When my nephew passed away at 8 months old my sister was so numb she didn't cry for a long time! It's not that she wasn't grieving, it's just that the grief was so overwhelming she literally shut down. It's the only way to keep going sometimes. We can't judge these people without knowing everything!
My husband died 9 weeks ago, and same here. I've cried many times, but not always in front of people. I feel totally shut down. I am grieving fiercely, but I'm still so numb that it's difficult to even know how I'm feeling.
Her grieving shouldn't be the focus. Their lie detector tests were inconclusive. That explains why they aren't grieving. They already know what happened. There was a lady recently who went out EVERYDAY looking for her missing 22 year old son. He was finally found deceased. For me, I think I'd stay in the area looking for a 2 year old as long as I possibly could, but that's just me. I'm just comparing her to this other Mom who was actually out by herself at times looking. If people stop looking, it's most likely because they know what happened.
people cope differently, i cried at my aunts funeral like balled my eyes out. but my cousin(her daughter) did not shed one tear. i thought it was weird at first but i’ve talked to her and realized she copes with her pain differently. she said she cried in her room for days, but never shed a tear around family.
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* Just because there's one road in and one road out doesn't mean that he wasn't abducted. * how does the sheriff come to the conclusion that the only other option is homicide?
Why wasn’t the Friend of Grandpa that showed up at the campsite supposedly to fish checked out more in depth? I heard he had been arrested for doing something to a minor. This needs to be better investigated!
Oh I agree....and then he wouldn't say if his polygraph passed or not. If I was to choose one main person of interest, it would be him. Just seems very odd. And the fact he doesn't remember EVERYTHING....right! I would bet the farm he is guilty.
There was evidence of the bear but people would rather accuse those broken the most over this. I pray people get the answers they are seeking and healing for any who are innocent and accused.
@@HautePinkFluff just my opinion after watching and reading a lot on this case, I think the parents know what happen to that baby boy. Usually it’s usually someone close to the victim that hurt them.
@JC19 BB thank you so much I will keep you in mind. It’s hard for people to really relate they expect you to just get on with your life. But your right it gets harder not easier I can see now how people die when they lose their husband/ wife. I was with him around the clock for most of my life because we worked together and we retired together. I truly don’t know how to live without him. Thank God for my sons they are the only reason I wake up each morning. ❤️. Thank you so much for your kindness 💕
Something like 80% of couples that lose a child, regardless of circumstances, end in divorce. Isn't that sad? We all need support. I can't imagine needing someone to lean on more , than if u Lose ur baby. 😢😢
That's true, my husband and myself have been together 30 year's now, 25 year's after the death of our daughter. Every one is amazed that we stayed together as most parent's blame the other. I could not imagine it, not having my best friend by my side as I'm grieving the loss of our baby girl. There's no way I would have made it out of the grief, that took many years, without him by my side.
I have worked in Pediatric Intensive Care and Neonatal Intensive Care. Include those parents whose children died from accidental death or were born with a birth defect because spouses blame each other.
@@Adriana-pm7jv Just look up his name on TH-cam and you'll see the Dateline Video! The guy is awesome! I feel there's a method to his madness in this Case! Once you watch it, you'll know what I mean!!!
Bubblegum_ Adriana I’ll find you the link, he solved it literally with his own mind,time,money&pure devotion as he says”I’ll get ya home baby girl”💔he found her with his bare hands meters from where she went missing beautiful young military medic😭 the husband, boyfriend & new friend were all suspects at the time, guy he honed in on was never number 1 suspect by police he just happened to see a news report on tv eating dinner with his family swore the guy was lying&hed solve it.......thank goodness he did!!!💕
A little boy went missing in eastern KY mountains for 3 days, they found him miles away from his home. Said a nice bear kept him safe. So it does happen. Kids wander away and can get far. I just pray little man is in peace ❤️
In Craven County, NC, a little boy went missing in the woods behind his Grandma's house. People searched for days. He turned up near the area where they thought he had gone into the woods! Thank God, he was safe!! He said a "Purple Bear" had kept him warm & safe. He was never afraid! God Bless the Children! God sends Angels!
MsStanleycat Yup! I believe he somehow fell into the creek/river, and being so small he either was swept down the river, or caught up on something and being so tiny, he was just missed. Poor baby😞
Suzi Tee it seemed really clear in these interviews that they are fully convinced/aware that DeOrr is dead, even though they don’t come right out and say it. And yet, they continue to endorse the abduction theory, which would allow for him to potentially be alive somewhere. Sounds suspicious to me.. 🤔
Natalie Marie exactly!!! Just like poor Madeleine McCann. Her parents didn’t leave, three young children, all alone in an unlocked apartment all night...... They are guilty of something much, much worse!!! 🤬🤬🤬
@Natalie Marie just because they may believe/endorse the theory that the baby was abducted doesn't even begin to suggest that they believe that in ANY way he's still alive!!! Abduction doesn't equate to a child being alive years later; in fact, the odds are that if he was abducted he would have been killed in the first 24-48 hours after he was taken! Also, I didn't really get the feeling that the parents are endorsing the abduction theory but rather that they have no idea what could have possibly have happened to their baby and abduction is simply one of many, many things to consider.
Beautiful Dreamer I’ve seen enough of their interviews to feel confident in that assessment. Including the “outtakes,” if you will. And of course being abducted doesn’t necessarily mean that he’d still be alive, but it would justify holding out hope... especially so soon after it happened. In cases like these, the vast majority of people hold out hope for years and years, and invest much more time and energy into finding their missing child (either dead or alive) than what we’re seeing with these two. It would be more understandable if one of them was losing hope, but BOTH of them..?!
My Son was murdered 15 yrs ago..Dont judge the actions of parents who lose children..We all grieve differently..When i lost my Son..I lost my mind..By the time we had his funeral..I was so calm that family remarked at how strong of a woman i am..Ime not strong..I hold it together because i have to..I cry in private every day..I scream when ime in the mountains or in the country alone..I suffer everyday...This little boys parents are doing the best they can in a horrific situation..I feel amd know their pain and ime so very sorry that they are going through this..I pray they get answers soon and can finally have the peace they deserve
My heart broke when I saw this post. You are a braver and stronger woman than I could ever be. I hold it together when a serious thing happens but to hold it together when it comes you your family, all I can think of is streongth. Blessings Willow. Peace and blessings.
Seriously because like.... I would want to take myself off this earth if this happened but I know I wouldn't be able to just do that because theres no way I could off myself without ever finding out the truth about what happened to my baby and make sure I found her so that I made sure she was given a proper burial and given not only closure, but justice. I would be completely trapped and torn between not knowing how to handle the pain but also knowing I couldn't give up on her. I would give up my entire life to figure out what happened to her. She is my life and I could not move on if this was the situation I was faced with. It amazes me every day how people can get back up and find themselves again after losing a child... I wish that kind of thing on NO one..
I believe he was never at the campsite. They killed him and orchards going to camping and report him missing there to make it believable. I believe they’re all on it.
I’m sorry, but as a mom, I would never leave my 2 year old with an admitted stranger. And not for nothing but great- granddad does not look like he could easily run after a 2 year old. Doesn’t make sense, everybody has amnesia.
my sis was a fast walker at 2 . she was found down the block. at 6 she was swimming w mum in ocean an was so far out she was being pulled out . rescued. there is NO GUARANTEED LIFE. consider this. he fell. hit head. in woods. but should be close. fell in water if any ... carried where. eaten so fast ? . negative on animal. so. he WASNT THERE. PROOVE pics on way to campsite.
I agree. That great granddad does not look competent to look after a 2 year old. And the mom says that she did not like the granddad's friend from the outset because of comments he made about bringing the child on the trip. Later, Mom says that the friend was drinking??? It is inexplicable that you'd leave a 2 year old with this pair.
I agree. Especially after she felt all the red signs and the odd things she heard that one guy say. Why leave the baby behind to go fishing? Doesn't make sense.
Horror of losing a child, compounded by not knowing what happened... and then accuse them? God bless this couple- their life has got to be so heartbreaking
I've knocked around in the back country all my life and have worked as a ranger for the National Park Service. I know how easy it is for even an experienced adult camper/hiker to become disoriented in wild lands. I'm also a parent and know how a small child can disappear in the blink of an eye. I don't think there's anything "off" or criminal going on here. Great-grandpa spaced out for a moment (or longer) while watching Baby DeOrr and the toddler toddled off. Sadly, this kind of thing happens all the time in the wilderness -- to adults as well as kids.
John Wayne there would have been blood. Even a small stain somewhere near by that the dogs would have hit on if he was taken by an animal. Poor baby I think he went in the water.
@ Not necessarily. Wolves have been known to take their prey to their den if they had pups and also they have been known to carry their prey very far . Wolves are very sneaky and since they were reintroduced back into Idaho their population had risen. Wolves also track for a long time and take the most vulnerable and sometimes bury their prey to keep birds and/or other wild animals from taking it. A mother in another country was in prison after her child went missing and ofcourse she didn't harm her child and years later clothing was found half buried and once it was tested the clothing had the DNA of a dingo.
Has n e one here ever heard of or seen the videos of the ex pooice officer that created 411? Coukd it have been a bigfoot that took the child? That is something that coukd have happened in a blink of n eye n no 1 noticed till he was miles away. God Bless n if he is passed then he is playing innheaven with Jesus waiting on his parents to meet him n zure his great grandfather is with him now. God's love b with u all!!
@You Mad Bro hahaha for real if a bear snatched that kid some people would be talking like they would run to the bear wrestle with it and take on the whole world.
I saw that when it actually happened. No one ever believed her and eventually they found the babies clothes and skeleton. So sad. Lives ripped apart for a accident.
She did!! I was just thinking about that cuz I was remembering when elaine on Seinfeld said maybe the Dingo ate you baby. Was funny on the show but that poor mother.
AMEN AND BLESS THESE PEOPLE FOR GIVING THEM A SENSE OF NOT GUILTY FEELING... I HONESTLY FEEL LIKE THIS FAMILY IS HONEST AND THEIR NAMES ARE RUINED FOR WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN WITHOUT ANY KNOWLEDGE OF RIGHT OR WRONG ......it just seems as though people want to believe the worst but when it happens to them they beg for people to believe what they say. There is a possibility of something that did happen and it could have to do with something that most people do not believe in but the government is hiding the truth and just let innocent people SUFFER NEEDLESSLY. ONE DAY IN THE FUTURE PEOPLE WILL HEAR THE TRUTH AND GOD WILL REVEAL A TRUTH THAT WILL SHOCK MOST OF MANKIND.........JUST WAIT AND SEE.......
Kidnapping absolutely isn't out of the realm of possibilities. Look at little Chloe Smith's case here in Australia. She was taken from remote camp ground. From the same tent her mum and step dad was in. She was thankfully found 18 days later and was in fact kidnapped.
Yup, and all the keyboard warriors were calling them baby killers when the story first broke. People are so quick to judge, when they weren't even there...
True but this little one seemed to have dissapeared during the day and no one saw anything? With such a little child and in such a remote placeit's just all very strange.
I dont care what people say but that stepdad was involved with the aboriginal and schemed it up together for the money, and knowing the acused wouldnt talk about it,
Perfect example, those poor parents especially the step dad he got crucified in the media for not acting right, being weird and that's just the tip of the iceberg. None of us know what happened here and thankfully some of these commentators are not judge and jury because they'd have us all locked up for a whole lot less 🙄
Don’t think the parents had anything to do with it. I think he wandered off since gramps was not carefully wAtching him. At that age you cannot even blink cuz toddlers will escape like Houdini
Ok but ..exactly maybe what they want you n me n poor grampa to think ..c'mon these parents left their baby alegidly...maybe so the grampa thaught ..n with a man they say they did not trust. .n went off alone ..to another watering hole without baby ..?? Out of sight ..of grampa n guy friend ...n blame them ? Why couldn't baby go with parents to other watering hole ?
