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- Up until the mid-90s if you were openly gay in Albania, you would be sent to prison. Many homosexuals stil face bigotry and violence, even in their own homes.
In the last five years, Albania has seen a dynamic LGBTQ movement. Gay activist have created secret guest houses in Tirana that offer shelter to young homosexuals who have been brutally abused.
VICE Greece traveled to Albania and recorded rare glimpses into the lives of people who have been victimized and neglected because of their sexual orientation in one of Europe's most homophobic countries.
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I never understood how people get annoyed by things that hold absolutely 0% impact on their lives.
coco beware That's like saying "i don't understand why people are trying to cure cancer if they don't have it". You are just stupid and need to rethink your life decisions.
Panic! At The Twenty One Pilots Clearly you just feel defensive because that isn't even in the same argument. LOGIC, unfortunately for everyone who has ever come into contact with you, they don't sell it in stores.
***** It is weird as fuck to want to rape a dead person. PSYCHO>>>>> Hahaha and my skin is immaculate so I don't blame you, you are not the first sad case to want to have my skin :)
***** Lol WTF are you talking about bro? A murderer or rapist in the free world obviously affects the world. Hahaha fucking idiot
Panic! At The Twenty One Pilots makes no sense, because being gay doesn't not mean you are going to die just from being gay.
People are trying to find cures for cancer because it actually kills people , makes people sick etc.
Straight couples don't affect you right?
So a gay couple wont either.
They are both the same in terms of how a usual relationship matters are.
The only difference is sex
Friendly reminder that LGBT topics always get an inordinate amount of troll comments because it's an easy group to harass. There's an exactly 0% chance all the hate is genuine. So you might not be interacting with a petty child who thinks two dudes together is icky - it might be a petty child who just wants to get a rise out of you and knows you'll take the bait.
+A Witty Username I honestly hope that that is true.
+A Witty Username
I think there are a great number of trolls, as expected but I also think you'll find genuine homophobia. It can be difficult to separate the two though.
You're an MORON!!! People say things, because it's wrong, And fucking gross!!
+ndraiden73 True.
+wood2hoz4 You're gross.
7.00 a muslim saying that if the gays dont feel comfortable they should move elsewhere. But if other european countries say that about the muslim lifestyle the muslims feel discriminated.
Andi Gruda fuck your shithole AND your religion.
What? Usually because people telling muslims to go somewhere else are saying it to your average Muslim and not just the crazies in that community. I'd tell all the muslims that hate it in their adopted country to go home. Your average Muslim is glad to be in a nicer country with opportunities to progress, while I'm sure there are some things they dont like. I also have things I dont like about my country, everyone feels this way so why not then.
@@AH-pm8lv Can you make a world favor and drown your stupid existence so no one has to hear the same bs ever again
@@lypcizhenaf8988 You sound so stupid, get yourself educated because people always hate everything and everyone when they're miserable and ignorant, it's not an example the bs you said but a shame for humankind
Yes, of course. So go fuck yourself now
Being in Albania at all is already a struggle.
TheBrognator explain please.
TheBrognator Its not! It is only the Gjypsies, which is poor! Its not the Albanians!
@@Hello-jr5ob I'm talking about the country, not the people
@@Hello-jr5ob lmao not only them albania is shit islam destroyed albania fuck off
@@Hello-jr5ob LOL Albania and Kosovo has the lowest GDP on the continent. They rank between poor African countries.
That shit is fucking real I am albanian and I don't have any problems with gays
+King Lin Well, the rest of the world has problems with gays. This shit isn't what humanity should try to improve, they need to work important things like economy, welfare and improving quality of life, not making it easier for the same gender to teach other in a sinful way.
***** Your comment confuses me. Are you a person that supports gay people or not?
Angryconsumernerd There is nothing wrong with it in fact your insult is as empty as saying you haha your hetero it sounds stupid its 2015
+Angryconsumernerd first thing: what makes you thing that I'm gay. Second thing: i don't take the word "gay" as an insult.😃😃
+Angryconsumernerd I bet I kissed more girls than you, you are such a virgin. Did gay people kill your mom that you hate em'?
i find it interesting that all the albanian lgbt ppl interviewed here spoke fluent english whereas all the homophobes couldn't...
kijiji93 that’s because the lgbt people are from the younger generation where they learn English in schools and all the people who are seen as homophobic in this documentary are all from the older generation.
The whole "homophobia" problem is only a generation gap, few more years and its sorted
It’s the educated vs the uneducated
Wam nah logical
👌 OK
Albania has far more serious problems than these types of controversial issues. As an Albanian, I totally respect the right of each person in this world to live their lives as he/she wants without harming the others. Being a gay does not harm anyone.
God bless you anny, few albanians and greeks here at the comments speak so sensible.
Yeah but the lefties like vice want to always make it an issue...
Vice deleted my comment because they disagree with free speech so I'll just say that I agree totally with your comment. I'll now go back to the free speech section of TH-cam.
@@NMeyer0 It's cause it is an issue tho. People shouldn't have to face such discrimination for something they can't change about themselves.
@@jamesasterwolf584 I agree that it I an issue, especially in Albania, however, you can't change the opinions of everyone on any topic.
It’s not a religious component, this issue happens all throughout the balkans whether it’s Serbia, Croatia or Bulgaria
Abrahamuc religions that is their holy texts are inherently homophobic but being homophobic is not exclusively a religion issue
EDIT; meaning that people can be nonreligious but homophobic or religious and nonhomophobic, depending on how much they consciously or unconsciously hold on to specific bits of bronze age mythology.
Lets say in the Balkan region, Abrahamic religion and the closely correlated feature ethnonationalism are the primary fuel behind the homophobia
@Raigou *abrahamic religions
@Raigou thought it was pretty clear, all abrahamic religions are homophobic, expect the newly made ones
@Raigou so albania's homophobia is mainly due to traditions, and not abrahamic religions
@Raigou gotta be honest with you, I know homophobia was widespread pre-abrahamic religions, but not only to the judean people. Eastern religions and cultures still practice homophobia despite little to no exposure to abrahamic religions. Your comment sounds like atheist speculation tbh. Do you have any proof I could read on?
