If that was my child I would have moved to that location. I'm not going home without them. My life would have been inspecting every inch of that area and surrounding areas. Anyone who visited the area I would have investigated them as well.
Spoken like a TRUE MOTHER!! I TOTALLY AGREE..TENT, PORTA-POTTY, I WOULD HAVE LIVED THERE TILL I FOUND HIM!!! As a Family of 4 we once went to Sesame Place, In the Computer Lab they have, (the computers thankfully were NOT working that day ), only some Arcade style games were active. There were about 20 people in the building. My husband & I were playing Hungry Hippos with our 4 year old & I was holding my 18 month old. I put her down, and told my husband to pick her up bc I have severe problems with broken discs in my back. He didn't hear me, & I looked down for a moment bc my son was excited about the game..within a span of 3 minutes my 18month old was gone. I screamed at my husband, who freaked out, I immediately told the employees to block the 2 doors. I told everyone in the place to please not move for a moment as my young daughter was missing. I have a very loud voice when I am frightened and I can be VERY BOSSY!! It only took 5 minutes to find my little one who was inside a car driver arcade game, actually hiding from us..thinking it was funny..We did play hide and seek in our home (Something I REALLY REGRETTED AFTER THIS), So it all worked out, but I had Moms coming up to me asking me, how did I know what to do?? I asked them How do you NOT??? PS That 18 month old is now a beautiful 28 year old, who laughs about this story to this day.
@@foster9062 Thanks..it was so frightening at the time. We packed up the kids, went back to the hotel & seriously discussed whether we were gonna go back the next day. We did just get some pool time, then a quick Sesame Parade & we were outta there..I was never so happy to be home!!! My husband passed away 4 years ago and truthfully he was the most amazing father, my kids (not kids now...adults) miss him desperately..Of course, he took my heart with him when he left and there are days when I just wish I was there with him...but I know what it would do to my sweet kids..I adore them both and they are amazing. So, I talk to him all the time & watch for signs & if I concentrate real hard..I imagine I can still hear his heartbeat like I used to, when I would rest my head on his chest..😇💖💔
I agree with you. I would not go home I would not leave that forest without my baby boy. I have three and they all look like this angel and it breaks my heart.
Ok come on!! That’s four separate entities that are saying that the parents have lied. 1) The local sheriff 2) The FBI 3) the first private investigator 4) the second private investigator, and both of the investigators hired by the family. “When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.” -Sherlock Holmes
It's just so weird how the mother got re-married like 8 months into her son's disappearance...she's shady af. I think she did something to get rid of deorr so she could start a new life with her new man.
I know I wouldn't be ready to get married 8 months after my baby went missing. That's weird as fuck I don't like to judge but that seems so bizzare to have your mind set on something like getting married that soon. I would still be an emotional wreck I have a little 2 and a half year old boy right now and there's no way I just couldn't.
These young parents who kill kids so they can have freedom and their unemployment money to themselves are all the same. Like Casey Anthony the loser whose little girl was in her way. The kids always get the blame for these POS sleeping around to have them in the first place.
Especially when she'd already given her first 2 kids away to their father after getting with Vernal and having DeOrr. So there certainly seems to be a pattern here.
Yea I thought it was very odd how she would never talk and never look up at the camera. That's ur kid, most mothers would be pleading with the public for their child. I think both parents were having affairs. The way they acted around each other and the way he always did the talking made me think that something else was going on too.
The couch guy does seem strange, but not in a "guilty criminal" type of way. I really think the mother (if not both parents) did something wrong. The whole thing is too weird. The mom in particular has been caught in lies. She's clearly hiding the facts.
Not to be mean but how exactly do you lose a two year old in a family camping situation? He's two. His legs aren't that long...he couldn't be that fast...and in oversized cowboy boots.
Elana McNutt check out missing 411 by David paulidis . This is unexplainable phenomenon. Children and adults vanish instantly without a sound or trace in our national parks and forests it's bazaar. May not apply to this case but look into I'm sure you'll be mindblown
Elana McNutt. You don't. I believe that beautiful child was never at the camp site, not alive anyway. These people are lying, they keep changing their stories, they have both failed multiple lie detectors and their both going to end up in the electric chair with the grandfather at their side.
jeanette Hinds I hope you are never on a jury. You need actual solid evidence that proves a person guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, to convict someone and you're ready to fry them just on your suspicions.
Parents did it because the jacket and toys they claimed deor had that day were found at an abandoned apartment that the parents were evicted from for not paying rent. Lies upon lies. Dont believe crocodile tears
And also this @ about 14:55 Strange guy w/ the Grandfather: Yea, I think there could have been an accident. Interviewer: Do you think it was kidnapping? Strange guy: blah blah blah... Yea, there could have been an accident. To me, that says it all.
Kid dies from an accident, neglect, abuse, or whatever. Parents fear being blamed. So they bury him somewhere and then stage his disappearance.way out in the woods far from where he really is.
The Sheriff believes he is dead and that he was killed. He says the parents have painted themselves into a corner when they said he was wearing floppy boots that he could not walk in. The boots have never been found. The parents are suspects but they have not been charged yet because they don't want to jeopardize the case yet. He said the parents failed multiple polygraph tests especially when asked if they know where he is!
i don't want to speak ill on anyone that said i just can't get over that man on the couch. some kind of oddness there that didn't sit well with me idk what it is or why.
April London I reckon he knows more than he is saying, you hear him several times referring to an accident and very hesitant on the kidnapping question.
Me too...a gut feeling about him....have to say though the grandfathers story makes no sense either, he's supposed to be supervising a two year old and lets him wander off to find his parents alone in this remote area with a reservoir nearby? Who would do that??
Unfortunately, I believe the parents are involved. Her 911 call does not sound like a panicked or distraught mother, it sounds very fake, as though she's trying to sound upset. She says "um" 3 different times I think it was. If you realize your small child is missing, you're not going to call 911 and say "umm, well I think... um, I think that- um that my child is missing?" F that. Also, how often do we see her looking up at the camera or the faces of those in the crowds? Once, twice maybe? A mother who wants her child found is going to make eye contact with as many people as possible, look them in the eye and tell people how badly you need your child back, please help us. Not sit in silence staring at the ground. Lastly, it's very rare for an individual to fail a polygraph test MULTIPLE times if they are in fact telling the truth, it just doesn't happen. For the police and 2 separate, unrelated private investigators to all point the finger back at the parents says a great deal right there. Just doesn't add up to me at all. I only hope that the poor little guy didn't have to suffer, whatever was done with him.
She sounded scared and in shock to me, hence the hesitance (as in not wanting to believe what she is fearing). I think the call is totally credible. Go back and re-listen.
Not everyone who doesn't look a person in the eyes is lying either. Sometimes too much eye contact can mean a person is lying. It could be that she doesn't want to look up because she doesn't want to have a complete meltdown or doesn't want to sob inconsolable during the interview. The call itself sounded valid and not really made up. I myself think they probably did it and once everything blew up to this point they probably feel that if they were to change the story to it being an accident that they'd be found guilty due to the longevity spent sticking to tart story alone. If he was abducted, he may not have been able to scream if he was grabbed from behind and his mouth covered. There's too many factors people don't take into consideration. If he wasn't found by now, chances are he was possibly buried, they killed him elsewhere and everyone there was in on it, or even that he could have fallen in a hard to see hole unless you were almost right on top of it. Either way though, it probably won't be an easily solved case for quite a while.
something not right... if he got lost wondered off he wouldve been cryn screaming for his parents they would've herd him....somebody did something to him.....
Absolutely not true. We get children lost in the bush semi-regularly they wander off and normally die of dehydration after a few days. They don't cry or if they do they aren't heard until someone comes upon them. Thats not to say the parents didn't do something to him. His remains should have been found by now unless someone had actually hidden them.
Curshala Pernell look into Missing 411 by David Paulidis many people and children vanish in our national parks instantly without a trace without a sound. It's a unexplainable phenomenon that is happening. And human abduction, animal attacks and accidental incidents are ruled out.
@@crystaltheo8494 I was thinking the same thing millions of people don't care or want all the kids that don't have no one I can't stand people who are like this crazy person who made up this cold lie they make me sick
Does not take a rocket scientist to figure this one out. The family is sketchy as hell. The father is putting on a show and enjoys hearing himself talk. Came across this behavior too many times in my life to think otherwise. Sadly the most simple explanation is usually the right one in this instance. God bless the little boy
The grandfather said that he saw the boy go after his parents that's why he thought the toddler was with them. He certainly didn't make sure of it. Had someone been supervising that little boy he would still be alive. An unsupervised child near WATER often ends up drowned. In fact that is what i believe happened. They hid the body because neglecting your child is cause for prison.