Following this case in thw last 2 years the parents have been suspects as to the coat and toys were found at the apartment not the campsite and the mother did confess to the police that she knew where the body was but would not say. It is summized that an accident was at the grandfathers house where their "apartment" was. While they were in some type of state, drugs or alcohol, the cover up was the camping trip.
My little sister is 5, you have to watch her like a hawk, she always says bad words and wanders off almost everytime you look away, she also is very intelligent, but mischievous child.
He was lost in the woods so either aliens abducted him he was killed or lost. Kidnapping... could be but extremely small possibility. I think that baby is dead in the woods and I'm pretty sure the parents understand that. A 2yr old can't eat berries in the woods forever. Animals water and winter. If they'd had helicopters with infra red they may have found him alive back when he disappeared.
I agree & had similar thoughts....the dad makes it very clear that his focus is on clearing his name because other people questioning his innocence has made life hard for him, it doesn’t sound like his focus is on finding out what happened to his son, if he’s possibly still alive or if the perpetrator is still out there hurting other kids and needs to be brought to justice, wondering possibly if his son was hurt and what he was feeling in his last moments if he is no longer living... I’ve never seen parents of missing kids not wanting closure, to at least know what happened. That struck me as odd. People do react differently to stress and pain, some go into shock some scream, etc. and it is very important not to rush to judgement and hold court in the court of public opinion! However given the amount of discrepancies in the parents statements I can see why so many in their own community don’t exactly trust their version of events anymore. I wasn’t there and don’t know what happened, it’s tragic though and I feel so sad for that little boy, and for anyone crying out for answers who loved him and did not harm him.
I hear what you’re saying, but you probably wouldn’t. After a certain point, you would have to come to the conclusion your child was gone and is likely dead. You would still need to work to survive and may have other kids to take care of. It’s tragic and sad. I feel for the parents.
Why couldn't he have wondered off? The grandfather even hinted at the possibility when he said that he should have kept a closer eye on the boy. That wasn't even mentioned.
@@rosannecole4992 Issac would have ABSOLUTELY no reason to coverup for parents he didn't know & Grandpa was such poor shape...he could murder the child & hide the body...& Issac keeps quiet...or stupidly ... here's an idea ..covers for Gramps. Issac is the most likely of all as he has had prior charges & he has no reason to cover up. He actually hints about the parents so why doesn't the interviewer do a better job of asking...where were u all the time...parents were gone...they came back & took their child without telling Grandpa... ridiculous. Issac should have been #1.
I believe the parents are innocent. I believe law enforcement failed to look beyond the campground. Anyone could’ve been there and taken the baby. May God bring him back safely in Jesus Christ name. Amen. We cannot give up on hope.
Authorities immediately searched the campground thoroughly and beyond with the help of both experienced searchers and experienced local volunteers. Initially police believed the parents to be innocent.
Even the searcher is alluding to the idea the child was actually never there at the campsite. The parents claim the little boy was wearing one of the adult's cowboy boots. He couldn't have gone far and even if he did, one or both boots would have come off and the searchers would have found at least one of them.
If I had any doubts, when the dad said, about recovery from drinking after his son disappeared, that he had decided to live his life as if his son walked through the front door...to imagine what his son would think of him right then....that did it for me. He didn't do it. That was just too sincere and just too sad.
Zari.. well I DO AGREE with you! I am not easily manipulated.. I have thought since this happened in 2015 that the stranger with them had something to do with it..and also maybe even that mother..but not that dad..I do not believe he knows anything..I think the family hid some things from.him maybe but the dad I believe him
_/sigh_ Of course, you're right *@Granny Sue.* This case does not cease to burn me up. I just want to take that beast of burden off those poor parents and heave it onto my shoulders for a while!
What a weird thing to do, to leave a two year old with a sick grandad and a bloke who they had never met, while they went fishing. It seems like fishing would be a great new activity for the baby to enjoy having a little go of. Regardless of what happened after, I think that’s the strangest idea not to take him with them
When you have children never trust strangers and never leave them alone with those strangers. If there are many sad stories about parents hurting and killing their own children why trust strangers. I hope these stop in USA children can not continue to be the victims of sick adults minds.
@@maryjohnson7704 yes I think he knows something too! And he wouldn’t admit wether or not he passed the polygraph test which most likely means he failed
He probably only failed the poly because he has a nervous personality. I know a hundred people with that same figgety personality and they're guilty of nothing. The breaks in his voice and the way he was shifting... I dont know, I truly truly feel like he feels guilty, just like the great grandpa, that he didnt have his eyes on the kid the entire time. The mother said he spent a lot of his time in his tent. He probably was in there when the boy left. I feel the boy wandered off.
@@walkertexasstranger4349 I understand about bears. I had an adult bear try to get in through our doggy door once before. A bear can easily take someone to their cave or wherever their lair is. I’ve been following this and just because you specifically don’t think it’s possible doesn’t mean you are correct. Since you can’t seem to see outside of yourself, I’m not going to do research for you. My words have value as do yours. We don’t have to carry this discussion together any further but I won’t shut you down to everyone, I just don’t have time or desire to pacify you.
Based on this video alone, I really do believe the parents. I think the kid wandered off and eventually died, but I know that there is always more to the story than what is presented in a short tv program.
I can tell by the 911 call she in not in fight mode. She is saying ummm Fight mode is direct clear speech. Adrenaline take over. WHAT WHERE WHY tictoctictoc no stutter
@@startwithurfeet230 I’ve been in fight our flight utter panic mode and what you say was not my experience. If my child was missing I’d shut down from the fear.
To Mike: the great grandfather endorsed this man plus he could be fighting dementia not detected at the time. They just want "someone", GRIEF IS PARTICULAR TO THE INDIVIDUAL. just anyone!
The rescue team have been looking for years, they would have found him by now, and if the parents reckon he was kidnapped or killed by an animal it means no one was watching him and they don't seem to be angry to grampa for not watching him and let him be taken,they accused Isaac to keep the blame from themselves, they don't trust him yet they left him with the child, how could they be near the tent and not hear anything if they stayed near him even with their backs turned.
Oh and they think he was taken by a bear, their tent was close by how could they not hear the screams and no blood was found, and if he was killed instantly the bear would have made noise oh and broke the tent, bear didn't just sneak his paw in, suspicious!
@@bloodjl1 You clearly don't know how a polygraph machine works. He had a misdemeanor charge before. You don't want that situation being apart of this situation. And that's why they don't use polygraphs machines in court they're not reliable. So instead of telling everybody that information on the reasoning. He says I can't remember.
The father is very convincing. It’s unimaginable you’d leave your 2 year old child with an older man on oxygen and that friend. It’s so odd but I don’t think they hurt him.
I agree that Vernal is extremely believable. In my understanding Jessica has some issues (IDK what those issues are specifically) and has never expressed emotions “normally”. I know most people think Deorr suffered some kind of “accident” but I don’t agree with that. I believe Vernal would have called 911 to report any kind of accident involving his son.
He may seem convincing but must psychopaths are. The mother Jessica seems extremely sketchy. He may not have been directly involved but I’m certain he knows something 100%.
Ive ALWAYS said (being a parent that lost an infant myself) that it is hard enough to lose a child to death...let alone to BLAME them for that death. Just awful!!! And I'm not saying it DON'T happen...but it's very rare....& if you're going to accuse such an Unforgivable awful crime you best be sure
Star Anna I’m so sorry for your loss. I can’t even begin to imagine the pain of that. But.... unfortunately, (as sad as it is to say) it’s is NOT rare for the parents to be at fault. In fact, in most cases, it IS the parents who are to blame!
I wish they would find lil man. He deserves justice. Whoever done something to him needs to be held accountable. There is so many stories told it is sad
I think for sure he must have fallen in the water and was just not able to be found. He was a tiny little boy and it would have been easy to miss him, or swept quickly down the river.
Smokey Bear I know. You’re right. I just don’t have a clue what else could have happened to him. And it seems like the most logical explanation to me. What are you’re thoughts? Any theories??
I agree. A year ago, in our area, a vehicle packed with hunters went into the river. Two made it out, and as far as I've heard, the other 3 or 4 guys made it out of the vehicle, but not to shore, and were never found. I think it is very possible he wandered to the creek, fell in and drown, and ended up tangled in some brush somewhere downstream. I believe both of these parents are truly grieving, and devastated.
As a mother of a little boy, I always like to watch these videos to figure out how I can be a better parent. Every time, I realize that I’d never do the things that these parents do. I’d never leave my child on a camping grounds with out me.
You cant base what happened on how emotional the parents are 4 years later. My daughter went missing and I was a mess. You're instantly judged and looked at as the suspect and I got angry. But let it be told when she was found I collapsed with her in my arms the emotion is unreal that u feel. I still get upset with myself for forgetting to lock the door the night before. At the time tho all sorts of emotions were running through me and still do. Altho I will say if she hadn't being found I'd probably be sectioned or something.
I’m so happy that your wee one was found alive. I can only imagine what you must have gone through. I had my dog stolen and it half killed me, that dog was my son and someone took him from me. I almost ruined my sobriety over his disappearance. I want you to know that what happened to your daughter was in no way your fault, I forget to lock my door all the time, we’re human and we’re not perfect. You are one of the lucky 🍀 ones, focus on that and that you get to watch your little one grow up.
I think the same, why one of the parents stay with him at the camp?…my kids are active and I will never live that type of job in a camp to grandparents. My mom is active and the can watch the kids at home but this is an open space!! If the parents need time alone that’s not the right place for that.
Kids that little don’t know what “camping” is - but Jessica claims DeOrr “loved camping”. I’ve always thought she was lying to everyone because of what she said & how she said it. No emotion and no straight answers to questions. It’s all about her & how she feels. The dad is very indignant and defensive about the blame being directed to him. Overall neither parent is credible to me. P. S. I just heard very similar verbiage from the parents of Summer Wells. VERY SIMILAR.
One thing that strikes me is the father's testimony. He actually comes across as truthful and he's not thinking too long when answering his questions and he doesn't seem to be answering his questions like guilty people usually do because they have to tread carefully how they answer. Grandpas friend answers seem suspicious when he answered no comment. Like why would you say no comment if you weren't worried about the repercussions of your answer. I wish we could hear why he said no comment. The father seems absolutely innocent to me. But I could be wrong. But hundreds of missing people have disappeared in national parks including lots and lots of children. But the father seems genuine. I never seen guilty act like he has
I caught on to that too. also when they asked him if any of the other adults might have something to do with it he hesitated almost as if he knew he couldn’t say yes because he himself did it and when they asked him if he though baby Dior might still be alive he hesitated again as if he knew he were dead
As I listened to him I kept thinking he knows way more about it than he is willing to say. Plus what the baby's Mum said about his grumpiness with the little boy being out there, and the phone being restored to factory settings... 3 times... 🤔
There's a case in canada where a little boy went missing out fishing with his siblings and father. No trace. But after 30 years, they were able to find evidence the child fell in the water and got stuck under a tree, why no body ever surfaced. It's a possibility...