Every nation has gays
why are Balkan people embarrassed about this lol
Markus Ilirian I'm not actually I have girlfriend, but they have their own right
You don't know shit about Sweden so do not better talk anything.
Markus Ilirian Sweden have 2% muslims
I rather prefer muslims than dickheads like you
Have a nice day.
+Markus Ilirian loser
because people on Balkan are like Cavemen comparing to the rest of the World. It might not seem that way, but they are.
Those who are even somewhat smarter are often abroad, off Balkan.
→Coming from a person who lives on Balkan and is part of LGBT
+Fyorst Senka Bekić Hi there. As a fellow Balkan, I am personally so sorry for what you must have experienced being a part of the LGBTQ community. I know so many people in the community and it breaks my heart to know that a lot of the time, we shun our own in the name of religion or "tradition" *hugs*.
But, even thought I understand where you are coming from, I would be cautious in replying to this person about how we are "cavemen" and primitive. ONLY because Nordic people are notoriously xenophobic and will only get off on us demeaning ourselves.
Again, I understand and feel for your struggle and have often thought that my culture has strides to make, but don't let an Anglo/Nordic/ any other culture who has a history of hating your own allow you to feel worse about your region. Remember, countries like Norway, Sweden and Denmark are NOT the paradises they want the rest of the world to think they are either
"according to Freud". No actually, he said specifically that it was not a disease.
You are correct. The funny thing is that he cites the names of fathers of psychoanalysis but psychoanalysis is not scientific
AND HE GAVED A FUCKING COCAIN AND HEROIN TO PATIENTS DO YOU LISTEN TO A FUCKING SIENTIST JUNKIE???
Correct. It is a disorder, not a disease.
@@bicepstriceps4713 no i only listen to people who can spell scientist correctly. Learn to spell you mouth breather.
@@danielfazlan4769 dumbest comment of the day goes to..... You.
Wait... did he just call ignorance “tradition” ?
James Asterwolf Are we jihadists now? Real funny. Here I am one of Albanias Christians that make up 60% of our nation. You’re smart, Harvard would accept you
thats why greece is now losing, you guys allied serbs and now are gay...
Not all albanians are like this. I am albanian i have a gay cousin, i love him despite that.
@Lazar Cvetkovic Albania int the second poorest country and Kosovo isn't the first poorest country in Europe (glad you admit it is a country). those would be your orthodox and Slavic brethren countries of Moldova and Ukraine. Albania had no allies during communism and we were completely isolated we didn't receive any foreign aid because of this. however Yugoslavia (mostly Serbia) received tons of foreign aid and had a booming economy. if you went to Albania in the early two thousands you'd see how Albania was worse of than Africa. today however Albania is essentially the same as the rest of the Balkans. we are also economically growing a lot faster than your country and we are expected to take you over economically. i earn a lot more than 270 a month do to being economically independent and also the average salary has risen to 350.
Yes
*opens youtube*
TH-cam:struggles of being gay in albania
Me: well this is random
Max le Skrub if their parents are Albanian then they are Albanian
@@thephilosopher1663 na lmfao there are turks and gypsies that are more albanian than this dude
WILL HOLYGONS Yeah right, ti qifsha genjeshtrrat. Rrej Rrej sa dush. Amo te vijna dhe te tregom ne. Te ardhte turp!
@@lypcizhenaf8988 haha good words my friend
Max le Skrub if their parents are Albanian citizens then he might be Albanian too
I feel that there are two categories of "homophobes" in the comment section.
1. People that seem to hate homosexuals for cultural and often religious reasons. They often resort to explanations such as "morally wrong", it says so (MAYBE I should add) in the Bible. Whereas more detailed explanations about the actual wrongdoing in being gay is lacking.
2. Trolls.
I'm a straight man myself, but I sincerely believe that being gay is not a choice. They are not hurting you, leave them be.
you are totally right mate , why would someone chose to be gay in countries were you bullied , punished , live in fear every second of your life , no one chose the hard way of living but so many ignorant people here so i am not surprised.
Thats a magnificent point! I mean sure, there would be some people with masochistic tendencies who perhaps would say they were gay and get something out of it. But considering that it is not that uncommon to be gay in any country, it is incredibly unlikely that all of them would choose to have same sex relationships, and claim that they have been gay as long as they can remember, and do so in a culture where people would hate them. It does not make a single bit of sense.
It would be more reasonable to assume that homosexuality has existed, and deduct that it is very likely that its been a part of human history. And therefore not unnatural, which some in this comment section claims it is
Marcel.M finally someone said it👏👏👏
Marcel.M well said!
Incestrial relationships don't hurt you aswell, I guess we should just let them be too
Why are there so many homophobes around ? What is the exact problem of being gay ?
+Mo Mue That's ethnically and biologically wrong
+Mo Mue
Religion, homophobic family members all contribute to homophobia still being around. Homophobia can be cured though.
+Mo Mue They're usually people who are gay themselves but are ashamed of it. Every time they see a gay person they are reminded of it and there for project their hatred toward their own desires onto them.
+Souverän DE
This TH-camr has posted numerous homophobic comments.....he's totally not gay...totally not.
Whenever someone has a cross as their profile picture I expect an absolutely retarded comment
My boyfriend's parents are from Albania, but he was born in Greece. He has never mentioned anything about me or our 3 year-old relationship in fear of kicking him out. I'm sorry I'll never meet his parents and I'm sorry he isn't comfortable around them
steph papa that‘s really sad! I‘m albanian myself and my parents are as chill as they could be.
I hope u guys will find a solution to this.
@@zenzen5128 why do gays force acceptance from people ok we understand you like to do crazy stuff and your wierd but now you want to indoctrinate our children and destroy our culture and religion
mo Gabriel Albania has a Population of 2.8 Million People, that means being gay isn‘t really a common thing like in other bigger countries. I hope in a few years all the gays will be comfortable coming out with their sexual orientation.