Children have vanished in national parks more often than you think, even when near their parents. Cases like that of Dennis Lloyd Martin who vanished while playing near his family...he remains missing for over 45 years now and no trace of him was found even when search dogs were brought in. Of course it's easy to suspect the parents as soon as a child goes missing but the fact is, not all are guilty in these strange circumstances. If you know David Paulides' books Missing 411, you'll know so many children have mysteriously vanished in the wilderness. Some are never found, some are found dead in miles away locations that are not possible for a child to get to in that specific time-frame or area, some are found with missing clothing and no shoes and with strange injuries. Children that are found alive are again in miles away locations with no memory of what happened or are too young to say where they went. Something else and unexplained is definitely going on...
Angel Mum well sure, but let that be a lesson to everyone: if you think someone else is looking after the kid bloody well go and check! When you assume things, we end up with situations like this.
Well They are innocent the police and the fbi cleared them !!! Something you're not qualified to do ... But all your doing is judging a book by its cover smh you are something else 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
@@GudJonnyCakes Not having enough evidence to charge them is not clearing them. They killed him and covered it up. They’re sociopaths. We can smell our own.
His mother never shed one real tear, appeared to be their physically but not emotionally or mentally. Her demeanor, body language, inability to even look at the camera or the interviewers added into a failed lie detector test is enough for me to believe she either killed him or he died due to her being neglectful. Either way, she knows what happened to him and has moved on before anyone else even gave up looking. She spent more time focused on her relationships than she did on her missing son- unless she knows he isn’t missing, and doesn’t want him to be found. Guilty!
I'm inclined to agree with you. But what bothers me is if one of those four did kill the little guy, what was the motive? Can't seem to wrap my head around it.
As a mum, you know who you've left your child with, you make sure of that. You don't just think your kid is with so and so, you know. Just like Casey Anthony, could never honestly answer who she left her child with as she was the last person to see child alive.
they need to go further out. it seems to me that if someone wanted their child to go "missing" at a camp site they would have them get "lost" miles from the actual spot they would report him missing from, just to make sure searchers wouldn't find him. look in other places. I truly believe the parents did it.
I lost my husband and our 7 yr old son in a drowning accident in 1997. Happened in front of our 11yo daughter who was alone with them. It was 2 weeks after my dad died of cancer....if I thought my son was lost out there and could be found....‘I would have died trying to find my baby out there before giving up ! It was all I could do to not throw myself in the grave with my baby let alone leaving the area where he disappeared !
Yes. You are right. They could have driven him miles away and killed him. They searched close to the camp site because they believed the family that he must have wandered off.
@@utoobjunkie4902 Good luck with that. After the initial search the parents are removed from the search so as to not mislead or tamper with potential evidence.
As a mother, you know who you leave your child with, you make sure of it. Who did she say she left the child with. They're all pointing the finger at each other.
The campground was in an open field...how could the adults lose sight of him? It's not like they were in dense forest. Were there other campers at that campground that could come forward to say they actually saw a little boy there that day? Makes me wonder if that child was ever there.
@@edwardalamo2507 They are innocent the police and the fbi cleared them !!! Something you're not qualified to do ... But all your doing is judging a book by its cover smh you are something else 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
@@luxste They are innocent the police and the fbi cleared them !!! Something you're not qualified to do ... But all your doing is judging a book by its cover smh you are something else 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
I don't get it. Didn't they say something like the mother could show them the grave but she just couldn't go on and talk about it? So, what's that all about?
as an officer I would ask: who of the adults had to pay attention on the child? A 2 years old, in the wilderness, near water, wild animals,...I would keep in my eyes 60min/h!
If you take a 2 yr old camping, you need to make sure that if you leave him with someone that person is very clear that they should be watching him. If the parents go off exploring, ask if they're taking the baby with them. There's so much careless parenting and suspicious behavior in this case.
Omg my son when he was 5 yrs old almost got lost in the woods, while hanging out in a park, my sister was supposed to be watching him, omg thank God we found him, i was frantic my uncle wife told me i turned white, while looking for him, i will never forget that day
They took him to the little mountain country store Stanton Junction in Leare..on July 10 That was with his parents they got him some candy and breakfast. It was on store cam
If you’ll notice, the boy they waited around for to help build their alibi said “as far as I know”...referencing to whether the baby was in the back seat.
I feel the same. Ali really circumstantial but a mix of gut feeling and the fact that the jacket and toys are found in the apartment is hard to explain
The father actually cries in the interviews. The mom? Where are the tears? No psychologist will tell you to take a polygraph. You're more likely to be accused when you're innocent than to have it catch you if you're guilty. *_That's why the courts don't allow their results as evidence._* If the cops ever ask you to take a polygraph, don't do it.
They are innocent the police and the fbi cleared them !!! Something you're not qualified to do ... But all your doing is judging a book by its cover smh you are something else 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
If i was the mother of a missing child and a news crew came to get my story I wouldn't be just sitting there, quite head down like she is, I would be getting my story out there and plead for the safe return of my child.
Open this up and get new eyes on this case, it should have been solved, you have the dead beat PENNER investigating this and he should retire, he can barely talk, you have to ask yourself, did he have a brain injury??? He has to think too long to answer a simple question, practically slurs his words, makes statements he can’t back up when asked to, Please get rid of this guy and put a person knowledgeable on how to interrogate and find justice for this adorable boy.
The truth the truth I feel once he ran once he fell once it was a go everyone did like the did for Natalie wood waited too long to call too long to come up with story too long because of many factors but sad sad. Sad a toddler can get farther than you think
okay i'm only one minute into this video and the mom is giving me weird vibes. it seems as if though she's purposely avoiding the camera and the sunglasses kinda put me off....any updates on this? I got a vibe they're involved in this poor boy's disappearance.
cyn .... I too felt something odd off of the Mother soon as I saw her, soon after the baby had disappeared and was reported to rescue. I would even go as far as to say that I think that somehow she is involved with her child’s disappearance ... I didn’t like the man, Issac, sprawled on the corner of the sofa, I felt that there was something odd, shifty, about him. For such a young child to have gone missing I felt he was too detached, as if he really couldn’t care, or didn’t want to be involved one iota, does he know something ?? .. As this case is proving difficult to resolve, why don’t all concerned bring in a psychic, if this had been done at the beginning the police, FBI would’ve found this tiny boy either alive or, I feel-already was not alive ....
Gordon Bricker .. being psychic is not necessarily occultism, I have been psychic ALL my life and I’m not into occultism. It’s always been a natural for me so you must have religious blinkers on not to at least find out re being psychic ... however, we are not here to discuss being “psychic” .. psychics do a very valuable job, most have proved to have been very helpful in helping various American police forces in their searches to do with murder/disappearance cases when leads/information has/have reached a dead end or dried up .. without them tuning in to the energies of the case, be it murder or disappearance etc, some would never have been solved leaving relatives/loved ones/friends in limbo with no closure and worst of all, no answers ..... AND the guilty would’ve quite possibly gone on to perpetrate more crimes that could be equally fatal .....
@@cosm1cstar Hi, the Word of GOD strongly condemns it: www.gotquestions.org/psychics-Christian.html Even the devil can "heal" and "help" but at a cost: your soul! My mom was into spiritism and occultism, I don't know if she became a born again Christian on her deathbed …. so sad... Please repent and give your life to JESUS while there is still time, judgement is coming soon - the 7year Tribulation is right around the corner. Please don't miss the rapture or your won't get a 2nd chance... Dr. Ron Rhodes on end times chronology christinprophecy.org/sermons/ron-rhodes-on-end-times-chronology/
What kind of dogs were they using? I'm sure a few bloodhounds would have been better than people on horses honestly bloodhounds are more reliable than people's eyes my first thought would have been to ask for bloodhounds, and the mother BARELY looks up 90% of the video (suspicious?) why haven't they interviewed the grandfather further either?
If that was my son I would be crying and pleading for anybody that knows anything ...i would go to the moon and back for my kids...i hope they find him...🙏🙏🙏
Because he seems more upset than she does. It was her father who said he was watching the child when he disappeared. The dad could be covering for her if she harmed the boy.
Nop. Dad is too talkative to be innocent. Rather i think the dad did it after discovering the mum wanted to move on with another man. I think the mum knows and feels guilty or was pressured into not saying anything. She is too quiet becoz she really cant say anything.
Don’t you think it’s weird when the person said to the grandfather don’t u think Jessica and deorr could of done it he just said there’s no evidence like think about it if someone said to your parents do u think (you) did it they would be like no way no they loved their son blah blah blah not just there’s no evidence hmmmmm
So many things wrong here. The 911 call was telling. No sense of urgency or panic in the mother's voice. The fact that both parents failed multiple lie detector tests, and the mother's behavior; especially body language during press conference (looking down the entire time) ..doesn't pass the smell test.
Mamasgotabrandnewbag 57 It's a poor idea to be yelling and screaming when you call 911. You want to make sure the dispatcher can understand you. It's best in any emergency to stay calm.
...everything you mentioned here is either ''witchery'' Lie Detector test can't be submitted into a court of Law because they cannot detect Lies, or anything else.. and no one should ever take one... the Mothers urgency is YOUR assumption, not mine, I believe she was trying to plainly state the situation where they could get there as fast as possible and I heard quivering and this is my assumptions ..I never seen one thing accept a sadness and quietness from her everyone has different ways of dealing .. not everyone would be like you and be squalling and in the floor putting on a show for TV they might clam up when on TV.. The smell test is more on you in my opinion .. you're the type who sends innocent people to Jail for believing in Witch craft.