Watch a few mountain lion/ leopard videos... A big cat would totally be watching this kid, see his chance, and snatch that kid in a heartbeat, take him 2 miles away, and devour him..all in total silence
@@dishdog215 I thot it strange that the Sherrif said they ruled out wild animal predation as a cause. Then again, maybe they literally left no stone unturned and interviewed every wild animal in the area, tracked down their alibis, and corroborated all of their whereabouts on the afternoon in question... /ponder
@@AverageAmerican hilarious !!! Yea, I thought it was an idiotic statement too. One just needs to Google it...this area is rated as a level 5 for mtn lions... 5 is highest concentration level on the scale. This is a no-brainer
@@faithfulone4678 people are forgetting these parents have been caught in several lies and inconsistent statements. Before this happened they went to stores and got gas and nobody even saw this child. They are hoping time will make people forget the facts. No matter what unless one of them confesses or if the authorities ever stumble onto his body this case will remain unsolved. I'm seeing so many things in the news that is so disturbing. With all the technology today people still go missing and are murdered and there is no resolution. Cases that come to mind are Missy Bevers in Texas, Elizabeth Barraza in Texas, and now the "missing" boy in Colorado Gannon Staunch. It's so sad.
@@Lombranajd - Yes, I knew that. But regardless, the elderly have a more difficult time keeping up with a toddler. Actually, the old man was the mother’s grandfather; so the toddler’s GREAT-grandfather.
@@lauralee9440 my sons grandparents have watched my son many times. For a day, weekend and even while on vacation. Being a grandparent doesn't make him unfit to watch their grandchild.
@@MidgetPunter - It depends on their surroundings, the mobility of said grandparents, and the toddler’s activity level as well. Obviously, the GREAT-grandfather of the missing boy was not up to the task.
Having lost my sons I know that pain, and I sympathize with them. For that sheriff to say the parents did it without proof is the stupidest, most close minded nonsense I have heard. Had they continued the search more than two days they might have found something that could have helped in locating the baby.
@@conitorres9774 Your welcome... I can feel your pain in your message... Bless your heart... And, accusing someone of something like that, can destroy their lives, as if the loss of DeOrr hasn't destroyed their lives as it is... I agree, the search should have lasted longer than a few days.
What a heartless thing to say!! You don’t have a clue how investigated or interrogated he was!! Just because we (the public) aren’t told something doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.
If she was feeling bad vibes from Isaac why would she leave her son around him while she bogged off fishing?. Also haven't other kids and adults gone missing in similar places like with the 411 missing people.
Yes missing 411 .. But I agree that friend looks a little creepy.. And they probably felt he was fine with grandpa.. And grandpa probably fell asleep.. And mr creepy could not have gone to far. I camp a lot . And even in the middle of no where . It’s amazing the people you find in the middle of no where. They need that physic lady who found that kid in Juniper flats California.. She knew where to find the body. And who did it..
I believe that, and mom too, could they keep their story this straight for years? No, your brain and subconscience won't allow it! Something will slip out, no matter HOW hard you try to hide something, your brain will leak information.
@@hugemuscletube8582 are you an American? I ask because in our great nation people are deemed innocent until PROVEN guilty. Eventually the truth will come out. Let’s reserve judgement. It is a,ways concerning when law enforcement jumps to a theory without investigating every lead and when one zeros in on blaming the parents above all else without due diligence then it reminds us of the Salem Witch hunt/trials.
@@whisper2284I agree, that for now he is on title of the presumption of innocent, but maybe later on they could find proves and find him guilty and then realized that he just was acting. I am pointing out only a possibility, since no one really know the true yet, and no one can determine from a TH-cam video that " he is innocent,he really loved his kids. Remember your "GREAT" nation also have freedom of speech.
Kathleen Greves ~ same here. The water seemed to be moving at a steady pace. The only thing I believe these parents are guilty of~ is what we know for a fact, not keeping a close enough eye on a two year old at a lake. So horribly sad for all involved.
Creeks are shallow and have tons of little traps where the body would’ve gotten stuck. A creek is not a river, and even in a river the body is likely to turn up.
This breaks my heart. I pray they find him. You cant judge. My daughter and I was taking a nap one day and she got up without me knowing and got out the back door luckily I had great neighbors and they ran her back and I held her for hours and cried. I can only imagine what their going through. My heart breaks for them. I wont point fingers without knowing facts and i dont know any.
I find it kinda odd that guy being interviewed while sitting on a cooler said that something happened to the kid like maybe an accident? Him saying that could have been accident made me wonder that he maybe knows more about what really happen. I'm not saying he did anything, just saying he knows more.
Not only did he say that. He also didnt tell the interviewer his lie detector results, and even said he didnt want to comment on if he knew whether or not the little boy was dead or alive...
@@Master...deBater yeah drugs is the first thing you would think off especially after the mother already lost some kids. and the 2 older men def were drinking. but the father denies it at the beginning right
I cannot imagine getting married so soon after my child’s disappearance. Heck, I can’t imagine ever starting a new life after such a tragedy. Just institutionalize me because I’d go nuts.
Lets not forget EVERYONE handles trauma differntly..As dad said, there is no book, or a guild line one can follow to help one work threw the feelings, cuz EVERYONE handles it differnt!!!
Yup, I’d spend the rest of my life looking for my child, basically living out of my car and searching every square inch of that area no matter how impossible that it. Like how much ground can a person/toddle cover in 1 day? My starting point would be the camp site.
WHY WHY WHY would they leave him to go fishing? Why would they not take him with? The boy was only 2 years old 😭😭😭. I really pray the parents did not hurt him. Did they think twice about leaving him with an old man and a stranger? SO SAD!
Same thing happened to my sister. My 26 year old Nephew Landon was diagnosed with leukemia on a Wednesday. We knew he wasn’t going to make it Friday. 2 DAYS
I have four grown sons. When they were growing up we camped a lot. I was a very attentive, nervous mother. In spite of my best efforts, there were a few times they would end up out of my sight. Absolutely horrifying. I thank God for protecting my children when I was incapable of being omnipresent, and staring at all four kids at once, every second of every day. If we are all HONEST we would all be admitting to those moments. Attempt to be grateful this horrible tragedy didn't happen to your child because you, like every other parent on here, you know it could happen to anyone, no matter how careful.
What? You didn't leave them with sick very old men who were drinking and strangers who were also drinking? Oh so high and mighty of you! (being sarcastic). Yes, responsible people don't leave a toddler with a sick old man and a stranger that gives them the creeps who are both drinking. This is common sense 101. This is parenting.
@@shannonscheffel7366 the difference here is that they left a toddler with a sick old man who was drinking and a stranger who the mother says gave her the creeps who was also drinking. This is a big difference than a child wandering off from an attentive parent.
I lost an adult child to illness & the pain is never ending. When it first happens, all you can think about every waking moment of the day is what has happened to your baby and it plays over and over and over in your mind. If Baby Deorr's parents didn't do anything to him, than it is pure hate and evil to torment them when their hearts are already broken. I pray that Deorr will be found.
The 'friend' acts pretty suspicious. And if there were no drugs or alcohol, how could you 'not remember everything'. He's overly nervous when questioned.
It was him. Since the moment i started watching this i knew the friend had something to do with the little boys disappearance. The mother mentioned that he was mad that they took their 2yr old son camping. 🤷🏻♀️ It was a family trip, not a stranger trip. Then he disappears for a long time and boy goes missing. What person gets back, goes in his tent and does not help out look for a missing child? The child of the people he is camping with? Yup, it was him. I don’t understand how the cops didn’t investigate that man when it’s obvious he is not family and parents didn’t know anything about him. Cops really need to wake up 🤦♀️
@@Jay-adventureswithkids It amazes me that people are so unaware of the demons controlling them, making them do such terrible things. I'm not saying the jerk couldn't do it without help, but how sick their minds are, to do something like this..and think it's ok? Think it's normal? IDK, ppl don't recognize the fact Satan OWNS THEM and controls them. But one day they WILL be held accountable, as we all will.
He wouldn’t say wether or not he passed the polygraph. So I would assume that means he failed it. He def seemed nervous during the interview. He was odd.
@@Jay-adventureswithkids so what did this out of shape( no car) killer do with the body, during the 50 minute maximum window of opportunity? They had dozens of searchers, tracking dogs, professionals... Searching for days after the kid went missing. Are you claiming this dude is some sort of John Wick genius, that was able to go unnoticed by grandpa (as even missing from the site), with the boy, and conceal the body...
What an adorable toddler. He's so cute. It's sad to know he disappeared in those mountains. I pray something comes up as to his disappearance to put a closure to this and for the family and friends peace.
Mom n dad keep saying Isaac is wierd,strange,slow and didn't want the boy there ,why would you leave him alone with him ? I believe Isaac was a set up .😠
I think the sheriff at the time of the disappearance handed this case very incompetently. I think it’s his fault that people stop really looking for the baby. I think the baby wondered off and fell in the water. I feel sorry for this couple because they got a really bad rap for a long time. God bless . I hope answers come for these parents. Great new sheriff I like him a lot.
Well you weren't there so it isn't fair to criticize the sheriff. What I find astonishing is the mother never shed one tear in any interviews, she gives a creepy smile when asked about if she did anything to the baby and her excuses are lame.
They change their stories multiple times, fail polygraphs, their behavior makes no sense, 2 PIs quit for the same exact reason (calling the parents uncooperative and deceptive). Of course the investigators are going to investigate the case as a homicide rather than a missing person.
Lamb Jiggy It’s my opinion . Just like everyone else on these comments. We all have an opinion. Don’t tell me my opinion is not fair when most people commenting on this channel wasn’t there as well.
My uncle is a sheriff and in his town a 22 no old toddler wondered off. He was found 3 days later where he had fallen off a cliff that was an old coal mine many yrs before. The only reason I feel he was found is because he was crying and a search crew was near enough to find him. Where he fell there's no doubt in my mind they would have never found him had he not been crying (thank God he was only slightly dehydrated) but had he not been crying he'd probably still be there today. I hate to think of it but baby Door, could have fallen threw a very deep crevice. I believe you and feel horrible for the parents
@@rainbowmaneunicorn7338 well neither were you there, nor do you know the mother to criticize how she's mourned for she may even still believe he's alive or have hopes of him being..So dont be a hypocrite...
Something is fishy. The mom said this wasn’t his first camping trip that she brought him everywhere. But felt off when that guy asked why he was there. Then why did you leave him and not take him fishing, you left him with a guy you felt off about. And you said you take him every where...
Years ago my boyfriends 3 year old cousin died, she drowned at a graduation party on a lake. Her mom was remarried, and had two older daughters(age 6 and 9) from her first marriage and the 3 year old from her second marriage. When the older girls dad took his daughters for his weekend visit, he invited the 3 year old too so she could go to the graduation party and have a fun day at the lake with her sisters. Her mom initially didnt want to say yes but decided to let her go, she trusted her ex husband. When the 3 year old died, the mom wasnt there of course so she wasnt a suspect, this was a tragic accident but the ways the mom grieved and the dad grieved was totally different. To say the mother in this case is a suspect because of how people perceived her behavior is not a reliable marker. Some people shut down completely, they dont cry, they just shut down, some people sob hysterically.
I camped with my daughter...had my head on swivel and she went everywhere with me...no one else was in charge...but I think these parents are innocent.
The child would have and should have been alright bcuz eventually, most Humans will let a child out of their sight when they feel the chance of harm is remote. Otherwise, we all would be raised with short leashes...
I hate that some people get on tv saying come home , please bring my child home and they know about a horror buried in their own back yard. They live forever with their crime and people feel so sorry for them. I feel Sorry for the child
Look how long it took for that little boy Jared (I believe his name was) to be found. He was a 3 or 4 year old that disappeared in a National park. They found his bones not long ago but he disappeared in the 00s.
@@wadestanton Shasta and her brother were taken by a dangerous predator after he slaughtered the parents and older brother. But that had nothing to do with a subterrestrial abduction.
@@AverageAmerican Shasta was made to watch the disemboling of her brother while he was alive. I guess to you that is not, "the most heartbreaking missing persons case". That's fine.