Yes, we albanians may be crazy but I don‘t understand the part about destroying our culture and religion?
Kristina xcxcx Ski drejt me fol per krejt oj shoqe, se kemi krejt IQ‘n te ulet.
Si cilli shtet e ka mentalitetin dhe kulturen e vet. Veq se ka njerzi ka na qe si pranojn njerzt qe jan gay, nuk don me than qe jemi krejt budall.
@@mogabriel5238 so you're proud of a culture and religion that discriminates against people based on who they love? Why do you feel the need to indoctrinate your kids to make them hate gay people?
murat is so obsessed that in the end we'll probably find out he is gay.
That's the way it usually is
A conclusion I am ready for
Exactly
lol yes
Classic
this is the first time i heard someone say "i am bothered that they ask for equal rights". Wow...
@Starter Generator
Hello, again.
@@potatofuryy hello
Starter Generator you are disgusting 😊
@@startergenerator2481 not being killed for start.
Who said that was speaking fax
Wow, it is interesting to see so much hate in this comment section. What are people afraid of here? Why is everybody angry? If you really don't give a fuck about homosexuality as you claim then this should not anger you at all.
Gay people exist, let them be, get over it. No one wants your child to turn gay, but if they do, don't be a monster just love them the same way, you don't have to love what they do in bed, just accept it and move on. Is that really that hard?
preach it.
Don't expect rationality in vice comments.
+maszlagma I wish I were a dictator!
+asdd loll homophobia at its finest.
***** somebody who say "I didn't even watch it" is already brainwashed.
As an Albanian, I disapprove of gays in my country.
Based
As a gay, I dissaprove of Albanians in my country
Kyi ti qifsha motra
Based albania
ypu don't have such power
8:39 Thank me later
Thank you I needed that.
Hrusbduhshshdjhejebe omg thanks so much
I keep replaying it pls help
We know gay people exist but don't know if god exists, but yet deny gay people rights on the off chance it might offend god
You are disgusted by two men expressing their love ? And you expect science to find a "cure" for their sexual orientation ? You try to make me feel disgusted with this like you using the "porn example" . Well,I can give you lots of "porn examples" with heterosexual content that will make you want to throw up . However .. you miss the point .. I can't feel disgusted by positivity like love whether its between gay or straight people . It's unnatural to hate or even dislike people . You are a human , I'm a human , they are humans . You should be the one to go to therapy and talk about your negativity . People are meant to help the world not fill it with hate and superstition . P.S. many animal species have homosexual behaviour . Dolphins , crocodiles , dogs , cats and the list goes on . It's only natural :P
P.S. I haven't seen any animal homesexual as you say. Maybe it's just in your imagination and in your good will of protecting the "ill" people. Dont worry that's kind of you. It's good to try support hummans whethere they are wrong or right because you seem to have good will.And that will be a thing we will need to colonize universe :D ;) see you on Mars.
maybe you should do some research of your own and you will find out before you judge someone .
valentino Marku there actually was a pair of male penguin that mated. they've raised an egg that didn't have a mother and it hatched successfully.
valentino Marku actually we don't need to pay attention to gay people if we accept them...but a lot of people don't so that's the reason why they are fighting for their rights(wich is understandable)...and don't tell me that you hate gay porn coz a lot of boys say like that but they mean that they don't like 2 boys fucking but if you tell them about 2 girls fucking they get all exicted and they are not anymore that disgusted about gay porn tho...
being gay doesnt mean you like wearing heels and act like a girl!! seriously...
***** oh shit we got a badass over here
They never said that it was. But oki
Athena maxwell how would a girl dress like a man? trousers ? they're not male they're neutral. Men wear neutral clothing.
adam andrawes everybody can put whatever they fucking whant u fucking bitch this is as retarded as saying women cant be workers bc thats for Men f
KwstasMode when you Rd right your right
I legit teared up when the mother was speaking about her son and defending him. :")
@@mogabriel5238 don't say "gays" because it is their self-naming, say sodomites or homosexuals, that is they are...
mo Gabriel Fuck you bitch
@Starter Generator
At least state reasons for your hateful and destructive opinions.
@@potatofuryy Where have you seen my hateful and destructive opinions? At least real hatred and destructiveness can be seen only in posts supporting homosexuals...
@Faris Fasil reasons of what?
That politician should be locked up in prison for threatening and spreading hate and violence. This kind of twats are a danger to liberty and human rights.
Lol he never got a seat in parlament
The worst enemies of Albania always were the politicians.
Thank you to all the straight people sticking up for the LGBT community. You guys are awesome and very secure in your skin. The opposite of love is not hate but fear and those who fear us gays are most likely struggling with their own sexuality as most believe. Gay people never had a choice, we are born this way and more importantly it's genetic, so if it's in your family it most likely isn't the first time. One more thing, if being gay is a choice, why would someone chose to live in fear and risk being ridiculed for the rest of their life? I am a lesbian and wouldn't want it any other way!!
+Nikola Tesla are you serbian ?
jk56178
I am not no, but Tesla himself was a Serbian born American.
Nikola Tesla today serbia is even more anti gay than Albania.
jk56178
I can't imagine living in a country like that, I myself am American.
+Nikola Tesla Actually, Tesla was born in Croatia and was an ethnic Serb who moved to the USA.
The amount of dislikes to this DOCUMENTARY just confirms its conclusions.
Jes, Juanito . They hate but they spend their time watching the entire clip. what does this say about them. Che Triste !
Wut ? You hate gay people yet you click , watch , enjoy yourself and grace us with your two cents ? clearly you invest too much energy and time on gay people. that's unhealthy.
Ta chifsha corre ne non . I think that's albania's favourite insult. Ta chifsha bodorle . I know albania is never going to join the EU. way too backward.
As a gay Albanian, I have to say that this has been true in my own experience. It's why I'm still not out to my parents, though I hope to be one day soon. The younger generations are a bit different, and my family who's 30 and under has been nothing but amazing about it.