Cathy Veal Very well said. The assumption of innocence is a myth. It's guilty till proven innocent. I try my best to hold back judgment and put myself in the other person's shoes and at the very least, I acknowledge that in stressful situations everyone reacts differently, not to mention alot of times the person is still in shock.
I don't know what's wrong with the majority of people here but you can clearly hear the mothers voice shaking at 911 call. She just tries to keep it together .
there is no way in he'll four people can loose a child with big boots on hes not going to get far. if the parents didn't do it they would have never left that camp ground. if you can't take care of your child phone someone. poor little guy...
I'm watching about this on ID channel the mom just looks like she did it ... She looks mor annoyed & mad that she has to deal with this ... Some girls don't deserve kids I sware
Lisa Domagala That was very traumatic just to read! I can't imagine how you must have felt. You're absolutely correct though. That woman took your son on a bike ride that late at night and supposedly "lost track of time"? Doesn't make sense. Once it started getting dark out I would have said we better get you home. It's getting late! For that woman to claim she lost track of time is just not believable to me. At any rate, you're definitely not crazy for calling the police and panicking. Too many bad things happen every day at the hands of sickos! Always better to be safe than sorry. Don't feel guilty though. Your son was at the age where they do stuff like that. They wander off with friends. You can't have your eyes on them every second. You can run to the bathroom real quick and they'll be gone the second you close that bathroom door. Lol I understand what you're saying though. I'm glad everything turned out ok and that your son is safe and sound. That woman was a nut!
@Lisa Domagala omg i was crying so hard but. . . Ya that would be scarey as ever. I am so glad your babys home ☺☺. that was the greatest story ever. . . but uh Ya, why wouldn't you be upset !!! of course you would want to pass out and die. that's aful.
Lisa Domagala well of course I HAD to respond LISA!! Lol😁 Don’t feel one iota of sorrow. I too had that experience and it’s on this thread if you want to read it - about my toddler wandering away in the blink of an eye. My heart was racing reading your comment as well. I know that familiar feeling of dread that you so distinctly described...as well as the utter euphoria when your child was found safe & sound. Our stories ended well. *i do want to acknowledge though that a particular horror re-emerged when my son became an adult. He joined the Army 2 weeks after his 18th birthday in 2003. 2 combat missions in an infantry unit. I nearly fell apart completely from utter terror. He’s out of the military now. Riddled with PTSD issues as well as loss of hearing and shrapnel scars. But it’s just a reminder. You’re always going to be a parent. Some responsibilities do fall away when they turn 18 but being there for them, loving unconditionally...and worrying never go away. If they do- you’re not doing something right. Peace 😁🦋
One of the parents killed him and the other is covering for him/her. If the little boy had been lost, they would have found them. A two and a half year old cannot go very far. I would be screaming, going crazy if my kid was missing.
The last thing on my mind would be a new relationship, FFS. The last effing thing. The *ONLY* thing would be my missing kiddo and I would be heartbroken. My boys are grown up and I still feel that way.
I agree I don’t think he’s involved but I think he was the perfect individual for them to take with them bc he wouldn’t notice or pay attention to anything strange happening.
I followed this from the first day DeOrr was missing and believed the parents. I now believe they're involved in his disappearance. I think something tragic happen to Little Man.I hope some day one of them tell the truth and they find the little boy so he can rest in peace.
The more I watch this is makes my stomach turn. The officers involved in this case are more upset and concerned about baby Deor than his parents and family. They truly seem heart broken as they are trying to force out tears.
They didn’t try hard enough! They need to get on this and interrogate them thoroughly, it’s so obvious they are lying! Put someone new on this case obviously Idaho doesn’t know what they are doing!
I live just a couple hours away from here. Everyone here knows the parents are involved. Everything that happened during and after is extremely suspicious. People here are heart broken over this little boy and want him found. Nothing makes sense in this case. Every season people go looking for him. Such a sad story. The truth will come out!!
I'm gonna starte praying over this How long ago did this happen It's tearing me up that so many parents are either doing drugs or drinking in excess... They may or may not be killing these little one on purpose but when they are starved to death uou know they are just sorry trash. I've never heard about this child but I know eventually he will be found. So everyone thinks it's the parent? Why? Can you educate me so I know how to pray better. Please?
To the parents of this sweet boy, You better to tell the truth and tell everyone where his body is . There's alot of loving caring people and families who would have loved to have him and all you had to do was give him to a loving family and caring family even if someone was to as me to raise a baby i would never turn it down but you do need to let people know what you did.
They are innocent the police and the fbi cleared them !!! Something you're not qualified to do ... But all your doing is judging a book by its cover smh you are something else 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
The police cleared Ted Bundy too, we know how that ended, the police overall are way too stupid, they have no experience what so ever, put John Douglas on this, He knows what he is doing!!
Has there been any update to this? I believe the parents need investigated. The mother will not make eye contact! She keeps her head down in every interview. It just seems to me they've lied from the beginning.
I have searched on Google and sad to say I couldn't find anything. I did find another little boy who's body was found close to his home. I believe that the parents were suspect's.
They are innocent the police and the fbi cleared them !!! Something you're not qualified to do ... But all your doing is judging a book by its cover smh you are something else 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Their constant praise of police in interviews is extremely concerning, think about it..... they are praising police for failing to find their son!!...This is not expected innocent people feel let down and angry at the police, the police themselves wouldn't expect praise for failing to find him... the only reason any parent would praise police for failing, is if they want the police to fail because failure to find him, gets them off.
I don’t have to think about it, I’ve lived it. Fucking small town Idaho sheriffs and their higher than average incidence of DV? Nothing to see here Krischelle Whitnah
All this adults look very suss! who lets a 2 year old outta their sight...I suppose we will never find out the truth...but everyone knows there was foul play but can`t prove it...
The private investigator the Kunz family hired quit the case because he said he felt the parents were lying and felt charges needed to be filed against them.
We had a 4 year old go missing last Thursday in the Forest here in Oregon. I heard the call on the Scanner, his Dad was out wood cutting. He was found with in 20 minuets. He was a little guy that wandered off a bit far. Good outcome. Poor baby 😢
I believe all four adults had something to do with the disappearance. The mother probably killed the little boy and to protect her , the others are keeping quiet. There's just no way there's no possible leads.
Definitely A New York Thang why would Isaac, who just met the mom for the first time the day before, want to protect her and lie for her? That doesn't make sense to me.
We know the sheriff thats been on this case, that little boy was NEVER at that campground. He never left Idaho Falls...he was killed or missing before they took the last minute camping trip
you dont know that at all! just bcuz she isnt looking at the camera doesnt mean that she is guilty. actually those who are guilty usually suck up the camera time and love it! examples would be diane downs and susan smith. watch their camera times! they are all over it loving the attention. i think that she is depressed cuz she doesnt have her baby. you dont know that she is guilty just as much as i dont know she innocent. she might feel like she failed since he is missing. alot of people dont believe that sometimes it is people other than the parents. maybe you both are too young to remember the case of polly klass? polly was taken from her own home, from her own room during a sleep over where two friends were staying with her! her mother was asleep in her room and the baby sister was asleep in another. yet a man came into her house while the mom and baby slept and abducted polly at knife point in front of her two friends. its a shame if the two friends werent there then the mom would have been blamed. her father mark klass is an advocate for abducted and murdered kids and he always has to remind people of the fact that just bcuz the parents were around doesnt mean that they are guilty. he has said numerous times on news quote "lets not forget my daughter polly klass was abducted from her home, from her bedroom while her mother slept just down the hallway, these thiings do happen and yet people still dont want to believe that they do". its so true! there are plenty of kids who have been abducted by strangers and yet the focus has always been on the parents and thats what stalls the investigation. dont forget the little newborn baby kamiyah mobley was abducted from the hospital yet the cops interogated her mother shanara mobley for hours asking her what she did with her newborn baby. for years suspicion was put on shanara until finally 19yrs later along comes kamiyah and the real abductor gloria williams was finally sentenced to prison for 18yrs, every year she had kamiyah and kept her from her mom and dad. im just simply saying that no one but deorr and whomever took him knows what happened! private investigators can and always will act like they know the real truth but he doesnt know bcuz if he did then where is deorr? where is his body? his remains? this pi knows nothing but he wishes he did!
She is obviously crying hard. I can't even look at people when I'm just crying because I'm sad that my husband hurt my feelings, much less having to look at strangers and a television camera while I'm crying. You don't know what she's going through, so you shouldn't judge her. I wouldn't ever accuse a parent of something so heinous without fucking proof, just because "she won't look up", get the hell out of here, you're ridiculous.