@@wadestanton _"I guess to you..."_ Why assume? We are talking about two completely different scenarios. In one, a Human monster is the culprit. But in the other, a subterrestrial cannibal is the perp. A real monster. Both are monsters nonetheless! We are fortunate to have Shasta back...
I agree with that guy entirely on this aspect: I would NEVER take a toddler to such a huge, isolated place! There are a LOT safer places where you could camp!
But a child can be taken out of your home with a alarm system. Missing 411 is more important than people can imagine. Putting the blame on a bad choice is closed minded
Let's not victim shame...kids are taken out of cars, homes, hospitals..you can't NOT live just because you have small children. If they are avid campers why would you NOT take your child for that experience? Grown adults get lost..I mean it could have happened to anyone!
I may be wrong, but I have followed this case for four years and I don’t believe these parents are guilty of the death or harm of their child. Lord be with them. Blessed be...
They took their eyes off him for a second, like we all do, and he’s gone into the water. But why would a mother go off fishing and leave him with someone she didn’t trust. Look how near the water they are .
@@elviradelfin5130 Hindsight is truly 20/20. We know how the story ends, so it's easy for a person sitting on their sofa to label it as stupidity. We take our children camping in remote eastern Kentucky surrounded by national forest , creeks and mountains. I can't tell you how many times a relative has kept an eye on our boys while my husband and I walked down to another creek, the barn , etc This was a tragedy. I'm certain if parents got a re-do they would have never even gone camping that day. Similar to the disappearance of Jaryd Atadero, nobody expects their baby not to come home
Im sorry if im harsh but i really see neglect esp with the mother considering she already had babies she shd know how two years olds are if i were togo fishing i would surely bring the baby with me tragedy could be avoided
@@libralillyknits Your comment is very realistic. I, too used to take my children to remote places and it’s not unusual to leave a child with an older person and go away from a short time. For the public to turn on these parents is horrible. It’s time to bring in a reputable, gifted psychic to find this child and bring resolution and closure for these parents.
I've been lost in wooded areas of campgrounds as a child; my friend and I lost track of each other when we crossed a street together in Manhattan and were separated for hours even thought we both stayed there and searched for the other; I considered walking along the "beach" in Alaska only to find out later that that particular one was like quicksand at high tide and I could have "disappeared". So why couldn't he have gotten lost? It looks like a big enough place (to me) that a little kid could get lost and not be found if the adults are looking in one place while the child is in another and they all keep moving.
I think the only thing the parents are guilty of, is making the bad decision to bring such a young child camping. And to let him out of their site. And leave home alone with the elderly grandpa and a stranger. And that decision probably haunts them to this day! I wouldn’t have let my kids or now grandkids out of my sight for two seconds!
Kirsten Wright if your read her statement correctly you would realize that she was repeating a quote from little D's father.....a comment he made, she should have put quotations around the words.
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When my nephew passed away at 8 months old my sister was so numb she didn't cry for a long time! It's not that she wasn't grieving, it's just that the grief was so overwhelming she literally shut down. It's the only way to keep going sometimes. We can't judge these people without knowing everything!
Hansen Says Take A Seat there is no right or wrong way to grieve. Everyone grieves in their own way and their own time.
Absolutely!
My husband died 9 weeks ago, and same here. I've cried many times, but not always in front of people. I feel totally shut down. I am grieving fiercely, but I'm still so numb that it's difficult to even know how I'm feeling.
Her grieving shouldn't be the focus. Their lie detector tests were inconclusive. That explains why they aren't grieving. They already know what happened. There was a lady recently who went out EVERYDAY looking for her missing 22 year old son. He was finally found deceased. For me, I think I'd stay in the area looking for a 2 year old as long as I possibly could, but that's just me. I'm just comparing her to this other Mom who was actually out by herself at times looking. If people stop looking, it's most likely because they know what happened.
people cope differently, i cried at my aunts funeral like balled my eyes out. but my cousin(her daughter) did not shed one tear. i thought it was weird at first but i’ve talked to her and realized she copes with her pain differently. she said she cried in her room for days, but never shed a tear around family.
* Just because there's one road in and one road out doesn't mean that he wasn't abducted.
* how does the sheriff come to the conclusion that the only other option is homicide?
we all have no clue what happened, does that make all of us the child-s murderers?
The cops are idiots!
My thoughts exactly!
how? Because there was no evidence of tire tracks, nobody even saw this kid! There is no proof this kid was even at this campground.
@C-Ann W show me proof
Why wasn’t the Friend of Grandpa that showed up at the campsite supposedly to fish checked out more in depth? I heard he had been arrested for doing something to a minor. This needs to be better investigated!
Oh I agree....and then he wouldn't say if his polygraph passed or not. If I was to choose one main person of interest, it would be him. Just seems very odd. And the fact he doesn't remember EVERYTHING....right! I would bet the farm he is guilty.
The Idaho State Repository shows Reinwand was charged with felony rape in 2006, but that charge was amended down to misdemeanor domestic battery.
@@TheFixIsIn-fe1jy Does it list the age and gender of the victim?
There was evidence of the bear but people would rather accuse those broken the most over this. I pray people get the answers they are seeking and healing for any who are innocent and accused.
@@jessicadean2357 it was the man’s romantic adult partner at the time. Like his girlfriend/wife or something. Not a child.
People grieve in their own way. I don’t believe these parents did anything to their baby.
Like what?.
I don't think they did I think the grandpas friend did it
The mother failed three polygraph tests and the father failed two. You really think they have nothing to do with it?
@@HautePinkFluff just my opinion after watching and reading a lot on this case, I think the parents know what happen to that baby boy. Usually it’s usually someone close to the victim that hurt them.
Don't be fooled they know way more than you think
I just lost my husband and I can’t even think straight. I can only imagine how these parents are feeling
I am so sorry for your loss Miss Roberta. My heart and prayers go out to you hon.🙏❤😢
Peace love and light to you Roberta
I lost my love also its so hard . 💔
So sorry for your terrible loss. I hope you can find a measure of peace one day!
@JC19 BB thank you so much I will keep you in mind. It’s hard for people to really relate they expect you to just get on with your life. But your right it gets harder not easier I can see now how people die when they lose their husband/ wife. I was with him around the clock for most of my life because we worked together and we retired together. I truly don’t know how to live without him. Thank God for my sons they are the only reason I wake up each morning. ❤️. Thank you so much for your kindness 💕
Something like 80% of couples that lose a child, regardless of circumstances, end in divorce. Isn't that sad? We all need support. I can't imagine needing someone to lean on more , than if u Lose ur baby. 😢😢
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True, my son and his wife couldn't move past losing their first born child. Even after having my grandson. They are currently separated.
They separate because they blame each other everyday
That's true, my husband and myself have been together 30 year's now, 25 year's after the death of our daughter. Every one is amazed that we stayed together as most parent's blame the other. I could not imagine it, not having my best friend by my side as I'm grieving the loss of our baby girl. There's no way I would have made it out of the grief, that took many years, without him by my side.
I have worked in Pediatric Intensive Care and Neonatal Intensive Care. Include those parents whose children died from accidental death or were born with a birth defect because spouses blame each other.
I recognize that guy with the search dog team. He solved the case of a missing girl and put the murderer behind bars. What an awesome guy!
Can you give me the link to the vid?
@@Adriana-pm7jv
Just look up his name on TH-cam and you'll see the Dateline Video! The guy is awesome! I feel there's a method to his madness in this Case! Once you watch it, you'll know what I mean!!!
Bubblegum_ Adriana I’ll find you the link, he solved it literally with his own mind,time,money&pure devotion as he says”I’ll get ya home baby girl”💔he found her with his bare hands meters from where she went missing beautiful young military medic😭 the husband, boyfriend & new friend were all suspects at the time, guy he honed in on was never number 1 suspect by police he just happened to see a news report on tv eating dinner with his family swore the guy was lying&hed solve it.......thank goodness he did!!!💕
@@simonestaunton257 I posted the link above
@@winterwillow8440 where is the link?
A little boy went missing in eastern KY mountains for 3 days, they found him miles away from his home. Said a nice bear kept him safe. So it does happen. Kids wander away and can get far. I just pray little man is in peace ❤️
warm & safe! He was afraid!!
In Craven County, NC, a little boy went missing in the woods behind his Grandma's house. People searched for days. He turned up near the area where they thought he had gone into the woods! Thank God, he was safe!! He said a "Purple Bear" had kept him warm & safe. He was never afraid! God Bless the Children! God sends Angels!
A little boy could disappear in that wilderness in a heartbeat.
I think a cougar took him up a tree.
MsStanleycat Yup! I believe he somehow fell into the creek/river, and being so small he either was swept down the river, or caught up on something and being so tiny, he was just missed. Poor baby😞
@@1962pjh up a tree....lol, yeah that's it. OMG we have a winner!
@@laswan5 you dont think many animals can and will grab a kid or another animal that size?? Think again...
3O3 Brine if he was eaten by an animal, where are his shoes? Clothes? There would be something.
If MY baby was missing. I couldn’t care less about proving people right or wrong. All I’d care about, would be FINDING my baby!!! 🤬
Suzi Tee it seemed really clear in these interviews that they are fully convinced/aware that DeOrr is dead, even though they don’t come right out and say it. And yet, they continue to endorse the abduction theory, which would allow for him to potentially be alive somewhere. Sounds suspicious to me.. 🤔
Natalie Marie exactly!!! Just like poor Madeleine McCann.
Her parents didn’t leave, three young children, all alone in an unlocked apartment all night......
They are guilty of something much, much worse!!! 🤬🤬🤬
@Natalie Marie just because they may believe/endorse the theory that the baby was abducted doesn't even begin to suggest that they believe that in ANY way he's still alive!!! Abduction doesn't equate to a child being alive years later; in fact, the odds are that if he was abducted he would have been killed in the first 24-48 hours after he was taken!
Also, I didn't really get the feeling that the parents are endorsing the abduction theory but rather that they have no idea what could have possibly have happened to their baby and abduction is simply one of many, many things to consider.
Beautiful Dreamer I’ve seen enough of their interviews to feel confident in that assessment. Including the “outtakes,” if you will. And of course being abducted doesn’t necessarily mean that he’d still be alive, but it would justify holding out hope... especially so soon after it happened. In cases like these, the vast majority of people hold out hope for years and years, and invest much more time and energy into finding their missing child (either dead or alive) than what we’re seeing with these two. It would be more understandable if one of them was losing hope, but BOTH of them..?!
Isaac gave me a red flag once they began the video. He tears up at talking about it being an accident.
My Son was murdered 15 yrs ago..Dont judge the actions of parents who lose children..We all grieve differently..When i lost my Son..I lost my mind..By the time we had his funeral..I was so calm that family remarked at how strong of a woman i am..Ime not strong..I hold it together because i have to..I cry in private every day..I scream when ime in the mountains or in the country alone..I suffer everyday...This little boys parents are doing the best they can in a horrific situation..I feel amd know their pain and ime so very sorry that they are going through this..I pray they get answers soon and can finally have the peace they deserve
My heart goes out to you. He wasn't murdered but my family last a child. I understand how it affects your brain and a false calm and crying alone.
Sorry for loss
My heart broke when I saw this post. You are a braver and stronger woman than I could ever be. I hold it together when a serious thing happens but to hold it together when it comes you your family, all I can think of is streongth. Blessings Willow. Peace and blessings.
I bet they lie too huh?? 🙄🙄🙄
I would literally just fall over dead if I lost my child or something happened to my child.
I can’t imagine what it feels like to lose a child. My heart goes out to anyone who has had to suffer through this .