You have to understand that this hatred mentality is not just in Albania, but all over the balkans.
Seeing this really makes me think about how privileged I am to live in such a safe open minded community.
Yes!! immah so glad, immah so glad
then tell that to the protesters!
TVOR - The Voice of Reason The protestors who’s main goal is for equality to be shown by the state??
TooLongToBeAUserna it’s ungrateful to complain about living in the freest society on earth
TVOR - The Voice of Reason it’s your responsibility as a citizen of any nation to improve your life and the lives of your neighbors.
Laboring to expand on the successes of your predecessors is the ultimate expression of gratitude.
Albanians are very good people..
I'm so sorry for all the LGBT albanians. :(
you mean for their entire nation
***** if we all accept people in the way they are then they should allow phedophiles fucking kids? You are still a kid,go in school u need more knowledge.
If whole world is based on these words"accept people in the way they are" then let chinese people eat dogs,let terrorist go on with the terror,let popes fuck kids,let criminals kill people and sell drugs because thats who they are and we have to accept them,and have respect for them (in your point of view)
God Father How is consenting adults engaging in consensual acts the same as an adult abusing a child who does not understand what is happening nor can give permission?
Venera Seiti so what about the other things i pointed out??
Cant answer them right :/
***** thats why we are so fucked up as a nation.criminals have this mentality like what im doing wrong if i sell few kilos cocaine or weed,nobody is dying.they sell guns and they say "they will shoot with them in weddings",politicans say "we steal some millions because nobody will die from bering hungry".
We are the ones that put our nation in shame.
Look where u living and u care about people who fuck each other in ass.
Its like u dont have bread and u ask for sushi hahha
No logic at all.i think u skiping all classes kid hahahha
I hope gay people will fight for their rights and stay strong. As an albanien, i am ashamed to see how much hate they have against these normal people....
she is probably a vegan...
Tinixi take it to you house my friend
Tinixi if your ashamed of Albanians why do u class them as these gay people?
Anass 040 no but your saying these gay people... that's rude
Dad****
Im from Serbia and im homphobic too
@chad stary Thanks
amazing news 💯✅
Why?
@@kyi7373 Cuz why not
@@whiteeagle889 Give me an actual response. If you don't I'll just report you to TH-cam for being underage 😍😍
This is the most toxic and homophobic comment section I think I've ever seen.
Leave them be! Why do you care so much? Hate is more often than not a fear of the unknown, you're scared in other words.
Who someone loves is none of your business, how someone dresses is none of your business.
Did you know that in ancient Greece same-sex marriages were respected and in some cases looked on as masculine and more blessed.
Times change, it is natural that some people just can't keep up with everything.
Thanks for coming to my mini Ted talk
we are all Albanian and we should all except each other as a community it should not matter if your gay or lesbian how cares? we are one people
Albanian nationalist Muslim the least Gays in Albania should do is at least be affectionate in Private and not be publicly gay that's the only reason why they do not like them
Albanian nationalist Muslim I know why cant they keep that kind of stuff private
analbania - europe's outhouse
Alex mgo Not only albanians.
matt & LDN exactly and it is very sad to see
The sad thing is that most eastern european countries are exactly like this :(
because they arent stupid liberals
Jidfidfhshy Appleseed Not at all. Just Russia
There are waay worse countries
Thats actualy anything but sad.
@@illyrian9976 true
No one becomes gay.... They were born like this. It just shows further as they grow.
Even if, in which way does it matter. You're also not born as a soccer fan, so it shouldn't be allowed?
Albania is not strict enough towards gays.
Gaylbania? Seriously?
+OzzMarz 2K16 ther are hot girls in Albania
+OzzMarz 2K16 no they arent imo.
+音楽の世界 take out the L is sounds much better. Gaybania
Djellon 232 How about you open up? you gaybanian.
I think algaynia sounds better tbh
As an Albanian, the answer is simply a lack of education. Albania is by no means an exceptional case in Europe or the world. Once everyone is more educated on matters such as letting people live their lives as they wish without the influence of politics or religion, then societies everywhere will be much healthier.
So with more gays the community will become healthier ??
I see
What
BlackMask with more acceptance for gay people, yes.
The society you advocate for will fall as people submit to their selfish desires in a Godless society.
It`s very sad to see that as an Albanian.. I´m glad that I respect all sexual orientations
you should not respect something wrong
@@Gjaku What is wrong with supporting LGBTQ+?
@@bananenmus_tv1483 a lot of things lmao
@@bananenmus_tv1483 plus the fact that your questioning what's wrong with it confirms that there is something wrong with it
@@tyronenelson1349 Please elaborate
Proud to be ALBANIAN🇦🇱☪️
alhamdulillah 🇦🇱
Do you like gay people?
@@diar2291 no
@@cruelclipsy2943 let’s go allahuakbar!
@@cruelclipsy2943 why not?
Good for that cop telling off the doctor, telling him that they are human beings too just like us.
Still doesn't change anything majorly.
@@cxarhomell5867 you’re under like every comment spreading negativity. why?
I can't believe A country in Europe do this!! Philippines is much better(interms of society and acceptance).
LGBT Albanians we support you. Keep fighting.
Well if you want to force acceptance on them then in return Albanians could put up a billboard in Sweden saying, "Don't be gay, be Heterosexual." And if you say that is narrow-minded and bigoted then you are a hypocrite.
+Declan Newton it is physicly impossible to change ones sexual orientation
uschi tuschi
No
reih alondres sorry dude , but those ppl weren't speaking Albanian! They were speaking another language so.....
philipines ? the country who rapes girls ?
Allahu Akbar
these people are sad but why they dont try to be straight
i think science and religion can help them
You're the main reason this video exist.
