing in the form of the spirits by their predecessors. Lan does not pick the Arbiter-Generals.
Only in the fleeting moment right before death, when all things appear frozen in time, can the eyes of mortal humans behold the falling forms of these spiritual feathers. Flying Aureus, Spiritus - its speed is the greatest out of the seven forms of the Reignbow's manifestation.
"I spent a dozen days and nights to hunt it, only to discover it has always been inside my body."
- Auspice Silver
We have further confirmation from the Echo of War material from Shadow of "Feixiao". The spirits of the Arbiter-Generals are directly confirmed to be manifestations of the Reignbow, Lan the Hunt. It is the spirits that are Emanators, not the Arbiter-Generals themselves. The Arbiter-Generals can use the spirits for power, but they cannot draw upon the Path of the Hunt directly like an Emanator of the Hunt would be able to.
In fact, the spirits count more as blessings of Lan. An Aeon can grant a blessing to anyone; examples are Yaoshi's blessing of longevity / mara which can be passed on (not all Denizens of Abundance nor all Xianzhou natives are Emanators of Abundance) or Nous' blessing of the third eye to Fu Xuan (she was granted this directly as a blessing for solving one of THEIR puzzles).”
Yeah, no. What itachi said is correct. The Generals are not Emanators; the spirits they control are, for example the Lightning Lord. These spirits have been passed down through generations to each General; they are not the Generals' own power. The only General we can possibly argue is an Emanator at this point is Feixiao since she is the only one who has received an Aeon's gaze, but I could be wrong but even she said she didn't gain anything from it.
@@maksgraczyk9915 the Lightning Lord is not power originating from Jing Yuan it was GIVEN to him by Lan
That is literally wat makes him an Emanator.
That's makes me feel hanabi is an emantror because she has the power to create illusion and copy other person
The only reason why its complicated and more than what it seems is because people are making it so.
Literally its just people who receive the blessings of an aeon. Thats it. Everything else is special sauce people has beeing cooking up.
*Permission to draw more power*
So Welt yang still solo this verse :)
so hsr just establishes lore rules as to how magical objects such as fu xuans eye come to be, so that it eventually is no longer a mystery, unlike in our world how we have all these ancients texts, but on magic items and even if we did we wouldn't know which god had a son who gave us the magical item that gives someone powers, see what i did there
isnt midyuan an emanator also?
i guess? feixiao is also one if he is. black swan did say the xianzhou generals are emanators, but that would also mean the sunday boss was an emanator of harmony..? order? idk, but is he still an emanator??
i was not thinking it man i was VERY MUCH not thinking it😐
I’ll become the Aeon of hate one of these days💯
Looking good
Soooo warlocks?
Eh... Fu Xuan follows path of Erudition. Or at least Xianshou ship Yuque she is from follows "Wisdom Walker" which is Xianzhou name for Nous. On that matter Xianzhou Fanghu follows Long the Permanence. To sum it up, being part of Xianzhou Alliance doesn't make you follower of the Hunt. That's just their unifying policy. And it also should be mentioned that even if you are part of faction that follow certain Aeon, it doesn't mean all individuals of that faction do.
Well yes, following a path is like a religion. Maybe your country is mostly this religion but that doesnt stop you from turning to another religion instead
"Emanators are bormally much more powerful than pathstriders, but that's not always the case"
the case:
(Aha the Elation canonically made a fucking WORM an emanator? hello?? bro was probably just squirming through dirt and died soon after, did he get a tiny mask?? could he morph into a human???)
oops I wrote this before finishing the video
Just a question and a comment
1. So do you think Aventurine is an emanator or not, you keep calling him a pseudo-emanator yet you also claim he's a "double emanator" despite not being an emanator at all
Edit: I am not asking anyone other than Nova what they think about Aventurines status, I do not think Aventurine is an emanator
2. The wiki does say that the Xianzhou Generals are speculated emanators, BUT they are confirmed atp the wiki just hasn't updated that; if you are curious as to how the emanator page should have all the sources
He was blessed by the gaiathra tryclops aka ena of the order and is diamonds emanator
@@chachaanande7148 Its only a theory that Gaiathra is Ena and him being "diamonds emanator" isnt the same as diamond being the emanator of preservation
The point I was trying to make is why he says aventurine both is and isnt an emanator, I just wanted to understand what hes thinking
@@thequipster4114aventurine isnt emanator
@@thequipster4114 in this adventures case emanator is being used in name for diamond and a state for giathratriclops
So feixiao isn’t an emanator?