Seriously because like.... I would want to take myself off this earth if this happened but I know I wouldn't be able to just do that because theres no way I could off myself without ever finding out the truth about what happened to my baby and make sure I found her so that I made sure she was given a proper burial and given not only closure, but justice. I would be completely trapped and torn between not knowing how to handle the pain but also knowing I couldn't give up on her.
I would give up my entire life to figure out what happened to her. She is my life and I could not move on if this was the situation I was faced with. It amazes me every day how people can get back up and find themselves again after losing a child... I wish that kind of thing on NO one..
What would Isaac gain from ending the boy's life? What's the motive? And I don't remember the mom ever mentioning that she suspected him until now..
I believe he was never at the campsite. They killed him and orchards going to camping and report him missing there to make it believable. I believe they’re all on it.
It's indescribable 💔
@@AuntCathyPooh 💔
I’m sorry, but as a mom, I would never leave my 2 year old with an admitted stranger. And not for nothing but great- granddad does not look like he could easily run after a 2 year old. Doesn’t make sense, everybody has amnesia.
my sis was a fast walker at 2 .
she was found down the block.
at 6 she was swimming w mum in ocean an was so far out she was being pulled out .
rescued.
there is NO GUARANTEED LIFE.
consider this.
he fell. hit head. in woods. but should be close. fell in water if any ... carried where.
eaten so fast ? . negative on animal.
so.
he WASNT THERE.
PROOVE pics on way to campsite.
That's why he is not a suspic to the police
I agree. That great granddad does not look competent to look after a 2 year old. And the mom says that she did not like the granddad's friend from the outset because of comments he made about bringing the child on the trip. Later, Mom says that the friend was drinking??? It is inexplicable that you'd leave a 2 year old with this pair.
Yea theres definitely something off about this whole thing. I can't place my finger on what it is tho.
I agree. Especially after she felt all the red signs and the odd things she heard that one guy say. Why leave the baby behind to go fishing? Doesn't make sense.
Horror of losing a child, compounded by not knowing what happened... and then accuse them? God bless this couple- their life has got to be so heartbreaking
I pray they find him someday!
Your name sounds fake
Parents are killed him.
I've knocked around in the back country all my life and have worked as a ranger for the National Park Service. I know how easy it is for even an experienced adult camper/hiker to become disoriented in wild lands. I'm also a parent and know how a small child can disappear in the blink of an eye. I don't think there's anything "off" or criminal going on here. Great-grandpa spaced out for a moment (or longer) while watching Baby DeOrr and the toddler toddled off. Sadly, this kind of thing happens all the time in the wilderness -- to adults as well as kids.
John Wayne there would have been blood. Even a small stain somewhere near by that the dogs would have hit on if he was taken by an animal. Poor baby I think he went in the water.
@@1978UA He could have fallen into a deep cavern, too.
@ Not necessarily. Wolves have been known to take their prey to their den if they had pups and also they have been known to carry their prey very far .
Wolves are very sneaky and since they were reintroduced back into Idaho their population had risen.
Wolves also track for a long time and take the most vulnerable and sometimes bury their prey to keep birds and/or other wild animals from taking it.
A mother in another country was in prison after her child went missing and ofcourse she didn't harm her child and years later clothing was found half buried and once it was tested the clothing had the DNA of a dingo.
Jeanette Waverly did ya ever meet anyone who saw a werewolf, dogman or Adlit? They are all the same beings and just curious if you did hear
Has n e one here ever heard of or seen the videos of the ex pooice officer that created 411? Coukd it have been a bigfoot that took the child? That is something that coukd have happened in a blink of n eye n no 1 noticed till he was miles away. God Bless n if he is passed then he is playing innheaven with Jesus waiting on his parents to meet him n zure his great grandfather is with him now. God's love b with u all!!
This is really sad. Their boy could possibly still be alive, living with another family.
As sad as that is to think it's the best hope for right now
If you had a red flag about him....then why would you leave the baby with Bob and Isac?
Exactly!!! She has NO idea how much her guilt is showing. She has an answer for everything except anything to do with her child!!! 😤
Bob sponge ? 🧽
dude Bob was his great grandfather lol why wouldnt they ?
@You Mad Bro hahaha for real if a bear snatched that kid some people would be talking like they would run to the bear wrestle with it and take on the whole world.
Good question 🤔
In Australia a mother whose baby was killed by a dingo was convicted of murder and spent years in jail.
This case reminds me of that one.
I saw that when it actually happened. No one ever believed her and eventually they found the babies clothes and skeleton. So sad. Lives ripped apart for a accident.
She did!! I was just thinking about that cuz I was remembering when elaine on Seinfeld said maybe the Dingo ate you baby. Was funny on the show but that poor mother.
And i strongly believe that is exactly what they deserved!!!. Period.
said that before I looked through comments. the DINGO case
yes the mother reminds me of Lindy Chamberlain and of how everyone accused her as she didn't show her emotions.
Dear God please help them all. Please show them where he is. And if he's in heaven now? Please let them know. In Jesus name. Amen.
Amen
The best comment I've read.
AMEN AND BLESS THESE PEOPLE FOR GIVING THEM A SENSE OF NOT GUILTY FEELING... I HONESTLY FEEL LIKE THIS FAMILY IS HONEST AND THEIR NAMES ARE RUINED FOR WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN WITHOUT ANY KNOWLEDGE OF RIGHT OR WRONG ......it just seems as though people want to believe the worst but when it happens to them they beg for people to believe what they say. There is a possibility of something that did happen and it could have to do with something that most people do not believe in but the government is hiding the truth and just let innocent people SUFFER NEEDLESSLY. ONE DAY IN THE FUTURE PEOPLE WILL HEAR THE TRUTH AND GOD WILL REVEAL A TRUTH THAT WILL SHOCK MOST OF MANKIND.........JUST WAIT AND SEE.......
the mom said the son goes every.then why didn't she take the son fishing if he goes everywhere?
She aware of what happened to the kid.
Kidnapping absolutely isn't out of the realm of possibilities. Look at little Chloe Smith's case here in Australia. She was taken from remote camp ground. From the same tent her mum and step dad was in. She was thankfully found 18 days later and was in fact kidnapped.
Yup, and all the keyboard warriors were calling them baby killers when the story first broke. People are so quick to judge, when they weren't even there...
True but this little one seemed to have dissapeared during the day and no one saw anything? With such a little child and in such a remote placeit's just all very strange.
I dont care what people say but that stepdad was involved with the aboriginal and schemed it up together for the money, and knowing the acused wouldnt talk about it,
Perfect example, those poor parents especially the step dad he got crucified in the media for not acting right, being weird and that's just the tip of the iceberg. None of us know what happened here and thankfully some of these commentators are not judge and jury because they'd have us all locked up for a whole lot less 🙄
And Lori Poland
That sweet little boy, praying he is at peace. It's just heartbreaking.
You never know, he may still be alive.
@@RottiDog100 nah I don’t think he is but it’s so sad😭
@@servix8721 Are you thinking alien abduction?
@@AverageAmerican or possibly the forest people took him. A lot of people disappear yearly. Sometimes it's a grieving mother who wants a baby
@@kerylorbsmultidimensional4214 yes there are many mysteries people have yet to understand for sure
Don’t think the parents had anything to do with it. I think he wandered off since gramps was not carefully wAtching him. At that age you cannot even blink cuz toddlers will escape like Houdini
Ok but ..exactly maybe what they want you n me n poor grampa to think ..c'mon these parents left their baby alegidly...maybe so the grampa thaught ..n with a man they say they did not trust. .n went off alone ..to another watering hole without baby ..?? Out of sight ..of grampa n guy friend ...n blame them ? Why couldn't baby go with parents to other watering hole ?
Following this case in thw last 2 years the parents have been suspects as to the coat and toys were found at the apartment not the campsite and the mother did confess to the police that she knew where the body was but would not say. It is summized that an accident was at the grandfathers house where their "apartment" was. While they were in some type of state, drugs or alcohol, the cover up was the camping trip.
She was suspicious from the start about friend, then why leave your child there.
How do you explain the toys and jacket found in the apartment.
My little sister is 5, you have to watch her like a hawk, she always says bad words and wanders off almost everytime you look away, she also is very intelligent, but mischievous child.
Why is it "the truth will come out and everyone will know the truth"? Why is it not "I pray my child is found alive and given back to me safe".
Ikr, very strange.
Because he isn’t only a grieving parent.. he’s now the accused.. it’s hard to look innocent when everyone thinks ur guilty.
He was lost in the woods so either aliens abducted him he was killed or lost. Kidnapping... could be but extremely small possibility. I think that baby is dead in the woods and I'm pretty sure the parents understand that. A 2yr old can't eat berries in the woods forever. Animals water and winter. If they'd had helicopters with infra red they may have found him alive back when he disappeared.
I agree & had similar thoughts....the dad makes it very clear that his focus is on clearing his name because other people questioning his innocence has made life hard for him, it doesn’t sound like his focus is on finding out what happened to his son, if he’s possibly still alive or if the perpetrator is still out there hurting other kids and needs to be brought to justice, wondering possibly if his son was hurt and what he was feeling in his last moments if he is no longer living... I’ve never seen parents of missing kids not wanting closure, to at least know what happened. That struck me as odd. People do react differently to stress and pain, some go into shock some scream, etc. and it is very important not to rush to judgement and hold court in the court of public opinion! However given the amount of discrepancies in the parents statements I can see why so many in their own community don’t exactly trust their version of events anymore. I wasn’t there and don’t know what happened, it’s tragic though and I feel so sad for that little boy, and for anyone crying out for answers who loved him and did not harm him.
That’s cherry picking!
It’s absurd that this child just disappeared with four grown adults around him. This is extremely sketchy.
I agree I just think the parents knw what happened but if they tell the story they will all go to jail.
I think I would go crazy I would go up the camp ground everyday to look for my child and never stop
1000000%. I would've been going there every single day. And not just once a year.
Me too. I don't think I could ever stay composed long enough to even do an interview. But people are different and do react in different ways.
Exactly what I was thinking
@you mad bro
I don't know.
I hear what you’re saying, but you probably wouldn’t. After a certain point, you would have to come to the conclusion your child was gone and is likely dead. You would still need to work to survive and may have other kids to take care of. It’s tragic and sad. I feel for the parents.
Why couldn't he have wondered off? The grandfather even hinted at the possibility when he said that he should have kept a closer eye on the boy. That wasn't even mentioned.
How far could he have gotten? Wasn't he 2? or 3?
All four adults seem to be covering for one another!!
@@rosannecole4992 Issac would have ABSOLUTELY no reason to coverup for parents he didn't know & Grandpa was such poor shape...he could murder the child & hide the body...& Issac keeps quiet...or stupidly ... here's an idea ..covers for Gramps.
Issac is the most likely of all as he has had prior charges & he has no reason to cover up. He actually hints about the parents so why doesn't the interviewer do a better job of asking...where were u all the time...parents were gone...they came back & took their child without telling Grandpa... ridiculous.
Issac should have been #1.
@@carolewells9215 Yes " but where did he hide the toddler they searched & searched...!
@@rosannecole4992 HIS DEAD BODY WAS IN THE TENT WITH ISAAC! DID THEY EVER SEARCH HIS TENT?
I believe the parents are innocent. I believe law enforcement failed to look beyond the campground. Anyone could’ve been there and taken the baby. May God bring him back safely in Jesus Christ name. Amen. We cannot give up on hope.
True. Sometimes, hope is all one has in certain situations...
Authorities immediately searched the campground thoroughly and beyond with the help of both experienced searchers and experienced local volunteers. Initially police believed the parents to be innocent.