We don't need fixing, we're fine as we are. Some people are gay and some people are straight. What about it? Shut up with your homophobic beliefs.
you believe in god😂😂😂
you fairy tale believers dont know anything about science? lol
@@vardets1032 😹YOU BELIEVE IN LGBTQXYZ
@@vardets1032 😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹
When you're Albanian and you don't need to read the subtitles 😔
katerina k shes speaking greec not albanian
@@thebest5982 they are speaking Albanian dipshit
@@rshq0 ρε είσαι κουφός ελληνικά μιλάει ούτε την γλώσσα σου δεν ξέρεις
@@rshq0 the women narrating was not.
As an American who has lived in Albania, I must say that Albanians are very friendly and hospitable. They have more religious tolerance than most further developed nations. I can only hope they will transition away from homophobia and racism towards the Roma as well.
+Lord Sadicus
So first you destroy their homes and when they are in forest, you complain?
Agreed. I hope Americans start treating the Mexicans and blacks better tho. Americans are the biggest bigots and racists of all western countries. Nonetheless, there are American pacifists and rights activists moaning about other countries shit... Love americans tho
*powerofpickle* ~ "...friendly and hospitable"????? *R-i-i-i-i-ight...!* AND, *exceedingly* homophobic and racist; *such* fun ({: \ ...!!!
~How do you "steal a house"...??
powerofpickle well said my friend. And Albanians respect Americans and they’re welcome in Albania.
Oh look, Religion getting in the way of people just wanting to live their own life on their terms. No surprise there then.
Its accurate and I like it
Of course not. Religion is the root of all evil. God is not great,
@@ambientspaces1343 great? He’s not even real 😂😂
@@cxarhomell5867 I hope some day religion is going to destroy your life.
@@ambientspaces1343 edgy atheist
These are the stories that demonstrate what it is like to be from the LGBTQI community and live in a country that thinks shame and honour are more important than the lives of it's citizens. I enjoyed the greek speaking narration too, it was nice to hear Greek and understand what there were saying even though whet they were saying was tragic. I don't know what it is going o take for people to have more empathy and compassion towards others. As a human race we need it. Thank you for the story and those involved in sharing it. Bravo sas!
Openly gay deserve not Albanian citizen and no citizen of Albania
My respect for Albania being homophobic 📈📈📈📈📈📈📈
My respect for algaynia ↘↘↘↘↘↘↘
@@vdagr8795 no one cares about your respect bastard
Imagine being scared of gay people
You're uneducated, so sad for you
My image about Albania completely changed after this video. Not because of the content of the video but because of the number of dislikes and absolute hateful comments by Albanians. I do get it that in most countries where homosexuality is illegal or discouraged, it is mostly because of religion and because of old people who are in power and don't want to accept change. But even then the young generation is more open minded. That's why even though the country might be homophobic, lot of people do come out in support of homosexuality, specially young people.
But in case of Albania, it seems like the younger generation is just as backwards like the previous generation. I have never seen so much hate. Where people are writing stuff about killing gays. Wow.
LolGuy dude just shut the fuck up and live your life . Dont worry about others
100% agree. I’m Albanian but live in the US. Now all the newer generation wants the old communist closed border policies again where everyone was starving and not having any voice in the government.
That's the message that needs to be sent to Albania
The situation is not as bad as the video tries to portray it. They start by saying Albania is one of the most homophobic country in Europe. True, but not much different to the rest of eastern europe. All of these countries are conservative like that. Gayism is a new thing and mostly come from fucked up social networking and lazy people's life style trying to copy mofos from jung tv and social media. Not in entirety, but almost all Alb gays in that video are idiots by nature. Not saying that gays are idiots, but Gays start from being idiots until it becomes a socially accepted norm. Now, does the average albanian want their kids to grow up as one of these idols? Hell no. So debates and movements start. We are at that stage now. Arrivederci.
Ohhhh, *Tristian Gashi;* aren't *you* the "caring, altruistic", one ({: \ ...?! *Such* the "enlightened being"!
I'm Albanian and I have NOTHING against the LGBTQ+ community.
I live in California & I don't think there's anything wrong with them.I 100% respect and understand them, and know it's not a choice.
You live IN CALIFORNIA. :D Many people in Albania, I would say pretty much everyone is OK with gay people, but it's the societal pressure that keeps them acting like they do. Everyone wants to fit in.
@@Pakiskawat FAKE NEWS albania ia not gay 100%
LoL I am also from California but being gay is pretty gay .
Qisha ropt
Oh zot, jetojn ne Kalifornia😂😂😂. Sa shmanon jane atje
As an Albanian I feel heart broken on how they treat people.. PS im not gay
The age of consent in Albania is 14 that's even fucked up
@@saeedurrahman2056 that's fucked up
@@saeedurrahman2056 i dont get why so many countries have such low ages of consent... weird
@@saeedurrahman2056 omg every day i become more grateful that i am romainian
je je ahahah
It’s so sad 😭 you get abandoned by your loving family. This brought tears to my eyes . The lgbt activist mom is amazing incredibly. 🥰🙏
Tuan Hoang she'd have suffered great exclusion herself from friends and family, this really is a very very rare set of circumstances
Gay or not , they are humans just like we are, who are we to judge someone else's sexuality? Or judge the love that they want to have.
Felicia Koey i agree, we shouldnt abuse gays but as for "who are we to judge?". i feel like thats just more leftist accepting rhetoric with no real meaning.
we have the right to judge because that is how society works. just as you can judge homophobes or paedophiles, society has a right to judge gays in any way it sees fit. open discourse and democracy has conditioned us into openly passing our judgement on other people. whether you agree or not is pointless, people have the authority to judge other people, even if it hurts their feelings
Welp, say that to eastern orthodox Christianity or islam
Much encouragement and support for the LGBTI community in Albania. In Spain we have ensured that the vast majority see us as normal people with a lot of struggle and effort. Do not lose heart and gradually love will conquer hate. Many kisses from Spain
Sure, it's more logical to believe in a book that says that a man opened the sea or that the Earth was made in six days, yes ...... hahahaha
Carpe Diem!