Not confirmed, just theory
Really.... 6:46
6:46
Ruined a perfectly good video
KSI is my fav Aeon change my mind.
Funny how Sparkle was confirm to be an Emanator but in Honkai Impact.
When did that happen? She's just a strong Pathstrider. Also, the event isn't canon. Only her main story appearance is canon. Also, ver 8.0 just confirmed that when Kiana met with the Memokeeper, she had lost the majority of her authority within a dream. Meaning a sleeping Kiana with a small fraction of her Finality authority created waves like an Emanator.
...Where? I played through the whole thing and not once was the term Emanator brought up in relation to Sparkle, not even implied.
No she wasn’t
Jing yuan are confirmed to be emanator based on Black swan tertimony about jing yuan and sunday clash as clash between emanators. Also yes that black swan is real black swan considering she was the same one who guide MC to wake up from order dream.
No. I've mentioned in another video that Black Swan didn't mention anything about Jing Yuan and Sunday's clash. I rewatched the whole of the fake ending parts of 2.2. She only said Emanator in reference to Acheron revealing her identity and did not mention either of Jing Yuan or Sunday at all. And Black Swan was only able to guide us because of us giving her the Light Cone back during the fake ending, which is how she realized it was all fake due to seeing Misha in "reality."
If she did say stuff about them being Emanators, I would love for you to point out when. Plus, the Emanator on the Sunday side is not Sunday; it's the Dominicus/Harmonious Choir.
@XenoWars and what you wrote in previous video didn't make any sense. Why? Because Acheron didn't exist in order dream. Boothill didn't know her and even failed to remember her so does dan heng and entire cast including welt to Black Swan treat Acheron as she wasn't there until black Swan recollect her empty light cone.
@@RePhantomz No, what you are writing isn't making sense. They do all remember her after they break out of the dream. If they didn't, they would not have went and said goodbye to her before leaving, which was also her only appearance in 2.3 as it is.
Acheron to Black Swan while on the Express: "Because of the Nihility, I'm rarely affected by the power of other Paths, but somehow I can unconsciously infiltrate them... Maybe that's the "risk" they're trying to avoid."
@@XenoWars Irrelevant that they remember later since they remember it on ena dream not Sunday order dream.
You got confused by how the Order dream created by sunday aka fake ending dream and Ena limbo dream are different. All right then let me explain.
Sunday Order dream are created and modified by sunday to trap MC by siphoning Ena dream to manifest sunday version of the dream into reality. In this dream Acheron not exist. To quote black swan this dream is not perfect. AND the clash between Emanators are mentioned here.
The Ena Dream are not controlled by sunday. This is the first dreamscape we dive into before entering penacony and acheron did exist here. Unfortunately for you the clash between emanator are not mentioned here.
TLDR they remember it because they got away from Sunday order dream. But unfortunately for you the clash between emanator are not mentioned in Ena dream but in Sunday dream where acheron did not exist.
@@RePhantomz People only ever mentioned the fake ending, but never said exactly where. I only went and looked at her Light Cone explanation because that was the most obvious part. And you still didn't mention where it was. I had to look through vods again to try and find it. It is directly after the fight.
However, one flaw with your belief that the dreams are different is Misha. Him being present in the Reverie was what Black Swan saw to clue in on you would call Sunday's Order dream is fake. But he was there for the dream as a whole. And you can't say "well we were playing Sunday's dream all along" when Acheron is in it. The fact that Misha was there and is what made Black Swan realize it was fake proves you wrong. Because the part after the Sunday fight is from the TB's perspective, they would not know who Boothill and Black Swan were pursuing, so they wouldn't be able to fill in the gap on who they'd be talking about. That is why Boothill and Dan Heng do not remember Acheron in that scene. They did know about Boothill, though, which is why he is there. Remember that everyone experienced different dreams from Sunday; it wasn't all the same dream, and also that Sunday was also a victim of Ena's Dream.
As for the Emanator clash, that doesn't prove anything. Firstly, Dominicus/Harmonious Choir is the Emanator on the opposing side, not Sunday. Secondly, she could have been talking about the Lightning Lord, not Jing Yuan. And thirdly, she said "Emanators" in quotes at this point, when she doesn't do so when referring to Acheron. That part is what should clue people in on the fact that neither of the two are Emanators but are just using powers of Emanators to fight.