I believe them too. They just dont act like liars. And they wouldnt have come back into the spotlight here if they did it.
Even the searcher is alluding to the idea the child was actually never there at the campsite. The parents claim the little boy was wearing one of the adult's cowboy boots. He couldn't have gone far and even if he did, one or both boots would have come off and the searchers would have found at least one of them.
Amen
I don't understand how you can leave your kid around someone you don't like. Was the old man supposed to protect him? One of them knows what happened.
I pray for the parents and hope one day the can bring their son home.
They the ones who did it
@@babbletv8274 The parents did not do it. It was subterrestrials.
@@babbletv8274 🎯
I suspect the friend...
If I had any doubts, when the dad said, about recovery from drinking after his son disappeared, that he had decided to live his life as if his son walked through the front door...to imagine what his son would think of him right then....that did it for me. He didn't do it. That was just too sincere and just too sad.
He has had 4 years to groom his comments. Don't fall for it.
Zari.. well I DO AGREE with you! I am not easily manipulated.. I have thought since this happened in 2015 that the stranger with them had something to do with it..and also maybe even that mother..but not that dad..I do not believe he knows anything..I think the family hid some things from.him maybe but the dad I believe him
I agree the parents are innocent I think the kid wandered off and drowned in the Creek and got swept away!
Mini Surf Parents of a two year old are responsible for their child’s safety. If the baby wandered off it’s the parents fault.
I’m so sorry but these kids grieved. That’s how I came to believe they loved Deorr. People are truly evil on social media
_/sigh_ Of course, you're right *@Granny Sue.* This case does not cease to burn me up. I just want to take that beast of burden off those poor parents and heave it onto my shoulders for a while!
I love your comment it just makes me 😔
Mischa Isabel Noll
you think that because they loved him and grieved they didn't hurt him?
What a weird thing to do, to leave a two year old with a sick grandad and a bloke who they had never met, while they went fishing. It seems like fishing would be a great new activity for the baby to enjoy having a little go of. Regardless of what happened after, I think that’s the strangest idea not to take him with them
There are literally thousands of missing persons cases that make no sense and are never solved. Missing 411
Hundreds of thousand ,many sacrificed in satanic cults . Mayb the baby was never even there in the first place, he was killed days before this or sold
Yep! Those cases are sad yet it's interesting
This case was on Missing 411
@@shannondavies5003 satanic cults? Really lady?
@@Meowmeowmeowing1 I would say trafficking is a more likely possibility
When you have children never trust strangers and never leave them alone with those strangers. If there are many sad stories about parents hurting and killing their own children why trust strangers. I hope these stop in USA children can not continue to be the victims of sick adults minds.
Exactly trust no one
Don,t trust mtn lions around your toddlers either
I think it was Bob's friend. He was real nervous wen getting interviewed by the blond lady.
@@maryjohnson7704 yes I think he knows something too! And he wouldn’t admit wether or not he passed the polygraph test which most likely means he failed
He probably only failed the poly because he has a nervous personality. I know a hundred people with that same figgety personality and they're guilty of nothing. The breaks in his voice and the way he was shifting... I dont know, I truly truly feel like he feels guilty, just like the great grandpa, that he didnt have his eyes on the kid the entire time. The mother said he spent a lot of his time in his tent. He probably was in there when the boy left. I feel the boy wandered off.
People are so vicious. Humans are the most mean hearted!
Maybe so, but this was a bear, not a human.
@@DimndSLM bears leave prints and blood
@@markothwriter and so?
@@DimndSLM then there would be tracks or blood. Bears are vicious when killing their prey. Watch a video of a bear rip a baby deer apart.
@@walkertexasstranger4349 I understand about bears. I had an adult bear try to get in through our doggy door once before. A bear can easily take someone to their cave or wherever their lair is. I’ve been following this and just because you specifically don’t think it’s possible doesn’t mean you are correct. Since you can’t seem to see outside of yourself, I’m not going to do research for you. My words have value as do yours. We don’t have to carry this discussion together any further but I won’t shut you down to everyone, I just don’t have time or desire to pacify you.
Based on this video alone, I really do believe the parents. I think the kid wandered off and eventually died, but I know that there is always more to the story than what is presented in a short tv program.
True but then again there is no evidence of the kid around no boots we’re left behind 🤦🏻♂️ smh
I can tell by the 911 call she in not in fight mode. She is saying ummm
Fight mode is direct clear speech. Adrenaline take over. WHAT WHERE WHY tictoctictoc no stutter
The parents are quilty I wouldn't be able to talk about it n I wouldn't stop searching
@@scottnolan8773 EVERYBODY, LOOK HOW VIRTUOUS SCOTT IS!!
@@startwithurfeet230 I’ve been in fight our flight utter panic mode and what you say was not my experience.
If my child was missing I’d shut down from the fear.
how many moms would leave their 2 yr old behind with 2 men, one of them who gave her the creeps to go fishing?
Thank you!
Count me out!!! That's insane...
She expected grandpa to watch him, he loved him....
To Mike: the great grandfather endorsed this man plus he could be fighting dementia not detected at the time. They just want "someone",
GRIEF IS PARTICULAR TO THE INDIVIDUAL.
just anyone!
It was the babys grandpa u witch. And they were gone for 5mins....
Children always head for the water. They are fascinated by it.
I think the baby was never camping with them
what does that have to do with alien abduction?
Not always.
The rescue team have been looking for years, they would have found him by now, and if the parents reckon he was kidnapped or killed by an animal it means no one was watching him and they don't seem to be angry to grampa for not watching him and let him be taken,they accused Isaac to keep the blame from themselves, they don't trust him yet they left him with the child, how could they be near the tent and not hear anything if they stayed near him even with their backs turned.
Oh and they think he was taken by a bear, their tent was close by how could they not hear the screams and no blood was found, and if he was killed instantly the bear would have made noise oh and broke the tent, bear didn't just sneak his paw in, suspicious!
She said she brings her son everywhere she goes but left him with someone that give her the “creeps”.
I find it odd the grand dads friend won’t tell if he passed the polygraph test or not
She left him with the grand dad not the guy that gave her the red flag. Your passing off false information which I’m sure you didn’t mean to do.
@@bloodjl1 oh they meant To! It's exactly how rumors and false accusations happen. It's infuriating.
@@bloodjl1 You clearly don't know how a polygraph machine works. He had a misdemeanor charge before. You don't want that situation being apart of this situation. And that's why they don't use polygraphs machines in court they're not reliable. So instead of telling everybody that information on the reasoning. He says I can't remember.
Mothers' instinct. Very strong. But you said you carry him everywhere. Why did you not carry him with you?
The father is very convincing. It’s unimaginable you’d leave your 2 year old child with an older man on oxygen and that friend. It’s so odd but I don’t think they hurt him.
I agree that Vernal is extremely believable.
In my understanding Jessica has some issues (IDK what those issues are specifically) and has never expressed emotions “normally”.
I know most people think Deorr suffered some kind of “accident” but I don’t agree with that.
I believe Vernal would have called 911 to report any kind of accident involving his son.
He may seem convincing but must psychopaths are. The mother Jessica seems extremely sketchy. He may not have been directly involved but I’m certain he knows something 100%.
@@inmotiongaming4992 looks like she may have a drug problem, allegedly.Her behavior is very suspect. Sorry, i hope I'm wrong ...
@@sparkleh-wy7jz yea I was thinking the same thing.
@@amandanegrete1306 you realize that an accident could have happened that they had no idea about, right?
Ive ALWAYS said (being a parent that lost an infant myself) that it is hard enough to lose a child to death...let alone to BLAME them for that death. Just awful!!!
And I'm not saying it DON'T happen...but it's very rare....& if you're going to accuse such an Unforgivable awful crime you best be sure
and they dont even have that knowledge, they have to keep the hope he is still alive
It's terrible....
I cant even imagine how horrible and nightmarish it is.
My 6 children are all adults and it's overwhelming to even think of such a scenario.
Sold that kid,dang.Are y'all stupid or crazy...
Star Anna I’m so sorry for your loss. I can’t even begin to imagine the pain of that.
But....
unfortunately, (as sad as it is to say) it’s is NOT rare for the parents to be at fault. In fact, in most cases, it IS the parents who are to blame!
I wish they would find lil man. He deserves justice. Whoever done something to him needs to be held accountable. There is so many stories told it is sad
I think for sure he must have fallen in the water and was just not able to be found. He was a tiny little boy and it would have been easy to miss him, or swept quickly down the river.
3O3 Brine I agree!
3O3 Brine Especially with 4 stupid neglectful high/drunk adults, the last Adult with him should be in jail, or 1 of the parents!!
Smokey Bear I know. You’re right. I just don’t have a clue what else could have happened to him. And it seems like the most logical explanation to me. What are you’re thoughts? Any theories??
I agree. A year ago, in our area, a vehicle packed with hunters went into the river. Two made it out, and as far as I've heard, the other 3 or 4 guys made it out of the vehicle, but not to shore, and were never found. I think it is very possible he wandered to the creek, fell in and drown, and ended up tangled in some brush somewhere downstream. I believe both of these parents are truly grieving, and devastated.
its not a river it a shallow creek
As a mother of a little boy, I always like to watch these videos to figure out how I can be a better parent. Every time, I realize that I’d never do the things that these parents do. I’d never leave my child on a camping grounds with out me.
This is one of the rare cases where I actually believe the parents
Same here
Me too.
Yes, I totally believe them
So do I.
But where IS this little guy???????? 😰😩
@@alexwelsh4336 Your thoughts to my question, please???? 🙏🏼
You cant base what happened on how emotional the parents are 4 years later. My daughter went missing and I was a mess. You're instantly judged and looked at as the suspect and I got angry. But let it be told when she was found I collapsed with her in my arms the emotion is unreal that u feel. I still get upset with myself for forgetting to lock the door the night before. At the time tho all sorts of emotions were running through me and still do. Altho I will say if she hadn't being found I'd probably be sectioned or something.
I’m so happy that your wee one was found alive. I can only imagine what you must have gone through. I had my dog stolen and it half killed me, that dog was my son and someone took him from me. I almost ruined my sobriety over his disappearance. I want you to know that what happened to your daughter was in no way your fault, I forget to lock my door all the time, we’re human and we’re not perfect. You are one of the lucky 🍀 ones, focus on that and that you get to watch your little one grow up.
@@MiffetBlue I am so sorry 😞
Well....who goes camping, with a 2 year old, and not watch him like a hawk??
I think the same, why one of the parents stay with him at the camp?…my kids are active and I will never live that type of job in a camp to grandparents. My mom is active and the can watch the kids at home but this is an open space!!
If the parents need time alone that’s not the right place for that.
Hawk.... It's possible.
These guys.
Alittle alone time to keep the spark alive maybe. If you ever been around kids for more then a couple hours a day you'd need a break too.
Kids that little don’t know what “camping” is - but Jessica claims DeOrr “loved camping”. I’ve always thought she was lying to everyone because of what she said & how she said it.
No emotion and no straight answers to questions. It’s all about her & how she feels.
The dad is very indignant and defensive about the blame being directed to him. Overall neither parent is credible to me.
P. S. I just heard very similar verbiage from the parents of Summer Wells. VERY SIMILAR.
I really hope this baby can be found soon. It's so heartbreaking.
Why would she leave her baby behind with a guy she didn't trust from day one?
because grandpa was there duh hater
One thing that strikes me is the father's testimony. He actually comes across as truthful and he's not thinking too long when answering his questions and he doesn't seem to be answering his questions like guilty people usually do because they have to tread carefully how they answer.
Grandpas friend answers seem suspicious when he answered no comment. Like why would you say no comment if you weren't worried about the repercussions of your answer. I wish we could hear why he said no comment.
