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This might be an old ass video but when I’m in a LAG mood i definitely am willing to call a big one with Ace high. Usually am right but if they really click buttons on random to fuck with me they’ll catch me
Top pair is usually good enough to call down a lag, but once in a blue moon you need to call them with Ace high or bottom pair, let them know you can't be pushed off a hand. Even if they have you beat in the future they are going to think twice about betting with pure air on the river if you've called 3 barrells with as little as a pair of deuces on this occasion, that's where LAG's make their money is by making you lay down hands that have them beat so every time you fold a pair of any sort you are playing into their strength.
The worst enemy of a lag is a calling station. My mantra to beat lags is the next one , "Strong is weak , weak is strong " When they act weak or passive they are mostly hiding a monster and when they act pretty aggressive they might have a pocket pair or high card.
I have 3 Lags in our home game. Until recently, it has been quite difficult to navigate through each, many times, all 3 in a single hand. Trial and error has been my pilgrimage. Thank you for polishing up some of the things I have learned. More in depth content will be greatly improved.
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Being in a position to act after the LAG most of the time is probably one of the most important considerations...ideally if there's one solid LAG that's controlling the action, take the seat to his immediate left if you aren't there already. If you can't get seated in this spot right away then request a seat change as soon as that seat vacates.
Absolutely. One issue with that is where I play we have the Mississippi straddle where button gets first option and the option moves to his right. So the lag will straddle a lot from a lot of positions and you will be first to act preflop or if you choose to straddle, you give him late position preflop with every opportunity to basically act as the straddle.
Against LAGs, the only way to beat them is to 4-bet them with air pre-flop and be willing to go all in with anything pre basically. Because youre not gonna beat them if you let them see that flop.
Lets not forget about the other players at the table. While your focused on the lag the tight player is sitting next to you with the nuts. The lag will be smart enough to get out of the way while you just built a big pot for the fish.
Or play LAG back? I noticed LAGs don't really need the hassle from LAG play. If you have top pair, high enough kicker, start to check-raise flops, especially the turn. Eventually, they turn down the energy or just outright fold when you get in preflop.
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There's a guy at micros who is a pure strong lag. He's sitting on multiple buyins stacks everytime I meet him at the tables. A 100nl pro told me this guy used to play 100nl and he was considered a legend there. I have no idea why he downgraded stakes so much. But he is contantly crushing everybody who steps in is path since many years. He is a 32/28/4 on my sample. So I'm trying hard to widen my range to get closer to those stats and man... LAG's life is risky business. Variance kicks in contantly and the ups and downs get bigger.
I've played with aggressive and loose players. Most of the time, I noticed, they can call you with a middle pair or lower pair. So when you guys feels it is the time to make a raise, do it with confidence. If they have the nuts, they'll reraise. They do bluff sometimes, but count their stack, if they have less chips, prepare to put all IN.
my today's tourney results: i have AK, this LAG calls All in with Q3 offsuit, i have AK. he hits 3 and wins. second situation: i have poket 66, i go all in cause all have folded except him. he calls with Q5, he catched Q and 5. fucking unbelievable! im so fucking furious right now. this is one of the main reasons why i feel no matter how skilled you are or tight you are, it all boilsdown to luck in other words gamble.
just a note; if you 3bet and get called its okay to lean toward fold on later streets if you feel "stuck" because of how many times the 3bet will or should actually win the pot. Definitly should play these hands differently than your average bet and call hands to balance your game strategy out imo.
it seems you should shut down more bluffs on later streets durin 3bet hands vs the average hands, simple strategy but i feel it gets over looked a lot atleast i know i sometimes find myself getting out of line just because the pots are bigger and want to bluff at it but imo thats not a winning strategy.