I highly doubt he wondered off or someone kidnapped him way out there... I think the parents of the grandpa/friend had something to do with us... the mother didn’t sound worried or frantic on the phone with dispatch. And she never once looked up at the camera during the interview. But WHY would they do such a thing and then cry about it afterwards & make people look for months?! So sad 😭
Okay the first private investigator obviously found out some information causing him to withdraw from the case and state that the couple was lying. Then the second one they hire gets fired after he makes a statement that the parents are involved? How obvious is that? I feel so so sad for DeOrr and his family, everybody except the parents that is. So terribly obvious they're lying the whole time. I hope one day the FBI or police finally find some evidence and throw that in the faces of the parents. So many wasted resources looking for this child when the parents know exactly where he is. My heart 😭 those videos and pictures of him..how, just how?
He probably never made it to the campsite. That’s why it was okay that so many volunteers searched the campgrounds because the parents knew he wasn’t there anyways.
The parents hired 2 private investigation firms and both have quit and say they believe the parents were directly responsible for his disappearance. No one's stories match. The 3 family members are quick to try to blame the odd non family member along on the trip. Who by all accounts probably shouldn't have even been there. I believe one or both of the parents are responsible. Most likely Jessica. It's also highly probable that DeOrr was never even at that camp site. This link has a 6 part investigation series that's more up to date and far more inclusive. Give it a watch. www.ktvb.com/article/news/investigations/little-man-lost/suspects-named-in-disappearance-of-deorr-kunz-little-man-lost-episode-4/277-523825527
heart broke when I heard little baby deorr saying I llove you to his mommy what a sweet baby! after reading more on this case I find it odd that the couple not only broke up but mother remarried !! I personally would not be interested in a man marrying or moving on so soon after this sort of tragedy . marriage suggests happiness and hope for the future don't know how you could feel that with your little baby missing and no explanation as to what happened! Probably some guy came along and felt sorry for her but why did deorr senior and her break up? the pressure stress and scrutiny or did the dad hurt this baby and she knows it but won't tell???
A lot of couples do break up after losing a child, whether the child dies or goes missing. I'm not making a judgment on their guilt or innocence at this point, just stating a well known fact.
You can't tell much from the brief clips of the parents here, but take a look at the unedited interview they did, it's here: th-cam.com/video/mwM1oG3z358/w-d-xo.html I'm certainly no expert, but the interview seems...odd. They're given precious time on state-wide tv to talk about their son, & they talk about everything BUT him. When asked at the beginning to explain what happened, for example, they start their story with the 911 call. What?! Your child is missing & you don't start with that? The interviewer has to actually prompt them again about halfway thru the interview to explain what actually happened at the campsite. The husband is doing everything he can to avoid actually talking about the events or his son. He's got an opportunity to tell tens of thousands of people about his son, what he was wearing, etc, but instead he drones on & on & on about the helicopter & it's night-vision, & the lousy cell reception, & the social media rumours. Really? That's where his focus is? Those are the important details for him? The couple seems off. They are both pushing hard with the abduction narrative, but I think they know 'way more than they're saying.
Why would you leave your baby in the care of your grandfather who you know has dementia???? Something stinks about this case. Even their own investigators concluded that the parents are lying and that they know what happened to their child, especially the mother. The fact that she started a new romance and got married less than a year later speaks volumes. The last thing on an innocent mother's mind would be dating and a wedding.
make someone smile I thought hat too, about the grandfather having dementia!! Remember in the interview that was on the true crime show about it, last week-- the grandfather kept twisting his story and when they asked where the boy was, while with him, he said, well they'll have different stories from what I tell you, and wouldn't say anymore!! Makes no sense to say, " I thought he was with the parents." He may not have even had dementia!! Sounds like the parents had it all figured out ahead of time * and used the grandfather and his friend as pawns!! They thought, the more confusion, the better!!
You'd be surprised... A grandfather with dementia would be preferable to some of the alternatives. My mother left me with her boyfriends child molesting (yes, it was known he had a predilection for little girls) father as a sitter. Apparently having a young child is frowned upon at parties and he was quite amenable to providing childcare for her. I'd pick forgetful grandpa over pedo grandpa anyday.
U know damn well when they went to the store the night before they dumped him on the way back. Claimed he walked off at the campsite knowing the cops would never find him there
If that was my child I would have moved to that location. I'm not going home without them. My life would have been inspecting every inch of that area and surrounding areas. Anyone who visited the area I would have investigated them as well.
Spoken like a TRUE MOTHER!!
I TOTALLY AGREE..TENT, PORTA-POTTY, I WOULD HAVE LIVED THERE TILL I FOUND HIM!!!
As a Family of 4 we once went to Sesame Place, In the Computer Lab they have, (the computers thankfully were NOT working that day ), only some Arcade style games were active. There were about 20 people in the building. My husband & I were playing Hungry Hippos with our 4 year old & I was holding my 18 month old. I put her down, and told my husband to pick her up bc I have severe problems with broken discs in my back. He didn't hear me, & I looked down for a moment bc my son was excited about the game..within a span of 3 minutes my 18month old was gone. I screamed at my husband, who freaked out, I immediately told the employees to block the 2 doors. I told everyone in the place to please not move for a moment as my young daughter was missing. I have a very loud voice when I am frightened and I can be VERY BOSSY!! It only took 5 minutes to find my little one who was inside a car driver arcade game, actually hiding from us..thinking it was funny..We did play hide and seek in our home (Something I REALLY REGRETTED AFTER THIS), So it all worked out, but I had Moms coming up to me asking me, how did I know what to do?? I asked them How do you NOT??? PS That 18 month old is now a beautiful 28 year old, who laughs about this story to this day.
@@borninthewrongtime6449 I am SO happy you found your little one. I was on the edge of my seat reading your reply. I know the room starts spinning.
@@foster9062 Thanks..it was so frightening at the time. We packed up the kids, went back to the hotel & seriously discussed whether we were gonna go back the next day. We did just get some pool time, then a quick Sesame Parade & we were outta there..I was never so happy to be home!!! My husband passed away 4 years ago and truthfully he was the most amazing father, my kids (not kids now...adults) miss him desperately..Of course, he took my heart with him when he left and there are days when I just wish I was there with him...but I know what it would do to my sweet kids..I adore them both and they are amazing. So, I talk to him all the time & watch for signs & if I concentrate real hard..I imagine I can still hear his heartbeat like I used to, when I would rest my head on his chest..😇💖💔
Mrs Foster yup me to o would be arguing and looking at someone to blame I would freak and look in every inch of that place even if it cost my own life
I agree with you. I would not go home I would not leave that forest without my baby boy. I have three and they all look like this angel and it breaks my heart.
Ok come on!! That’s four separate entities that are saying that the parents have lied. 1) The local sheriff 2) The FBI 3) the first private investigator 4) the second private investigator, and both of the investigators hired by the family.
“When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.”
-Sherlock Holmes
It's just so weird how the mother got re-married like 8 months into her son's disappearance...she's shady af. I think she did something to get rid of deorr so she could start a new life with her new man.
I know I wouldn't be ready to get married 8 months after my baby went missing. That's weird as fuck I don't like to judge but that seems so bizzare to have your mind set on something like getting married that soon. I would still be an emotional wreck I have a little 2 and a half year old boy right now and there's no way I just couldn't.
great analogy. best comment ive seen so far. doesnt make sense
These young parents who kill kids so they can have freedom and their unemployment money to themselves are all the same. Like Casey Anthony the loser whose little girl was in her way. The kids always get the blame for these POS sleeping around to have them in the first place.
Especially when she'd already given her first 2 kids away to their father after getting with Vernal and having DeOrr. So there certainly seems to be a pattern here.
Yea I thought it was very odd how she would never talk and never look up at the camera. That's ur kid, most mothers would be pleading with the public for their child. I think both parents were having affairs. The way they acted around each other and the way he always did the talking made me think that something else was going on too.
did all the adults just FORGET they brought a 2yr old kid with them? Suspicious parents......and that dude on the couch - WEIRD.
Very creepy and strange
@@binkyfaith seems a simple minded person
Yep
@@BTmomma yep
The couch guy does seem strange, but not in a "guilty criminal" type of way.
I really think the mother (if not both parents) did something wrong. The whole thing is too weird.
The mom in particular has been caught in lies. She's clearly hiding the facts.
Not to be mean but how exactly do you lose a two year old in a family camping situation? He's two. His legs aren't that long...he couldn't be that fast...and in oversized cowboy boots.
Elana McNutt check out missing 411 by David paulidis . This is unexplainable phenomenon. Children and adults vanish instantly without a sound or trace in our national parks and forests it's bazaar. May not apply to this case but look into I'm sure you'll be mindblown
Elana McNutt. You don't. I believe that beautiful child was never at the camp site, not alive anyway. These people are lying, they keep changing their stories, they have both failed multiple lie detectors and their both going to end up in the electric chair with the grandfather at their side.
Elana McNutt , my thought exactly.
jeanette Hinds I hope you are never on a jury. You need actual solid evidence that proves a person guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, to convict someone and you're ready to fry them just on your suspicions.
Robert Klimeck. Yes, and the evidence is there, waiting for someone to find it.