The father seems absolutely innocent to me. But I could be wrong.
But hundreds of missing people have disappeared in national parks including lots and lots of children.
But the father seems genuine. I never seen guilty act like he has
When they should the pictures of all 4 adults I immediately said it's grandpa's friend.
I caught on to that too. also when they asked him if any of the other adults might have something to do with it he hesitated almost as if he knew he couldn’t say yes because he himself did it and when they asked him if he though baby Dior might still be alive he hesitated again as if he knew he were dead
As I listened to him I kept thinking he knows way more about it than he is willing to say.
Plus what the baby's Mum said about his grumpiness with the little boy being out there, and the phone being restored to factory settings... 3 times... 🤔
@@GypsyGirl317 oh yahhh the phone being factory restored is a HUge redflag
I found him to be nervous as the questions were asked.
I wouldn't be able to sleep ever again if my kids were missing this kind of stuff is so sad..
These parents never hurt their children-Body language says that they are being truthful! These parents made this all about their son!
I definitely don't think the father did it. The random friend is highly suspect though.
@@lmnop6140 agree!
Parents killed him.
There's a case in canada where a little boy went missing out fishing with his siblings and father. No trace. But after 30 years, they were able to find evidence the child fell in the water and got stuck under a tree, why no body ever surfaced. It's a possibility...
that doesn't make sense but many of theses cases don't
Watch a few mountain lion/ leopard videos... A big cat would totally be watching this kid, see his chance, and snatch that kid in a heartbeat, take him 2 miles away, and devour him..all in total silence
@@dishdog215 I thot it strange that the Sherrif said they ruled out wild animal predation as a cause. Then again, maybe they literally left no stone unturned and interviewed every wild animal in the area, tracked down their alibis, and corroborated all of their whereabouts on the afternoon in question... /ponder
@@AverageAmerican hilarious !!! Yea, I thought it was an idiotic statement too. One just needs to Google it...this area is rated as a level 5 for mtn lions... 5 is highest concentration level on the scale. This is a no-brainer
@@dishdog215 What does it rate for aliens?
I very much believe the parents did not hurt this child , may God bless them and give them answers they so desperately need.
Ellen Smith I agree I have a feeling someone took him or Isaac or the grandfather but theese parents I don’t think did a thing
Who would wanna hurt there own child I'm pretty sure the parents are completely innocent.
I believe the parents are innocent!!!!
@@faithfulone4678 people are forgetting these parents have been caught in several lies and inconsistent statements. Before this happened they went to stores and got gas and nobody even saw this child. They are hoping time will make people forget the facts. No matter what unless one of them confesses or if the authorities ever stumble onto his body this case will remain unsolved. I'm seeing so many things in the news that is so disturbing. With all the technology today people still go missing and are murdered and there is no resolution. Cases that come to mind are Missy Bevers in Texas, Elizabeth Barraza in Texas, and now the "missing" boy in Colorado Gannon Staunch. It's so sad.
Agreed!
I feel for the parents. Time hopefully will answers will be told. I would wholly love if DeOrr came home.
@Ryan Smith some of these cases get solved decades later. Especially with all the new scientific and technological advances.
@Chat Noir negligent? More like guilty.
I can’t imagine how that feels as parents to be accused if you’re innocent.
They killed him.
As a mother, I can’t help but question why a TODDLER was left with an OLD MAN and a STRANGER in the first place..?
The old man was his grandfather
@@Lombranajd - Yes, I knew that. But regardless, the elderly have a more difficult time keeping up with a toddler. Actually, the old man was the mother’s grandfather; so the toddler’s GREAT-grandfather.
@@lauralee9440 that's true. It's just crazy how no knows anything. Breaks my heart
@@lauralee9440 my sons grandparents have watched my son many times. For a day, weekend and even while on vacation. Being a grandparent doesn't make him unfit to watch their grandchild.
@@MidgetPunter - It depends on their surroundings, the mobility of said grandparents, and the toddler’s activity level as well. Obviously, the GREAT-grandfather of the missing boy was not up to the task.
i dont believe any of them did anything except failed to watch the kid and something happened then no 1 cld find him
The kid was never at the campsite _ the whole thing is a smoke screen to cover up his disappearance.
@@Horrorhound1976 that's another theory
I think any reasonable person would assume he's dead...🙄
@@ACash2025 yea it's sad...all of them failed him
UNDERGROUND DESERTED BUNKERS ARE IN NATIONAL PARKS. PERVERTS USING THEM TO KEEP SMALL CHILDREN FOR ADENOCHROME. THEY KILL THESE KIDS AFTER 2-3 years
Having lost my sons I know that pain, and I sympathize with them. For that sheriff to say the parents did it without proof is the stupidest, most close minded nonsense I have heard. Had they continued the search more than two days they might have found something that could have helped in locating the baby.
I'm so sorry, Coni Torres, I pray that God comforts your grieving heart...
@@mamacitabambi3558 Thank you 🙏
@@conitorres9774 Your welcome... I can feel your pain in your message... Bless your heart...
And, accusing someone of something like that, can destroy their lives, as if the loss of DeOrr hasn't destroyed their lives as it is... I agree, the search should have lasted longer than a few days.
Coni, I'm sorry for your devastating losses.
@@lynnmahan154 thank you 🙏
The friend in my opinion, should be investigated further. Prayers for the parents.
Right??? Something doesn’t seem right about him!
@@smokymtnlady3856 yeah The way he was slipping up on his words and if you go back it sounds like he’s a bit nervous.
What a heartless thing to say!! You don’t have a clue how investigated or interrogated he was!! Just because we (the public) aren’t told something doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.
The parents did this
You need to watch all the videos about thai case. Guarantee you'll change your mind
If she was feeling bad vibes from Isaac why would she leave her son around him while she bogged off fishing?. Also haven't other kids and adults gone missing in similar places like with the 411 missing people.
We all do things and in hindsight we shouldn’t have done
Yes a lot of people have went missing it's very strange
He was also with his Grandpa. And, it's easy to judge, when it isn't you.
Yes missing 411 .. But I agree that friend looks a little creepy.. And they probably felt he was fine with grandpa.. And grandpa probably fell asleep.. And mr creepy could not have gone to far.
I camp a lot . And even in the middle of no where . It’s amazing the people you find in the middle of no where. They need that physic lady who found that kid in Juniper flats California.. She knew where to find the body. And who did it..
How could he hide it so well and no one could figure it out?
This man is innocent. You can tell he really loved his son.
Definitely agree
I believe that, and mom too, could they keep their story this straight for years? No, your brain and subconscience won't allow it! Something will slip out, no matter HOW hard you try to hide something, your brain will leak information.
Or he is a good actor .
@@hugemuscletube8582 are you an American? I ask because in our great nation people are deemed innocent until PROVEN guilty. Eventually the truth will come out. Let’s reserve judgement. It is a,ways concerning when law enforcement jumps to a theory without investigating every lead and when one zeros in on blaming the parents above all else without due diligence then it reminds us of the Salem Witch hunt/trials.
@@whisper2284I agree, that for now he is on title of the presumption of innocent, but maybe later on they could find proves and find him guilty and then realized that he just was acting. I am pointing out only a possibility, since no one really know the true yet, and no one can determine from a TH-cam video that " he is innocent,he really loved his kids. Remember your "GREAT" nation also have freedom of speech.
my theory is great grand pa was supposed to be watching the baby and didn't .. kid was washed down the creek
good call... very
Kathleen Greves ~ same here. The water seemed to be moving at a steady pace. The only thing I believe these parents are guilty of~ is what we know for a fact, not keeping a close enough eye on a two year old at a lake. So horribly sad for all involved.
No.
That little creek was barely knew deep with all kinds of brush in it.
They checked up and down there more than anywhere as it was.
Creeks are shallow and have tons of little traps where the body would’ve gotten stuck. A creek is not a river, and even in a river the body is likely to turn up.
So where did the blood on the truck come from?
This breaks my heart. I pray they find him. You cant judge. My daughter and I was taking a nap one day and she got up without me knowing and got out the back door luckily I had great neighbors and they ran her back and I held her for hours and cried. I can only imagine what their going through. My heart breaks for them. I wont point fingers without knowing facts and i dont know any.
I find it kinda odd that guy being interviewed while sitting on a cooler said that something happened to the kid like maybe an accident? Him saying that could have been accident made me wonder that he maybe knows more about what really happen. I'm not saying he did anything, just saying he knows more.
It could also be because he kinda lacks intelligence if you couldn't tell.
Yeah. He did it. Case closed.
Not only did he say that. He also didnt tell the interviewer his lie detector results, and even said he didnt want to comment on if he knew whether or not the little boy was dead or alive...
I 2nd that.
The Idaho State Repository shows Reinwand was charged with felony rape in 2006, but that charge was amended down to misdemeanor domestic battery.
Everyone seems to have really bad memories... no one can remember the trip with any clarity. How odd.
Meth's a helluva drug!!!
@@Master...deBater yeah drugs is the first thing you would think off especially after the mother already lost some kids. and the 2 older men def were drinking. but the father denies it at the beginning right
If it was any if my kids or anyone I knew I would remember everything I can I'm pretty good at it anyways but something like this man 💔
Lowlifes will blame the family and friends. You can not remember when you become a lowlife?
Yes my thoughts exactly. As a parent and I know what its like when my child got lost. I can remember every detail! Even today 30 years later.
I cannot imagine getting married so soon after my child’s disappearance. Heck, I can’t imagine ever starting a new life after such a tragedy. Just institutionalize me because I’d go nuts.
Lets not forget EVERYONE handles trauma differntly..As dad said, there is no book, or a guild line one can follow to help one work threw the feelings, cuz EVERYONE handles it differnt!!!
Maybe so they're protected from speaking on each other in court. 🤔
@@justineraerodriguez6138 They are not now.
right its like she ran off f that I would for ever search because someone got to pay
Yup, I’d spend the rest of my life looking for my child, basically living out of my car and searching every square inch of that area no matter how impossible that it. Like how much ground can a person/toddle cover in 1 day? My starting point would be the camp site.
My only son died in 2007 and I still breakdown cry. My soul feels broken and I can tell you that time doesn’t not heal this type of wound.
My son has been gone since 2020 I agree my pain is still here and I'm forever heartbroken. I send my condolences to you 🙏🙏
I’m so sorry for the loss of your son. I pray for peace in your heart, mind and soul until such time that you are reunited
WHY WHY WHY would they leave him to go fishing? Why would they not take him with? The boy was only 2 years old 😭😭😭. I really pray the parents did not hurt him. Did they think twice about leaving him with an old man and a stranger? SO SAD!
Same thing happened to my sister. My 26 year old Nephew Landon was diagnosed with leukemia on a Wednesday. We knew he wasn’t going to make it Friday. 2 DAYS
@@gaylamixon9334 🙏🙏
The guy who says he can't remember everything that happened should be hypnotized.
LoL
i found that to be a very interesting turn of phrase
I truly feel sorry for the parents,l don't think they hurt or killed their son..my heart goes out to them ♥🙁
Parents killed him.
I've taken my children camping before they could walk. They were never left out of my sight.
I have four grown sons. When they were growing up we camped a lot. I was a very attentive, nervous mother. In spite of my best efforts, there were a few times they would end up out of my sight. Absolutely horrifying. I thank God for protecting my children when I was incapable of being omnipresent, and staring at all four kids at once, every second of every day. If we are all HONEST we would all be admitting to those moments. Attempt to be grateful this horrible tragedy didn't happen to your child because you, like every other parent on here, you know it could happen to anyone, no matter how careful.
Gold medal to you.