Hello Evin, I have just finished the storm rebuy 2€ 40th, and I would like to know how to play ultraaggresive donk/assholes... I haven´t been able to make a move in all the time I have been in my last table, because everybody was calling me no matter what I did ( 3bet+cbet) with value hands (also with one bluf), pref raise + two barrels 60% pot, and I havent been able to conect a winning hand, so either I folded and lost the pot, or made two bets, with AKs ip, without connecting and got fucked by a pair of fours.... I was (at first) cheap leader, my vpip was 19% and mayority of the othe players had like 35 to 50!!! They were reraising me, go allin on me, and generally playing any shit, like it was the nuts... Didn´t know if what to do....!!!??? I know it would be very difficult for you to review my hand history, I don´t have money for coaching either, but, by talking with to the guys of team gripsed I realized how lost I am..... And it would be awesome if you watch me and tell me how and where should I improve... Well, back to taking notes of the video and memorizing it... Thank you
IÑIGO Moraleda Try just to limp pre flop or post flop. Example your AQ, suited. Because maybe they have 7-9 only and they raise 3 bet pre flop. If you see you have good advantage at the turn, don't be afraid to put half or your entire stack. ..if you can't lose you may never win.
Use min raises when a short stacker is still to act if in position or if a short stacker is in the blinds. Trap with your big hands because, in general these guys like to get it in once they've entered a hand. Depending on the stats, you can usually shove over steals very wide. DON'T CALL OFF LIGHT. 3 Bet/Fold some hands you might normally flat in position.
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I really like you vidz man, 24 year old poker_guy who plays for the love of the game, the money is just a plus! Since Summer 2013 I live in Vegas now and my first time running into casinos to "show off" (I mean it lightly) was a disaster. I played the way I always played, and bad money management lead to my bankroll looking more like a banksock. Since I started watching your vidz soon after, I learned how to 1.) increase my profits with less risk, and 2.) cashing out (I dont keep playing longer than I have to) Keep it real man. Thanks.
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To be pro you need to change your style throughout the day. Depending on how players are feeling you out. If you are dominating and players keep folding like idiots you don’t change, but when they catch onto where you have weaknesses then you change. Though in a table of pros, they’ll always find weakness if you keep the same style.
As a LAG player, none of this shit is going to work. NONE OF IT. If you manage to become a LAG player, then you have a ton of experience and you can read your opponent like a book. A LAG player know exactly where is at in the hand and a LAG player will know how to make the necessary adjustments to defeat a 2nd rate player. The best play against a LAG player is to switch tables.
Table full of LAGS is a buffet for the DISCIPLINED TAG. All those prancing gazelles, eventually they zig when they should zag and get trapped. Best poker players know how to switch gears.
Keep it up! Long run you're a loser, but can have moderate medium term results and a TON of fun. Speaking in terms like "running hot", you're welcome at my table any day ;)
Most of the lags I've ran into lately for quite awhile play laggy and then combine that with running like Gods against me. They have the vpip and raising % and aggression factors amped up to the extreme sometimes but then when I jam lighter they've got the As (plo) or the nuts or they just plain hit or dodge my outs! It's been crazy...
Best way to play a LAG is just to not let them get anything going. Smash them once and they'll avoid you. Setting your sights on them and coming in second best, you're doomed. PATIENCE, and knock their teeth in. They will avoid you.
I played against two LAG's who gave away over $800.00 between them in 1/2 NLH cash game and i could't get any of it. it was very frustrating and i ended up loosing $200.00 to them trying to out play them. I guess your right, I gonna have to avoid these donk players..
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He says "well you can't win a lot of money off of them" might be giving them too much credit. Just the fact that they are barreling all the time very light means that when you have TPTK you often will take quite a bit from them. If you think about it logically they can't be so aggressive and not lose some very big pots.
Good points..... Good video thanks.... I have been playing poker seriously for about 5 months now and I've never been able to slow down those loose aggressive players. thanks to your video and many others I've been able to really pound those loose aggressive players in fact they stay away from me at the poker tables at the casino
i disagree keep the pot bigger vs tough opponents to take away his skill advantage and increase variance and against weak opponents you want to play small ball and increase skill advantage and bloat the pot when you got a monster
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I find myself playing sometime like a LAG and sometime like Passive aggressive in tournaments. usually depending on my stack and my position. I usually end in 1st or 2nd place bar and big mistakes... t
@@percyblok6014 I've plugged a big leak of mine while playing this style: calling too many 3bets out of position. So I think this video was very helpful.