+culture _701 hold this L
Marko Antonio ma vaci a fanculo
kurroUR thank you
Respect Albanians! 🇬🇷🤝🇦🇱
Ugly bigot
Much respect to Greeks against sodomites 🏳️🌈⃠🏳️⚧️⃠
🇦🇱🤝🇬🇷
@@LittleLozcall me a bigot too, I consider it a honor badge
@@zed-47 why? Bit weird
@@zed-47 imagine being as backwards as you
This is crazy how they use Islam as an scapegoat for this situation. I come from an Albanian background and I can honesty say that the majority of Albanians aren’t religious at all in fact they many even hate religion. Albania’s love there culture more than anything in this world. They’re filled with extreme pride. This has nothing to do with Islam.
Hate religion, you've been talking to some weird Albanians. We are mostly open about religion and somewhat religious
On a more serious note, no, according to Freud is not a disease
Say what you said agin after studying basic biology
a muslim telling people if they dont like it here go somewhere else.... thats fucking comedic gold.
Respect to Sigma Albanians for not accepting these things 🗿🗿🗿
Being a gay Jamaican who have faced constant homophobic abuse I resonate deeply with this documentary. And that's why Equality is needed across the board.
I have a bisexual friend who lives in albania and I can't even begin to imagine what it must be like
It isn’t so bad this video is completely fake. The subtitles are completely wrong on every person. Like the one who said “bullet in the head and then prison” he literally said “And then I’ll go to prison” he didn’t even mention shooting anyone. And then there is the fact that the people in this video are Greeks. This video was made by Greeks to make Albania look bad sine Greece and Albania are rivals
This is just made by VICE Greece and VICE Serbia to make Albania look like shit
@Hamid Hussein Albanian Christians and Albanian Muslims don't support it
@@lypcizhenaf8988 he didn’t mention shooting anyone? then why is he going to prison? as someone from a balkan country life for gay people may not be AS bad as portrayed here but it’s definitely extremely hard and this is an issue in the entire region not just Albania.
@@lypcizhenaf8988 im saying this in the best way possible and its ok if ee disagree this is just my view on this. Some subtitles may be wrong and those countries may have bad history however you cannot deny the truth. You saw it there how theyre treated and its honestly so bad. Maybe if it were to be shown as even worse than it is people would start making a change. In my opinion it is the same as how it is portrayed here and i say this as an albanian too who has gone there many times. I knew a lesbian in one town that was small and no one talked to them for years who wasnt their thankfully accepting family. In school they were bullied, on the streets people would avoid and stare and talk and do probably worse when i wasnt there to witness it. When i was going to buy something from her because she had a small market on the street i was literally held back because people were worried about me going near a lesbian. Nothings changed and ive witnessed stuff happening to her for 3 years now. Dont ignore the reality of people who are struggling. Everyone deserves the same rights,especially if they arent harming themselves or others. Albania and many other places need to change.
😭 the world is such a cruel place.
So im an albanian. what annoys me the most is that alot of people in the world see albanians as really bad people. Honestly every single thing posted on social media is the negative side of albania. I still think people should focus more on the positive side of Albania, it’s not only albanians who don’t support gay people, it’s just muslims who don’t support it. I am a muslim and i still feel bad for what gay people have to go through.
I guess u have 1 life i think so better do what u gotta do and then i guess darkness?
No its awesome as a muslim or an orthodox christian
@@png_x861 good. May Allah bless them. You can’t support them either. But treat them with respect.
Because of you
They are not Albanians👎👎👎👎👎
That person at the end explained it well. Years need to pass. Unfortunately, I don't think governments are quite ready to educate people at all levels.
wow.. they actually speak better english than the average french
Hey!
Did you have any doubts?
Albanians have a better accent in English than most Europians,especially the Gheg dialect
@@liis5425 i know i am an Albanian myself
They speak better English than some English 😂😂😂😂 Liverpool and Newcastle’s being 2 City’s where could be forgiven for not realising their speaking English….
I want to clear this up NOT ALL ALBANIANS ARE LIKE THIS
*"White Rhino"* ~"...certain region"?? Uhhhh, *Tirana...?!?*
All Albanians are gay tho
NPC 383774784585337 how come ur alive my son
Im albanian, i dont have a problem with lgbtq at all! Many of my friends are lgbtq and i dont have a problem.
Albania so based that gays made video about us. 🗿🗿🗿
Albania is the Nigeria of Europe
@@user-jo7px2yl6t Nigeria is the richest country of Africa
I'm an Albanian that lives in America and it saddens me that we as a people have not modernized enough to treat gays as equals. They were born that way, and we should not be treating our fellow countrymen this poorly.
Do you have proof they were born that way?
+DOORSTOPPERS So you are saying you woke up one day and decided you were straight?
+Jordan Stanters yea.. I'm white and I didn't just wake up one morning and decide I'm black. I'm white so I act white. It wouldn't make any sense for me to start acting like a African from Africa. I'm a man and I'm suppose to like women and that is it.
+Jordan Stanters I wear a size 11 shoe so I buy size 11 shoes. I don't buy size 7 shoes I buy size 11 only. I'm a guy so I date women
This is a propaganda film I speak fluent Albanian and it is not translated correctly e ti qe te duket bukur me qen bythqires ik atje ne greqi perete bersh seks me ata
First of all. Albania is not a muslim country, its secular. The Turks brought Islam into the country, today the country knows many religions who by all means live in peace. Communism plays the greater part here. Albania has lived under communism until the 90ies, so people lived under many restrictions, including their sexuality. So it is logical that they have difficulties with same-sex relationships. However, times are changing, more people are travelling abroad and more people are embracing who they are.
*Jess VDB* ~Well...let's hope so!
Don't tell me communism is to blame for the lack of sexual freedom. If anything Islam opposes anyone expressing themselves freely, same goes for Catholicism. I come from a communist country, and while being gay was never an open thing, people were not treated like this. If anything, we had transgender and crossdressing celebrities for years.
Actually Albania IS a Muslim country with almost 60% of the population following Islam. We may not be the most devout of Muslim people in the world but damnit we are still a Muslim country!
