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If you’re betting/calling proportionate to your equity after the flop, but you’re basing that on the chance you’ll make your hand on either the turn or the river, how do you handle the turn? Equities get cut in half and all the sudden you can only justify very small calls. It seems like this would significantly impact the actual chance of realizing your equity post-flop. How do you factor this in? Or do you bet on the flop based on your turn %?
Great question, this is why it's important to know your odds of hitting on each street (not just both of them) Your range will be structured based on the size of bets you face. Calling small bets with a wider range of hands, and continuing with a narrower range of hands. You're thinking about things the right way Noah! Hope you're out there gettin stackin!
One step at a time, every edge gained wins $$$s and a plan of action simplifies choices under stress. Choices, win or lose, increases knowledge, thus another modicum of edge.
He's right, though my god it is hard to train yourself to fold a flush draw or open ended draw off a 1/2 pot size bet after the flop. I still usually call just see that turn if I get 2 to 1 as long as the guy has either me out chipped or is a person that can't get off his hand once he's made anything. Hoping those two factors make up for my donk flop call LOL
Usually it's worth calling a flop bet of even up to pot because of the implied odds and potential payoff on later 2 streets. Calling big bets on the turn however is a lot more questionable because you only have 1 more street to get paid on.
Little tip on rounding your chance to win, just remember the outs. If there’s 2 open in the flop times your outs by 4 that’s your estimated percent chance of winning. If there’s 1 open in the flop times your outs by 2.
That 4-2 rule is pretty handy. I wish more instruction on poker math gave players simple estimate tips like that. I can't spend more than a few seconds on my turn deciding what to do. I can't pull out a calculator or work out with a pencil what all the probabilities are.
It's a little tough because there are so many unique spots, but this video on ranges touches a bit on that at the 40:00 mark th-cam.com/video/Lj9DnuoeckE/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=GripsedPokerTraining%2F%2FEvanJarvis Putting the hands into buckets/categories really helps with the bluff selection process!
Thnxs for the point of reference in dealing with my chips like an accountant never thought of it like that. I'm just that guy that "Just Wins" I never really slowed down to understand why so thank you! Now I can premeditate my earnings Gracias my manas
Thnxs for the point of reference in dealing with my chips like an accountant never thought of it like that. I'm just that guy that "Just Wins" I never really slowed down to understand why so thank you! Now I can premeditate my earnings Gracias my man 💪🏽🏦
Easiest way to tighten up your game and win more money over the long haul is stop chasing flush and straight draws UNLESS you're getting fantastic implied odds. It can be profitable if in a game with multiple calling stations.
All this mathematical talk has me lost lol. Is this what other players are thinking in their minds while playing poker? All these percentages and win ratios along with everything else they’re observing? I just started playing online poker and little by little getting a bit better. People play loose as fuck online though lol. But trying to get better recognizing good preflop hands vs hands that should probably be an automatic fold in most cases. I enjoy these videos and the value you share. Even though I feel a bit lost with some terminology and all this math stuff.
The main thing is just having the math in the back of your mind. Front of your mind can be focused on picking up tells and reading your opponent. Hope that after having some time to go thru the videos & maybe some books as well that the terminology is starting to make more sense!
Round off the numbers and remember little shortcuts. With enough practice, you'll automatically associate certain hands with rounded-off percents and don't need to calculate anything.
Most pokerplayers know this? I doubt it... Most poker players arent the ones making money doing it. Knowing these will ensure a 100% win ratio at microstakes assuming you wont get unlucky all the time. I knew the word expression "pot odds" but never thought how useful it can be before watching this vid..
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Any two can win. And remember, everything you do at the table conveys information. Just joking with ya. Your vids are full of good, solid info. Thanks.
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Yep. A2 vs 33 backwards. Should be 30/70.
Got me!!! Thanks for the save :)
If you’re betting/calling proportionate to your equity after the flop, but you’re basing that on the chance you’ll make your hand on either the turn or the river, how do you handle the turn? Equities get cut in half and all the sudden you can only justify very small calls. It seems like this would significantly impact the actual chance of realizing your equity post-flop. How do you factor this in?
Or do you bet on the flop based on your turn %?
Great question, this is why it's important to know your odds of hitting on each street (not just both of them)
Your range will be structured based on the size of bets you face. Calling small bets with a wider range of hands, and continuing with a narrower range of hands.
You're thinking about things the right way Noah! Hope you're out there gettin stackin!
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yes, its for beginners
thats why its lesson 3 in a series of 30 :)
Great basic video simple clean and to the point. Nice work.
thanks!
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One step at a time, every edge gained wins $$$s and a plan of action simplifies choices under stress. Choices, win or lose, increases knowledge, thus another modicum of edge.
Amen Brian Amen!
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He's right, though my god it is hard to train yourself to fold a flush draw or open ended draw off a 1/2 pot size bet after the flop. I still usually call just see that turn if I get 2 to 1 as long as the guy has either me out chipped or is a person that can't get off his hand once he's made anything. Hoping those two factors make up for my donk flop call LOL
Usually it's worth calling a flop bet of even up to pot because of the implied odds and potential payoff on later 2 streets.