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Yoo gripsed, I LOVE this! I've been told by the strongest player at my live home game a few years ago that I play a LAG style. I'm not that great a player (yet) but this is such great insight and wow you really really know your stuff. I am really enjoying the Get Me Stackin course but I still have a heck of a lot to go. I really appreciate all the content. -jarrett1101 from ACR and twitch
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He sounds like he just got done with a losing session against one haha. Nice video though.
Brandon Stolz :)
+Gripsed Poker Training I was literally just going to say that hahah
Brandon Stolz 00:28 most of your opponents will be loose aggressive, and believe me... they are a handful 😖
Brandon Stolz nice read i felt the same way..one of my favorite poker related quotes, "it is what it is its usually what it seems"
I found a good collection of videos that should help you at Card Crusher Fixer
i was probably hungover, this was recorded a very long time ago, back in my serious party days :)
still very informative!
This might be an old ass video but when I’m in a LAG mood i definitely am willing to call a big one with Ace high. Usually am right but if they really click buttons on random to fuck with me they’ll catch me
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Top pair is usually good enough to call down a lag, but once in a blue moon you need to call them with Ace high or bottom pair, let them know you can't be pushed off a hand. Even if they have you beat in the future they are going to think twice about betting with pure air on the river if you've called 3 barrells with as little as a pair of deuces on this occasion, that's where LAG's make their money is by making you lay down hands that have them beat so every time you fold a pair of any sort you are playing into their strength.
The worst enemy of a lag is a calling station.
My mantra to beat lags is the next one ,
"Strong is weak , weak is strong "
When they act weak or passive they are mostly hiding a monster and when they act pretty aggressive they might have a pocket pair or high card.
Love the annoyance in the voice when describing LAGs😂😂
I have 3 Lags in our home game. Until recently, it has been quite difficult to navigate through each, many times, all 3 in a single hand. Trial and error has been my pilgrimage. Thank you for polishing up some of the things I have learned. More in depth content will be greatly improved.
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Being in a position to act after the LAG most of the time is probably one of the most important considerations...ideally if there's one solid LAG that's controlling the action, take the seat to his immediate left if you aren't there already. If you can't get seated in this spot right away then request a seat change as soon as that seat vacates.
Absolutely. One issue with that is where I play we have the Mississippi straddle where button gets first option and the option moves to his right. So the lag will straddle a lot from a lot of positions and you will be first to act preflop or if you choose to straddle, you give him late position preflop with every opportunity to basically act as the straddle.
Solid advice. Still true today.
Against LAGs, the only way to beat them is to 4-bet them with air pre-flop and be willing to go all in with anything pre basically. Because youre not gonna beat them if you let them see that flop.
I am always the shortest stack on the table. 😢😢😢
Lets not forget about the other players at the table. While your focused on the lag the tight player is sitting next to you with the nuts. The lag will be smart enough to get out of the way while you just built a big pot for the fish.
well said!
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Nice video . Great job!
Or play LAG back? I noticed LAGs don't really need the hassle from LAG play. If you have top pair, high enough kicker, start to check-raise flops, especially the turn. Eventually, they turn down the energy or just outright fold when you get in preflop.
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@@gripsed I'm a member already 😅
There's a guy at micros who is a pure strong lag. He's sitting on multiple buyins stacks everytime I meet him at the tables. A 100nl pro told me this guy used to play 100nl and he was considered a legend there. I have no idea why he downgraded stakes so much. But he is contantly crushing everybody who steps in is path since many years. He is a 32/28/4 on my sample. So I'm trying hard to widen my range to get closer to those stats and man... LAG's life is risky business. Variance kicks in contantly and the ups and downs get bigger.
Probably my number one obstacle at a table. Great advice man, thanks!
I've played with aggressive and loose players. Most of the time, I noticed, they can call you with a middle pair or lower pair. So when you guys feels it is the time to make a raise, do it with confidence. If they have the nuts, they'll reraise. They do bluff sometimes, but count their stack, if they have less chips, prepare to put all IN.
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my today's tourney results: i have AK, this LAG calls All in with Q3 offsuit, i have AK. he hits 3 and wins.
second situation: i have poket 66, i go all in cause all have folded except him. he calls with Q5, he catched Q and 5. fucking unbelievable! im so fucking furious right now. this is one of the main reasons why i feel no matter how skilled you are or tight you are, it all boilsdown to luck in other words gamble.