Parents did it because the jacket and toys they claimed deor had that day were found at an abandoned apartment that the parents were evicted from for not paying rent. Lies upon lies. Dont believe crocodile tears
I hope someone knocks them off since their lies about taking him camping will help them get away with it.
And also this @ about 14:55
Strange guy w/ the Grandfather: Yea, I think there could have been an accident.
Interviewer: Do you think it was kidnapping?
Strange guy: blah blah blah... Yea, there could have been an accident.
To me, that says it all.
I agree mother and father need prosecuted
But the grand pa is involved too then?
Kid dies from an accident, neglect, abuse, or whatever. Parents fear being blamed. So they bury him somewhere and then stage his disappearance.way out in the woods far from where he really is.
The Sheriff believes he is dead and that he was killed. He says the parents have painted themselves into a corner when they said he was wearing floppy boots that he could not walk in. The boots have never been found. The parents are suspects but they have not been charged yet because they don't want to jeopardize the case yet. He said the parents failed multiple polygraph tests especially when asked if they know where he is!
Rarely does that happen. It's rare for someone to admit to what they did.
Hffk
@@keithturner2207 what does this mean please?
Polygraphs mean jack in court and in other videos the results were said to be inconclusive.
Those faded "Missing" posters broke my heart. It is as though DeOrr is frozen in time. So sad.
i don't want to speak ill on anyone that said i just can't get over that man on the couch. some kind of oddness there that didn't sit well with me idk what it is or why.
April London I reckon he knows more than he is saying, you hear him several times referring to an accident and very hesitant on the kidnapping question.
April London There is something very strange about him.
Me too...a gut feeling about him....have to say though the grandfathers story makes no sense either, he's supposed to be supervising a two year old and lets him wander off to find his parents alone in this remote area with a reservoir nearby? Who would do that??
SAme here...My CREEP-DAR was pinging over that guy too.
I had the same weird feeling about him on the couch something isnt right about him
Unfortunately, I believe the parents are involved. Her 911 call does not sound like a panicked or distraught mother, it sounds very fake, as though she's trying to sound upset. She says "um" 3 different times I think it was. If you realize your small child is missing, you're not going to call 911 and say "umm, well I think... um, I think that- um that my child is missing?" F that. Also, how often do we see her looking up at the camera or the faces of those in the crowds? Once, twice maybe? A mother who wants her child found is going to make eye contact with as many people as possible, look them in the eye and tell people how badly you need your child back, please help us. Not sit in silence staring at the ground. Lastly, it's very rare for an individual to fail a polygraph test MULTIPLE times if they are in fact telling the truth, it just doesn't happen. For the police and 2 separate, unrelated private investigators to all point the finger back at the parents says a great deal right there. Just doesn't add up to me at all. I only hope that the poor little guy didn't have to suffer, whatever was done with him.
She sounded scared and in shock to me, hence the hesitance (as in not wanting to believe what she is fearing). I think the call is totally credible. Go back and re-listen.
Not everyone who doesn't look a person in the eyes is lying either. Sometimes too much eye contact can mean a person is lying. It could be that she doesn't want to look up because she doesn't want to have a complete meltdown or doesn't want to sob inconsolable during the interview. The call itself sounded valid and not really made up. I myself think they probably did it and once everything blew up to this point they probably feel that if they were to change the story to it being an accident that they'd be found guilty due to the longevity spent sticking to tart story alone. If he was abducted, he may not have been able to scream if he was grabbed from behind and his mouth covered. There's too many factors people don't take into consideration. If he wasn't found by now, chances are he was possibly buried, they killed him elsewhere and everyone there was in on it, or even that he could have fallen in a hard to see hole unless you were almost right on top of it. Either way though, it probably won't be an easily solved case for quite a while.
I disagree! I think she was terrified.
I always love it when people say that they know exactly what they would do or feel in a situation that they've never been in.
Justine Seitzinger i didn't see tears...they killed that lil boy
Who leaves a two year old with an old man on oxygen and another odd man they don’t even know?!
Exactly.
something not right... if he got lost wondered off he wouldve been cryn screaming for his parents they would've herd him....somebody did something to him.....
Absolutely not true. We get children lost in the bush semi-regularly they wander off and normally die of dehydration after a few days. They don't cry or if they do they aren't heard until someone comes upon them. Thats not to say the parents didn't do something to him. His remains should have been found by now unless someone had actually hidden them.
Curshala Pernell parents killed him.
Curshala Pernell look into Missing 411 by David Paulidis many people and children vanish in our national parks instantly without a trace without a sound. It's a unexplainable phenomenon that is happening. And human abduction, animal attacks and accidental incidents are ruled out.
+daughterofKing1. the kid wandered ff
He could have wandered off far enough that nobody heard him. Or one or the other parent killed him.
Poor baby...if you don't want him..millions out there do...
I agree100%
Iam with u👍
What? What if they accidentally killed him etc.
Why are so many kids in foster care and group homes? You all are nothing but talk. Not action. Shame on you.
@@crystaltheo8494 I was thinking the same thing millions of people don't care or want all the kids that don't have no one I can't stand people who are like this crazy person who made up this cold lie they make me sick
Does not take a rocket scientist to figure this one out. The family is sketchy as hell. The father is putting on a show and enjoys hearing himself talk. Came across this behavior too many times in my life to think otherwise. Sadly the most simple explanation is usually the right one in this instance. God bless the little boy
You could be retarded and figure this one out!
They need to investigate the four adults again. The kid vanished, but the adults are fine and safe? That's not right. Very suspicious to me.
LaoSoftware sounds like that is all they have done...investigate the adults
Well there is NO proof he was ever at the campground. The Sheriff said the parents have failed multiple polygraphs and are not being truthful.
The grandfather said that he saw the boy go after his parents that's why he thought the toddler was with them. He certainly didn't make sure of it. Had someone been supervising that little boy he would still be alive. An unsupervised child near WATER often ends up drowned. In fact that is what i believe happened. They hid the body because neglecting your child is cause for prison.
Children have vanished in national parks more often than you think, even when near their parents. Cases like that of Dennis Lloyd Martin who vanished while playing near his family...he remains missing for over 45 years now and no trace of him was found even when search dogs were brought in. Of course it's easy to suspect the parents as soon as a child goes missing but the fact is, not all are guilty in these strange circumstances. If you know David Paulides' books Missing 411, you'll know so many children have mysteriously vanished in the wilderness. Some are never found, some are found dead in miles away locations that are not possible for a child to get to in that specific time-frame or area, some are found with missing clothing and no shoes and with strange injuries. Children that are found alive are again in miles away locations with no memory of what happened or are too young to say where they went. Something else and unexplained is definitely going on...
Lao- the parents did everyone in idaho knows fuck we gridded every inch in. 10 mile radius.
There were 4 adults and nobody watched the baby?
Yeah these people aren't exactly splitting atoms.
Each may of thought the others were watching him
They're lying. One day hopefully one of the other ones will fess up. None of them have a soul if they think that baby deserved to die.
I know right
Angel Mum well sure, but let that be a lesson to everyone: if you think someone else is looking after the kid bloody well go and check! When you assume things, we end up with situations like this.
The fact that mom and dad's story kept changing is enough for me know this case has never been a mystery.
Well They are innocent the police and the fbi cleared them !!! Something you're not qualified to do ... But all your doing is judging a book by its cover smh you are something else 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
@@GudJonnyCakes Not having enough evidence to charge them is not clearing them. They killed him and covered it up. They’re sociopaths. We can smell our own.
As well as her demeanor during the 911 call
@@GudJonnyCakesBalfour Beatty Mormons covering up.
He was sacrificed.
His mother never shed one real tear, appeared to be their physically but not emotionally or mentally. Her demeanor, body language, inability to even look at the camera or the interviewers added into a failed lie detector test is enough for me to believe she either killed him or he died due to her being neglectful. Either way, she knows what happened to him and has moved on before anyone else even gave up looking. She spent more time focused on her relationships than she did on her missing son- unless she knows he isn’t missing, and doesn’t want him to be found. Guilty!
something are going on but it sho ain't care
they might have dugged a grave for him that's why they are not worried the grave someone saw
I'm inclined to agree with you. But what bothers me is if one of those four did kill the little guy, what was the motive? Can't seem to wrap my head around it.
Mom sniffles but there’s no tears.
People deal with things differently
Shana Tinnin Reminds me of the Korman case in Portland, Oregon, 9-10 years ago. So sad.
parents dont look at the camera especially the mother... they did something to the kid. clearly was the parents.
They got rid of his body the same day he went missing
they lost him on purpose, no mom would just sit there and not get up and look endlessly.
You said it right, NO “MOM” Would!! But she clearly wasn’t a mother/mom! Pure evil, pure trash to say the least!😔
As a mum, you know who you've left your child with, you make sure of that. You don't just think your kid is with so and so, you know. Just like Casey Anthony, could never honestly answer who she left her child with as she was the last person to see child alive.