Calling big bets on the turn however is a lot more questionable because you only have 1 more street to get paid on.
Little tip on rounding your chance to win, just remember the outs. If there’s 2 open in the flop times your outs by 4 that’s your estimated percent chance of winning. If there’s 1 open in the flop times your outs by 2.
Example, there’s 9 outs on a flush. There’s 2 open on the flop. 9x4= 36
That 4-2 rule is pretty handy. I wish more instruction on poker math gave players simple estimate tips like that. I can't spend more than a few seconds on my turn deciding what to do. I can't pull out a calculator or work out with a pencil what all the probabilities are.
Great tip Dorothy Thank you for sharing this!
@@NoActuallyGo-KCUF-Yourself Rounding is always the way to go whenever possible :)
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guessing the odds haven't changed in 12 years. love the vid
That's the beauty about evergreen content, it's always still applicable :)
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Thanks for this!!
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can you do a video on bluff selection? like which hands are good bluff hands in certain spots?
It's a little tough because there are so many unique spots, but this video on ranges touches a bit on that at the 40:00 mark th-cam.com/video/Lj9DnuoeckE/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=GripsedPokerTraining%2F%2FEvanJarvis
Putting the hands into buckets/categories really helps with the bluff selection process!
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Thnxs for the point of reference in dealing with my chips like an accountant never thought of it like that. I'm just that guy that "Just Wins" I never really slowed down to understand why so thank you! Now I can premeditate my earnings Gracias my manas
ty 4 posting i like ur common sense approach
Cheers slicka, glad you enjoyed it!
Ice video - very helpful and well explained. With a cool out. “Later guys...”
Thanks Simon!
hi, why is A2 vs 33 - 70/30
I got it backwards, my mistake
Can you explain how AK has less positive equity than A2 when both against pairs?
Typo.
Thnxs for the point of reference in dealing with my chips like an accountant never thought of it like that. I'm just that guy that "Just Wins" I never really slowed down to understand why so thank you! Now I can premeditate my earnings Gracias my man 💪🏽🏦
De nada mi amigo! Glad my way of breaking it down made sense and helped you find more confidence and success on the tables!
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how do you calculate equity percentages quickly ,is their a simple formula ?
2x your number of outs on the turn or river
for both streets do 4x your number of outs
It's not exact, but usually it's close enough!
Easiest way to tighten up your game and win more money over the long haul is stop chasing flush and straight draws UNLESS you're getting fantastic implied odds. It can be profitable if in a game with multiple calling stations.
I agree 100% Percy, sounds like you know your stuff!
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Nice audio 👍
What the chance you hit the flop at all?
Depends on your starting hand
This article is pretty in depth for those odds and so much more! www.cardplayer.com/poker-tools/odds-and-outs
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@1:38 you already have put some money in the pot
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All this mathematical talk has me lost lol. Is this what other players are thinking in their minds while playing poker? All these percentages and win ratios along with everything else they’re observing?
I just started playing online poker and little by little getting a bit better. People play loose as fuck online though lol.
But trying to get better recognizing good preflop hands vs hands that should probably be an automatic fold in most cases.
I enjoy these videos and the value you share. Even though I feel a bit lost with some terminology and all this math stuff.
The main thing is just having the math in the back of your mind. Front of your mind can be focused on picking up tells and reading your opponent.
Hope that after having some time to go thru the videos & maybe some books as well that the terminology is starting to make more sense!
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How tf do you count and do that much math in the 3 seconds you have to play your hand?
Round off the numbers and remember little shortcuts. With enough practice, you'll automatically associate certain hands with rounded-off percents and don't need to calculate anything.
Practice the math between games and it will become second nature. like everyhting in life the secret to success is repetition!
@@NoActuallyGo-KCUF-Yourself Thanks for the tip mdiem!
wonderful video bro! 5stars
Thank you J Rath!
Most pokerplayers know this? I doubt it... Most poker players arent the ones making money doing it. Knowing these will ensure a 100% win ratio at microstakes assuming you wont get unlucky all the time. I knew the word expression "pot odds" but never thought how useful it can be before watching this vid..
So glad you found the video then Ex0rz! Hope it's been helping you make more on the tables over the past decade :)
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A2 vs 33 in your video looks like A2 has 70% lol
This hurt my head
Must have been mistake on the chart should be 30/70 not 70/30 but he does say it right just chart wrong!lol
The interactive transcript to this is pretty funny... pig eyes wtf?
LOL!
gripsed. com/lesson-4-selection-2/ -> Page Not Found (Error 404) :/
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I called an all in with AQ and one more player called also … the turned over AA and QQ lol
Any two can win. And remember, everything you do at the table conveys information. Just joking with ya. Your vids are full of good, solid info. Thanks.
Thanks Rackwitz! Glad you're enjoying them and ty for the lil laugh there :)
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Math is idiotic. Why is that? I have about $1 million Sklansky dollars and have $0 real dollars.
you haven't found the bank of skalansky yet?
would you be willing to sell to me at a special price? You know... friend price? :D
What a creep