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just a note; if you 3bet and get called its okay to lean toward fold on later streets if you feel "stuck" because of how many times the 3bet will or should actually win the pot. Definitly should play these hands differently than your average bet and call hands to balance your game strategy out imo.
it seems you should shut down more bluffs on later streets durin 3bet hands vs the average hands, simple strategy but i feel it gets over looked a lot atleast i know i sometimes find myself getting out of line just because the pots are bigger and want to bluff at it but imo thats not a winning strategy.
Hello Evin, I have just finished the storm rebuy 2€ 40th, and I would like to know how to play ultraaggresive donk/assholes... I haven´t been able to make a move in all the time I have been in my last table, because everybody was calling me no matter what I did ( 3bet+cbet) with value hands (also with one bluf), pref raise + two barrels 60% pot, and I havent been able to conect a winning hand, so either I folded and lost the pot, or made two bets, with AKs ip, without connecting and got fucked by a pair of fours.... I was (at first) cheap leader, my vpip was 19% and mayority of the othe players had like 35 to 50!!! They were reraising me, go allin on me, and generally playing any shit, like it was the nuts... Didn´t know if what to do....!!!??? I know it would be very difficult for you to review my hand history, I don´t have money for coaching either, but, by talking with to the guys of team gripsed I realized how lost I am..... And it would be awesome if you watch me and tell me how and where should I improve... Well, back to taking notes of the video and memorizing it...
Thank you
+IÑIGO Moraleda tighten up
IÑIGO Moraleda Try just to limp pre flop or post flop. Example your AQ, suited. Because maybe they have 7-9 only and they raise 3 bet pre flop. If you see you have good advantage at the turn, don't be afraid to put half or your entire stack. ..if you can't lose you may never win.
As someone trying to adopt a TAG style, a good LAG is easily the hardest to play against
Use min raises when a short stacker is still to act if in position or if a short stacker is in the blinds.
Trap with your big hands because, in general these guys like to get it in once they've entered a hand.
Depending on the stats, you can usually shove over steals very wide. DON'T CALL OFF LIGHT.
3 Bet/Fold some hands you might normally flat in position.
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Your timing for using curse words is excellent!!
“You can get a ton of value cause they simply won’t understand what the fuck you’re doing” 😂
I dont think lags are tripple barreling as much these days. Lot of 1/2 barrelers
So isn’t somebody like Daniel Negreanu considered a good loose aggressive since he plays a lot of hands and is aggressive?
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Dude just sounds like he lost his entire bankroll to a LAG
Or won his entire bankroll and smoked it before making this video.
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is there anything u can do against those short stack grinders
I really like you vidz man, 24 year old poker_guy who plays for the love of the game, the money is just a plus! Since Summer 2013 I live in Vegas now and my first time running into casinos to "show off" (I mean it lightly) was a disaster. I played the way I always played, and bad money management lead to my bankroll looking more like a banksock. Since I started watching your vidz soon after, I learned how to 1.) increase my profits with less risk, and 2.) cashing out (I dont keep playing longer than I have to) Keep it real man. Thanks.
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Let's just say that if the ENTIRE table were playing equally LAG... the best hand would always win.
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great stuff bro thanks
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Good video tutorial !!!!!!!!!!!! nice job EVAN !!
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LAG works with small ball, to play like the pros you have to be aware of the web you and others try to spin
To be pro you need to change your style throughout the day. Depending on how players are feeling you out. If you are dominating and players keep folding like idiots you don’t change, but when they catch onto where you have weaknesses then you change. Though in a table of pros, they’ll always find weakness if you keep the same style.
As a LAG player, none of this shit is going to work. NONE OF IT. If you manage to become a LAG player, then you have a ton of experience and you can read your opponent like a book. A LAG player know exactly where is at in the hand and a LAG player will know how to make the necessary adjustments to defeat a 2nd rate player. The best play against a LAG player is to switch tables.
You are a legend. Ima switch casinos
Table full of LAGS is a buffet for the DISCIPLINED TAG. All those prancing gazelles, eventually they zig when they should zag and get trapped. Best poker players know how to switch gears.