Keep up the good work Nate searching for missing kids!
they need to go further out. it seems to me that if someone wanted their child to go "missing" at a camp site they would have them get "lost" miles from the actual spot they would report him missing from, just to make sure searchers wouldn't find him.
look in other places. I truly believe the parents did it.
I lost my husband and our 7 yr old son in a drowning accident in 1997. Happened in front of our 11yo daughter who was alone with them. It was 2 weeks after my dad died of cancer....if I thought my son was lost out there and could be found....‘I would have died trying to find my baby out there before giving up ! It was all I could do to not throw myself in the grave with my baby let alone leaving the area where he disappeared !
Yes. You are right. They could have driven him miles away and killed him. They searched close to the camp site because they believed the family that he must have wandered off.
@@utoobjunkie4902 Good luck with that. After the initial search the parents are removed from the search so as to not mislead or tamper with potential evidence.
They didn't do it
@@sherrycaraway5663 would have been evidence dumb ass
As a mother, you know who you leave your child with, you make sure of it. Who did she say she left the child with. They're all pointing the finger at each other.
Exactly! He was 2! He should never been sent back to camp with GPop alone let alone GPop was incapacitated!😢
The campground was in an open field...how could the adults lose sight of him? It's not like they were in dense forest. Were there other campers at that campground that could come forward to say they actually saw a little boy there that day? Makes me wonder if that child was ever there.
The cops say no credible witnesses saw the boy at the campground.
He was at the store in town.
Poor baby Deorr. I hope they find you. I'm from Idaho and everyone I know hopes and prays that you are found.
Panic sets in to protect oneself or loved one my guess he accidentally get hold of meth or some other illegal drug
Still praying here in Wichita ks
@@edwardalamo2507 That's exactly what I thought. Based on their mouths, alone, I really do think that meth was involved.
@@edwardalamo2507 They are innocent the police and the fbi cleared them !!! Something you're not qualified to do ... But all your doing is judging a book by its cover smh you are something else 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
@@luxste They are innocent the police and the fbi cleared them !!! Something you're not qualified to do ... But all your doing is judging a book by its cover smh you are something else 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
I don't get it. Didn't they say something like the mother could show them the grave but she just couldn't go on and talk about it? So, what's that all about?
as an officer I would ask:
who of the adults had to pay attention on the child? A 2 years old, in the wilderness, near water, wild animals,...I would keep in my eyes 60min/h!
The father's pleading sounded like a B rated actor, while the mother looked down at the ground. You don't need a polygraph when you lie so poorly
If you take a 2 yr old camping, you need to make sure that if you leave him with someone that person is very clear that they should be watching him. If the parents go off exploring, ask if they're taking the baby with them. There's so much careless parenting and suspicious behavior in this case.
Omg my son when he was 5 yrs old almost got lost in the woods, while hanging out in a park, my sister was supposed to be watching him, omg thank God we found him, i was frantic my uncle wife told me i turned white, while looking for him, i will never forget that day
Did anyone see the baby BEFORE the trip
Animal advocate Voice of innocents the guy on the couch said he was fine in his carseat
Its not to say they may have been to the same location a day or two or week ago with the child and witnesses are confused as to the date
They took him to the little mountain country store Stanton Junction in Leare..on July 10
That was with his parents they got him some candy and breakfast. It was on store cam
If you’ll notice, the boy they waited around for to help build their alibi said “as far as I know”...referencing to whether the baby was in the back seat.
That's a great question
That family knows what really happened to that poor little fella. What a shady bunch of misfits.
What facts do you have to support that? Or just gut feeling?
I feel the same. Ali really circumstantial but a mix of gut feeling and the fact that the jacket and toys are found in the apartment is hard to explain
The father actually cries in the interviews. The mom? Where are the tears?
No psychologist will tell you to take a polygraph. You're more likely to be accused when you're innocent than to have it catch you if you're guilty. *_That's why the courts don't allow their results as evidence._* If the cops ever ask you to take a polygraph, don't do it.
he disappeared before they went two the camp grounds the camp ground is a cover up
They are innocent the police and the fbi cleared them !!! Something you're not qualified to do ... But all your doing is judging a book by its cover smh you are something else 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
@GudJonnyCakes ok, majority of people agree on this case. You're the very minority. 😂
If i was the mother of a missing child and a news crew came to get my story I wouldn't be just sitting there, quite head down like she is, I would be getting my story out there and plead for the safe return of my child.
Let's hope and pray that we finally get some answers and that justice can prevail in this case.
Open this up and get new eyes on this case, it should have been solved, you have the dead beat PENNER investigating this and he should retire, he can barely talk, you have to ask yourself, did he have a brain injury??? He has to think too long to answer a simple question, practically slurs his words, makes statements he can’t back up when asked to, Please get rid of this guy and put a person knowledgeable on how to interrogate and find justice for this adorable boy.
The truth the truth I feel once he ran once he fell once it was a go everyone did like the did for Natalie wood waited too long to call too long to come up with story too long because of many factors but sad sad. Sad a toddler can get farther than you think
Notice the Interview with the guy on coach that was there with Grampa,hes a few fries short of a happy meal.He sais 2-3 times if it was an accident.
paul gray Very true Paul
It just makes him a creepy weirdo unless he's a alien then I would blame him
he's a basket short of yogis picnic
I thought he was a little sketchy also!!!
@@purrcatiper9283 detaching yourself is an alarm.
The mom seems guilty and look how nervous she looks on that sofa with the investigator's interview
okay i'm only one minute into this video and the mom is giving me weird vibes. it seems as if though she's purposely avoiding the camera and the sunglasses kinda put me off....any updates on this? I got a vibe they're involved in this poor boy's disappearance.
cyn .... I too felt something odd off of the Mother soon as I saw her, soon after the baby had disappeared and was reported to rescue. I would even go as far as to say that I think that somehow she is involved with her child’s disappearance ... I didn’t like the man, Issac, sprawled on the corner of the sofa, I felt that there was something odd, shifty, about him. For such a young child to have gone missing I felt he was too detached, as if he really couldn’t care, or didn’t want to be involved one iota, does he know something ?? .. As this case is proving difficult to resolve, why don’t all concerned bring in a psychic, if this had been done at the beginning the police, FBI would’ve found this tiny boy either alive or, I feel-already was not alive ....
@@cosm1cstar No physic, that's occultism/spiritism, they won't escape justice anyways. Leave it to our LORD.
Gordon Bricker .. being psychic is not necessarily occultism, I have been psychic ALL my life and I’m not into occultism. It’s always been a natural for me so you must have religious blinkers on not to at least find out re being psychic ... however, we are not here to discuss being “psychic” .. psychics do a very valuable job, most have proved to have been very helpful in helping various American police forces in their searches to do with murder/disappearance cases when leads/information has/have reached a dead end or dried up .. without them tuning in to the energies of the case, be it murder or disappearance etc, some would never have been solved leaving relatives/loved ones/friends in limbo with no closure and worst of all, no answers ..... AND the guilty would’ve quite possibly gone on to perpetrate more crimes that could be equally fatal .....
@@cosm1cstar Hi, the Word of GOD strongly condemns it: www.gotquestions.org/psychics-Christian.html Even the devil can "heal" and "help" but at a cost: your soul! My mom was into spiritism and occultism, I don't know if she became a born again Christian on her deathbed …. so sad...
Please repent and give your life to JESUS while there is still time, judgement is coming soon - the 7year Tribulation is right around the corner. Please don't miss the rapture or your won't get a 2nd chance... Dr. Ron Rhodes on end times chronology christinprophecy.org/sermons/ron-rhodes-on-end-times-chronology/
@Anne K i think he might be on the spectrum which explains his detachment?
What kind of dogs were they using? I'm sure a few bloodhounds would have been better than people on horses honestly bloodhounds are more reliable than people's eyes my first thought would have been to ask for bloodhounds, and the mother BARELY looks up 90% of the video (suspicious?) why haven't they interviewed the grandfather further either?
If that was my son I would be crying and pleading for anybody that knows anything ...i would go to the moon and back for my kids...i hope they find him...🙏🙏🙏
Why do I feel like dad is innocent but mom is another Casey Anthony?
April Hurt %100 agree, something isn’t right about his mom and the fact that she got married to another man?! I hope I’m wrong and he is found safe
I feel the same
Because he seems more upset than she does. It was her father who said he was watching the child when he disappeared. The dad could be covering for her if she harmed the boy.
It seems like he is covering for her .
Nop. Dad is too talkative to be innocent. Rather i think the dad did it after discovering the mum wanted to move on with another man. I think the mum knows and feels guilty or was pressured into not saying anything. She is too quiet becoz she really cant say anything.
very heart-wrenching story.....darling child obviously killed and hidden. Just made me so sad to see this one. :(
Don’t you think it’s weird when the person said to the grandfather don’t u think Jessica and deorr could of done it he just said there’s no evidence like think about it if someone said to your parents do u think (you) did it they would be like no way no they loved their son blah blah blah not just there’s no evidence hmmmmm
...the amazing thing here is you got 27 Likes.. and we have all these assumptions coming from this group of ''Brains'' LOL God help us all.