@@jinetbarba643.... Thenk you
Best comment
I don’t hate people who are gay I hate the gay concept it’s self
The hetero concept weird me out
I'm Muslim an I don't care if your gay my brother is gay an I support him 100% of the way.
Gay rights are human rights
+spectaclereplication
Agreed.
I love the editing and how they shot this doc. Very immersive experience!!
Much respect to these courageous activists. Your actions influence your peers. Someone in the future will enjoy a free life because of your bravery.
Well vice,you did an absolutely awful job on this topic in Albania. Firstly, how can the reporter define by the words of one person the mentality of everyone else that is Albanian? And also you did a great job(sarcastically talking) on manipulating the words as you wished and misinforming people! I speak Albanian,Greek and English, so you all can understand that i can clearly translate correctly each word that the Albanian part said,the Greek part said and the English subtitles part said,and most of the time as i was watching the subtitles and the Greek reporter talking,they were passing,let's say it,a hateful message towards my country and most of the things didn't even co-relate with the topic about the struggle that gay people go through in Albania!And an information by a passer-by,i advice you to talk to people that are not a part of a national party, that thing is just stupid and a waste of time..in each country that you will go and ask a national party, you will get the same answer or even worst! And again,stop misinforming people into making them believe the worst things for our country! Anyone that's interested in learning more stuff about the culture,traditions and the way of life of an Albanian,can surely send me and have a conversation with me or you can visit well-trusted and verified websites that talk about those stuffs!
Why does this not have over 100 likes. Your 100% right.
You're right. Lately the Western trend of victimising has spread even in Albania.
From every problem in the world, you picked this?
Being persecuted is a pretty serious topic.
+Moduhlize Not for being gay.
+polak551 Just Greek Gay things
Enzo Ciarlini Persecution is persecution. Explain to me why being gay and persecuted is not a serious topic, and try to be logical doing so, in other words, don't use God as an excuse to be a prick.
+polak551 THIS.
I'm gay and I'm not offended by the gay bashing comments.
You get used to it.
*"Ermis Bitri";* hmmmm, that translates as: "brain-damaged cockroach faeces", *yes...??*
*"JusticeAlong"* ~weren't you convicted of "Genocide", and "Crimes Against Humanity", by The Int'l War Crimes Tribunal at The Hague...?? Oh, yeah...and also, of "Being Brain-Dead"!!
*Charlie Gonzalez* ~Well, you *know:* as it *is,* tens of thousands of Albanian "Migrants", in a last-ditch attempt to better their lives, are desperately seeking to get INTO Syria, Afghanistan and Eritrea ({; D ...!!!
AugustanFinn thats the problem, you shouldnt get used to that bs :(
Romeo Reyes Sweetie, nobody gay or strait is worrying about you. You’re not cute enough for that.
alhamdullilah 🇦🇱☪️, if they don’t like it they can leave
Oh maaan, go in România to see what’s there🤦🏻♀️
@@joshuahagan1797 hahahhaha
Religion, I would argue, is the most powerful institution that there is on earth, and the most difficult to break apart.
Albanians are hardly religious
lol another one with the religion argument. How defeatist...
FishFridge the only reasons 70 percent of Albanians are Muslim is because of the food they offer you
@@noahisfirst1930 No not that.... The census of 2011 said 56% of the population was Muslim, however it's probably even lower Because after a poll conducted by the christian churches of Albanian, over 30% were not asked to participate in the census. And both the 2007 and 2011 census were conducted in a corrupted way.
Well yes its the most pervasive kind of institutionalised psychological abuse in existence
It's exactly the same in other Balkan countries as well, especially Serbia. So sad our people can't really see past hate.
@@sranmirkov4458 ko
Rat Daddy same in Bulgaria
euro_dragon albania isn‘t a muslim state wtf ??
Keep in mind the recent wars in the area.
@@euroNS druze, Albanija nije muslimanska, nemoj da se brukas. Oni su katolici.
Why we get hate? Just cause we don't like the things you like?
I don’t support LGBT but also I don’t support violence on gay people.we should all live we respect and understand our differences.
Same
why so many dislikes?
+Paulius Daunys Muslims down voting. They don't like their bigotry exposed.
+Ryan0556 It's all propaganda, Greece propaganda with the help of VICE.
Because this channel has some of the most juvenile and cancerous bunch of kids..And I'm not just talking about this video
Ryan0556 You just pointed the finger against muslims while trying to be a saint and defend gays. You exposed yourself.
homophobi and narrow minded people who have no understanding of sexuality
it's a little ironic and hypocritical for vice greece to be reporting on the situation in Albania, when in fact the situation in Greece is not that much better.
+jg1756 lol yes it is..
Azor Αζώρ no not really, discrimination against gays, and other minorities is rampant all over Greece. there are videos you can watch that shows greeks having to hide in their homes for weeks at a time because they are afraid of going in public. the whole Balkans region is like that.
miden zero maybe you can speak for yourself about how gay friendly you are, but i stand by what i said that the situation in Greece towards gays is not really that much better compared to other southern European countries. If you don't believe me just go search: Plight of the only gay in the Greek village
jg1756 not all south countries, Portugal (and also Spain I think) are really gay friendly, more than countries like France or the UK
I fully agree with you, as I stated in a previous comment, its mostly more isolated villages who are a bit old fashioned bearing that mind set(homophobia). The bigger cities are very tolerant towards LGTB people. And I believe that is the same in Greece and all over the balkans.
wow im shooked.. iam albanian but that is to much i mean wow in speechless..
i feel with those ppl cuz i know how they are feeling ahh ;// im crying
hahahahahaha
@Hamid Hussein It is good that you take their situation so seriously, you course consider donating to lgbt+ organisations like the Trevor Project!