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Basically Tom Dawn.
i like playing the lag when i am running hot
Me too until some how I start loosing a lot of chips without even notice it.
Overconfidence kills your game
Kev Shelby that’s usually how my poker runs go. Win one day come in cocky the next then lose. Play smart the next time then the cycle repeats.
Keep it up! Long run you're a loser, but can have moderate medium term results and a TON of fun. Speaking in terms like "running hot", you're welcome at my table any day ;)
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Most of the lags I've ran into lately for quite awhile play laggy and then combine that with running like Gods against me. They have the vpip and raising % and aggression factors amped up to the extreme sometimes but then when I jam lighter they've got the As (plo) or the nuts or they just plain hit or dodge my outs! It's been crazy...
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Best way to play a LAG is just to not let them get anything going. Smash them once and they'll avoid you. Setting your sights on them and coming in second best, you're doomed. PATIENCE, and knock their teeth in. They will avoid you.
there is a gripsed group on pokerstars with this event
Also I just saw you put this out NINE years ago! Legend 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
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You sound like someone was forcing you to make this video :p
I played against two LAG's who gave away over $800.00 between them in 1/2 NLH cash game and i could't get any of it. it was very frustrating and i ended up loosing $200.00 to them trying to out play them. I guess your right, I gonna have to avoid these donk players..
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He says "well you can't win a lot of money off of them" might be giving them too much credit. Just the fact that they are barreling all the time very light means that when you have TPTK you often will take quite a bit from them. If you think about it logically they can't be so aggressive and not lose some very big pots.
Good points..... Good video thanks.... I have been playing poker seriously for about 5 months now and I've never been able to slow down those loose aggressive players. thanks to your video and many others I've been able to really pound those loose aggressive players in fact they stay away from me at the poker tables at the casino
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4:44 best part haha
"simply won't understand what the fuck you're doing" .... so that's why my all in bluffs are getting called with air
You sound like Tom Dwan just stacked you. Nice video though, haha!
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i disagree keep the pot bigger vs tough opponents to take away his skill advantage and increase variance and against weak opponents you want to play small ball and increase skill advantage and bloat the pot when you got a monster
Thanks Evan, this video is like Aspirin. :)
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3:29 min. Epic
I play a LAG heads up a lot. He’s taken $1,1000 from me in a week. That’s what I’m doing here.
Heads up is a completely different game. Everyone should be a little bit of a lag heads up.
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I find myself playing sometime like a LAG and sometime like Passive aggressive in tournaments. usually depending on my stack and my position. I usually end in 1st or 2nd place bar and big mistakes... t
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see new vid on "Playing vs Weak tight"
you should set up a tourney or private cash game for subscribers
every friday on twitch, come join us :)
It’s always entertaining. And if you get lucky, more than once, whoopee
sooo.... you beat a lag by playing laggy?
nits > tag > lag > nits. Evan admits his default style is nit hence why he has the most trouble against lags
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Thanks now I’ll be a better LAG.
Hahaha, most likely not.
@@percyblok6014 I've plugged a big leak of mine while playing this style: calling too many 3bets out of position. So I think this video was very helpful.
Excellent info! Thank you! ( but please stop swallowing so loud )
This player type is me.
Nothing like a LAG , who's running bad !
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i call em down w/K hi!
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I hate LAGS lol
its like bullfighting! keep dodging! call their bluff with bullets (bullets is slang for pocket aces)
Too many ludes bro.
😂
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The constant sound of you swallowing sounds gross. Are u drinking water or something?
My mouth was kinda dry from recording 2 hours of lessons in one day (it was also my first time ever making TH-cam content) sorry about that!
@@gripsed I blame the mic more than I blame u... hydration is important!
Your voice is hard to listen to.
Could you breathe a little harder the lack of background noise is bothering me
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Yoo gripsed, I LOVE this! I've been told by the strongest player at my live home game a few years ago that I play a LAG style. I'm not that great a player (yet) but this is such great insight and wow you really really know your stuff. I am really enjoying the Get Me Stackin course but I still have a heck of a lot to go.
I really appreciate all the content.
-jarrett1101 from ACR and twitch
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