Hayley Reed After watching a million of these, that was my take too!
'Could OF done' is in what language?
What I think is weird is that you don't know how to use punctuation...😉😉
do you even grammar?
So many things wrong here. The 911 call was telling. No sense of urgency or panic in the mother's voice. The fact that both parents failed multiple lie detector tests, and the mother's behavior; especially body language during press conference (looking down the entire time) ..doesn't pass the smell test.
Mamasgotabrandnewbag 57 It's a poor idea to be yelling and screaming when you call 911. You want to make sure the dispatcher can understand you. It's best in any emergency to stay calm.
Mamasgotabrandnewbag 57 the press conference was telling something isn't right.
...everything you mentioned here is either ''witchery'' Lie Detector test can't be submitted into a court of Law because they cannot detect Lies, or anything else.. and no one should ever take one... the Mothers urgency is YOUR assumption, not mine, I believe she was trying to plainly state the situation where they could get there as fast as possible and I heard quivering and this is my assumptions ..I never seen one thing accept a sadness and quietness from her everyone has different ways of dealing .. not everyone would be like you and be squalling and in the floor putting on a show for TV they might clam up when on TV.. The smell test is more on you in my opinion .. you're the type who sends innocent people to Jail for believing in Witch craft.
Cathy Veal Very well said. The assumption of innocence is a myth. It's guilty till proven innocent. I try my best to hold back judgment and put myself in the other person's shoes and at the very least, I acknowledge that in stressful situations everyone reacts differently, not to mention alot of times the person is still in shock.
I don't know what's wrong with the majority of people here but you can clearly hear the mothers voice shaking at 911 call. She just tries to keep it together .
Damn their private investigator don't believe them. Prayer going up.
Both of the investigators though they were guilty.
there is no way in he'll four people can loose a child with big boots on hes not going to get far. if the parents didn't do it they would have never left that camp ground. if you can't take care of your child phone someone. poor little guy...
I'm watching about this on ID channel the mom just looks like she did it ... She looks mor annoyed & mad that she has to deal with this ... Some girls don't deserve kids I sware
little Dior ,how come 2 private investigators say parents are lieing , that's sad even the FBI
what was with the grandfather? Wasn't he watching the boy?
´Nancy Benefiel : I was wondering the same thing...
Grandfather could be coveting for his daughter so she won't go to prison. He might be lying that was taking care of the child when he disappeared.
Lisa Domagala That was very traumatic just to read! I can't imagine how you must have felt. You're absolutely correct though. That woman took your son on a bike ride that late at night and supposedly "lost track of time"? Doesn't make sense. Once it started getting dark out I would have said we better get you home. It's getting late! For that woman to claim she lost track of time is just not believable to me. At any rate, you're definitely not crazy for calling the police and panicking. Too many bad things happen every day at the hands of sickos! Always better to be safe than sorry. Don't feel guilty though. Your son was at the age where they do stuff like that. They wander off with friends. You can't have your eyes on them every second. You can run to the bathroom real quick and they'll be gone the second you close that bathroom door. Lol I understand what you're saying though.
I'm glad everything turned out ok and that your son is safe and sound. That woman was a nut!
@Lisa Domagala omg i was crying so hard but. . . Ya that would be scarey as ever. I am so glad your babys home ☺☺. that was the greatest story ever. . . but uh Ya, why wouldn't you be upset !!! of course you would want to pass out and die. that's aful.
Lisa Domagala well of course I HAD to respond LISA!! Lol😁
Don’t feel one iota of sorrow. I too had that experience and it’s on this thread if you want to read it - about my toddler wandering away in the blink of an eye. My heart was racing reading your comment as well. I know that familiar feeling of dread that you so distinctly described...as well as the utter euphoria when your child was found safe & sound.
Our stories ended well.
*i do want to acknowledge though that a particular horror re-emerged when my son became an adult. He joined the Army 2 weeks after his 18th birthday in 2003. 2 combat missions in an infantry unit. I nearly fell apart completely from utter terror. He’s out of the military now. Riddled with PTSD issues as well as loss of hearing and shrapnel scars. But it’s just a reminder. You’re always going to be a parent. Some responsibilities do fall away when they turn 18 but being there for them, loving unconditionally...and worrying never go away. If they do- you’re not doing something right.
Peace 😁🦋
One of the parents killed him and the other is covering for him/her. If the little boy had been lost, they would have found them. A two and a half year old cannot go very far. I would be screaming, going crazy if my kid was missing.
Opiolds like oxycodone is epidemic child would think its candy.
Why marry with in the year?hmmm. You should worry about your baby being found!like no sleep out there 24/7.
I wonder a sincere grieving mother will not marry in years after losing a child this way. My take.
The last thing on my mind would be a new relationship, FFS. The last effing thing. The *ONLY* thing would be my missing kiddo and I would be heartbroken. My boys are grown up and I still feel that way.
Treu that when ma uncle die 24 years ago ma grandmother could not handel it and diden date she die 2 years after him of pain
What spouses say to each other cannot be used in court. If she confessed to her husband it can't be used against her .
@@betornween They Weren't Married,Only Engaged.God Bless All 😇😇🙏🙏💝💝
I agree man on couch seemed off but maybe he is autistic or something but this story don't add up
He pretty much said there was an accident.
I agree I don’t think he’s involved but I think he was the perfect individual for them to take with them bc he wouldn’t notice or pay attention to anything strange happening.
I followed this from the first day DeOrr was missing and believed the parents. I now believe they're involved in his disappearance. I think something tragic happen to Little Man.I hope some day one of them tell the truth and they find the little boy so he can rest in peace.
The more I watch this is makes my stomach turn. The officers involved in this case are more upset and concerned about baby Deor than his parents and family. They truly seem heart broken as they are trying to force out tears.
They didn’t try hard enough! They need to get on this and interrogate them thoroughly, it’s so obvious they are lying! Put someone new on this case obviously Idaho doesn’t know what they are doing!
I live just a couple hours away from here. Everyone here knows the parents are involved. Everything that happened during and after is extremely suspicious. People here are heart broken over this little boy and want him found. Nothing makes sense in this case. Every season people go looking for him. Such a sad story. The truth will come out!!
I'm gonna starte praying over this
How long ago did this happen
It's tearing me up that so many parents are either doing drugs or drinking in excess...
They may or may not be killing these little one on purpose but when they are starved to death uou know they are just sorry trash.
I've never heard about this child but I know eventually he will be found. So everyone thinks it's the parent? Why? Can you educate me so I know how to pray better. Please?
Occult sacrifice!
To the parents of this sweet boy, You better to tell the truth and tell everyone where his body is . There's alot of loving caring people and families who would have loved to have him and all you had to do was give him to a loving family and caring family even if someone was to as me to raise a baby i would never turn it down but you do need to let people know what you did.
They are innocent the police and the fbi cleared them !!! Something you're not qualified to do ... But all your doing is judging a book by its cover smh you are something else 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
@@GudJonnyCakes shut up
The police cleared Ted Bundy too, we know how that ended, the police overall are way too stupid, they have no experience what so ever, put John Douglas on this, He knows what he is doing!!
@@GudJonnyCakesno,they did not clear them,they just didn't have enough evidence to get them.
@@LizP5150 witch means they are cleared
Has there been any update to this? I believe the parents need investigated. The mother will not make eye contact! She keeps her head down in every interview. It just seems to me they've lied from the beginning.
I have searched on Google and sad to say I couldn't find anything.
I did find another little boy who's body was found close to his home. I believe that the parents were suspect's.
@@0817sweetstacy Thank you!
I tend to trust detectives since they know the case inside and out, the details. I hope he gets justice
God be with you little guy. Where ever you are.
they killed him and hid his body, they look very guilty
The mom looks overly guilty to me
Looks mean nothing to a court. Come back when you have evidence other than a image.
They are innocent the police and the fbi cleared them !!! Something you're not qualified to do ... But all your doing is judging a book by its cover smh you are something else 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
@@betornween preach bro
Ping the dads phone some time before his call to 911.
Absolutely heart breaking..please somebody find this little angel, bring him home so he's not alone anymore :(
He keeps stating an accident.
Their constant praise of police in interviews is extremely concerning, think about it..... they are praising police for failing to find their son!!...This is not expected innocent people feel let down and angry at the police, the police themselves wouldn't expect praise for failing to find him... the only reason any parent would praise police for failing, is if they want the police to fail because failure to find him, gets them off.
this!!
I don’t have to think about it, I’ve lived it. Fucking small town Idaho sheriffs and their higher than average incidence of DV? Nothing to see here Krischelle Whitnah
poor baby
I think Grandpa had something to do with it and if so, why would he do it for himself? He was either helping the mom or the dad with this.
Illegal Drugs
All this adults look very suss! who lets a 2 year old outta their sight...I suppose we will never find out the truth...but everyone knows there was foul play but can`t prove it...
The police and the fbi doesn't suspect foul play or they would arest Simone already
The private investigator the Kunz family hired quit the case because he said he felt the parents were lying and felt charges needed to be filed against them.