Ca shqiptar je ti mor bythqir
As an Albanian, seeing this saddens me. However, I’ve seen incorrect translations throughout this video. A big one is where they’re interviewing Juelia. She doesn’t say that anyone told her “I’ll fuck you.” In reality she says they swear at her and she won’t say what words her dad used. This is a blatant violation of any ethics in regards to this issue.
gay people live much better in greece than albania
Not really....trust me , I'm Albanian and I was born and live in Greece and I know what happens in both countries regarding this issue ,do the answer is that most people have the same mindset ,which means they don't really accept gays as they are
remind me to never go to Albania
Marky boi We don't need you here in Albania
Marky boi darling All Eastern Europe countries have this specialty in Russia ...
hahaha, if your son wants to suck dick he'll do it anyway. maybe your hate of homosexuality is greater than your love for your own son. if so, i feel sorry for you. Plus, why would you see your son sucking dick?
if you are GAY better dont come we dont need Gay people here
@@1994dashi Tf is wrong with you? Shut yo bitch ass up
Enver Hoxha where are you? Please come back we need you!
UÇK Fighter wtf? No bro hes better off dead.
@@nana-zi2qg and then serbs are problem for you we have comon enemy and that is west trust me brothers befoure otomans arvied we where in alaince albanians and montenegrians and serbs djerdj kastrioti ivan crnojevic fighting together against turks
divide and conquer my friends it is alvays divide and then conquer
biceps triceps he legit murdered people for no fucking reason what are you on about?
Cfare je tu than te qifsha pidhin e nones buddala
What business it is of anyone else whom you want to sleep with probably not getting any themselves
@Adlion Myftarago yes, you do have a problem with that. Gay people wouldn't have to demonstrate publicly if they were left alone. Also, you don't know your own history. Gay people were sent to prison in Albania until the 1990s. If you leave Gay people alone, they would be very happy. But you think you have the right to control them. So you be quiet and go away.
@@ted1091 legally i can insult your mother but i wont every socity has its limits
One minute in and I had to stop watching, this is heartbreaking. Also, what's up with almost half the viewers putting a thumbs down?
People are idiots so of course they putting thumbs down
@@WJHou-hz2de people who understand basic biology would say different
@@eranderand5679 What does this have to do with biology?
@@eranderand5679 BaSiC bIoLoGy
I still don't really understand why gays are so hated all over the world... It's a form of love. I really want to to know the reasons gays face all this hate
+mcrettable i think its because its different and strange. people always fear the different and strange things. i think the only thing what we can do about it is education. if someone knows what it is they will understand that there isnt anything to be feared. :)
One thing I'm confused about is, y'all are mad at another man/woman for dating the same gender? Them being in a relationship does NOT affect you in any way, "the bible says it's wrong" well girl the bible says it's wrong to hate your neighbors but y'all keep being hateful.
hi i'm an albanian gay girl. Albania is a very homofobic place. most of people are muslim and they use this for an exuse to hate. In the word thare are many places like albania, but not all people are like this. People are ignoramt and they can't understand anything different from them.
based albania keep it up 💯💯💯
poorest country in europe lmao so based
Love is a terrible thing to hate.
@@MementoMoriGrizzly tf are you saying
@Tansy Thomson my condolences to you and your sister.
@Tansy Thomson and your parents too
@@startergenerator2481 🙄
So Vice Greece and Vice Serbia do reportage about Albania?! Hahahahaha
Vice Greece is full of (turk)albanians. Relax
...... dude, the west shits on itself all the time. Calm down, everyone is a work in progress.
@@NuclearAssault2 An albanian calling a Greek "Mongol" , is like saying that a Samurai is Portuguese. I think albanians are the last ones to speak about Asian peoples(Even your bloody head shape is Asian-Phenotypic , what a joke)
@@gconnliberator3 Oh Yeah? Well at least we're white like most Europeans. Go for a walk around your city. You'll never be able to find a single white greek. You all look north Africans, Ethiopia to be precise.
@@NuclearAssault2 it is true that North Albanians are fair , blonde people. But dont try to sell me lies boy. You yourself know how albanians looks, triangulating, Brachykephalic head shape, crooked noses , dark eyes&light, red skin , short , and very slim. Total Asian characteristics. I am a northern Greek, from Kilkis. I am blonde and have blue eyes. Just like most of my friends . It just depends where you come from, North/South. You wanna tell me that south albanians are white? Because as many south Albanians I know, they are darker than any Greek I know . Like Pakistanis
This is should be the last thing to worry about in albania
Im not homophobic but dude if you don't get comfortable in this country any country just go somewhere else that you feel more comfortable just that
@@orimandel im not saying that they have to or anything else im saying if they can cuz that's why they made those shelters for people with no money im just saying
@@orimandel and your right good piont good response
@@herman007bond2 bro ik what your trying to say but you realise how illogical and horrible that is, your telling people to ditch their home, family, friends and life all under the basis for how they were born and who they are as a person. No one should have to flee their country simply because their sexuality is different from an another individuals
@@robertcorkins7197 dude most of them their parents have already left them soo like im Albanian and i know a lot of flaws of Albania that will never be fixed my parents where always afraid when i would go to school safely so a pedo or a guy who sells kids organs take me if i was late a minute my mom was worried so i left Albania cuz i got bullied at the school cuz i was born on another country which is retarded and accept for math i was low on my score card sooo for me leaving a bad country was nice ok
Sad story never knew Albania is like this.
It is not, you only seen a 30 min glimps a few rotten appels, majority of Albania is pretty tolerant towards LGBT people
*"Mentos Freshmaker"* ~Oh, r-e-e-e-eally?!? And are you a member of Albania's lgbtqi+ community, then? Or have you, perhaps, conducted some detailed and unimpeachable survey of that community, in order to have come to such a bizarre conclusion/determination ...?? Upon exactly what do you base your findings-to-that-effect and, on just what basis have you formulated such an - highly suspect - opinion?
Mentos Freshmaker majority? Are you dumb? Almost everyone is against it
It is sad. Many people don't realize how cruel Albania is to live in.
@@alexysq2660 I live there, been living there for 30 years now u muppet. I lived in big & small cities & I have friends that are gay. Nobody has problems. This is just a focused documentary on few people who complain about homophobia & others who acutally practice it. This could be applied to literally any country on the planet and u'd have the same result. Just don't reply if u don't have a valid argument