What? You didn't leave them with sick very old men who were drinking and strangers who were also drinking? Oh so high and mighty of you! (being sarcastic). Yes, responsible people don't leave a toddler with a sick old man and a stranger that gives them the creeps who are both drinking. This is common sense 101. This is parenting.
@@shannonscheffel7366 the difference here is that they left a toddler with a sick old man who was drinking and a stranger who the mother says gave her the creeps who was also drinking. This is a big difference than a child wandering off from an attentive parent.
I lost an adult child to illness & the pain is never ending. When it first happens, all you can think about every waking moment of the day is what has happened to your baby and it plays over and over and over in your mind. If Baby Deorr's parents didn't do anything to him, than it is pure hate and evil to torment them when their hearts are already broken. I pray that Deorr will be found.
The 'friend' acts pretty suspicious. And if there were no drugs or alcohol, how could you 'not remember everything'. He's overly nervous when questioned.
Why didn't he invite the news lady inside? Sitting on a cooler?
It was him. Since the moment i started watching this i knew the friend had something to do with the little boys disappearance. The mother mentioned that he was mad that they took their 2yr old son camping. 🤷🏻♀️ It was a family trip, not a stranger trip. Then he disappears for a long time and boy goes missing. What person gets back, goes in his tent and does not help out look for a missing child? The child of the people he is camping with? Yup, it was him. I don’t understand how the cops didn’t investigate that man when it’s obvious he is not family and parents didn’t know anything about him. Cops really need to wake up 🤦♀️
@@Jay-adventureswithkids It amazes me that people are so unaware of the demons controlling them, making them do such terrible things. I'm not saying the jerk couldn't do it without help, but how sick their minds are, to do something like this..and think it's ok? Think it's normal? IDK, ppl don't recognize the fact Satan OWNS THEM and controls them. But one day they WILL be held accountable, as we all will.
He wouldn’t say wether or not he passed the polygraph. So I would assume that means he failed it. He def seemed nervous during the interview. He was odd.
@@Jay-adventureswithkids so what did this out of shape( no car) killer do with the body, during the 50 minute maximum window of opportunity? They had dozens of searchers, tracking dogs, professionals... Searching for days after the kid went missing. Are you claiming this dude is some sort of John Wick genius, that was able to go unnoticed by grandpa (as even missing from the site), with the boy, and conceal the body...
What an adorable toddler. He's so cute. It's sad to know he disappeared in those mountains. I pray something comes up as to his disappearance to put a closure to this and for the family and friends peace.
Why IF she didn’t trust Isaac would she leave her son with him?????
She doesn’t make any sense
Obviously because she was a horrible parent
I kind of wonder if she is saying that now because of all the backlash they have got
She left him with her Grandpa.
Mom n dad keep saying Isaac is wierd,strange,slow and didn't want the boy there ,why would you leave him alone with him ? I believe Isaac was a set up .😠
She asked her grandpa to watch him while they went to check out the fishing spot...
There's no possible way a child can go missing if someone was "watching him". There's just no way.
So odd, 4 adults who can't remember what took place on the camping trip. Must have been a lot of drinking.
I think the sheriff at the time of the disappearance handed this case very incompetently. I think it’s his fault that people stop really looking for the baby. I think the baby wondered off and fell in the water. I feel sorry for this couple because they got a really bad rap for a long time. God bless . I hope answers come for these parents. Great new sheriff I like him a lot.
Well you weren't there so it isn't fair to criticize the sheriff. What I find astonishing is the mother never shed one tear in any interviews, she gives a creepy smile when asked about if she did anything to the baby and her excuses are lame.
They change their stories multiple times, fail polygraphs, their behavior makes no sense, 2 PIs quit for the same exact reason (calling the parents uncooperative and deceptive). Of course the investigators are going to investigate the case as a homicide rather than a missing person.
Lamb Jiggy It’s my opinion . Just like everyone else on these comments. We all have an opinion. Don’t tell me my opinion is not fair when most people commenting on this channel wasn’t there as well.
My uncle is a sheriff and in his town a 22 no old toddler wondered off. He was found 3 days later where he had fallen off a cliff that was an old coal mine many yrs before. The only reason I feel he was found is because he was crying and a search crew was near enough to find him. Where he fell there's no doubt in my mind they would have never found him had he not been crying (thank God he was only slightly dehydrated) but had he not been crying he'd probably still be there today. I hate to think of it but baby Door, could have fallen threw a very deep crevice. I believe you and feel horrible for the parents
@@rainbowmaneunicorn7338 well neither were you there, nor do you know the mother to criticize how she's mourned for she may even still believe he's alive or have hopes of him being..So dont be a hypocrite...
Something is just 'off', with this case.
Uncle Ed so what if she is , it doesn’t make her a murderer
@Mark James shady AF.
Uncle Ed Irrelevant what her job is or is not.
Isaac at 13:10 says i wish i could tell them what happened but i just can't remember.... Sounds like guilty repression....
@Uncle Ed so what? What does that have to do with 4 years ago?
I hope the parents find out what happened to their son! RIP baby DeOrr!
They killed him.
The parents really look sincere! I pray they find out what happens to that little boy! My heart goes out to the parents!
Parents are killed him,
Sadly, they left their baby with someone not capable of watching him and he wandered off... probably fell into a body of water and drowned.
Something is fishy. The mom said this wasn’t his first camping trip that she brought him everywhere. But felt off when that guy asked why he was there. Then why did you leave him and not take him fishing, you left him with a guy you felt off about. And you said you take him every where...
she left him with the grandfather.
The smuirk on the mothers face sent chills up my spine.
And her tapping her foot while answering questions. They don’t mention that both parents failed all polygraphs.
Years ago my boyfriends 3 year old cousin died, she drowned at a graduation party on a lake. Her mom was remarried, and had two older daughters(age 6 and 9) from her first marriage and the 3 year old from her second marriage. When the older girls dad took his daughters for his weekend visit, he invited the 3 year old too so she could go to the graduation party and have a fun day at the lake with her sisters. Her mom initially didnt want to say yes but decided to let her go, she trusted her ex husband. When the 3 year old died, the mom wasnt there of course so she wasnt a suspect, this was a tragic accident but the ways the mom grieved and the dad grieved was totally different. To say the mother in this case is a suspect because of how people perceived her behavior is not a reliable marker. Some people shut down completely, they dont cry, they just shut down, some people sob hysterically.
He didn't think a 2 year old should be camping.....hardly enough motive to kill someone lady....
pug It appears he is correct. Mama is a pos!
@@beverlybalius9303 why so? Why call her a pos?
I camped with my daughter...had my head on swivel and she went everywhere with me...no one else was in charge...but I think these parents are innocent.
I would not have left my two year old son out of my sight in that situation.
The child would have and should have been alright bcuz eventually, most Humans will let a child out of their sight when they feel the chance of harm is remote. Otherwise, we all would be raised with short leashes...
Especially when Grandpa had some health issues.
Mountain lions happen...
@@AverageAmerican Nope. Not me. Either his father or another trusted family member.
@@우사민-r3c Yeah, but ur practically a saint! I'm talking about normal ppl.
Such a sad story send prayers of comfort and healing from this sad loss
I just dont understand how parents can leave their child with people who clearly dont have the childs well being the most important thing.
Parents killed him.
Why would you leave your son with a stranger after taking him all the way to the boondocks?
God help these people find closure.
I hate that some people get on tv saying come home , please bring my child home and they know about a horror buried in their own back yard. They live forever with their crime and people feel so sorry for them. I feel Sorry for the child
Look how long it took for that little boy Jared (I believe his name was) to be found. He was a 3 or 4 year old that disappeared in a National park. They found his bones not long ago but he disappeared in the 00s.
5 years
He never liked his shoes tied and the shoes were in pristine condition next to a piece of his scull
He never liked his shoes tied and the shoes were in pristine condition next to a piece of his scull
One of the most heart breaking missing persons case.
you ever hear of Shasta Groene?
@@wadestanton Shasta and her brother were taken by a dangerous predator after he slaughtered the parents and older brother. But that had nothing to do with a subterrestrial abduction.
@@AverageAmerican Shasta was made to watch the disemboling of her brother while he was alive. I guess to you that is not, "the most heartbreaking missing persons case". That's fine.
@@wadestanton _"I guess to you..."_
Why assume? We are talking about two completely different scenarios. In one, a Human monster is the culprit. But in the other, a subterrestrial cannibal is the perp. A real monster. Both are monsters nonetheless! We are fortunate to have Shasta back...
@@AverageAmerican I must assume, it's the internet. You could be a bot, so I assume you aren't.
I agree with that guy entirely on this aspect: I would NEVER take a toddler to such a huge, isolated place! There are a LOT safer places where you could camp!
Unless... you want to camp for free then you go deep into the woods were no one will notice you or your campfire.
But a child can be taken out of your home with a alarm system. Missing 411 is more important than people can imagine. Putting the blame on a bad choice is closed minded
Let's not victim shame...kids are taken out of cars, homes, hospitals..you can't NOT live just because you have small children. If they are avid campers why would you NOT take your child for that experience? Grown adults get lost..I mean it could have happened to anyone!
@@sarabobara8458
It was a camp sight 🤦🏻♀️
How do they know it wasn't someone that was already on the mountain? And took the baby? It just so sad.
I may be wrong, but I have followed this case for four years and I don’t believe these parents are guilty of the death or harm of their child.
Lord be with them. Blessed be...
They took their eyes off him for a second, like we all do, and he’s gone into the water. But why would a mother go off fishing and leave him with someone she didn’t trust. Look how near the water they are .
Mom left child with her grandfather
Thats stupidity
@@elviradelfin5130 Hindsight is truly 20/20. We know how the story ends, so it's easy for a person sitting on their sofa to label it as stupidity.
We take our children camping in remote eastern Kentucky surrounded by national forest , creeks and mountains. I can't tell you how many times a relative has kept an eye on our boys while my husband and I walked down to another creek, the barn , etc
This was a tragedy. I'm certain if parents got a re-do they would have never even gone camping that day.
Similar to the disappearance of Jaryd Atadero, nobody expects their baby not to come home
Im sorry if im harsh but i really see neglect esp with the mother considering she already had babies she shd know how two years olds are if i were togo fishing i would surely bring the baby with me tragedy could be avoided
@@libralillyknits Your comment is very realistic. I, too used to take my children to remote places and it’s not unusual to leave a child with an older person and go away from a short time. For the public to turn on these parents is horrible. It’s time to bring in a reputable, gifted psychic to find this child and bring resolution and closure for these parents.
I've been lost in wooded areas of campgrounds as a child; my friend and I lost track of each other when we crossed a street together in Manhattan and were separated for hours even thought we both stayed there and searched for the other; I considered walking along the "beach" in Alaska only to find out later that that particular one was like quicksand at high tide and I could have "disappeared". So why couldn't he have gotten lost? It looks like a big enough place (to me) that a little kid could get lost and not be found if the adults are looking in one place while the child is in another and they all keep moving.
Um...he wouldn't have been by himself
I think the only thing the parents are guilty of, is making the bad decision to bring such a young child camping. And to let him out of their site. And leave home alone with the elderly grandpa and a stranger. And that decision probably haunts them to this day! I wouldn’t have let my kids or now grandkids out of my sight for two seconds!
Best thing I've ever done is been a father, and I've missed out on that..my heart breaks for them. 😥
Sarah Manz a father? lol yet your name is sarah and your picture is of a girl
Your comment is suspect
Kirsten Wright if your read her statement correctly you would realize that she was repeating a quote from little D's father.....a comment he made, she should have put quotations around the words.
Oh thanks for clarifying. Somehow I missed that quote from the dad, so I was also a little confused when I read her comment. 😊