Why is the mom not looking up?? She keeps hanging her head down. So weird.. the whole thing is weird.
@Zane Normonta I know right?! She is very very sad.
One thing ALL parents who hurt their children do, is TALK a lot. True grief takes away words.
Usually true.
However if it was my child I know I would be crying and a mess.
I wouldn't be able to sleep eat etc.
When the parents “went to the store” they got rid of his body.
There you go
We had a 4 year old go missing last Thursday in the Forest here in Oregon. I heard the call on the Scanner, his Dad was out wood cutting. He was found with in 20 minuets. He was a little guy that wandered off a bit far. Good outcome. Poor baby 😢
I believe all four adults had something to do with the disappearance. The mother probably killed the little boy and to protect her , the others are keeping quiet. There's just no way there's no possible leads.
Definitely A New York Thang why would Isaac, who just met the mom for the first time the day before, want to protect her and lie for her? That doesn't make sense to me.
We know the sheriff thats been on this case, that little boy was NEVER at that campground. He never left Idaho Falls...he was killed or missing before they took the last minute camping trip
Isaac on the couch gives me the creeps. Especially his eye flicker when asking if the toddler was "happy".
This is so sad I just hope one day the truth will come out beautiful little boy xx
She hides her face in shame
For sure. That's my take. I suppose it could be shear grief and panic it felt more like shame.
Hello...i am joveck From Austin Texas...where do you came From
No she doesn't stop judging a book by its cover
Mom can't even look at camera. Guilty as sin
She is guilty of something. She knows something.
you dont know that at all! just bcuz she isnt looking at the camera doesnt mean that she is guilty. actually those who are guilty usually suck up the camera time and love it! examples would be diane downs and susan smith. watch their camera times! they are all over it loving the attention. i think that she is depressed cuz she doesnt have her baby. you dont know that she is guilty just as much as i dont know she innocent. she might feel like she failed since he is missing. alot of people dont believe that sometimes it is people other than the parents. maybe you both are too young to remember the case of polly klass? polly was taken from her own home, from her own room during a sleep over where two friends were staying with her! her mother was asleep in her room and the baby sister was asleep in another. yet a man came into her house while the mom and baby slept and abducted polly at knife point in front of her two friends. its a shame if the two friends werent there then the mom would have been blamed. her father mark klass is an advocate for abducted and murdered kids and he always has to remind people of the fact that just bcuz the parents were around doesnt mean that they are guilty. he has said numerous times on news quote "lets not forget my daughter polly klass was abducted from her home, from her bedroom while her mother slept just down the hallway, these thiings do happen and yet people still dont want to believe that they do". its so true! there are plenty of kids who have been abducted by strangers and yet the focus has always been on the parents and thats what stalls the investigation. dont forget the little newborn baby kamiyah mobley was abducted from the hospital yet the cops interogated her mother shanara mobley for hours asking her what she did with her newborn baby. for years suspicion was put on shanara until finally 19yrs later along comes kamiyah and the real abductor gloria williams was finally sentenced to prison for 18yrs, every year she had kamiyah and kept her from her mom and dad. im just simply saying that no one but deorr and whomever took him knows what happened! private investigators can and always will act like they know the real truth but he doesnt know bcuz if he did then where is deorr? where is his body? his remains? this pi knows nothing but he wishes he did!
She is obviously crying hard. I can't even look at people when I'm just crying because I'm sad that my husband hurt my feelings, much less having to look at strangers and a television camera while I'm crying. You don't know what she's going through, so you shouldn't judge her. I wouldn't ever accuse a parent of something so heinous without fucking proof, just because "she won't look up", get the hell out of here, you're ridiculous.
Very suspicious, 3 men 1 women on a camping trip !!!!!!! I think the mother is the key
4 adults, no strangers in their midst and the only child get a missing.
madness.
parents should be more responsible.
Is it weird that I got the mom is covering something up vibe in the first 10 minutes of vid?
Her phone conversation doesn't add up.And not looking into camera ,for her son.
I highly doubt he wondered off or someone kidnapped him way out there... I think the parents of the grandpa/friend had something to do with us... the mother didn’t sound worried or frantic on the phone with dispatch. And she never once looked up at the camera during the interview. But WHY would they do such a thing and then cry about it afterwards & make people look for months?! So sad 😭
Okay the first private investigator obviously found out some information causing him to withdraw from the case and state that the couple was lying. Then the second one they hire gets fired after he makes a statement that the parents are involved? How obvious is that? I feel so so sad for DeOrr and his family, everybody except the parents that is. So terribly obvious they're lying the whole time. I hope one day the FBI or police finally find some evidence and throw that in the faces of the parents. So many wasted resources looking for this child when the parents know exactly where he is. My heart 😭 those videos and pictures of him..how, just how?
man i cant even stomach nancy grace doing something good for someone... its a shame about the kid but i sure hate seeing her face
He probably never made it to the campsite. That’s why it was okay that so many volunteers searched the campgrounds because the parents knew he wasn’t there anyways.
The parents hired 2 private investigation firms and both have quit and say they believe the parents were directly responsible for his disappearance. No one's stories match. The 3 family members are quick to try to blame the odd non family member along on the trip. Who by all accounts probably shouldn't have even been there. I believe one or both of the parents are responsible. Most likely Jessica. It's also highly probable that DeOrr was never even at that camp site. This link has a 6 part investigation series that's more up to date and far more inclusive. Give it a watch.
www.ktvb.com/article/news/investigations/little-man-lost/suspects-named-in-disappearance-of-deorr-kunz-little-man-lost-episode-4/277-523825527
They still should be charged with wreckless endargerment or something for not watching him
heart broke when I heard little baby deorr saying I llove you to his mommy what a sweet baby! after reading more on this case I find it odd that the couple not only broke up but mother remarried !! I personally would not be interested in a man marrying or moving on so soon after this sort of tragedy . marriage suggests happiness and hope for the future don't know how you could feel that with your little baby missing and no explanation as to what happened! Probably some guy came along and felt sorry for her but why did deorr senior and her break up? the pressure stress and scrutiny or did the dad hurt this baby and she knows it but won't tell???
Gia Camillo I’m quite sure he’s saying it to Jessica’s mother.
thing is, she has an explanation of what happened...or she did, more correctly put!!
A lot of couples do break up after losing a child, whether the child dies or goes missing. I'm not making a judgment on their guilt or innocence at this point, just stating a well known fact.
Any update this is April 2 2018
I believe it may have been an accident but fear of prosecution the parents are covering it up, So sad......
A two year old baby should not be left alone even when sleeping.Must be always on sight of the one who's taking care of him/her.
You can't tell much from the brief clips of the parents here, but take a look at the unedited interview they did, it's here: th-cam.com/video/mwM1oG3z358/w-d-xo.html
I'm certainly no expert, but the interview seems...odd. They're given precious time on state-wide tv to talk about their son, & they talk about everything BUT him. When asked at the beginning to explain what happened, for example, they start their story with the 911 call. What?! Your child is missing & you don't start with that? The interviewer has to actually prompt them again about halfway thru the interview to explain what actually happened at the campsite.
The husband is doing everything he can to avoid actually talking about the events or his son. He's got an opportunity to tell tens of thousands of people about his son, what he was wearing, etc, but instead he drones on & on & on about the helicopter & it's night-vision, & the lousy cell reception, & the social media rumours. Really? That's where his focus is? Those are the important details for him? The couple seems off. They are both pushing hard with the abduction narrative, but I think they know 'way more than they're saying.
Think he was sold ?
Who lets a 2 year old out of there site! Something is rotten in denmark! Sorry to say the parents look suspicious!
Why would you leave your baby in the care of your grandfather who you know has dementia????
Something stinks about this case. Even their own investigators concluded that the parents are lying and that they know what happened to their child, especially the mother. The fact that she started a new romance and got married less than a year later speaks volumes. The last thing on an innocent mother's mind would be dating and a wedding.
make someone smile I thought hat too, about the grandfather having dementia!! Remember in the interview that was on the true crime show about it, last week-- the grandfather kept twisting his story and when they asked where the boy was, while with him, he said, well they'll have different stories from what I tell you, and wouldn't say anymore!! Makes no sense to say, " I thought he was with the parents." He may not have even had dementia!! Sounds like the parents had it all figured out ahead of time * and used the grandfather and his friend as pawns!! They thought, the more confusion, the better!!
You'd be surprised...
A grandfather with dementia would be preferable to some of the alternatives. My mother left me with her boyfriends child molesting (yes, it was known he had a predilection for little girls) father as a sitter. Apparently having a young child is frowned upon at parties and he was quite amenable to providing childcare for her. I'd pick forgetful grandpa over pedo grandpa anyday.
U know damn well when they went to the store the night before they dumped him on the way back. Claimed he walked off at the campsite knowing the cops would never find him there
Father God your are the only father I’ve known in I look to you for help and guidance father please help us
Hello..i am joveck From Austin Texas...where do you came Fom
Amen.
Any update on this in June 2019?! Thanks